1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Rob Thompson and welcome to The Philly Show. 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: Rubin Lamar Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z Lecky. It's the 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 2: Philly Show. It's Thursday, July third, twenty twenty five. Hope 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: everybody is doing just fantastic as we enter fourth of 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: July weekend. Guys, how are we doing? 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: I am terrific eager for some fireworks. 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a big fireworks guy. You got you You 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: go to a Costco by like the fifty pound box. 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Just I just. 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: You know, fireworks season. 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. But I was at I was at 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: Costco like last week, and they do have like these 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: fifty pound boxes like just of fireworks. And I told 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: my kids, I said, all right, help me load this 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: into the cart. And they're like really, I go, no, 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: we're not doing so. 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 4: Years ago the reason why I stay away from fireworks. 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 4: Years ago, we were in I think Eugene, Oregon, and 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: my dad was at the tail end of his career 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 4: trying to get back. I think it was like nineteen 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: seventy or seventy one. He was in Triple A with 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: the Phillies trying to get back. And my brother and 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: I go and play with some sparklers in this like 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 4: really really dry wheat field at summertime and basically created. 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 5: A fire in the neighborhood. 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: With this kid who I guess was like a misfit 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: and we were kind of hanging out with him, and 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 4: my mom like didn't want us to hang with him 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: a miscreant. 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: We literally created a fire. 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: Like it was like they had to come and the 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 4: fire trucks had to come and like douse the fire. 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 5: It was like a full like half city block or something. 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: I remember running across the street. 35 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 4: We couldn't stamp it out. 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: We couldn't. We could. 37 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 5: We were trying to step it out and we couldn't. 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: We ran across the street and would watch this fire 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: would like erupped across the street from us. 40 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 5: So I don't mess with firecrackers anymore, very. 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: Much, Dad. 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: That was only with like those twizzlers was what they 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: called sparklers. 44 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: Sparklers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, clown. 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 6: Show, those delinquent Tomorrow boys. 46 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 5: I mean that was five and it was seven, and 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 5: that's where it all began. 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, terrible. 49 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 5: My mom was beside herself, Oh I bet. 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I am also going to stay away from them. 51 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: Word of advice kids, Word of advice parents. The Phillies 52 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: won a three game series against the Padres. Just won 53 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: that three game series against the Padres split Wednesday's doubleheader. 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: They lost game one, they won Game two. Christopher Sanchez 55 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: just fantastic again in Game two. He allowed one run 56 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: in seven innings. Sanchez this season seven and two two 57 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: point sixty eight e RA, one point seven to six 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: e RA in his last six starts fitting right in 59 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: with Wheeler sworez Lozardo has been pretty good in his 60 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: last four two seven eight ERA in his last four. 61 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: But mcabel struggled in Game one, and that's where I 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: think we should start. It's time for the Parks First Pitch. 63 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 2: First Pitch is brought to us exclusively by our partners 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. Mckabele game one guys, 65 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: an inning and two thirds, two hits, five runs, five walks, 66 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: three strikeouts, struck out the first two batters you faced, 67 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: You're going, okay, here we go, and then it all 68 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: kind of fell apart on him. In the in the 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: second inning, walked four batters. In the second inning, walked 70 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: two consecutive batters with the bases loaded and then that 71 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: was over. There was the first time at Phillies starting 72 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: pitcher had walked consecutive batters with the bases loaded, believe 73 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: it or not, since Tyler Green in nineteen ninety eight. 74 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: My goodness, that was a long time ago. You know, 75 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: I thought it'd be like, you know, seven eight years ago. 76 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: But the last Phillies starting pitcher did it was last century. 77 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: That's how long ago it was. So Able is now 78 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: two and two with the five H four e RA 79 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: and six starts this season. But the troubling part, guys, 80 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: is that he's got an eight five six ERA in 81 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: his last four He's really struggled, and then you know, 82 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: kind of you know, what do you do now? 83 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 6: Well, that is the that's the interesting question. That's it's 84 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 6: not unusual for a young pitcher to struggle. They there 85 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 6: are you know, growing pains. There's a process to becoming 86 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 6: a major league pitcher. A solid major league picture. He's 87 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 6: got talent. He's had control issues in the minors, especiallylast year, 88 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 6: and they reared their head again on Wednesday in Game one. 89 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 6: I mean, he he could have been out of the 90 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 6: second inning. He had the number nine hitter, oh two 91 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 6: he lost him. 92 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: He ended up walking them. 93 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 6: He then he walks too with the base to load 94 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 6: the bases, or walks too with the bases loaded, and 95 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 6: has Manny Machado two can't put him away Machado bases 96 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 6: clearing doubles. So he hurt himself with the walks, the 97 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 6: inability to put hit his way, just the poor control. 98 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: JT. 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 6: Real Mudo after the game, you know, said he was 100 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 6: kind of all over the place. He couldn't control it 101 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 6: in out, up or down. So I don't think it's 102 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 6: unusual for a young guy to have growing pains, you know. 103 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: I think we need to be patient with him. 104 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 6: But is that patient's best practiced at Triple. 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: A or in the majors? 106 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 6: And if you're leaning toward its best practiced at Triple A, 107 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 6: it's because there's a replacement there, and Andrew Painter, and 108 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 6: they've been you know, we've been talking about Painters a 109 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 6: rival for two years. If he doesn't blow out his elbow, 110 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 6: he might be here two years ago, has the Tommy 111 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 6: John surgery. They take a very methodical approach with him, 112 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 6: bringing him back, building him up, and they point to 113 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 6: July ish a loose time frame. Well, we are in 114 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 6: the you know the middle of julyish, we are in July? 115 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: Is it time? 116 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 6: Well, recently they sort of tweaked their timetable on Painter, 117 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 6: saying he would stay at least through the All Star breaks, 118 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 6: so they give him a rest. I just wonder if 119 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 6: Mick Gables struggles. You don't want the kid to get buried. 120 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 6: If maybe they flip out him and Painter and bring 121 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 6: Painter before the All Star break like early next week 122 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 6: in San Francisco, like the exact series you and I 123 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 6: Todd were pointing to three months ago. So it's a 124 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 6: tough do you You know what happens to painters to 125 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 6: able confidence if you send them down. 126 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: Maybe if you show. 127 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 6: Give him a little show of faith, stick with Tuesday 128 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 6: Night in San Francisco. Maybe he says, my boss is 129 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 6: actually believing me. Pitches better, it helps his development. Maybe 130 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 6: you send him down because you think it's best for 131 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 6: his development and bring Painter. Do you run the play 132 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 6: that you wanted to run with Painter and keep him 133 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 6: there through the All Star break? Or do you modify 134 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 6: and get him here? And you know the whole rotation 135 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 6: is pitching so great? Maybe you can be patient and 136 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 6: run out Able one more time to me, it's a 137 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 6: fascinating call. Asked Rob about it yesterday and he said that, 138 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 6: you know, he believes that the plan is still to 139 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 6: keep Painter and Triple A through the All Star break. 140 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 6: Asked if there's any flexibility in that, he said he 141 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 6: didn't think so, but they're going to talk about it. 142 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 6: It's a game of adjustments, and sometimes you have to 143 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 6: adjust your plan. With players, there's a lot to unpack 144 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 6: their Reuben, You've unpacked this stuff many times in your career. 145 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 6: I remember your decisions on Aaron Nola wanted to bring him. 146 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 6: You were there with Ed Wade when you broke. You know, 147 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 6: had to decide about when to bring Cole Hamil's. It 148 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 6: ain't easy, you know, talk about tell us about how 149 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 6: difficult that decision is, and in particular, what would you 150 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 6: do in this case with Able and Painter. 151 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 4: It is a difficult, difficult decision. But I think you 152 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: got to think long term here. And I think there's 153 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: two things, two elements. One, Painter is not really dealing 154 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: and dominating the way you'd like him to. I think 155 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 4: I don't think he's quite sharp enough to bring him 156 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: into a situation in the major leagues until he's sharp 157 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 4: and right where he needs to be as far as 158 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: his overall development, because you don't want to bring painter 159 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 4: when he's not quote unquote ready mentally and physically. And 160 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: I would rather bring him and wait to bring him 161 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: so that when he comes, he stays that he's not 162 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: going anywhere. And I think that's that's an important decision here. 163 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 4: I also think there is some element and the way 164 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 4: Rob Thompson sort of. 165 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 5: Works is that he likes to leave guys with the. 166 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: Confidence and give them the confidence. I think that he 167 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: may very well and they may very well. As an organization, 168 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: give able another shot at this to to try to 169 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: write the ship a little bit and send him on 170 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 4: his way. Maybe get him four or five innings in 171 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 4: his next outing and get him out hopefully they're quality ones, 172 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 4: and then get him out and in the hopes that 173 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 4: he goes down with a positive attitude and something to 174 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 4: lean on when he goes back down to triple A. 175 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 5: So that's what I think that I would do if. 176 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: I was in this situation, I would allow him at 177 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 4: least one more start on the road to see if 178 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 4: he can sort of write the ship and bounce back 179 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 4: from that, and and and allow Andrew Painter to get 180 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 4: to the point where he is really pitching well so 181 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 4: that when he comes to the big leagues, he's confident, 182 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 4: uh in his stuff and his overall ability, and he's 183 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 4: hitting on all cylinders. That that's the decision I would 184 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 4: certainly make in this situation. I know it's I know 185 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: it's a you know, they're in an era right now 186 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: where it's about winning baseball games. But in this situation, 187 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: because of the quality of the other four starters, I 188 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 4: really believe that this is the right thing to do. 189 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: That's that's where I would go. 190 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 6: And quickly on quickly on Panter. He pitches Thursday night, 191 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 6: and I agree he is. He has not lit it 192 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 6: up in triple A. I have wandered aloud if he's 193 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 6: a little bored there inexcusable about human nature, and so 194 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 6: he pitches Thursday night. I wonder if this whole situation 195 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 6: even changes a little bit if he absolutely lights it 196 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 6: up Thursday night, for for Lehigh Valley, he would be 197 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 6: on turn to pitch Tuesday. 198 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: There is a lot here Tom. 199 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: There there there, so Tuesday would be able to start. 200 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: I guess he'd probably start Tuesday it's not the word. 201 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be the worst place for him to go and 202 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: make that last start before the break. You know, it's 203 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: San Francisco, great, great pitchers Park. The Giants offense is 204 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: not exactly lighting up. I think they're bottom ten in 205 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: baseball and runs per game, So it would kind of 206 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 2: set up nice to maybe be that confidence booster going 207 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: going into the break. But they I do wonder, Guys, 208 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: they're so they've been so careful with Painter, and they've 209 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: been very clear on the plan is not to bring 210 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: him up until after the break. We want him to 211 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: rest for the break. He made the Future Futures Game 212 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: NL ross not going to pitch in the in the 213 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: Futures game. But I wonder if they've community. I assume 214 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: they've communicated this plan to I'm like, listen, we're gonna 215 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: shut you down in the break. If you come up, 216 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: it's gonna be after the break. I wonder if they 217 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: just wanted him to stick to that plan, what would 218 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: it do to him. Maybe if they all of a 219 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: sudden they called him up today and they said listen. 220 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: But he'd still get the break if he comes Tuesday. 221 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 6: True, you can restructure, he'll get the break and then 222 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 6: you can pitch him fifth. Coming out of the break, 223 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 6: he could get a nice lengthy rest. So, uh, you know, 224 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 6: I don't know which way do you go? 225 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 226 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: Which way there? I'm telling what he told you. Which 227 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: way they're going? 228 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: You think they're going? Okay, I don't disagree. 229 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: What to do. 230 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 4: No, I listen, Honestly, I don't have any idea what 231 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: they're gonna do. 232 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: But that's what I would do, and that's what I 233 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: think that they will do. 234 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 6: And there's another factor here. There's another factor here. They 235 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 6: this is the month they're going to have to make 236 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 6: a trade to help that bullpen. Micky Abel could be 237 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 6: a trade ship. I don't personally think a bad start 238 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 6: really hurts his trade value. I think the baseball world 239 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 6: knows what he is. He's a talented guy. He's going 240 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 6: to need time, you know. I think if he was 241 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 6: out there dazzling, it might help his trade valve. But 242 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 6: I don't think his trade value gets overly diminished with 243 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 6: a young pitcher having a bad start. But that's another 244 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 6: factor in all this is the trade stuff. 245 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: You wouldn't you like him to go out on Tuesday 246 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: in San Francisco and throw up for five scoreless or 247 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: one run and go okay. That there is recency bias, right, Rubin. 248 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're scouting a guy, no, I mean, 249 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: I had no question. 250 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 4: It's about you know, it's a performance based I mean, 251 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: it's a performance based industry. 252 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 5: It's as simple as that. 253 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 4: And if a kid, you know, and again, I'm really 254 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: curious to see how he bounces back, and you find 255 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 4: out a lot about a kid after some of the struggles, 256 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 4: if he can get to the point where he can 257 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,239 Speaker 4: right the ship after a couple of tough outings. 258 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: Now, it's not an excuse. 259 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 4: He had eleven days off, he had a full warm 260 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 4: up on the road when he could not pitch here recently. 261 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: And that's a totally different. 262 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: Situation than he's ever been in before. And again, you know, 263 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: he's sitting there waiting around for ten or eleven days. 264 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's kind of tough. 265 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that go through your mind 266 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 4: as a rookie, especially when you're coming off a really 267 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: terrible start against the Mets, and he's got that in 268 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 4: his head. That's just human nature. It's not an excuse. 269 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 4: It's just something that's different he's never gone through it. 270 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: Maybe he gets back on rotation this next time through 271 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: and bounces back and you find out a lot about 272 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: the young man. 273 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the psychology of it all to me is fascinating. 274 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 6: You send him out after a bad start, It's like, 275 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 6: you know what's he thinking? You know his confidence is down, 276 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 6: he's a little crestfallen. My people don't believe in me. 277 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 6: You stick with him, maybe you build it up and 278 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 6: he bounces back, and then you know, you could also 279 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 6: send him down and say, look, we're short in a bullpen. 280 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: We think your stuff might play there. We want to 281 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: start transitioning you there. Take a look at you your. 282 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 6: Starter long term, but you might be able to help 283 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 6: us here in twenty five in the bullpen. It's just 284 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 6: I can only imagine those conversations must be very extensive 285 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 6: on the executive level of citizens back park. 286 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so hey, that's. 287 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 6: Been first pitch presented exclusively by our partners at Parks Casino, 288 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 6: Pennsylvania's number one casino Parkscasino dot com. You must be 289 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 6: twenty one years old. Gambling problem called one eight hundred Gambler. 290 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: Phillies and Reds have a three game series this weekend 291 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: at Citizens Bank Park. If you can't get down to 292 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: the ballpark, come by Delco, Come by my neck of 293 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: the woods. Delco. People say that Delco is a lot, 294 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: and they're right. We have a lot of everything. Family fun, festivals, 295 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: great restaurants and bars, gardens, history, trails and outdoor activities. 296 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: Take it from me, Delco Dad, and check it out 297 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: for yourself. So we just did this last Saturday night 298 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: the Rosetree Park Summer Festival in media This Saturday is 299 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: two Polo Honey Saturday, July fifth, featuring the music of 300 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: Van Morrison. Sunday July six, it's the Blackbird Society Orchestra. 301 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: Plus visit Delco for complete listing of the county's amazing 302 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: parades and fireworks displays to celebrate the Fourth of July 303 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: all weekend long long. Find a full list of events 304 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: at visit Delco dot com. They say Delcos a lot, 305 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: and they're right. Yeah. Last Saturday, we saw the cover 306 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: Band Class of nineteen eighty four at Rose Tree Park. 307 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: And I always try to, you know, educate my kids 308 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: on the music that I grew up with, and so 309 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: they actually had those songs. They heard Sweet Dreams by 310 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: the Rhythmics and like they looked at me like I 311 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: know this song. I'm like, yes, you do, Yes, you 312 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: do nice, trying to educate them, you know, a little prince, 313 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: keep it alive, keep it exactly right. I got my Prince, 314 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: I got my Prince. Mug here nast Love and Purple Rainy. 315 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: So they heard some Prince songs like I know. 316 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 5: This one of my favorite all time movies and artists. 317 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: Great, great, yeah, great movie baby yeah yeah. So fireworks 318 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: this weekend as well. Will be going to the Roomball 319 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: Parade for the July Parade on the fourth of July 320 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: on Friday. So a lot of great stuff going on 321 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: in Delco, so check it out. Brandon Marsh homered yesterday 322 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: on Wednesday in the doubleheader against the Podres and he's 323 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: a little interesting figure as the trade deadline approaches. Now, 324 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 2: remember remember where we were in mid April. Brandon Marsh, 325 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was this bad. But before he 326 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: got hurt, he was batting oh ninety seven on April sixteenth, 327 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: oh ninety seven, one home run, five RBIs at three 328 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: eighty seven ops. He goes on the injured list, comes 329 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: back on May fifth. Here's what Brandon Marsh is hitting 330 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: since May fifth, three point fifteen ten doubles, one triple, 331 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: two home runs fifteen RBIs at three seventy two on 332 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: base percentage eight twenty six ops. That's an interesting development 333 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: as we talk about the production in the outfield, you know, 334 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: what do they do and left do they find somebody 335 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: to you know, is it Otto Camp and Max Kepler 336 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: and left field? You know, did they just go with 337 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: Brandon Marsh in center field? Brandon Marsh guys is kind 338 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 2: of making a maybe making things a little bit more 339 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: interesting in terms of how the front office views the 340 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: trade deadline and maybe kind of like the moving pieces 341 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: into you know, how they maybe assemble this roster. 342 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 343 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 6: I wonder if it's really changing their view of the 344 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 6: trade deadline though, because I still think bullpen is their 345 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 6: priority and they view outfield as something they'd like to address, 346 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 6: but number two on their list of priorities and maybe 347 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 6: more of a marginal guy, And so I don't know, 348 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 6: maybe Ruben sees it differently. 349 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 4: I do not see it differently. I listen, I was 350 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 4: the first person to say that at some point. I 351 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 4: think we talked about it on the podcast. Another couple 352 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 4: of weeks. 353 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 5: And find out whether Mars can really even do anything 354 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 5: because he. 355 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 4: Was struggling and he has picked it up and he's you, 356 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: I mean, he's always had ability. 357 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 5: It's but you gotta you sort of have to perform. 358 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 4: I mean, this is the major leagues. For a team 359 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 4: that's contending, you got to perform. And he started to perform, 360 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: and he's done some things lately. Hit his third home 361 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: run last night. It's nice to see Kepler ad to 362 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 4: to the mix a little bit too. He's he's been 363 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 4: hitting the ball well, he's been robbed a few times 364 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: of some homers. You know, it's starting to percolate a 365 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 4: little bit. And and I think that had and as 366 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: we get closer and closer to the trade deadline, that's 367 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 4: why you sort of have to be patient in some 368 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: ways to let these guys sort of get their act together. 369 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 4: There's a whole half of a season left in eighty 370 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: freaking games, and so I mean they can There's a 371 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 4: lot of damage that can be done and a lot 372 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: of improvement that could be done and hopefully that's what 373 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 4: they get out of and Marsh and Uh, I just 374 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: feel like it's going to be all the way up 375 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: until the trade deadline on July thirty first, or whatever 376 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 4: it is on that date that you're going to start 377 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 4: seeing that you're going to see some action. And honestly, yes, 378 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: it'd be great to have another bat, but it's the 379 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 4: bullpen that needs the real address. And uh, and the 380 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 4: fact that Otto Kemp his A bats have. 381 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: Been really good, really good. 382 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 4: Are you going to get a better right handed bat 383 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: than Auto Kemp out there? The way he's approaching things, 384 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe you can maybe with a little 385 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 4: bit more power perhaps, but this is a guy who 386 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 4: has quality at bats. I've been impressed by the way 387 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 4: he's going about it. Hit a couple of balls on 388 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 4: the screws yesterday and as a p overall approach is strong. 389 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 4: I like a lot of things that are going on 390 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 4: in that starting to go in a positive direction in 391 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: that outfield you are. 392 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: You mentioned Otto Camp. 393 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 6: I'm very intrigued about seeing him in a platoon with 394 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 6: Max keplerin left field. You also mentioned the P word patients. 395 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 4: Uh. 396 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 6: It used to be a thing in baseball. It's it's 397 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 6: it's vanished because as a sporting society, fan, base media, 398 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 6: even probably in some cases some front offices, we view 399 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 6: everything through through an NFL prism. We go crazy over 400 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 6: one game one week, and that's just not the way 401 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 6: baseball works. Sometimes it's about, you know, giving a guy 402 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 6: a run. Sometimes you have to exercise patients in this game. 403 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 6: I mean, there is urgency, uh and it needs but 404 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 6: it has to be balanced with patients. And maybe Marsh 405 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 6: is an example of that, because, as you mentioned, Todd, 406 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 6: those numbers are good. I was listening to his postgame 407 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 6: interview last night on the radio with Scott fran and 408 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 6: it was really I thought it was thoughtful. I thought 409 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 6: he did a great job on the interview. He was 410 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 6: very personable, he really opened up, and you know, those 411 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 6: are the type of interviews where fans can connect with you, 412 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 6: and I think that's really important. But one thing he 413 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 6: said was when he went out on rehab to Lehigh Valley, 414 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 6: it was like almost like a rehab for everything, not 415 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 6: just him his body, not just a physical rehab. It 416 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 6: was a mental rehab, like a spiritual rehab, was a 417 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 6: rehab for his soul. So what he's saying is it 418 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 6: was kind of a reset and he's come back and 419 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 6: done a really good job since then. 420 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask Ruben, since you coach base 421 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: running we asked. Marshall was asked after game two about 422 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: that base running play that almost ended game one, and 423 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was right or anything, but he 424 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: did at least have a thought process here. And did 425 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: you I don't know, Ruben, did you hear what he 426 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: had to say? 427 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 4: Oh? 428 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: I heard everything he said. You hear what he said? 429 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: So when it happened, I thought it was like, what 430 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: is this guy doing? Is he just like I'm just 431 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 2: gonna do I'm gonna be aggressive. I you know, when 432 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: he was asked about it after game two, I thought 433 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: he was going to say, honestly, I just got I 434 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 2: just got too aggressive. I wasn't thinking out there. He 435 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: actually did have a thought process, I guess, which is 436 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was right or anything, but ye 437 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: had four hours to think of it too. 438 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: That's that's correct. 439 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 2: But he but he said his answer was I did 440 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: not think my run mattered or my run did not matter. 441 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: And I assumed that they knew that my run did 442 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: not matter. So when the ball was hit to left 443 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: center field center field, I just assume maryl was going 444 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: to throw the ball back into second base. I'm not 445 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: saying it was right. 446 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: But that was his explanation. 447 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 4: So he answered the question as to what whether that 448 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 4: decision was smart or not by saying that run did 449 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 4: not matter because his run didn't matter, and that's why 450 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 4: you don't risk getting thrown out at third base in 451 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: that situation. Right, that's as simple as that. Now he 452 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: may have been thinking about thinking that when he was 453 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 4: in the outfield. It was not a good decision. I 454 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 4: don't care what we can talk this to that, to 455 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 4: the high heavens, but it was. 456 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: A poor decision. 457 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 5: He got lucky as hell, And those. 458 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 4: Are the kinds of things that you cannot do if 459 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 4: you want to win them championships, because if you get 460 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: thrown out there and you lose the game, that's the 461 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: end of the World Series. 462 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 6: Then they didn't hold on Turner. They essentially give him 463 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 6: second base. That was an equally dumb play. 464 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 5: But I don't really understand any of that. 465 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. 466 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 3: This Jackson Merrill. 467 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 6: He brings middle of the infield athleticism to center field. 468 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 4: He's terrific, and he's having a struggle bit of a 469 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 4: struggle offensively lately. And I don't like the whole demeanor 470 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 4: of that ball club. 471 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: It looks like a losing team right now. They look, 472 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: they look. 473 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: They don't run down the line, they don't hustle it. 474 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: It is. 475 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 4: It is a little bit of an embarrassment for me 476 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 4: to watch it. And I was screaming it, uh tatis 477 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 4: like a couple of times, like dude, at least. 478 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: Get your ass down the line. 479 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: And I know when he busted it the one time 480 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 4: he had a chance to get a base hit, which 481 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: he did, but then you got to run down the line. 482 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 4: I mean, give yourself a little bit of effort just 483 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: in case something happens. People make mistakes, and there was 484 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: a dive play that Trey Turner made and he literally 485 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: did not run down the line. I mean, you don't 486 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 4: run down the line. And you hit the ball to 487 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 4: the pool side, in particular as a right hander, and 488 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: you don't run down the line. I don't have time 489 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: for that shit. 490 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: It really did jump out. And I'm not one of 491 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: these guys that you know, you have to chase Utley 492 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: it down the line every single time. 493 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: I'm not. 494 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: I'm not one of those guys. Remember we had Jeff 495 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 2: frank Korn last summer. He's like Chase Utley, I think 496 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: is the only guy I've ever seen bust his ass 497 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: on the first base on literally every single time. 498 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: Every time. 499 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not one of those guys I see, 500 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: like conservative yourself a little bit every once in a while. 501 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: But it really did jump out at me this week. 502 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 2: The way the padres almost it seemed like just didn't 503 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: didn't even kind of give, like the not running full 504 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: speed but kind of running full speed effort. 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And if 540 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 4: you have a gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler. 541 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper played Game one on Wednesday, did not play 542 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: Game two, and every was like, oh, oh, here we go. Now. 543 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: This is what Rob Thompson said after the game, and I, 544 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 2: you know, no reason not to believe it. I guess 545 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: he said he decided he talked with Bryce, felt fine, 546 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: but he didn't want to get him hot and then 547 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: cool him down and then heat him up again. So 548 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to mention that you guys have any washes 549 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: with you guys right, Well, I guess we'll find out 550 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: it is what it is. 551 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't want to have ten at bats. 552 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's as simple as that. 553 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I thought I thought he might play both 554 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 4: games just to you know, try to get his timing 555 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 4: right stuff like that. But hey, I got no problem 556 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: with it. They're trying to It's a long term process. 557 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 4: They got to save him for a long he's gotta 558 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 4: he's got to play all the way throughout November hopefully. 559 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 5: And uh, and so I got no problem with that. 560 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm gonna you know how I talked about, 561 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 6: you gonna have patients in this game, and you can't 562 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 6: view everything through an NFL prism. I'm gonna view it 563 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 6: through an NFL prism. They won the game, I have 564 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 6: no problem with it. If they lost, I might have 565 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 6: a problem with it. 566 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: Had a baby. 567 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 5: That's the Philly that's the Philly way. 568 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: I know, you're I know, you're you know, you come 569 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: from Rhode Island. But that's a Philly thought process. 570 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: So if they would have lost game to him and swept, 571 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: you would have been going, why are they playing Harper? 572 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, I'm screaming about it. 573 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: That great. 574 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: Uh. 575 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: Sunday Sunday, the Philly Sunday. Major League Baseball is going 576 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: to announce the All Star reserves and uh. Last night 577 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 2: after Game two, Rob Thompson was asked about, you know, 578 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: how many All Stars do you think could get in 579 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: this rotation? And he's honestly, could really really have anybody, 580 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: And everybody's like, I know, we're not going to have everybody, 581 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: but he's like, you know, you can make I think 582 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: Wheeler's a lock, right. 583 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: Wheelers a lock, and Suarez should be a lock. But 584 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: you don't know. 585 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 4: And I think Christopher Sanchez and certainly I mean has 586 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: jus Osardo. You sort of have to think that he's 587 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: a possibility to you take away one or two of 588 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: those starts, and my goodness, his numbers are ridiculous. I mean, 589 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 4: and listen, this is one of the best teams in 590 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: the National League. It's the second best record in the 591 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 4: National League, right behind the Dodgers their first place. I mean, 592 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: they deserve to have more more players than other teams. 593 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. 594 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: I think Trey Turner should be on the team. I 595 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 4: think Schwarber should be on the team. And I think 596 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 4: four starters have a chance to be in the team, 597 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 4: and at least three right. 598 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: That's me. 599 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Turner for sure, Schwarber for sure. I 600 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: think you should be on there. 601 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: Now. 602 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: Raphael Devers comes over from the Reds. I don't know 603 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: how many DH type guys are going to take. You know, 604 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: you know, Toni's gonna make it. Devers I think will 605 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: make it. 606 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: You think will make it. 607 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: Well he was. 608 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: I really don't. 609 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: Well, you know what you know. It's interesting though, is 610 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: when he got traded, so he was he was leading 611 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: the AL vote at d H when he got traded, 612 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: and then I mean Major League Baseball immediately put him 613 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: into the NL vote and he moved into second place 614 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: and bumped out Schwarber from being one of the two finalists. 615 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: So that's the only reason why I say that Devers 616 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: has a chance. But you're. 617 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: Effective as he has struggled. 618 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: He has struggled since he got over to Sam come on, yeah, no, 619 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: but I agree like Schwarber to me, is on there 620 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: Wheeler and then I don't think Lozzardo is gonna make it. 621 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: I think you can make an argument for sure. And 622 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: then swore as Sanchez. It will be interesting to see, 623 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: like do they go with Sanchez has got a bigger 624 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: body of work. Has missed some time, really, but man 625 00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: has been. 626 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: Unbelievable's been the best and he was was just like 627 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 4: that in the very beginning of the season last Year's 628 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 4: not like he's pretty famous. 629 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: It's not like he's not famous, no doubt about that. 630 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: Reds so Red's in town fourth of July one oh 631 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 2: five game on on the fourth of July. So one 632 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: o five game, no fireworks. They had fireworks the past 633 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: couple of nights. Andrew Abbott for the Reds. He's probably 634 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: he's an All Star. He's seven and one, seven niney 635 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: ra Andrew Abbot Deally my Lord against Jesus Lozardo seven 636 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: and four, four oh six Area. But he's pitched a 637 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: lot better than his last four starts a year. Andrew 638 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: three Saturday four oh five start Nick Lodolo against Rangers 639 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: Suarez and then Sunday's series finale Chase Burns against Zach Wheeler. 640 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 6: So that'll be interesting. Burns how to really struggle up 641 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 6: at Fenway the other night. But obviously he's a you know, 642 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 6: big draft pick and a big prospect you talk about 643 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 6: all the time. How does a guy bounce back? We'll 644 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 6: see it from you know, on the other team Sunday. 645 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: Cincinnati good ball club. 646 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 4: But Tito's Tito's got them going. 647 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: It will be fun to watch too. I mean, it's 648 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: one of the more exciting players you can watch and 649 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball. 650 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: You mean you mean Elie de la cruz Eli. 651 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, what did I say, Ellie? 652 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 5: They said, They said, O'Neill cruise, Ellie d. 653 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: But he's also exciting. 654 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they both hit the ball home. 655 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: Not as exciting as Ellie for me. 656 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 5: Ellie, Yeah, Eli, I like Ellie a little bit more 657 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 5: more than I like O'Neal. 658 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: I will tell you that I think a lot of 659 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: people would. 660 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would. 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