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Speaker 1: To be Around the Unit L Podcast, A big bad

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Speaker 1: blogger boy. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Greg Rosenthal, and I'm surrounded

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Speaker 1: in a city filled with heroes. In Bunker's Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, and Patrick Claibon coming through from What's Up?

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Speaker 1: What's Up? Big day for Patrick's. I mean, the show

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Speaker 1: got delayed because our Patrick, Patrick Claibn had to jump

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Speaker 1: back back on television in his suit. He's wearing a

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Speaker 1: tie right now, much uh much better dress than Marker,

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Speaker 1: Ricky and I and U and had to uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: had to report the big Patrick Mahomes contract which started

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Speaker 1: right before we started taping, which I which I feel

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Speaker 1: like is is good luck, you know, great great day

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Speaker 1: for Patrick's. Yeah, I mean, yeah, We've had a few,

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Speaker 1: I guess good ones, um since the last good one,

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Speaker 1: which was when Patrick Mahains won the Super Bowl. But

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Speaker 1: you know, like my daughter was born, I'm taking over

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Speaker 1: her room to uh to do work stuff and talk

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Speaker 1: to you guys, which is fun, but it's uh, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was an interesting few minutes there because we had

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Speaker 1: talked about, you know, to open up the kimono a

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Speaker 1: little bit, uh, you know, trying to do this around

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Speaker 1: noon and then I look at my Twitter time on

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Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, well, I guess they're gonna want

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Speaker 1: to do this, so uh we had to wait for

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Speaker 1: Mike Silver to get on the phone with somebody so

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Speaker 1: we could do it. And it's like, yeah, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: give him a lot of money. All right, cool, see

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Speaker 1: you later. Watch Total Access tonight, and I mean it

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Speaker 1: is assured that it's assured that this show. Um, we

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Speaker 1: we float a starting time out there episode after episode

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Speaker 1: and it's something we'll get in the way, and this

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Speaker 1: time it was real news. I mean, I would say

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Speaker 1: also just to uh on the celebration of Patrick, you

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Speaker 1: have not that this is something that everyone celebrates sekily,

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Speaker 1: but an annual holiday of an I wish based um

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Speaker 1: platform celebrating Patrick's in March every year. So winning, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I pay homage to to you know, my Irish heritage.

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have a lot of stay in

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Speaker 1: the matter, but yeah, you know, it's it's a it's

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Speaker 1: it's a fun it's a fun shout out to you know,

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Speaker 1: look back, yeah, our list, there's maybe wondering, you know

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Speaker 1: where where's Dan Dan at you know? I believe he's

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Speaker 1: either hanging out with his brother, our host Dan Hansas

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Speaker 1: Um or he's you know, in day three of three

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Speaker 1: part interview UM with The Gatesville Messenger and I just

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Speaker 1: couldn't do the show. He will be back on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: We're still doing two shows a week until training camp starts,

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Speaker 1: assuming it does start. And Uh, I feel like we

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Speaker 1: were already into the news. Maybe maybe let's do the

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Speaker 1: chit chat at the end. Well, we should. I do

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Speaker 1: want to do a catch up. I do want to

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Speaker 1: do a catch up because I want to see what

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Speaker 1: like people were doing. This was the closest thing we

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Speaker 1: had to like an NFL ish week off last week.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like we're already into the into the news.

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Speaker 1: So Ricky, let's let's do some news. I think we

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Speaker 1: finally arrived at the moment in time where we're going

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Speaker 1: to say goodbye to this nickname that uh clearly was

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Speaker 1: racist and has been a blight on the league for

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Speaker 1: a long long time. Well said there by Mike Silver

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Speaker 1: talking about the Washington team name change that was on

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Speaker 1: air just a few hours ago with Patrick Claiban. Again,

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Speaker 1: what a day and We'll get to that news in

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Speaker 1: just a minute, but we gotta start. We're gonna start

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Speaker 1: with Mahomes. We already have and Silver was the one

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Speaker 1: who confirmed the story UH for us at NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: But Adam Schefter broke it. And since he broke it,

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Speaker 1: he's broken a few more terms. First of all, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a twelve year contract. It's ten new years

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Speaker 1: tacked on to the two already left on his rookie deal.

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Speaker 1: It is expected to total more than four hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars UH in total. But we don't really know any

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Speaker 1: more details as we are are taping this. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I think Schefter and I was gonna, I honestly was

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Speaker 1: I at least know our guy, Ian would do something

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Speaker 1: and you know, Schefter is loving dropping this bomb while

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Speaker 1: on a social media platform. But I only mentioned it

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Speaker 1: because it took a while to confirm it, and that's

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Speaker 1: and it's ultimately news that you know, we expected at

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Speaker 1: some point, but we just didn't know when it was

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Speaker 1: Schefter has kind of part and parceled this out, and

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Speaker 1: I think he would if it were not for the climate,

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Speaker 1: right of like what's he doing right now? That he

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Speaker 1: let's do it total terms, so it's gonna be twelve

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Speaker 1: total years. They're tacking it on. This is the up

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not out of schefter. I've seen that got

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Speaker 1: so much of the perception where that the up to

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Speaker 1: boring it's a boring, repetitive take that we've had on

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Speaker 1: um and and even the takes that are like why

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Speaker 1: would Patrick Mahomes do this? Like why sign any tenure contract?

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Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta see the deal. And Schefter did

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Speaker 1: The key is the next few years after that, they'll

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Speaker 1: like Donovan McNabb signing twelve year extensions drew BLEDSOE people

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Speaker 1: mentioned but the tenure commitment in the league, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad for both parties. Why not lock mahomes down

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Speaker 1: a couple of years from now, as you said, Greg,

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Speaker 1: of day. I mean, it's sort of just a it's

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Speaker 1: And you've got a wiggle room there but the idea

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Speaker 1: you've floated out there that you think that Mahomes could

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Speaker 1: that behind the scenes they were just in love with him,

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Speaker 1: going away. He's gonna haunt that narrative for a decade

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Speaker 1: to come. Right. He he has played better in his

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Speaker 1: any quarterback I've ever seen, and I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: I don't think we needed to see these full two years.

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Speaker 1: still imagine being on the Chiefs in ten years, but

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Speaker 1: great to be a Chiefs fan. And it's great to

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Speaker 1: be Andy Reid. It's great to be Patrick Mahomes. Teammates

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Speaker 1: Indian country deserves nothing less. The time to change is now,

429
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Speaker 1: and that leads us to, you know, what they will

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Speaker 1: do with the the name. And supposedly there's two names

431
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: that have you know, come to the forefront. And the

432
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: statement by um Ron Rivera was the one quoted in

433
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: it uh not not ownership. Um did mention um native history,

434
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: but also mentioned military history and and supposedly, and we

435
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: don't know that these are the two names, but these

436
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: are the two that keep getting floated out there, so

437
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm guessing these are the two names that Ron Rivera

438
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: mentioned that he likes. Two names that are being talked

439
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 1: about are the Red Tails Um which uh, you know,

440
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: has a World War Two Black air fighting background, and

441
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: then the Warriors, which would be more of like a

442
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: native background, And those are those are the two. Those

443
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Speaker 1: are the two that that they're thinking about. I don't

444
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Speaker 1: know if I have a take on like which which

445
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: they should do or whatever, but it's really it's really

446
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: interesting to see Ron Rivera be so front and center.

447
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: There's reporting that Dan Snyder that the owner has been

448
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: out of the country, and look, Rivera, just like he

449
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: did with with kind of representing the team after the

450
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: murder of George Floyd, Um is doing the same now,

451
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 1: you know, is the one kind of representing them. And

452
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: so when you sign up for that coaching job, especially

453
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: right now because there's no executives there like Bruce Allen,

454
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: that's part of what you're signing up for. It's a

455
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: little different than than other teams, and it's it's unfortunate that,

456
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, over the course of the franchise's history, once

457
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: they started allowing minorities to play on the team. UM

458
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: that minority players, UM fans have kind of bore the

459
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Speaker 1: brunt of this conversation. And that's it's unfortunate that Ron Rivera,

460
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Speaker 1: who want to four minority coaches in the NFL, UM

461
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: is kind of tasked with handling this. But you feel

462
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Speaker 1: better I guess with him in that position than the

463
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: person who has maintained over the course is that he

464
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Speaker 1: is not changing the name and so UM it took

465
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Speaker 1: a lot to get Dan Snyder where where he is now.

466
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Speaker 1: I don't know what role other people will play in

467
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: making a name change. I know personally my my father's

468
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: from Tuskegee. UM. I've tried to meet every Tuskegee Airman

469
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: that I could for our listeners, especially overseas. But anywhere,

470
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: what do you what can you give us a little

471
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Speaker 1: background that might not be figuring? Red Tales is a

472
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Speaker 1: reference to a fighter squadron UM flue P fifty one

473
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: Mustangs the Tuskegee Airmen in World War Two. They were

474
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Speaker 1: mainly a bomber escort group at a time where UM,

475
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: you know the power structure of the American military didn't

476
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: necessarily allow black men or women to be in leadership

477
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Speaker 1: roles or even be in the same platoons or divisions

478
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Speaker 1: as white soldiers. And they had a sterling record as

479
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: far as escort and bombers, never losing one over the

480
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Speaker 1: course of their years in Germany. And you know they

481
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: came home, Um, you know it should have been heroes,

482
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: but were did not access to a lot of the

483
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Speaker 1: programs that that made you know, that era of America

484
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Speaker 1: quote on great. Uh, you know, your access to the

485
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: g I Bill wasn't the same as a black American

486
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Speaker 1: And so there's there's so much American history tied into that.

487
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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, for me personally, any name is

488
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Speaker 1: an upgrade over a slur um. But for for me personally, um,

489
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Speaker 1: you know, the small handful of those men that we

490
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Speaker 1: have left, I'd want to hear from them because if

491
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Speaker 1: if we can honor their legacy and history with the

492
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Speaker 1: name and then they feel good with it, I'm I'm

493
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Speaker 1: all for it. But I would hate to see those

494
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Speaker 1: men in the sacrifices and what they did, um, and

495
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: what they had to deal with when they returned home.

496
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Speaker 1: I would hate to see them reduced to a mascot.

497
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Speaker 1: But if they're okay with it, I'm okay with it. Yeah,

498
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: if they're okay with it, that would be my preference too,

499
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Speaker 1: because if the only if the other option, and that

500
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Speaker 1: probably will be others out there, but Warriors to me, obviously,

501
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: I think of the NBA team, and I think of

502
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: like eight hundred and fifty high school scattered across the

503
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Speaker 1: country with the same very um well tread nicknames. So

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Speaker 1: I would prefer the previous and um if it to me,

505
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: it feels original, it works, and it would be quite

506
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Speaker 1: a spectrum shift from what's name previously well and and

507
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Speaker 1: I don't want to spend the whole show on this,

508
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: but it really is like worth going back and looking

509
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Speaker 1: how this happened, because last week there was a report

510
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Speaker 1: that eight seven investment firms. At least this was the

511
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Speaker 1: first that I saw of it. And if either of

512
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Speaker 1: you want to correct me, um eighty seven investment from

513
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: sent letters to FedEx and PEPSI, some of the biggest

514
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Speaker 1: sponsors of watching of the of the football team, and

515
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: said if you don't, um, if they don't change the name,

516
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: like we're gonna, you know, stop supporting you, and then

517
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Speaker 1: pretty quickly Pepsi, FedEx, and Nike, you know, within days,

518
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: all threatened UM to remove their sponsorship from the team.

519
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: Now FedEx, it's his owner is a minority owner of

520
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Speaker 1: the team, and their name is on the field. And

521
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: Nike right now took all the Washington you know, apparel offline,

522
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: and they did that even before uh you know what,

523
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: you know, they announced that they they're going to look

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Speaker 1: into changing the name and and it's it's still offline.

525
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: And on top of that, there's been reports that these

526
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: minority owners, including UM, you know, the owner of FedEx,

527
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: all want to sell their their shares of the team too,

528
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: which is which is another part of it. I think

529
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Speaker 1: even whether it means to be seen whether that changes

530
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Speaker 1: based on the name change or not, but that that's

531
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Speaker 1: been the reporting that that's going to be part of

532
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: this story too. So I can't help but think back

533
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: we were just talking about this, I think it was

534
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: the last time you were on the show. Patrick. It's

535
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: very similar to how the government threatened this team UM

536
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: with finances basically unless they allowed black players onto the team,

537
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: that they would have problems with their stadium in Washington.

538
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: And again here. It wasn't the government, it was corporation

539
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: saying basically, we're gonna take away your money, and the

540
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: decision was almost made for them. It's just sort of fascinating,

541
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: how what is its sixty almost sixty years later it

542
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: repeats itself and it's it's kind of you know, free

543
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: Dan Snyder from having to say that he made the

544
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: decision himself, um, because he's he's maintained it the entire

545
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: time that he's owned the football team, that he's not

546
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: changing the name. Um. And i'd like to think that, well,

547
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: it's not that i'd like to think, it's what I

548
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: think in terms of, like, you know, we we're gonna

549
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: sell our shares in the team. That might be something

550
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: to you know, give Dan Snyder a little more freedom,

551
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: because I would hesitate to believe that these men who

552
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: have made a lot of money, uh, would short the

553
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: value of the thing that they're trying to sell before

554
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: they sell it right, right, And it's of the team.

555
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: So it's not like it's not like, um, you know,

556
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: Venus and Serena Williams and Gloria estef On selling their

557
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: shares of the Dolphin. This is like this is like

558
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: is like you know, NFL ownership is to have to

559
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: approve all that like that, that is a big chunk.

560
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: Well and behind the scenes, I mean, the the FedEx

561
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: CEO Fred Smith is um Dan Dan Snyder reported looks

562
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: looks up to him and thinks very highly of him.

563
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: So I think that this created a tectonic shift. Um.

564
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: And you know, but it's not not so long ago that. Uh,

565
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: corporate interests were one of the reasons and money attached

566
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: to that and lost money were the reasons that Colin

567
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: Kaepernick was not getting jobs with all sorts of teams.

568
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: I mean, so now look how much is how much

569
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: has changed now he's signing production deals with Disney, which

570
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: is not part of our news rundown, but uh, but

571
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: it is fascinating. You're right, it is. It is a

572
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: changing world and and part of that is the pandemic.

573
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: And so let's get into like this week in COVID news,

574
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: which which is tough. It's been it's been a while

575
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: since we've talked, and I feel like there's been a

576
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: lot that's happened on this front. And and Mark and

577
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: I were talking about this and you could almost you

578
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: like put the lot you part of the last minutes

579
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: of the show, not with an asterix, but I just

580
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: feel like everything almost right now. And the Washington team

581
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: name is is a great? Um is a great? Uh

582
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: you know the reason that this proves this rule. But

583
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: like almost anything we talk about football wives feels beside

584
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: the point to talking about, like how is the coronavirus

585
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna impact this season? As we get closer to the season,

586
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: it just feels like that's the conversation and that's what

587
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: part and it might not be fun, and of course

588
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna be previewing the season and talking about other

589
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: stuff too, but it's like that's that's the conversation because

590
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: that's the world where that's the world we're living in

591
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: terms of this football league, and that it kind of

592
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of the lockout, where it's

593
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: like the only thing you could talk about until the

594
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: lockout was over, it was the lockout. It's like almost

595
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: everything we're gonna be able to talk about on this show,

596
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna have to be related um to how the

597
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: NFL is moving forward, and so there's a lot to

598
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: get to. But basically, the NFL and the NFL p

599
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: A are going back and forth and trying UH to

600
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: figure out the rules UH in which they are going

601
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: to do. So the NFL sent out UH some rules

602
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: and and we'll talk about those, but I'll start the

603
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: start it with UM just to talk about the preseason.

604
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: That the NFL p A reportedly doesn't want to play

605
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: a preseason, and the NFL, you know, was expected to

606
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: announce that it was gonna be reduced to two games.

607
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: They never did announce that. You know, a lot of

608
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: reporters said this is gonna be announced Thursday last week,

609
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: and it never happened. So the NFL p A is

610
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: UM pushing back against that. And I think Devin and

611
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: Jason mccordy you have a podcast, said it pretty well

612
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: like they're not even worried about four games two games

613
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: of preseason. They're worried about the on roting on ramp

614
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: process to the start of training camp, and like we'll

615
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: worry about preseason when we get there because we have

616
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: to worry about all these rules and how we're gonna

617
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: even start getting back safely because it's pretty soon. The

618
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: initial proposal from the NFL not to keep honking, but

619
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Speaker 1: UH is for the rookies, some rookies to show up

620
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: July nine, so that's thirteen days from when we're taping this.

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Speaker 1: That is that is pretty soon UM. And in the

622
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: rules of how they're going to figure that all out, UM,

623
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, are changeable. But the NFL did put some

624
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: things out there. Mark, I don't know what stood out

625
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: to you from from what's been out there. Well, I

626
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: think it's the that to me, the players need to

627
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: be taken very seriously. And if you look at the

628
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: letter that UM the NFL p A President J C.

629
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: Tread Or the Brown Center wrote, I think it's UM

630
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: and this. I've never really seen the NFL and all

631
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: the sports linked together UM this way ever in our lifetime,

632
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: where you're monitoring how athletes and other leagues are taking

633
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: charge and taking stands in a stance on UM the

634
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: seasons to come, and the NFL the players seem to

635
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: favor the idea of a forty eight day run up

636
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: minus games that would get them better prepared for Week one.

637
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: But you know, as Mike Garrifoe tweeted last week about

638
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: UM comments from some of the players, it's sort of

639
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: more like, if there's so much concern nationally about this

640
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: virus and it's rising the way it is. Why are

641
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: and this is the question they're asking, why are we

642
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Speaker 1: returning to work to begin with? And where I think

643
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: about a month ago, we felt in a place where, um,

644
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: we were thinking, hey, you know what, the ramp up

645
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: is happening, and you can you can kind of see

646
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: society shifting and opening up again. And there were issues

647
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: with that, but you could you could you could see

648
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: a way for sports to happen if things continued on

649
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: that path. Well, the path has been utterly imploded. The

650
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: path doesn't exist right now. Where the loan country UM

651
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: in the world that decided in various pockets to treat

652
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: this um politically and completely different. And I just you know,

653
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: the some of the whispers now and some of the

654
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: issues coming out of some sources, and some of this

655
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: is on the athletics reported elsewhere, is that people inside

656
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: teams are saying, we have not been given detailed, detailed

657
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: enough ideas on how we get from today to a

658
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: couple of weeks from now when we have peep there

659
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: all the time that in other sports, testing is not

660
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: happening as quickly as it should. Teams are having in

661
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: baseball to take it out on their own to get

662
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: stuff done. I just think that you're talking about an

663
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: immense labyrinth um um. And and by the other thing

664
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Speaker 1: they would talk about that this is not a bubble

665
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: situation like the NFL. They've used the word ecosystem, but

666
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: the ecosystem has not worked um anywhere else in this

667
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: country outside of the ecosystem being in your own home

668
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: for the most part. Yeah, there's so many questions to

669
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: to answer. And Alan Sill's as always as maintained throughout

670
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: this that you know, we're going to change this process

671
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: as new information becomes available. There's this constant flow of

672
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: new information about a virus that don't know, um, something

673
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: that didn't exist this this time a year ago, and

674
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: if it did, nobody knew about it. And you know,

675
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: you have to wonder, well, if players are gonna report,

676
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: if rookies are gonna report, how are they going to

677
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: get there, how are they going to apple to the team?

678
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: Are we going to test them before or after they

679
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: get there? And are they going to be quarantined after

680
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: they get there? And at what point does everybody get

681
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: on the field. It's like a situation in a locker

682
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: room where you're only going to be as safe as

683
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: the least safe person in your entire franchise, and how

684
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: do you how do you run up to that? And

685
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: I think, like when Greg was starting the segment in

686
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: terms of you know, COVID nineteen tying into everything, it

687
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: just does you know, I'm not sure that we would

688
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: be that we would have talked about Washington changing their

689
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: name if not for COVID nineteen, if not for the

690
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: circumstances that led to millions of people getting into the street,

691
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: because they realize the inequities that they've experienced a lot

692
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: of other people in this country have been experiencing for

693
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Speaker 1: a long time, a long time before the disease, and

694
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: so it's just it. It's it's made for this situation

695
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: of heightened awareness about everything, where a league that is

696
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: so firm and its decisions that you know, it's basically

697
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: the word of God three time that they have some

698
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: edict is now in a situation where there's pushback and

699
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: they're reacting to it like, oh yeah, that that pushback

700
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: is probably right right. They're negotiating their negotiating with the NFLPA.

701
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: To their credit, I you know, they don't in theory,

702
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: they don't have to according to the terms of the

703
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Speaker 1: c b A. They could, they could make their own

704
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: terms and and just say it. But I actually almost

705
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: pushed back a little bit against all the criticism of

706
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: all the leagues in the States that are coming back. Okay,

707
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: so MLS has been trying to come back. They've already

708
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: had some games canceled, they've had outbreaks, they've had troubles

709
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,959
Speaker 1: in different pockets. The NBA is trying to come back.

710
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: Some of the players don't want to come back. So

711
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: that that's one thing that'll happen in the NFL too.

712
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: You you would you would think, um. But more importantly,

713
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: like flights are getting delayed and some people are getting

714
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: tested positive like you mentioned Patrick before you get on

715
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: the flight, and they're trying to figure that out with

716
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: the bubble. Baseball is having similar shoes and these these

717
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: are the leagues that are just starting to even start

718
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: the process to coming back. And I see a lot

719
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: of fan reaction that's like, how can they not handle

720
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, the MLS, you know, and people are just

721
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: like really upset and I and I just think like

722
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: they're not built for this, and like, and we've said it,

723
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: we if the country's a mess, if the citizens and

724
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: the government of this country can't handle it. Why why

725
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: do you expect the league that is basically built to

726
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: put on the field an incredible product that I love

727
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: professional football and print money. Those are the two things

728
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: that the NFL does incredibly well. There's no reason for

729
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: me to think that the NFL or all these other

730
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: leagues are gonna be able to handle much less college football.

731
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Speaker 1: That's another conversation. Are going to be able to handle

732
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: the myriad of issues that come up? J C. Treader,

733
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: who you mentioned Mark Um you know, said kind of

734
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: like when you solve one little thing, it's like three

735
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: other things pop up that that you think of. Right.

736
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: I think if you look at college football where it's

737
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 1: it's not as UM, you know, you've got completely separate

738
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: conferences act, acting and operating their own way that what happens,

739
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: and people will know by the time they listen to this.

740
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: To some degree, the IVY League is talking about maybe

741
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: being the conference that says we're out of this. We're

742
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: not doing this. We we either you delay it or

743
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: we play in the spring, but we're not jumping into

744
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: this two weeks from now. And they were the first

745
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: UM group back way back when to say we're shutting

746
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: down sports when a bunch of other conferences refused to

747
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: do that, and they were prophetic and correct in that choice.

748
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: And so if that happens, I wonder if because you

749
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: have to look at how college football operates a little bit,

750
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: and if that became a way for other, maybe more

751
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: conferences that didn't want to mention, hey, we'll do it first,

752
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: UM to follow suit that if college football decided to

753
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: make this choice, because the problem is the spread of

754
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: the virus would be the same for both and even

755
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: worse for college because you're on college campuses and stuff.

756
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: But the NFL has a long list of players that

757
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: fall under the category of being susceptible to symptoms from coronavirus,

758
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: body mass index issues, UM, players with blood clout issues,

759
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: players with all sorts of stuff where I just wonder

760
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: if you're an NFL player, there's a lot of pressure,

761
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: probably universally to jump back in and we want to play.

762
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: Everyone wants the games, but also your safety, your family safety.

763
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: We could be in a situation where everyone's kids are

764
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: home again next fall, and who is assessing the mental

765
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: health of what all people have been through over the

766
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: past four or five months. Just because you're a twenty

767
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: three year old athlete, you need to run into the

768
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: fray and play this season. We're seeing empowered athletes for

769
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: other sports saying no, not so fast, or you can,

770
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna and I'm not going to be

771
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: penalized for it. And will there be NFL players of

772
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: note who make the same choice because their risk is

773
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: higher than going out there and playing eighteen holes of golf.

774
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: And we've already seen. I saw, um, you know, Adam

775
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: Shine had an article on NFL dot com of the

776
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: players under the most pressure, and I saw von Miller

777
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: are on there, and and I'm like, von Miller is

778
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: a and asthmatic, B is going to play a majority

779
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: of his games at altitude, and C is recovering from

780
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: a respiratory disease. It's killed a hundred twenty thousand plus

781
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: thousand people. So when we're talking about pressure, like the

782
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: pressure should be first of all, as Greg was saying

783
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: on a federal government that hassed with doing these things,

784
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: because preparing for a pandemic, you can't do that. Business

785
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: isn't built to prepare for something that they don't know

786
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: what's happened. Bull businesses are built to make money. And

787
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: so as Greg was saying, like the NFL, major League Baseball,

788
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: all of these organizations, how how are they supposed to

789
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: handle something that specifically should be tasked by a competent

790
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: federal government. Unfortunately, you know, we had a movement in

791
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: this country for about thirty years to dismantle and undermine

792
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: every action that a federal government might take because supposedly

793
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: it's bad. But here we are with you know, we're

794
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: gonna come up on half a million people dying and

795
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: people might finally start to realize that that's probably not

796
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: the way to go. And it's it's it's frustrating, uh

797
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: to see you know, players, players, families and just general

798
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: Americans being put in the situation, um when we could

799
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: have taken an example from almost every other country before. Right.

800
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: I know, I'm thinking of our our listeners overseas who

801
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: are listening to us and and they just know and

802
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: they want to get their football too, but they have

803
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: to be just thinking, you guys are a mess. You know,

804
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of it right now. We're we're

805
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: all in California, everyone on this show right now, and

806
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: like we're we're in the middle of it. You know,

807
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the cases are as high as they've

808
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: ever been and and just information is coming out, knowledge

809
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: about the virus is coming out about how it's more

810
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: of a blood vessel disease. You mentioned blood clots and

811
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: markets just it's like there's just so much that you

812
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: you don't know, but the things like we're trying to

813
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: figure out that that we do know. It's like everything

814
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: needs to have a have an asterick of like if

815
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: this happened. So I am going to go through some

816
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: of some of the proposals and like what's out there,

817
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: Like players players want to show up with E D

818
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: players instead of ninety That sounds like that could happen.

819
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: So it's like ten ten less players UM players want

820
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: and and this is a really interesting no more than

821
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: twenty players in a given facility at one time during

822
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: the initial period training conditioning, covering the first three weeks

823
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,479
Speaker 1: of camp. So I I had talked to some people

824
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: that worked for teams and they had said they thought

825
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks, we're gonna be like O

826
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Speaker 1: T S. And that's why they never expected the preseason

827
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: to really happen. That in the best case scenario, they're

828
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: gonna do ot S mini camps the first couple of weeks.

829
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: So the players are saying they just they only want

830
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: virtual meetings. Um, they want to sort of a maybe

831
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: it's like multiple squads of the team that show up

832
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: a maximum of forty players at a time, even later

833
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: in training camp. Again, these rules are all gonna be

834
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: negotiate and change, but it does just get you thinking

835
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: a little bit um about how even in the best

836
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: case scenario for this going really well. Um, look, the

837
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: Premier League just tested almost two thousand players no one,

838
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: no one tested positive. I mean, no one would expect

839
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: anything close to that happening here right now because of

840
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: what's going on in our country. But like people are,

841
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: they are playing professional sports elsewhere. But it is worth

842
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: thinking with these rule changes. Mark Murphy mentioned he thinks

843
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: practice squads are gonna get expanded a lot and maybe

844
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: include veteran players so it doesn't just have to be

845
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: young young players. These are some of the rules they're

846
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: talking about, and even in the best case scenario, it's

847
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: it's worth thinking about. Okay, August is gonna be very different, uh,

848
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: of how the teams are ramping up. Even even in

849
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: like the NFL's dream scenario that everything stays on track,

850
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: Uh to week one, it's gonna be very different. Well,

851
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: then they and you know, the other guidelines talk about

852
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: symptomatic players would be sidelined for minimum of ten days.

853
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: Asymptomatic would be um as as little as five days

854
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: if you pass two positive tests, and Philip Rivers on

855
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: a call asked the question, you know what if someone

856
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: gets it and has zero symptoms and feels fine, uh,

857
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: days before the super Bowl, they would be out And like,

858
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's the super Bowl, and who knows if

859
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: we'll even experience the super Bowl this year. But let's

860
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: say you get into these early season games because they

861
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: seem determined to have this week one. I mean that

862
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: that to see you've literally never heard anything else. Um,

863
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: we'll see if that happens too. But like the concept

864
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: of being someone who plays fantasy football the least of

865
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: my concerns at this point. But like you could have

866
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: people like major brand name stars um in and out

867
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: of the lineup left and right, and you could lose

868
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: half your offensive line and you could face a fully

869
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: healthy defensive line. It just seems that, um, I don't

870
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: hear a lot about that what is what happens in

871
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: mid October when rosters are reduced and in shambles there,

872
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: they're just doesn't seemed to be much of um that

873
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: we're hearing, and we're kept in the dark as to

874
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: what the continuity plan is when this stuff actually gets

875
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: the hope that they hope all along and it's just

876
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: been a hope, not a plan, is that this country

877
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: gets the virus under control. You know, as as the

878
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: governor of South Carolina, that right, the governor of South Carolina,

879
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: of all places, said it. He said, you know, if

880
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: you want to see football Clemson in South Carolina, you know,

881
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: put on your masks because right now there's no chance

882
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: they're playing football. He used those words, and I think

883
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: that it's a it's a larger thing that if you

884
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: if you go back even reading the Pro Football Talk

885
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: articles from March, like the thought was daily testing was

886
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: going to be simple by the time we get the

887
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: training camp and that the virus would be under control.

888
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: But it's not so. Obviously the league is going to

889
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: have to adjust and there's there's still a chance that

890
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: we can have a better UH test with a more

891
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: quick turnaround. You know that Tom Pellisera was hoping that

892
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: there was saying that they the league's thought was that

893
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: they could turn a test around in less than a day,

894
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: and so once once we lose that window where there's

895
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: three to four days, um, you know, there's a hope,

896
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: right that we could get better at this, you know,

897
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: and they want daily testing. The league said every other day,

898
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: but that the union would like daily testing. And I

899
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: mean honestly, because the spread of this virus happens before

900
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: symptoms start. That's one thing that has been consistent. I

901
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: think the CDC said of the virus spread comes from

902
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: people who have the virus, but they're not showing symptoms yet,

903
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: but they're still shedding virus. And so it's of course

904
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: like people and players should protect themselves, but it's it's

905
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: I hate to keep coming back to it, as much

906
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: as I would like to just shame everybody that's not

907
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: wearing a mask. This this is something that requires who

908
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: requires confident it would be the guy to do it,

909
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: don't you think, like, you know, like if if if

910
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: the federal government was like we've been reading some of

911
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: your tweets, Claybon, You've been pretty off on us, but

912
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: you we actually think you're the guy to shame everyone

913
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: into wearing masks. I feel like you would be a stronger.

914
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: Ricky would be pretty good too, Greg. You know, if

915
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: this rendition of the federal government asked me to do anything,

916
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: I would promptly, uh, you know, send something back that

917
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: would likely cost me. All right, how about maybe the

918
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: next for California. You know, just do it for California.

919
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: We're our own. Little Ricky would be good at that.

920
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: She would, she would get after people. I think she

921
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: would too. But I have to say that things went

922
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: south after on our NFL Network show right around Memorial

923
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: Day that um Ricky suggested that everyone get on the

924
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: outside and go outside and enjoy yourselves. And you know,

925
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: that's a little bit what I said. I said, wear

926
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: a mask, but get some fresh air because everyone's mental

927
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: health is deteriorating at a rapid pace. There's the way

928
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: to live. There's a way to listen. We've been doing

929
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: it for a couple of months. We've been going out

930
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: and been wearing a mask since this all started, and

931
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: been doing doing things. There's a way to be safe,

932
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: like many countries around the world have been doing it.

933
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: But it back to that ecosystem part of it because

934
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: it's not in a it's not above in Disney World.

935
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: Um and I could even see players sneaking out of

936
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: that bubble. Give me a break. But uh, you're you're

937
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: asking like vast amounts of people within every organization, many

938
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: of them, you know. I'm not just saying every player

939
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: is young and thinks they're invincible, nonsense. Plenty want to

940
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: stay safe. But you're going to have to culturally get

941
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: everyone on that team to say we will not take

942
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: a risk, and no one in our family will. They

943
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: want to test all their family members. It's just a

944
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: spider web. I mean, you're asking for um, complete and

945
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: clear uh, you know, following those rules, and that's that

946
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: is goes completely against the blueprint of what we're seeing,

947
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: um in all fifty states, in various places, right. I

948
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: mean there was talk of maybe even you know, finding

949
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: players who act irresponsibly, which people got on and I

950
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: took that to men. They're reserving the right to it,

951
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, just as almost as a threat. But it

952
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: all gets it all gets really murky. It's complicated. It's

953
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: going to be part of the discussion. Sorry to all

954
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: our listeners of you know, but we've ship you sticking out.

955
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: You know, it's like if we you know it's it

956
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: is what it is, but they're there. Um. The last

957
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: thing I want to mention on on this was just

958
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: the change, uh in the proposal of how the media

959
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: is going to cover it, because a lot of people

960
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: probably don't know this. They were away from their computer

961
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: and uh, I know it caught your eye. Mark that

962
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: that four. I think it's gonna be like four reporters

963
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: will have access uh to the team and their daily practices,

964
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: but they can't. It will be very limited. They can't

965
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: tweet out during practice. Um. It's almost gonna be like

966
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: a pool report situation like at the Super Bowl, where

967
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: one person gets to kind of provide um, you know,

968
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: somewhat generic report for the rest of um, the football

969
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: world to to know what happened there that day. Yeah,

970
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: I mean in the in the in the sort of

971
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: instant cynical um analysis and reply from a lot of

972
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: old school FEAT writers is that the NFL has wanted

973
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: to do this for a long time or get closer

974
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: to this and merely like for instance, I mean the

975
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: All European Soccer they are so much more restrictive on

976
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: the media than than the NFL or any American sport

977
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: is right, and we've been arching towards that for a

978
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: long time. Long gone in the days of you know,

979
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: a general manager hanging out with one reporter and having

980
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: like a four hour dinner. It's like those all those

981
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: media times are now so stripped down in um bare

982
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: bones that you just wonder when we get back to

983
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 1: normal if and when, um what the will the easing

984
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: go back to full media um sweaty piles of like

985
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: eighteen guys surrounding one player, or is that is that

986
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: a thing of the past, because I mean it's text coverage,

987
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: I mean exactly. The part of me is like, do

988
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: I need media day at the Super Bowl? Well? I don't,

989
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: but the league would like that to happen, so, um,

990
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's going to affect this season in

991
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: ways that it will be the freakiest campaign whatever part

992
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: of it exists. Ever, And if you're a media person,

993
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 1: you're a lot of them are going to be shut

994
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: out from doing their jobs. The way that they travel.

995
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's very it's hard to think about. We

996
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: we do something NFL Network called inside Training Camp, which

997
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're trying to plan Um. But that involves

998
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, reporters flying all around the country to different

999
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: in these shirts left and right marks. Yeah, wearing the

1000
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: shirt that's that that can't happen, uh the same way

1001
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 1: I can. I can anticipate though, if NFL network keeps

1002
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: getting like one of those four spots, like are they

1003
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: exempt from that rule? It's all you know, or as

1004
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: TV examp. I don't even like the details are a

1005
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: little uh murky right now, but I can already imagine

1006
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: the pushback of like how come Gara Folo gets every

1007
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: day and the Eagles camp, you know, from the Philadelphia

1008
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: and Choirer reporters and everything. Yeah, I just the the

1009
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: provisions of the media policy that don't have anything to

1010
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: do with the virus. Um. You know, those those kind

1011
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: of jump out to me in terms of what what

1012
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: what what was that? What what are we looking for?

1013
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: Like tweeting during practice? Um? And like the specifics of

1014
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: like does does specific plays include whether or not a

1015
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: quarterback is getting second team reps? Because that's like basically

1016
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: the only story that we have, right You're not supposed

1017
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: to I thought they said you're not supposed to mention

1018
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: their teams players. Some teams already were pretty restrictive, you know,

1019
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: so different teams have different rules, Like I can think

1020
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: of some teams have have adopted those rules already, and

1021
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: then some teams like the Cowboys, are like, please give

1022
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: away as much as you can. We want you to

1023
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: talk to us please, like we love it. We're gonna

1024
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: trot out. We're gonna trot out, Sean Lee, you know,

1025
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: to come talk to you guys. Right after Briant called

1026
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 1: them like a name on Twitter, like come back over here.

1027
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: You know, we we love it. I just love the

1028
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: idea that, like, you know, Bill Belichick is sitting there

1029
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: taking notes watching NFL Network like, oh, I'm more, it's

1030
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: Blowbinger took six reps, you know with the third team.

1031
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: It's just like, no, I can't believe Mobo got brought

1032
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: up on a show that Dan. We do have before

1033
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: we go, we have a couple of very quick just

1034
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: Football league items, um and one involves your team, Mark.

1035
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: So I was curious what your thought was when you

1036
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: heard David and Joku the Browns tight end, asked for

1037
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: a trade. Well, I'm not I'm not that surprised. I

1038
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: kind of think what what I looked at that tight

1039
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: end group. They went out and signed Austin Hooper and

1040
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: then they used a fourth round pick on Harrison Bryant.

1041
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: And you know, we aren't college heads, and so around

1042
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: draft time people will tweet us and say, you're gonna

1043
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: love this player. I did not. I I got like

1044
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: twenty five people reaching out saying Harrison Bryant is going

1045
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: to be the dude like a year or two from now.

1046
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: So if you're David and Joko, you're thinking, how do

1047
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: I fit into this? It's gotten. I was the lead

1048
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: guy here last year, was injury written um thumb injury

1049
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: out for twelve weeks. But I would say this that

1050
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: they they seem committed to them, and I don't think

1051
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: that they're bouncing off of this just to move them

1052
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: for what are you gonna get for him right now?

1053
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: Not not enough value right nothing. So and I would

1054
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: say this Kevin Stefanski in Minnesota last year, no team

1055
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: in a league of the time they ran two tight

1056
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: end sets. No other team in the league came close.

1057
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: So there is a chance here for David A. Joku,

1058
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: who is going to start over Harrison Bryant this year,

1059
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: to say you want to trade me, trade me? After

1060
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: a great season um or like if you're Cleveland, like,

1061
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: there's a space for you. I don't think that he's

1062
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: necessarily the odd man out as some would think. And

1063
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people close to the team think that

1064
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: the Joku like they believe in the potential because he

1065
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: looks like he looks the part and he's had he's

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Speaker 1: not reached it yet, So do you go and like

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00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: it's sort of like Jamal Adams, do you go and

1068
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: trade him for something less than you'd want to just

1069
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: because he's got a new agent and he's making demands.

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00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good look for UM, a

1071
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: struggling organization trying to become something better. I think like

1072
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 1: in terms of in Joku, he just wants to see

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00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: the potential come to fruition with how the Browns could

1074
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: utilize him. And he's looking at a situation where he's

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00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: going into a contract and he would like to show,

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00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, he would like to be somewhere where a

1077
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 1: team is going to utilize him. And I just don't

1078
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: think that they've done enough to show him that, hey,

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00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna feature you, You're gonna be a big part

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00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: of our offense. And last year he was hurt for

1081
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: he was out for like three quarters of the season.

1082
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: And I think the plan changes every year. I mean

1083
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: they're coach their offensive Steff changes literally every single season.

1084
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: I think that was a great it's a great point.

1085
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: And Stefancy's offense, I mean that should be their base offense.

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00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: That's their four best receivers. They don't really have a

1087
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: third wide receiver, so that they're they're pretty thin actually

1088
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: at wide how everyone thinks that's a huge strength for them,

1089
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: but they're an injury away, you know, from Landry or

1090
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: or O'Dell to being like really thin there. So yeah,

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00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: have Hooper and the joke go on the field most

1092
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: of the time. Why not. That's gonna create a lot

1093
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: of problems. Another player that we're not sure is going

1094
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: to be on the field is Chris Jones. I did

1095
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: want to just mention um that, you know, he tweeted

1096
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: out some doubt that he would play at all this year,

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00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 1: and maybe people were reading into the tweets a little

1098
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: too much, but the threat is out there. He's one

1099
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: of the players um that is uh you know, franchise

1100
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: tag and has until July fifteen to sign a new contract.

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00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: There are no contracts expected maybe really for any of

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00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: those guys, and Jones seems to be very far away,

1103
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't think that the Patrick Mahomes contract would

1104
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: would make the Chiefs any closer to signing Jones. So

1105
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: that's it's just a situation to watch for h for

1106
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: a really really good player, I mean, one of the

1107
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: best five interior rush guys in the entire NFL. I

1108
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: would say that's it. I just want to mention Christians.

1109
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with Cam Newton. Um. Kim Newton had

1110
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: a quote um this last weekend where he expressed that

1111
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: no longer time to be humble. I'm tired of being

1112
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: humble because if you're humble, they're just gonna If you're

1113
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: humble and you're staying quiet, they're just gonna dog you

1114
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: like they have been. Anyways, Um, Ricky as someone who

1115
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: probably doesn't get called humble too often, and the Patriots

1116
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: and what what was your your reaction here? Um, let

1117
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: me just process that you have to throw a dig

1118
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: at me before I get to say, like than you

1119
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: think great Instagram game, you know, big personality, flashy, like

1120
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think this is this is you guys

1121
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: are sympathica, Yeah, I've been called humble a lot. F

1122
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: y I um, but you know, I think that he

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00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: has sort of like as much as I I do

1124
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: dislike him a little bit from some some past previous stuff,

1125
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: I do think that like he was completely you know,

1126
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: ripped around this this offseason, and and I think he

1127
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: deserves to be able to say, hey, look, I'm freaking

1128
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. Like it's I'm not gonna just sit back

1129
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: and just be grateful that all of a sudden a

1130
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: team wants me. Like he's going to turn that into

1131
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: into something good. And I and I hope he goes

1132
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: out there and kicks ask for the Patriots. Yeah, I

1133
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: do Greg good. It's an edge to that. I like that.

1134
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I love the idea of I mean, Cam

1135
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Newton is never gonna be uh, you know, a boring

1136
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: starting quarterback like that was never gonna happen. So I

1137
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: don't know, I love I love the like Cam Newton

1138
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: logo of the Patriots. I don't know if you've seen that,

1139
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: where he's the flying Elvis with the with the hit.

1140
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: It's the whole thing. I'm looking forward to this experience.

1141
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I quite expressed that as much.

1142
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: On the episode that we had of him. I mean,

1143
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: no matter what all of it, I'm just with it

1144
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: that this Cam Newton Patriots thing is gonna be even

1145
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: if it doesn't go well, it's gonna be fascinating. Go ahead,

1146
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say to Erica

1147
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: and Greg and everybody else who likes the Patriots, I

1148
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: hope you can come to terms with accepting a quarterback

1149
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: who routinely puts himself as him against the world, who

1150
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: has his own logo, who has his own brand, who

1151
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: makes cryptic Instagram posts and it's kind of weird. I

1152
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: hope you can adjust to having a quarterback that meets

1153
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: all of those things. Yeah, it'll be It'll be an

1154
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: adjustment for sure. And you know, there are a lot

1155
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: of people wondering, what does this mean we'll never hear

1156
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: from Cam Newton again, that he'll become, you know, another

1157
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: sort of synthetic robot that you seem to just plug

1158
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: into a wall for six days and he goes out

1159
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: and destroys people on Sunday. No, I think they're gonna

1160
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: let him. This is even though everyone's gonna say it's

1161
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: Belichick and nothing will change there. Um, there might be

1162
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of a culture shift to some degree.

1163
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: If when you have Cam Newton at quarterback, I mean,

1164
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: is he gonna be allowed to whether I like it

1165
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: or not, it's gonna be allowed to dress as you know,

1166
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: the on the run during postgame press conferences. I hope

1167
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: he is, like why let him be him? So of course,

1168
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: of course, all right, Patrick's batteries at three percent. I

1169
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: don't know if that. I don't know if that's like

1170
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: rhetorical or like literal, because you've been when did you

1171
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: start taping NFL now this morning? I know they start

1172
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: pre taping a very good time for follow up questions

1173
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: if it says it now veers towards two percent. But okay, um,

1174
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: it's it's been about a couple of hours because I

1175
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: had this thing out. This is my wife's laptop, and

1176
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't really know a lot about it. Apparently I

1177
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: don't know how to plug it in. So I just

1178
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: the time the day last week I did it like Andrew,

1179
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: and we we started taping that thing at seven twenty

1180
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: in the morning. So you've been doing this now it's

1181
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: now too in the afternoon. We should let you go.

1182
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: We should go. This show is long we had a

1183
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: whole segment planned, um, but you know we're scrapping it

1184
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: because we're gonna save it. And the news was just

1185
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: beautiful today. It was not beautiful actually, but uh it was.

1186
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: It was. I'm just laughing real quick. Mark, you said

1187
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: sweaty um you know, reporters or whatever. When I was

1188
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: home back visiting um my brothers, my two younger brothers,

1189
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: they call people like, instead of saying loser or like

1190
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: making fun of someone, they call people sweaty nerds. So

1191
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: I think that I think that you could use it

1192
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: in your vocabulary first. And I've got some breaking news too.

1193
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: We are gonna for the first time ever spin the

1194
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: wheel of teams on our Instagram hand though. Well you're

1195
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to go there and find that out. That

1196
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: was just news to me. Okay, We're just breaking news

1197
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: all over the place. You can check it out there

1198
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: and we will will find out what team uh that

1199
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: is talk about them on Wednesday, who knows. Um, that's it.

1200
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: Thank you Patrick for for jumping on on a day

1201
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: you were you were busy. Thank you guys, and uh

1202
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: for Patrick Clayban for Dan Hanss you know in the

1203
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: Gatesville Messenger out there in Texas for West and Kisha.

1204
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: Why not uh Mark Sessler, Ricky Hollywood, I'm Greg. We

1205
01:01:36,720 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: will see a Wednesday sweaty nerd. Just sweaty nerds. S