Speaker 1: M what's part in my twos? I'm Robert Evans, host
Speaker 1: behind the Bastards. Uh, this is what what what? What is?
Speaker 1: What is what? What is what? The last ye, Sophie,
Speaker 1: let's part in my twos. That's a solid introduction. I
Speaker 1: think you nailed it, Thank you, Jack. Sophie is being
Speaker 1: mean to me because she's the bastard of this episode.
Speaker 1: Um well really how mean she is to me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm still building to that one. Uh. This
Speaker 1: is the show about the worst people in all the history, obviously,
Speaker 1: And in last episode we talked about James O'Keefe, the
Speaker 1: patron saint of news grifters, and in this episode we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about I don't know, he hasn't worked
Speaker 1: with O'Keefe, but you might call him his spiritual disciple,
Speaker 1: a fella named Andy No. Uh. Now, James O'Keeffe is
Speaker 1: higher profile than have you heard a thing about Andy No? Jack?
Speaker 1: A recent attest started seeing people tweet about him and yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw the hammer thing that happened. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: him where he claimed the Antifa attacked somebody with a
Speaker 1: hammer and it was actually then being at that Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And Andy's a frequent guest on Tucker Carlson. He's very influential.
Speaker 1: He just hasn't been around as long as O'Keefe in
Speaker 1: the media sphere, so he's not quite as well known,
Speaker 1: although he's getting to be that way, so it's probably
Speaker 1: good for us to talk about him today. Uh Andy
Speaker 1: Kuong No was born in Portland, Oregon, at some point
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighties six. I don't have an exact birth
Speaker 1: date for the guy. His parents had immigrated from Vietnam
Speaker 1: via boat slightly less than a decade before. They've been
Speaker 1: forced into re education camps by the country's government, which
Speaker 1: may explain some of the political attitudes that No inherited.
Speaker 1: As a young man, No intended U c l A
Speaker 1: and volunteered with AmeriCorps. He graduated in two thousand nine
Speaker 1: with a graphic design degree. Like roughly forty scent of
Speaker 1: the people I went to college with, and like all
Speaker 1: of my friends, he was unable to find any work
Speaker 1: because graphic design degrees were essentially a scam played upon
Speaker 1: members of my generation. Uh He was forced to take
Speaker 1: work as a photographer for a used car lot, and
Speaker 1: he spent a lot of time unemployed. No would later
Speaker 1: tell BuzzFeed quote. My brain wasn't a stupor. I couldn't
Speaker 1: spend the rest of my life going from minimum wage
Speaker 1: job to minimum wage job. It's pretty sympathetic so far.
Speaker 1: A lot of us have been there. Uh, like many
Speaker 1: millennials who realized they'd been grifted by the system into
Speaker 1: taking on buckets of student loan debt for a degree
Speaker 1: that wouldn't actually get them a job, and he turned
Speaker 1: back towards the only thing that made sense to him,
Speaker 1: more school and more student loan debt. In two thousand
Speaker 1: and fifteen, he enrolled in a master's program and political
Speaker 1: science at Portland State University. So yeah, that's this guy's
Speaker 1: story so far. Now. No had been raised Buddhist and
Speaker 1: converted to Christianity in high school, but he became an
Speaker 1: atheist in the mid oughts. In two thousand twelve, he
Speaker 1: attended a Portland convention of the Freedom From Legion Foundation.
Speaker 1: As he got drawn into Internet atheist circles, he grew
Speaker 1: increasingly concerned about Islam. This was heightened in two thousand,
Speaker 1: fourteen and fifteen as the Islamic state rose to prominence.
Speaker 1: No became fascinated with radicalism, and not just the Muslim kind.
Speaker 1: As social justice causes became more prominent across American campuses,
Speaker 1: Andy No grew concerned that a frenzy was overtaking American culture.
Speaker 1: According to a BuzzFeed profile quote, he attended an event
Speaker 1: at PSU where he said white students weren't allowed to speak,
Speaker 1: and another where he said a black student said she
Speaker 1: feared that she would be killed on campus by a
Speaker 1: white supremacist. I'm from this city, No remembered thinking, and
Speaker 1: they believe Portland's state is a place where there are
Speaker 1: a white racist all over who can come out but
Speaker 1: at any time and kill you. It didn't seem to
Speaker 1: fit with reality. More than that, No thought he saw
Speaker 1: parallels with the Marxist Revolution his parents had lived through
Speaker 1: in Vietnam. I was deeply curious on how those beliefs
Speaker 1: could take root in my family's adopted hometown. So a
Speaker 1: couple of things to note, one of which is that
Speaker 1: Oregon was literally founded as a white supremacist state, and
Speaker 1: there have been several very well documented murders of black
Speaker 1: people by white supremacists in Portland itself within the last
Speaker 1: couple of decades, so it's well it was attempted a
Speaker 1: guy named Jeremy Christian carried out an attack on a
Speaker 1: Portland Max train where he was threatening violence on two
Speaker 1: young Muslim women, one of him was black, and two
Speaker 1: other passengers intervened and were stabbed to death protecting them.
Speaker 1: That was so. Yeah, there's a reason to be scared
Speaker 1: of white supremacists if you live in the city of Portland. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What a silly claim that woman was making. Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: stupid of her to be worried, uh about white supremacists
Speaker 1: who have only killed a couple of people in Oregon recently,
Speaker 1: as opposed to worried about Muslims who have killed zero
Speaker 1: oregon Ians. Uh. In by being attacked and thus drawing
Speaker 1: that person to uh defend her, wasn't that woman? Uh
Speaker 1: sort of responsible? She was? She was. If she had
Speaker 1: just not been on the bus, there would have been
Speaker 1: no attack. Yeah. I mean, there's two sides here. There's
Speaker 1: two sides here, both sides of this one. Robert. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that does remind me of how it was explained to
Speaker 1: me traffic rules work for foreigners in Japan that if
Speaker 1: you're a foreigner and you're involved in a traffic altercation,
Speaker 1: it's generally viewed as your fault because if you hadn't
Speaker 1: moved to Japan, the crash wouldn't happen. Um, yeah, now,
Speaker 1: no claims. All of this stuff pushed him into becoming
Speaker 1: a free speech activist and a journalist. He joined the
Speaker 1: Portland State Vanguard, a school paper, as its multimedia editor.
Speaker 1: In two thousands seventeen, he showed up at an interfaith
Speaker 1: talk at the university called Unpacking Misconceptions. During the talk,
Speaker 1: a Muslim student was asked for their interpretation of chronic
Speaker 1: law and how it would apply to non Muslims living
Speaker 1: in an Islamic state if that country applied the strictest
Speaker 1: interpretations of chronic law. The student responded that, based on
Speaker 1: her understanding, non Muslims would be asked to leave the country.
Speaker 1: The implication is that they would be killed if they
Speaker 1: did not. Another Muslim immediately argued against this interpretation of
Speaker 1: the law, which is, by the way, absolutely not what
Speaker 1: the Koran says. It's actually the opposite of a bunch
Speaker 1: of ship. Mohammed said, Uh, if you're a Muslim and
Speaker 1: running a society according to like the rules Mohammed set out,
Speaker 1: you're actually required to treat people of the book in
Speaker 1: certain ways and protect them. Um, but no, ignored that
Speaker 1: other students response, and ignored the fact that the first
Speaker 1: response had been to a theoretical question, not the student
Speaker 1: being asked what they wanted. He tweeted a video clip
Speaker 1: of just the response with the words at Portland State
Speaker 1: inter Faith panel today, the Muslim student speakers said that
Speaker 1: Apple States will be killed or banished in an Islamic state.
Speaker 1: Sounds great. Journalism would say it at an all faiths
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, college. Yeah, and we see kind of the
Speaker 1: same O'Keefe, tach dick where you you you pick out
Speaker 1: just the answer to a question that if you strip
Speaker 1: it up all context sounds bad. But if included with context,
Speaker 1: is just people having a discussion. Um, but you don't
Speaker 1: include the discussion because the news story is just that clip.
Speaker 1: Um yeah. It was a moment perfectly crafted for the
Speaker 1: right wing rage machine. Bright Bart quickly farted out a
Speaker 1: news story titled Muslim student claims that nonbelievers will be
Speaker 1: killed in Islamic countries. So the fallout all this was significant.
Speaker 1: Andy was fired from the newspaper, which led to more
Speaker 1: rage from the right as they rallied around their victimized
Speaker 1: truth teller. Andy was allowed to write an op ed
Speaker 1: for The National Review where he basically claimed that he
Speaker 1: had been let go for exposing the moral bankruptcy at
Speaker 1: the heart of multiculturalism. The Vanguard's editor said that Andy
Speaker 1: had been fired instead for oversimplifying the student's answered to
Speaker 1: the point of rank and accuracy. The editor also noted
Speaker 1: that Andy seemed baffling le and dangerously focused on Islam,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that very few Muslim people live anywhere
Speaker 1: in Oregon and there have been no Islamic terrorist attacks
Speaker 1: in the state of note uh now that any hope
Speaker 1: of Yeah, so at this point, any hope of career,
Speaker 1: of Andy's career as a legitimate journalist had been shot,
Speaker 1: and Andy no moved on to the refuge of all
Speaker 1: shameless partisan hacks. Are they suggesting that nine eleven was
Speaker 1: not an attack on all of America? Because that's bullshit.
Speaker 1: We were all attacked that day, all right, we were
Speaker 1: all attacked that day. I mean, I guess fair on
Speaker 1: your joke too. I'm sure in Oregon ian or two
Speaker 1: died in that attack, But yeah, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: just it's telling that his focus is entirely on Islam,
Speaker 1: when if you look at the problem of political and
Speaker 1: religious violence in Oregon. Um, that's not really a big
Speaker 1: issue there. Um. Yeah. So and he moves on to
Speaker 1: podcasting after he gets kicked out of the newspaper. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I hate to admit it, Jack, but he kind
Speaker 1: of picked a perfect title for his new show, You
Speaker 1: want to You want to guess what Andy No calls
Speaker 1: his podcast, uh something with his last name you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is something, It's Yeah. He called it Things you
Speaker 1: Should Know. Mm hmmmmm wow. I mean yes, And he
Speaker 1: already has a job, so I can't go out and
Speaker 1: hire him on the spot. No, No, you can't. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean I was ripping him off when I pitched
Speaker 1: the title for this podcast initially as Things you should
Speaker 1: Robert Evans. Um. We we didn't go with that for
Speaker 1: some reason. But I mean, maybe we could sue him
Speaker 1: for copyright infringement for stuff you should Know? Yes, you
Speaker 1: should know? So. Uh. Andy's guests were men like Jordan Peterson,
Speaker 1: YouTuber Sargon of a Cod, Dave Ruben, and other alt
Speaker 1: right in intellectual dark Web figures. But podcasting is hard
Speaker 1: and only super profitable if you have the voice of
Speaker 1: a Greek god like us, or you happen to be
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan. Like Joe Rogan, uh so, Andy No looked
Speaker 1: towards the and a highly lucrative example set by what
Speaker 1: I liked that Yeah, that part was fun to write. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Andy looked towards the highly lucrative example set by
Speaker 1: James O'Keeffe. Uh Andy had already succeeded in making one
Speaker 1: story go viral on the right wing, and unfortunately he
Speaker 1: hadn't moved quick enough to properly capitalize on the opportunity.
Speaker 1: So he set to work crafting another viral piece of
Speaker 1: fake news and the hope that it, too would set
Speaker 1: the right wing rage machine a light and direct donations
Speaker 1: to his patreon. On August twenty nine, two eighteen, Andy
Speaker 1: No published an article titled a Visit to Islamic England
Speaker 1: on the Wall Street Journal. I'm just gonna read how
Speaker 1: this article opened a visit to Islamic England. The subheading
Speaker 1: is Muslims headed to Friday prayer while non Muslims went
Speaker 1: the other way. No one made eye contact. Here's how
Speaker 1: it opens London. Other tourists may remember London for its
Speaker 1: spectacular sites in history, but I remember it for his um.
Speaker 1: When I was visiting the UK as a teenager in
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, I got lost in an East
Speaker 1: London market. There I saw a group of women wearing
Speaker 1: head to toe black cloaks. I froze, confused and intimidated
Speaker 1: by the faceless figures. It was my first encounter within
Speaker 1: Ni Cobb, which covers everything but a woman's eyes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I did actually include this in the script. But there's
Speaker 1: literally a quote from Adolph Hitler where he's talking about
Speaker 1: how he first realized the Jews were dangerous, where he
Speaker 1: talks about seeing a fundamentalist Jewish man wearing like the
Speaker 1: hair locks and the yamaka in public in Vienna, and
Speaker 1: like he said, I found myself asking first is this
Speaker 1: a Jew? And then is this a German? Like that?
Speaker 1: That's literally something Adolph Hitler wrote about, like his like
Speaker 1: that's how Andy opens this fucking article. Um, this was
Speaker 1: published in what publications? The Wall Street motherfucking journal what,
Speaker 1: which you might remember, Google considers to be the most
Speaker 1: credible source. Yeah, I mean because they over both sides,
Speaker 1: the cified of people from other cultures and and the
Speaker 1: other side. Yeah, it's um, it's pretty wild. Now. The
Speaker 1: article was torn apart by people who actually live in England, which,
Speaker 1: in case you were not aware, Jack is not an
Speaker 1: Islamic state. Muslims makeup roughly five percent of the English population. No,
Speaker 1: he just saw one one of them and it scared him.
Speaker 1: It scared him. People weren't making eye contact Jack. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also this is a story of a time he
Speaker 1: got scared in two thousand six. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he went more recently for the article, like
Speaker 1: for the like he he opens it with a story
Speaker 1: of himself there in two thousand and six. He's a
Speaker 1: bit of an anglophile, but he he went back for
Speaker 1: the article. Um, so you know that that. I should
Speaker 1: note that in fairness, In more fairness, I should note
Speaker 1: that exaggerations and outright bullshit were very common in the article.
Speaker 1: At one point, Andy No complained about seeing a sign
Speaker 1: that called a neighborhood and alcohol restricted zone. Without doing
Speaker 1: any further research, Like a journalist, Andy just assumed that
Speaker 1: since alcohol is haram from Muslims, they were behind this
Speaker 1: nefarious sign. The reality is that this neighborhood was an
Speaker 1: alcohol free zone due to a public safety ordinance created
Speaker 1: to stem a massive public drunkenness problem. Alcohol itself was
Speaker 1: not banned, just street drinking. But of course Andy did
Speaker 1: no digging and blamed Muslims for banning alcohol in this neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Muslims for the fact that you're not allowed to drink
Speaker 1: on the street in America. Yeah, it's it's fucking wild man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I do shout that regularly at police when they
Speaker 1: arrest me for public drunkenness. What is this isis? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I should note that I've spent time, like, obviously there
Speaker 1: are Muslim countries where alcohol is forbidden or very difficult
Speaker 1: to acquire. But I have gotten so drunk in so
Speaker 1: many Muslim majority nations and never had a problem with it,
Speaker 1: and met so many Muslims who were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we drink too, it's fine, Like it's it's like you
Speaker 1: meet a lot of Jewish people who eat shellfish, you know.
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, because conservatives are scared of Muslims,
Speaker 1: they assume that it's some like hardcore dictate that every
Speaker 1: one of them follows, which like if you've ever, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I've I've gotten drunk with a lot of
Speaker 1: young women in head scarfs, Like it's it's far from
Speaker 1: universally applied. I didn't make eye contact with you. How
Speaker 1: did you manage to unfreeze yourself while you were around
Speaker 1: those women? I mean, I will say they were not
Speaker 1: wearing the cobs. Have never gotten drunk with somebody wearing
Speaker 1: the full na cob. Those people tend to be much
Speaker 1: more serious about the letter of of of Islamic Jewish
Speaker 1: prudence or whatever you call it. But um yeah uh now.
Speaker 1: In response to complaints about his shitty article, Andy wrote
Speaker 1: a follow up in The American Spectator, another right wing
Speaker 1: news site. Here's how he tried to defend him self.
Speaker 1: These vitriolic attacks all seized on my mistake over the
Speaker 1: sign as evidence of my prejudice against Muslims. In fact,
Speaker 1: it was just trying and perhaps sometimes failing, to describe
Speaker 1: what I saw. I admit to having been surprised by
Speaker 1: quite how segregated some parts of Britain have become. I
Speaker 1: tried it to make judgments about that, But what I
Speaker 1: believe to be true is that Britain's multicultural policies had
Speaker 1: produced with Nobel Prize winning economist Martya Sin calls plural
Speaker 1: monol culturism. That is, different communities or mono cultures existing
Speaker 1: side by side with literally to no interaction with one another,
Speaker 1: which I don't know if you've ever seen what drunken
Speaker 1: British people eat when they're out on the street, which
Speaker 1: tends to be donner Kebab's like like, there's there's plenty
Speaker 1: of interchange, and so he's saying that. He was actually
Speaker 1: talking about how the cultures don't interact enough. It was
Speaker 1: his was his issue. But he's the one who in
Speaker 1: the story that opens the piece, freezes and terror when
Speaker 1: he sees a Muslim woman. Yeah, I think, as as
Speaker 1: is generally true with bigots, his writing reveals his own
Speaker 1: prejudices more than it does any actual problems at the
Speaker 1: core of British culture or multiculturalism as a whole. So uh. Sadly,
Speaker 1: this article did not succeed in making Annie Know a
Speaker 1: household name or hurning him a spot with an outfit
Speaker 1: like Project Veritas, so he kept going. In the wake
Speaker 1: of the Jesse Smollett case, he started keeping a running
Speaker 1: tally of fake hate crimes, which he would collect and
Speaker 1: cover in articles with titles like Inventing Victimhood and hate
Speaker 1: Crime Hoaxes Reflect America's sickness, and he also took to
Speaker 1: the streets live streaming and writing about the escalating series
Speaker 1: of violent political rallies that have rocked Portland since the
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen election. In October of eighteen, he showed
Speaker 1: up at a peaceful rally by the activist group Don't
Speaker 1: Shoot Portlands, a march raising awareness for the police killing
Speaker 1: of Patrick Kimmins, a twenty seven year old black man.
Speaker 1: This was a fairly tame and orderly march. The only
Speaker 1: really negative moment came when a driver made an a
Speaker 1: legal right hand turn and hit some protesters who were
Speaker 1: legally crossing a crosswalk. This led several protests just to
Speaker 1: hit the driver's vehicle. One protester shoved the driver. No
Speaker 1: one was seriously hurt, and the driver was allowed to
Speaker 1: pull away. A reasonable person might conclude that the protesters
Speaker 1: raged at the driver was understandable, given that he'd driven
Speaker 1: a car into them, and given the car based terrorist
Speaker 1: attack on protesters in Charlottesville a year before. But a
Speaker 1: right wing radio station w CBM retweeted footage of one
Speaker 1: angle of the altercation, edited to remove all context of
Speaker 1: the event. They tweeted out with this, Antifa anarchists threatened
Speaker 1: elderly driver in Portland. The story spread across white right
Speaker 1: wing media. One of the people who helped to spread
Speaker 1: it was Andy no Uh nose tweets eventually reached Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 1: and Mr Carlson had Andy no on as a guest
Speaker 1: to discuss the attack. So that's what we're gonna listen
Speaker 1: to next. But first, Sophie is informing me via vociferously
Speaker 1: waved fingers that it is time for an ad break.
Speaker 1: So yep, yep, what what's what's an ad break? Well, act,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you realize this, but the money
Speaker 1: in podcasting comes from a collection of advertisers who who
Speaker 1: support our our content with their products and services and
Speaker 1: the advertising petro dollars that they generate. Um petro dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I try to use that term once a day. Um.
Speaker 1: I usually just shouted at people on the street as
Speaker 1: I drive past. But today it's going to be in
Speaker 1: a podcast. Products we're back, so uh, we're talking about
Speaker 1: you know, this car hits protesters. Some of them hit
Speaker 1: the car back because they're angry getting hit by a car,
Speaker 1: and uh. The story spreads and right wing media as
Speaker 1: anarchists threatening an elderly driver. UM. Dr Carlson has Andy
Speaker 1: No on to discuss the event the attack. Uh. The
Speaker 1: on screen shiron above their below the discussion is antipha
Speaker 1: violence out of control. So I'm gonna play a ship
Speaker 1: from that. Here's Andy no talking to Tucker Carlson. Some
Speaker 1: of the footage you showed was recorded over the weekend
Speaker 1: on Saturday by Brandon Farley, and that was a protest
Speaker 1: organized by Don't Shoot Portland's, which is a Black Lives
Speaker 1: Matter type of group. They were protesting the police involved
Speaker 1: shooting of a man who is suspective of shooting two people.
Speaker 1: The police here, um take a pretty hands off approach
Speaker 1: much of the time with protesters. And what you saw
Speaker 1: on Saturday in the video is that demonstrators were allowed
Speaker 1: to take over a street in downtown Portland and direct
Speaker 1: traffic and threatened drivers stop traffic while the police looked
Speaker 1: on from a block away because they were afraid of
Speaker 1: inflaming the situation. So, um, there's a couple of things
Speaker 1: you might have noticed from that video. One of them
Speaker 1: is and he's accent was as Yeah, that's his fake
Speaker 1: British accent um, which he has affected since he became
Speaker 1: a media personality. I want to reiterate that he was
Speaker 1: born and raised in Portland, Oregon. I was so confused
Speaker 1: by that. Yeah, yeah, he he pretends to be British.
Speaker 1: Sounds like what's his name, Sebastian Gorka. Yeah, he's not
Speaker 1: good at having a fake British accent, but I think
Speaker 1: he's he's a real Anglo file. Um. Yeah, he's He
Speaker 1: sounds a little bit like Frasier Crane. Um. Yeah. Now
Speaker 1: the other thing you may have noticed is that in
Speaker 1: this interview he basically describes the police as ignoring anti fascists.
Speaker 1: At one point, he says that the response to Antifa
Speaker 1: has been hands off in the city of Portland. I
Speaker 1: should note that he described this response as hands off
Speaker 1: five months after Portland police opened fire with grenades upon
Speaker 1: a crowd of anti fascist activists. One man was shot
Speaker 1: in the back of the head the less than lethal
Speaker 1: munition cractice skull and would have killed him had he
Speaker 1: not been wearing a helmet. Um. But that hands off
Speaker 1: them with their hands I mean with Truncheon's hands off technically.
Speaker 1: Uh so. The faux outrage over this non incident helped
Speaker 1: inspire a patriot prayer rally organized by the group's leader,
Speaker 1: Joey Gibson, which he called Flash March for Law and
Speaker 1: Order in Portland. The march provided onlookers with a great
Speaker 1: example of what happens when these far right rallies are
Speaker 1: not met by an organized anti fascist presence. Right wing
Speaker 1: brawlers assaulted numerous people on the street as scattered anti
Speaker 1: fascists struggled to respond. You can find video of right
Speaker 1: wing gang members stomping on people and punching them unprovoked.
Speaker 1: This happened a matter of days after a group of
Speaker 1: Proud Boys ran rough shot over a neighborhood in New
Speaker 1: York City, assaulting outnumbered counter protesters. Now andy No hadn't
Speaker 1: filmed the video of the car assault that Tucker Carlson publicized,
Speaker 1: but he had helped spread it, and by showing up
Speaker 1: on Carlson's show pretending to be a non biased journalist
Speaker 1: in making anti fascists look dangerous, he'd found a lucrative
Speaker 1: niche for himself, the one that he had been looking
Speaker 1: for all his career. So a little bit after that
Speaker 1: video went viral, another video went viral on Tucker Carlson's
Speaker 1: The Daily Caller as a result of a tweet that
Speaker 1: Andy No had sent out on the surface. This video
Speaker 1: showed a left wing activist yelling at a woman who
Speaker 1: claimed to be a nine eleven widow. She was not
Speaker 1: actually a nine eleven widow. She was lying about that,
Speaker 1: but Tucker Carlson credited No with bringing the video to
Speaker 1: a site's attention, although No had not actually filmed it.
Speaker 1: The video ignited the right wing rage machine and sent
Speaker 1: hundreds of extremely online conservatives into a doxing frenzy. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: they were bad at it, and rather than doxing the
Speaker 1: actual activists, they docked a professional skateboarder that they misidentified
Speaker 1: as the culprit. When the actual dude was finally identified,
Speaker 1: he received mass death threats, as did the social service
Speaker 1: agency who employed him. According to a round guptam who
Speaker 1: interviewed a source at the agency, it was quote flooded
Speaker 1: with hundreds of harassing calls and Facebook messages that were
Speaker 1: explicitly racist and threatening to harm and kill staff. So
Speaker 1: this has going on for months on end Andy No
Speaker 1: publicizing and often editing misleading videos to sick angry conservatives
Speaker 1: on coal Portland activists, many of them have received death
Speaker 1: threats as a result of this. In an article for
Speaker 1: the left wing website Jacobin. Gupta notes quote Jacobin has
Speaker 1: talked to six people in Portland, including journalists, political officials,
Speaker 1: and activists, who described harassing messages and threats of violence
Speaker 1: resulting from nose work or political involvement in Portland. Friends
Speaker 1: of two other activists claim they went into hiding after
Speaker 1: No spread their names and they became targets of harassment.
Speaker 1: Some individuals who's tangled publicly with No are reluctant to
Speaker 1: go on their record. They say they want to avoid
Speaker 1: the trauma of being subjected to a new round of
Speaker 1: death threats. In fact, and you know, seems to rely
Speaker 1: on people not speaking of about his effect on them.
Speaker 1: He often writes of how activists won't talk to him
Speaker 1: or how they take down social media profiles after he
Speaker 1: focuses on them, seeming to imply they have something to hide. Madison,
Speaker 1: a Portland activists who tracks No, says No signals that
Speaker 1: this is a person that should be targeted, should be harassed,
Speaker 1: and should be threatened, and he puts a target on them,
Speaker 1: and that results in the person being doxed, and he
Speaker 1: is giving people explicit permission to unleash hatred and violence
Speaker 1: on people. He absolutely knows what he's doing, knows what
Speaker 1: he's doing. Uh, you did it. Yeah, I can do
Speaker 1: the thing that he does. Yep, yep, it is okay
Speaker 1: for us to do because he did it. Um. Now
Speaker 1: we're actually gonna run into another case like that a
Speaker 1: little later. Uh nos role in stoking harassment against against
Speaker 1: individuals he disagrees with goes even deeper than that. See.
Speaker 1: Andy is now an editor at the far right website Quilette, which,
Speaker 1: among other things, runs articles that advocate for a cleaned up,
Speaker 1: modern version of phrenology. Earlier this year, Quilette ran an
Speaker 1: article by a researcher named Yoin uh Lenihan. On its surface,
Speaker 1: the article purported to be a groundbreaking study laying out
Speaker 1: a network of journalists who were secretly connected to Antifa. Now,
Speaker 1: the reality is that Yoin is no more a researcher
Speaker 1: than I am a tennis pro. His idea of being
Speaker 1: connected to Antifa was no deeper than tracking journalists who
Speaker 1: followed at least sixteen verified Antifa accounts and wrote articles
Speaker 1: he considered sympathetic to anti fascists. There are a number
Speaker 1: of reasons this is absurd. For example, I follow at
Speaker 1: least sixteen anti fascist accounts. I also follow Augustus and Victus,
Speaker 1: a literal neo Nazi running for president. I followed members
Speaker 1: of numerous right wing, extremist and terrorist groups on Twitter,
Speaker 1: because as a journalist, that's kind of what you do now.
Speaker 1: The Independent, in coverage of this even noted that Quilett's
Speaker 1: founding editor, Claire Lehman, follows more than sixteen white nationalist
Speaker 1: accounts on Twitter. But the fact that Lenihan was a
Speaker 1: complete fraud with no academic credentials, and the fact that
Speaker 1: his study was nonsense had no impact on Quilette. The
Speaker 1: study spread like wildfire through the fever swamps of the
Speaker 1: right and eventually made its way into the phones and
Speaker 1: computers of actual Nazi terrorists. One white nationalists tied to
Speaker 1: the Adam Waffen Division, posted a YouTube video that showed
Speaker 1: pictures of several of the journalists named in the Quilette article.
Speaker 1: The video was titled Sunset the Media, and it not
Speaker 1: so subtly suggested that these people should be murdered. The
Speaker 1: video ended with a quote from James Mason, a neo
Speaker 1: Nazi terrorist and author of the book Siege, which is
Speaker 1: a guide for how to commit terrorism. The quote was
Speaker 1: about so called lone wolf attacks. Mason said quote, I
Speaker 1: do not urge anyone to do anything like that, but
Speaker 1: when it gets done, I won't disown them. Jesus. Now,
Speaker 1: this all kind of pisces me off because a lot
Speaker 1: of the people named in the article and in that video,
Speaker 1: our colleagues and friends of mine. The Quilette article made
Speaker 1: it onto Stormfront and neo Nazi message board, the FBI
Speaker 1: has tied to more than a hundred murders, and it's
Speaker 1: led to a lot of death threats from different groups
Speaker 1: towards journalists who are really good reporters. By publishing the
Speaker 1: shot a piece of crap journalism, the editors at Quilette
Speaker 1: endangered the lives of innocent people. One of those people
Speaker 1: was reporter Shane Burley, he noted in an article for
Speaker 1: The Independent. Quote in a tweet, Quilette contributor Andy No
Speaker 1: attempted to identify us and others as covert Antifa ideologues
Speaker 1: posing as experts for willing journalists, all of whom apparently
Speaker 1: have joined together in a plot to create some kind
Speaker 1: of media Antifa industrial complex. So you can see why
Speaker 1: a lot of people in Portland are not exactly big
Speaker 1: fans of Mr Andy No. Their distaste for him would
Speaker 1: intensify after May one, two thousand nineteen. Now Portland is
Speaker 1: obviously a very left wing city, and made a marches
Speaker 1: are common there due to the sheer number of leftist
Speaker 1: activists in the streets. Right wing protesters like Joey Gibson,
Speaker 1: Patriot Prayer, and Century Proud Boys avoided hosting a single
Speaker 1: event where they would be swamped and swarmed, and instead
Speaker 1: traveled around in a small group, demasking people and generally trolling.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, they headed to a
Speaker 1: popular anti fascist hang out in the city named Cider Riot.
Speaker 1: Now cider Riot is a bar, although they get angry
Speaker 1: if you call them a bar and prefer the term
Speaker 1: CIDERI I'm going to be referring to them as a
Speaker 1: bar because they're a bar. Uh. Sorry, cider right. Uh.
Speaker 1: Joey Gibson and a group of his goons showed up
Speaker 1: there with Andy No in tow and assaulted several people there.
Speaker 1: Ian Kramer, a member of Patriot Prayer, whipped out a
Speaker 1: telescoping baton and shattered a young woman's vertebrae with it.
Speaker 1: The attack is on video and it is entirely unprovoked.
Speaker 1: There was no fight, just a violent assault that you
Speaker 1: could very fairly call attempted murder. Hey, everybody, one quick
Speaker 1: bit of clarification. When I say there was no fight,
Speaker 1: like there was a big brawl going on at cider
Speaker 1: Riot that was started initially when some guys from Patriot
Speaker 1: Prayer began macing the people at Cider Riot and they
Speaker 1: sprayed mace back, and it eventually evolved into throwing stuff
Speaker 1: and then a fist fight. Um. When I say there
Speaker 1: was no fight, I mean that the young woman whose
Speaker 1: vertebrate was broken was not fighting. She in fact had
Speaker 1: her back turn to Ian Cramer at the time when
Speaker 1: he swung at her. So I just wanted to clarify
Speaker 1: on that point. Now. In recent days, there have been
Speaker 1: a number of arrests I think six so far due
Speaker 1: to the May Day attack, but we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: that later. In the immediate wake of the attack, is
Speaker 1: Portland Local shared video of the brutal assault, Andy publicly
Speaker 1: doubted on Twitter whether the woman had suffered any kind
Speaker 1: of serious injury. He also docked her in a tweet
Speaker 1: in which he claimed, without proof that she had committed
Speaker 1: crimes at a previous event. His tweet read the anti
Speaker 1: full woman who got knocked out cold at may Day
Speaker 1: is and he gave her name. She is the person
Speaker 1: who tried to shut down the James to More Portland
Speaker 1: State panel last year by sabotaging and damaging sound equipment. Now,
Speaker 1: as you might imagine, this piste off more people. Several
Speaker 1: folks who were at cider Riot claimed No had basically
Speaker 1: lured them out of the bar and was thus a
Speaker 1: willing participant in the attack. I haven't seen any event
Speaker 1: that this is true, but I say this in order
Speaker 1: to give you an idea of the sort of attitude
Speaker 1: that developed around No in the wake of that attack.
Speaker 1: People were pissed at him. This all came to a
Speaker 1: head in July, during yet another set of dueling anti
Speaker 1: fascist rallies in Portland. Andy No showed up live streaming
Speaker 1: to the anti fascist side of things, where he was
Speaker 1: promptly doubted with multiple milkshakes. I was actually there for
Speaker 1: that part. Not long after that, he wound up surrounded
Speaker 1: by a group of masked anti fascists. Several of these
Speaker 1: people assaulted him, punching him a number of times. The
Speaker 1: video of the assault is very clear and quite ugly.
Speaker 1: No immediately filmed himself bruised and bloodied in the wake
Speaker 1: of the attack. Now, the assault went very viral and
Speaker 1: prompted calls from the President and Republican lawmakers to de
Speaker 1: claar Antifa a domestic terrorist organization. Even centrist journalists like
Speaker 1: Jake Tapper picked up on the story, reporting it as
Speaker 1: another case of antipha violence against journalists. Real story, I
Speaker 1: hate Jake Tapper. Yeah, he's he's he's he's a garbage reporter. Now,
Speaker 1: the real story is a lot more complicated than that.
Speaker 1: UM And you know is not a journalist. He has
Speaker 1: a right wing activist that does not justify as assault,
Speaker 1: which was absolutely not okay. But he was not a
Speaker 1: bystander just recording the event. And you know was a
Speaker 1: participant in a running series of street battles which have
Speaker 1: torn Portland's apart for the last three years. He got
Speaker 1: assaulted during one of these street battles, and again that's
Speaker 1: not okay. But his assault is no different from any
Speaker 1: of the hundreds of other assaults, most of which were
Speaker 1: against left wing demonstrators, that have taken place during the
Speaker 1: last three years. UM. And this fact is made very
Speaker 1: clear in a video that was released just a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, or just actually less than a week
Speaker 1: ago when we record this, which we'll talk about once
Speaker 1: we come back from an ad break. We're back, so
Speaker 1: as things currently stand, and he know has been assaulted
Speaker 1: uh in lie during a protest. The video goes viral,
Speaker 1: he shows up all over the media and within a
Speaker 1: matter of literally like hours, raises close to a quarter
Speaker 1: of a million dollars for his medical bills. UM. So
Speaker 1: that's what people knew. In July, now, roughly a month later,
Speaker 1: a full video from the May Day attack was released. UH.
Speaker 1: And this video showed was had been filmed by someone
Speaker 1: who had been walking and marching with Joey Gibson, Andy
Speaker 1: No and other right wing activists on their way to
Speaker 1: cider riot that May Day. Uh. The full video paints
Speaker 1: a very different picture of what happened than one I
Speaker 1: think No would have liked to have been known. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna quote the Portland's Mercury's coverage of the video quote.
Speaker 1: The most incendiary of the clips show a small group
Speaker 1: of Patriot Prayer members milling about a few blocks from
Speaker 1: the cider bar, waiting for instructions from Gibson, who's texting Joey?
Speaker 1: Someone asks, While the group seems to be without a
Speaker 1: game plan, another man says, tell Joey about and them
Speaker 1: to hurry the funk up. I hope they got like
Speaker 1: ten big dudes with them. As the group waits, they
Speaker 1: discussed their weaponry. A few men consider which way the
Speaker 1: winds blowing to avoid getting spray in their eyes. Another
Speaker 1: man holds a thick wooden dowel and practices swinging it
Speaker 1: like a baseball bat. Somewhere goggles helmets and tactical gloves.
Speaker 1: One woman is holding a brick. Who's the guy with
Speaker 1: the weapons? Here? A man holding a police baton says,
Speaker 1: appearing to become agitated, that the group has to wait
Speaker 1: for Gibson me. A little while later, someone in the
Speaker 1: group tells a person on speaker phone there's going to
Speaker 1: be a huge fight and gives them directions to cider riot.
Speaker 1: Now that all is pretty damning evidence of conspiracy to riot,
Speaker 1: which is what six of the people present there have
Speaker 1: been arrested for. And Andy no was present and filming
Speaker 1: for all of this, but not once in the wake
Speaker 1: of the attacks did he share any of his videos,
Speaker 1: any of his audio or report. This clear evidence of
Speaker 1: people planning planning to commit mass assault to the police
Speaker 1: or to the media. You can even in the video
Speaker 1: see him smile at one point as his comrades discussed
Speaker 1: their plans to attack the cider bar. This video makes
Speaker 1: it very clear that and you Know is not a journalist.
Speaker 1: He is a participant in this attack. Of course, none
Speaker 1: of this evidence was out in July when no was
Speaker 1: assaulted and he was able to is a huge amount
Speaker 1: of money. He claimed in the immediate wake of the
Speaker 1: attack that he had suffered a brain bleed. He has
Speaker 1: presented zero evidence of this. He flew across the across
Speaker 1: the country less than a week later and was checked
Speaker 1: out of the hospital the next day. I feel it's
Speaker 1: fair to question Knows honestly about the extent of his injuries,
Speaker 1: since that's exactly what he did to the young woman
Speaker 1: who had her spine broken outside of cider riot. Now,
Speaker 1: the good news seems to be that many journalists on
Speaker 1: the center have at least finally started waking up to
Speaker 1: Andy knows grift. During the August seventeen protests, which I
Speaker 1: also attended, No retweeted several edited chunks of other people's
Speaker 1: videos to try and push claims that Antifa has committed
Speaker 1: numerous assaults on decent, harmless right wing activists. To give
Speaker 1: you a brief summary of his lies, he claimed that
Speaker 1: a bicyclist swerved to avoid an Antifa person on a scooter,
Speaker 1: causing a serious accident. Uh. There was in fact a
Speaker 1: scooter bicycle accident during the time of the rally, but
Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with the protest or Antifa
Speaker 1: and Portland Police repeatedly pointed this out when challenged on
Speaker 1: this fact any know posted. Portland Police Bureau have released
Speaker 1: a press statement saying that too had actually collided when
Speaker 1: the woman on the scooter was going in the wrong direction.
Speaker 1: A source tells me she was part of the Antifa group.
Speaker 1: She and friends had been passing around the scooter and
Speaker 1: taking turns trying it out. Yeah. At another yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: damning Andy. Uh. At another point in the day, an
Speaker 1: armored school bus filled with members of American Guard, a
Speaker 1: fascist extremist group linked to nine murders and mosque burnings,
Speaker 1: attempted to cross into down town Portland to do god
Speaker 1: knows what. They were caught by anti fascists while stopped
Speaker 1: in traffic the anti fascists chucked water bottles and what
Speaker 1: appears to be sheet rock at the bus, which again
Speaker 1: was armored and had screens on most of the windows.
Speaker 1: Several of them kicked at the door of the bus.
Speaker 1: The fascists then opened the door of the bus and
Speaker 1: one of them began swinging a hammer at people's faces.
Speaker 1: One anti fascist managed to take the hammer from him
Speaker 1: and swing it back. Andy No tweeted edited video that
Speaker 1: just showed the anti fascist with the hammer and claimed
Speaker 1: that this had been an unprovoked attack by Antifa, something
Speaker 1: actual video evidence clearly contradicts. Again, this is the guy's
Speaker 1: fucking strategy. At several points he posted video or pictures
Speaker 1: of injured older men claiming they had been assaulted by Antifa.
Speaker 1: In every case, full video show that these men were
Speaker 1: taking place in street brawls and in some cases instigating them.
Speaker 1: One video is a picture of a clearly inebriated man
Speaker 1: who taped his fists up specifically to punch people, and
Speaker 1: repeatedly shouted the passer by where faggots. He was eventually
Speaker 1: succeeded in starting a fight. When he was beat up,
Speaker 1: Anti fascist street medics provided first aid care to him.
Speaker 1: This is all documented, But here's how Andy no characterized things,
Speaker 1: posting just a picture of the man on the ground.
Speaker 1: Middle aged man was maased and beaten by an Antifa mob.
Speaker 1: He was knocked unconscious to the ground. His partner or
Speaker 1: spouse was trying to protect him as the mob still
Speaker 1: surrounded them no police. When the man regained consciousness, he
Speaker 1: began like instigating fights immediately again like he was with
Speaker 1: the Yeah, yeah, cool, it's it's it's all pretty yeah. So,
Speaker 1: in the wake of the footage of the media attack
Speaker 1: and the sheer shocking number of lies Noah was caught
Speaker 1: telling about the August seventeenth rally, many Low Glen National
Speaker 1: reporters have begun to dissociate themselves from him. So it
Speaker 1: is possible that his grift has peaked and we're all
Speaker 1: about to watch him take a downhill slide. But if
Speaker 1: the lesson of James O'Keefe teaches us anything, it's that
Speaker 1: repeated and flagrant lies are no barrier to a lucrative
Speaker 1: career in right wing journalism. And based on that, I
Speaker 1: suspect that and you know is going to have a
Speaker 1: long and very profitable career. Has he been on Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson's show recently. I don't think he's been since August seventeen, actually,
Speaker 1: but I'm not a certain about that. Tucker Carlson also
Speaker 1: took a planned vacation recently, so maybe. Yeah, Well, after
Speaker 1: claiming that white supremacy was not a problem in the
Speaker 1: US after a white supremacist terror attack. He always seems
Speaker 1: to have these vacations planned for right after he says
Speaker 1: some just blatantly racist ship. It's weird. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: that's how I plan all of my vacations too, So
Speaker 1: I'm not going to hit him too much on that.
Speaker 1: You know. Uh, I don't know, and you know, it
Speaker 1: makes me very angry. I think he's a dangerous person, um,
Speaker 1: and I don't like him. That's the That's that's what
Speaker 1: I got. Yeah, that seems to be Um. You know,
Speaker 1: the actual Nazis during you know, the early twentieth century
Speaker 1: didn't make a bunch of very uh convincing documentaries, but
Speaker 1: they made a bunch of you know, famous works of propaganda.
Speaker 1: And because you have to uh edit the truth out
Speaker 1: of movies to get for the reality or presenting to
Speaker 1: cohere to your version of things. And it seems like
Speaker 1: that Yeah, these people are just propagandists who managed to
Speaker 1: hijack a very willing right wing media and a bad
Speaker 1: centrist media. You know, Andy know was responsible, like during
Speaker 1: them the rally in July for sharing this picture of
Speaker 1: what what If you look at the picture, it's an
Speaker 1: older man in his sixties um with white hair and
Speaker 1: just blood pouring down his face and the top of
Speaker 1: his shirt. UM, which you know, obviously was claimed to
Speaker 1: have been an old man assaulted by Antifa for no
Speaker 1: good reason, and it made it into like local reporting
Speaker 1: like cinterest and sort of mainstream local news organizations. Like
Speaker 1: one of the titles right above this picture was two
Speaker 1: more Oregon men or left bloody after violent Antifa attack
Speaker 1: at Portland's protest. There's other pictures of the same guy
Speaker 1: before he's bloody, with a telescoping baton and a fedora,
Speaker 1: smiling and rushing towards the crowd, and there's video of
Speaker 1: him sparking attacks and swinging a stick at people. The
Speaker 1: guy got hit in the head after swinging a baton
Speaker 1: at people and instigating attacks. Like, yeah, the violence definitely
Speaker 1: occurred on both sides, but this guy was an instigator
Speaker 1: and not an innocent old man, he was a dude
Speaker 1: swinging a fucking baton at people like That's part of
Speaker 1: the problem is that, like what's been happening in Portland
Speaker 1: is a complicated and conflicting series of street attles, and
Speaker 1: there's absolutely been bad actors on both sides. But the
Speaker 1: right wing media is trying to portray Antifa is this
Speaker 1: like violent organization, whereas the reality is most of them
Speaker 1: are more apt to do things like show up in
Speaker 1: banana costumes as a marching band or like like help
Speaker 1: hold prayer vigils and stuff, and there are a smaller
Speaker 1: number of guys who are there because they want to
Speaker 1: have a fight, whereas on the right you have also
Speaker 1: a shipload of people who show up because they want
Speaker 1: to have a fight, and sometimes members of both groups
Speaker 1: get their wish. But like the idea that this is
Speaker 1: terrorism or anything but two groups who hate each other
Speaker 1: fighting in the street um is pretty ridiculous. And the
Speaker 1: number of assaults that occur when the right wing demonstrators
Speaker 1: aren't uh checked by large scale groups of anti fascists
Speaker 1: like those are the least violent rallies when a shipload
Speaker 1: of anti fascists show up uh and just sort of
Speaker 1: drown them out, Like that's why on auguste there was
Speaker 1: no serious violence. Um, but so I mean in comparison,
Speaker 1: how do the number of people murdered by right wing
Speaker 1: extremists compared to the number of people murdered by Antifa. Well,
Speaker 1: so far there's been zero people murdered by Antifa. The
Speaker 1: closest thing you come to an attack carried out by
Speaker 1: someone who marched with any of those groups was, um,
Speaker 1: Willem Sprocken, the guy who attacked those ICE buses. Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: I screwed up again. His name was William van Spronson,
Speaker 1: not Sprocken. Sorry, I'm dumb and a hack and a fraud.
Speaker 1: And he didn't kill anybody. He attempted to destroy busses
Speaker 1: that were empty to stop ICE from being able to
Speaker 1: deport people. He was a guy who would yeah they
Speaker 1: they shot. He did have a gun with him, you know. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the closest you get to an Antifa attack with
Speaker 1: a body count of zero, whereas you know, uh, we're
Speaker 1: up to well over a hundred right wing deaths in
Speaker 1: the last year and change like death as there was
Speaker 1: ault of right wing terrorists in the last year in
Speaker 1: Change and The police have arrested twenty seven people since
Speaker 1: El Paso for planning terrorist attacks, the vast majority of
Speaker 1: whom had clear right wing and white supremacist ties. Um. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's weird. Yeah. I wonder how the right would react
Speaker 1: if and if killed a single person. Well, and this
Speaker 1: is what's really worrying to me, is that I suspect
Speaker 1: there absolutely will be probably inspired by like environmental activism, um,
Speaker 1: a deadly terrorist attack in the near future. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe on oil and gas employees or something like that. Um.
Speaker 1: And when that happens, it's going to be used as
Speaker 1: the justification for a vast uh crackdown on left wing activists,
Speaker 1: Whereas you know, there's been essentially was nothing done up
Speaker 1: until El Paso, you know, after it took It took
Speaker 1: dozens of right wing attacks for any kind of crackdown
Speaker 1: to occur, and even then it's been fairly mild. Um
Speaker 1: it's frustrating, it is, I would agree with that. Yeah. Hm.
Speaker 1: So everybody look forward to the eco terrorist attacks in
Speaker 1: our future. Um, and uh, keep an eye out for
Speaker 1: people like Andy No because they're full of ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1: All the pictures you when you just do a Google
Speaker 1: image search of him. It's all him with like a
Speaker 1: black guy appearing on various news things and just looking
Speaker 1: very uh, you know, beat down and yeah victimy. It's
Speaker 1: just yeah, he's uh. He talks about the victim culture,
Speaker 1: the people claiming to be victims, and that seems to
Speaker 1: be his whole m Oh yeah, that's he He really
Speaker 1: like getting assaulted. Um worked out very well for his career.
Speaker 1: I can say that. Uh, you know, he made a
Speaker 1: quarter of a million dollars in a matter of hours. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's he's, he's I don't know. I'd
Speaker 1: be interested to see his medical reports. Um. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: also suspect i'd be interested to see if he gets
Speaker 1: charged as a result of any of the videos that
Speaker 1: came out on cider Riot or about sider Right. He
Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't say really anything during those videos, but he's
Speaker 1: present the entire time, and UM, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: it's very like. I can say this as a guy
Speaker 1: who frequently is on in filming on the anti fascist
Speaker 1: side of things. If I was embedded with a group
Speaker 1: of these people and I heard them planning to attack
Speaker 1: a bunch of people sitting and chilling at a bar,
Speaker 1: and then one of the anti fascists I was with, unprovoked,
Speaker 1: broke a woman's spine. I would report that ship because
Speaker 1: that would be a serious crime and not Okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: that's what you do as a journalist, regardless of where
Speaker 1: your sympathies lie. And I think Andy's performance during the
Speaker 1: May Day attack is all the evidence you need that
Speaker 1: he's not a journalist. Yeah. I think that's pretty fair. Yeah, hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: just one quick update. Uh, Andy no no longer works
Speaker 1: at uh Quilette. Um. Some people say he's been fired.
Speaker 1: His name has certainly been removed from the masthead. I
Speaker 1: think some of his articles have been purged. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: his editor at his former editor at Quilette says that
Speaker 1: he wasn't laid off, that this was a plan departure.
Speaker 1: The timing certainly seems a little bit suspicious for that
Speaker 1: to have been the case. But either way, he seems
Speaker 1: to be currently unemployed, so we will see, um whether
Speaker 1: or not his career recovers from all this. Anyway, Jack,
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