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Speaker 1: Look at Our Radio is a radio phonic novela, which

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Speaker 1: and Theosa where Too I friends turned podcast partners, breaking

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Local Radio Season seven, Take us to your network.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, like welcome back to another coupit the

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Speaker 1: law of like look at a radio, Look at what

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Speaker 1: a radio is like a radiophonic novella, which is like

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Speaker 1: a really extra way of saying, like a podcast cast

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Speaker 1: like this is like the language episode. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people have like commented on like our use of the

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Speaker 1: word like when we talk so okay, y'all in all seriousness,

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Speaker 1: we like got a comment from someone that not a listener,

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Speaker 1: ours sound bite and said, I'm sorry, I can't get

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Speaker 1: past the use of like every two words. And I responded, sorry,

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Speaker 1: want to because it becomes socially acceptable. Same thing with

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Speaker 1: the word irregardless now being an acceptable to some word

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Speaker 1: because people kept using it. Speech professors teach how to

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Speaker 1: avoid fillers. I know, because I was terrified of public

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Speaker 1: my words. She's telling me to shut the funk up. Basically,

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Speaker 1: she said, gita, bitch. Yes, that is literally what she

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Speaker 1: said to me, y'all, And I just said, okay, because

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Speaker 1: she does not follow. She does not listen, but at

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Speaker 1: least her reels are reaching new audience. Thank god, thank god.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, that that little exchange inspired this episode because

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Speaker 1: in all seriousness, right, there is a use of the

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Speaker 1: so many ways. We like to say like, I will

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Speaker 1: say that same episode, even my mother, my mother was

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Speaker 1: my mother was was like, I'm sick, I'm in bad,

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Speaker 1: saying like so much. Yeah, you know, I think that

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Speaker 1: that clip that you used, I love I love the clip.

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Speaker 1: I like the clip. Afterwards, after I read that comment,

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Speaker 1: Like it's not anything, you know, those those like cannon

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