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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about a teacher who gave kids weed

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Speaker 1: gummies to celebrate one of their birthdays, a couple of

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Speaker 1: stories about inappropriate relationships adults have with children, and we'll

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Speaker 1: finish up the episode talking about one of the most

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Speaker 1: terrible inventions of our time, the meta smart glasses. All

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Speaker 1: that and more on today's episode, All Right, need Gummies

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Speaker 1: for Kids?

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Speaker 2: So, a substitute teacher is being accused of giving three

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Speaker 2: elementary school students weed gummies during an afterschool program to

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Speaker 2: celebrate one of their birthdays. But I have some questions

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Speaker 2: because this woman was never arrested and their family is

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Speaker 2: filing a civil law suit. So don't you feel like

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Speaker 2: if this was true and proven, she would face criminal charges.

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Speaker 1: I think that I do believe that it definitely happened,

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Speaker 1: because they picked the children up from school and brought

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Speaker 1: them to the hospital, meaning they consume gummies.

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying as far as the teacher giving them

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Speaker 2: to them deliberately and trying to accuse her of I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, it is possible that after investigation because she said

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Speaker 1: she wanted to give the kids gummies to celebrate one

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Speaker 1: of their birthdays. Right, Yeah, I don't think that that

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Speaker 1: would be unusual. You know, my kids go to after

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Speaker 1: school programs sometimes that a teacher would say, Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: your birthday, here's candy. Yeah, exact kids. Teachers give the

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Speaker 1: kids candy all the time. So if they did the

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Speaker 1: investigation and genuinely believed her, she wouldn't get charged for it. Like, listen,

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Speaker 1: I know older people that do these weed gummies and

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Speaker 1: like actually take too many of them sometimes. But there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of older retired people, especially like at the

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Speaker 1: after school program because they're they're like maybe not a teacher,

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Speaker 1: they're a retired teacher, and they're just kind of like

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Speaker 1: sitting there and like doing like maybe after school like

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Speaker 1: clubs or something like that. So is it a potential

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Speaker 1: that it's just an like a like a an older

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Speaker 1: person that just has them in their person didn't really

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Speaker 1: really like realize it or listen, Like I ran.

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Speaker 2: Through every possibility in my mind. This woman's fifty nine

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Speaker 2: years old, Like, yeah, she's in the she's starting to

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Speaker 2: get in the age bracket of.

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Speaker 1: Oh mom, I didn't realize that they gave her age

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Speaker 1: even more, Like, yeah, fifty nine is like it's not

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Speaker 1: that old though, like to be what it is for

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Speaker 1: some people. What I want to say, though, is like

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Speaker 1: I understand if this could have been a total accident,

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Speaker 1: like she she took them, she mistakenly switched them up, whatever,

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Speaker 1: But like I feel like even if they proved that

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Speaker 1: that she could face some kind of negligence charge or something,

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Speaker 1: because like technically she poisoned the kids, Like really if

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Speaker 1: you want to think about it like that, but like

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Speaker 1: there's no mention of criminal charges, just this civil suit

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Speaker 1: filed by the kids guardians. I don't know. I keep

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Speaker 1: trying to put myself in the shoes, and I'm like

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Speaker 1: I would be if my kids if this happened to

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Speaker 1: my kids, I'd be pissed. But like, ultimately, if it

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Speaker 1: was truly like an accident and my kids didn't get hurt,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like they got hurt temporarily, but if they

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Speaker 1: Like this is scary from I can't imagine picking because

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Speaker 1: I pick my kids up from school every day. I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine picking my children up from school, and them

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Speaker 1: being lethargic, having a hard time keeping their eyes open,

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Speaker 1: and and me being like, what happened, and you know,

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Speaker 1: them just not really being able to communicate like exactly

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Speaker 1: what happened? Oh, what happened? Did you eat something? Oh?

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Speaker 1: The only thing I ate was this candy that my

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Speaker 1: teacher gave me, because like I know, in my house,

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Speaker 1: don't have it in my house, So it wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: in my mind of the differential of like what's happening

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Speaker 1: for a parent to pick up a kid that's that

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Speaker 1: that looks high, that's that's you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's I agree with you. I'm just saying, like,

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Speaker 2: is there a possibility that the teacher gave them regular

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Speaker 1: So they're eight and ten years old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like we just we cut a story last

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Speaker 2: week that a child brought up our teeny to school

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Speaker 1: But that wasn't that wasn't the kids. The kid didn't

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Speaker 2: Like saying, like, I just find it very suss that

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Speaker 2: of that. Maybe she did and they didn't mention this article.

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Speaker 2: I just thought they would have if she got like

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Speaker 2: there wasn't even like a police questioned her and she

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Speaker 1: The thing is, though, like whenever you think about a lawsuit,

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Speaker 1: it's just like, so, you're suing this fifty nine year

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Speaker 1: old aid at a school that makes no money, right,

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Speaker 1: what like what are you proving to get out of it?

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Speaker 1: It's just like the kids, the kids are fine. You're

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Speaker 1: doing the school in the school district too, though, But

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Speaker 1: like but for what because of like what compensation.

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Speaker 2: For negligence, negligent hiring, supervision, training, retention, and battery. I

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Speaker 2: don't know where the battery charge is coming from. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they're trying.

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Speaker 1: Seems like it seems like a I don't know, like

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Speaker 1: if it's like I'm saying this like based upon I

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Speaker 1: just picture this, like older lady. I have a whole

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Speaker 1: husband's recently just passed. She's just working there to get

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Speaker 1: addition to her husband's pension check that she gets. And

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Speaker 1: she takes weed gummies because she's like got anxiety like

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Speaker 1: everyone else in the world. And they're inner purse and

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Speaker 1: they look like gummy worms, and she's like, hey, kids,

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Speaker 1: like hit your birthday. Oh, like I have candy in

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Speaker 2: It seems it's like one or the other. I'll say,

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Speaker 2: most likely this situation happened. It became public knowledge that

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Speaker 2: I think this happened last year, so and then a

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Speaker 2: better call Saul or like rand Spear type problem.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly that's exactly what I'm thinking. I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: pop Dog law, Yeah, that's the one that's on the

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Speaker 1: billboards all the time. Yeah, yeah, I think that's more

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Speaker 1: likely what happened, that this happened. And then one of

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Speaker 1: I don't charge unless we win, and I know we'll win,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, and we're just gonna think of the most

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Speaker 1: outrageous charges exactly. Okay, this one is outrageous.

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Speaker 2: A former Louisiana mayor is facing seventeen years in prison

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Speaker 2: after her son caught her having sex with his sixteen

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Speaker 1: What. I just don't understand what is happening with women

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Speaker 1: wanting to have sex with teenagers. Dude, it it might

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Speaker 1: have been happening forever, but I feel like it's just

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Speaker 1: like a very like Mary Kaylaturno came out and just

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Speaker 2: This is exactly what I'm saying, Like I think there's

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Speaker 2: definitely been case of this happening forever, but like Mary

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Speaker 2: Kayla Turno was groundbreakingly shocking headlines that this teacher was

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Speaker 2: having sex with her student. And now it's like, if

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Speaker 2: you go on any news outlet, there's five of these

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Speaker 1: It is, it's out, it is and I just don't

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Speaker 1: I just really don't understand it.

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Speaker 2: And this lady is like in her forties, she's the

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Speaker 1: By the way, she's.

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Speaker 2: Divorced, she has two kids, and then she hosts this

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Speaker 2: alcohol infused pool party. She's even texting her son asking

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Speaker 2: what type of alcohol him and his friends. Was just

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Speaker 2: like I understand people are okay with their teenagers drinking,

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Speaker 2: but like throwing a ranger, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Understand why you're okay with your teenager drinking. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's just irresponsible. Honestly, Well, yeah, it just is.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like it is, it.

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Speaker 2: Is, and you have a more intense mindset on that.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of people are like, if they're gonna

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Speaker 2: do it anyway, I'd rather than have a beer or

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Speaker 2: two under braes.

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Speaker 1: Why would you let children drink alcohol at a pool party?

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Speaker 1: Like are you you're a moron? You're just a moron.

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Speaker 2: Some people justify it as they're going to do it anyway.

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Speaker 1: So I'd rather have.

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Speaker 2: Some supervision over a type of deal. But like, that's

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Speaker 2: not the that's not what's happening in this case. This

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Speaker 2: then her younger daughter is like testifying in court, which

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Speaker 2: is traumatic for a child to have to do in general,

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Speaker 2: that her mom and the victim were all over each

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Speaker 2: she wasn't even hiding it from the kids. The son,

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Speaker 2: who's a teenager, walks in on them having sex, and

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Speaker 2: then in court they're showing text messages where she's texting

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not pregnant, don't worry, I'm.

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Speaker 2: On birth control screenshots that she sends him. This sends

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Speaker 2: the message to an undisclosed additional group chat. It says,

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Speaker 2: I'll just take Plan B to that group chat, and

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Speaker 2: then a doordass driver had to testify that he did in.

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Speaker 1: Fact drop Plan B off at her house. So who

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Speaker 1: was she texting that information? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They didn't say who the group chat was, but she

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Speaker 2: screenshoted the conversation with the victim and then send it

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Speaker 2: to somebody else, which it's like, how.

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Speaker 1: Many people were privy to this? It could it be

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Speaker 1: like a thing that because it's not just the sex

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Speaker 1: I'm not a regular mom. I'm a cool mom. Like

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get my kids the alcohol and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: sit out back and party with them. It's like there's

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Speaker 1: some kind of like I don't know what the word

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for is, but like just you know when

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Speaker 1: you miss being a kid and you don't want to

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Speaker 1: and you're just like regressing and like arrested development. Shit,

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Speaker 1: just like you just stopped maturing after high school and

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Speaker 1: you thought that was such a great period of your

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Speaker 1: time and you want to like relive it or something.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it has to be that because like

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Speaker 2: I just like I just don't understand. I feel like

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Speaker 2: like stereotypically women want to be with older, more mature men,

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Speaker 2: not be in there like early to mid forties, and

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Speaker 2: then be having sex with a teenage boy.

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Speaker 1: Like it doesn't even make sense. It really does. So often. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's so often, and it's always like an authority figure

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Speaker 2: I mean, like all these women too on the outside

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Speaker 1: Okay, worst invention ever Top ten smart glasses.

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Speaker 2: Seriously, so this new app's coming out to alert you

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Speaker 2: if someone nearby is wearing smart glasses, which I think

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Speaker 2: is a really awesome idea.

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Speaker 1: I just think it needs some more development. It's it's

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Speaker 1: also only for androids. Oh who uses an Android? I

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Speaker 1: could be serious.

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Speaker 2: I think lots of people do apparently. I think doesn't

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Speaker 2: it range texters? I think does it really good idea?

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Speaker 2: But what I'm gathering by the way they explain it

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Speaker 2: is that you have to like go into the app

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Speaker 2: and then do a manual scan instead of you just

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Speaker 2: like walking and then it pinging you and saying somebody

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Speaker 2: near you is wearing smart glasses.

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Speaker 1: I just don't, like, I really don't see what the

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Speaker 1: point of them is.

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Speaker 2: They're they're they're so stupid, and like there's just a

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Speaker 2: million privacy concerns now, especially we're gonna talk about it

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: There's kids that have them in school, So, like Lucea

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Speaker 1: doesn't think it's that big of a deal because she's like,

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Speaker 1: I could tell if they're on when I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: a person. But I'm just like, what about a person

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Speaker 1: like momm that doesn't like really know about those glasses

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Speaker 1: or anything like with like it's definitely a problem for

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Speaker 1: older people that don't know that it's a thing. That's

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Speaker 1: anybody that doesn't know what's a thing. That's what I

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Speaker 1: was gonna ask, because I've never seen them in person,

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Speaker 1: Like is it obvious when they're on is there like

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Speaker 1: a light on that indicates it's recording or are they

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Speaker 1: just kind of subtly doing it. I saw them at

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Speaker 1: Lens Crafters one day when we were walking by, and

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Speaker 1: I looked at them, and it looks like it looks

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Speaker 1: like it. But at the same time, like if you

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Speaker 1: don't you're not up on the news and don't really

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Speaker 1: understand what's happening, you know, it's a it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously it's a problem for privacy, Like I just

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Speaker 1: don't really want people recording me when I don't know it.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the problem because like we're definitely living in

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Speaker 2: this state, like a surveillance state, where just like we

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Speaker 2: have to assume we're being recorded anywhere we are at

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Speaker 2: any time, which is already distressing. But like think about

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Speaker 2: just going up to somebody and like having a conversation

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Speaker 2: that's private and then the whole thing is recorded, or

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Speaker 2: like what we're gonna get into next. Basically is that

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Speaker 2: like you don't realize it's recording necessarily, and you're doing

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Speaker 2: something private like getting undressed or going to the bathroom

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Speaker 2: or having sex with somebody, and then somebody in a

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Speaker 2: different country is reviewing all of the data.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think. I think that the biggest problem

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Speaker 1: with that news report is that it's not recording. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you realize it's recording. No, it's

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Speaker 1: not that you don't realize it's recording. It's it's like

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Speaker 1: it you don't have the button pushed and it's still

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Speaker 1: recording anyway. Yeah, Like it's not like you have the

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Speaker 1: recording button on by accident.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what I'm saying. Like it is, it is recording,

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Speaker 2: but you're not aware that it is doing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And that's like it feels like my kids being

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Speaker 1: you know, the kids have the iPads and they're on

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Speaker 1: their phone with the friends, and like you don't know

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Speaker 1: that you're walking around the house, like going to the

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Speaker 1: bathroom in the middle of the night or something like

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Speaker 1: you have your underwear on, Like you don't know that

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Speaker 1: the kids are like not that they would be on

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Speaker 1: the phone in the middle of the night. But there's

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Speaker 1: been times where you're like going to the bathroom or

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Speaker 1: something and you're like, oh, you're on the phone right now,

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Speaker 1: even you're listening to.

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Speaker 2: Me, like you're even regardless, Like we'll just be talking

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Speaker 2: shit about somebody and they're like sitting right there on

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Speaker 2: FaceTime with their friend and are just not talking to

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Speaker 2: each other, and I'm like, cool, your friends hearing our conversation, Like.

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Speaker 1: No, it's it. I just don't I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: And obviously, like I guess that's just the way that

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Speaker 1: we need to be right now, is just to be

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Speaker 1: like a little bit more careful about like even in

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Speaker 1: your own house, especially when you have kids and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, like these particular glasses, so I guess

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Speaker 1: they were having like tech people review them just to

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Speaker 1: make sure that they're working and the technology is working

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Speaker 1: and they're fit, finding new safety procedures and stuff. But

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Speaker 1: all of these tech workers from like remote locations in

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Speaker 1: other countries are basically able to monitor everything that you're

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Speaker 1: doing while you're wearing these glasses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it says there's a built in AI assistant automatically

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Speaker 2: processing data from the glasses, including speech, text, images and

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Speaker 2: at times video footage, which is then sent to a

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Speaker 2: third party data company and Kenya and the function cannot

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Speaker 2: be turned off. They said that sometimes the glasses have

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00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: recorded sensitive personal information such as bank cards or people

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Speaker 2: watching pornography. So it's like, not even just personal or

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00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: intimate moments in your life, but also possibly sensitive information

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Speaker 2: like your social Security number, your bank account, whatever. I

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Speaker 2: don't understand the appeal of having these at all.

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Speaker 1: Well. And one thing that I learned about the potential

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Speaker 1: possibilities with these glasses, and I think we talked about

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Speaker 1: her on the show within the past year, is that

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Speaker 1: they show like a guy wearing them and going up

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Speaker 1: to a girl on the street and then having facial

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Speaker 1: recognition and being able to pull up her Facebook account

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Speaker 1: to figure out who it is. Like, I don't like

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00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: that shit. It is so like I could get stalked

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Speaker 1: by somebody that sets me on the street.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that. I love that it says this too.

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Speaker 2: The tech firm does warn users that in some cases,

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Speaker 2: data will be reviewed, and their privacy policy adds quote,

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Speaker 2: do not share information that you don't want the AI

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Speaker 2: to use and retain, such as information about sensitive topics.

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Speaker 1: You're wearing glasses.

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Speaker 2: This is effectively working as your eyesight, so anything you

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Speaker 2: look at is going to be recorded. So like, in

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Speaker 2: which situation are you supposed to wear them?

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Speaker 1: The eyeglasses what?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're ray bands, so I'm sure they're freaking expensive.

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Speaker 1: The regular ray bands are pretty expensive. I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: how much these ones are. I just like, when you

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Speaker 1: think about the phone, one could argue that that's also

554
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: been like the top ten terrible things that have been

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00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: bad for society, right, But when you think about it,

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00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, well, the good is is that like

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00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: people are able to even with the phone recording, You're like,

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Speaker 1: how many times do you see people record crimes that

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Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, this actually was helpful in this investigation.

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Speaker 1: Or you're an emergency and you're able to call, like

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Speaker 1: there's positives to the phone, Like I don't see any

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Speaker 1: positives to this. I just don't like, why would it

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Speaker 1: be necessary for you to do any of these functions?

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Speaker 2: Isn't this what like Edward Snowden was warning us about

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Speaker 2: that the government was like allegedly accessing people's private information

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Speaker 2: or like going through their webcams or their phones to

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Speaker 2: like spy on people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't even understand how they can't

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Speaker 1: get in trouble for it. I don't understand it well

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Speaker 1: because legally, because the loops all closed in their privacy policy. See,

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Speaker 1: I feel like, if you just go to the mall

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Speaker 1: and go to Lendscrafters to buy these and you don't

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Speaker 1: read these articles and stuff, do you think that anybody

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Speaker 1: like has you sign a contract or talk to you

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Speaker 1: and say like, hey, just to let you know these

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Speaker 1: things are working as your eyeballs and you're essentially like

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Speaker 1: letting them into your brain of what you do every

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Speaker 1: single day? Are you aware of that? Okay, cool sign

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Speaker 1: here that does not happen.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't happen, and it should happen. Like, they need

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Speaker 2: to enforce some regulations about what the consumer knows because like,

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00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: who reads the fine print? Seriously think about this, especially

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Speaker 2: in this state we're living in where nobody has any

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Speaker 2: patience or attention span whatsoever. Who's going through with a

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Speaker 2: fine tooth comb the privacy policy, but legally it covers

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Speaker 2: their ass because they said it. So think twice before

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Speaker 2: buying these, because somebody elsewhere in the world is watching everything.

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Speaker 2: You're doing from taking a poop to accessing your bank accounts.

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