Speaker 1: The first order of business in the world of politics.
Speaker 2: Because I don't know if y'all saw what the hell
Speaker 2: happened on TV today live, national television, live, international television
Speaker 2: as well, y'all got to see this if y'all haven't
Speaker 2: said it, because that's exactly where I'm getting started. It's
Speaker 2: in the nation's capital with a nation saw a President
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Vice President JD. Vance have a testy
Speaker 2: exchange with Ukrainian President Vladi Mayor Zelenski. It all happened
Speaker 2: in front of reporters during their meeting at the White
Speaker 2: House this afternoon, with the camera's roll laying keep that
Speaker 2: in mind. During the meeting, Trump called the Ukrainian president
Speaker 2: disrespectful end quote, and said, quote, you don't have the
Speaker 2: cards end quote when it comes to resolving the current
Speaker 2: war versus Russia. Just to put this in perspective, this
Speaker 2: three minutes of video, ladies and gentlemen, let me tell
Speaker 2: you it is worth every second for you to listen
Speaker 2: to this. I did not want to take this out
Speaker 2: this It'll be about three minutes. It is worth listening
Speaker 2: to this exchange between Zelensky, Vice President Vance, and President
Speaker 2: Trump in the Oval Office with the cameras rolling for
Speaker 2: the nation to see live.
Speaker 1: Check it out.
Speaker 3: What kind of diplomacy gg US became involved? What do
Speaker 3: you what do you what do you mean?
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to
Speaker 4: end the destruction of your country. But mister President, mister President,
Speaker 4: with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come
Speaker 4: into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in
Speaker 4: front of the American media. Right now, you guys are
Speaker 4: going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because
Speaker 4: you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president
Speaker 4: for trying to bring it into this conflict into Craine.
Speaker 3: That do you say, what problems we have?
Speaker 4: I have been to I have actually I've actually watched
Speaker 4: and seen the stories, and I know what happens is
Speaker 4: you bring people, bring them on a propaganda tour. Mister president,
Speaker 4: are do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people
Speaker 4: in your military? And do you think that respectful once
Speaker 4: to come to the Oval Office of the United States
Speaker 4: of America and attack the administration that is trying to
Speaker 4: trying to prevent the destruction of your country.
Speaker 3: A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning. First,
Speaker 3: wall during the war. Everybody has problems, even you, But
Speaker 3: you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you
Speaker 3: will feel it in the fusion.
Speaker 1: God, bless you don't know that.
Speaker 5: Blessed, you're blessed. You don't tell us what we're going
Speaker 5: to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell
Speaker 5: us what we're going to feel.
Speaker 3: I'm not telling you because you're in no position to
Speaker 3: dictate that.
Speaker 5: Remember this, you're in no position to dictate what we're
Speaker 5: going to feel. We're going to feel very good, feel influenced.
Speaker 5: We're gonna feel very good and very strong.
Speaker 3: It will feel influenced.
Speaker 5: You're right now not in a very good position. You've
Speaker 5: allowed you in a very bad position about the very
Speaker 5: beginning of the war. Not in a good position. You
Speaker 5: don't have the cards right now with us. You start
Speaker 5: having right now. You're playing. You're gambling with their lives
Speaker 5: and millions of people. You're gambling with world War three.
Speaker 5: You're gambling with world War three. And what you're doing
Speaker 5: is very disrespectful to the country. This country. It's back
Speaker 5: to you far more than a lot of people said
Speaker 5: they should have.
Speaker 4: Have you said thank you once this entire meeting. No,
Speaker 4: in this entire meeting, and you said thank you. You went
Speaker 4: to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer
Speaker 4: some words of appreciation for the United States of America
Speaker 4: and the president who's trying to save your country.
Speaker 3: Please, you're seeing that if you will, speak were loudly
Speaker 3: about the war.
Speaker 5: He's not speaking loudly. He's not speaking loudly. Your country
Speaker 5: is in big trouble. No, No, you've done a lot
Speaker 5: of talking. Your country is in big trouble. I know winning.
Speaker 1: You're not winning this.
Speaker 5: You have a damn good chance of coming out okay, because.
Speaker 6: Of the president.
Speaker 3: We're staying Yanawa country, staying strong. From the very beginning
Speaker 3: of the war, we've been alone and we are thankful.
Speaker 7: I said, we gave you, through this stupid president, three
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty billion dollars.
Speaker 5: Will we gave your military equipment.
Speaker 1: You and you met are.
Speaker 7: Brave, but they had to use our military one of all,
Speaker 7: if you didn't have our military equipment, I mean, you
Speaker 7: didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been
Speaker 7: over in two weeks.
Speaker 3: In three days, I heard it from Putin in three days.
Speaker 3: This is something maybe less in two weeks.
Speaker 6: Of course, yes, it's.
Speaker 5: Going to be a very hard thing to do business
Speaker 5: like this.
Speaker 2: Shortly afterwards, Zelinsky left the White House without signing a
Speaker 2: deal for the US to receive revenue from Ukraine's mineral
Speaker 2: supply in exchange for military assistance. President Trump said he's
Speaker 2: quote determined that President Zelinsky is not ready for peace
Speaker 2: if America is involved.
Speaker 6: End quote. I'm pro America. Let me get that out
Speaker 6: the way first.
Speaker 2: I'm an American citizen, and I'm going to try to
Speaker 2: give us the benefit of the doubt, knowing that we
Speaker 2: have an abundance of flaws as a nation in terms
Speaker 2: of our historical involvement in foreign affairs.
Speaker 6: There is no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: On one hand, there are two sides to this story.
Speaker 2: On one hand, if your president Selenski for Ukraine, who
Speaker 2: did campaign, I shouldn't say campaign, but was very supportive,
Speaker 2: as Vice President Vance pointed out, very supportive of the
Speaker 2: Body of the administration because they did give you over
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty million dollars, they did give you
Speaker 2: nearly a five hundred million worth of weapons, or they
Speaker 2: committed to that. Knowing the level of support that the
Speaker 2: Body and administration had given to Ukraine, how vociferous Biden
Speaker 2: was in his support for Ukraine. And by the way,
Speaker 2: that's going across the yall because you got Cenator Lindsay
Speaker 2: Graham on the Republican side, there has also been an
Speaker 2: avid supporter of Ukraine and their mission toward off Russia
Speaker 2: taking over their sovereign territory. I would look at Zelensky
Speaker 2: and I would say, not very smart to be butting
Speaker 2: heads with this administration, this White House at that particular
Speaker 2: moment in time. Trump is not wrong when he said
Speaker 2: you don't have all the cards. You don't have the cards.
Speaker 2: He's absolutely right about that, because Zelensky does not, Ukraine
Speaker 2: does not.
Speaker 6: It's projected that over a million.
Speaker 2: Lives have been lost, vast majority of them being from Ukraine.
Speaker 2: And when you're in an a war to a war
Speaker 2: torn country and you don't have the muscle and the mic,
Speaker 2: and Russia has already been gaining ground, it might behoove
Speaker 2: you to come across as a bit more cordial with
Speaker 2: the president President of the United States. Fair enough, that
Speaker 2: does not negate the fact that Trump Advance came across
Speaker 2: as bullies. It does not negate the fact that Vance
Speaker 2: brought up something as trivial, talking about you should say
Speaker 2: thank you and accusing him of being disrespectful. When Vance
Speaker 2: was the one that was talking and then Zalyinsky, they
Speaker 2: said it's your turn to speak, and Zalynsky said, hey,
Speaker 2: have you been to Ukraine?
Speaker 1: Do you know how many people we're in a war
Speaker 1: experiencing it?
Speaker 2: And when he asked Vice President Advance that he'd been there,
Speaker 2: he stumbled before acknowledging he hadn't been there. He had
Speaker 2: read and saw footage of what's happened in the Ukraine.
Speaker 2: It's safe to say that's not the same as being there.
Speaker 2: And for me personally, I didn't look at Zelensky is disrespectful.
Speaker 1: I looked at him trying to get in.
Speaker 2: A word because I looked at the Vice President chastising
Speaker 2: him for not being grateful, and the President piggybacking off
Speaker 2: of that to pounce on him some more about not
Speaker 2: understanding his plight and being thankful for the ceasefire that
Speaker 2: America has intervened to try and negotiate so this war
Speaker 2: between Russian and Ukraine can come to an end. Now,
Speaker 2: is it wrong for President Trump to finagle his way
Speaker 2: into the proceedings to get some of their minerals in
Speaker 2: exchange for US support or in an effort to recoup
Speaker 2: something for what they've given out to Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Not at all.
Speaker 2: As the United States of America, we're giving and giving
Speaker 2: and giving those at tax payer dollars, we have a
Speaker 2: right to get something in return if we can pull
Speaker 2: it off. I get that part. I'm not disagreeing with
Speaker 2: President Trump about that. See, this is where the centrist
Speaker 2: in me comes in. I'm not siding with Trump just
Speaker 2: because I got conservative views, and I'm not siding with
Speaker 2: Zelensky just because I have liberal views. I'm siding with
Speaker 2: common sense. Zelensky, knowing how much you need America's support,
Speaker 2: you need to be a bit more cordial and play
Speaker 2: a little nicer than that. The flip side to it
Speaker 2: is that he's at war. He has to depart from
Speaker 2: the United States of America go back to Ukraine in
Speaker 2: a war torn country with Bob's being dropped on his people,
Speaker 2: on his territory.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, wait a minute, y'all are talking to me like.
Speaker 2: I should have no sensitivity to my plight or to
Speaker 2: my people and should just throw out my arms and surrender.
Speaker 2: And capitulate to what Trump is negotiated. Let's hold on
Speaker 2: for a second here during the body and I'm sorry
Speaker 2: doing the Obama administration. In twenty fourteen, Russia did take
Speaker 2: over Crimea, if I remember correctly, that did happen. And
Speaker 2: when they took over Crimea, that was a part of Ukraine.
Speaker 2: Now its establishes Russian territory. And for Russia to start
Speaker 2: this war with Ukraine to take over.
Speaker 1: Parts of mainland Ukraine, they're right there to do it.
Speaker 2: And Zalinski was interrupted when he was making the point
Speaker 2: that when we negotiated back then, the negotiation that involved France,
Speaker 2: England and others said it was going to be a
Speaker 2: cease fire. Putin disavowed that, ignored it, and ultimately restarted
Speaker 2: war in twenty twenty two. So what he's saying is
Speaker 2: a cease fire isn't enough.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: We need security that we don't have to concern ourselves
Speaker 2: with Putin ultimately invading more of our territory moving forward,
Speaker 2: to just stop the fighting for the time being.
Speaker 1: He can't be trusted.
Speaker 2: And what trumping them is saying is, well, you better
Speaker 2: trust him by trusting us, because this is the best
Speaker 2: that you're going to get.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: The Ukrainian is a saying we have war.
Speaker 2: Now, we on death door, on death's door, we might
Speaker 2: as well go down.
Speaker 1: Swinging ladies and gentlemen. Who are we to.
Speaker 2: Argue with that position? Who are we to argue with
Speaker 2: that position? This man is the leader of Ukraine. Despite
Speaker 2: the fact that quote unquote, according to Trump, they are
Speaker 2: losing the war. There is no doubt that they have
Speaker 2: fought valiantly. Even Trump admitted their soldiers have fought valiantly
Speaker 2: orbit with US weapons.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that they fought valiantly. That's
Speaker 1: what they did.
Speaker 2: Pool is considered a dictator, has been labeled a murder
Speaker 2: on all of this other stuff, and the only person
Speaker 2: that speaks glowingly about him is Trump.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about what he says.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about what he does because I don't
Speaker 2: have all the into then tell about what he's done
Speaker 2: with or for Rusher.
Speaker 1: But come on, this man.
Speaker 2: Zelensky is at war, defending the very survival of his nation,
Speaker 2: and he's telling you that a ceasefire.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna cut the mustard.
Speaker 2: Because this man Putin has ignored ceasefire ceasefire agreement before
Speaker 2: and what he needs is security that the war will
Speaker 2: come to an end, and it won't be a cease fire.
Speaker 2: It will be protection by the involvement of the United
Speaker 2: States or anybody else to ensure that he no longer attacks,
Speaker 2: not that he just stops for the time being. And
Speaker 2: he's saying that this agreement doesn't provide that. And we're
Speaker 2: going to engage in condemnation about this man and be
Speaker 2: petty and talk about how you come into the Oval
Speaker 2: Office in the United States of America.
Speaker 1: Well, sir, how did he do that? President Trump? How
Speaker 1: did he do that? Vice President Vance? He didn't come into.
Speaker 2: The Oval Office on his own, by the way, he
Speaker 2: didn't have his interpreter either. He came in there by himself.
Speaker 2: Y'all are interrupting him.
Speaker 1: Listen, that's like.
Speaker 2: Me speaking Spanish or Francis if I know the language
Speaker 2: a little bit. Could you at least be quiet and
Speaker 2: let me speak, because it's a challenge for me to
Speaker 2: speak your language. It's a challenge for him to speak
Speaker 2: fluent English. It's a challenge for him to make sure
Speaker 2: that he coachingly and fluently gets his thoughts across. Could
Speaker 2: you have let him finish speaking? Vance didn't do that.
Speaker 2: Trump didn't do that. So, no, Zelensky didn't handle it right,
Speaker 2: And no, he should not have been as contankerous as
Speaker 2: a politician. As a leader, you have to be a
Speaker 2: bit more composed than that.
Speaker 1: Guilty is charged. But that ain't his oval office, that's ours.
Speaker 2: The person residing in it is Donald Trump is the
Speaker 2: President of the United States with Dvance. Dear Zolensky ain't
Speaker 2: there without their invite. Those cameras are not there without
Speaker 2: Trump and his administrations invite.
Speaker 1: They allowed that environment to exist.
Speaker 2: This is Zelenski and Ukraine facilitating all of this.
Speaker 1: This was them, and we're gonna just look at him
Speaker 1: like he's the villain.
Speaker 2: Can we at least acknowledge that there must be a
Speaker 2: level of understanding to the fact that the man is
Speaker 2: fighting for Ukraine's very survival as a sovereign nation and
Speaker 2: that the circumstances upon which he's living in which he's
Speaker 2: scheduled to go back to is not the same as
Speaker 2: President Trump and Vice President Vance and what they have
Speaker 2: to deal with here in the United States of America.
Speaker 2: They may have been right in some of the things
Speaker 2: that they were saying.
Speaker 6: But they were also bullies and this man.
Speaker 2: Who's literally on the battlefield responded, whether it's a soldier
Speaker 2: or a general or whatever, that's how he responded. Because
Speaker 2: they ain't the ones that got bombs being dropped on them.
Speaker 1: He does.
Speaker 2: On their hospitals, on their schools, on childcare facilities, everywhere.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm not saying that President Trump and Vice
Speaker 2: President Vance was totally wrong and the things that they
Speaker 2: were saying. Once again, the art of the quorum and
Speaker 2: decency play a role in.
Speaker 6: All of this. You could actually do both and be right.
Speaker 2: You didn't have to do that. For all we know,
Speaker 2: Zelensky might be dead in a month for a bomb
Speaker 2: being dropped on some place where he's at. We ain't
Speaker 2: worried about.
Speaker 6: That, were President Trump and Vice President Vance.
Speaker 2: America hasn't lost nearly a million lives in this war
Speaker 2: over the last two years.
Speaker 6: I mean, damn, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We ain't talking politics conservative, liberal, We're talking about leadership
Speaker 2: from our statesman, the President of the United States.
Speaker 6: And how that hand that I was handled.
Speaker 2: It looked elementary, it was embarrassing, and Zelenski didn't handle
Speaker 2: it right. But if your country was being bombed into
Speaker 2: oblivion and you needed assistance, and the President of the
Speaker 2: United States was speaking more favorably about Putin than he
Speaker 2: was about you. And then you were getting lectured by
Speaker 2: the Vice President who's never been to Ukraine, who hasn't
Speaker 2: seen the worn, torn territory, and he's getting on you
Speaker 2: for not being grateful. How would you have reacted. I
Speaker 2: don't know I answer to that question, but I know
Speaker 2: it's a legitimate, damn question.