WEBVTT - Andy Ngo: The Next Generation of News Grifter 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:07.160 M what's part in my twos? I'm Robert Evans, host 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:11.119 behind the Bastards. Uh, this is what what what? What is? 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:13.320 What is what? What is what? The last ye, Sophie, 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.919 let's part in my twos. That's a solid introduction. I 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:23.160 think you nailed it, Thank you, Jack. Sophie is being 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.520 mean to me because she's the bastard of this episode. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:31.120 Um well really how mean she is to me? Yeah? 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:39.440 You know, I'm still building to that one. Uh. This 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.199 is the show about the worst people in all the history, obviously, 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.760 And in last episode we talked about James O'Keefe, the 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.560 patron saint of news grifters, and in this episode we're 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.280 going to talk about I don't know, he hasn't worked 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.040 with O'Keefe, but you might call him his spiritual disciple, 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.240 a fella named Andy No. Uh. Now, James O'Keeffe is 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.240 higher profile than have you heard a thing about Andy No? Jack? 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.720 A recent attest started seeing people tweet about him and yeah, 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:09.160 I saw the hammer thing that happened. Yeah, that was 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.280 him where he claimed the Antifa attacked somebody with a 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:17.520 hammer and it was actually then being at that Yeah. Yeah, 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:21.600 And Andy's a frequent guest on Tucker Carlson. He's very influential. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:23.960 He just hasn't been around as long as O'Keefe in 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.080 the media sphere, so he's not quite as well known, 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.119 although he's getting to be that way, so it's probably 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.480 good for us to talk about him today. Uh Andy 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.679 Kuong No was born in Portland, Oregon, at some point 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.119 in nineteen eighties six. I don't have an exact birth 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.520 date for the guy. His parents had immigrated from Vietnam 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.520 via boat slightly less than a decade before. They've been 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.280 forced into re education camps by the country's government, which 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.440 may explain some of the political attitudes that No inherited. 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.680 As a young man, No intended U c l A 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.440 and volunteered with AmeriCorps. He graduated in two thousand nine 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.320 with a graphic design degree. Like roughly forty scent of 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.960 the people I went to college with, and like all 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.160 of my friends, he was unable to find any work 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.680 because graphic design degrees were essentially a scam played upon 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.760 members of my generation. Uh He was forced to take 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.960 work as a photographer for a used car lot, and 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.680 he spent a lot of time unemployed. No would later 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.760 tell BuzzFeed quote. My brain wasn't a stupor. I couldn't 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.760 spend the rest of my life going from minimum wage 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.799 job to minimum wage job. It's pretty sympathetic so far. 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.239 A lot of us have been there. Uh, like many 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.880 millennials who realized they'd been grifted by the system into 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.080 taking on buckets of student loan debt for a degree 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.400 that wouldn't actually get them a job, and he turned 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.520 back towards the only thing that made sense to him, 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.840 more school and more student loan debt. In two thousand 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.519 and fifteen, he enrolled in a master's program and political 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:48.880 science at Portland State University. So yeah, that's this guy's 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.520 story so far. Now. No had been raised Buddhist and 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.240 converted to Christianity in high school, but he became an 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.640 atheist in the mid oughts. In two thousand twelve, he 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.960 attended a Portland convention of the Freedom From Legion Foundation. 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.280 As he got drawn into Internet atheist circles, he grew 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.680 increasingly concerned about Islam. This was heightened in two thousand, 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.640 fourteen and fifteen as the Islamic state rose to prominence. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.480 No became fascinated with radicalism, and not just the Muslim kind. 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.480 As social justice causes became more prominent across American campuses, 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.400 Andy No grew concerned that a frenzy was overtaking American culture. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.360 According to a BuzzFeed profile quote, he attended an event 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.600 at PSU where he said white students weren't allowed to speak, 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.840 and another where he said a black student said she 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:33.840 feared that she would be killed on campus by a 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.560 white supremacist. I'm from this city, No remembered thinking, and 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.400 they believe Portland's state is a place where there are 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.360 a white racist all over who can come out but 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.360 at any time and kill you. It didn't seem to 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.000 fit with reality. More than that, No thought he saw 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.560 parallels with the Marxist Revolution his parents had lived through 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.240 in Vietnam. I was deeply curious on how those beliefs 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:55.520 could take root in my family's adopted hometown. So a 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.040 couple of things to note, one of which is that 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.880 Oregon was literally founded as a white supremacist state, and 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.280 there have been several very well documented murders of black 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:07.280 people by white supremacists in Portland itself within the last 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:13.520 couple of decades, so it's well it was attempted a 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.479 guy named Jeremy Christian carried out an attack on a 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.240 Portland Max train where he was threatening violence on two 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.320 young Muslim women, one of him was black, and two 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.599 other passengers intervened and were stabbed to death protecting them. 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.440 That was so. Yeah, there's a reason to be scared 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.560 of white supremacists if you live in the city of Portland. Yeah. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:38.640 What a silly claim that woman was making. Yes, Yes, 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:43.280 stupid of her to be worried, uh about white supremacists 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.080 who have only killed a couple of people in Oregon recently, 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:50.159 as opposed to worried about Muslims who have killed zero 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:56.320 oregon Ians. Uh. In by being attacked and thus drawing 0:04:56.400 --> 0:05:01.840 that person to uh defend her, wasn't that woman? Uh 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:06.880 sort of responsible? She was? She was. If she had 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.120 just not been on the bus, there would have been 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:14.200 no attack. Yeah. I mean, there's two sides here. There's 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.480 two sides here, both sides of this one. Robert. Yeah, 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.320 that does remind me of how it was explained to 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.720 me traffic rules work for foreigners in Japan that if 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.320 you're a foreigner and you're involved in a traffic altercation, 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.799 it's generally viewed as your fault because if you hadn't 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:36.920 moved to Japan, the crash wouldn't happen. Um, yeah, now, 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.120 no claims. All of this stuff pushed him into becoming 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.080 a free speech activist and a journalist. He joined the 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.520 Portland State Vanguard, a school paper, as its multimedia editor. 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.040 In two thousands seventeen, he showed up at an interfaith 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.240 talk at the university called Unpacking Misconceptions. During the talk, 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.200 a Muslim student was asked for their interpretation of chronic 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.680 law and how it would apply to non Muslims living 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.600 in an Islamic state if that country applied the strictest 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:05.599 interpretations of chronic law. The student responded that, based on 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.440 her understanding, non Muslims would be asked to leave the country. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.960 The implication is that they would be killed if they 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.719 did not. Another Muslim immediately argued against this interpretation of 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.359 the law, which is, by the way, absolutely not what 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.560 the Koran says. It's actually the opposite of a bunch 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.480 of ship. Mohammed said, Uh, if you're a Muslim and 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.640 running a society according to like the rules Mohammed set out, 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.320 you're actually required to treat people of the book in 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.640 certain ways and protect them. Um, but no, ignored that 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.960 other students response, and ignored the fact that the first 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.760 response had been to a theoretical question, not the student 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.599 being asked what they wanted. He tweeted a video clip 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.640 of just the response with the words at Portland State 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.200 inter Faith panel today, the Muslim student speakers said that 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.960 Apple States will be killed or banished in an Islamic state. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.960 Sounds great. Journalism would say it at an all faiths 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:58.880 Uh yeah, college. Yeah, and we see kind of the 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.600 same O'Keefe, tach dick where you you you pick out 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.200 just the answer to a question that if you strip 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.160 it up all context sounds bad. But if included with context, 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.800 is just people having a discussion. Um, but you don't 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.000 include the discussion because the news story is just that clip. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.480 Um yeah. It was a moment perfectly crafted for the 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.440 right wing rage machine. Bright Bart quickly farted out a 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.720 news story titled Muslim student claims that nonbelievers will be 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:30.160 killed in Islamic countries. So the fallout all this was significant. 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.600 Andy was fired from the newspaper, which led to more 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.200 rage from the right as they rallied around their victimized 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.520 truth teller. Andy was allowed to write an op ed 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.840 for The National Review where he basically claimed that he 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.560 had been let go for exposing the moral bankruptcy at 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:46.119 the heart of multiculturalism. The Vanguard's editor said that Andy 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.280 had been fired instead for oversimplifying the student's answered to 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.200 the point of rank and accuracy. The editor also noted 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.480 that Andy seemed baffling le and dangerously focused on Islam, 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.320 despite the fact that very few Muslim people live anywhere 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.840 in Oregon and there have been no Islamic terrorist attacks 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.000 in the state of note uh now that any hope 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.680 of Yeah, so at this point, any hope of career, 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.440 of Andy's career as a legitimate journalist had been shot, 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.560 and Andy no moved on to the refuge of all 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.200 shameless partisan hacks. Are they suggesting that nine eleven was 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:20.560 not an attack on all of America? Because that's bullshit. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.880 We were all attacked that day, all right, we were 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:28.360 all attacked that day. I mean, I guess fair on 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.760 your joke too. I'm sure in Oregon ian or two 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.640 died in that attack, But yeah, I don't know. It's 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:38.199 just it's telling that his focus is entirely on Islam, 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.440 when if you look at the problem of political and 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:45.240 religious violence in Oregon. Um, that's not really a big 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.920 issue there. Um. Yeah. So and he moves on to 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.240 podcasting after he gets kicked out of the newspaper. Uh. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.560 And I hate to admit it, Jack, but he kind 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.360 of picked a perfect title for his new show, You 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.120 want to You want to guess what Andy No calls 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:05.800 his podcast, uh something with his last name you. Yeah, 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.120 it is something, It's Yeah. He called it Things you 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:17.760 Should Know. Mm hmmmmm wow. I mean yes, And he 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.560 already has a job, so I can't go out and 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:23.160 hire him on the spot. No, No, you can't. Um. 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.760 I mean I was ripping him off when I pitched 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.439 the title for this podcast initially as Things you should 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.280 Robert Evans. Um. We we didn't go with that for 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:36.839 some reason. But I mean, maybe we could sue him 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.040 for copyright infringement for stuff you should Know? Yes, you 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.720 should know? So. Uh. Andy's guests were men like Jordan Peterson, 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.680 YouTuber Sargon of a Cod, Dave Ruben, and other alt 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.480 right in intellectual dark Web figures. But podcasting is hard 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.520 and only super profitable if you have the voice of 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.720 a Greek god like us, or you happen to be 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.240 Joe Rogan. Like Joe Rogan, uh so, Andy No looked 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.320 towards the and a highly lucrative example set by what 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:12.640 I liked that Yeah, that part was fun to write. Um. Yeah, 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.640 so Andy looked towards the highly lucrative example set by 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.960 James O'Keeffe. Uh Andy had already succeeded in making one 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.840 story go viral on the right wing, and unfortunately he 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.920 hadn't moved quick enough to properly capitalize on the opportunity. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.520 So he set to work crafting another viral piece of 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.640 fake news and the hope that it, too would set 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.360 the right wing rage machine a light and direct donations 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:36.280 to his patreon. On August twenty nine, two eighteen, Andy 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.720 No published an article titled a Visit to Islamic England 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.360 on the Wall Street Journal. I'm just gonna read how 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:46.480 this article opened a visit to Islamic England. The subheading 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.760 is Muslims headed to Friday prayer while non Muslims went 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:53.880 the other way. No one made eye contact. Here's how 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.400 it opens London. Other tourists may remember London for its 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.200 spectacular sites in history, but I remember it for his um. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.520 When I was visiting the UK as a teenager in 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.400 two thousand and six, I got lost in an East 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.160 London market. There I saw a group of women wearing 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.480 head to toe black cloaks. I froze, confused and intimidated 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.800 by the faceless figures. It was my first encounter within 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:18.640 Ni Cobb, which covers everything but a woman's eyes. Yeah. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.120 I did actually include this in the script. But there's 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.160 literally a quote from Adolph Hitler where he's talking about 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.400 how he first realized the Jews were dangerous, where he 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:31.520 talks about seeing a fundamentalist Jewish man wearing like the 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:35.400 hair locks and the yamaka in public in Vienna, and 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.520 like he said, I found myself asking first is this 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.880 a Jew? And then is this a German? Like that? 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.040 That's literally something Adolph Hitler wrote about, like his like 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.800 that's how Andy opens this fucking article. Um, this was 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:53.280 published in what publications? The Wall Street motherfucking journal what, 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.560 which you might remember, Google considers to be the most 0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:00.959 credible source. Yeah, I mean because they over both sides, 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:08.800 the cified of people from other cultures and and the 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:14.200 other side. Yeah, it's um, it's pretty wild. Now. The 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.440 article was torn apart by people who actually live in England, which, 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.520 in case you were not aware, Jack is not an 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.719 Islamic state. Muslims makeup roughly five percent of the English population. No, 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:27.880 he just saw one one of them and it scared him. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:32.320 It scared him. People weren't making eye contact Jack. Yeah. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.680 And also this is a story of a time he 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:42.080 got scared in two thousand six. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, Yeah, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.760 I think he went more recently for the article, like 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.640 for the like he he opens it with a story 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.280 of himself there in two thousand and six. He's a 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.839 bit of an anglophile, but he he went back for 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.800 the article. Um, so you know that that. I should 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.040 note that in fairness, In more fairness, I should note 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.920 that exaggerations and outright bullshit were very common in the article. 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.240 At one point, Andy No complained about seeing a sign 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:08.199 that called a neighborhood and alcohol restricted zone. Without doing 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.400 any further research, Like a journalist, Andy just assumed that 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.520 since alcohol is haram from Muslims, they were behind this 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.640 nefarious sign. The reality is that this neighborhood was an 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.640 alcohol free zone due to a public safety ordinance created 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.319 to stem a massive public drunkenness problem. Alcohol itself was 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.199 not banned, just street drinking. But of course Andy did 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:31.720 no digging and blamed Muslims for banning alcohol in this neighborhood. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.439 Muslims for the fact that you're not allowed to drink 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:41.959 on the street in America. Yeah, it's it's fucking wild man. Yeah, 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.080 I I do shout that regularly at police when they 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:50.440 arrest me for public drunkenness. What is this isis? Yeah, 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.280 I should note that I've spent time, like, obviously there 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:57.000 are Muslim countries where alcohol is forbidden or very difficult 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.600 to acquire. But I have gotten so drunk in so 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.960 many Muslim majority nations and never had a problem with it, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.520 and met so many Muslims who were like, oh, yeah, 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.360 we drink too, it's fine, Like it's it's like you 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.640 meet a lot of Jewish people who eat shellfish, you know. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.920 But for whatever reason, because conservatives are scared of Muslims, 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.160 they assume that it's some like hardcore dictate that every 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.440 one of them follows, which like if you've ever, I 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.120 don't know, I've I've gotten drunk with a lot of 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.880 young women in head scarfs, Like it's it's far from 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:33.600 universally applied. I didn't make eye contact with you. How 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.840 did you manage to unfreeze yourself while you were around 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.080 those women? I mean, I will say they were not 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.960 wearing the cobs. Have never gotten drunk with somebody wearing 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.960 the full na cob. Those people tend to be much 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:48.800 more serious about the letter of of of Islamic Jewish 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.360 prudence or whatever you call it. But um yeah uh now. 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.160 In response to complaints about his shitty article, Andy wrote 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.040 a follow up in The American Spectator, another right wing 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.320 news site. Here's how he tried to defend him self. 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.360 These vitriolic attacks all seized on my mistake over the 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.080 sign as evidence of my prejudice against Muslims. In fact, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.840 it was just trying and perhaps sometimes failing, to describe 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.000 what I saw. I admit to having been surprised by 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.480 quite how segregated some parts of Britain have become. I 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.280 tried it to make judgments about that, But what I 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.920 believe to be true is that Britain's multicultural policies had 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:21.520 produced with Nobel Prize winning economist Martya Sin calls plural 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:25.400 monol culturism. That is, different communities or mono cultures existing 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.280 side by side with literally to no interaction with one another, 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.840 which I don't know if you've ever seen what drunken 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.120 British people eat when they're out on the street, which 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.560 tends to be donner Kebab's like like, there's there's plenty 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:41.360 of interchange, and so he's saying that. He was actually 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:45.880 talking about how the cultures don't interact enough. It was 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.880 his was his issue. But he's the one who in 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:55.200 the story that opens the piece, freezes and terror when 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:59.440 he sees a Muslim woman. Yeah, I think, as as 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.560 is generally true with bigots, his writing reveals his own 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.080 prejudices more than it does any actual problems at the 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:10.640 core of British culture or multiculturalism as a whole. So uh. Sadly, 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.960 this article did not succeed in making Annie Know a 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.520 household name or hurning him a spot with an outfit 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.880 like Project Veritas, so he kept going. In the wake 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.360 of the Jesse Smollett case, he started keeping a running 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.040 tally of fake hate crimes, which he would collect and 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.920 cover in articles with titles like Inventing Victimhood and hate 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:31.760 Crime Hoaxes Reflect America's sickness, and he also took to 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.520 the streets live streaming and writing about the escalating series 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.000 of violent political rallies that have rocked Portland since the 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.640 two thousand sixteen election. In October of eighteen, he showed 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.120 up at a peaceful rally by the activist group Don't 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.120 Shoot Portlands, a march raising awareness for the police killing 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.720 of Patrick Kimmins, a twenty seven year old black man. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.960 This was a fairly tame and orderly march. The only 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.160 really negative moment came when a driver made an a 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.760 legal right hand turn and hit some protesters who were 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.280 legally crossing a crosswalk. This led several protests just to 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.920 hit the driver's vehicle. One protester shoved the driver. No 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.240 one was seriously hurt, and the driver was allowed to 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.840 pull away. A reasonable person might conclude that the protesters 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.520 raged at the driver was understandable, given that he'd driven 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.760 a car into them, and given the car based terrorist 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:19.240 attack on protesters in Charlottesville a year before. But a 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.800 right wing radio station w CBM retweeted footage of one 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.680 angle of the altercation, edited to remove all context of 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.240 the event. They tweeted out with this, Antifa anarchists threatened 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.679 elderly driver in Portland. The story spread across white right 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.760 wing media. One of the people who helped to spread 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:39.479 it was Andy no Uh nose tweets eventually reached Tucker Carlson, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.040 and Mr Carlson had Andy no on as a guest 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.880 to discuss the attack. So that's what we're gonna listen 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.920 to next. But first, Sophie is informing me via vociferously 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.160 waved fingers that it is time for an ad break. 0:17:52.520 --> 0:18:00.200 So yep, yep, what what's what's an ad break? Well, act, 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.359 I don't know if you realize this, but the money 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:08.320 in podcasting comes from a collection of advertisers who who 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:13.159 support our our content with their products and services and 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:19.240 the advertising petro dollars that they generate. Um petro dollars. Yeah, 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.760 I try to use that term once a day. Um. 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.199 I usually just shouted at people on the street as 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:25.920 I drive past. But today it's going to be in 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:37.240 a podcast. Products we're back, so uh, we're talking about 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.120 you know, this car hits protesters. Some of them hit 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.879 the car back because they're angry getting hit by a car, 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.399 and uh. The story spreads and right wing media as 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:50.240 anarchists threatening an elderly driver. UM. Dr Carlson has Andy 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.960 No on to discuss the event the attack. Uh. The 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:57.920 on screen shiron above their below the discussion is antipha 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.160 violence out of control. So I'm gonna play a ship 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.719 from that. Here's Andy no talking to Tucker Carlson. Some 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.520 of the footage you showed was recorded over the weekend 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:11.400 on Saturday by Brandon Farley, and that was a protest 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.800 organized by Don't Shoot Portland's, which is a Black Lives 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.120 Matter type of group. They were protesting the police involved 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:23.560 shooting of a man who is suspective of shooting two people. 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:28.960 The police here, um take a pretty hands off approach 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:33.600 much of the time with protesters. And what you saw 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:38.640 on Saturday in the video is that demonstrators were allowed 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:43.640 to take over a street in downtown Portland and direct 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:49.720 traffic and threatened drivers stop traffic while the police looked 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.320 on from a block away because they were afraid of 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:56.560 inflaming the situation. So, um, there's a couple of things 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.359 you might have noticed from that video. One of them 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:03.720 is and he's accent was as Yeah, that's his fake 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:07.080 British accent um, which he has affected since he became 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.240 a media personality. I want to reiterate that he was 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.280 born and raised in Portland, Oregon. I was so confused 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:17.600 by that. Yeah, yeah, he he pretends to be British. 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:22.080 Sounds like what's his name, Sebastian Gorka. Yeah, he's not 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.320 good at having a fake British accent, but I think 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:28.040 he's he's a real Anglo file. Um. Yeah, he's He 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:32.520 sounds a little bit like Frasier Crane. Um. Yeah. Now 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.600 the other thing you may have noticed is that in 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:39.119 this interview he basically describes the police as ignoring anti fascists. 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.240 At one point, he says that the response to Antifa 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.720 has been hands off in the city of Portland. I 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:46.040 should note that he described this response as hands off 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.160 five months after Portland police opened fire with grenades upon 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.240 a crowd of anti fascist activists. One man was shot 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:54.120 in the back of the head the less than lethal 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:56.320 munition cractice skull and would have killed him had he 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:59.680 not been wearing a helmet. Um. But that hands off 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:07.399 them with their hands I mean with Truncheon's hands off technically. 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.440 Uh so. The faux outrage over this non incident helped 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.000 inspire a patriot prayer rally organized by the group's leader, 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.720 Joey Gibson, which he called Flash March for Law and 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.280 Order in Portland. The march provided onlookers with a great 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.520 example of what happens when these far right rallies are 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.640 not met by an organized anti fascist presence. Right wing 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.560 brawlers assaulted numerous people on the street as scattered anti 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:32.000 fascists struggled to respond. You can find video of right 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.879 wing gang members stomping on people and punching them unprovoked. 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:36.879 This happened a matter of days after a group of 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.040 Proud Boys ran rough shot over a neighborhood in New 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:43.600 York City, assaulting outnumbered counter protesters. Now andy No hadn't 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.399 filmed the video of the car assault that Tucker Carlson publicized, 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.320 but he had helped spread it, and by showing up 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.360 on Carlson's show pretending to be a non biased journalist 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.720 in making anti fascists look dangerous, he'd found a lucrative 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:56.800 niche for himself, the one that he had been looking 0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:00.879 for all his career. So a little bit after that 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.680 video went viral, another video went viral on Tucker Carlson's 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.159 The Daily Caller as a result of a tweet that 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.880 Andy No had sent out on the surface. This video 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.120 showed a left wing activist yelling at a woman who 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:14.639 claimed to be a nine eleven widow. She was not 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:16.959 actually a nine eleven widow. She was lying about that, 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.679 but Tucker Carlson credited No with bringing the video to 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.639 a site's attention, although No had not actually filmed it. 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:24.920 The video ignited the right wing rage machine and sent 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:29.280 hundreds of extremely online conservatives into a doxing frenzy. Unfortunately, 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:31.080 they were bad at it, and rather than doxing the 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.720 actual activists, they docked a professional skateboarder that they misidentified 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.760 as the culprit. When the actual dude was finally identified, 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.600 he received mass death threats, as did the social service 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.680