WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 130: Keep It Moving

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<v Speaker 1>This week on a Happy half Hour. I know it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a cop out or sounds like the easiest

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<v Speaker 1>thing to say, but sometimes the best thing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with one that gets off the rails like that one

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<v Speaker 1>did is just process tape, go through the talking points

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, learn the lessons everybody except their role in

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<v Speaker 1>what went wrong. Keep it moving.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the how it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Happy half Hour with your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Darren Ghant and Cassidy Hill. Hello, friends, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the Happy half Hour. And I swear to God it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be happy at some point eventually. But right

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be. It's right there in the title.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're contractually obligated. We're also contractually obligated to say.

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<v Speaker 1>The Happy half Hours presented by Southern Star, an official

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<v Speaker 1>bourbon partner of the Carolina Panthers, celebrate the spirit of

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<v Speaker 1>the Carolinas. That makes you happy or you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>drown your sorrows, whatever works. That was a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>That was something.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Uh, we're both so Southern that we immediately

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<v Speaker 2>responded with that was something.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh. That was something. Bless it's heart. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a real thing that just happened to us. It was, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we are not going to spend all that much time

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<v Speaker 1>dwelling on that thing. And it's almost like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>even call it by name. But yeah, that started about

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<v Speaker 1>his own which will be named. Yeah. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>started out bad and it kept getting worse and worse,

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<v Speaker 1>and it did it in a hurry, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things. It I think because there

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<v Speaker 1>was so much new We talked about this in the

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<v Speaker 1>mailbag a couple of weeks ago, because there were so

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<v Speaker 1>much new new GM, new coach, you know, forty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the roster, you know, people in jobs they've never

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<v Speaker 1>had before. It's a short step from new to hope.

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<v Speaker 1>And because that had been created by all these fresh

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<v Speaker 1>faces and all these new people and all these exciting developments.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when a fourty seventy ten game lands in

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<v Speaker 1>your lap, and it lands in a hurry, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's seventeen nothing after the first quarter, ten nothing after

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes, you know, then people are reeling. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's because of the expectations and because it was

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<v Speaker 1>so out of line with everything everybody was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>expecting to see from a new and improved offense that

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<v Speaker 1>it just kind of rattled a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great point, because, I mean, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, it was seventeen nothing. They were

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<v Speaker 2>drinking from a fire hose a little bit. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you hear coaches say you just got to take it

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<v Speaker 2>one play at a time, one play at a time,

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<v Speaker 2>But when you're down seventeen nothing in the blink of

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<v Speaker 2>an eye, you really can't take it one play at

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<v Speaker 2>a time. You lose a lot of your run game

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<v Speaker 2>when you get down that quick, that early, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of this offense is sort of predicated on the

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<v Speaker 2>run game being able to open things up a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit for Bryce, and you know, when you're the defense

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<v Speaker 2>and you get down that early, I mean, they were

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<v Speaker 2>on the field for my goodness. I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>it was not quite double the amount of plays, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was almost a full quarter more than

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<v Speaker 2>the offense was. Defense was on the field for thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six minutes and thirty nine seconds versus offense, which was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three minutes. Yep. That's almost a full extra quarter

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<v Speaker 2>of football field.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things we've talked about over and

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<v Speaker 1>over in this space for the last two or three years,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like is when it happens like that, usually

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<v Speaker 1>it's one side of the ball. The good news about

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<v Speaker 1>this one was it was every side of the all

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the offense obviously struggled to move. Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>turned it over a couple of times. Jonathan Mingo fumbles.

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<v Speaker 1>Defense gives up one hundred and eighty on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>to a team that we didn't think was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a dominant running team this season. Special teams gets

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<v Speaker 1>a plot block, some big returns. Now Johnny Hecker's on

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<v Speaker 1>the injury report, and we'll see how that goes the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the week. But this thing got sideways fast.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like to say once avalanches start going downhill,

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<v Speaker 1>they very seldom stop and turn around and go back up.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just kind of kept going that way the

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<v Speaker 1>whole day, and it was the whole thing. It was systemic.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all three phases, as the football people like

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<v Speaker 1>to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Matthews made I thought an interesting point, which I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, if anyone else had made it, I probably

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<v Speaker 2>would have scoffed. But Jordan Matthews has been around a

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<v Speaker 2>long time and he's a very smart man, so I

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<v Speaker 2>listened when he says stuff, and he said, all three

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<v Speaker 2>phases are walking around here with egg on their face.

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<v Speaker 2>And it almost makes it a little easier to move

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<v Speaker 2>forward because you don't have anybody at all that's walking

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<v Speaker 2>in here with their head held hide and saying, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I did my job where I messed up, because then

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<v Speaker 2>you get a little bit of okay, now this person's

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward to this person's not, and it just creates

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<v Speaker 2>at tension. He said, everybody needs to move forward together

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<v Speaker 2>because we all showed badly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeahly, I mean. And again we've seen it in the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years cases where the defense can say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing our part. We're trying to hold up our

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<v Speaker 1>end when the offense can't move the ball and we

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<v Speaker 1>were out there all day. This stuff's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's been a thing, whether anybody said it out loud

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<v Speaker 1>or not, that is a real thing. And this time

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<v Speaker 1>nobody can point fingers at anybody because it was all bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And so one of the things that thinks come through

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<v Speaker 1>in the last couple of days. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>sort of when I'm trying to get big picture perspective

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<v Speaker 1>on things, there's certain people I like to talk to,

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<v Speaker 1>including Jake Gloom and Luke Keigley, because they've been around

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<v Speaker 1>and they've seen some things. And I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Luke the other day, as you can read on Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, and I said, Luke, what's that plane ride

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<v Speaker 1>home like when you take one like that? Because Luke

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<v Speaker 1>was a part of a fifty one thirteen beating at

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco that was an even worse beating and an

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<v Speaker 1>even longer flight home. And Luke, in his very Luke

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<v Speaker 1>Keighley way, said well, you know, I'd sit there and

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to Colin Jones for a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 1>me and Khalil would talk, and then I'd wander up

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<v Speaker 1>to the front of the plane talk to JJ and

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<v Speaker 1>DA and Greg the boys, and Cam's usually taking a

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<v Speaker 1>nap by that point. So then I would come back

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<v Speaker 1>and I would sit down in my seat, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>eats my ice cream as.

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<v Speaker 2>One does as one does, and I mean I also

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<v Speaker 2>draw my sorrows in ice cream.

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<v Speaker 1>Lukey c Yeah. So Luke, he's just like the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of us. But I think his greater point was you

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<v Speaker 1>have to recognize that this was a bad one, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was one and especially now that it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen instead of one and sixteen as it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the time when Luke was playing. You kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have to compartmentalize the whole thing and turn it off.

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<v Speaker 1>And Luke's point was, you don't freak out about it

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday night because you can't get ahead. You come

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<v Speaker 1>in Monday, you look at film, you take what you

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<v Speaker 1>can learn from the film, you put it in the

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<v Speaker 1>rear view mirror. You show up to practice on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>You practice that getting the things better that you learned

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<v Speaker 1>about on Monday, and then everything's forward. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>know it sounds like cop out or sounds like the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest thing to say, but sometimes the best thing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with one that gets off the rails like that

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<v Speaker 1>one did is just process the tape, go through the

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<v Speaker 1>talking points on Monday, learn the lessons everybody except their

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<v Speaker 1>role in what went wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>And keep it moving and don't let it beat you

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<v Speaker 2>twice yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's the thing that's important is you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>serious opponent coming in this weekend. After giving up one

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<v Speaker 1>ad on the ground against the Saints. Oh congratulations, here's

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<v Speaker 1>a Jim harball team. Guess what they're going to try

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<v Speaker 1>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Run it straight down off the throat, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the way they're built. They've got Bradley Boseman

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the line, so he's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>people here know well. And they're serious about straight ahead

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<v Speaker 1>running in a way that we have seen before. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely something they've got to get buttoned up in

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<v Speaker 1>a hurry. And oh, by the way, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>get it buttoned up without Derek Brown. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing that's probably as problematic as any because

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<v Speaker 1>there can be some emotional carry over there, because as

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Canalis said the other day, it's not just replacing

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<v Speaker 1>one guy, it's replacing that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at this game and regardless of the time

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<v Speaker 2>of the score, it's pat or it's field goal, and

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<v Speaker 2>Derek is rushing with full effort the whole time. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the spirit of what we want to be about with

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<v Speaker 2>the finish.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, that's it. Derek is more than just

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<v Speaker 1>a really good football player. He's the guy who's out

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<v Speaker 1>there leading all the lines, running sprints before practice and OTAs.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the guy showing up and doing extra He's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who you know, just got a one hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar contract this offseason, but he doesn't act like it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still Derek. He's still wandering around looking the same

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<v Speaker 1>as he looked before he got the big contract and

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<v Speaker 1>working the same way he worked before he got the contract.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, that's why you get contracts like that by

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<v Speaker 1>being that player who works that way. So it's been

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<v Speaker 1>it's been tough at an emotional level for these guys too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest thing that you have to do there, Darren,

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<v Speaker 2>is understand that essentially you can't replace Derek Brown. You're

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<v Speaker 2>just going to have to make up for his absence.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think there's a difference in that mindset because

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<v Speaker 2>if you're trying to replace Derek Brown, you're asking people

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<v Speaker 2>to do things that aren't necessarily in their wheelhouse, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not going to look the same. But Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how can we make what it is going to look

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<v Speaker 2>like work? And that's going to take some stepping up

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<v Speaker 2>from Shy Tunnel, from Mashawn Robinson, everybody in that front seven,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do they play the linebackers closer to the

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<v Speaker 2>line just to kind of help with some of those

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<v Speaker 2>run fits. Those run fits especially, are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>something that they have to be really really sharp on.

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<v Speaker 1>This week.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Scott told us yesterday he said, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>thing with the Chargers in their run game is essentially

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<v Speaker 2>they can lull you to sleep, because he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they were averaging two point five yards of pop for

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<v Speaker 2>most of that game, and all of a sudden in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter they break off two fifty plus yard

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<v Speaker 2>runs and they really start running down their throat from

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<v Speaker 2>that point, he said, So, you know, we're just we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to be super super disciplined in our run fits,

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<v Speaker 2>not get bored, and not try to force anything. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>try to chase a tackle for loss, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>then if you're chasing a tackle for loss and they

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<v Speaker 2>get by you, JK. Dobbins is gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know. And one of the things that people

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<v Speaker 1>who say football words like to say is you got

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<v Speaker 1>to play run defense with all eleven. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>as good class to the ball, as good as that

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<v Speaker 1>one guy is, you know, he can be as good

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<v Speaker 1>as he wants to be. But if one other part

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<v Speaker 1>breaks down, that's when you see runs getting gashed down

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<v Speaker 1>the field. To your point, cast and so you can

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<v Speaker 1>play sound run defense with people who don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be Derek Brown, but everybody's got to be buttoned up.

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<v Speaker 1>It cuts into your margin of era obviously, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're taking one of the best run defenders in

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<v Speaker 1>the entire NFL out of the lineup for the next

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen weeks. And now you've got to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they brought in Deshaun Williams to the practice

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<v Speaker 1>squad this week. Could see him elevated this week, depends

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<v Speaker 1>on how ready to go he is. But they've got

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<v Speaker 1>to count on a Shawn. They've got to count on

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<v Speaker 1>Shy Tuttle and Nick Thurman and Lebrin Ray and Jaden

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<v Speaker 1>Peevie because it has to be a collective thing and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just those front line guys. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>linebackers are going to play a big role in this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe that that was one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>problems last year. But when the run defense struggled, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have Shaq Thompson in the middle after Week two,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were trying to turn Frankie Luvu into something

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<v Speaker 1>he was not. They were trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>to get defenses called without you know, their longtime captain oldhead,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, provider of veteran wisdom, whatever you want to say, Shaq.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a mess. But now Shaq's back. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a Josie Jewel there. I believe even though Trevin Wallace

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get a defensive snap in last week, we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to see more and more of him as the

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<v Speaker 1>season goes along, just because I think you have to

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<v Speaker 1>mix some things up. I think, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>alike for like comparison to say he's like Frankie Luvu,

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<v Speaker 1>because very few people are like Frankie Luvu. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think Wileace has the opportunity to be that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>wild card type player on defense where you can put

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<v Speaker 1>him in a lot of different spots. And they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do that last week. But I think his season goes on,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just going to be natural that you start to

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<v Speaker 1>see more and more of that guy as they try

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with some answers on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>A little he plays a little bit with his hair

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<v Speaker 2>on fire too. Yeah, he actually doesn't have much hair

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<v Speaker 2>because he keeps his shaved close. But what he does have,

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<v Speaker 2>he plays with it on fire. We talked to we

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<v Speaker 2>will talk to Everro today and I'm sure he's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to give away his game plan, but I am

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<v Speaker 2>interested to hear what he has to say about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>could they go a little heavier in that front or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I can't imagine he would ever play like

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<v Speaker 2>a fifty hunder or anything, but you know, just kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of look load saying football words.

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<v Speaker 2>I've picked up a few things here and there, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine they would do that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>do you do you lean that way a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>here and there just because you don't have Derek Brown

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<v Speaker 2>there who could take on double teams, who could who

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<v Speaker 2>could recolle Ligne and maybe just kind of replace him

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<v Speaker 2>with more than one body.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be a challenge, There's no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about that. And and that's the thing. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to figure out some answers. And the good

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<v Speaker 1>news is that EJ has proven over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, whether it was his time in Denver his

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<v Speaker 1>experience here, if there's anything the guy has proven himself

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<v Speaker 1>capable of doing, it's adjusting. Yeah, I mean, he he

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of injuries in Denver. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>traded his best pass rush in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>season a couple of years ago. Things have happened around

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<v Speaker 1>him that's forced him to adjust, and he's done a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good job of adjusting.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just secretly love this sort of stuff. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't not you don't love an injury though, don't

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<v Speaker 2>say that, but you love the challenge of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they tend to enjoy things that make

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<v Speaker 1>it harder because then it's like, all right, what can

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<v Speaker 1>we come up with? What can I scheme up to

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<v Speaker 1>fix this? I mean, you know, if you had a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen Derek Browns, defense would be easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, get a flag for having twelve men on the field,

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<v Speaker 2>but still.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them would be one of them. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them would always be in charge of making sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>eleven because there you get Eric's conscientious that way. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's going to be a challenge. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a challenge in all phases. But that's both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball. I mean, we talked a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about the special teams. They're breaking in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>new people this week. You know, Lonnie Johnson, Mike Boone

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<v Speaker 1>get their call ups to the fifty three after being

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<v Speaker 1>practice squaad promotions a week ago. So those two are

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<v Speaker 1>key parts to what Tracy Smith's trying to put together

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<v Speaker 1>in the Special team's room. It's it's constant change on

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<v Speaker 1>that side of the ball anyway, especially with the roster

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<v Speaker 1>turnover here lately. In talking of all those new people

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<v Speaker 1>in new roles, you know, it gets magnified for special

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<v Speaker 1>teams because everything is geared toward putting your best eleven

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<v Speaker 1>on the field offense and defense. Special teams coaches have

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<v Speaker 1>been making soup out of, you know, whatever's left over

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<v Speaker 1>in the fridge for years, and Tracy Smith's jobs even

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<v Speaker 1>more ambitious. I don't know if that's the right word

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Complicated is probably a better word, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they did claim six guys off waivers in week one.

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<v Speaker 1>They are shuffling guys in and out already this season,

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<v Speaker 1>so having guys like Lonnie, having guys like Mike Boone

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<v Speaker 1>can have a stabilizing effect on that. But it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take some time for some of that stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>get settled down. Because they did they allowed some big

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<v Speaker 1>returns the other week there. You know, it just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a tight operation. But I don't know that you can

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<v Speaker 1>fairly assume a tight operation, given the circumstances they've got

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<v Speaker 1>to work with.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm curious too, how much of those big returns had

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<v Speaker 2>to do with this really being the first time. Know

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<v Speaker 2>greented people on special teams were playing in the preseason,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is the first time you're really seeing teams

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<v Speaker 2>pull out what they're going to do with this new

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<v Speaker 2>kickoff rule. I'm curious as the season goes on if

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see some of that get tightened up, not just

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<v Speaker 2>here but around the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, things tend to regress to the mean, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was Archimedes law or Murphy's I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That was part of the pre show meeting the show

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<v Speaker 1>within the show here at the happy half hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried too hard. I philosophy too close to the sign.

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<v Speaker 2>Murphy's law is a basic one. I tried to get fancy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna discuss full crumbs on next

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<v Speaker 1>week half a half hour. That's really gonna goose the ratings.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be a bonanza, which philosopher said, give me a

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<v Speaker 2>full Groman, I can move the world.

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<v Speaker 1>That was archamedie. Is it really there?

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<v Speaker 2>You go? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's uh might have been more of a mathematician

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<v Speaker 1>than a philosopher. But anyway, so we uh, we will

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot to talk about next week. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that that match up against Chargers is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>so curious because there's going to be a lot of expectation.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if there was anything good about that game

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<v Speaker 1>last week, it was that it was in another place

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<v Speaker 1>and the home fans didn't have to endure that one.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there's going to be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>anticipation when people come into Bank of America Stadium on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday looking at the forecast. Could be a little damp, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>could be a little messy, could be And you know, frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that kind of plays into the game because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a Jim harball team wants to run. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that the Carolina Panthers would prefer to run, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the aftermath of that game last week, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going to want to take some stuff off

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce's plate, make it easier for him, allow him to

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<v Speaker 1>settle in. I mean, have that steady diet. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when the first pass of the game, first play of

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<v Speaker 1>the game gets picked off, you're behind the eight ball immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's hard to run with intent. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>run stubbornly, as Dave Canalis likes to say, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>down ten oh in the first three minutes of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So give us some wet conditions, give us two teams

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<v Speaker 1>that want to run the ball. Let's play a good

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<v Speaker 1>two hour and forty five minute football game and see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>If that first past had not been picked off, that

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<v Speaker 2>I would have loved that opener, because you come out

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<v Speaker 2>first play of the new season, new head coach, yard

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<v Speaker 2>lay caller. Let's throw it down there, Let's let's light

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<v Speaker 2>a fire. But then, of course it got dast very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeap, Hindsight's twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>But as the wise men Luke Keighley and our comedies

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<v Speaker 1>tell us, it is one game. Let's eat some mike

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<v Speaker 1>and move on. So anyway, what else we got this

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<v Speaker 1>week and week two? We gotta we have to revisit

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<v Speaker 1>our our newest happy half hour tradition, the happy half

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<v Speaker 1>hour jukebox. H I listened to your girl, Taylor Swift there,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the name of that song? Right where you left,

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<v Speaker 1>right where you left me? Yeah, she's complicated that one. Huh, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a lot. I am not a big

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<v Speaker 1>consumer of the Taylor Swift product, as you may be aware.

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<v Speaker 1>And I listened to that three or four times through

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<v Speaker 1>on a couple of different occasions last week, and Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's got some issues unpacked there, doesn't she?

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<v Speaker 2>That one. I think that's why I like that one too,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, she does this in a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>her songs, but that one's a really good example where

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<v Speaker 2>she just like takes a first breath, starts in, and

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<v Speaker 2>then doesn't let up until the song is over.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she opened a vein there and just led all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place. It was the one thing I do

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy about her. And I was kind of aware of

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<v Speaker 1>this in a you know, atmospheric way without diving deeply

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<v Speaker 1>into her catalog. She is obviously an incredible writer, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what you know. One of my cousins is

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<v Speaker 2>a very very talented musician. That's what he went to

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<v Speaker 2>school for. It's what he does. And he likes to

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<v Speaker 2>post these tiktoks with where he like rewrites the music

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<v Speaker 2>to pre existing songs, and he did our Taylor slipt

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<v Speaker 2>on this week, and I kind of made a joke

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<v Speaker 2>on it like, it just proves that she can write

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<v Speaker 2>a song that can go in any genre. All these

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<v Speaker 2>musicians that follow him wanted to come after me and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, anybody can write a four chord progression, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't really care about the music part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. I'm a writer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>I want a lyric that's going to reach into my

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<v Speaker 2>heart and squeeze good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it did that that song. Good songs are

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<v Speaker 1>usually either stories or poems, and that one was a

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<v Speaker 1>poem because it was it was tight, it was evocative,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I was kind of I wanted to give

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<v Speaker 1>her a hug at the end of that song because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, it's gonna be okay, Tita, we gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>through this and be okay. I handed you a story

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<v Speaker 1>song you did.

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<v Speaker 2>Very much a story. A song that I had heard before.

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<v Speaker 1>Me Jo and Lefty, written by Towns van Zant, popularized

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<v Speaker 1>by Willie Nilson and Merle Hacker.

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<v Speaker 2>The Willie Nelson and Merle Hagger version is the version

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<v Speaker 2>that I've grown up listening to. So it threw me

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<v Speaker 2>for a loop a little bit the first time it

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<v Speaker 2>got to the chorus, and that all the Feeder, and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't the voice I was used to hearing that

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<v Speaker 2>in And so then I like had to start the

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<v Speaker 2>song over because I'm like, Okay, I need to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to this with like a fresh mind. But beautiful song,

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<v Speaker 2>I like I said, it's one of those songs that

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<v Speaker 2>I've known for a long time, so it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of lived in my conscious. But since I was

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<v Speaker 2>purposely like listening to it a little closely this week,

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<v Speaker 2>or more closely than normal, I really started to pay attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Did Lefty sell him out? And that's how Pancho got killed? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the story?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>That did he sell him out? And that's how he

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<v Speaker 2>got the money to move to Ohio?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I mean, some people just do what they

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<v Speaker 1>have to do, and that what it says in the song.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it is quite a journey that one. Now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to Towns van Zant. Did you check out

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<v Speaker 1>any of the alternate versions?

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<v Speaker 2>I suggest I saved the other one, you said, but

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of kept listening to the Towns Vanzana because

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<v Speaker 2>the one that I clicked. I didn't even realize that

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<v Speaker 2>at first, but it ended up being a live version,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love a good live version of a of

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<v Speaker 2>a storytelling song. You know, it's like one of those

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<v Speaker 2>I love that the Eagles have never recorded Seven Bridges

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<v Speaker 2>Road in a studio, they only do it live.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's probably for the best. It's Yeah, that is

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite songs of all time, of all categories,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love it when people from different backgrounds do

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<v Speaker 1>it because when you hear you know and again Townsvan's

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<v Speaker 1>Ant's one of the great songwriters of American history. He

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<v Speaker 1>has influenced so many people that I love listening to.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you hear his songs performed by an Emmy

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<v Speaker 1>Lou Harris, it takes on a different tone. When you

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<v Speaker 1>hear it performed by an English punk rock singerrate Frank Turner,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes a different way. So, I mean, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I love is when you take a song like that

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<v Speaker 1>that is timeless and give it about three or four

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<v Speaker 1>different treatments, you hear something different every time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what it made me think of is actually

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<v Speaker 2>another Willie Nelsons song. And so I've been walking around

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<v Speaker 2>for the past three or four days singing there were

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<v Speaker 2>seven Spanish Angels.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's never a bad time for Willie. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you got for me this week? What is

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<v Speaker 1>my assignment? What am I listening to?

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<v Speaker 2>I went back and forth a lot because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>do I want to stray from Taylor? Do I want

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<v Speaker 2>to stay with Taylor? And then I was like if

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<v Speaker 2>I do, what kind of what genre of Taylor? Do

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<v Speaker 2>we want to stay in? You, like you said, are

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<v Speaker 2>a story teller at heart, like myself, So I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to stay in that vein hit me and

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<v Speaker 2>go with Ivy Ivy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I will listen to Ivy a few times

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<v Speaker 1>this week and report back to you. I was, I

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<v Speaker 1>had probably planned on giving you something else, but just

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of bring up, I went to see one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite bands, Shovels and Rope last night at

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<v Speaker 1>the Neighborhood Theater. An incredible show. But as an old

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to suggest that we start having concerts

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<v Speaker 1>at like six o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, these like nine o'clock concert things that.

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<v Speaker 1>Started at nine on a weeknight or a little tough

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<v Speaker 1>for an old cat like me. But Shelson Rope always

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<v Speaker 1>give good show. They did not play this last night,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of an off the menu sort of hit.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have a song called mary Anne and One

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<v Speaker 1>Eyed Dan love it and if that don't get you

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<v Speaker 1>off to a good start, nothing will. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little more upbeat than what I made you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>and Poncho and Lefty last week. So yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Ivy's not more upbeat, So have fun? Would that?

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<v Speaker 1>There you go? Well, let's just send ourselves into a

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<v Speaker 1>deep dark depression. No way, we did that already. This

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be the Happy half Hour. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I gave you a little something to go out on

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<v Speaker 1>that's got a little more pep in your step. So listen.

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<v Speaker 1>As Luke Keigley says, it's one week, let's eat some

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream, move forward and we will see you next

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<v Speaker 1>week on the Happy half Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanky