1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: It's hard to bring back the same band when they 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: are twelve and twenty seven, but I think you know, 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: they have that stretch fresh in their minds and fans 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: because it's the same team, just assume that this is 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: a carryover from last year. 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: Well, we've got Dan Hayes joining us right now covering 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: the Twins for the Athletic Dan. Great to have you on. 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: How would you describe the Minnesota Twins through their first 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: couple weeks of the season and reaction from the fan base. 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a rough eleven games in the last 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: three days, four days, whatever it's been. Have had some 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: of those games that have had just very difficult losses. 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Blowing the six run lead on Sunday at home against 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: the Astros, you have a series win lined up in 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: your home, first home series of the season, to blow 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: that was really rough, and then last night. You know, 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: one of the things that's really bugged them early on 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: this season is they just haven't had stability from their rotation. 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: And this is a very good rotation. 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: On pay paper, Fangrafts had it projected as the fifth 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: best rotation in baseball going in, and until last night 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: they had a six ninety Era for their first ten games, 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: and they haven't. I think they've had two guys go 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: into the sixth inning this season so far. And last 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: night Pablo Lopez was just he was matching Cole Reagan's 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, right and left. 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: He looked amazing, had a lot of swing and miss. 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: And then he gets the hamstring string, the mild hamstring 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: strand and the fifth in and it was just another 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: big blow that this team is facing no royce Lewis 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: early on and to lose the game they played, they 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: were in it the entire way. The eighth inning, you 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: get to the point where Carlos Korea is coming up 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: with first and third, one out, you look like you 35 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: have a shot at winning. 36 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: It's one to one, and he had. 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: Hit two doubles, which you know he had one double 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: coming in all season going into last yesterday, and hits 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: into a double play. Griffin Jackson comes in, gets a 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: pop out, gets Bobby White to hit a four hopper 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: to the mount and airmails at the first and wits 42 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: on third and Pascenttino just hits a little little number 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: up the first baseline and boom, you lose two to one. 44 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: So they have been hit in the face by the 45 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: shovel a few times. So far the snowshovel has been out, 46 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: and really it's been a tough eleven days. And you know, 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: fans came in angry anyways, that fans have not forgotten 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: last season's collapse. Fans want the team sail to be complete. 49 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: Attendance was down over that first three games, severely so 50 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: that fan anger was already or fan morale was already 51 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: pretty low. 52 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: And obviously it's not the kind of start they were 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: looking for. 54 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: Dan, we can't get you upgraded to a king bed 55 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: and wherever you are, because I mean, I mean. 56 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: I took I probably took a good deal, like but yes, 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: I was walked in the other day and was a 58 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: little surprised myself. 59 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 4: So I mean, you don't go to the front desk 60 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: and say, I'm Dan Hayes, I'm part of the athletic. 61 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: I can't get a king bed. I mean maybe being upgrade. 62 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to write about it. 63 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, nobody wants to hear about beat writers travel issues, 64 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: so they I get that stuff. 65 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: They wait real quick, there you go. 66 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: Hey, you guys were talking about NBAHM there for a minute. 67 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: I just wanted because Sahative is part of the network, 68 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to ring bring something back. About 69 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: seven years ago, you guys were talking about the I 70 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: have this. I don't know if it'll show up. 71 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: But yeah we can see higher there we go, Wait, Hi, 72 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: no high higher there there you go. 73 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: There that was Sahat was the Magic and I was 74 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: the Warriors. And that was at an arcade in Phoenix. 75 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: It was an adult arcade in Phoenix. 76 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: And uh. 77 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: To sixteen, I've never seen someone, a grown man cry 78 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: in public, but I I made cry and I want 79 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: that to be out on the internet. 80 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: Uh, like that was your's. I still so it's a 81 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: it's a highlight for me. But how bad? 82 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: First of all, before we're gonna get back to the twins, 83 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: but how bad were the magic they had Nick Anderson 84 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: to Scott Skyles. Not that Scott Skyles wasn't a great player. 85 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: He did set the assist record on my birthday one 86 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: year against the Nuggas. You had like forty. 87 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: Thirty. 88 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, crazy, But he was the fact that it 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: was Nick Anderson and Scott Skyles on NBA jam versus 90 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: anybody feels like that could be the score almost every time. 91 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what they were thinking when they 92 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: picked that team. 93 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: To be honest and being Chris Burton being physical was 94 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: was very fun. I think, I said, I think I 95 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: had a triple double as weber alone and blocks, assists, rebounds, 96 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: and I think I barely got the points. 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But you just look 124 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: at it as like Wallner is doing okay, but the 125 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 4: rest of the team, I mean Castro struggling, Larnick struggling, 126 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 4: all of them are struggling. Is it the weather or 127 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: is it something else that we're not looking at here? 128 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to say. 129 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: I was looking at it yesterday and the ops pluses 130 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: were like, I think Castro is above one hundred, I 131 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: think Warner was above one hundred. Everybody else, like Carlos 132 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: care was minus seven going into yesterday in a three 133 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: eighteen ops. He's had a little weird season because there's 134 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: been a lot of hard contact that found gloves early 135 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: on his exit velocity that first six games was up. 136 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: He started to dial in far more and you could 137 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: see it. Sunday, I think he had two walks in 138 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: the single and then his bad against Ersig late in 139 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: the game on Monday was fantastic. He struck out, but 140 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: it was a twelve pitch at bat and he was 141 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: just missing. And so last night, you know, he faces 142 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: Reagans and doubles to center and the first at batan 143 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: that's the only guy on the team. 144 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: They even came close to touching Reagan's. 145 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: And he had another double later, but then of course 146 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: the double playball in the key situation happened. And it 147 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: just feels like that's what's happened on the Twins so 148 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: far as you'll get individual moments, but nobody is stringing 149 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: hits together, and the offense is just They've had two 150 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: really beginnings, but overall the group hasn't been very good. 151 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: Missing Lewis hurts. You know, brooks Lee is on the 152 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: mend and they hope he can come up and hit, 153 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: and last year he didn't except for his first two weeks. 154 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: They really need things to go well, Harrison Vaders leads 155 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: the team in home runs and RBIs and he's been 156 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: batting ninth most of the time or eighth in the lineup. 157 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: So it just hasn't gone the way they want to. 158 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: They really worked on this to avoid it in spring training. 159 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: They put in a lot of different new tactics. Matt 160 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: Borkshualte's their new hitting coach. They the first two rounds 161 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: of batting practice this year were focused or all season 162 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: ends mandatory batting practice on the field for everybody, But 163 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: the first two rounds are focused on opposite way. Then 164 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: it's line drives for the third round, and then it's 165 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: kind of choose your own adventure in rounds four and five. 166 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: And so they really have tried to do something to 167 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: limit the fact where when they don't homer, they can 168 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: find ways to score, and so far that hasn't really matriculated. 169 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: But you know, for you guys that did floor to 170 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: spring training, you know that it's really hard to get 171 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: a ton of bats there. Like when you're in Fort Myers, 172 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: the nearest team is the Red Sox ten minutes away, 173 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: but then the next one is fifty minutes away, and 174 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, Arizona have like five teams within fifty minutes. 175 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: So to get fifty plate appearances out of veterans is 176 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: a really hard thing to do. The Twins had nine 177 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: guys out of there thirteen with fifty plate appearances. Everybody 178 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: played Carlos Carea is on the road, you know, an 179 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: hour north. Veterans don't typically do that, but Roco really 180 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: wanted them to be ready for the season and turn 181 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: it around. And you know last year there were seven 182 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: and thirteen over their first twenty. They wanted to avoid 183 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: that and they were hoping the offense could do that. 184 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: They got all their working. It just hasn't happened so far. 185 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 5: You said mandatory, BP, Is this like a revelation? Is 186 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 5: this like a rule on a team that didn't have rules? 187 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 5: Or I mean you brought it up, so I have 188 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 5: to ask, like, was it not mandatory before? 189 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: It wasn't. 190 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: So, Look, they talked a lot about how when COVID hit, 191 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of it was individual instruction. 192 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: Guys were basically it was you were. 193 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: Limited in twenty one to working with a coach at 194 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: the time, and so a lot of guys got used 195 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: to hitting indoors and they wouldn't necessarily Corella loves hitting indoors, 196 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: like most of his work would be in the cage, 197 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: and I think what they wanted to do was get 198 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: the team together more and you know, observing and talking, 199 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: hitting and more like a structured thing. So yeah, I think, 200 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: you know, in the past, you look at the Twins, 201 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: they've had a lot of veteran laden teams. Nelson Cruz 202 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: was was the guy from nineteen to twenty one, and 203 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: it was a veteran established team around them. Last year 204 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: they brought up a lot of younger guys, and I 205 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: think they wanted the older guys working more focused with 206 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: the younger guys just. 207 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: To keep things together. 208 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: And that part's been interesting because you know it's early 209 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: in the year, and yeah, no team is going to 210 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: get two demoralized over a rough start. But there's been 211 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: a ton of conversation in games where hitting has not 212 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: been there, and you see guys, you know, taking notes 213 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: and talking to each other and it's spirited conversation. They're 214 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: really into it. So I think in that regard, they 215 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: were looking to kind of keep the group together a 216 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: little more, and I think that's actually worked pretty well. 217 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: It's just the results haven't been there. But Yeah, absolutely, 218 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: they changed everything to mandatory. The pitchers talked about how 219 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: they didn't see the position players this year because usually 220 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: they were spread out over so many fields, working with 221 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: different coaches or in the cages and doing a lot 222 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: of individualized drills. And I think you know that that 223 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: just was sort of something that started with COVID and 224 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: the industry, Like Derek Falvey said, it's something that's happened 225 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: a lot in the industry. 226 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: They decided to take it the other way. 227 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: Matt borg SCHAALTI brought in some different ideas for what 228 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: had worked in Baltimore and wanted to kind of prove 229 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: it and see how it worked. And they're very satisfied 230 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: with that aspect it. Again, they just didn't expect to 231 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: be three and eight at this. 232 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 5: Point because of the lack of moves. This is essentially 233 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 5: the same roster from August tenth. Last year. August tenth, 234 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 5: this team was on its way to the playoffs. They 235 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 5: were going to battle with the Royals to figure out 236 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 5: who's going to win the Central what's changed, What's changed? 237 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 5: And I know sometimes different like players don't just fade 238 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 5: out or age out in you know, the last month 239 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 5: of a season. And then the beginning of another season. 240 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 5: But something has changed or did you see it coming 241 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 5: before August tenth. 242 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: No, you know, Joe Ryan got hurt on August eighth 243 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: last year, and on August seventeenth there were seventy and 244 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: fifty three. So Correa is down at that point already 245 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: with the planner fasciatus. He's actually looked great physically. You 246 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: can tell that that's not bothering him right now. Buxton 247 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: went down with a hip injury and missed twenty eight games. 248 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: So they were already up against it with pitching when 249 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: Joe Ryan went down, Like this was a team that 250 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: went in extremely thin and they're starting pitching. Last year, 251 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: Anthony di Scliffani was part of the plan. He got 252 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: hurt in spring training, never threw a pitch for them. 253 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: They were counting on Chris Paddock to throw like one 254 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: hundred innings last year, coming off of eighteen in his 255 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: first year back from Temmy his second Tommy John. He 256 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: was done by end of June, and then when Joe 257 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: Ryan goes down, basically it's Pablo Lopez, Bailey Ober and 258 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: three rookies who all hit their innings limits. You know, 259 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: early September and they were basically hoping to get five 260 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: innings out of David Festus, sim And Wood Richardson and 261 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: Zebbie Matthews, who had started last year in a ball 262 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: so they knew what they were up against. An injuries 263 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: just they sacked that team. I mean it was it 264 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: was obvious Bucks and Korea got back for the last 265 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: two weeks. It was just too late. A lot of 266 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: their young guys were in slumped and couldn't get out 267 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: of at Royce Lewis, you know, the last two hundred 268 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: played appearances, I think had it under five hundred ops. 269 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: He still ended up with like a seven to fifty 270 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: ops for the season. But you know, he had been 271 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: so incredible in June and July that I don't know, 272 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: it's it's strange. You can see the makings of a 273 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: decent team there. You know, ty France had a great 274 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: spring and has hit the ball hard early. He's provided 275 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: some steadiness, but it's it has not quite worked. And 276 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't expect Korea to be a three eighteen ops player. 277 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: You know, his worst April was like six thirty six. 278 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of area for him to go upward. 279 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: There's a lot for Buckston to go back up. I 280 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: don't you know this team is accustomed to rough starts, 281 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: being seven to thirteen last year. In their eleventh game 282 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: last year, they fell to four and seven. In that game, 283 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Korea has got an oblique injury and went on the il. 284 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: They were already down Royce Lewis, and then they rallied 285 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: and they had the twelve game winning streak and figured 286 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: it out and were seventy and fifty three. So I 287 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: think they can bounce back. The starting pitching just hasn't 288 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: been what they'd hoped so far. Joe Ryan, you can 289 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: tell that they are trying to ease him in after 290 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: last year's injury. Bailey Over got sick before his first start, 291 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: had something like flew like symptoms and lost eight pounds 292 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: and got rocked. 293 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: In Saint Louis. 294 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: And he's gained six of those eight pounds back, but 295 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: he only went four his last time out. And the 296 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: rotation and the bullpen are supposed to be a huge 297 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: part of this so far has not been. I don't 298 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: expect that to hold, even if you know Chris Paddock 299 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: has struggled. Even if they have to go to one 300 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: of Festa or Zebie Matthews if that's the case, eventually, 301 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: I think they have a lot more pitching depth that 302 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: they should be able to rely on and get them 303 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: back on track. The fact that they are sitting here 304 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: with four and two thre average Indians from their starting 305 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: rotation right now is kind of stunning because it was 306 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: clearly part of the plan to keep them afloat early 307 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: when the offense, you know, take its time to get 308 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: it get on track. 309 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: Dan, quick one for you here, because then I have 310 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: another one on a topic that I think is juicier. 311 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: But Susie has a question in the chat, said, can 312 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: you ask why Rocco brought in Duran to face the 313 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: bottom of the order and then Jacks to face the 314 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: heart of the order in the ninth I mean, it 315 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: looks like this year and going into you know, looking 316 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: at last year as well, that they look at Jacks 317 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: just as highly regarded as Duran and they pick a 318 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: lane in the lineup. 319 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: So that's the answer, right. 320 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: It is, And it's not anything that they've ever They've 321 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: always done this. They always have been matchup based. And 322 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure the relievers love that he because there's no 323 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: guy that gets thirty saves right and saves gets you paid. 324 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: But Griffin Jackson, they think very highly of him. I 325 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: think that last year Duran struggled, and Duran has been 326 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: throwing the ball well this year. But I think last 327 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: year Duran Jackson times surpassing me. He was two oh 328 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: three e ra A, seventy one innings, ninety five strikeouts. 329 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: He was the guy. His slider gets in on lefties. 330 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: He's dangerous. The damage that's been done on him so 331 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: far this years had been on fastballs. So and it was, 332 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, Sunday was two pitches. He gave up the 333 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: single and then the two run homer to Alvarez, who 334 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: did dominated with fastballs up in the zone all series. 335 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: And then Alvarez turned that one. 336 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: But that's typical and Duran, if he throws the way 337 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: he did Sunday, we'll see a lot more ninth innings. 338 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: In fact, last night they reversed the rules. 339 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: But it was Jack's getting the middle of the lineup 340 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: and the hardest part of the lineup. They just they 341 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: have a lot of trust in him, and they'll continue 342 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: to have trust in him. 343 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: So that's not atypical. They did it with Taylor Rodgers. 344 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: They've done it, you know with everybody over the last 345 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: couple of years, and it's all matchup based. 346 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: So let's finish with this, Dan. We can and I'm 347 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: talking we as in twins. Fans really can complain about 348 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: what happened last year, the twelve and twenty seven collapse, 349 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: I mean, right, and then years of staleness of nothingness 350 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: from the front office blaming ownership and they can't get 351 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: the team sold yet. Okay, we got all that. Let's 352 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: go one layer down, front office. If you're giving a 353 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: mandate on budget, why do you think they haven't gotten 354 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: a little more creative with at least trying to mix 355 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: and match. Like if it's me and I'm running a 356 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: team and I know I'm not. I'm looking at the 357 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: collapse last year and saying, got it, this is our 358 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: hard budget. We can't go off of this. 359 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 3: It is what it is. 360 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: Right now, I'm going to try and do some things 361 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: to switch it up. I'm going to do a trade 362 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: that either really will work or not. Do you think 363 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: that front offices in a state like this are scared 364 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: of losing on a trade because putting the same exact 365 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 2: team out there after that collapse, to me, was just 366 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 2: not a good message. And I feel like this happens 367 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: sometimes in baseball and it almost never produces a better result, 368 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: Like one of the worst collapses in the twenty first century, 369 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: What are they going to do about it? Roll out 370 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: the same roster. So did you ever get any answers 371 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: as to why they didn't do anything even to keep 372 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: the payroll in the same range. 373 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: I think they probably didn't get the value that they 374 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: were looking for. They're known as a tough team to 375 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: trade with, and I've heard that plenty, so I don't 376 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: know that they got the value. I'm sure they would 377 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: have entertained trading Joan Durant to somebody if they were 378 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: in the market for a good reliever. 379 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: They have a bunch of year three. 380 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: To six guys that are affordable and talented, so they 381 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: stuck with that group. And they tried to switch it 382 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: up by doing the mandatory stuff, and they really focus 383 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: on the picture or the position player side with that. 384 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: And you know, they brought in Harrison Bader, they brought 385 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: in Ty France, they made some moves on the edge. 386 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: They brought in Danny Kolom to fill the left handed 387 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: reliever role, and they added about fourteen million in payroll. 388 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: But they knew they were largely bringing back the same team, 389 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: and I agree it's hard to bring back the same 390 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 1: band when they are twelve and twenty seven. But I 391 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: think you know, they have that stretch fresh in their 392 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: minds and fans because it's the same team just assume 393 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: that this is a carryover for last year and it's 394 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: not a new team. 395 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: But what they looked at were the injuries. 396 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: And I don't know that you're gonna get value for 397 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: Royce Lewis, and you probably might have been trading him 398 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: at a low point last year because of the way 399 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: he struggled at the end and the fact that he's 400 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: missed games. So in some ways, you know, you look 401 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: at how the money is there. Carlos Korea takes up 402 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: a big chunky and Byron Buxton are accounting for fifty 403 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: million of a payroll that's like one forty one, and 404 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: so there's a little bit of a limited wiggle room. 405 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: But like if you trade Korea, right, and I know 406 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: that New York Post wrote about this a few times, 407 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: like that the Yankee should trade for Korea. 408 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: That that's interesting. 409 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: And yet if the Twins, they would have to have 410 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: absorbed Yankee contracts to make that work right, you would 411 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: have to take some bad Yankee contracts on why are 412 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: you get the value of Carlos Korea, who could be 413 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: a six war player if he's healthy, Like look at 414 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: last year, he's All Star three fifteen at the break, 415 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: fourteen homers, fifty RBIs. He was on pace for a 416 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: six war season. If you trade his thirty six million 417 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: and get it off the books, you're not getting the 418 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: sixth war back. You're getting, you know, a bad contract 419 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: and an older player, and then you have twenty million 420 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 1: to make up the rest of that. That's I don't 421 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: they're in a weird spot because of those big contracts 422 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: and they're never quite gonna get the value. I think, 423 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: so they were probably a little bit hamstrung. And again 424 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: they're they're notoriously difficult to trade with. So I'm not 425 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: shocked that they said we were injured and this is 426 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: what we're going to run back. We're going to change 427 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: things up and try to get better and keep the 428 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: group together a little bit more, because I think they 429 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: there were some fractures. You know, when we were here 430 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: last time in Kansas City and September, Rocco called out 431 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: the clubhouse for being unprofessional, and I think they really 432 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: tried to light a fire under their young guys in 433 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: the offseason. It's unfortunate Royce Lewis's out with another leg 434 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: injury to start the season. He's probably not back for 435 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: another three to four weeks. Brooks Lee's injury, they expected 436 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: him to be, you know, backup second base, back, shortstop, 437 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: even a lot of time at second base, and he's 438 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: getting closer, but he's two games in on his rehabs. 439 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: So it's always gonna be injuries with this team and 440 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: can they get through them? And so far those have 441 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: been you know, those have heard them a little bit 442 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: because the infield looks a little bit thin. Aside from 443 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: Carlos Correa and ty France right now, you've seen younger 444 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: guys struggle, and you know, they expected Lewis and Lee 445 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: to be part of that group so far, and it hasn't. 446 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 3: You know, they haven't been here. Well, I just want 447 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: to know this. 448 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 4: When they signed Carlos Carrea, what was the big thing? 449 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 4: They said, We're going to go around you, right and 450 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 4: but they haven't done that. So is is there anything 451 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: to like Carlos being like, maybe I am not that 452 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 4: excited about being here anymore, because wasn't that a thing, Like, 453 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 4: wasn't that a big thing when they signed Carlos, Hey, 454 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 4: We're going to surround you with players. In the last 455 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 4: couple of years, they haven't around. 456 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: They their their payroll in twenty twenty three was their 457 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: highest ever one hundred and fifty seven million, and they 458 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: were looking to keep go, keep going that direction. Fans 459 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: didn't respond to that team. They didn't draw two million fans. 460 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: They won the division, and teams typically get bumps after 461 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: they win the division by three hundred thousand fans. They 462 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: drew fewer fans last year. Now that was fans were 463 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: pretty angry about the thirty million dollar payroll cut. And 464 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: I think that you turned your fans off, honestly, you 465 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: know right now, the first three games they drew nine 466 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: thousand fewer fans than they did in the first three 467 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: last year. Well, last year, their Sunday game got rained 468 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: out and they had a Monday against the Dodgers with 469 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand on Sunday. This year they drew fourteen thousand fans. 470 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: That's just not great. Fans are kind of turning his 471 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: team out and waiting for a sale. And I think 472 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: that that's what's going to be the key. I think 473 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Korea probably. 474 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 4: Wait on has that gone away? 475 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 5: But has that gone away? 476 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: Dan? 477 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: The sale because about. 478 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 3: Its slow, it's a slow cooking it. 479 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: I think there is still interest, but this process, they 480 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: haven't taken them off the market, and you know, it's 481 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: definitely going slower than fans wanted. Fans wanted a new 482 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: owner in by opening day, it looked like that was 483 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: gonna be the case with Justin Nishbia. Then he decided 484 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: to increase his minority stake in the White Sox and 485 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: you know they are They didn't start from zero, but 486 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: they had to basically get everything aligned again and that 487 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: was you know, early February that we're talking about. So 488 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of fan resentment it's not going well 489 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: at the gate and the fact that they didn't when 490 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: they finally spent two years ago, they didn't get fans 491 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: out there. 492 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 3: I mean that was not a good sign. 493 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: When you know, increase your payroll that significantly and you 494 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: bring Korea back on the biggest contract in club history. 495 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, they blew it. They got a free vacation and 496 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: spent it on nothing. Dan, thank you for joining us. 497 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: Appreciate the time, always great insight, and we'll catch you 498 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: again too, Okay, all right, guys, thanks