WEBVTT - Midseason grades for the Cubs during this up-and-down year

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into Northside Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Saha Dave Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are

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<v Speaker 1>your Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic. Patrick is

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<v Speaker 1>not quite the middle of the season, but we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to hand out some grades for this team as

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<v Speaker 1>they continue to muddle through. I guess how many games

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<v Speaker 1>are we in it? Do I have the record rate? Forty?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it forty? No? Wait, like I'm off on my

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<v Speaker 1>it is it's forty and thirty seven, So we're seventy

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<v Speaker 1>seven games in, so we're close. We're close to that midpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone can agree that after the way the

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<v Speaker 1>season started, three games over five hundred is not not

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<v Speaker 1>where people were hoping for at this point. It's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>reading fans reactions right now. They're acting like this team

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<v Speaker 1>is ten fifteen games under five hundred. But I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>When you struggle like they have the past month plus,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to feel positive. But it just I think

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<v Speaker 1>we have to look at this season as a whole

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<v Speaker 1>so far, which is, you know, we're middle nearing the

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<v Speaker 1>end of June and they're in a playoff spot, which

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<v Speaker 1>is really weird to say because the vibes around it

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<v Speaker 1>does not did not feel that way. But let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with I guess we could do this first segment, the

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff and the front office. I think it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me to, like, I think council, I mean, think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, if we would have done this at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of you know, at the end of April, at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of May, it's an A plus, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>what a great job great council has done. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's done anything like super wrong since then this,

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<v Speaker 1>But but it's hard to give him like an A

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<v Speaker 1>when when the season is just kind of average. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, it's it's just average. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a C for me, for him and the coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 1>I I again, I just don't think, like nothing stands outwards,

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<v Speaker 1>like why is he doing this? Why is he calling

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<v Speaker 1>upon this guy in the bullpen, Like when you have

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<v Speaker 1>this many injuries, when you have this many guys being ineffective,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's a certain way you have to like you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be wrong. Sometimes I just don't, like nothing

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<v Speaker 1>is glaring to me. But I think fans will disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with that that they'll they'll Nippick on something, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just been an average season for this coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going to tie him together the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like Craig Council's group in Jed Hoyer's group, just because

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<v Speaker 2>there is a lot of collaboration there and that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's Tommy hot Devey sort of being an extent

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<v Speaker 2>of the office or Craig Council.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting involved in R and D in the off season.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Tyler Zombro in this role where he's in

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<v Speaker 2>uniform and out of uniform, uh, you know during the

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<v Speaker 2>off season meetings. Yeah, I'm with you, Like, certainly not

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<v Speaker 2>an A, definitely not an F. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go B minus, C plus like I could

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<v Speaker 2>C minus, like you can probably talk me into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like that's been kind of the work product thus far.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe once they get past the halfway point in

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<v Speaker 2>leaving New York, you maybe they have a nice we're

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<v Speaker 2>recording before Tuesday's game after two consecutive rainouts. That also

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<v Speaker 2>colors this a bit as well. There has been a

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<v Speaker 2>new result to move onto. But the Cubs their next

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<v Speaker 2>stop will be Milwaukee, and I think Milwaukee makes all

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<v Speaker 2>of this look worse, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 2>the we are grading on a curve here when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the state of the National League, like there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of really average teams, and there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>parody that I think we both expect them to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the race until mid to late September, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it's just kind of like, can they come through in

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<v Speaker 2>the you know that last week or so, can they

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<v Speaker 2>avoid the collapse we saw in twenty twenty three, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a nice finishing kick after the trade headline.

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<v Speaker 2>We have no idea and yeah, maybe this is incomplete

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<v Speaker 2>for the front office in that sense, like they still

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of work to do. I think overall,

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the coaching stat and council get credit

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<v Speaker 2>for Peka Armstrong's development, for how the pitching, they've weathered

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<v Speaker 2>it fairly well considering the sheer vib of injuries. But

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<v Speaker 2>then again, like we'll never know this, but could they

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<v Speaker 2>have done more on the front end to prevent this

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<v Speaker 2>some of it, you know, the personnel they acquired, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you should maybe expect injuries with some of these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think as we talk through some of these

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<v Speaker 2>additions in the upcoming segments here. I think back to

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<v Speaker 2>the story you wrote somewhat recently of just like this

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<v Speaker 2>was a ninety two win team, pretty methodically built, pretty

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<v Speaker 2>fairly well rounded roster. You're trading swapping out Kyle Tucker

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<v Speaker 2>for Alex Bragman, and like all of these moves were reasonable.

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<v Speaker 2>There was not a whole lot of like what are

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<v Speaker 2>they thinking here? And so that I think that compounds

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<v Speaker 2>it too of just like you see how well the

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<v Speaker 2>Brewers are doing, that doesn't make the Cubs look great

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<v Speaker 2>and also just kind of confusing. I think that's why

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard for me to just you know, put a

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<v Speaker 2>big red F on it, because right we understood where

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<v Speaker 2>they're coming from with a lot of stuff, and as

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<v Speaker 2>we deal with Craig Councilor's coaches, like they're like reasonable people,

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<v Speaker 2>that they're good communicators.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we can kind of see where they're coming.

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<v Speaker 2>From on a lot of this, and they will point to, look,

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<v Speaker 2>everything's incomplete because we still have a half season to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, if I'm grading them just on these first two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half three months then to the front office

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<v Speaker 1>that is, then I think I would not give them

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<v Speaker 1>a past. I would not give them a c like

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have to give them below and like, look, that's

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<v Speaker 1>totally second guessing because I think we were on board

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<v Speaker 1>with this offseason. We thought it was a smart offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they did a lot of good h Nothing's

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<v Speaker 1>really worked out as hoped so far. Alex Bregman is

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<v Speaker 1>not performing up to expectations. Edward Cabrera is not a

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<v Speaker 1>standout starter for this team. Phil Mayton has really struggled.

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Harvey has barely pitched. Jacob Webb has been good

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<v Speaker 1>but has struggled of late. And the bullpen is a

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<v Speaker 1>concern for me. The rotation is a concern. The moves

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<v Speaker 1>just haven't really worked out the bullpen, Like this is

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<v Speaker 1>just how bullpens are. And I know, I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna answer some questions via mail bag and people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, how could they have built this type of bullpen?

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it said they needed to bring like

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<v Speaker 1>they need to bring in some certainty. Yeah, Okay. They

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<v Speaker 1>should have signed Edwin Diaz, who has pitched four innings

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<v Speaker 1>and had like a ten ERA. Maybe they should have

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<v Speaker 1>signed Devin Williams who has an ERA pushing five. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they should have signed Pete Fairbanks, who has an era

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<v Speaker 1>pushing like ten Re signed Brad Keller, who's Era's double

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<v Speaker 1>last season, Like, I don't know, there's no such thing

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<v Speaker 1>as certainty in the bullpen. I know fans get so

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<v Speaker 1>annoyed by hearing that, and like they think it's an excuse,

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<v Speaker 1>But it is so hard to build a bullpen year

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<v Speaker 1>after year. You need guys to step up that you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like. Nobody has stepped up that they that they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of needed to, like Colin Snyder, Corbyn Martin Riley

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<v Speaker 1>Martin got hurt. So it's you know, this is excuse making,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say, but it's also the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of building a bullpen. You just don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get. You could feel so confident about what

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<v Speaker 1>you've put together and it can just turn out to

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<v Speaker 1>be a mess, or you can have like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I don't know it's going to look and

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<v Speaker 1>then it dominates. Last year was really good. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>last year was a good bullpen. They have figured it

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<v Speaker 1>out on the fly, so I would not be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>if the bullpen does get figured out. They've they're really

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<v Speaker 1>throwing things against the wall with this bullpen right now

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<v Speaker 1>that we've talked about it a couple episodes ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe like they're just cycling through forty man roster spots,

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<v Speaker 1>so that I think is something that can be fixed

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of a season. See it all the

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<v Speaker 1>time with different teams. Go back to that World Series

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<v Speaker 1>run that the Diamondbacks went on. I believe what was that,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, twenty four, Yeah, twenty three, and they had

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<v Speaker 1>a rough bullpen the first few months. They made a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of trades, picked up some guys that had struggled

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half and were nails for them in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half. And that's that's kind of how it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be the most random thing in sports. So

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes there's just no rhyme or reason to it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick break then and break down some

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<v Speaker 1>position players and give them grades.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So I think if we were grading the

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<v Speaker 1>offense again six weeks ago, we'd be talking about like

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<v Speaker 1>a plus, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, best offense. Ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and obviously six weeks has changed the Uh. This

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the more confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I don't know. Again, It's like the volatility

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<v Speaker 1>of bullpens, the randomness of hitting with runners in scoring

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<v Speaker 1>position is like these got these have to be the

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<v Speaker 1>two most frustrating things to watch when things aren't going

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<v Speaker 1>right and and kind of accept that, man, baseball can

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<v Speaker 1>be a random sport sometimes, and yes it is this

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<v Speaker 1>like the hitting with runners in scoring position, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the Cubs numbers when like overall versus that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's and it's really weird, and it's a stark

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<v Speaker 1>difference and it makes you question of like, what what

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<v Speaker 1>are they doing wrong? When I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>baseball people feel like, no, this stuff will even out again.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of those things that fans don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear. So I get the frustration, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is important to analyze it, be on that and

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<v Speaker 1>wonder what else is going on. But I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a simple answer to that. But that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest issue with this team. If they had, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ten more hits with runners in scoring position, that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>like five more wits. That's really like what a big

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<v Speaker 1>swing it would be. Because I was just looking this

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<v Speaker 1>up after they have the most played appearances with runners

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<v Speaker 1>in scoring position and they have I believe the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighth in batting average. And again, like I think people

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<v Speaker 1>who know me know that I don't think batting average

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<v Speaker 1>is the most important step, but it's important with runners

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<v Speaker 1>in scoring position, you want to get base hits because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes a walk with a man on second and one

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<v Speaker 1>out just doesn't do the job. But you know, a groundball,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing eye, single change, it can change a game. So that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there is one reason why you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know you're losing your mind you're talking of batting average here,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is what comes I'm done to your brain. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this is your brain on Cubs baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And so overall it's the offense gets another you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mediocre see here for me. But I think I still

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<v Speaker 1>feel that by the end of the season we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>looking back and saying that's a B season, maybe an

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<v Speaker 1>A season for the offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's just like disappointing that this group

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<v Speaker 2>as a whole hasn't stepped forward, and like how quickly

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<v Speaker 2>it went from like, you know, World Series contender to

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<v Speaker 2>like are these guys too uptight? Do they have the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong mix of personalities in the room, And like is there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, is there something wrong with like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>this hitting group as a whole because this is what

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Jed Hoyer's front off that says, really stake

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<v Speaker 2>this team on. This is what they've built around. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they have been proven right.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, bullpens are volatile.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you don't want to put good money, big money

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<v Speaker 2>behind those players. We'll just fine. You just have to

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<v Speaker 2>be right in the other areas. And the Cubs historically

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<v Speaker 2>don't pay for number one starters. They have in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, I mean you Darvish John Lester, but

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<v Speaker 2>like recently, you know, they they saw where the Dylan

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<v Speaker 2>c s market was going and they were informed and

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<v Speaker 2>we're like, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, he got paid in Toronto and so

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<v Speaker 2>sort of getting these getting a lot of sort of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, number three type starters on on good days

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, and also not developing pitching from within

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<v Speaker 2>that much means your your hitters, your everyday guys have

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<v Speaker 2>to carry you, and you know, kind of looking at

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Baseball reference sheet.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, I think I mean Peter Armstrong, I think

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<v Speaker 3>he gets an A.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he doesn't get an A plus just because

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<v Speaker 2>of what happened on the South Side and some of

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<v Speaker 2>his glaring defensive mistakes. I know he's still an awesome defender,

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<v Speaker 2>has put up some amazing offensive numbers recently, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a solid A not quite an A plus.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Ian.

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<v Speaker 2>Hap, as frustrating as he can be for fans, is

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<v Speaker 2>putting together an All Star caliber first half. We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>if he actually gets in the game. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>he's streaky as well, so we don't know where he'll

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<v Speaker 2>wind up between now and the All Star break, but

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the year, you know you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have a pretty solid season out of him. So I

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<v Speaker 2>put him in that kind of a minus B plus range,

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<v Speaker 2>And then say, is one a name I sort of

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<v Speaker 2>circled of, Like his numbers are good, he's a much

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<v Speaker 2>better defender, but just when the Cubs go through these tailspins,

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<v Speaker 2>like Saya usually seems to be kind of at the

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<v Speaker 2>forefront of that, and just you would like to see

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<v Speaker 2>a little more consistency or quicker ability to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pull the team out of the nosedive. And that's one

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<v Speaker 2>of those just because we hear how players talk about him,

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<v Speaker 2>we know how talented he is, we know how hard

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<v Speaker 2>he works, how much he cares, and like that's just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of been who he is during his time in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>and now that that may change. He might have been

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<v Speaker 2>their most dangerous hitter during last year's playoffs, and like

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Rule that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a monster stretch in the second half, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of carries the team. But he has been

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<v Speaker 2>kind of that guy like when everything's clicking, you know

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<v Speaker 2>around him, say is clicking. There's been fewer times where

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you look to him to sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>have that huge hit that changes everything.

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<v Speaker 3>You just would like a little more there.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I put him in that similar sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like B plus range.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you look at the middle infield and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously third base Bregman, Swanson, Nico. I mean Nico was

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<v Speaker 1>a plus you know at then a couple of weeks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we thought he was a different player. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he goes through these stretches. Though I think

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people when they're in it, when he's in it,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, what's wrong with Nico's He relies on the

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<v Speaker 1>ball finding holes. Sometimes he's not hitting the ball as hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he I'd say the bad luck has

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<v Speaker 1>mostly been like the last week ish, He's looked a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better in the plate and he can't like

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<v Speaker 1>he can't buy a hit now. So it went from

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<v Speaker 1>there were a few weeks there where I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is soft contact on the ground and that's why,

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<v Speaker 1>like you need a ton of luck for that. But

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<v Speaker 1>now he's starting to hit more line drives, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that last home stand, there were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of balls that he hit well that were just like

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<v Speaker 1>good defensive plays or right ed guys, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>type of stuff that you hope Nico's pretty good about

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<v Speaker 1>compartmentalizing and understanding, like that's how you know he relies

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<v Speaker 1>on the ball in play finding grass. Even Bregman looks

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better, and I feel like the luck

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't swung his way fully yet, but he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>put the ball out of the park. He needs to

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<v Speaker 1>hit the ball out of the park. And Dansby has

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<v Speaker 1>been a mess, and I do feel like there have

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<v Speaker 1>been glimpses, but it's such a short window. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>three games now that we've seen some hard hit balls.

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<v Speaker 1>You need a much longer stretch to feel like he's

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of it. Because this has been I know

0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.240
<v Speaker 1>he and Craig Council talks about this. He goes through

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<v Speaker 1>these big swings where it's where it's like, oh, he

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<v Speaker 1>looks lost. Is he on the downswing of his career?

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<v Speaker 1>And then he gets on this huge stretch. But he was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, five days ago or whatever, he was hitting

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<v Speaker 1>one seventy five. He was tied for the lowest batting

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<v Speaker 1>average in baseball. Patrick, you know who he was tied with.

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<v Speaker 1>He was tied with Manny Machado. Yeah, Manny Machado is

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<v Speaker 1>having a really weird season where he's hitting for a

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<v Speaker 1>really low average, but I think he leads the Padres

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<v Speaker 1>and home runs very odd. I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into Padre's discussion, but yeah, so Dansby needs to get

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<v Speaker 1>on a hot streak, like all these guys need to.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you look at how well Pete's doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you just want a couple more guys to get hot. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have Pete swinging like he's swinging, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have two other guys, especially if they're kind of bunched

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:10.200
<v Speaker 1>together in the lineup, that just makes all the you know,

0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.760
<v Speaker 1>like that just makes all the hitting, with the scoring position,

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<v Speaker 1>all those things feel a little bit less worrisome. You

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<v Speaker 1>just have a few guys clicking get to the five

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<v Speaker 1>six run mark, and they did that for the last

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<v Speaker 1>three games, but the bullpen blew one of those games

0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:30.800
<v Speaker 1>for them. But just the slightest bit of hope I

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<v Speaker 1>see from this offense right now, it was three games.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to do much better, need to put together, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stack some series here. But I'm seeing a little glimmer

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<v Speaker 1>of hope from the offense I am. I just don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I think when it lasts this long, the struggles,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to it needs to be stacked before you

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<v Speaker 1>buy back in. And that's how I'm feeling that I've

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<v Speaker 1>trusted this offense. I believe that this offense is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I need like I get it, like it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have these slumps, it really makes you question

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<v Speaker 1>everything about a group.

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<v Speaker 2>When a corner Baseball reference, Nico is a one more

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<v Speaker 2>player dansby one point five, Bregman had two. Uh So, clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>like these guys haven't totally cratered. Like that's why the

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Cubs invested in them, because they have a pretty high

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<v Speaker 2>floor and they're sort of I think scraping it now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, all these guys, you know, get

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<v Speaker 2>marked down just because of how much the Cups you

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<v Speaker 2>have believed in them and bet on them, and how

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<v Speaker 2>much we've heard about their leadership abilities. When you see

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<v Speaker 2>the Cubs in a skid that goes on like to

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<v Speaker 2>this extent, you sort of questioned some of that. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Bregman, you'll flat out said I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Been terrible or whatever the quote was.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been basically like league average as a hitter. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're you're right to out some of these other

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<v Speaker 2>like star third basemen. You know how a lot of

0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:07.200
<v Speaker 2>guys have struggled to get it going, but like this

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<v Speaker 2>is why the Cubs signed him as this finishing piece.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird because like Bregman doesn't seem totally lost up there,

0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 2>like he is getting on bas like he's taking walks,

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:24.119
<v Speaker 2>he's getting singles, but obviously the big hits, the slug

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<v Speaker 2>just haven't been there. Dansby weirdly started off with that

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<v Speaker 2>power search that made you think, oh, maybe something's clicked

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<v Speaker 2>and oh this is kind of Eco's game. Like you're saying, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not like super concerned, but it's also this is

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<v Speaker 2>what the Cubs have said looking back on prior seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>like do you get that like six win season from

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<v Speaker 2>Nico or do you get like a three win season

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<v Speaker 2>from Nico? And Dansby's kind of in that too, of

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<v Speaker 2>like Dansby can be a six four player, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be like a three based almost allly solely on defense.

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<v Speaker 3>That all group, I don't know, C plus to D plus.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>However, you know, if they have a good game tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's a C plus. It's like just certainly not

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<v Speaker 2>havevid D plus seems a little a little harsh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>given that they're not like negative contributors, but just the

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<v Speaker 2>whole group is just like wanting more other than the

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<v Speaker 2>infield we haven't talked about. And this is probably the

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<v Speaker 2>way Michael Bush likes it. Slow start but very solid year.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not getting paid like those others guys. Guys are either,

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<v Speaker 2>so like just tremendous value, you know, probably a B

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<v Speaker 2>plus and quietly becoming, you know, one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>first baseman's in the majors.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, right, And it gets back to what

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying before about runners in scoring position. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of those guys we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>are just having weird seasons and Eco, who people think

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<v Speaker 1>of as like this clutch guy, no really rough season

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<v Speaker 1>with runners in scoring positions, say is having a rough one.

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<v Speaker 1>Bregman I think is a big Like Hap is struggling,

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<v Speaker 1>I think in those situations, but Bregman's the big one

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like it's all like that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those ones where it's like just like find a hole once,

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Like he has not come through in those situations much

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<v Speaker 1>at all, and it feels like they're a lot like

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<v Speaker 1>they're stacking up as far as played appearances or runners

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that have been stranded, both him and Half. You want

0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 1>to see them come through and just just get a

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>couple hits in those moments, in those moments, because the

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Cubs do, you provide a lot of those moments. So

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<v Speaker 1>just a few more big hits, and it's the type

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<v Speaker 1>of thing that can help swing swing a game and

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<v Speaker 1>swing a season. Really, let's take a break and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the pitching when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>So with the pitching, Patrick, I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 1>can give this group a passing grade. They've given up

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<v Speaker 1>the most home runs in baseball if you want to

0:25:56.760 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>give them a pass in the sense that the injuries

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 1>have have are the reason that it's as bad as

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 1>bad as it is. I understand that, but they like

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>they they have been waylaid by injuries, and to suggest

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't prepare for it, I think would be

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>unfair because they had a lot of depth entering the

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>season and they have and it has hit them hard

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<v Speaker 1>the number of injuries to both the rotation and the bullpen.

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 1>But that's that's part of the game, and other teams

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>suffer a lot of injuries too. Everyone reacts differently. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I would say the Cubs haven't like you

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<v Speaker 1>could almost I think you said this in the first segment.

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<v Speaker 1>You could almost make the argument that they they should

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>be worse because of all the injuries, Like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a surprise that they that they have

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 1>they're doing as well as they are, that they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>completely sunk, like kind of like the Mets. But still

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I can't say, like, oh, give them a pass on

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>this because they're just not doing well enough. And I

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>think the bullpen in particular is where, you know, going

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.880
<v Speaker 1>against what I said, It's going to go all over

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the place, but it is what it is. The results

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<v Speaker 1>are how I'm going to grade it on, and it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been good enough. Well, I say the bullpen in particular,

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what I'm concerned about right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers say the rotation is significantly worse. Rotation ERA

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<v Speaker 1>is bottom five in Baseball home runs allowed, or largely

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<v Speaker 1>like I think that it's the rotation that's given up

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>the most. Bullpen is starting to add to that total.

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<v Speaker 2>Though.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been some really big home runs lately from

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the bullpen, both in terms of costing them a game

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday, and then there was one recently where they

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have had to go to their high leverage guys

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and guys couldn't get the job done middle eting guys

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.479
<v Speaker 1>and it made it too close, and they had suddenly

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.199
<v Speaker 1>a game on their hands and they had to bring

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 1>in guys that they probably that council probably wanted to avoid. Uh.

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 1>And that that adds up that that that that's a

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 1>problem when you have guys that can't you know, that

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>are walking guys or giving up long balls in the

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>blowout game, and suddenly now you have to use your

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>high leverage guys and those guys are becoming limited. Valencia

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>is on the I L. Hunter. Harvey's barely pitched. You know,

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>we've named all the names. There's there's a lot of

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>guys that just aren't effective or or are on the

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>shelf on both sides, both bullpen and rotation. It's a

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a tough group right now. Uh some quick updates.

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Boyd will be pitching with the team, the big

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>League club. His next start, Edward Cabrera starts tonight. This

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>is we're recording on what days today, Tuesday, And then

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<v Speaker 1>jameson Tywne, I guess council said maybe before they're like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe BEFO for the All Star break. This was just

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>like he just kind of threw that in there yesterday

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>when we talked to him before the game got called.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so that that's like the op I guess that

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>would be the optimistic hope with Tyn that why does

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff matter? Like if you're not in love

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>with the season jameson Tyne's having, which I understand he's

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>given up way too many home runs, all that stuff,

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>like it'll it'll beef up the bullpen at minimum, Like

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that's like you need some depth in the bullpen, you

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>need innings like right now that you need to make

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>sure you get through the season because eventually we'll start

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about trade deadline and stuff like that and coming

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>upcoming episodes. But that's where that's where this focus is

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>going to be over the next what do we got

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>six weeks before the deadline. That's where the focus is. Pitching, pitching, pitching.

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I understand fans are frustrated and don't think this team

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>is good enough. They're in the playoffs right now. You

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>have to add, and you never know when you get hot.

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>So if this offense turns around, you can you can

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>build its wronger bullpen and suddenly you feel really good

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>about the way things look in the second half.

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, just to underline, you know how impossible

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 2>this situation has felt at times like you're probably given,

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, incomplete grades to Matthew Boyd. He's thrown twenty

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 2>four innings this year, Kate Horton's thrown seven and the

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 2>third innings this year justin seal zero innings thus far.

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Palencia three save opportunities, amazing, just kind of unbelievable.

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 2>You had mentioned Hunter Harvey. Four appearances like these are

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of bets the Cubs made, you know

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 2>how this team was going to flourish this year, and

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 2>there's just been way too many incomplete Edward Cabrera, you know,

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 2>a negative war contributor thus far. I mean, just a

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 2>really big disappointment. I know some of this is out

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 2>of his control. He's had you know, some minor injuries

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 2>here and there, but just and we've seen flashes of

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 2>the stuff, but has not.

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Put it together the way the Cubs hoped for. I

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 3>would say you got to give.

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 2>An a probably to Ben Brown, although that his emergence

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>has you know, weakened the bullpen. All this stuff we're

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 2>talking about here is interconnected, like why is the bullpen bad?

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, a bunch of relievers had to go

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 2>into the rotation. Ryan Robson would be an exception to

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of the bullpen thing we were talking about at.

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<v Speaker 3>The top of the show there about just how the

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 3>bullpen's kind of mess. He's been a very pleasant surprise.

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I think SHOWEDA and Colin Ray have

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 2>been in that like B B minus range. I know,

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>like raised numbers, don't know, aren't always like outstanding, but

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>he's always put in a difficult spot and he just

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 2>bounces back and does his job quietly, without complaint, without

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 2>any sort of fanfare.

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 3>I think you like have not that on your team

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 3>and you know, showed it.

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 2>We've seen some stretches where he looks like an ace,

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 2>but you know, he's He's had some really ugly outings.

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that's just kind of the show to experience,

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm probably more optimistic than most, but I think

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 2>over his next fifteen starts, I think you're going to

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>see some some quality. And to be honest, it's not

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 2>like the Cubs have many other options, and I think

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 2>that's you know, kind of tying it back to how

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 2>this episode started. Like just the lack of kind of

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 2>homegrown pitching and just kind of young pitching to be able.

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 3>To plug in as needed just hasn't quite been there.

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Again, they don't throw parades for you know, Baseball America

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 2>rankings or anything like that, but you see when the

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 2>team is stretched to this extent and the amount of

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 2>just sort of like DFA churning, you know, random casts off,

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 2>they're you know putting in like don't look at Triple

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 2>A Iowa's kind of pitching logs. At least that's what

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>we were told not that long ago. Like all that

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 2>stuff adds up, but they still have another another half

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>of the year to you know, prove us wrong, and

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, and they still I think this is something

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>too too. You mentioned this before we started recording. Avoiding

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 2>a Mets like scenario at the beginning of the year

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 2>is very valuable to just kind of weather the storm,

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 2>to just kind of keep pushing forward. There's a lot

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>of value in that, and maybe the Cubs will will

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of capture that over the coming months.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm very curious to see what they do with

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the rotation when Boyd comes back in and for nothing

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>else other than who do they think is the right

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Like I think one of those guys between Ray and

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Assad needs to go to the bullpen not be sent down,

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>because the bullpen needs someone that can like do multiple innings.

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>And Ray's what a weird season. I just looked at

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>his numbers. I saw something that said he was like

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>bottom five in ERA for eligible pictures and I was like,

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 1>what I thought, He's been okay, but he's had enough

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>blow up outings and really like there's this stretch before

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.360
<v Speaker 1>the Dodger or the Blue Jays game, basically starting with

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>a Dodgers start, so a while ago, where's ERA was

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>above six, Like he has just been bad to to

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>like okay for the past couple of months. I did not.

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 1>It didn't feel like that, And I think because they

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>were so desperate for just like competent three run, five

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>inning outings that it felt like that's a huge win

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>when it's actually not that good of an era. But

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>like it was like there have been some blow ups, absolutely,

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>but I think you know you're gonna get that with

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Colin Ray. It happened last year where it's a certain

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>point people were like they have to get him out

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>of the rotation. Then he went on a run where

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>he gave you like five six innings every start and

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>get like no more than two three runs. And I

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>think that's what you can kind of expect from him.

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>It's not going to be perfect. He's a depth starter,

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 1>and give expecting twenty five plus brilliant starts from him

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>is just unfair. Curious to see how they how they

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>fill out the bullpen. Two quick notes on bullpen arms.

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>They've they've added a ton of guys. I've been asking around,

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>anyone look good, anyone look interesting? And two guys are

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>in I think they're both in Arizona. Bummer has ticked

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 1>up at least one mile per hour, maybe two. I

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>need to check my text to double check that, and

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>then uh, Eduard Nielle Nunez who was in the CUB

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 1>system years ago and made it to the majors with Pitts,

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I'd have to look that up. He's been with a

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>couple of different oors. Yeah, he's been with a couple

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of different orgs since he's he was at like ninety

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>six early in the season, so down for him when

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 1>he's at his best. He's back up to ninety nine.

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Whatever was going on, they've they've helped him get back

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to there. I'm not saying like, hey, look for these

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 1>guys to help the bullpen immediately and be really good.

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I just think like you need to start looking at

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>arms that are like they they've cycled through so many guys,

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>not at the big league level, but like in the minors,

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>like adding guys to the forty man cycling through. Someone

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>needs to pop. They need someone to pop. Maybe it's

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:49.839
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys, veteran Lanke Bummer. We'll see if

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>someone can help. Because you're not going to make it

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>through the season with is these guys. You know that,

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Like council tells us that every spring training, right, it's

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>not going to be this group of eight then higher season.

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>If it is like that, that's kind of weird, like

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 1>it evolves, so you hope it evolves in a good

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>way for the Cubs. That's like that they find someone

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and some of them are going to be surprises. Everyone's

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>going to say, well, no, we want the obvious superstar.

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work that way with the Bullpens. So well,

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.479
<v Speaker 1>we'll see if anyone steps up, if there's a maybe

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>not quite a Brad Keller, but some better, better times

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>ahead and some surprises that can kind of turn things

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>for this group. All right, that's it from us, Thanks

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.279
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0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:43.160
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<v Speaker 2>I read it.

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<v Speaker 1>They