1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Can be Around the NFL Podcast, smokes macanudos and tassus 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: a disc around. Welcome to another edition of the Around 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hands and I 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: am joined in a stadium filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Gregg girls adult what is up? Boys? 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: As we get farther away from our home country, the 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: intros by Matt money Smith become more mcguileing. I have 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Greg and I looked at each other. We have no 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: idea what that meant, no idea at all. None of 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: you also around something England related would have been nice. 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: We are in the middle of London right now, famous 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: new stadiums in the world. It's in office. Remember someone 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: deemed me and all of us. We're talking about macannodos 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: and throwing up, throwing a disc around and like we 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: got thousands of men shows. Well there wasn't within the 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: last forty eight hours. We don't remember it. But this 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: place is not filled with heroes. It's empty. It's a 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: little unnerving but also beautiful to be in a huge 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: stadium with no people in it. This is Tottenham Hotspur 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Stadium and I have to get that right because, first 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: of all I thought Sunday's game, so it was very busy. 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: It was a whirlwind getting here. I thought the game 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: was played in Wembley Stadium on Sunday. Took a little 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: heat for that, I I saw. I did none of 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: you notice me say that on the show once and 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: correct me, you know gently Dan, By the way, game 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: was at a different sometimes just like you. It's that 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: was an effective shifting to blame right there. Um Uh. 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: And then I called this place Tottenham Stadium. That is 30 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: not good either. It's Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. Neil Reynolds got 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: on my case about that, and uh, yes it's it's 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: a beautiful new facility, just open in April, and it's 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: a it has a field specially designed uh for the NFL. 34 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: And uh, one day perhaps will be the home field 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: of a team that calls London their home on a 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: full time basis. One can dream. By the way, I 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: want to try this again. I did it off my 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: four It is empty. Uh. Nick Pike, who works at 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: the UK office for the NFL, can I scream just 40 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: to hear the echo? Okay, here we go. I don't 41 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: know if that's sounded. Probably will alert Uh, I mean 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: this isn't just anyone stadium either. This is the Champions 43 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: League finalist, Tottenham Hotspurs, second places, first loser. You gotta 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: put it out. We we got a cab from our 45 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: hotel and I'll get into the to the hotel in 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: a second. Um and the guy driving us had a 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: west Ham um air freshener hanging from his roo view mirror. 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: And apparently that's the big rivalry west Ham and Tottenham Hotspurs. 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: And he asked us if we were if we if 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: we went for Tottenham, and I feel like if we 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: answered him wrong, that was it. It just would be 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: blood everywhere. Well, he had claimed that he in the 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: past been to a number of matches where a lot 54 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: of blood and guts were spilled. And you made the 55 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: faux pa here in the UK of saying soccer to 56 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: him where we are on their turf, Now it's football. 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: What I'm doing is American football. I'm introducing my culture 58 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: to him. It's a very American sentiment to back, Hey, 59 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: what about the soccer matches here? Oh well, there will 60 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: be more faux pause, I'm certain anyway. Yes, this is 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: the first purpose built NFL stadium outside the US. World 62 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: class facility just open and we are sitting in it 63 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: as they are preparing for the second London game between 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: the Panthers and the Bucks on Sunday. We will be 65 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: here their preppy. It's a mad scramble that they are 66 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: painting the end zones later this week. And we were 67 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: walking on the field and we got to check out 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: the locker rooms. Such a cool place, so really a 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: thrill to be here. Locker room was nice, state of 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: the art, like a club. I do feel like if 71 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: you look up behind us, there's definitely like an assassin's 72 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: perch up there somewhere, ready to take one of us out. Um. 73 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: They were given a tour earlier to eight. Someone recognized 74 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood. Yeah, it was very cool, very cool, met 75 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: leather jacket on. It was like perfect timing a large mail. 76 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: You described him as very tall, very tall. Yes. Um, 77 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: So today's show it's gonna be fun. We got a 78 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: whole week lined up of great activities. Today's show will 79 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: be focused on several things, kind of almost like a 80 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: typical Tuesday show in a non typical location. We have 81 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Monday night football recap to get to market. It sounds 82 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: like you picked up good time to fly across the 83 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: world in MS Brown's game. Yeah, to say the least. 84 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: And now I know why there's a bounce in your step, 85 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: as we would say, is my team took a trouncing 86 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: while I was asleep on an airplane. Um, you're a 87 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: sick man. I'm excited to be in London. I don't 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: care about your crappy team that much. We also will 89 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: do a segment great moment on the plane, A couple 90 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: of great moments on the plane. Greg and I are 91 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: in the same row on Virgin Atlantic, which great job 92 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: by you, Virgin Atlantic. Um. Greg turns the iPad to 93 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: me to show me, UM an ESPN page that showed 94 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: that my New York Yankees had swept their way to 95 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: the ALCS. I was very excited to see that, and 96 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: that the Browns had been trounced, which apparently I was 97 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: very excited to see as well. And it was like 98 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: it was like it was in the middle of the 99 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: night and Dan just starts hooting and hollering and UM. 100 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: So then that gave us the idea for a segment. Uh. 101 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: If you were handed an iPad on a plane flying 102 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: over the Atlantic Ocean, UH, and you had been out 103 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: of the loop for instead of one night the first 104 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: five weeks of the football season. What would what would 105 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: stun you about what you were reading? So we'll do 106 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: that Thursday night preview Giants at Patriots at Page. Are 107 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: you kidding me? Now? The Patriots get both New York teams. 108 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: Something spishy but uh. And we'll do some news, including 109 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: the first firing of the twenty nineteen season and it 110 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: probably won't be the last. Uh. But before we do that, 111 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: let's talk Monday night football. And he's got this running 112 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: game working at you see what Metta and look at 113 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: the speed on Brita. What a way to start it? 114 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: Free yard touchdown. Yes, Matt Brita got it going for 115 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: the Niners and they never let up. An absolute trouncing 116 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: at the Big Bell Bottom as the San Francisco forty 117 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: Niners took it to marks Cleveland Browns a thirty one 118 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: to three final, a game that could have been even 119 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: worse than it was if not for some missed field 120 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: goal attempts by the Niners um a game where Baker 121 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: Mayfield struggled mightily and the San Francisco running game piled 122 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: up two D seventy five yards on the ground. And 123 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: absolute whipping Um West, I know we were are flying. 124 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: You got a chance to check out this game on 125 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: game Pass in your hotel before we came over, And 126 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: was it as bad as the box score and all 127 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: the write ups seemed to indicate. Well, I was half 128 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: delirious from lack of sleep, so take this with a 129 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: grain of salt. But it reminded me quite a bit 130 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: of the forty Niners Bengals game from earlier in the year, 131 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: where it was just a wall to wall thumping, and 132 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: it looked to me like the forty Niners were playing downhill. 133 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: They were just the faster team, playing at a different 134 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: speed and intensity, and on both sides of the ball, 135 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: on special teams, every area of the game. The forty 136 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: Niners look like a superpower. They the forty Niners are 137 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: the toughest running offense in the league to defend. And 138 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: we'll get to the Browns, but to me, the forty 139 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: Niners are weirdly the bigger story here because we've been 140 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: waiting to find out who is right that I just 141 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: mean maybe on this show, we've obviously been focused on 142 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: the Browns, not just because of Mark, but also nationwide, 143 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: people have been focused on the Browns all offseason. We 144 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: weren't talking about the forty Ironers as kind of the 145 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: cool rising team that's gonna take over the NFL, but 146 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: they are. They're so hard to defend. I love on 147 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: ESPN how they show who's on the field on offense 148 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: in terms of the skill position players every play. And 149 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: you could appreciate a Kyle Shanahan offense when they do 150 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: that because you realize how often it's two tight ends 151 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: in a fullback and one receiver, or it's one tight 152 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: end a fullback kind of a blocking wide receiver. There 153 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: was a lot of levine to Loylo in the In 154 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: the game, there's of course a great game um by 155 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: their entire defense, but on offense, it just feels like 156 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is always one step ahead of the opposing 157 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: defenses right now. And it's interesting because him and Sean 158 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: McVeigh in theory kind of come from the same school 159 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: and they do some similar things, but they do it 160 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: in such different ways. You would never see two tight 161 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: ends and a fullback in a Sean McVeigh. It's a 162 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,479 Speaker 1: huge This was the game where I think people were 163 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: waiting on San Francisco to find out Oh, this will 164 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: be the week you're legit it or you're not. And 165 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Browns are actually a test at 166 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: this point. I'm not. I'd come out very concerned about 167 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: them for a variety of reasons, but to to thump 168 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland the way they did, and I haven't had a 169 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: chance to watch it, and never will I watch it, 170 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: But it's uh, it's it's encouraging because you know, the 171 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: Niners weren't talked about this offseason, but they were talked 172 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: about all off season last year. They were the team. 173 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: You have always been a big Kyle Shanahan fan and 174 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: a big forty Niners fan. By extension, I have just 175 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: u it's a neat My wife is a Niners fan. 176 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it would create family unity. That wouldn't be 177 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: the worst thing. So you know what I was thinking 178 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: of during this game. I think it was Peter Schreeger 179 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: when we had him on from the swimming pool, and 180 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: it was him who said that the guy everyone in 181 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: the NFL is talking about is the next head coaching 182 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: candidate is forty Niners defensive coordinator Robert Sala and that 183 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: they are right up there with the Patriots as the 184 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: best and you know, throw the Bills in there. The 185 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: best defenses in the NFL this year, and you could 186 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: argue they have more talent on de guys. It's starting 187 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: to rain, a lot of electronic equipment sitting on our laps, 188 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: and Ricky has it in front of her. Very dangerous 189 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: moment right now. Speaking of dangerous, the Cleveland Browns are 190 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: supposed to be dangerous. They're supposed to be feeling dangerous, 191 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: and we we have what's now a major issue. Baker 192 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: Mayfield eight of two hundred yards four and a half 193 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: yards per attempt, two interceptions, um. He leads the NFL 194 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: with eight picks this year. Odell Beckham two catches for 195 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: fifteen yards three points total. This is one of the 196 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: biggest uh surprises of the early season, right that this 197 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: is happening right now with the I think it is, 198 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: and I this is tangential to that. But when I 199 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: read the story where before the game he refused to 200 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: shake hands with Richard Sherman and a couple other Niners players, 201 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: I know that a lot of Baker Mayfield stuff gets 202 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: blown up and I and I kind of brushed almost 203 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: all of it off. To me that that rubbed to 204 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: me the wrong way and to go out and then 205 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: lay a total egg. His career is still very young, 206 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: and we want these guys to be fully developed products 207 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: seven or eight games into their career. But it is 208 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: concerning because the trajectory coming out of last year. Not 209 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: unlike Jimmy g I thought after his little six game 210 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: sample size where everyone thought he'd beat Joe Montana Part 211 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: two and he struggled and got injured. It's it takes time. 212 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: Reminds me a lot of as a Jets fan Rex 213 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: Ryan when he started, he always ran his mouth. He always, 214 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, played to the media and clap back at 215 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: people that came after him. And when you're winning, it 216 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: works and it's fun. But when you're not playing well 217 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: and you're losing, it just it turns ugly quickly. And 218 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,239 Speaker 1: you know the fact you had two issues with Mayfield 219 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: outside the game. You had the handshake thing that Richard 220 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: Sherman then came after him in UH interview with Mike Silver. 221 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: After the game. You had Nick Bosa, who got a 222 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: measure of revenge Mayfield during his college days at Oklahoma 223 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: planting the flag at midfield against Bosa and Ohio State. 224 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: So after Bosa gets to mayfield. He does a simulated 225 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: plant flag and Bosa had an outrageous game. Uh two sacks, 226 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: lived in the backfield, forced to fumble. Um, oh my god, 227 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: it is starting down. We need to take a time out. 228 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: All right, I need help. All right there. It is 229 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: the first ever around the NFL podcast rain delay. It 230 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: happened the first podcast rain delay period. Did we make history. 231 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: It's about a twenty nine minute delay. It involved many 232 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: unathletic man men scampering and carrying equipment through the rain 233 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: inside and uh and Erica said, ain't all back up 234 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: for us? Inside there are unanswered questions if I might 235 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: have damaged a dollar lens. So if so, I will 236 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: just also be leaving the company. I also take issue with, 237 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: as usual, Greg's commentary, you know, making comments you know 238 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: about other people. Uh did the least Greg did far 239 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: the least amount of work. By far. Greg was grabbing 240 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: two chairs at the time he was picking up. I 241 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: went back out there three times. I don't know what 242 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: you're talking about. You're actually actually you're totally in the roadway. 243 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: You're staying keeping your hair dry. Give me a break. 244 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: Once once we got outside, Greg was like, oh, that's 245 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: enough of physical labor for the decade for me, I'm 246 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: shutting it down. Well, you know, we're working with the wires, 247 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: just trying to get when we're gonna try everything off, 248 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: Why did it need to go into this direction. I 249 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: was making a joke that we're all making a run 250 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: run for it and you're taking shots when I'm the 251 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: one out there getting things. Otherwise it was still sitting there. 252 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just didn't think it was a 253 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: complete effort by you. I thought it was happening. I mean, 254 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: Mark picked up a case and then one of my 255 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: extremely extremely expensive lens is just rolled out onto the 256 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: rainy field. If I just mentioned, yeah, you did it, 257 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: but you scurried right back up and picked it up, 258 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: and it was it was amazing, very quick. Well, I 259 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: also found your phone in the middle of a wet 260 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: grassy field. Had that not happened. Let's get back in 261 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: a chuck. We're now inside. We're right outside the Tottenham 262 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: Hotspurs dressing locker room area. Yeah we are, which I 263 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: would imagine there. You know, hundreds of thousands of people 264 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: in this area that would die to be in this room, 265 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: and here we are just viewing it as a place 266 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: to get under a roof. Well, we were aware of 267 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: how special it is to be here, and it's very exciting. 268 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: Let's get back think of all the history that's happened 269 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: here in the last ten months. Let's um, let's get 270 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: back to the game. And uh yes, so Nick Bosa. 271 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: Listen to this stat line for Nick Bosa on Monday 272 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: Night football get ready. Two sacks, two tackles for loss, 273 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: four tackles, five quarterback hurries, a forced FuMB and a 274 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: fumble recovery. He announced himself as an NFL star in 275 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: prime time this week. I think it was a big 276 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: deal to get the bye week for Nick Bosa. And 277 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: this was healthy Nick Bosa. He had come back very 278 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: quickly from a pretty serious ankle sprain, had been playing 279 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: through it even in games, had gotten hurt kind of 280 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: as the game went along. They get the bye week, 281 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,359 Speaker 1: he comes back out and he looks like a superstar. 282 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: He looked like the best player on a field that 283 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: included Odell Beckham and Baker Mayfield and plenty of other 284 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: great players. I think it's the fascinating story going forward 285 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: is the NFC West is loaded and bizarre, and there 286 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: are a ton of NFC West head to head competitions 287 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: coming up, Mark where's your peace scale? On the on 288 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: the Browns one pants totally dry, weren't wasn't trying well. 289 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: I'll put it this way because I think it's like 290 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: one you you made one trip, brought one thing in 291 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: your dan like or like three you made a three 292 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: chip back out into the rain to get everything that 293 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: makes sure everything was say something that actually gets Greg mad. 294 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: You know you've you've done well. It's it's three plus trips. 295 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: I know the feeling I had, And I think any 296 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: whenever you're a fan and you're stuck in a place 297 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: where you can't track a game of a team that 298 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: you care about very much, and like I intentionally didn't 299 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: want to go minute by minute with this thing on 300 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: the airplane if it was going south. It's two, so 301 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: I you know, I knew the game was over and 302 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: long after after the fact, and I did the thing 303 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: where I purchased the Internet, uh, you know, hour long 304 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: service just to get the score. And you're that moment 305 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: where I'm typing Browns forty Niners score, You're rolling the dice, 306 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: a hundred side of dice. It could have ended in 307 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: a billion ways had it had it ended forty five 308 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: to seven Browns, I would have just stood up on 309 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: the airplate and walk up and down the aisle and 310 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: start slapping people five. But it's thirty two three. It's 311 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: about as awful as a dice roll as you could 312 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: have said. You understand the scale by now, but you 313 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: didn't give me a one attach. I said initially it's 314 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: three plus chairs. I brought into three plus trips because 315 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: I got that wet, because there's that that much p 316 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: on me. I guess the peak is coming down literally 317 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: from the sky on me. It's not coming from me. 318 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: So it's bad, yeah, and not sort of what's been 319 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: the experience of a Browns fan for a long time 320 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: at this time. I mean Baker Mayfield, you know, acts 321 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: tough before the game. It felt like he had a 322 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: little bit of a pace scale in this game. Very 323 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: early on, has a wide open Odell Beckham for a 324 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: big play, just overshoots him the first third down of 325 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: the game, not really any pressure, he decides to try 326 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: to go make a play on his own, ends up 327 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: throwing up a pretty good throw, but Ricky Seals Jones 328 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: can't come up with it. Ah, he fumbles in the 329 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: game there is a lot of pressure on him, and 330 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: the offensive line didn't play well. But some of that 331 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: is the scheme. I think some of that's Mayfield. Some 332 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: of that's the running backs and tight ends who got 333 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: Mayfield and the running game blown up in this game 334 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: when they were trying to protect. So it's a little 335 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: bit of everything. But Baker is not playing well. I mean, 336 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: that's pretty He's been one of the worst quarterbacks in 337 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: the league this year. Statistically, You're right. In a league 338 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: where it's where it's hardware right now, not many quarterbacks 339 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: are truly struggling. You're right, I'm not just statistically like 340 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: not being comfortable with what he's seen, seeing ghosts in 341 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: the pocket. He hasn't been a good quarter And we 342 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: went from oh, you know, his interceptions are playful, and 343 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: Brett Farvelake because he's a Sea pirate throwing balls to 344 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: mostly his guys too too. Now it's he's turning the 345 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: ball over at a crazy race. But there's just no rhythm. 346 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: There was no rhythm in this game. This is one 347 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: reason why I always pushed back against when people said, well, 348 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: though that doesn't count. You know, the Rams racked up 349 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: numbers in garbage time or this team did in garbage 350 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that you're gonna get anything in garbage time. 351 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: The Browns were worse in the second half of this 352 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: game than they were in the first half. They end 353 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: up with, yeah, like a hundred yards. Beckham had his 354 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: two catches for twenty seven with about twenty seven minutes 355 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: left in the game, and it's twenty eight to three, 356 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: and the Browns couldn't even do anything when there was 357 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: nothing going on, when they had all the time in 358 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: the world to just try to pass, and they couldn't 359 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: do it this time. Let Jimmy j a little credit, 360 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: though he's a difference. The difference between Baker and Jimmy 361 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: G is Jimmy G's got a great defense and a 362 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: great coaching staff, everything for him. His first read. He 363 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: has not really had to do anything this year. And therefore, 364 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: now Nick bose with the last word on his rival. 365 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody thought he would be able 366 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: to see over Eric Armstead and DeForrest Buckner. But he 367 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: was panicking. He was double clutching, rolling back and forth. 368 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: We had him rattled all game. And that's it. Mark. 369 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: We won't talk about this game ever. Again, let's do 370 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: some news. Oh, I'm so sorry, you need a UK 371 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: passport to check those files. Therefore, British eyes ugly. Oh 372 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: you need the song in there, the a song as 373 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: what makes it? Well, we just got the song, all right. 374 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: Let's get into the big news and the only really 375 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: big news item here, which is Ja Gruden is out 376 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: as Redskins head coach, falling an oh and five start 377 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: uh and a thirty three to seven lost to the Patriots. 378 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: On Sunday, Gruden was fired. The team confirmed a report 379 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: that was out there. Gruden uh spoke out on Monday 380 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: saying that you know he has he's not bitter. He 381 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: had time to get things done, but it just never 382 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: happened over five and a half years. He did also 383 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: add though, that he wished he had a little more 384 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: control over who came into the building and who he 385 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: was coaching, which is at the heart or one of 386 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: the main issues around why Washington has been irrelevant for 387 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: years now and the idea that under Dan Snyder and 388 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: Bruce Allen, the team president, I believe, uh, this is 389 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: an organization that has not been cohesive. And as Jay 390 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: Gruden goes out the door and Jake Gruden. I think 391 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: we'll be fine. Jake Gruden will get another job as 392 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: an o C and maybe even get a second chance 393 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: as a head coach. You look ahead to the Redskins 394 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: West and when you look to find a new head coach, 395 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: and right now the interim coaches Bill Callahan. I don't 396 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: imagine he'll be the long term answer. There isn't it 397 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: a scary job for any coach to look at. Yeah, 398 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: I've been through this with the Bengals going back to 399 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: the nine nineties, where you know there's only thirty two 400 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: of these in your life. Is better when you're head 401 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: coach than it is when when you're a coordinator most 402 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: of the time. So I think people are gonna want it, 403 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: but maybe they don't get the first or second choice. 404 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: Maybe they get the third or fourth choice. They apparently 405 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: want Mike Tomlin. I mean that is the the coach 406 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: that Dan Snyder wants, which is great. Why would Mike 407 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: Tomlin want to go from one of the most stable, 408 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: well run organizations to an organization that hasn't settled on 409 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: a way to run things really since this ownership took over. 410 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: I mean they've they've played two playoff games in the 411 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: last eleven years. They've won two playoff games since Dan 412 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: Snyder took over, and one of those was in his 413 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: first year. And you look at the structure that they 414 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: always have. Bruce Allen took over this team in two 415 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: thousand ten. Back then he was the president and general manager, 416 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: and then he wasn't the general manager and they hired 417 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: Scott mcglewen and he lost it his job, and then 418 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Alan is somehow taking over again, but Doug Williams is involved, 419 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: but the owners picking the quarterback. They let j Gruden 420 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: coach one more game, I think, to let him coach 421 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: Colt McCoy. I really believe that, because Gruden had sounded 422 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: like knew he was about to be fired, and this 423 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: was kind of like I didn't choose r G three. 424 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: I never really wanted him. I was always ambivalent about 425 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Uh, And here I am with Dwayne Haskins, 426 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: who I didn't really want anyone. They're like, here have 427 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: Colte McCoy for one game, You're gonna stink and then 428 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna fin thought they had something going when McCluin 429 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: was picking players and turning the Redskins. There was a 430 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: season or two where they had a toughness vibe to them, 431 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: where they'd occasionally go and beat teams up, and they 432 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: were an enjoyable watch when they were on right West. 433 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: You agree with that. I remember you and I there 434 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: were weeks where we would just get fired up about 435 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: the Redskins imposing their will on other teams. But they 436 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: didn't just beat other teams up, they beat themselves up. 437 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons why after five and 438 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: a half years, I still don't know if Jake Bruden's 439 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: a good coach, you're a bad coach. I don't think 440 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: he's a bad coach because of how much that was 441 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: working against him, including the litany of injuries, which were 442 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, up there with the Chargers as the biggest 443 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: plague in the league. There's here's part of the problem 444 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: with Bruce Allen here because they asked him uh and 445 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: his press conference about you know, is their culture issue 446 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: with this team? He responds, you know, the culture is 447 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: actually damn good. These people care. We have a very 448 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: young core of players that we have brought in here 449 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: or accustomed to winning. If you look at the record 450 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: of these guys, they're accustomed to winning. They want to 451 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: win some of that is just GM speak and presidents speak, 452 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: but also there's a lack of accountability and the understanding 453 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: that maybe it's time to shift the dynamic of how 454 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: things are operated with the organization. I was on the 455 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: airplane and had a chance to watch this press conference, 456 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: and first of all, this this is the guy you 457 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: have to wheel out to answer what I thought were 458 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: some tough questions by some very frustrated Redskins beat writers 459 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: try to ask the questions that this extremely frustrated fan 460 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: base wants to ask of their owner and of Bruce Allen, 461 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: and it felt to me answer after answer like fraudulent 462 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: soft sell military industrial complex solutions to stuff that will 463 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: never actually get a real answer on. It was impossible 464 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: for me to take it seriously and it was offensive, 465 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: to be honest. Sometimes these NFL press conferences are really 466 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: tough to watch because you can see through it. You 467 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: can see through it, and this fan base is one 468 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: that I think has less hope than almost any in 469 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: the league. Because even if you're a Dolphins fan, you 470 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: can say there's some vision here, what is the Redskins vision? 471 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: And Bruce Allen basically said I couldn't be happier with 472 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: what I've done up till now, I thought he took 473 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: no accountability at all. I think it's the toughest job 474 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: in the NFL, even tougher than then the Bengals, you know, 475 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: for a head coach. And I think they're a great 476 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: example of what a golden goose the NFL is. You know, 477 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: their situation and on game day is not very popular. 478 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: Fans are not showing up, The stadium experience isn't great. 479 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: The team has been, you know, one of the very worst, 480 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: and the franchise only keeps increasing in value. They keep 481 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: printing money like owning and running the Redskins is about 482 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: as profitable and you know, risk free of business as possible, 483 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: even though compared to the other thirty thirty one franchises 484 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: in the league, they're run poorly. To your point, one 485 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: quick thing about Bruce Allen was asked, why what was 486 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: your response to against the Patriots? More than half the 487 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: stadium was Patriots fans who were drowning out the Redskins 488 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: and cheering on Tom Brady. And that's happening in other 489 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: stadiums too. But Bruce Allen, instead of saying this is 490 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: a you know something and I understand looks bad and 491 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: we need to bring our fan, this proud fan base back. 492 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: Basically put it on the fans for selling the tickets 493 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: on the second market. He basically said, this is on 494 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: the fans for creating that environment. This is on you. 495 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: This is on a team that has coasted forever in 496 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: terms of team building. Okay, and one last note before 497 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: we move on Callaghan, as I said, the new interim 498 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: head coach, so that Dwayne Haskins won't be starting, uh 499 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: anytime soon. So it'll be Colt McCoy, or it will 500 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: be case Keenum. Uh. So get excited, Washington, But probably 501 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: the right move based on what we've seen and what 502 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: we've heard about the first round pick so far. I 503 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: thought there was a subtle departure from j Gruden in 504 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: that Bill Callahan seemed to go out of his way 505 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: to say Haskins isn't an option now, but that doesn't 506 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: mean he won't be an option later in the year, 507 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: whereas Gruden seemed to be going out of his way 508 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: to say, this guy is just not ready. You know, 509 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: we we can't put him out there. You know, there 510 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: was all these reasons. It just seemed like Gruden was 511 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: at wits end. Basically, he didn't want Haskins, and now 512 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: you know he knew he was a dead man walking. 513 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, now I'm gonna put in your quarterback 514 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: because I fired a struggle. That's all right, which goes 515 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: to what we're talking about. I I, you know, that's 516 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: not a good look for Gruden, but what are you 517 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: doing letting your coach in first round pick go into 518 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: a season when they don't want each other. Gruden is 519 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: gonna be the head coach of the Jets in January. 520 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: That's my pro I think offensive coordinator for the Raiders 521 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: the Gruden boys. All right, let's uh now move on. 522 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: Before we move on, we checked into our hotel right 523 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: before we got in a cabin headed over here to 524 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: the stadium, and um, you know, as I was getting 525 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: getting my things together my room, I don't know if 526 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: you guys have there's a bit of a weird energy 527 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: to the hotel rooms. Anybody else picking that up? Well, 528 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: this just like the vibe to it a little bit. Yes, 529 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and m and I started, I 530 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: took out my phone and hit record because honestly, listen 531 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: to what happened in my room as I was getting 532 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: ready to meet you guys downstairs in the lobby. That's 533 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: the sink. Yes, when I shaved. Wait, wait, who are you? 534 00:27:53,359 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: Are you that it's talking back? What are you trying 535 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: to tell me? Now? Listen to this part? Am I 536 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: in danger? See how the pitch went up like it's 537 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: you're having a conversation. It sounds like a woman, maybe 538 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: one of Jack the Rippers victims. We're on the east 539 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: side of London and and she's trying to tell me something. 540 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 1: It's a clear cut poultr geist. And Erica asked, are 541 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: you gonna ask to move rooms? And absolutely not. I 542 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: want to try to help her. I've got the same 543 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: situation going on, and my pipes are singing. All right, 544 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: so get the phone out and we'll track this day. 545 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: They put me up on the top floor and I 546 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: have a number one, a beautiful view of the city 547 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: and it's an enormous room. Just jike in it, really beautiful, huge, 548 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: multiple bathrooms. All right, let's uh, let's get to it now. Yes, 549 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: Greg takes out the iPad. He shows me the sports 550 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: update and it was an exciting moment um and you know, 551 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: also Greg the spill on the guy, Oh that was tough. 552 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: Because Greg. It was a minor spell. Greg is a 553 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: guy that you know when he's in his in his 554 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: realm and he's in his world and he's got his 555 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: book and he's relaxing on the plane, he doesn't want 556 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: people messing with him. You know a lot of people 557 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: aren't like that. You know. Um And the last thing, 558 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: you never wanted somebody to spill on you. When you 559 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: accidentally spilled on this gentleman who was very nice about it, 560 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: I I felt very badly for you because that's the 561 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: guy made. The guy made a real big like he 562 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: kind of he was nice about it, but he kind 563 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: of made a big scene. He like stood up and 564 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 1: he's wiping down. And then as he's going to use 565 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: the rest room to wipe himself off some more, he 566 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: knocks Greg's drink over and it's it's basically a giant disaster. 567 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: And I mean, I was next to both of them. 568 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: Was kind of a fun show. But I also did 569 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: feel for Greg. He was early man. Now he was 570 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: not he was he was a petite young man. He 571 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: was a man. He was a man who watched Mrs 572 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: Doubtfire I think twice. He might not have been twice, 573 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: but it seems to be going on for a long time. 574 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: He just he you have a two hundred and seventy 575 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: five entertainment options, and you go straight for the doubt fire, 576 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: like right off the top while the plane was still 577 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: on the runway. It was only about an eighth of 578 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 1: the water. That plane hadn't even taken off. And then 579 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: he knocked his whole thing over. But I wasn't sitting there. 580 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: You know, we all we all avoided me. Anyway, Greg 581 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: hands the iPad over, I get the update on my 582 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: baseball team, and they got got us thinking. Uh, Like 583 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: I said before, what if the iPad got handed to 584 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: you on that plane and you have not seen anything 585 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: about the NFL until that very moment, what would be 586 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: the biggest surprise to you to see on that iPad? 587 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: You look at this guy would be like, give it 588 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: to me. I want some more doubt fire need it. 589 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: And also the guy Greg was nice enough to hand 590 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: over the iPad. He had a hand it over, this gentleman, 591 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: and I could read his mind. Like I asked at 592 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: the beginning of the Floyd if you if you guys 593 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: want to switch seats. He got me the middle of 594 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: this mess. Now we see what you're doing guy. You 595 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: just wanted anile seat, which you know. I don't blame play. 596 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: It was going to happen. Didn't work out eat the 597 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: middle seat. In fact, when I checked in my bag, 598 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: the woman said to me, oh, you could be a 599 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: look the seats empty right now, and it got me 600 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: all excited. And then you see him there, so he 601 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: got well. I was told that too. You're fine. Listen, 602 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: there's a gaping wide middle seat. Where did you check 603 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: end in Los Angeles? And they were British. Yeah, that's crazy. 604 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: You haven't You haven't noticed sometimes foreign airlines that they're 605 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: often employed by the countries in which they served. Greg 606 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: dunking in the States only slightly condescending, Yeah, Greg towards America. 607 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: But Eric was being condescending and judging me. But that 608 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: was the I just thought you were stuck in the 609 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: that's the norm. So Greg was defending Dan by being 610 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: viciously condescending, coming coming back at her in the same time. 611 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: This jet lacks hit. Okay, let's get to it, Greg, 612 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: I hand you the iPad. I'm stunned to see that 613 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints and Carolina Panthers lost their starting 614 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks Drew Brees and Cam Newton, and they've gone three 615 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: and o since that, They've each won three straight games 616 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: against pretty good competition. Of all the things that have 617 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: happened this season, that seems the most remarkable to me. 618 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: We did not give the Saints much hope of running 619 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: the gauntlet of these last three weeks. When Teddy Bridgewater 620 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 1: took over, none of us even thought they were gonna win. 621 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: In Seattle. We you know, West locked him up and 622 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: we all agreed with him in the room like that 623 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: was a game that they were not gonna win. That 624 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: seems a little less surprising for the Panthers to rally 625 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: around uh Kyle Allen, who's had his moments, and certainly 626 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the team has to that. That to 627 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: me is as stunning it as anything, and it proves 628 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL like it really it's such a cliche, 629 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: but it's such a team game. Even if this uh 630 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: coma that we're in for the first part of the 631 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: season began after that Thursday Night lost to the Bucks, 632 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: we'd be surprised that the Panthers did this. We were 633 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: talking about the coach being flushed out, Cam Newton gone forever, 634 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: et cetera. Let we get a little Kyle Allen here. 635 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: We got a panther's helmet, right, and I mean the team, Yeah, 636 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: Kyle Allen has had some moments, really the first game, 637 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: but they really rallied around the greatness of Christian McCaffrey. 638 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: And with the Saints, well, I guess what surprises me 639 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: or is what's been the most impressive is they're getting 640 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: better every week. They they you know, from the Seattle 641 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: game to the Dallas game and now what we saw 642 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Bucks. They're just I mean, they 643 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: are scared. There's no lower The Falcons and fans have 644 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: had some low moments, and certainly the Super Bowl is 645 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: the lowest. But when when Drew Brees went out and 646 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: the Falcons are coming off a Sunday night win against Atlanta, 647 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: the talk was can the Falcons open up a little 648 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: bit of a lead there in the NFC South before 649 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: Breeze gets back. Fast forward just three weeks and they're 650 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: buried in last place. Yeah, West, I'm heading you the iPad. Well, 651 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this is let's let's say I'm a 652 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: Steelers fan. I look at this iPad. My team is 653 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: one and four with an undrafted four string rookie quarterback 654 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: about to make his first NFL starting The Dolphins have 655 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: my non lottery protective first round draft pick, rough Sitch. 656 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: That's a surprise when I look at that that iPad 657 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: with a lot of turmoil. That's beyond the worst case scenario. 658 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: At the time, Josh Dobbs would have been your third 659 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: string quarterback. So instead you have a guy named deviled 660 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: eggs Hodges here who's starting on. His name is Duck. 661 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: His nickname is Duck. He's like a nineteen quarterback with 662 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: a leather helmet. Here's the hell of it. That's the 663 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: straight the dire straits you're in. But if Marlon Humphrey 664 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: doesn't push punch that ball out, that same undrafted four 665 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: string rookie quarterback might have just led you into first 666 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: place in the f C North last week. Close and 667 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: let me see that. I pad a second. We're not 668 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: going to dwell on it, but it is pretty stunning. 669 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: At the Browns have a quarterback that leads the NFL 670 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: interceptions and their offense isn't moving the ball. We knew 671 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: Cincinnati was bad, maybe not quite this bad. And I mentioned, uh, 672 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Ravens. Maybe they're the only team 673 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: in that division where I'd be like, Okay, this makes sense, 674 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: that's what I expected. Said they just got bombed by 675 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: Cleveland a week ago. That division is all over the place. Yeah, 676 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: but you kind of could see them being maybe up 677 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: and down, um hot and cold. But the rest of 678 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: the division is really wacky. Mark, take the iPad, what 679 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 1: do you see? The story that I would be clicking 680 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: into article after article after article as an odyssey that 681 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: took us to such bizarre places, but that I don't 682 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: want to rehash entirely right now because everyone knows so 683 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: much about it is the odyssey of Antonio Brown and 684 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: what happened if you went to bed in August and 685 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: you woke up. Now the fact that at any point 686 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: he went to the Patriots and things got even worse 687 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: from everything that you knew about, and hard knocks and 688 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: the way it ended with Oakland all that, But I 689 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: want to spend it more positively that a team that 690 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: has changed the way I feel about them, that I 691 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: can't wait for them to play each week to check 692 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: them out is the Lions. And I'm not saying that 693 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: they have a a roster filled with magical parts like 694 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: some of these teams that are leading the division and 695 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: staring towards the playoffs. But the Lions to me have 696 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: been deadweight for a decade plus dating back forever, and 697 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,479 Speaker 1: have never had any belief in them. And I can't 698 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: stand their dome and all this other stuff that I 699 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: railed against them, their uniforms, everything from from start to finish. 700 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, who I thought had come close to a 701 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: player revolt at points in his first year, has instilled 702 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: some different type of culture in Detroit where he's got 703 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: the right type of players and that that meant bringing 704 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: in some Patriots guys, some known products, and that is 705 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: it is. It has turned the NFC North to me 706 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: into a much more interesting division because it isn't just 707 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: green Bay and it isn't just Chicago. The other quick 708 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: thing I would notice is green Bay's defense, another team. 709 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: I've always been down on green Bay their defense, and 710 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: they're not perfect either, but the way that they can 711 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: hassle a quarterback and you're cheating right now? Why Yeah, Well, 712 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: the NFC North being one a division that I enjoy 713 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: when I I really disliked the NFC North and I 714 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: can't explain why Antonio Brown thing. This guy is not 715 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: even in the league. I haven't. Haven't we spit through that. 716 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: The Antonio Brown thing is outrageous. The Patricia thing. I agree. 717 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm totally surprised because it seemed like after year one 718 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,959 Speaker 1: I hogged the iPad. He was going. He was going 719 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: the way of so many other Bellcheck disciples, where you 720 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: go it along and go it alone and flame out. 721 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: Darryl Bello was a great higher by him. If you 722 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: look at their them, the way they're producing on offense, 723 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 1: they you know, things went so well Jim Bob Cooter 724 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 1: initially and then that stopped working last year. They're running 725 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: game is up um seventeen yards of game. And Matthew 726 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: Stafford who before the season West, I remember I was 727 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: talking about, who is Matthew Stafford? What is he um? 728 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: Through four weeks, he's he's got career best rates and 729 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: yards per attempt adjusted, yards per TEMP, yards per completion uh. 730 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: And he's attempting the ball down the field more than 731 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: any quarterback this year on average. He's throwing deeper passes. Well. 732 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: They they've gone up in one of the most crucial stats. 733 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: I think that every NFL team tracks which is the 734 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast usage rate. The Detroit Lions barely 735 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: mentioned for many months in the off season. Now we 736 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: can't get through a show without talking about the Detroit Lions. 737 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: We love them. If we had a team of a 738 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: year not fun to watch, They've got a better point 739 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: differential than the four and one first place New Orleans Saints. 740 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: Do we have a team of a T N whoa 741 00:38:52,760 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: out of nowhere? Is it coming naturally? The team wants 742 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: to shine up t This is a very special higher 743 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: It's always better when it comes naturally. All right, I'll 744 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: close it out, Mark, I thought you were going when 745 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: you mentioned Antonio Brown during your winding narrative there. Um, 746 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna give the Raiders some shine and 747 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: John Gruden specifically because if you went out of pocket 748 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: at the end of training camp, right after Hard Knocks ended, 749 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: and right when Antonio Brown was hiring a social media 750 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: expert to craft tweets that would get him fired by 751 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: his team, and the Raiders got absolutely savaged for the experiment, 752 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: which you know is fair in the moment to do that. 753 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,479 Speaker 1: There was nobody that said, well, the Raiders, not only 754 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: are they going to survive without Antonio Brown. They are 755 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: gonna be absolutely in the mix, and they're even gonna 756 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: go to London and beat up the Bears and win 757 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: a game. They are three and two heading into their 758 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,479 Speaker 1: bye week, and uh, they are not a great team. 759 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: I don't think they are going to be someone that 760 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: puts a scare into any a f C superpower, but 761 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: it is undeniable thus far from what we've seen that 762 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: there is progress in the John Gruden uh empire here 763 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: from year one to year two, and there was a 764 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: lot of writing grudening off immediately. We had to give 765 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: him time to start building something and they could finish 766 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: five and eleven. It's certainly possible. But where we stand 767 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: right now, they are they they are success story. Uh. 768 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: In the NFL, Sara, I thought you were going to 769 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: mention that we lost a quarterback to a teen kissing illness. 770 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: I don't need to talk about that anymore, but that 771 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: would surprise you if you read that on an iPad. 772 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: That team, though, the Jets, and we forget about it now, 773 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: there was a lot of this is going to bloom 774 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: into something very watchable too. Forget about that. There was 775 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: a very favorable shine to them. Yeah, the Raiders. Even 776 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: two weeks ago we had given up on I mean 777 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: they had just gotten beaten up on the Chiefs and 778 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: the Vikings and back to back weeks, and they were 779 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: in the middle of what appeared to be the toughest 780 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: road trip in NFL history and they still have a 781 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: while to go on it. But they just won an 782 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 1: Indian and they just beat the Bears in London. It 783 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: is shocking to me because you look up and down, 784 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't really makes sense in terms of their talent. 785 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: But I think their offensive line is good, and I 786 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: think John Gruden has done a very nice job coaching 787 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: that offense to be about as efficient as it can be. 788 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: And Josh Jacob is one of those players that they 789 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: got essentially for Khalil Mctrade, which I'm not defending that trade, 790 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: but it should be noted that he looks like a 791 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: young start running back and and this team has some pieces. Now, uh, 792 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: they're they're a team that could be on the rise, 793 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: could be. How about you hand me the iPad and 794 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: I check out the NFC West standings and the Rams 795 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: are in three and two, but they're in third place. 796 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: This is the best division of football. Forget the NFC, 797 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: NFC North. These are three teams that I find all 798 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: of them really fascinating. The forty Niners, Seahawks, and Rams. 799 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: I think they're all legit contenders. I don't know where 800 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,479 Speaker 1: they're going, but I think the Rams with the forty 801 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: Niners coming in this week, and we can talk about 802 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: that on the previous show, obviously they have to be 803 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: a little worried here because you do not want to 804 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: be third place in your own division. This becomes a 805 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: monster game this week, and all three I don't think 806 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 1: they're flukey. I think they're talented, and I just I'm 807 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: looking forward to watching these three teams played each other 808 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: all season. I point to one thing too that I 809 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: I the Niners coming off that game, you're four No 810 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: see you? But there isn't one clear cut dominant team 811 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: in my mind, just because I have sudden ling green 812 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: questions about the Patriots offense, but they'll probably go fourteen 813 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: and two. I think that's especially true. Yeah, you're right. 814 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: In the NFC, how many teams could go to the 815 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: super Bowl? You love my mind? My brain. I mean, 816 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: she's contractually obligated. Let me see that I've paid. Okay, 817 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: last one we gotta we gotta keep moving. But go ahead, West. 818 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: It says here Aaron Jones has more tds than Aaron 819 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 1: Rodgers this year, and yet only Bill Belichick has more 820 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: wins than at the flower As Mark like, there's a 821 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: lot going on there, a lot going on there that's 822 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: pretty special. I did think. I did think that. I 823 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: always because you know, you know, a quarterback Aaron Rodgers 824 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: looked happy obviously most of that game against the Cowboys, 825 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: but not throwing a touchdown pass. You know, he's Aaron Jones, 826 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, score all four of the touchdowns. It's like 827 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: Walter Payton and the Bear Super Bowl when didn't he 828 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: didn't score, He never got over went and hid in 829 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: the closet that they get They gave the fridge the 830 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 1: ball at the goal line that had give him Walter 831 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: the hard earned uh super Bowl touchdown that he always 832 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: prayed that might have been a higher instance than this 833 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 1: random regular season. Shouldn't it shouldn't be considered a shocker. 834 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: That glory boy Mike Dicka was wasn't thinking about people. 835 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: How about that Gregg. It's got to take the dicker 836 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: shot Dicka got bang oh two at that Super Bowl 837 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: twenty probably dominant win, a dominant win for the Bears. 838 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: Of course, it was not Dicka who got carried off 839 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: the field. It was Buddy Ryan. Yes, it was the 840 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator that team. You could feel the implosion coming. 841 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: Why are we expanding into a deep look at the 842 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: You know, I was about the second. Dick's got the steakhouses, 843 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: so he won in the end. Uh. And he's got 844 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: the Dicka and uh and Dwarsky cigar bash that happens 845 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: every Super Bowl week. That's a big thing. He's got 846 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: the Saturday Night Live skit. No one's done more about 847 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: Dick tam pose he's gonna kill that was done more 848 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 1: with one Super Bowl than well here in England. Here 849 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: in England, from what we can gather, the love of 850 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 1: the NFL really started to bloom in the eighties. I've 851 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 1: talked to had many conversations with Handsome Hank about this. 852 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: And the Dolphins, Dan Marino and the Bears, that famous 853 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: five Bears team are are teams that captured the imagination 854 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: of this region. And that's why you heard so many 855 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: Bear fans going nuts during their comeback against the Raiders 856 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: last Sunday. Uh. And then they let them down because 857 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,240 Speaker 1: of the curse. The curse I call it of Walter Payton. 858 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: How many Super Bowl titles since they didn't let him 859 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: go into the end zone? Big old zero. That's a 860 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: good talk. Maybe that's the Maybe that's who's in my hotel. 861 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 1: Forget the billy, go set them free, Walter. We did 862 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: not need to fashion that. All right, let's before we 863 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 1: get out of here, Thursday night football, which uh man, 864 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: that game is gonna start late here, huhne in the morning. 865 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: The New York Giants dream. Mark Brady said he's staying 866 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: up for it until four thirty to make sure the 867 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: editing processes goes smoothly. Lying he's gonna say that to 868 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: his bosses, but they'll be asleep. I have it demon 869 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: travel to Foxborough the Pats. Let's go over the path 870 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: the records of the New England Patriots opponents so far 871 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 1: this year. Week one, they got the Dolphins, right, No, Steelers, 872 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: Steelers one and four. Week two they got the Dolphins. 873 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: They got the Dolphins, yeah, oh and five. Week three 874 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: they get the Jets, oh and four. Week four they 875 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: get the Bills four and one. Nice. Week five the Redskins, 876 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 1: oh and five. Week six, the Giants two and three. 877 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: Week seven, the Jets oh and four. That's nice. That's 878 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: a nice setup for the Pats. It seems a little crooked. 879 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie a little bit crooked, Greg, it's 880 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: been a little lucky, I mean, especially defensively that even 881 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: the good team you played, the Bills, do not have 882 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: a good offense. All these numbers. Let's calm down, Patriots fan, 883 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: they've seen these articles. This is is this the best 884 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: Patriots defense ever? Are you kidding me? Did anyone watch 885 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: football in the beginning of the Those teams were insanely 886 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: talented on all three levels, dominated opponents, and did it 887 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: throughout the playoffs. This team is dominating cream puffs. It's 888 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 1: the it's the season. I'm not sure if they're top 889 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: five defense. I think they probably are. But let's calm down. 890 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: With the combined records so far of New Englands opponents 891 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: five and nineteen, whoa, all right, let's get to this game. 892 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: Five of those losses came from the Pats. Yeah, you 893 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: gotta take those apps, alright, Alright, let's get to it. 894 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: Danny Dimes, Greg, once upon a time you hoped that 895 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: you could end Eli Manning's career as if that would 896 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: take away the agony of those two Super Bowl defeats 897 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: at the hands of the great Elijah Manning. But instead 898 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 1: he's a long gone now he's he's in the rear 899 00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: view mirror. It's Daniel Jones against Tom Brady. Uh. Interesting 900 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: matchup between a twenty two year old passer and a 901 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: forty two year old passer. Who will last longer in 902 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: the league not clear at this point. Uh do we 903 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: expect the game at Foxborough? You know? The people in 904 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: the desert don't um and I and I can see why, 905 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: because the Giants are gonna be without Sterling Shepherd. It 906 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,439 Speaker 1: sounds like Sae Kwon Barkley is still a long shot 907 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: to play. Wayne Gallman might not play. And I think 908 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: we saw last week against the Vikings what can happen 909 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: when this Giant's offense plays a more talented defense with 910 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: a coordinator who knows how to attack a rookie Daniel Jones, 911 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: And it certainly wasn't all on him, But he's not 912 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: enough to save this organization right now? Well, no, and 913 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: then you lose Sterling Shepherd, you lose se Kwon Barkley. 914 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: So he's been playing without some of their best players, 915 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: and you're expecting him to repeat these heroics that he 916 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: did against the Buccaneers. This is a bad team and 917 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 1: they've been playing like and the bigger thing is they 918 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 1: never have the ball because their defense can't get us. 919 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: Belichick absolutely adores facing young rookie quarterbacks, and this is 920 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: a good matchup for him. I meant it. I put 921 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: it at the level of I would be utterly, humanly 922 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: shocked if the Giants won this game, humanly shocked if 923 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 1: it was in the Metal Lands, maybe in prime time, 924 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: and I don't care if it's I don't care if 925 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: it's played in Eli Manning's backyard. The Patriots have a 926 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: lot to work on, but I don't think on both 927 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: sides of the ball, especially on offense. But you look 928 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: at this Giant's defense and it's you know, it's still 929 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: right there with the very worst in the league. If 930 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: the Patriots can't get healthy in terms of running the 931 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: ball and being having a little more rhythm on offense, 932 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,399 Speaker 1: they're not gonna have Philip door set in this game. 933 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: Then that's caused for concern at this stage of the season. 934 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: But you you said it. They have the Jets and 935 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: then they finally kind of face the meat of their schedule. 936 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: They have about a six or seven weeks stretch against 937 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of playoff type of maybe through the ball 938 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: thirty one times in the first half on Sunday, and 939 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: they were not doing much. It wasn't until they really 940 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 1: started moving the ball on the ground that Brady was 941 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: able to get loose. And uh, they opened the floodgates 942 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: on the red skin. They intentionally abandoned the run and 943 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: they I came out of that game they by in 944 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: the end. They did everything you would have thought, and 945 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: you look at the box score, it looked fine. But 946 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: they if they get tangled with an opponent that forces 947 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: them to make explosive plays, the Patriots don't have that 948 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: right now. They missed Gronkowski and Josh Gordon and and Brady. 949 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,720 Speaker 1: There was a deep connection where Brady just completely overthrow. 950 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: They're not completely in sync. No, he doesn't know what 951 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: Gordon is gonna do. That's the key to being of 952 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady receiver is you have to see the defense 953 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 1: the same way he does, and Gordon doesn't. Breaking news 954 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: speak of the devil, speak of the sentient keg Rob 955 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: Gronkowski will make his Network debut this week on Fox 956 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: NFL Thursday. And let me tell you something that is 957 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: all that is. Don't worry about the debut one as 958 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 1: an analyst. That's not his future. We all know that's 959 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: not what he's gonna be doing. That just takes him 960 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: one step closer to the game, one step closer to 961 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: the field, and the Patriots, who do not have a 962 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: tight end they could rely on. Right now, get ready, everybody, 963 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: it's happening, and this is the first step toward his 964 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 1: return in December, which will not only um, you know, 965 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: really helped the Patriots win another super Bowl, it will 966 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: get me sandwiches. And that's the great thing. I um, 967 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: I still think it's about on that whole sandwich thing. 968 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 1: But I don't know how you got. This moves him 969 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 1: closer to the field by him moving into these remember 970 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: distinctive away Remember but he was at like a taco 971 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 1: hut opening and he was getting choked up and he 972 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: said he you know, he couldn't play and he was hurt. Uh, 973 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 1: and he was trying to get away from football. Well, 974 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: now he's talking about football. He's gonna be on the 975 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: football field. He's gonna be talking to Terry Bradshaw he's 976 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,919 Speaker 1: gonna be reminiscing about the good old day and it's 977 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 1: coming back. Here comes the I think Taco Hut would 978 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: bring him closer than actually broadcasting the games. I would 979 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 1: hope if they do bring him back, it goes better 980 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: than the Ben Watson reunion, who they had to release 981 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 1: this week after he came up suspension. It is a 982 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: very w w E move, and Gronk is very much 983 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: a w w E guy and fan to kind of 984 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: come back late in the season. It's happening, do it. 985 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, Ryan is oh ways, and the 986 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: analysis of this, let's not glaze over this. Rob Gronkowski 987 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: is going to be an analyst, okay, because we are 988 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: definitely coming back. What are half of these hires. It's personality, 989 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 1: it's charisma, it's shouting at the camera, you know, that's 990 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: It's not I wouldn't. I wouldn't. We're not getting mathematical. 991 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: He's you know, camera magic when it comes to you know, 992 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: thinking of his feet and breaking things down or in 993 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 1: a funny joke I just thought. I mean, it's it's 994 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: a certain skill set to thrive in the job that 995 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: he's taking. That's all A bunch of regular stand up 996 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: comedians in the Fox Sports broadcasting group. Please all right, 997 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: let's get out of here. Um. Yes, here's what's coming 998 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: up this week Thursday, Hey, Moose and Goose, let's go 999 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 1: down to the chuckle Hot the Taco our Thursday preview. 1000 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: You'll get that a video show. We'll go up at 1001 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: noon Pacific, three m Eastern, three pm Eastern eight pm BT. 1002 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 1: I guess that's the time zone. News to me. UH, 1003 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 1: Sky will be at Sky Sports on Wednesday, so if 1004 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: you're UH from this region, check that out. Inside the 1005 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: Huddle Show airing on Sky Sports, hosted by Neil the 1006 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: Great Neil Reynolds. A venue show at Tottenham Stadium shop 1007 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: coming up exclusively to Game pass subscribers. Can we share 1008 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,879 Speaker 1: the number of the people that the number of people 1009 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: that try to get tickets to this? Eighteen thousand people 1010 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: UH signed up to get the tickets we had to 1011 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 1: turn away roughly seventeen thousand, nine fourteen. Mark. Are we 1012 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: sending those notess back to Culver City for various bosses 1013 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: and higher ups to just so we have a shadowy 1014 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: late figure is confirming this figure. It felt like maybe 1015 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: an extra zero had gotten put on there by a 1016 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: type of that seems outrageous. No, I asked the guy 1017 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: to repeat himself. I said, I'm sorry, you said thousands. 1018 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean the Charlotte Hornets don't draw that much. I'm 1019 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: starting to think we gotta the venue was too small 1020 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 1: that we booked for our Friday live show. How well, 1021 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: all right, that's it. We let's catch up on some sleep, 1022 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 1: Let's get some room service. Let's let's snuggle under the 1023 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: blankets together. Boys, all of us in the same room. 1024 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: You in this female ghost in your room. Let's go 1025 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: jealous of your female ghost. You have a robot in 1026 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 1: your garage. You got a female ghost signing off for 1027 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: the Quiet Star on the mail Man. Bill Voss, Ricky 1028 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: Hollywood on the scene until Thursday m