1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in stej Envy Jess hilarious. Shall 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: I mean the guy? We are the Breakfast Club. You 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: got a special guest in the buildings ind God Tribute. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: Welcome brother, thanksving me. 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: What's up y'all? Y'all? 7 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Congratulations he just won a Grammy twenty twenty four Grammy 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: for Gospel Album. 9 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: So congratulations. 10 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, three in total. Man, I'm so hype about that 11 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: and excited. You know, Uh, it wasn't needed, but it's 12 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: it's appreciated. 13 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 4: Do you pray for stuff like that? 14 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Nah? I used to? 15 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I used to, but I had to get 16 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: my you know, uh, the reason why I do what 17 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: I do. 18 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: I had to get that in order. 19 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: I had to you know, yeah, intention exactly. Last year 20 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: I was nominated for two Grammys, and I just knew 21 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: I was. 22 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: Gonna walk away with at least one. 23 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 3: And when I walked away with none, it was like 24 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 3: a soul check for me, Like, all right, well, why 25 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: do you do what you do? 26 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: Bro? You gotta just just kind of re evaluate all 27 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: of that stuff. 28 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: So I kind of like stopped needing it or stopped 29 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: wanting it so bad and stopped so ambitially going for it. 30 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: Just stick to it. 31 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: The reason why I do what I do, have fun 32 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: doing it. Bless the people, show love, give him Christ, 33 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: and uh this year when I walked away with it, Yo, 34 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: we literally sat like in the back. Because the Gospels, 35 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: they don't present the gospel on the on the Grammy 36 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: we got the pre award. 37 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: They could do it. I was like nine o'clock in 38 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: the morning, you know what I'm saying. I had to 39 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: wake up on early. 40 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: And we went to the pre show and it's open 41 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: seating there, so you can see anywhere you want. 42 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: So my manager like, YO, come on, let's let's go 43 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: to the front. Bro. I'm like, noah, man, I'm gonna 44 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: sit back here. 45 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: We're gonna take a l I don't like that long 46 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: walk of shame. 47 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: It's too far, so let's just stay close to the exit. 48 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: So we was in the back, chill, and I got 49 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: it all on video and they called on everybody's name. 50 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Of course when they call my name, I was like, 51 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: because I was really content. 52 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: I had to learn really just to be content, because 53 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: you know, being overly ambitious is robs you of gratitude. 54 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: Then you just get on and feel like going down 55 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: that rabbit hole so. 56 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: Loved to make you have to take that long walk 57 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: up to the stage. 58 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: Had to take that. 59 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 3: I was running like, oh my goodness, trying to figure 60 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: out what I'm gonna say on the way because I 61 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: literally didn't respect to win, but you know I was 62 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: gonna beat it. Had to show them how to be 63 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: a good, sore loser in Christ. 64 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 5: But I'm just proud of you every time you nominated. 65 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 5: Thirteen nomination is that crazy? 66 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 6: Yeah? 67 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 5: So even without winning the awards, I'm like, you're recognized 68 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 5: like by so many to be nominated thirteen times. 69 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: True true love that after a while you just get 70 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: used to. 71 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: I should start celebrating the nominations, you know what I mean, because. 72 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 6: There's a lot of people that don't make it there 73 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 6: either exactly or. 74 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: You just pile up the els. Thirteen but I lost no. 75 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,559 Speaker 5: Yeah albums, Your work touched a lot of souls. 76 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. 77 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 4: You know. 78 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 6: To me, I love that. 79 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: I love doing what I do and why I do it. 80 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 81 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: People leave my shows, they're not just turned up, but 82 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 3: they got hope, you know what I mean, They got inspiration. 83 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, and healing and all of 84 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: that's taking place. So I love what I do and 85 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: why I do it. 86 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: Man, it's a blessing. 87 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 7: And you're from Camden, Camden, New Jersey, bro and until 88 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 7: you lived there your whole life. 89 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, in Florida, then Houston for a year in Florida. Okay, yeah, 90 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: so growing up in Canon, you know, well, if you 91 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 3: don't know, y'all should know here. 92 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: You know in New York, y'all know about Canada. 93 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 4: To ask God why? 94 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: So many days I have got why? But I had to. 95 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: I had to get it in the trenches. I had 96 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 3: to learn in the gut and how to. I had 97 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: to learn how to be in the valley before you 98 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: be in the mountain. 99 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 100 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: So so I can know what it is to struggle, 101 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: So I can know what it is to be impoverished. 102 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: So I can know what it is. You know what 103 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: I mean to be underprivileged. So when it happened for me, 104 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: I could reach back and say, hey, this is how 105 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: you do it, This is how you come up and 106 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 3: help others. 107 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Man. 108 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 7: I think it takes people like you, because when I 109 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 7: see somebody like you have the success that they have 110 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 7: from Camden. You really don't hear a lot of good 111 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 7: things about cam Yeah, for real, you this. 112 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: Murder capital of the world sometime, or the most violent city. 113 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: I remember those stats growing up, like, Hey, Camd's on 114 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: the map. We in the newspaper for what, oh, most 115 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: violent city, you know what I mean? That's not it's 116 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: in Baltimore. Probably not too different, No shade to Baltimore. 117 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: I love, I love yeah, everybody you know coming up 118 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: coming out of that, you know, I'm glad. 119 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: I had like a little family church. 120 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: We had little fifty member family church that we had 121 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: just kept us ground and kept us focused. And I 122 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: was just like tunnel vision the whole time, and slowly 123 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: but surely I just saw myself not like my surroundings. Now, 124 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: that was a challenge in itself, because you don't know 125 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: you're different until you know you different, and then you 126 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: know you got family to deal with and friends to 127 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: deal with who are like, oh, I don't change on us, 128 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: D da da da. 129 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: But bro, if I don't change. 130 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: I can't help you, you know what I'm saying. So 131 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 3: that was a challenge for me at a very young age. 132 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: Knowing I could now when I was talented, knowing I 133 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: could play, knowing I could do music, and knowing it was. 134 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: What's the word extraordinary? It wasn't just normal. 135 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: So that change was a challenge. But you know, I'm 136 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 3: glad that all things work together for good man. 137 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: I want to ask you, know what I'm saying. With 138 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: being a gospel singer, do you feel like it's a 139 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: lot of pressure on you where it's almost like people 140 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: look at your life differently right, Like it's almost like 141 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: they want you to be perfect. Did you have a 142 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: hard time dealing with that? 143 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: Help with that. 144 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: Before I became a gospel artist. So speaking of growing 145 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: up in this small church, my grandmother was the pastor. First, 146 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: my dad was on the organ. I'm watching him every 147 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: Sunday like, oh my god, this guy is amazing. I 148 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: start playing. Then he became the pastor. So I got 149 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: that pressure as a PK, the perfection, all of that, 150 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: all of that. I got all of that pressures as 151 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: a young kid, like twelve nine when I was. Since 152 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: I was, since I've been born, spotlight has been on 153 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: me to be. 154 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: The poster child for what Christ is. I'm like, yo, 155 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: the worst why pressure though? Because of the damn too 156 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: much hand comes leads the rebellion. Man, you know what 157 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: I mean? 158 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: That legalism and that religious structure. It leads to like, yo, 159 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: I'm not cut out for this. I didn't sign up 160 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: for this. Y'all sign up for this and the expectation 161 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: is too much for me. Yo, So I I just rebel. 162 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 3: People go completely opposite of the ways that their parents 163 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: bring them up when you bring them up too strict. 164 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: I came up the same way. I had the pressure 165 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: of perfection and I tried to live up to it 166 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: until my parents got a divorce. 167 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: And I'm like, whoa. 168 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: In my day that was like, you know, it's normal 169 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: now every day it happens every day. Back then, it 170 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: was like a culture shouting for me. It shattered my 171 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: whole world. 172 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: I was like, bump the church. Then, what I'm doing there? 173 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: Why am I being faithful to God in it? Man? 174 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: My dad, I'm out, you know what I'm saying. 175 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: That's when I went to all the clubs did. 176 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: All that stuff. 177 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: I didn't dance though, I just played at all the clubs. 178 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 3: I didn't, you know, I still didn't drained and smoke. 179 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 3: I just went and played the keyboard at all the 180 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: club for like music, soul child, Jill Scott, everybody in 181 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 3: the Philadelphia area of the roots and all that stuff. 182 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: So I'm in there playing hymns to the beasts. They 183 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: don't even know what I'm doing. But I kind of 184 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: had my little rebellious moment during that time, just to 185 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: find out who I am outside of y'all expectations. Man, 186 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 3: I said, of who y'all saying God is to me, 187 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: let me find them for myself. Let me figure out 188 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: who you're for myself. And it's been the most liberating thing. 189 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: And I've been walking in that since. 190 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 7: I feel like that's a journey, and that's a formal 191 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 7: liberation every human has to experience in their life. 192 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: You and you should like strive to feel that. 193 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: No literally, whether you're religious or a church or not. 194 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: Just the family, just family bond, you know what I mean. 195 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: Blood all of that family can bind you, bro Family 196 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: can keep you stuck in a level that you never 197 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: supposed to be in for the rest of your life. 198 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: People who love you can bind you. 199 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: Do through their care, through their love, through their expectations, 200 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: through manipulation, through emotional manipulation. 201 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: It's a whole lot of things that keep us. 202 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: From being who we're supposed to be in this earth 203 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: because of other people's expectations and demand. So I'm all 204 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: about freedom, man. My My whole life is freedom. My 205 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: whole mantra is about freedom. So when you when you 206 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: you know, contact me or hear my music, people think 207 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: it's energy. I like to call it the spirit of freedom, man, 208 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: liberating everybody, because you need that. When you don't know 209 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: you bound, that's the worst. When you don't know you're bound, 210 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: that is the worst. When you become used to being manipulated, 211 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: used to being controlled, used to being used. 212 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: You can either be used or loved. You can't be both. 213 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: You could either be used or love. 214 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: And a lot of people are being used and not 215 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: realizing they're not experiencing true love, man. So they just 216 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: just get used to being used, like all right, I'll 217 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: do this for you, I'll come through for you, I'll 218 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: do it whenever you call me, I'm there. 219 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: And they think that's that's love. But a lot of 220 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: them are being used. 221 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 7: Did a lot of those triggers resurface in your marriage 222 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 7: when you separated? 223 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Well me and my wife separated. 224 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: It was it was it was bad, yo, it was 225 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: it was very very bad for me because I didn't 226 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 3: think my whole thing. When my father messed up with 227 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: my dad, I'm like, I ain't never gonna be like him. 228 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna do that. No, no, no, So I 229 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: went the pride way. 230 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: So my heart just really was like, you know what 231 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I got more exposure than he ever got. 232 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: I got more notoriot than he ever got. And I'm 233 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: still ain't gonna do what he did. I'm still letting 234 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: that pride. 235 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: Comes before a fall. And I fell hard and I 236 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: moved to La. My wife was in Jersey. We just separated. 237 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: I didn't think we would ever, you know, get back 238 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: together again. I was just out there working on me. 239 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: She was out there. 240 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: She was out there working on her, not really trying 241 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: to get the marriage back together. And I think when 242 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: you try to do that too soon, sometimes you damage 243 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: you know, you damage it because you just your point 244 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: is just to try to get them get back together, 245 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 3: but not work on you, because you still got stuff 246 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: you got to work. I still have stuff I had 247 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: to work on. I still had weaknesses I had to 248 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: work on. And so I'm out there working on me, 249 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: she's working on her. I'm praying. She's praying that God 250 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: kind of just brought our hearts back together. But through 251 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: that whole time, I realized my mortality, I realized my humanism, 252 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: I realized my weaknesses. I realized who I was for real, 253 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: like this religious perspective. I became that like like now 254 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: I'm a pastor, right, But I don't say I'm a pastor. 255 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just a child of God with asignment. 256 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying. I'm a child of God 257 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: who got something to say to a certain group of people. 258 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: I don't become my assignment. You understand what I'm saying. 259 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: But that's the world today. If I would to meet 260 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: you in the street, the first thing I'll say is 261 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: what do you do? 262 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: Not who are you? You understand what I'm saying. 263 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: And I think we lose who we are and what 264 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: we do. And that's what I did. I got lost 265 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: in all of that, and I forgot who I was. 266 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 7: And now I read that you you battle with deep 267 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 7: depression during that time, Yeah, contmpleted suicide. 268 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 4: What got you out of that? 269 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 3: Literally, what got me out of suicide initially was just people. 270 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: It was just people around me too much. I couldn't 271 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: get by myself. It was just always literally, it wasn't 272 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: my prayer life. It wasn't the Holy ghost, it was peep. 273 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: It was physical people around me. 274 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: Ty you good, TI? You want to eat TI. 275 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, cause y'all just leaves like a pope, these pills, 276 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: because y'all just leaves like to try to do all 277 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: this stuff. 278 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: But depression is a. 279 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: Deep, deep, deep dark spirit, man, And I'm glad that 280 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: I had people around me to help me get through 281 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: that season. 282 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 8: Man. 283 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: Just all those thoughts and all those suggestions that come 284 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: to us, man, and we feel like it's us. 285 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: I love that I call them. I called them well. 286 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: I had a little series that I called Ghostbusters, right, so, 287 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 3: because there's other ghosts besides the holy ghosts. And if 288 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: you don't differentiate what ghost is speaking to you, bro, 289 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 3: you could be lost in that whole rabbit hole of depression, suicide, stress, 290 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: all of these things. My issue is we let all 291 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: these ghosts talk to us, and we do what they say, 292 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: and we take on the moves and the and the 293 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: attitudes of all these voices that are speaking to us. 294 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: Therapy helps, counseling helps, but ultimately the spirit of God 295 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: is the only one that could really, you know, deliver 296 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: us and rescue us from that man. And I had 297 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: I had that. I had that, but I was there, 298 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: and I couldn't believe I was there. I love my life, 299 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: I love my wife, I love I thought I was. 300 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: I thought I was good. 301 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: But then when tragedy hits you and you just can't 302 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: take it and you just feel like you have no 303 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: other option. It was really the embarrassment. It was really 304 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: the pride of everybody know who I am. It really 305 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: wasn't life was so hard. It was how I saw 306 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: myself and how I thought I was. So when you 307 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: just drop who you are, like yo, when you just 308 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 3: just just. 309 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: Kill who you think you are, man, just be nothing. 310 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: The Bible says, uh uh, he who seeks to save 311 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: his life will lose it. But if you lose your life, 312 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: you'll gain it. So I lost the celebrity side of me. 313 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: I lost the godspel artists. I lost I like, forget 314 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: being the father, forget being a husband, forget all these 315 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: things I think I am. I'm just I'm just tired 316 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: right now. And then that's when salvation begin to come. 317 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 5: Because you really are bigger than your image, and it 318 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 5: was all in the image that you were living in. 319 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's that's not that's not social media today. 320 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: You are your image today. 321 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. You are, You are who 322 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: you post today. 323 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 5: So that's why it's also a lot of suicide out 324 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 5: of a lot of depression, a lot more than we 325 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 5: see it. 326 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: You know, how challenging is it to be to be 327 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: on social media? You understand what I'm saying. I know 328 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: some people who will never be beyond the camera without 329 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 3: they lashes on, who will never get on there without 330 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 3: certain things. So how challenging is it to be your 331 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: authentic self on social media? I don't think or onto 332 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: the world. I don't think people are ready to bear 333 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: that nakedness, you know what I'm saying. But it's gonna 334 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: take somebody who's undershamed to be like, hey, this is 335 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: me and love me or leave me and just run. 336 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: The risk of that. But I don't think people are 337 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: ready for that. 338 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 6: I did that early. 339 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 5: I got a little it's a little ponytail. 340 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 6: It's still going around. 341 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: You try to get it off. 342 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying get it off now, But I'm like, yo, 343 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 5: that's that's when I first started, and it was out there. 344 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 6: They put T shirt, put it on T shirts and everything, 345 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 6: like Jess. It was a lot of I sold it out, 346 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 6: but I was like, you know what. 347 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: This down But that's what I loved about you. That's 348 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: what I love. You understand what I'm saying. 349 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 4: Damn, just don't give them right right? 350 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: Would you do it? Though you admire that, but would 351 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: you do it? Would you do it? 352 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 4: If I had the poonty that would. 353 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: Head? 354 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: There's a picture there's a picture of Charlamagne with head 355 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: and look kind of like it starts back here, But 356 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: you never posted that. 357 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: I got to see that. 358 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 7: I think you and your whole situation is just a 359 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 7: testament to the glory of God. 360 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 4: You you and your wife were together. 361 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: Now yeah, she's right here, right behind me. 362 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 7: Man. 363 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: She survived the car. Y'all been through a lot. 364 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: Ye, a whole, a whole, a whole lot. 365 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: It seemed like a series of unfortunate events, you know 366 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And her life, I mean, it's just 367 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: it just it just starts from I'm gonna say it 368 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: starts from burst. Everybody's life starts from U. But with 369 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: the with growing up with parents like I had and 370 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: she was basically fatherless for a long period of time. 371 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: You grow up with a whole lot of unmet needs, 372 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You have needs as a 373 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: child that you should have met that you don't have met. Security, protection, encouragement, validation, 374 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: all of these things. 375 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: We we affection. 376 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: We have to grow up without that right, So now 377 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: we got to make the choice of either like living 378 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: without it or killing the desire period. So now we 379 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: commit what we call my man Tim Fletcher calls sole suicide. 380 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: So you commit sole suicide because as a child of 381 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: three year. 382 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: Old, I need affection. 383 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: I don't know I need it, but naturally I need it, 384 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: and if I don't get it, I just killed the 385 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: desire for it. So now I'm in a relationship and 386 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: I don't know how to be affection saying you understand 387 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Or I got kids and I don't 388 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: know how to show that because I've been killed that. 389 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: So now we're trying to like restore those things and 390 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: trying to do it in the context of marriage. A 391 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: marriage her at eighteen, I was twenty one, So that's 392 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: a that's a kid. Those are kids when I look 393 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: at them. Ages now I'm like, man, it was a kid. 394 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: That's really little kid. We live together? Huh? 395 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: How long y'all been together? 396 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: Twenty eight now? 397 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's twenty eight years. 398 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 7: Gah, my wife twenty six over being his wife thirty thirty. 399 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: I congrass, bro, So y'all know what I'm talking about. 400 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 4: Listen. I relate to your story so much. 401 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 7: Even when you talk about how you know what you 402 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 7: saw in your father and not wanting to be like that, yeah, 403 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 7: and then finding out that you became just like that later, 404 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 7: do you understand? 405 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 4: Oh my god, do you understand? 406 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: Man, that's like a that's like a that's like a 407 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: It's like a shock to your whole to your whole system. 408 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 7: Man. 409 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: You got to do a whole lot of rewiring man. 410 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: And my thing is, I think a lot of people 411 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: know they need help. Where they go to get help 412 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: is just as important as knowing you need help. 413 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: So you know what I mean. 414 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: So therapists and all that stuff, I think that I 415 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: think that's all is great, But I like to go 416 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: to the source. I like to go to the creator, 417 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: and I believe God is the creative of all of us. 418 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: If you don't turn to God, man, you'll get a 419 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: band there, you'll get medicated, but the real healing is 420 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: in Jesus Christ. 421 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 7: I'm believe in God and therapy me too, me too, 422 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 7: and plant based medicine and healing and meditation. 423 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 4: I can't spoke to with your brother, but I understand, 424 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 4: but I feel I'm God. 425 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: I am mad at you, Bro. 426 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: I ain't hear the judge at all, but you know, 427 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: I just feel like when something else becomes your source, 428 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: something else is your source, you know what I mean. 429 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: And that's the scary part to me. I don't want 430 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: another thing besides God to be my source. Everything could 431 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 3: be a resource, and if God leads me to that, fine, 432 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 3: But if I just choose it, I could damage myself 433 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: and my life and what I want and desire to 434 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: do or be in life. 435 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: But what do you think about some of the It 436 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: seems like for a while, maybe the last ten years, 437 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 2: it seems like being a pastor was cool, right, So 438 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: it was like like everybody wanted to be a rapper, 439 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: everybody wanted to be a podcast host. At least, like 440 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: a lot of people wanted to be pastor for the 441 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 2: wrong reasons. 442 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you feel about that? You missed that 443 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: or the past error remember the past, you know, man, 444 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: it was building them huge churches. Everybody was. 445 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: I think the pastor phenomenon came from, oh, man. 446 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 4: Getting money. 447 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 6: There's a bunch of different things. 448 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 5: You can speak to them more, but I think getting 449 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 5: money in the church and how you look and how 450 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 5: you're praised is and you forget that he's supposed to 451 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 5: be praised, but I praise you and all that type 452 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 5: of stuff. 453 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 6: So yeah, I see a lot of Instagram pass out there, but. 454 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: You know it is you killed. 455 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 3: You killed that whole thing. I think a lot of 456 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 3: pastors were not called the pastor. They just you know, study, 457 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: you go to school and then you just become a 458 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: pastor like you become a manager at you know, publics 459 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: or something like that. And that's that's unfortunate for a 460 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 3: lot of people who invest their you know, money, time, attention, 461 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 3: and their soul into people who they believe are literally 462 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: called from God. I don't believe a lot of pastors are. 463 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: I think I think. 464 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: It's a system. Now on God. It's a system. 465 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: Everything is a system, and systems work with or without God. 466 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: So I think the institution of church is whack. I 467 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: think how church is ran is whack. I think the 468 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 3: religious system and structure is whack. I don't subscribe to it, 469 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 3: even though I grew up in it, I benefited from it. 470 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: But I learned that God is not the church. 471 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: And once I realized whoa God? Ain't church for me? 472 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I ain't from the streets. 473 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm from the church. So that was a huge thing 474 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: as well. 475 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 4: It's in the marbles, say you can't even find God 476 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 4: in the man made too. 477 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Why don't we read that? 478 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 6: Though? 479 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: How often do you hear that sermon? 480 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 7: No? 481 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: You hear people. Pastors make the people about the church. 482 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: We got the church name, we Church and the church 483 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: and the bumper stick of the church. 484 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: The church should be about the people. The church should 485 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: be about the people. But the church makes the people 486 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: about the church. 487 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: So all churches now are a movement, but they're not 488 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: about the people. 489 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: They're not about serving and loving the people. So I 490 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: just kind of pulled that. 491 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: We online right now. We're not even in the building, 492 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: a physical building or nothing like that. So Live Church, 493 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 3: shout out to Live Church. I love y'all so much. 494 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: Live Church, Orlando. We're online right now. And because we 495 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: had an issue with a building, and now I'm like, 496 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: hold up, what's going on here? Like do we need 497 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 3: a bit like you understand what I'm saying, like in 498 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: order to do what we need to do affect people, 499 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: serve and love and minister. I'm just looking at everything 500 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: differently at this point because the church structure has really 501 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of people who won't even 502 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 3: go to church. 503 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: Obviously when the last time y'all been to church? 504 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 7: I go every Sunday on bedside Baptist. Yeah, I like 505 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 7: watching Potter's House online. 506 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, wait to jump down here through and 507 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 5: be like, no, you don't every Sunday. 508 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: But why not? 509 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 7: Honestly is because it's not too many churches that speak 510 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 7: to my spirit. I really do like what they do 511 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 7: in the Potter's House. I think there's a lot of 512 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 7: annoying in that church from Bishop td Jake's Jake Roberts 513 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 7: the truth to So even when I'm in Dallas, if 514 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 7: I'm now on like today, I'll stay just to go 515 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 7: on like this, you physically go, oh absolutely, what about you? 516 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: For me? 517 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 2: It's I used to hate going to church as a kid, 518 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: right because Baptist Church is staying there for five hours, 519 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: especially if somebody's getting baptized, you gotta dress up. So 520 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: it made me not necessarily love it right. And I 521 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: noticed that with my kids when I took them to church, 522 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: it became mature, like I gotta get dressed. I got 523 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: this for now. On Sunday morning, we can cook breakfast together, 524 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: sit down on the couch and watch it and it's comfortable. 525 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: Then gotta get dressed. They ain't got Mommy, ain't got 526 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: to do the kids here, Yeah, they ain't got to 527 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: make sure things are right because they got to sit there. Now, 528 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: it's not that at all. It's all about the church, 529 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: which I prefer. So, yeah, we go online, you know 530 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: what I mean. And I don't have to just stick 531 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: to one church. You know, as a kid growing up 532 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: in New York, we always had to go to Brooklyn 533 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: to Grandma's church. 534 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: There was no option. 535 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: It was let me try something else. Now on TV 536 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: one day, I can turn dollar next day, I can 537 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: turn next day, and I can get different feelings and 538 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: my kids can as well. So I prefer that as 539 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: well too. 540 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 6: Why you don't, I was, he was going to ask me. 541 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 5: I was, so, yeah, So I still have I still 542 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 5: belong to my home church in Baltimore City Restoration Christian 543 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 5: and Cocleesia Church. And I'm not in Baltimore on Sundays anymore, 544 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 5: you know, just I have to be here. 545 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 6: I gotta wake up three forty five in the morning. 546 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 5: But even before that, I was doing shows Thursday through Sunday, 547 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 5: so I wasn't able to go. And if I just 548 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 5: try more, I can definitely get on the road to 549 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 5: come up here after church because church is from ten 550 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 5: to twelve, ten to one sometimes. 551 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 6: But I still pay my times, you know what I mean, I. 552 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: Still give all. 553 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 5: Friend, my mom's a deacon. I grew up in that church. 554 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 5: It was called Holy Church of Christ when I was younger, 555 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 5: and my son has been Christian in that church. And 556 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 5: my my baby that I'm having now will go and 557 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 5: get Christian. I'm never I don't want to go to 558 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 5: another church. 559 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 7: You know. 560 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 5: I will listen to a sermon from someone else like 561 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 5: y'all listen to Sarah Jakes, you know, I will, and 562 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 5: different podcasts as well. But I just my my reason 563 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 5: is simply just an excuse. I just don't go to 564 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 5: church because I travel. 565 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I get that. What do y'all look for when 566 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: you go to a church. What do y'all, what do 567 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: y'all look for? 568 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 3: Like you said, everyone, don't don't touch your soul, don't 569 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: minister to your spirit. 570 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 7: It's not about what I look for. It's about what 571 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 7: I feel got it. It's a feeling, you know what 572 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 7: I mean? 573 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: Like you just I know what you mean. 574 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 7: Would just speak to your soul? You know, I think, Sorry, 575 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 7: Jake's right now, mans to me. 576 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 4: I'm talking to you all the time, even when I 577 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 4: just want to listen to her podcast. 578 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 7: So I just think some people have an annoying on 579 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 7: them for the moment that we are in. And just 580 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 7: like her father had it and still has it, you know, 581 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 7: she has it for the current. 582 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: Moment that we're in. 583 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 6: And then another thing, So growing up in a church where. 584 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 5: You know, I'm so used to that back in the 585 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 5: day like Manson's, I don't want to go to a big, big, 586 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 5: big church because the pastor don't know me. I'm used 587 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 5: to going to talk to the past pastor after church, 588 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 5: going to get that individual prayer, going to tell him 589 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 5: what I'm struggling with and all that. As a teenager, 590 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 5: I was going through a lot of things, you know 591 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 5: what I mean. So I would be able to go 592 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 5: and talk to my uncle he is the bishop, Like, 593 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 5: go and talk to him and stuff like that. But 594 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 5: I've gone to churches where you know, the pastor don't 595 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 5: even know you, and he's not even tripping off getting. 596 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: To know nobody. 597 00:23:59,359 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 598 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, he just come and he do his thing. They 599 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 5: sing a whole album before he starts the sermon. Yet, yes, right, 600 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 5: you shout. I see people shouting. I see you know 601 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 5: all of that. And that's what I'm used to because 602 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 5: you not inuble I start coming from there and then 603 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 5: absolutely no wood. 604 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: I started going to church till later got you growing 605 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: for that. 606 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 6: Whole going around knocking on the doors. 607 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: How you doing? How you know? That's what I'm talking about. 608 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking time for that. 609 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 5: But you got time to walk down every black and 610 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 5: handing the pamphlets. 611 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and too early y'all come to it came around noon, 612 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: to'll be honest. 613 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 5: So yeah, this is the personal personal has been lost, 614 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And then it becomes to 615 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 5: the point where the. 616 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 6: Like I said, the pastor feel. 617 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 5: Like he's got Yeah, that's what I'm talking to churches 618 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 5: and and. 619 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: That's what I meant by churches is whacking, because I 620 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: know I went on just wack whack whacking church probably 621 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: like you just in my church last week. 622 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't mean that. 623 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 3: I mean I mean that stuff right there and what 624 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: has become I have found it. 625 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: I have found it. 626 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: I think I said the right challenging to know everyone 627 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: in my church, though I found it. 628 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: I found it challenging. I try to be personable. I 629 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: try to. 630 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: I stay at the church and just I stand at 631 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: whoever want to come to me, they can talk to me. 632 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: I don't got the. 633 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: Eighty security guards and all that, right, I'm standing, they 634 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 3: can talk to me. 635 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: But it's a challenge to know everybody in the church. 636 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 6: And that's a big that's because a bigger, it's a bigger, bigger. 637 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: But your new families though, like in my church, they 638 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: knew the Casey family and parents, they knew the Johnson's 639 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: and it is one of that one was a new family. 640 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, overall, and that means something that that 641 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 3: that means a lot to people. But what if you 642 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: didn't get that, does that mean that's not the church 643 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: for you? Because Moses led millions of people. 644 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: I doubt he knew you. 645 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 3: Know what I mean, joh Qubbos, whatever his name was, 646 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 3: I doubt, I doubt he knew everyone, but he was 647 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: still their leader. So I tried to look at it 648 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: from a lot of perspectives, you know what I mean, 649 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: and make sure people are coming for the right reason, 650 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 3: and make sure or the pastor is there for let me. 651 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: Ask you a question. 652 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: Right, So, growing up in Queen's I went to Catholic school. Right, 653 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: my zone school is the worst, so my parents was 654 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: making me go to Capital School. I wasn't going to 655 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: Andrew Jackson, but I noticed in Catholic school as a kid, 656 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 2: Catholic school thirty thirty minutes, maybe thirty five, you up 657 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: out of there. It's I mean, didn't gone, I'm back home. 658 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: Baptist church is three hours. 659 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So we don't want to say, 660 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: but it's the point. 661 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 2: As a kid, you know, you you feel like I 662 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 2: get everything I need in this thirty minutes. I don't 663 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: need this in three and a half hours. I was 664 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: always wonder like why is the church so long? Because 665 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: you know, you got announcements, then you get passed it. 666 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 2: You're gonna pass it around twice. Then since then so 667 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: and so got to talk about. 668 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 6: And if you don't give enough on the first off, 669 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 6: we almost. 670 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 2: Almost they double back, you know what I mean. And 671 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: I think that's part of it why it's so long. 672 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think churches have changed since then. I don't 673 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: think churches is three hours like that anymore. I mean 674 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: not she I think it's like nothing I've seen she 675 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: going in. I've seen church structures like ninety minutes, you 676 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. They try to be more mindful 677 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: of that. And the more you know, current churches and 678 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: stuff like that, they try to do, they try to 679 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 3: cut that down a little bit. But I think the 680 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: reason is is people just have a lot of expression. Man, 681 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: they got a lot of They got a lot to say, 682 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 3: They got a lot to get out. You understand what 683 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I hated the law churches. I grew up Pentecostal. 684 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: So Pentecostal church. What three hours? 685 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: That's it? We're just getting right, yo. Three When you 686 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: said three hours, like what, man, we just getting started. 687 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: We had nothing else to do. We ain't had no 688 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: social media. Well, Sundays was for God, so we was 689 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: gonna stay all Sunday. So after the five Hours Center 690 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 3: back after the five hour service. You service, come on, 691 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 3: you better stay for that second. 692 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: We got people coming. 693 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 3: I hated that, but I'm so glad it was like 694 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: that for me as a remember young you understand what 695 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 696 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm so glad it was like that for me because 697 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: it just kept me from a whole lot. 698 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: You like Michael Williams. 699 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 3: You, Yeah, Chris rock a lot and uh, I don't 700 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: know who Michael K. 701 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 4: Willim So you got a similar interview. 702 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I never met him, very energetic. I never met him. 703 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: Maybe we need to hook up or something like that. 704 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he dad, he done. 705 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: Oh I don't know. Okay, I guess I can't. I 706 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: guess I can. I guess I can't. Don't get today. 707 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: Don't give me the dog here today. I'm sorry. I 708 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 1: didn't know. I don't know. 709 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm trying to cut him on. 710 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: Y'all will connect one day if you believe you can 711 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: see him again, I have done. 712 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 4: Is the true that you worked on justin Tim Blake's 713 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 4: Crime Me River? 714 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I worked on I was. 715 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: We was in the Root studio again growing up in 716 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 3: the Philly Camden, Philly area. We did our first album 717 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: at the at the Root Studio. Crazy how we got 718 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 3: signed to. Vivian Green is like an R and B 719 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: soul artist and she was doing a showcase for uh 720 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: Tommy Mottola and Donnie Irono and the matt Sony and 721 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: she said, Tie, you know, I was like her cousin 722 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: at the time. We were like, real close, Ty, I 723 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 3: want you to m D my show case. I know 724 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: you asked me this. I'm just taking you know, you 725 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: know I want you to MD my showcase. I said, 726 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: all right, bet, I got a little couple of people 727 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: from the choir, a couple of people from the band. 728 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 3: We just put together a little show for viv So, 729 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 3: speaking of energy and all that, we in there with 730 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: Tommy Mattola and and Donnie iron and all these people 731 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: at Columbia and I'm just young, you know, I'm just playing. 732 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: I'm I'm like this all the time. If I'm playing, 733 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: I'm like this, you know what I mean? 734 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: Everything is energetic. 735 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: So they like, we love Vivian Green, we're gonna sign 736 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: her to Columbia, and we're gonna sign this guy right here. 737 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: Who's that And it was like, oh no, no, no, no, 738 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: that's that's a that's a gospel guy. You know, he 739 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: does choir and stuff like that. We're signing Vivian and 740 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: we're signing the gospel guy. 741 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: I was like, what. Within ninety days, we. 742 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: Had a contract at our crib from Columbia Records. No demo, 743 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: no black and white, no no profile pickre, no nothing, 744 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: and we got signed to Columbia. 745 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: Uh with you know, nah, she got her deal. I 746 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: got my deal. 747 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: So my first album came out under Columbia Records, called 748 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: Life because because of that, that moment right there, I'm like, well, 749 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: God is really real, you know what I mean. I mean, 750 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: you could say being in the right place at the 751 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 3: right time, but I believe in the favor of God. 752 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: And so we're doing our album in the Root studio. 753 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 3: James Poyser shout out. James Poyser was a producer on that. 754 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: He's with the Roots. Now you're singing on Jimmy Fallon 755 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: every night and uh. 756 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: In the Root studio, they had the plant based you know, 757 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: stuff going on every single day. G was in there, 758 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 3: We was in there getting contact. You'll try to sing 759 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: the praises of the Lord and just being in that environment. 760 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: Then the rooster is like, oh, you know why don't 761 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 3: you do this such a stubs coming to the studio, 762 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: such as us coming to the studio, such and such. 763 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: We just became the choir for like everybody who came. 764 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 3: So we're on Jessica Simpson's Christmas album and we're on 765 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: so many albums as background singers. So Timberland came through 766 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 3: and we just called him Vibe Timbland. We were just 767 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: in there just vibing. Tim just put a beat on it. 768 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 3: We were just in there playing. I love working with Tim. 769 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: Tim. 770 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: We could ever do that again, bro, Yeah, please let's 771 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 3: look that up. So we was in there vibing the 772 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: crimea River. He said, I got this somble Justice. So 773 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 3: I'm in there like, okay, dudent, dude, dud dude. So 774 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: that's me playing that literally on the world it sir, 775 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: that's literally literally me. And then the backgrounds on there 776 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: and me and my girl Marshall from Flower Tree. 777 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: Did the background yeah, and she amazing. Yo, shout out Marshall. 778 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: I love you girl. 779 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: We did the backgrounds to that. And so just when 780 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: it came out and were listening to it and it's 781 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: everywhere since seventy eleven, and why were like, oh, but 782 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: that's us, that's us. 783 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: Shut up, boy, that'll be twenty dollars. You know what 784 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean. I'm like, wait, that's. 785 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 4: Give me a little sprite. 786 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: Back. 787 00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 4: Been crazy? 788 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 1: Did you get paying for it the right way? 789 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 4: Oh? 790 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: Damn, I got two thousand dollars for not the past, man, 791 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: you don't do the past. 792 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know you cried you a river. 793 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 7: That's all you got lord that Murphy two thousand dollars 794 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 7: for crime river. 795 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got two thousand dollars for that, But you 796 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: played I played it with. 797 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: Song. 798 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 6: That's what everybody knows. That's when what you hear, that's 799 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 6: what you look for. 800 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: Before anybody they don't take care of the pastor called him. 801 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: It was, it was, it was, it was yeah, But 802 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: you know, I didn't know the business at the time, 803 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: and I was so hyped to get two thousand dollars. 804 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. Y'all think got. 805 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: Treated everybody to a fry at McDonald's. Everybody, you understand 806 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I was just so hyped. But 807 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: I didn't know the business then, so I don't got 808 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: no hard. 809 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: Feelings about Yeah. 810 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can go check it out, go check out 811 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: the credit check the credits, yo, go check the cred. 812 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 5: You know what you give it Chris Rock, Yes, go 813 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 5: check the credit show. 814 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely I see it now. But yeah know 815 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: that you did that. That did a whole lot? Did 816 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: the whole USh? What is that? 817 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: What did you do with Usher? 818 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: I know what? I don't think I'm sure that. 819 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: I mean said toured with us. I don't know. 820 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 6: You gotta be specific. 821 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what you do? 822 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: What I should hold up about in the church for 823 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 3: a second, we might have been on the same program. 824 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: I didn't do anything. We didn't do you know. I 825 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: love to be usher Man. That's that's the homie. 826 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 8: Yes, come on, don't be with the mess right every 827 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 8: day something with these two niggas, Yo, every. 828 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: Day I'm like, what are you talking about? 829 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot to go because you 830 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: don't never know what they go. 831 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 7: You got to tell you congratulations. Let me get you 832 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 7: out of here. You're get in some trouble. 833 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 4: Ye. 834 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: Last year Reunion tour was was last year. It was amazing. 835 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: I did All Things New tour in the spring and 836 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: then I did the Reunion tour in the fall winter. 837 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: It was It was an amazing dude. 838 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: That with Kirk and Clark's sisters Israel David and Tamla Man. 839 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 3: That was incredible my first arena tour. Never did that before, 840 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 3: so I'm like to hear the songs with all them people. 841 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: It was just it was it was surreal. So we're 842 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 3: doing it again this year. I'm going out May June 843 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 3: on the only one night though tour. 844 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: Only one night though. 845 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: That's my new single that's out only one night though, 846 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: and the tour is going May June. I'm telling y'all, 847 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: I have uh a second win of some sort. I 848 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 3: don't have a second, third, or fourth whatever, but I 849 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: have this this momentum behind me right now, and I 850 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,479 Speaker 3: am so excited to get out there and do this music. 851 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 3: I got new music coming, book, coming podcasts, all this 852 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 3: stuff is coming, you know, off the hinges of the Grammy. 853 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: And it's just a good season for me right now. Yes, 854 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: I want everybody to come. What he's great man record 855 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: only one real quick. 856 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 6: Let me just say this, So what you did for 857 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 6: me growing up is to your music. You you didn't 858 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 6: make it. 859 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: You like you. 860 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 5: You and Kirk Franklin was the first two men that 861 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 5: did not make listening in the gospel boring, yo, because 862 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 5: like me growing up with a deaconess as a mom, 863 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 5: and you know, my daddy was a little bit more lenient, 864 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 5: you know, but we had to go to church and 865 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 5: a little bit planning to what he was saying, like 866 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 5: we had to and I had to get the stiff 867 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 5: ponytail with the bali ball. 868 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 6: You know, my head wasn't really long, so when I moved. 869 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: It didn't, you know. 870 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 6: So I'm like, I don't want to. 871 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: Go here, you know. 872 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 5: And I had the little church socks and all that 873 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 5: the ones that Jermaine Free had on at the you know, 874 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 5: I will always do that, you know, like you when 875 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 5: when my mom would put you on, she would put 876 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 5: she will put you on just so we can get 877 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 5: excited to go to church. 878 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: Wow. 879 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 6: So that is really something for me. 880 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 5: You and Kirk Franklin, y'all are only too My mom 881 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 5: be like all right, all right, and then she knew 882 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 5: how to play some other people. 883 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 4: When we were going too much. 884 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 5: And I was like, I don't want to listen to 885 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 5: much then, but but to get us in the mood 886 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 5: to go to church. 887 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 6: Trip and Kirk Franklin, that's what that's what I love 888 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 6: about you or. 889 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 7: The song you remember, No way, I can't even. 890 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 8: Then you're going to the aim, you know, not what strike. 891 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: Heart? That strike him down? Lord? 892 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 3: Ladies, do you think people have my times about? But 893 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 3: do you think people have a problem with God? 894 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 4: No? 895 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 5: No, most peoplebody. 896 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 4: I know. Yeah, my whole life has been God fearing. 897 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 4: But I think that I think that you have to 898 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 4: show improve that through actions. 899 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I think it's one thing 900 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 7: to say, oh, I believe in God, I love God. 901 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 4: But do you really try to at least scribe to 902 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 4: move the way God would want you to move? 903 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: Okay? 904 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 4: I think that's the difficult Okay. 905 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: So it's not the it's not the it's not the 906 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: it's not the belief. 907 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 4: It's the behavior. 908 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I think, yeah, sometimes it's the behavior of the messenger. 909 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: What you mean. 910 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: Somebody will say I have an assignment, right like you said, 911 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: I have an assignment. And maybe your assignment is to 912 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 2: help Jess in her situation and her problems, and maybe 913 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 2: you do, but then you as a person. It's not 914 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: coming from the perspective of somebody giving the assignment. You 915 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 2: see what I'm saying. So let's say, if you're here 916 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: to help Jess in her life and whatever it may be. 917 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: But you know, you cheating on your wife with Charlamagne. 918 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: It's it's I look at it as that's example, but 919 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: I just look at it as it's not gonna be 920 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: the thing. 921 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: But I look at it as you're giving the assignment, 922 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 2: but the person giving the assignment is not living the 923 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 2: life that But that's what a little bit. That's what 924 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 2: makes me hard to see because you're giving the excitement, 925 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: but you're not living, right. 926 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: It's like, are you really giving it? 927 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 4: Nobody around Jesus living? 928 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 3: That's all about to say, like what's your what's your 929 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 3: teacher living algebra? Like, you know what I'm saying, Can 930 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 3: somebody get can somebody give you information that will help you? 931 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: That's still flaws right, But sometimes it's like, it's that 932 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: information true. If you're out there selling crack every night, 933 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 2: giving cracks, you you might be feeling and saving me, 934 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: but then you're killing a hundred others. It's like, is 935 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: this coming from God or is that coming from a 936 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: negative evil the devil? You know what I'm saying. So 937 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: it's kind of got you hard to trust it, oparate 938 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 2: and trust it. 939 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 4: But that's a decernment coming in exactly, So. 940 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 1: You need the spirit as well. You know what I'm saying. 941 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: That's what I think. 942 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 3: So when I say how you feel about God, I 943 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 3: was going to ask how you feel about all of that? 944 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: You said, you're too growing for the Holy cost. 945 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 4: But I think they be playing. 946 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying. To some people. 947 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 6: Some people do. 948 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: They do the most, do most, most most. 949 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 4: And seeing them harlem shake, I'm like making you harlem shaking. 950 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 4: I cut it out, man, embrace. 951 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 3: I think most embrace the culture of church, but not 952 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 3: the Christ of them, you know, not Christ. 953 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: So I think that's that's the issue as well. 954 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: I think when you when you try to move without 955 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 3: the spirit of God, not just the word of God, 956 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 3: but the spirit of God. This is this is where 957 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 3: personal relationship comes in. When you try to move or 958 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 3: live your life without the spirit of God. 959 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: That is your God, that is your direction. 960 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 3: The Holy goes to the Bible said, the Holy Spirit 961 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 3: comes to lead and to guide us into all truth. 962 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of wisdom and truth that we 963 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: forfeit by not being led by the Spirit of God, 964 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 3: by being led by Google, by being led by other 965 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 3: things like that. 966 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: Even a therapist. 967 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 3: I will add, the Bible says, add to your faith knowledge, 968 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 3: but add to your faith. I think we let knowledge 969 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 3: replace our faith, we let counsel replace our faith. Every 970 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 3: new information you get as a believer should add to 971 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 3: your faith, and that comes through discernment and knowing the 972 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 3: spirit of God. 973 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: So take the time to develop that relationship with God. 974 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,959 Speaker 1: Like this sounds crazy, but Lord, all right, let me pray. 975 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, whatever it is, take that 976 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: time to develop. 977 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 3: It's your protection, you know what I mean, from the 978 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 3: wolves in sheep's clothing. It's your protection from wrong relationships 979 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 3: and dating the wrong person. God knows all, He knows 980 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 3: the person you're dealing with. He knows the thoughts and 981 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 3: the intents of the of the and the motives of 982 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 3: the people you're dealing with. 983 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: So the Holy. 984 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 3: Spirit is a cheat cold to help us deal with life, 985 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 3: to rate, to make the right business decisions, to make 986 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 3: the right decisions for our children, because this child is 987 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 3: different from this one. 988 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: I can't do that on my own. 989 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 3: So when you allow the Holy Spirit to be elite 990 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 3: and your God, I mean, your. 991 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: Way will be prosperous. 992 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 3: The Bible says so, and you'll be protected because everybody 993 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 3: is for themselves in this world. And there as much 994 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 3: evil in darkness as you know, as you said, even 995 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 3: in clergy collars. 996 00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: Yo, and I'm tired of it. 997 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 3: My wife and I are going to work on I 998 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 3: think a podcast or something called Flipping Tables, just to 999 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 3: kind of like not exposure aboudy nothing like that. But like, hey, y'all, 1000 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, this is choreography. Praise is 1001 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 3: not it. 1002 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We want people to get 1003 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: relationship and not religion. 1004 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 4: Man. 1005 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: So if anything I'll leave y'all, it will be that. 1006 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: Please please please take the prayer. Oh prayer okay, but 1007 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:23,959 Speaker 1: want to prayer? 1008 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying, you ain't worried about we did 1009 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 5: twenty four hours ago? 1010 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 6: Who because cigarette outside? 1011 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 3: You want to ask that, you want to ask where 1012 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 3: I was last night before you received my prayer? 1013 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 6: You can pray for me in the corner. 1014 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. 1015 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 3: I guess that is important because we never saw presidents 1016 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 3: or we never saw Obama or his family partying. 1017 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he had to be the president, you know 1018 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 1019 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying, so it's very important as the leaders what 1020 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 3: your image is to the people. 1021 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: But part of it to me, I don't know. Maybe 1022 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: because I'm. 1023 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 4: Always found God in the most unlikely places. 1024 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 7: What you mean by that, because he's in the most 1025 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 7: I'm just saying I understand what NV saying. But I 1026 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 7: think sometimes you will miss a message from God because 1027 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 7: you don't like the appearance or not just the messenger, 1028 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 7: you know. Yeah, and sometimes that's what God is working through. 1029 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 7: That's what they did with Jesus. 1030 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: They was like, who this guy, ain't the Savior. That's 1031 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: not him. 1032 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 3: They missed the Savior of the world still to this 1033 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 3: day because of how he was presented. So, but I 1034 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 3: think you have to know him to see him and things. 1035 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: You can see him in the most unlikely places because 1036 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: you know him well. 1037 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 4: If you know God and you, you'll recognize him and 1038 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 4: everybody else exactly. 1039 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 3: I can see him in movies, comic but I can 1040 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 3: see him on his wall, I can see anywhere because 1041 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: I know him. So nothing from without can defile you. 1042 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 3: Always was taught you can't go to clubs. When we 1043 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 3: grew up, you couldn't go to nothing. We couldn't go 1044 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 3: to movies, we couldn't go bowling. We couldn't play basketball 1045 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 3: because it was just drinks. 1046 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: There is that and that. Whatever I say, what's. 1047 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 4: Wrong with bowman? 1048 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: R Jesus shut out? I got it. I didn't know. 1049 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: I just saw, but he shot. 1050 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 1051 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 2: That's paper. 1052 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 3: But I had to learn nothing from without can defile you. 1053 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 3: If it's in you, it's in you. If you ratchet, 1054 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 3: you don't need music to that right. You know what 1055 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying. It only exposes what's allready in you. So 1056 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 3: we got to change and challenge what's in us. 1057 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely think I got one. 1058 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 7: Last question because you made me think, let's do this 1059 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 7: conversation me and just had when they had the New 1060 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 7: Year's Eve thing and they did the swag surf in 1061 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 7: the church. 1062 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: Thank you'all for having me. Man appreciate it very much. 1063 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 5: Clowned out, tell them what you're throwing. Tell the pants 1064 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 5: what you're throwing up here. 1065 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 7: I didn't think it was anything wrong with it because 1066 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 7: my whole thing was they doing it outside the church anyway, 1067 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. 1068 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 4: So if you're having a and it wasn't like it 1069 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 4: was a regular church service, it was new partying, you 1070 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 1071 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you think. 1072 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 6: I thought that a lot of plans were very much 1073 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 6: sorry about that, but you said all of them were 1074 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 6: everybody was. 1075 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 5: Clowns because that was the explicit version being played. Just 1076 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 5: like I said, Charlamagne, I'm like, no, I didn't grow 1077 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 5: up like that in church, Like it's just certain things 1078 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 5: you don't play with. 1079 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 6: You can swag and surf one day. 1080 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 5: Even if he disagreed, I don't get Yeah, I still 1081 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 5: think that it was clowned out. 1082 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 3: No, I agree with you, and that the lyrics was like, yeah, 1083 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 3: I could believe I was hearing. 1084 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 5: That all day, but yeah, I got patron on, my 1085 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 5: girl got a bad behind me and a friend by right, But. 1086 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 6: It was explicit. 1087 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,479 Speaker 3: I think that was a mistake in production or something 1088 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 3: like that. I don't think that was intentional. 1089 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 5: I think it's very much intentional because it was it 1090 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 5: was the youth, a little youth, you faster and yes, 1091 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 5: and was like, you know what, I'm gonna just play 1092 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:46,760 Speaker 5: this by mistake on purpose. 1093 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 2: But if it was a clean version, was the clean version, 1094 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 2: you'd have been okay with it. You can swag surfing church, 1095 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 2: but why does it have to be to the song? 1096 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 2: We can swag surf to attied trumps. So we can 1097 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 2: swag surf to the Kirk Franklin and the little babies 1098 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: you on that. We can swag surf to something. We 1099 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 2: can swag surf the silence we made it into another year. 1100 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: Go to the club after you get out. God bless 1101 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 2: you here. 1102 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 4: All right, do what you do. 1103 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: So how you feel about just the instrumental, that's cool, right. 1104 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 3: You can put whatever words on top of it you want, 1105 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 3: but you like the lyrics and everything in there. 1106 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 4: I didn't have a problem with it, man, because. 1107 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: You know they're gonna listen to it anyway outside and. 1108 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: It's just a dirty version. 1109 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 7: In my mind, I'm like, whoever was in that church 1110 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 7: that night is coming back, And to me that's more important. 1111 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: If she was in that church, she wouldn't come back. 1112 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: I definitely wouldn't. 1113 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 6: Even I don't write in the middle. 1114 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 3: I think the church I'm the wildest, craziest, I'm with everything, 1115 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 3: I swaged whatever. 1116 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: I still think that the church should have something a 1117 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: sacred like. 1118 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 4: People they are they say met people. 1119 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,439 Speaker 6: They don't take that and they run with that. Though 1120 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 6: I'm not with that. 1121 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 3: Nobody, no nobody met. If Jesus met somebody where they were. 1122 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 3: He literally went to them, like when they come to church, 1123 00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 3: the meeting. 1124 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 1: You where you are you? Club? 1125 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 4: Is what you're saying. 1126 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 3: You say that, I'm saying they should be across the 1127 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 3: street from the trip club something when they come out, 1128 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 3: not inside club. I have been to a strip club, 1129 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 3: I am yeah, yeah, you have. 1130 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: I have been to club. 1131 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1132 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: It was a birth What birthday was it? I'm forty 1133 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: eight now. 1134 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 3: I just wanted it was one of them New Years 1135 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 3: when I was like, forget the church, but I'm going. 1136 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: I'm going there. I did not enjoy. I went one 1137 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: time in my entire. 1138 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 3: Life to pray over the girls. I didn't pray over them, No, 1139 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't pray. I prayed over myself more 1140 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 3: than anything. 1141 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, like I did. 1142 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 4: Huh why did you like it? 1143 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 1: Oh? Man? For real? 1144 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 4: Your wife is no. 1145 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 3: No, No, I didn't enjoy. I didn't enjoy who I have 1146 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,399 Speaker 3: never talked about this in my life, I said, people 1147 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 3: who know before I have. 1148 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: I didn't enjoy the performers. 1149 00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 6: What state was it? 1150 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: Florida? 1151 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 2: Should have went to Atlanta? 1152 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 7: No Florida, you mean Florida crazy would do especially in Miami. 1153 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I didn't enjoy. 1154 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 3: I didn't enjoy the performers, and I was like, this 1155 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,959 Speaker 3: is why I'll be longer. 1156 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, booby Trap wasn't went back then. 1157 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: It's okay. Professionally, I think I think God was like, 1158 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 1: you got it out. You're good, the little private moment 1159 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: that you straight. So this is what you wanted, did you? 1160 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, this is not what the four and 1161 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 3: five there that night. 1162 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: God knew what he was doing. I never, I never 1163 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: ever desired to go back. Ever. It was horrible, bro, 1164 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,919 Speaker 1: it was horrible. Man. Can you pray for the stupid show? 1165 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: First of all, thank y'all for being like cultural leaders. 1166 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 4: Man. 1167 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate what y'all do for for for the culture. 1168 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing what y'all do here. Thank you for 1169 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 3: keeping it positive and you crazy. 1170 00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: Y'all all crazy. 1171 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 3: That's who we are, and we're not ashamed to who 1172 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 3: we are. Let's pray for a minute. Thank you, Okay, 1173 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 3: Father God, I thank you for this opportunity to just 1174 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 3: to pray over these blessed people in this show. I 1175 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 3: pray now, God that you just continue to be our 1176 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 3: guide and our lead. There are so many needs just 1177 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 3: in this room and so many needs of people that 1178 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 3: are listening. We can't solve every need. We don't know 1179 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 3: every need, but you promised to supply every need. So 1180 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 3: I pray from emotions to finances, to mental health, to 1181 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 3: physical health to relational security. 1182 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 1: I pray that you just supply every need. Once we're 1183 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: in scarcity. 1184 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,959 Speaker 3: And we need, we get desperate and we do things 1185 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 3: that's not even in our character. So may we never 1186 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 3: be insecure, and may we never lack anything. And when 1187 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 3: we never fear perfect love, cast out all fear. Fill 1188 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 3: us with your perfect love today, and we won't fear anything. 1189 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 3: We won't fear the enemy, we won't feel the way 1190 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 3: of the world, we won't fear anything because we are 1191 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 3: loved by you. Let everybody know for a masurity that 1192 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 3: they are loved, crazy and all baccilating in all not 1193 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 3: whatever whatever state we're in, it does not disqualify us 1194 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 3: from your everlasting love. 1195 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 1: So embrace us with that today. 1196 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 3: In the name of Jesus, Bless everyone, Blessed Charlemagne, bless Envy, 1197 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 3: blessed Jess. 1198 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: Bless this show. God. 1199 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 3: Let it be a beacon of light and a beacon 1200 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 3: of hope to everyone who listens. Let me, put a 1201 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 3: smile on people's face, put joy in their heart and 1202 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 3: happiness in their day. I thank you for the opportunity 1203 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 3: to pray over this, and I pray in Jesus' name 1204 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 3: that it prospers in Jesus name. 1205 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 4: Amen. 1206 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: Hey, I love y'all man so much. Man, wake that 1207 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,240 Speaker 1: ass up in the morning breakfast club.