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Speaker 1: at Dartmouth College. He's currently starting in ambitions, a new

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Speaker 1: night time drama from producing my man. Will Packard did

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Speaker 1: It's premier in this June. He's surrounded by the all

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Speaker 1: star casts and includes My Girl. Robin Gibbons did uh

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Speaker 1: That's m Girl from w B and UPM. The series

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Speaker 1: tells the tells the tale of two high powered African

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Speaker 1: the hot Atlanta. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations, my

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Speaker 1: man Brian White, Hey brother, how are you? Thank you

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Speaker 1: for having me on? Well, first of all, thank you man. Listen,

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Speaker 1: let's let's let's talk about the wee yet right now?

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Speaker 1: You're you you you just tend at the house. You're

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Speaker 1: acting on some set. What's going on man yet? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right now I'm at the house. We were getting some

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Speaker 1: work done. Um, get ready to head out on the

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Speaker 1: road and promote ambitions. We're getting ready to go to

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Speaker 1: Miami and breaking my family with me, my wife's family.

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Speaker 1: She's from Argentina. Some of her family lives in Miami,

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Speaker 1: soort of bringing my daughter so they can meet them,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just celebrate the life being good. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's that's that's that's a lot of good

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Speaker 1: eating meat, meat, meat, men. Yeah, a lot of seafood,

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Speaker 1: a lot of seafood down there. Absolutely. So when you

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Speaker 1: when you start looking at your career, all right, I'll

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Speaker 1: go through your resume and I put your father's name,

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Speaker 1: Jojo White, and being a sports fan, being a person

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Speaker 1: of African American descent, Roshan mcgaunt. Let's meet Jojo White,

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Speaker 1: watching him succeed in the climate of Boston, watching him

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Speaker 1: succeed on a basketball, uh team like the Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 1: What was that like? Because for me, it was important

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Speaker 1: because he was a successful African American succeeding against the

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Speaker 1: that that made me feel that I can make it too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It Uh, I mean it was very educational. Uh. It

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Speaker 1: was also very challenging because my parents were divorced when

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Speaker 1: but I lived and was raised by my mom, and

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Speaker 1: so you know, I when I wasn't with my father,

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Speaker 1: I was a witness, you know, like a fan watching

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Speaker 1: very aware of it because he was not living in Boston. Uh,

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Speaker 1: in my in my teen years, but he was always

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Speaker 1: in the Boston papers. Uh in my you know, when

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Speaker 1: I'm aware of everything he's doing, but I just can't

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Speaker 1: Uh we were texting all day the way we are now.

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Speaker 1: The word work was the video so you know, if

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Speaker 1: free on a hardline phone and we could talk, but

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Speaker 1: that wasn't often. So, UM, I learned how this kind

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Speaker 1: you know, telling my dad did not get on that podium.

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Speaker 1: Don't uh let your fans know at your politics and

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Speaker 1: to be a part of something positive is an asset

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Speaker 1: that my father definitely demonstrated and passed on to me

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Speaker 1: is as something that's very valuable. Congratulations because I guess

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Speaker 1: what what individuals do when you have so few role models,

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Speaker 1: know they haven't really accomplished anything, and instead, instead of

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Speaker 1: because every role you play I watch, your credit or

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Speaker 1: you're a good looking guy. Uh, and you always come

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about your father, and we're

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Speaker 1: your daring nous. You know. Is one of the favorite

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Speaker 1: for a crazy character like that? I'll let you in

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Speaker 1: on a couple of secrets. David Hollander, Uh, the creator

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Speaker 1: And I said, that's how I saw it, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have to laugh at it. And he goes all right, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So I have some things in mind for season two

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Speaker 1: And absolutely, man, I'll be Huckleberry. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's called Ambitions. I know, I got a shot window

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Speaker 1: details when we come back, all right. Ambitions created by

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Speaker 1: basically a modern day game of Thrones and about five

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Speaker 1: twenty five years, and everybody in that diary is a suspect.

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Speaker 1: And I go interrogating one at the time, following the

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Speaker 1: clues like a trail of bread clumbs. And I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: I might have to kill a few people in this movie,

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Speaker 1: UH and get some answers and find out what happened.

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Speaker 1: It's a It's a dark thriller, somewhat comedic, could definitely dramatic,

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Speaker 1: called Dear Frank. It will be in theaters in November.

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Speaker 1: Well you you gotta come back, Brian, you gotta come

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Speaker 1: back again. We're talking to Brian White. Great series, good friends,

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Speaker 1: Sheila duckwork. That's my girl, Brian, Brian Willpacker, you know

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Speaker 1: that's my boy. Please check out the new series called

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