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Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three

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Speaker 1: and Out podcast. How are we doing? Hopefully everyone's having

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Speaker 1: a good food Gazi Friday. We'll just dive right into it.

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Speaker 1: You guys know the drill. Subscribe to the podcast if

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Speaker 1: you listen on Collins Feed also Netflix. We are rocking Unrolling.

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Speaker 1: All of our videos are up there. We talked to

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson yesterday. We talked to Kendrick Bourne yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: listened to the audio. Wasn't great. My bad, not that

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Speaker 1: I had anything to do with it, but hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: not pointing the finger. It's no one's fault. It just

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Speaker 1: kind of is what it is in those situations. As

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Speaker 1: you can tell my voice, you know, just holding on.

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Speaker 1: I don't you know, I'm forty now. I'm not quite

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Speaker 1: throwing at the same speed I once was. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say I hit the town last night, but definitely enjoyed

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Speaker 1: myself for the first time in a long time and

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Speaker 1: made an executive decision. It could have got crazy. Last year,

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Speaker 1: I went with the kind of some of the iHeart

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Speaker 1: crew to the We went to the Volume party and

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Speaker 1: then the after party was Club Shashay, which is basically

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Speaker 1: some version of like techmobile. Every famous player from like

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two meets like Madden two thousand and one.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a trip. And they all went and they

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Speaker 1: were begging me to go, and I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I was showed maturity. I did not go. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: I didn't miss out. I haven't texted anyone because last

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Speaker 1: year it was in New Orleans. It was an incredible experience.

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Speaker 1: So from Steven A to Michael Irvin to Timber I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you every player that was good in the

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Speaker 1: college years. So yeah, I mean, now we got the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, and uh, that's what we're gonna do today.

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Speaker 1: I'll give some thoughts on the Super Bowl. Is Fugazi Friday,

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Speaker 1: and I got a couple of fugazis that are just

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Speaker 1: football related that made me shake my head. And we'll

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Speaker 1: bang out a little mail bag as well at John Middlecoff.

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Speaker 1: At John Middlecoff, I didn't sleep that much last couple

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Speaker 1: of days. My voice is I wouldn't say gone hanging

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Speaker 1: podcast after the super Bowl. All signs point to Drake

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Speaker 1: May said today he was healthy. Emon Worry who got

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Speaker 1: injured at practice and there was some video of him

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Speaker 1: walking to the hotel limping around, claimed he'll be good

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Speaker 1: to go. Definitely something to monitor though. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: really takes every defense to another level. He's Mike McDonald's

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton of this team. I'm not saying he's just good,

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Speaker 1: think the coolest part about the Super Bowl is the

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Speaker 1: the Sam donald storyline really is what everyone's talking about.

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Speaker 1: It has like a human interest story type vibe to it, Like,

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Speaker 1: be like, I hate Sam Donald, loser, can't wait to

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Speaker 1: root against him, And that's kind of sports, right. Bring

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Speaker 1: that I'd love to get John Schneider on the show again.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan, and I think it'd be cool

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Speaker 1: his career pivoted, when he became a backup for Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: It's not like they gave him one year twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Sam Darmold. He was not, relative to NFL terms, that

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Speaker 1: as a player. Top top that baby. Not many people can't. Like,

426
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: look at the best coaches in the NFL right now,

427
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: most of them did not play. Andy Reidon didn't play

428
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL. John Baton didn't play in the NFL.

429
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: McVay Kyle didn't sniff the NFL. There's nothing wrong with that.

430
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: Most people don't. But he just to have that many

431
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: rings on a dynasty and then just do it as

432
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: a coach, It's it's pretty unique. And obviously you know

433
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: Craft's legacy to the move he made. Now, I did

434
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: see him make the comment that when he fired Mayo

435
00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: it was very cost intense to fire everybody. It's like Robert,

436
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, Mail's making six seven million dollars, you're

437
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: paying some assistance a combined three or four million dollars

438
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: to go a wait, that's that's a rounding error to you, man,

439
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 1: It does not matter at all. So I just think

440
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: when you look at Robert Kraft, you know him and

441
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: Belichick of Ben at odds right, and the documentary that

442
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: came out on Apple was pretty embarrassing. Yeah, I thought

443
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: it was kind of unneeded. It was almost a campaign

444
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: for Robert, Like Robert, you don't need to My dad

445
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: always tried to teach me this, And I wasn't like

446
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: a cocky kid and tell you how great I was something,

447
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: because I wasn't that great at most things. But whenever

448
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: my friends or people I knew would be big talkers,

449
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: it'd be like, that's not the way to do it.

450
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: Show them with your actions, like keep your mouth shut

451
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: and go and go dominate and go win and go

452
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: be successful at whatever you're doing, right, And that was

453
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: kind of a different generation. I mean, now we show

454
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: you everything we do on social media. But my point

455
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: is that Craft didn't need to do any of that.

456
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 1: Like his resume speaks for itself. And now he's got

457
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: like icing on the cake with this Vrabel Drake May operation,

458
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: which is going nowhere. I mean, they're going into next year.

459
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: They will be definitely one of the favorites to win

460
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl again, I would guess win or lose

461
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: this game. They are a top five gambling odds to

462
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl in twenty twenty seven to you know,

463
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: the twenty sixth season, and then you know, in February

464
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty seven, I think the game's in La

465
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: So and there's a story that you know, Jay Glazier

466
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: said that Max Crosby's done with the Raiders after that

467
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: situation where they wouldn't let him play. Diana Russini said

468
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: that he's going to be hell bent on trying to

469
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: get to Mike Vrabel. What if I tell you they've

470
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: added Max Crosby this offseason for like a one and

471
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: two twos, all of a sudden, Max Crosby's on the

472
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. You gonna like him more than I would.

473
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just think that this I do get.

474
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: And I was around at the Volume party. We got

475
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: so many people from Boston. I mean a lot of

476
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: our sales crew came from Barstool, So there is a

477
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: large contingent of Boston people. Collins, main guy who runs

478
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: this entire operation, Jamie Horowitz, the Boston guy, if talking

479
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: to him like he's going to the game. You know,

480
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: it's just Boston's loud and proud and they're kind of

481
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: cocky because they should because their team fucking goes all

482
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: the time, and if they win this game, they are

483
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: going to be it's gonna be tough, you know. And

484
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: I get it. If I was a diehard fan and

485
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: my team always had this much success, I'd probably be

486
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: cocky too, you know. I mean I was around when

487
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: I was young. Every single person I knew walked around

488
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: high school or junior high with a forty nine or

489
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: year one all the time. You just expected them to

490
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: be in this And especially when I was in like,

491
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 1: you know, elementary school in junior high, I mean, they

492
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: were thirteen fourteen wins every single season. So you start

493
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: having that type success, it builds a false sense of

494
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: like kind of easy, and you would have been like, oh,

495
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots are kind of dead, and now you look

496
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: up and they're in the super Bowl. And Robert Kraft

497
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: who got denied for the Hall of Fame with Bill,

498
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: which I think next year there's a chance that it's Bill,

499
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: it's Robert, and it's Tom. I could be wrong, but

500
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Tom's going to be eligible next year.

501
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: And I think it'd be pretty stunning if Bill and

502
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: Craft don't get in, So it could be the Hall

503
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: of Fame next year. Could be like an entire Patriots celebration,

504
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: which feels if I was a betting man, I would

505
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: guess that happens. I like Seattle in this game. But

506
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: as I've said over and over, I do not feel

507
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: great about it, simply because the Patriot's biggest advantage is

508
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: their coaching. Stucky talked about this Vabels in game adjustments.

509
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: His understanding of the rules is Belichickian and what he did.

510
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's a great example. He's like, hey, we went

511
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: for it because we got the look we wanted. They

512
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: just didn't run the same play. Well, no shit, he's

513
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been part of some of the great

514
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: defensive game plans in the history of the league. Of

515
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: course he didn't run the same play. Mike Grabels smart. Oh.

516
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: They also have an offensive coordinators coach like fifty playoff

517
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: games including I think this is I think this is

518
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel's ninth Super Bowl as a Patriot assistant coach.

519
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: Ninth Super Bowl. Think about that, I mean, how do

520
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: you match that? How do you match that type experience?

521
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: You know, you simply do not. So couldn't be his

522
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: ninth Super Bowl because they only want Yeah, I guess

523
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: they lost a couple, but he would have not been

524
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: there seven. Maybe they went to nine. This would be his.

525
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: Now I'm confused because I heard someone say nine, but

526
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: is eight. He's been to a lot. He's been to

527
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: a lot, which is hell. He's been to more Super

528
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: Bowls just in the NFL than Vrabel has, so that

529
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: the experience factor is massive on the side of New England.

530
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: And to me that matters because these aren't just random coaches.

531
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: I think the combination of Rabel and Josh's elite, and

532
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: anytime you get a defensive kind of guy with an

533
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: elite offensive coordinator like that is a valuable, valuable skill,

534
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: And I think the reason people question it sometimes is

535
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: you think the offensive coordinator is gonna leave, right. Look,

536
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak, Sam Darnold have successes, he gets the Raiders' job, Well,

537
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: who's gonna hire Josh McDaniels. You could argue he's not

538
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: really hirable as a head coach, so they don't really

539
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: need to worry about that. He probably could just coach

540
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: out his career working for Rabel and be there for years. Now,

541
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: things change, big egos, money. You never just say it's

542
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: inevitable He's gonna be there for a deck a lock

543
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: and change at a moment's notice. Losing can expose personalities,

544
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: but I would bet on him being there for the

545
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: foreseeable future. A couple of Fugazi Fridays that are are

546
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: football related, and I'm gonna start with Tom. That'd be

547
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, who he has improved dramatically on the microphone

548
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: I got last year, which you could say it's unfair

549
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: of his first year, Well you can paid thirty seven

550
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: million dollars. My expectations are pretty high, and I'm a

551
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: professional football watcher, so I got a pretty good feel

552
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: for what's good and bad, and I think we all

553
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: agreed like it. It was rough, and totally understand learn

554
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: by doing you get better with experience. I get that,

555
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: But like he just got thrown on the A team

556
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: and we had to watch it, and it was it

557
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: was a roller coast. This year much smoother. He's clearly

558
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: more comfortable. We've got a better vibe of like, more normal,

559
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 1: relatable Tom. He's been really good. But part of having

560
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: and anyone listening to this knows if you have you

561
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: know you're a Packer fan, you're an Eagle fan, you're

562
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: a Niner fan, you're whoever the Cowboys. When your prominent

563
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: former players who are older and retired support you, it

564
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: really indebts them to the fans and they become they

565
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: feel like a huge part of the community years after

566
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: they're gone. Right, Like it works in college too, Like

567
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: the Pride and Michael Irvin and Ray Lewis and all

568
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: those guys have in Miami. I see it with the

569
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, the Pride, Ronnie Lott and Steve Young

570
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: and Brent Jones and Joe Montana taken the forty nine Ers.

571
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: That means something to the fan base, and it's all

572
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: around the hell. Even Aaron Rogers he left the Packers,

573
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: He's like he always said, like I'm really rooting for

574
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, I'm rooting for Matt Lafloria. I really like

575
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: and care about those guys. It's like, Okay, at least

576
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: it meant something to you, besid, like you're just doing

577
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: this for a job because you're getting paid a bunch

578
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: of money and no player. I mean, look at Peyton

579
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: Manning played for Denver for four years. Every time I

580
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: look he's at a Denver Bronco game, it feels like

581
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: he kicked the Colts to the curb and just put

582
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: all his tips in the middle of the table in

583
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Now the Colts, like Pat McAfee became

584
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: a rock star in terms of the media landscape, and

585
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: he's always at the Colts game. He plays a huge

586
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: role of like supporting that franchise, and that means something

587
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: to the people because you become embedded in that community.

588
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: When me and Jackson went to the thing on the

589
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine Champions thing with Chris Berman, Joe Montana,

590
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott, John Taylor, Harris Barton, Joe Montana had a

591
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: great quote. He's like, let's face it, all five of

592
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: up here could live anywhere in America, Like, we don't

593
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: have to live here, but because of these people and

594
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: the support we've gotten for forty plus years, we choose

595
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: to stay here. And when Tom Brady, who is known

596
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: as the greatest player in the history of football and

597
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: is synonymous with the New England Patriots, has a statute,

598
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: calls like Robert Kraft a father figure came out immediately

599
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: when Bill Belichick was snubbed, feels like Edelman and Gronkowski

600
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 1: like brothers to him. Still feels really close to Rabel,

601
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: just like interwoven in the fabric of Boston sports. Is

602
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: asked about who he's rooting for, it says he has

603
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: no dog in the fight. I got a red flag.

604
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: That's that's absolutely embarrassing. And you can go, well, he's

605
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: a part owner, he calls games. I don't think anyone

606
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: would hold it against him. He doesn't have to say, well,

607
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on my Patriot jersey, but he could

608
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: easily say, of course, Robert Kraft is a close, close

609
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: friend of mine. Means a lot in my life. I've

610
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: known Mike Rabel for twenty five years. I'm rooting for

611
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Do you think, like being a parcel owner

612
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: of the Raiders or working for Fox, anyone would be like,

613
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can say that, or do

614
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: you think most people would go totally understand, like I

615
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: get it for him to go corporate, I got no

616
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: dog in the fight. That is something that should irk

617
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: the fans because it kind of feels like he doesn't

618
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: give a shit about Boston, like truly doesn't. You know,

619
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: moved out, left, never came back, not even thinking about

620
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: coming back. And I could be wrong on this. Peyton's

621
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: done that a little with Indy. I do feel like

622
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: Peyton's in Denver was more interwoven with Elway made multiple

623
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. Was a little different than Tom's in Tampa,

624
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: which they obviously won one two. You could argue it

625
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: was a Fugazi season twenty twenty. I mean, the forty

626
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: nine ers got kicked out of Wackoville and Santa Clara

627
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: had to come to Arizona because they just weren't allowed

628
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: to do anything there, and Arizona was just rocking and

629
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: rolling like nothing was weird. And you know, December of

630
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, like half the stadiums couldn't have fans and

631
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: the others that had fans. Most of the media called

632
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: them super spreader events that actually happened. That was the

633
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: time and place that happened in this country. But I

634
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: just think Tom Brady saying that to me, it's like,

635
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: come on, man, you don't you can be a human

636
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: on this, And maybe he's not, And then that to

637
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: me would be kind of telling. Maybe he doesn't give

638
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: a shit, Maybe he doesn't want the Patriots to win,

639
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't want the Patriots and Drake may to

640
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: be a Super Bowl champion. I don't know how that

641
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: would impact him at all, but maybe he's not rooting

642
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: for them, which I think if you take that kind

643
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: of angle and put that in your mind, if you're

644
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: a Patriot fan like that, that would suck. Like what,

645
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: he's not even gonna root for the guys, doesn't even care.

646
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: He's just he's just not on our team anymore, not

647
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: a part of our franchises. Doesn't give a shit that

648
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: that would suck, and that feels like it might be

649
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: at play the other gigantic fugazi. Today we've been talking.

650
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: I've been hammering this international thing right, UK, France, Spain, Brazil, Mexico.

651
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: So Jed York was like, we want to play one

652
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: of our if we're gonna get a home game taken away,

653
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: we want to go to Mexico. We have a big

654
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: fan base. Jerry said the same thing, the Cowboys big

655
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: fan base. Those two teams desperately want to play games

656
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: in Mexico, and I listen, it's hard to avoid. You're

657
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: gonna get put in some of these games. If I

658
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: would have guessed that, yeah, is gonna end up in

659
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: a game of Mexico, well, got announced today that them

660
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: and the Rams are playing a game in twenty twenty

661
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: six in Melbourne, Australia. I googled it. I've been in

662
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: New Zealand one time with my dad for a couple

663
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: of weeks back when I was like thirteen years old.

664
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: It was he was actually there. I came by myself,

665
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: which I don't even know if they'd allow you. Maybe

666
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: I was twelve and it was a long flight. I

667
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: think it was like thirteen fourteen hours. I've never been

668
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: to Australia, so I googled it SFO to Australia. It

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Speaker 1: said fifteen hours and twenty minutes. So if you say

670
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: it's give or take fifty minutes from SFO to LAX,

671
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: it's about fourteen and a half hours from Los Angeles

672
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: to Australia. That is absurd. What are we And this

673
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: is nothing against Australia, and I would imagine it's going

674
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: to be really cool. These are very passionate people about sports,

675
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: like it's gonna work. But to force teams to take

676
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: a fifteen hour plus flight to play one of the

677
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: best games on both their schedules, to me seems pretty insane.

678
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: It really does. And if I was McVeigh if I

679
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: was less need, if I was John Lynch and I

680
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: was Kyle Shanahan, I would be really fucking pissed, Like,

681
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Guys? If you're gonna make us

682
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: play in London or Mexico, okay, everyone's had to do it,

683
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: but you're gonna make us play in Australia, which you

684
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: have to take a West Coast team because if that

685
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: you took, like Philadelphia versus the Giants, that my guess

686
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: would be that'd be a twenty plus hour flight, so

687
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: you couldn't do that, but like you're going over fifteen hours.

688
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: I was talking to a couple guys on our staff.

689
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,959
Speaker 1: Logan who's one of our big wigs. He's flying from

690
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: Boston to you know, to SFO, like all these guys

691
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: coming out to the Super Bowl, and Mitch, who is

692
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: Sherman's guy, flew from DETROITFO. And they both said both

693
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: their flights were like five and a half to six

694
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: hours something with the win, but it was a long flight.

695
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: And I said, you don't, I think the five hour

696
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: flight really sucks because you're like three hours in. Maybe

697
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: you watch the movie, maybe you listen to something, trying

698
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: to be like okay, we're probably pretty close. And then

699
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: you look and you still got two plus hours a

700
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: fifteen hour flight. You could watch the Godfather trilogy and

701
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: still have time to read a book. Like, I don't

702
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: care who you are, I think we have to be

703
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: in agreement. Seems like a tad greedy, seems like a

704
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: tad much and seems like it really really fucks the

705
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: teams that are playing, and that being the Rams and

706
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, which is a really important game

707
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: for the league, and both those two teams I would

708
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: guess because of the time difference, this is gonna be

709
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: a six thirty am Pacific Standard time kickoff, which to

710
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: me just sucks. And uh, I don't really know what

711
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: else to say besides feels like a massive foguyz okay,

712
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: let's do a little mail bag at John Middlecoff. At

713
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those DMS questions

714
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: answered here on the show. Congrats on the new baby.

715
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: I have a six month old. To your point, it's

716
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: the greatest thing ever. I feel like nobody is discussing

717
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: how much of a coaching advantage the Pats have in

718
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: this game. McDaniels and Vrabel have tons of Super Bowl experience,

719
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: and it comes when it comes to dealing with things

720
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: like the extended halftime. Do you agree either way, lifelong

721
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: sc fan rooting for Darnold, It definitely doesn't hurt. It

722
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: definitely doesn't hurt. I've said this earlier. I will say

723
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: this over again. It's the thing that gives me pause

724
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: for making an uncomfortable bet on Seattle, and I'm not

725
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna do it because I'm not going to bet the

726
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: farm against the coaching staff, even though I think Seattle's

727
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: gonna win, and it wouldn't shock me if they do

728
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: control a victory. But it's a the players, and every

729
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: good coach has always said this. You need good players.

730
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: Of course, you know Vrabel, they have good players, Christ Gonzalez,

731
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: stud corner, Milton Williams has been awesome for them. I mean,

732
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: Drake may has had a great second season, you know, Booties,

733
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: come on, Diggs has made plays, Henderson's had big runs

734
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: like they've They've just They've had a lot going for

735
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: him in a positive way. But I think there's a

736
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: talent gap between these two teams. But coaching matters, and

737
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: that can This is not basketball, where if I got

738
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 1: Steph Curry and Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson his prime.

739
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Good luck. I'm gonna kick your ass in football, like

740
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: we've seen Belichick do this before, we saw Eli Manning

741
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: and Tom Coughlin do this before. You can overcome with

742
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: scheme and some big flute plays or some trick plays.

743
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: And I would imagine, you know, Josh McDaniel's been a

744
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: part of a lot of big trick plays over the

745
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: years with Bill and I would guess they're gonna run

746
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: some in this game. Maybe a fake punt, maybe a

747
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: double pass, help, maybe something you don't see coming. So

748
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: that's the thing that gives me pause. And that way,

749
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: if I was a Seattle fan, I would be more

750
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: nervous of the the Vrabel McDaniels, like what am I

751
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna get than I would just you know, booty looking

752
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: like Jerry Rice. Congrats on being a dad. My wife

753
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: and I are both thirty four of their first child

754
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: on the way. Congratulations. So it's really nice getting a

755
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: little bit of a roadmap. Buckles as my former producer

756
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: who left me for a Joe that'd be Fat Joe

757
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: and Jay Kiss, which is a massive podcast. This is

758
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: now on Netflix as Well has been telling me for

759
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: a while and officially said it when I had the baby.

760
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: Buckle up, and that's what I would say to you.

761
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: Buckle up. It's a good buckle up. It's like buckling

762
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: up in a in a sweet new car, right, you

763
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: gotta buckle up in a shitty Pinto. You'd rather buckle

764
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: up in a Ferrari or whatever, but it's you better

765
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: make sure your buckle did And because no looking back

766
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: with a Super Bowl, who is going to look worse

767
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: Woody Johnson or Amy Strunk. The Jets had their first

768
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: true franchise quarterback since name it on the roster and

769
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: fed it up, while the Titans literally dropped Vrabel, who

770
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: won big with Tannehill. I I think the Titans Sam

771
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: Darnold was not playing well, like it was not working

772
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: and he never had success. You know, Vrabel had two

773
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: bad years, definitely one really bad year, especially after a

774
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: j Brown, you know, got traded. So like coaches have

775
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: been fired for losing, but players like Sam Darnold never

776
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: stick around. When they get drafted high and they're really bad,

777
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: They're consistently moved, so I think it's easy to go.

778
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: The Jets made a mistake looking back, but he never

779
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: would have played like that on the Jets, and he

780
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: literally did not. So I think the Jets is more understandable.

781
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: I think with the Titans it's like, guys, he got

782
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: fired for being mean. Think about that, he got fired

783
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: for being mean. It's like, well, I mean part of

784
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: Listen Rabel doesn't own the business. He's an employee, but

785
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: he's a football coach. Football coaches are angry, and Henry

786
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne told me yesterday Kyle Shanahan is grumpier than Belichick.

787
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: Even Sherman's like, yeah, you can be a little grumpy.

788
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: Coaches are grumpy. Not everyone's Belichick or I mean Andy

789
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: Reid or Pete Carroll. They are more of a Your

790
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: personality is your personality. Congrats on the new gig on Netflix.

791
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: Question for the mailbag, I'm a big time Pats fan.

792
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: Why does nobody give us a credit we deserve? I

793
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: understand the schedule argument, but what can the Patriots do

794
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: to earn the respect that we deserve? You win the

795
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? They can't say bleep. They can never take

796
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: away your ring. And this ring in a weird way,

797
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, like when you guys first won it in

798
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, no one saw coming. You guys

799
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, big underdogs in the Super Bowl

800
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: game winning kick John Madden on the call, like that's

801
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: gotta be number one, just like the Red Sox. I

802
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: think of one four World Series this century. The first

803
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: one was the best one by far because no one

804
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: saw coming. They were down three to nothing to the Yankees.

805
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: You could never take that moment away. The Patriots, I

806
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: would say twenty eight to three was pretty remarkable. The

807
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler pick, Like they've had huge moments, but they

808
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: were favored in those games, like they were favored against

809
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. I don't have the line up the

810
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,479
Speaker 1: top of my head against Seattle, they were definitely. I'm stuck.

811
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: You even said they were four and a half point

812
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: favored against the Falcons, who were the one seed and

813
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: who just had the MVP, and they came back from

814
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: twenty eight to three. You guys won the Super Bowl.

815
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: No one's gonna care about strength of schedule beating Stidham.

816
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: Who cares you think anyone goes Hey, Trent Dilferd, you

817
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: had a great defense, Like, yeah, I won the Super

818
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: Bowl to starting quarterback, I read a story how Goodell

819
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: said the Rooney rule needs some work, but then he

820
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: proceeded to say, all ten teams this hiring cycle met

821
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: the Rooney rule. So if all the teams met the

822
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 1: Rooney rule and still hired the quote unquote best candidate,

823
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: nine of ten were not minorities, what does there need

824
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: to be work on? Because in my mind, the hiring

825
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: of a candidate that is or isn't a minority, if

826
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: it's not a good fit, will result in a worst

827
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: football product. I think this, you know, I think the

828
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: Flora is thing to me, Flores is clearly an elite candidate.

829
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: He failed one place, kind of like he had as good.

830
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: He had better success than Sala. I think the thing

831
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: that makes it complicated for him is he's literally suing

832
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: the league. Now again, Flores didn't get it. He's making

833
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: six million dollars, Like there are head coaches in the

834
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: league that do not make six million dollars, So it's

835
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: not like he's in the poorhouse. And I think if

836
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: he wasn't actively suing the league, I'd be a little

837
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: surprised if Brian Flores wasn't head coach. But I'm not sure,

838
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: Like you know, part of it is. We can debate

839
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy like, is are the Steelers crazy? None of

840
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: these coordinators are a better candidate than him. He's won

841
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: a super Bowl and he literally went to the Cowboys

842
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: and won twelve straight games or twelve games three years

843
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: in a row and won the Division two had of

844
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: three years, Like he can things to a resume. He

845
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: knows how to run an operation, he knows how to

846
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: call the offense. He knows how to run drafts and

847
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: free agency with a GM. So it's like people talk

848
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of about him, like no one sitting there,

849
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: like Vance Joseph can't sit in a meeting room and

850
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: say he's and be a better candidate. Now you could

851
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: argue that maybe the upside, and but like Vance Joseph

852
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: was one of the main candidates. To me, seems like

853
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: a good guy and he's done a good job in

854
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: Denver when he was a head coach. It did not

855
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: go well. Now you'd say the same thing for Robert Sala.

856
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I mean, I John Harbought obviously

857
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: takes a spot. We could argue Stefanski, you know, and

858
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: it does feel like they were just all in Stefanski

859
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: and that's fair, you know, mentor like they were hiring

860
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: Mincher the whole time. I think Jesse Minterer was gonna

861
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: be the Baltimore Ravens coach no matter what. Arizona. I

862
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't take that job if I was Vance Joseph, and

863
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: maybe he wouldn't. I mean some of these guys were

864
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: yanking their names out of the like no one wanted

865
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brown job. Like would Brian Flores taken the

866
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown job? Hopefully not, He'd be crazy if he would.

867
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: No one wanted the Arizona Cardinal job. And when you

868
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: look at it, when you look at the Raiders, like

869
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: they needed an offensive coach and they were gonna hire

870
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: an offensive coach. They're drafting this quarterback. So I think

871
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: sometimes cycles are just based on the candidates who's available.

872
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: Like last year, Mike Vrabel was getting a job. This year,

873
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, once he got fired, was one percent getting

874
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: a job next year. Assuming Mike Tomlin wants to come back,

875
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's a lock to come back.

876
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: I do think there's a chance he never comes back,

877
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: but he will be the number one candidate. I would say,

878
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: buy a wide margin and we'll have his pick of

879
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: a job. So I don't think there's any easy way

880
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: to do this, But like this this year was pretty

881
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: terrible in terms of the candidates. Some of the guys

882
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: that hired, like I Lafleur, I mean, his haircut is atrocious.

883
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: He's going to get fired in a couple of years,

884
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: Todd Monkin is gonna get fired. Those are fucking terrible jobs.

885
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: I mean awful jobs. I mean got awful. Both those guys.

886
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: I would give over under two and a half years,

887
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: and I would take the under Todd Monkin's first comments

888
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: were clearly this Jim Schwartz thing has become kind of emotional.

889
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: But part of it is he's like, I didn't I

890
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: didn't game plan against Jim Schwartz. I game I didn't

891
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: double team Jim Schwartz like double team Miles Garrett. It's like,

892
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy. So yeah, I mean, I

893
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: think some of these hires are terrible, but I think

894
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: the jobs are terrible. If if I knew Brian Floores

895
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: like middle Cooff, you think I should take the Browns job,

896
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 1: I'd be like, fuck, no, do not take the John.

897
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: How do you like live in Arizona should take the Cardinals. No,

898
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: do not take that job. So it's not like how

899
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: much you think the Cardinals are playing Matt Lafleur or

900
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: Micha laflor My guess would be Brian Flores makes more

901
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 1: money in Minnesota than Micha Laflora makes with the Arizona Cardinals.

902
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: My guess is Brian Flores makes more money than Todd

903
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: Munkin makes with the Cleveland Browns. I got a piece

904
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: of advice for you, you know. I I I think

905
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: sometimes titles now you're you get to be the boss.

906
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: But like we're all doing this for money, whatever our

907
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: professions are. There are some people that don't get the

908
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: notoriety or get known to some other people that double

909
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: their salary in all different types of industries. So Brian

910
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: floor has got a pretty good gick. Now who knows,

911
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't. I don't pretend to know everything with

912
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: his lawsuit, but you know, it's probably why Gruden's never

913
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: gonna get rehired. He's suing the league, you know. So

914
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: it's just once you become like a head coach, and

915
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that you could argue is like,

916
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: how come you know Robin sol is a minority, but

917
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: like he immediately like, oh, the jet stink didn't kind

918
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: of follow him where it felt like Vance Joseph's first

919
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: go around followed him. But Rahee Morris took him a

920
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: little bit longer. And that's fair. But like I saw

921
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris be a head coach, not very good. But again,

922
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: Rahee Morris is making like five million dollars now to

923
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: be the defense. Raheem Morris is making more of this

924
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: year than Michael flor I would I feel pretty confident

925
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: saying that it'd be one thing. It's like God Flores

926
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: really getting fucked. He's only making two hundred grand. It's like, no,

927
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: it's not really the way it's working here. It's got

928
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: a pretty good gig. I mean, hell, he just played

929
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: a role in getting the GM fired. Caleb gets a

930
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: lot of hate for his completion percentage, but this team

931
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: also led the league in drops. Do you think this

932
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: is a freak stat that will regress to the mean

933
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 1: or is his ball speed gonna result in a higher

934
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: drop percentage? Well, I think if you look at farv,

935
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: you know when you throw the ball that hard, and

936
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. To bring up is

937
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: it's much easier to catch Alex Smith's ball. Philip Rivers

938
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning three a very catchable ball. Caleb Williams Like,

939
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: it's hard to be a catcher for Randy Johnson. So yeah,

940
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna have some drops, even on days that aren't

941
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: freezing cold. So yes, to me, completion percentage not as

942
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for sixty eight percent from Kayleb Williams,

943
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: But to me, what I think is fair is like

944
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: some of the layup throws that he overthrows, because if

945
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: he can start hitting those with just a little bit

946
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: more touch, then to me, you you could really cook

947
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: with gas and you could have like the number one

948
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: offense in the league. You could have a team that's

949
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: competing to be the number one seed. But right now

950
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: they're kind of like a feast or famine. It's like

951
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: when it's on, it's on, and when he's off it

952
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: just they can go like they could look like the

953
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: Eagles from a passing game standpoint. But he's gonna have

954
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: more drops than let's say, Dak Prescott. It's much easier

955
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: to catch Dak Prescott's ball than it is Caleb Williams ball,

956
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: and obviously these are NFL receivers. If they're looking at

957
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: it in stride, they're gonna catch the ball. But on

958
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: plays where you're just a little late to turn around,

959
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: where he's got to get rid of it a little

960
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: quicker than he wants to in your reaction time, the

961
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: ball's on you faster. So that's a great point. It's

962
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: a great point a tough season from a Chiefs What

963
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: would you prioritize for KC this offseason? What would you

964
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: do with the ninth pick. I've fallen in love with love,

965
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: but I still have the scars from Clyde Edwards Hilaire.

966
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: I also like the idea of going after Breese Hall

967
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: and drafting the best dligneman available. I hate the idea

968
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: of drafting Caleb Downs. I'm sure he is great, but

969
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: positional value and money. I think they're gonna draft alignment.

970
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: I'd be stunned if they don't draft the defensive alignment.

971
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: I was talking to Sherman about this last night. We

972
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 1: were talking about the Super Bowl when they were playing

973
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and how you know, he knew what was

974
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: coming and then they kind of screwed up on the

975
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: play that Mahomes had a big throw down late in

976
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: that game. The forty nine Ers were up ten, But

977
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: we were just talking about Coach Reid and that offense,

978
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: and we both agreed it would be stunning if Andy

979
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: Reid and Bret Ves took Jeremiah Love. Not because Jeremiah

980
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: Love is not a great player, but Jeremiah Love is one.

981
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: Andy wants to throw the ball to the running backs

982
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: in which he ideally wants would be Jamal Charles, Shady McCoy,

983
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 1: Brian Westbrook, a versatile guy that I can actually throw you.

984
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: I can give you eight carries and I can throw

985
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: you the ball eight times, so I can give you

986
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: sixteen touches. But I do it a lot through the

987
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: passing game. Jeremiah Love is like Kyle Shanahan, the way

988
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: Lafleur treats Josh Jacobs like I'm going to ride you

989
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: like in Theory Rabel did with Derrick Henry. I'm gonna

990
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: ride you between the tackles. And to me, that's not

991
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: what the Chiefs need. So I my guess, as of

992
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: February fifth, I do not expect the kanc Chiefs draft

993
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: year of my Love, and I would expect them to

994
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: draft one of the defensive linemen, whoever the best defensive

995
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: lineman on the board is what I would expect them

996
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: to do, or offensive lineman. Both the top offensive linemen

997
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: technically are right tackles, so they could put in a

998
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: guy at right tackle. They get Simmons at left tackle,

999
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they go, we have an

1000
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: extremely talented young rookie contract tackles. I think you could

1001
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: easily justify doing that. I don't think it would be

1002
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: crazy at all to take one of the tackles if

1003
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: they're there, or one of the pass rushers. Am I

1004
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: crazy to think that Deshaun Watson's career isn't over and

1005
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: he could be the next quarterback that goes to a

1006
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: new team and is good if you look past the

1007
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 1: off field stuff. When he was in Houston, he was elite.

1008
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: The problem is that's a long time ago. Like what

1009
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: year do you think Deshaun Watson was last with the

1010
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: Houston Texans and playing football, because remember he was the

1011
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: one year he got in trouble, he got injured. Remember

1012
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: he missed like essentially two straight years. My guess would

1013
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: be Deshaun Watson's last year for the Houston Texans was

1014
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: like twenty nineteen, so looking yeah, he did not play

1015
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. So his last year was twenty

1016
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: twenty when they went four and twelve, and he had

1017
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: a great season. He threw thirty three touchdowns, but his

1018
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: team lost a bunch of games. He has been The

1019
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: crazy part is he has started six six that's twelve

1020
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: and he started nineteen games in his career for Cleveland

1021
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty three, twenty four to twenty five. They

1022
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: paid two hundred and thirty million dollars for nineteen games,

1023
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: fourteen nineteen touchdowns and and twelve interceptions and a completion

1024
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: percentage around sixty. He's been objectively bad with Cleveland. So

1025
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: he has not been a good quarterback for five seasons.

1026
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: Like that's a wide gap, and then you factor in injuries.

1027
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: I'd be stunned. I think if they cut him, no

1028
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: one touches him. Now I wouldn't say no chance, no

1029
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: one touches him. You never say that in the NFL.

1030
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: Maybe someone gives him a training camp invite, but I

1031
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: think there's a decent chance he never plays in the

1032
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: NFL again. And once Cleveland gets rid of him, and

1033
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: he's so rich, it doesn't matter. I mean, he's the

1034
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: Texans gave him a big contract and then he got

1035
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: the two hundred thirty million dollars. He's made multiple big contracts.

1036
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: Perhaps I can sway your opinion on Stefanski. You recently

1037
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: stated Monken doesn't have a chance on God's Green Earth

1038
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: with the Browns function at an average level due to

1039
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: ownership GM. Knowing this doesn't that make Stefanski's tenure more impressive.

1040
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: In twenty one, nearly beat the Chiefs to advance the

1041
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: AFC Championship. In twenty three, he led a team with

1042
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: Massage Watson and a week twelve signing and Joe Flacco

1043
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: who an eleven and six record. These two seasons are

1044
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: always brought up, but they are literally two of the

1045
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: best Brown seasons since nineteen ninety four. I just pushed

1046
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: back against that he's just some no brainer immediately get

1047
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: hired like he did coach. I'm not acting like he's

1048
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: the village idiot. I'm not acting like he's Freddie Kitchens

1049
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: or Jim tom Sula. That's not what I'm doing. I

1050
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: just think that he is discussed, like, I mean, one

1051
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: of the top offensive coaches, and I just witnessed him

1052
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: this year have statistically one of the worst offenses of

1053
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: all time, where it's like he couldn't manipulate anything, and

1054
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: clearly from an evaluation standpoint, he chose Dylan like that

1055
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Speaker 1: was him. He picked Dylan Gabriel in the third round.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the craziest things in the league history.

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Speaker 1: It really is. I'm not trying to be hyperbolic either.

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Speaker 1: I truly believe that, but I agree, like it's this

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Speaker 1: is why I'm not acting like he totally sucks what.

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Speaker 1: He's had some impressive years. He's clearly a smart guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not acting like he sucks. So if I come

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01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: off that way sometimes I don't necessarily mean to. I

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Speaker 1: think he's I think he's fine. He's better than He's

1064
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: gonna be way better in Munkin Modkin Mudkin with Andrew

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Speaker 1: Berry and that thing No and Shadoor and Watson. That

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01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: thing is going to be a nightmare. When he got

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01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: up there and started talking shit about Jim Schwartz, It's like, Bro,

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Speaker 1: you see his outfit with the baggy jeans. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he looked like a classic, like you know, sixty year

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01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: old dad with like you know, a daughter who's just

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Speaker 1: engaged in like her mid twenties, and he just that

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01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: thing's got disaster. Rittin, Would I rather have Stefanski as

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Speaker 1: my head coach than Todd? Yes, I am not arguing that.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Buffalo is going to make the same

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Speaker 1: mistake Cleveland made in nineteen It was heavily reported at

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01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: the time that Baker influenced the decision. Seems like history

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Speaker 1: is repeating himself with Josh in the hiring of Joe Brady.

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Speaker 1: Not saying the Bills and Browns are in the same situation.

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Speaker 1: But I'm reminded that Colin says all the time, your

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01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: replacement solution should usually not come from down the hall.

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Speaker 1: I tend to agree. I have a hard time comparing

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady to Freddie Kitchens. I think Freddy Kitchens, who

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01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: was just fired again by Bill Belichick, is just not

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Speaker 1: someone you would pay to coordinate your offense, like you

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Speaker 1: would not want Freddy Kitchens to coordinate your offense. I'm

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01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: not talking head coach. I'm saying coordinate your offense. And

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Speaker 1: before he was the head coach of the Browns, he

1088
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: had never been a coordinator. He was a running back coach,

1089
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: tight end coach, a quarterback coach, a running back coach.

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Speaker 1: He had never called place and since he left the

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01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: Browns tight end coach, senior analyst, interim head coach, tight

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Speaker 1: end coach, like he's not a coordinator. So Joe Brady

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01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: is established. Like Joe Brady can call plays and I

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01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: don't know him personally, I can just go off watching

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01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: his press conference. Seems like an impressive guy. I think

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01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: Joe Brady is much smarter in a higher level cat

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01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: than Freddie Kitchens. Joe Brady's upside is dramatically different. But

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01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: here's the key. Josh Allen in twenty twenty six is

1099
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: in a different freaking universe than Baker Mayfield was then.

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01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: So he's inheriting in the prime of his career, one

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01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: of the best players of his generation, and they've already

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01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: worked together. Is it risky? One percent? I was in

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01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: a conversation with a former Bill last night and he

1104
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: thought the move was insane. He thinks it's gonna fail now.

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Speaker 1: He's a big Sean mc germy guy. He didn't play.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't there when Joe Brady was there. He was

1107
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Speaker 1: there earlier in the late twenty tens. He thought it

1108
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: was stupid. He loved Sean McDermott. Now listen, I'm a

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01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: Sean mcdermy guy too. But I do think that it

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Speaker 1: can work. I do think that it can work. They

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Speaker 1: harred Jim Leonard, who's an very impressive defensive coordinator, the

1112
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: former Jets safety just stud that could they could just

1113
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: be a well coached team. Now, when it comes to

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Speaker 1: leading the group being the head coach, he's gonna have

1115
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 1: to prove that he can do that, and that's much

1116
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: harder to do than it is being a coordinator. So

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01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: that would be my question. I think calling plays, they'll

1118
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: be fine. They'll be good on defense. If Josh plays well,

1119
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be a compete for the number one seed.

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Speaker 1: But you know, being a head coach is hard. When

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01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: to call timeouts, when to you know, the feel of

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01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: a team just working the sideline differently, I mean, Joe

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Speaker 1: Brady's just been in a box calling place. Now he's

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Speaker 1: on the sideline running the entire team. So that to

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Speaker 1: me gives me possible. But I would not compare this

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Speaker 1: to Freddy Kitchens A Baker Mayfield twenty nineteen. I would not.

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Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, and I know there are

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Speaker 1: some parallels the way it played out, but Freddy Kitchens

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01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: when he was named the head coach to start the

1130
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: previous season, he was the running back coach. Think about that.

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Speaker 1: He was the running back coach, so I would say

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Speaker 1: it's different for sure. Audios the volume