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Speaker 1: Welcome back Happy Hour listeners. And as we are recording this,

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Speaker 1: I just had a thought cross my brain, and that is,

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Speaker 1: we only have two weeks left of Matt James this season.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we saw everything go down last night. We are

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Speaker 1: going to do a quick recap today, but next week

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Speaker 1: is the finale, which is crazy to think. I feel

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Speaker 1: like this season has been so long at times and

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Speaker 1: then so short at times. But I can't get into

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Speaker 1: the recap and I can't get into our amazing guests

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Speaker 1: that we're having on later without some incredible reinforcements. So

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Speaker 1: I thought I would bring none other than my girl

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Speaker 1: Tasha back. So Tasha, welcome once again to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: What is I'm so happy to be back. Honestly, this

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Speaker 1: is very fun and honest I don't want to tell

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Speaker 1: my co host that I'm here, like it feels like

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Speaker 1: doing something a little naughty, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: but like, well they don't know, it doesn't hurt, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? So let's have some fun. This is,

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Speaker 1: you know what I've I've heard this many times this week,

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Speaker 1: But it's better to ask for forgiveness and permission or

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Speaker 1: for permission, so you know, We're just going to get

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Speaker 1: into this. Joe and Natasha and click bait can get

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Speaker 1: at you after this, But um, while we have you here,

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Speaker 1: we have to get into it because, like I said,

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Speaker 1: we have an incredible guest coming on today, one that

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Speaker 1: I think fans have been asking for for a while,

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Speaker 1: and especially after the gut runching goodbye and her hot

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Speaker 1: scenes on Women Tell All. So very soon, you guys,

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Speaker 1: we will be bringing on Serena pa I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to have her sit down and just pick her brain

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of like what was actually going

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Speaker 1: through her mind when she said her goodbyes, when she

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Speaker 1: self eliminated and also when she saw him again at

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Speaker 1: Women Tell All, because I know from experience that scene

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Speaker 1: and X is never easy, it's uncomfortable, Like so, I

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Speaker 1: just want to hear woman to a woman like what

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Speaker 1: was going through her her brain and her heart at

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Speaker 1: that point. But before we do, it's a spicy week,

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Speaker 1: you guys. It's it's fantasy Sweet Week, and it's so

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Speaker 1: funny because we both as leads have lived through fantasy

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Speaker 1: in a Sweet Week as a contestant and getting in

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Speaker 1: our heads knowing like that the sky that we like

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Speaker 1: that we're falling for that we're dating, that we're trying

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Speaker 1: to potentially end up with at the end, is seeing

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Speaker 1: other women. And then we've also lived it on our

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Speaker 1: side where it's like the ball was kind of in

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Speaker 1: they literally were like yes, serious, yes, And so it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, in that moment, you're kind of like living

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, it's so fun to be able to

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Speaker 1: do this. But you've had the most recent fantasy suites

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Speaker 1: because you know it was your season last season, So

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Speaker 1: what is it like remembering like reliving those moments and

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Speaker 1: then watching it back on a different season. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I just remember how like intense that week was for

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Speaker 1: but it's not typical that I take like three to

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Speaker 1: I just remember, you know, how many emotions you're going

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Speaker 1: I was feeling for matches because I know how stressful

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Speaker 1: how was it. I don't care how it was? But

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Speaker 1: like there's always that one. But speaking of the conversation

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Speaker 1: her and Matt have some wonderful closure on woman till all.

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Speaker 1: But today she's going to be here to answer all

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Speaker 1: submitted so many questions, so thank you. So without further ado,

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Speaker 1: you guys, please welcome Serena Pee alrighty, well, first and foremost, Serena,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. We are so excited to

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Speaker 1: have you, mainly because I'm selfish and you've been one

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Speaker 1: to start it off asking how are you? How have

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Speaker 1: you been since film? And Philison? Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be here, so thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: I've been good. Life has been crazy. This is not

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Speaker 1: So I've really been receiving and feeling nothing but very

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Speaker 1: been like fully supported, all in, like, oh yeah, you

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00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: see it, he's great, go for gold. Would you have

432
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: stuck around longer? Do you think? Um, potentially, I think

433
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: that has that, you know, not ended our relationships in

434
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: the following weeks, I still might have. I think I

435
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: still might have gone to that place on my own.

436
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 1: It might have just taken me a little bit longer

437
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: because what the audience didn't get to see with my

438
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: family being like, if you fall in love and getting

439
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: gaze this guy, we'll throw you. If he's party and

440
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: be thrilled for you. I mean he's great. He seems

441
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: like he really cares about you. You seem like you

442
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: could be a great fit together. So we're happy either way.

443
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: They were very much this is what we see and

444
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: this is what we hear from you, and those are

445
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: some things that you need to address within yourself. But

446
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: if you come to us and say, nope, I fell

447
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: in love, we got engaged, this is all great. They

448
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: would have been totally happy. So it really wasn't them

449
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: pushing me in a certain direction. It was them picking

450
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: up on those notes that I was having when I

451
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: was trying to express myself and talk about my feelings

452
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: and struggling to do so. And you had like a

453
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: very emotional conversation with your mom and she brings up

454
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: your past relationships and looking back, do you think that

455
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: that's affected your ability to move forward with that? I

456
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: don't think that was what affecting my ability to move forward,

457
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: Like I don't see what I went through my past

458
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: relationship as a block. Yeah, I think what it was

459
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: was in my last relationship, I really trusted my gut

460
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: and that relationship ended in heartbreak and pain. So I

461
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: was struggling to trust my gut again with Matt because

462
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: I didn't want to make the wrong decision and I

463
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: didn't really know where my gut was leading me because

464
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: I wanted I wanted it to work out. But that's

465
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: kind of what I got to with my mom in

466
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: that conversation while I was so emotional, and there was

467
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: a lot going on that whole week, and I mean,

468
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: you can you've both experienced at hometowns, it just gits

469
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: a lot, you're very aware of the soom engagement that's

470
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: coming up. So I was really overwhelmed. I was struggling

471
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: to trust myself in that moment and struggling to just

472
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: figure out what this feeling in my gut was. Was

473
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: it fear? Was I just scared of getting heartbroken again?

474
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: Or was it something more than that? Was it something

475
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: that should make me consider removing myself in the relationship.

476
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: Having your family there really makes it real, like really quick,

477
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: and it really makes you check yourself and just being

478
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: a glock. I know, like I'm a smart girl and

479
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: I have good instincts and whatnot, but at the same time,

480
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, am I in lovald a

481
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: little bit? Like do any to check myself and think

482
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: about reality and like what life will really look like

483
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: after this. So I totally understand that Mom always puts

484
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: in everything into perspect so totally well. And your family

485
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: they know you best, and a lot of times too,

486
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: they'll check you and they'll they will recognize and call

487
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: out things that you either a don't even seeing yourself

488
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: or want to acknowledge. So sometimes in those scenarios like

489
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: you really need them to solidify. One way or the other,

490
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: like what's what's going to be the best decision in

491
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: the long run, because at the end of the day,

492
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: like say you were to get engaged and get married,

493
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 1: like you're not just marrying this one person, Like you're

494
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: marrying into the family, like you are bonded for life,

495
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: and that's like it should not be taken lightly. And

496
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: so Serena, like, I kudos to you for really like

497
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: listening to what your family had to say, and it

498
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: sounds like they were so incredibly supportive. But at the

499
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: end of the day, like really feeling like what are

500
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: my emotions here? Is it fear? Is it like the

501
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: fact that I could get hurted or whatever it might be?

502
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: Like I think that's really strong of you as a

503
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: woman to listen to your gut And I mean, I

504
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: will say, like watching that break up that stay when

505
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: you said a goodbye to Matt, like it was gut wrenching,

506
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: Like yeah, we watched, We've all seen the show. And

507
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: like some breakups, you know, like tug at your heart strings.

508
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: Some are easier than others, some are just like pitiful

509
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: like whatever might be, but like yours truly like I

510
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: felt like you guys cared about each other and had

511
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: so much respect and you know, Matt, like I think

512
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, was so into you,

513
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: but it was also respectful of your decision and be like,

514
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: look like I you know, I can't like if you

515
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: don't want to be here, Like I can't talk you

516
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: into it, Like this is a two way street. So

517
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: going into that conversation and that breakup, what were you

518
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: telling yourself? Like did you kind of have a game plan?

519
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: Were you thinking like did you assume he was going

520
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: to respond one way? Like? Speak on that going into it. Yeah,

521
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: I definitely wanted to the breakup. I guess you could

522
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: say prepared as prepared as you can be. I mean,

523
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: breakups are really emotional, and I wanted to kind of

524
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: have an idea of what I wanted towards toquilate, to

525
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: ensure that I gave him as much close as possible

526
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: and wasn't overcome by emotion and wasn't able to kind

527
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: of perspectively communicate to him. I didn't know how he's

528
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: going to react, If I'm being completely honest, I mean,

529
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: I think you can really know someone, but going through

530
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: a breakup is a whole other thing. And we've never

531
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: been through something similar to that, so it was really

532
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: a first and his reaction was something I kind of

533
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: just left open in the sense, you know, whatever comes comes,

534
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: and we'll have whatever conversation he wants to have. I

535
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: know that, you know, my delivery was a little on

536
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: the harsher side with kind of me saying you're not

537
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: my person. That wasn't an accident, it was a choice,

538
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: and I agree that it's a harsh statement, and it

539
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: really really killed me to say it because I knew

540
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: it would hurt him. But I felt, and you know,

541
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: maybe maybe this is right, this is maybe this is wrong,

542
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: But in that moment, I felt being as clear and

543
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: direct as possible about where I stood in that relationship

544
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: and what my feelings were and why I was leaving

545
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: was the best thing I could do for him. Because

546
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: he has three other women, he doesn't have weeks to ponder.

547
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: We don't have time to have multiple conversations. It's one

548
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: conversation and then I'm gone, and then he goes on

549
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: dates with other women. So I didn't want him to

550
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: leave that conversation with any doubt, any what if any questions.

551
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: I wanted to be as straightforward as I possibly could

552
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: and it was hard. It was hard emotional. Yeah, I

553
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: don't think it was harsh. I don't think you need

554
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: to beat yourself up. I think in that case when

555
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: you say, like time is of the essence and you

556
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: like at that point there was four of you left,

557
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: Like I thought that was commendable, like to be honest,

558
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: like putting myself back into the shoes as a lead,

559
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: Like if somebody would have said that to me, Like, sure,

560
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: it would have been hard to hear, but at the

561
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: end of the day, like I can't fault you for that,

562
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: and I would rather have that directness than have multiple

563
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: conversations back and forth trying to figure out like, oh,

564
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: but could this work. I want them to stay, but

565
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: like do they want to and like like you said,

566
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: all of the what ifs and the unknowns, Like I

567
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: think you handled it like in a very respectable way. Absolutely,

568
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: there was a point where like someone did say, like,

569
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, I can't be here anymore because I just

570
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: don't know if I can get engaged. And unfortunately that

571
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: breakup kind of went back and forth. He was like

572
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to hurt you, like you're everything I want,

573
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: but like at the same time, it's like I don't

574
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: know if I can, and like even the goodbye process

575
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: was like he was walking into the car and then

576
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: came back and held my hand, then walking into the car,

577
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: and then came back and give me a kiss, like

578
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: walking into the car, Like I understand. It seems like

579
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: very harsh for you to be like you're not my person,

580
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's so crucial I think

581
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: in this like journey specifically, because you're making such intense

582
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: decisions so quickly that it's like someone leaves you, you know,

583
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: so I don't know, but just like no reassurance that

584
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: you know they have confidence in their decision. It's really sad,

585
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: like it's really sucky. It makes you because second guess everything.

586
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: It makes you like, Okay, well, maybe should I talked

587
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: to in this play? Should we have a little bit

588
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: more time, you know what I mean? So I love

589
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: the way that you did it. I think it was

590
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: you spoke your truth. Matt needed to hear it. As

591
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: harsh as it was, it wasn't really harsh. So yeah,

592
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: it's like the back and forth, that limbo phase that

593
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: you're in doesn't ever help anything or anybody. So I think, yeah,

594
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: cutting the cord quicker. If you know it's not right helps,

595
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: especially when things are so sped up in this show. Yeah,

596
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Serena, when you were driving away, did you

597
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: ever have the moment where you were like, did I

598
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: make it? Did I make a mistake? Like? Was that

599
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: the right decision? Because there was one time on my

600
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: season where I sent a guy home, really and it

601
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: was the only time where I was like, h did

602
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: I do that too fast? Like should I? Should I

603
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: have kept around a little bit longer? Like did that

604
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 1: ever cross your mind? Yeah? I mean I remember driving

605
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: away being like I missed already? What the heck? Guy?

606
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: I just left him and I already missed him? And

607
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: I think it's so easy and normal after a breakup

608
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: just to go through those what IFFs. And my biggest

609
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: what if was what if I'd stayed one more week?

610
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: What if I'd stayed till fantasy? This week we got

611
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: a whole night together. It was Unmike off camera time

612
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: that we could have spent together. Would that have changed anything?

613
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: Did I call it too since I give myself one

614
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: more week? But I think in the emotional state I

615
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: was in, I would have felt really guilty doing that

616
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: to him. Because to take a spot from someone who

617
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: was certain and I knew the other three women were.

618
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: They were in a place of certainty. How disrespectful to

619
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: take that valuable time away from one of his other

620
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: relationships to figure out if he might be my fiancee.

621
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: I just didn't feel authented doing that. I felt kind

622
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: of just shade. It would have felt really shady to me.

623
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: And in the real world, you know, the real world.

624
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the real world, but you know

625
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: what I mean, a normal dating, you kind of have

626
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: that time to be like, Okay, I'm not sure, like

627
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: let me give this another week or two, let me

628
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: go and seem a few more times before I make

629
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: that decision. But we just you don't have the luxury

630
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: of that on the show. I don't want to keep

631
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: harping on it, but was there like one specific red

632
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: flag that you were just like, you know, this is

633
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: just something we're not saying at eye on or that

634
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: kind of kept resonating you kind of think, because I

635
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: would love to have that, Like I would love to

636
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: be able to say, like X y Z is why

637
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: I didn't work out. And I mean I think every

638
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: relationship there's things that you're completely eye to eye on

639
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: and then those things that you maybe are not completely

640
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: eye on. But there was nothing big enough that I

641
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: was like, this is a red flag, right, I had

642
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: a run like it was it was. There was nothing

643
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: that was just so obviously wrong or any big issue,

644
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: which is what made it so difficult. I mean, it

645
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: was just like emotionally torn over this decision, because when

646
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong, it's like, well, why am I doing this?

647
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm leaving this great guy, I'm leaving this great relationship.

648
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: But right at the end of the day, I just

649
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: felt like I had to fall in my gun in

650
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: my heart and felt to prison for doing all that.

651
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: So let's get into women tell all, Because that was

652
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: your first time then seeing Matt since that hard goodbye?

653
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: What was it like sitting down seeing him face to face,

654
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: having that first conversation since the breakup, like talk us

655
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: through what you were feeling in that moment. I was

656
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: really nervous to see that for the first time. I

657
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: think when he walked out, the first thing I thought was,

658
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the bearded hard to miss that is

659
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: looking at him so funny. So yeah, I'm grateful for

660
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: the beard. Um. It definitely just called my nerves for

661
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: a second, but it was to see him. I mean,

662
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: I do wish the best for him. I hope that

663
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: he's happy. I mean all those things. We didn't get to,

664
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: obviously have an extensive conversation. We just kind of got

665
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: to briefly address each other. But I was glad to

666
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: be able to just reiterate why I made that decision

667
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: to leave for what might have felt like quite abruptly,

668
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: and just to be able to say I care about you,

669
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: and I still care about you, and I wish the

670
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: best for you, and I hope that this journey did

671
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: work and you found love. I mean, like looking back, like,

672
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: how do you feel about everything now? Like, obviously you're

673
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: still happy with your decision, Obviously you're doing well, But

674
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: it would there be anything you would ever change or

675
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: how are you feeling? I don't think so. I mean,

676
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: I think hindsight's obviously played twenty twenty and walking yourself

677
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: back on TV is just a whole other level of

678
00:34:54,760 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: hindsights and I would experience so weird. But I think overall,

679
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm proud of the way that I handled myself, and

680
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm proud of the decisions that I made, and there

681
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: was a lot of hard decisions and hard moments. I mean,

682
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: this is not an easy journey. But there's nothing that

683
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: I sit here like, oh that's a huge bread or

684
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: I really wish I'd done or said this differently. But

685
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's still learning experience. But I've learned a

686
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: lot from that show. That's not to say I didn't

687
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: take away things that I will change or work on

688
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: in the future, of course. Yeah, I think, and I've

689
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: said this many times before, like there's no possible way

690
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: that you can go on the show as either contestant

691
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: or lead and not learn so much more about yourself

692
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: as an individual, so much more about how you handle

693
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: relationships with the partner, relationships with the other women, with

694
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: the crew, Like there's just so much that you can

695
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: take away, Like, and we asked some some of the

696
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: other guests, but like one thing that you learned most

697
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: about yourself that you want to share with us, what

698
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: was that? So for me, I have a really tight

699
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: knit community of family and friends at home, and I

700
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: love to have everyone way on way and on big

701
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: decisions in my life. So I tend to go to

702
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: them for advice and support and to hear their opinions.

703
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: With this, You're completely disconnected, you have no technology, nothing.

704
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: Everyone else in this house is either working on the

705
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: show or dating the same guy as you. So I

706
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: really felt like, and that's not to say didn't have

707
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: friends or people that I confided in, but I really

708
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: felt like when it came down to decisions for me

709
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: and for my relationships, I had to ruly myself. And

710
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: I think I've always felt comfortable making decisions, but I've

711
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: gained a new found sense of confidence in my ability

712
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: to make decisions and to give myself the leeway to

713
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: maybe make mistakes, and being able to trust my gut,

714
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: trust myself and be like, Okay, I'm a twenty three

715
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: year old, confident woman who knows who she is and

716
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: knows what's best for herself, and if I make mistakes,

717
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: that's okay. But I'm capable in making those decisions and

718
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: those calls independently. It's definitely a wake up call to like,

719
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: because you don't have anybody to call on and you

720
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: have to rely on yourself, and it feels really freaking

721
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: good to come back and be like, yeah, I freaking

722
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: did that, and you feel good about every decision you made.

723
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: So I love that, Serena, we have some fan questions

724
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: for you that I really want to get into, because,

725
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: like I said, you were like a fan favorite for

726
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: me for so many people. But before we get into that,

727
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: you know, I love the fact that you are a

728
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: confident woman, that you gained more independence and confidence from

729
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: this show. There's a lot that the world has to

730
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: offer into of bachelination and all of the fun things

731
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: to come. So what's next for you is paradise potentially

732
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: on the horizon for you? Oh, she smiled big. You

733
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: see that. I see almost, seeth girl. I mean, my

734
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: season just ended, so I feel like I'm just kind

735
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: of coming down from all of that and I am

736
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: back at work at my job. But I had to

737
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: pose experience with this show and can see how it

738
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: can work and can see how you can find love

739
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: in it. So I would definitely be open to consider

740
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: an opportunities again with the franchise in the future. It's exciting,

741
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: it's okay time And you're right, you can't find love

742
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: on the show. Yes, yes, Tati knows firsthand. I know

743
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: I knew it for a little bit. But uh, speaking

744
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: of I mean, and there's not only paradise like Obviously,

745
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: paradise isn't a few short months, so you have some

746
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: time to figure out work, like what path do you

747
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: potentially want to take? But um, would you ever also

748
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: consider becoming bachelorette in the future if you were offered it,

749
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: I would consider it. Yeah, I con I like it.

750
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: Keep those options open. Girlfriend. What was it like kissing

751
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: a six five man? Oh my gosh, it was like

752
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: Matt is actually really good about not making the high

753
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: difference awkward. Like I've met guys who are really tall

754
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: and they feel tall when you're around them, like trying

755
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: to hug them, and like just the overall interactions. I'm like,

756
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: and I'm five too, Like I'm a small person. So

757
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: being that high difference between me and Matt, the girls

758
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: and the house who make fun of me saying like

759
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: I have to like reach up to grab his hand

760
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: or that I looked just like so little next to him.

761
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: But no, he is definitely tallic guy I've ever dated,

762
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: and I can't say it was awkward in any way.

763
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: If anything, it was fun because he could pick me

764
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: up like I was nothing. Oh my gosh, And that's

765
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: that's always fun. So let's see if you guys were

766
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: both single. Would you give him another chance? Really the

767
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: question of the day. It feels like, look, Matt one

768
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: on that show to find his future wife and find love,

769
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 1: and that wasn't me at this time. I do hope

770
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: that he's found that with someone. He had three incredible

771
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: women left, and I'm hopeful he got what he was

772
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: looking for from that journey. I mean, I'll never say never.

773
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: Who knows where we'll be a few years down the

774
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: line if our past reconnect or recollide. Like I said,

775
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: we had an amazing relationship and I still look on

776
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: it really fondly and still care about him. But at

777
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: this time, you know, I've made my choice please relationship,

778
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: and I'm hopeful that he's so much Yeah that's sweet. Yeah,

779
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: all right, Suina Pe. We have one more question, well

780
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: actually two more questions, because I can't forget the main

781
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: question that we skull of our guests. But I'm dying

782
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: to know, as as are many of our fans, because

783
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: I actually got a lot of dms after I did

784
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: an instan a story announcing that we were going to

785
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: have you on the podcast. Um, how tasty was the

786
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: actual poutine that had with Matt on your hometown date.

787
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean not tasty at all. The

788
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: image for itself. I listed the lid lids on all

789
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: of the food dishes. So I listed the lid and

790
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: I looked at Matt was like cold. And then we

791
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: tasted it. I was like, oh, it's cold. It's cold.

792
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: This has been sitting here for a few minutes. Um,

793
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: It's definitely not made in Canada. Don't be wrong. You

794
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: can't really go wrong with cheese, fries and gravy. But

795
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: if mat ever comes to Canada, I definitely encourage him

796
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: to try our poutine. All right, Serena, Well, we ask

797
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: all of our guests this, and because you know, we're

798
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: basically almost at the end of the season and you've

799
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: lived through so much of the drama and the love

800
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: and like all of the things that this wonderful show

801
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: has to offer so overall for you, what was your

802
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: rose and what was your thorn of this journey? Oh gosh,

803
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: I guess I'll start with my thorn. Not to take

804
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: this in a dark urn, but just to give you

805
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: guys a little bit of insight on something that I

806
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: went through on the season that, out of respect for

807
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: me and my family, wasn't shown a few days before Hometown,

808
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: my grandmother passed away, so that was kind of the

809
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: first piece of news I found out from the outside

810
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: world and being trapped in the McColl and you know,

811
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: our teason didn't travel at all. So I mean, I'm

812
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: sure Tasha, you can relate to this, being in that

813
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: bubble and having no idea what's happening for weeks on end.

814
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: It was a really hard kind of hit for me

815
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: and for my family, and I know my friends were like,

816
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: you look exhausted in some of these episodes, and just

817
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: because there was a lot going on. So it made

818
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: seeing my family and getting to have that reunion with

819
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: them at Hometown's that much more special and that much

820
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: more meaningful. And then you know, to take it on

821
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: a little better of a home. I'm so sorry to

822
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: hear that, by the way, I'm so sorry. Yeah, thank you.

823
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: My Rose was my relationship with that honestly it was.

824
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: I know that sounds kind of silly to say, because

825
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: obviously I ended that relationship, but I think that you

826
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: learn and grow from every relationship you have, and we

827
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: made some incredible memories together that I still to the

828
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: stay cherished, and I'll take everything I learned from him

829
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: and from that relationship into my next relationships and into

830
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: the future, so I am very grateful for that. Yeah,

831
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: this is I mean, yes, acquaintatious sentiment about your grandma.

832
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: I am so incredibly sorry. I understand what it feels

833
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: like to lose family members. I can't imagine losing it

834
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: when you're away from them and can't be there to

835
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: hold and support the rest of your family members. So

836
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm wrapping you in a big virtual hug here,

837
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: and I'm so sorry that you guys had to deal

838
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: with that at such a terrible, terrible time, especially with

839
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: this year and everything happening. Thanks, well, maybe Paradise, maybe

840
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: bachelortte one day. Who knows the world is your oyster,

841
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: so soak it all in. Thank you so much. Thanks

842
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: for having me, guys, I really appreciate it. This was fun.

843
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Titia, she was such a pleasure to

844
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: have on. I'm glad that we finally sat down. She's

845
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: someone that I think the fans have been wanting to

846
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: hear from for a while since her very first one

847
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: on one. So she's a sweetheart. What did you think

848
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: of her? I just lovely, I mean I always thought

849
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: that she carried herself so well, and it's just super

850
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: fun being able to talk to the girls right after

851
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: they come off of the show. I mean, I'm not

852
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: used to it over there at click Bay, but this

853
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: is a really I'd like that we give them the

854
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: opportunity because you learned so much more about them. Like

855
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: I was happy that she was able to talk more

856
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Speaker 1: about her family and just like what that meant to her,

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Speaker 1: She is only twenty three, but she has a lot

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