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Speaker 1: and then he ends up winning him a national champion,

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Speaker 1: and that in and of itself was pretty unprecedented. But

428
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Speaker 1: we're talking about a fourth string guy at Georgia right now.

429
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 1: You could write a whole book on what the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty season has been for Georgia yet and what are

431
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Speaker 1: we going into Week three? So yes, week three for them.

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Speaker 1: I mean remember this, Remember any preseason magazine you bought

433
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Speaker 1: out there, if you bought the regional covers. I actually

434
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Speaker 1: don't know who was on the covers this year, but

435
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Speaker 1: Jamie Newman had to be featured prominently. He transferred from

436
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Speaker 1: Wake Forest, Like, that's the guy. We're gonna couple him

437
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Speaker 1: up with Todd Monk, a new offensive coordinator, and that's

438
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Speaker 1: what's gonna push Georgia this year. And coupled with this

439
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: defense they have that offense, they're gonna be good enough

440
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Speaker 1: to win a national title. And then he throws up

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Speaker 1: the deuces and he opts out. But that's okay, becos.

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Speaker 1: J T. Daniels transferred in, and Kirby wisely pursued him

443
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Speaker 1: and kept him from going to Tennessee somewhere else. And

444
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Speaker 1: now lo and behold, we got a former five star

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Speaker 1: guy in JT. Daniels. He'll be the guy, but he's

446
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Speaker 1: not medically cleared. Okay, well, he'll eventually be cleared, but

447
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Speaker 1: until that time, Dewan mathis has anyone heard this name?

448
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: Oh my good, he's been making some moves in camp,

449
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Speaker 1: and then he is deer in headlights in Week one

450
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Speaker 1: against Arkansas and steps Stetson Bennett. I hope you guys

451
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Speaker 1: watched the broadcast the other night when they were playing Auburn.

452
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Speaker 1: Chris Fowler and Kirkirk Street in the national ESPN crew

453
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Speaker 1: they told a story that a lot of us had

454
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Speaker 1: heard behind the scenes about a month and a half ago,

455
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Speaker 1: that coaching staff meeting with Stetson Bennett telling him, listen,

456
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Speaker 1: I means we got to make business decisions here and

457
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Speaker 1: we probably don't have a future for you here at quarterback.

458
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Speaker 1: Fast forward a month and a half, he's starting against Auburn,

459
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Speaker 1: winning against Auburn. I don't know that wins or a

460
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Speaker 1: quarterback stat, but he is the winning quarterback against Auburn.

461
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Speaker 1: And now he's the guy, at least for the time being.

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Speaker 1: According to Kirby Smart, and he's very careful to phrase

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Speaker 1: it like that, he for the time being is the

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Speaker 1: guy for Georgia. I think, ultimately, and I've made this

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Speaker 1: point pretty unequivocally, I think the ultimate ceiling of this

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Speaker 1: team is below SEC championship caliber. If he reins quarterback. There,

467
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Speaker 1: it's a good story. You've heard me caveat this to death. Okay,

468
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Speaker 1: I'm not hating on the guy. I'm just telling you

469
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Speaker 1: they need JT. Daniels ultimately, they need that ability, they

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Speaker 1: need that kind of arm talent. Because they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to score. Doesn't mean you're not shutting everybody out. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: not Auburn, Okay. People will be able to dent the

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Speaker 1: scoreboard even against this defense, believe it or not. And

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to happen every week. This is not

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Speaker 1: a sport where you go six and four and make

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Speaker 1: the playoff. This is a sport where you gotta win

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Speaker 1: pretty much every week. And so George's got to win

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Speaker 1: pretty much every week. And if they lose one game,

479
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: they're already in zero margin for era territory. They gotta

480
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Speaker 1: be able to stretch feel a little bit. But it

481
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Speaker 1: is a remarkable story. Now, it is a truly remarkable

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Speaker 1: story unfolding there. Casey, next up, Casey, this is a

483
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Speaker 1: great point. You're gonna make, very important point. I think, societally, culturally, personally, emotionally,

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Speaker 1: this is an important point for me. Casey says, I

485
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Speaker 1: think it's crazy how you're always talking about Fleetwood Mac

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Speaker 1: and that song Dreams and now it's gone viral. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is crazy, isn't it, Casey? It's crazy. But I'm

488
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Speaker 1: going to tell you what's really crazy in just a second.

489
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Speaker 1: If you're unaware of what Casey's talking about. I've chosen

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Speaker 1: not to engage on TikTok yet probably will eventually. It's

491
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Speaker 1: it's not a platform that fascinates me or captures me,

492
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Speaker 1: but a lot of you are on there. And so

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Speaker 1: you've seen the dude who just records videos himself riding around,

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Speaker 1: I guess, on a skateboard chugging, of all things, cranberry juice,

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Speaker 1: which is a lovely concoction. I love cranberry juice. I

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Speaker 1: don't normally chug it from the cartan while riding a

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Speaker 1: skateboard and listening to Fleetwood Mac, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's the worst life choice in the world. And so

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Speaker 1: this dude records himself listening to Dreams, which is the

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Speaker 1: greatest song in the history of music. Just wants you

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Speaker 1: to know that Dreams by Fleetwood Mac greatest song in history.

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Speaker 1: It's been my favorite song since I was like seven

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Speaker 1: years old. And heard it for the first time on

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Speaker 1: Sunny one hundred in the back of my mom's Honda

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Speaker 1: in Columbus, Georgia. Sonny one hundred has sent gone to

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Speaker 1: another format of whence we will not speak but Dreams

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Speaker 1: by Fleetwood Mac Goat g a t goat and so

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Speaker 1: it's gone viral. Now here's what really aggravated me. It's

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Speaker 1: made me happy that a bunch of people have all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden started hearing the song for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Because let me tell you, let me tell you, let

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Speaker 1: me pause button right here. I don't have children. I'm

513
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Speaker 1: not one to criticize parents, except for this moment right now.

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Speaker 1: If you are a parent and your child of any

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Speaker 1: age is hearing Dreams by Fleetwood Mac for the first

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Speaker 1: time in a TikTok video with a skateboarding dude shugging

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Speaker 1: cranberry juice, you have failed your children as a parent.

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Speaker 1: They should have heard the greatness of Fleetwood Mac long

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Speaker 1: before TikTok ever came around. It's not too late, okay,

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00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: to my knowledge, they probably haven't heard Rhiannon or Go

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Speaker 1: your Own Way, or Gypsy or Sarah or Little Lies

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Speaker 1: the Chain. So Goldust Woman, let's go ahead and introduce

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Speaker 1: them to those songs as well. You can right the

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Speaker 1: wrongs of your parenting right now today. Just go pick

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Speaker 1: up rumors and just drop it off in their room. However,

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Speaker 1: let me get back to my point. What made me

527
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Speaker 1: mad the other day? Casey was I log onto Twitter

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Speaker 1: follow me there by the way at late kick, Josh

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Speaker 1: and I see the La Times has a story trending

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Speaker 1: and it says something to the degree of Fleetwood Mac's

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Speaker 1: Dreams gains popularity as it goes viral in a video. No, friends,

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Speaker 1: Dreams didn't gain popularity when it went viral in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: It gained popularity when it was released in the late seventies,

534
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Speaker 1: long before I was born. But hey, that matter. Three

535
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Speaker 1: year old four year old Josh could recognize greatness just

536
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Speaker 1: as much as I can today. That's when it gained popularity.

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Speaker 1: That's when it achieved greatness status the moment it was released.

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Speaker 1: All right, I think we've covered enough Fleetwood Mack in

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Speaker 1: this college football podcast. If that's possible, let's move it on.

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Speaker 1: Palmer is next up. Palmer sounds like he's a kind

541
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Speaker 1: of moral crossroads here. He says, how can I convince

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Speaker 1: my fellow Georgia fans and friends that Tennessee needs to

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00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: be taken seriously. All I hear from them is that

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Speaker 1: Tennessee sucks. They've only played bad teams and Prewitt is

545
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: far from having them competitive in the SEC East. I

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00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: personally think Tennessee has a better roster top to bottom

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Speaker 1: than Auburn. Let me work backwards here, Palmer, all right,

548
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: let me read the last sentence of this question kind

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Speaker 1: of submission I guess by Palmer, tell me if you

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Speaker 1: believe this. I'm talking to you, the listening audience. Now,

551
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: tell me if you believe what Palmer just said. I

552
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: personally think Tennessee has a better roster top to bottom

553
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: than Auburn. Do you believe that? A lot of you

554
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: are shaking your head no, And I understand why that

555
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: is not the perception out there? Is it? The perception

556
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: out there is Jeremy Prewett is still building, and whatever

557
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: Tennessee's going to be down the road, there's still long

558
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Speaker 1: ways away from it. Auburn is whatever they are, They've

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Speaker 1: been established, They've got several recruiting class is stacked on

560
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: top of each other. Now, so you know, Malson's been

561
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Speaker 1: a pretty consistent force there. They haven't won a national title,

562
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Speaker 1: but they've been good. They've beaten Alabama quite a few times,

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Speaker 1: and so they're normally competitive. Auburn's roster's got to be

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Speaker 1: better than Tennessee, right, And so they played Georgia last week,

565
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: they were only a touchdown underdog. And you don't go

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Speaker 1: into Athens as a single digit underdog if you don't

567
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: have a good roster, right, I agree with that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I pull up twenty four to seven sports dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I go to our team talent composite rating, which is

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Speaker 1: essentially just using former recruiting rankings to measure how much

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Speaker 1: talent you have on your roster. I don't think you'd

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Speaker 1: be surprised to learn Auburn is in the top fifteen.

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Speaker 1: They're number thirteen. I think you'd be shocked to know

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Speaker 1: that Tennessee is number fourteen. So we essentially perceive them

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Speaker 1: roster wise as being dead. Even with Auburn Palmer, I

576
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: think you're making a sound point here, and you're not alone.

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Speaker 1: I said as soon as that Auburn Georgia game ended,

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Speaker 1: I tweeted it out. I took a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: I don't really care because I believe it's true. I said,

580
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: Tennessee versus Georgia is going to be what you wanted.

581
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: Auburn versus Georgia to be. What you wanted is a

582
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: two way blood bath. You wanted wrecking balls smashing against

583
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Speaker 1: each other. You wanted dominant offensive and defensive line play,

584
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: and you got it one way in Georgia Auburn. I

585
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: think you'll get it two ways in Tennessee Georgia. I

586
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: think you're right, Palmer. I like Tennessee's roster more than

587
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: Auburn right now. I think Tennessee matches up with Georgia

588
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: better than Auburn. I'd be more worried about Tennessee. If

589
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: I were a Georgia fan, then well, of course it's

590
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: easy to say in retrospect, then I would be Auburn

591
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Speaker 1: and I would not have said that, probably before the

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Speaker 1: Auburn game. So that's really easy. That's hindsight quarterbacking. We

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Speaker 1: don't We're trying not to do that on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'll just say this, knowing what we know now. If

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Speaker 1: Tennessee played Auburn this week, I'd pick Tennessee to beat Auburn.

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00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think they're a better team

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00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: right now, That's what I'm saying. And they possess along

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00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: the lines of scrimmage, better personnel than Auburn has. I

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Speaker 1: like the head coach at Tennessee better than I do

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Speaker 1: at Auburn, and that one is still with shades of

601
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: gray on it because he hasn't achieved. I just think

602
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Speaker 1: Jeremy Prude. If I were to choose one from this

603
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: point moving forward, I think I'd get more out of Pruit.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So I like what they have

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Speaker 1: going on there. You're a fool if you're not taking

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Speaker 1: Tennessee seriously, because the last part of that what I

607
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: was gonna kind of piggyback on. If you don't believe

608
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Speaker 1: Palmer when he says it, and you don't believe me

609
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: when I say it. Kirby Smart step to the podium

610
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Speaker 1: this morning. I'm recording this late late Monday, early Tuesday.

611
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: He stepped to the podium Monday morning and said Tennessee's

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00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: rosters better than Auburn's, Tennessee's better along the lines of

613
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Speaker 1: scrimmage than Auburn. This is not just normal practice for

614
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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart. He doesn't just volunteer that stuff every week.

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00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: He's not one of those guys. When he says it,

616
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Speaker 1: he usually just means it. He's usually just being truthful,

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Speaker 1: and he is being truthful. He's right. Tennessee's better than

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Speaker 1: Auburn right now, and they're certainly better and probably match

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Speaker 1: up better with Georgia. And he knows that they had confidence.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Georgia was very confident when

621
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Speaker 1: they watched that Kentucky tape. I was listening to Rusty

622
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Speaker 1: Manziel talk about this, and it was so true. They

623
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: knew they could abuse Auburn at the offensive tackle positions.

624
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: They knew when they were on the field offensively, they

625
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: could run straight at Auburn. Kentucky did it. Georgia knew

626
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Speaker 1: they could do it. Do they think the same thing

627
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Speaker 1: about Tennessee. We'll see, all right. Cale mentioned him earlier.

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Speaker 1: It's time Cale. Cale is talking about SEC bias and

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Speaker 1: he is labeling yours truly a big fat stamp on

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Speaker 1: the forehead SEC bias. And I've got to defend my

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Speaker 1: good name and I'm gonna do it right after this.

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Speaker 1: We're back. Let's get right down to it, Cale, You

633
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Speaker 1: and me and the listening audience watching on Cale says,

634
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: why are your shows always so tilted to the SEC? Bro?

635
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Speaker 1: Can't you talk about more teams? Kale? Here's what you

636
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: just did. You just took the opportunity that you could

637
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Speaker 1: have used to submit a question about Arizona State, or

638
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: North Dakota State or Kansas I don't care, and instead

639
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: of actually submitting a non SEC question, you complained about

640
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: all the other folks who submit SEC questions. I don't

641
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: know if you've realized this, Kale. It sounds like you

642
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast and I appreciate you doing it.

643
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've realized this. This is not formatted.

644
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't write this. When you watch Late Kick Live.

645
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: I write those. I'm largely still listening to the audience,

646
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: but at least I come up with those. I produce

647
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: those I have EP roll on that I don't produce this, Kale.

648
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: The only thing I do for these Late Kick Extra

649
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: podcasts is two things. One of them is copy and

650
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: the other one is paste right into a word document

651
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: which is in front of me right now. I'm looking

652
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: at your name as we speak. C A. L. E. Kale. Kale,

653
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: you can go look brother, all these are public. You

654
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: can see them all. Go look in the podcast review section.

655
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: Some people lead the questions there, some people tweet me

656
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: the questions, some people email the questions. I guess those

657
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: aren't public. But all I'm doing is copying and paste

658
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: in them. I mean, we just had what do we have?

659
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: A wed had? Wisconstant question? We had big twelve questions.

660
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm just copying and paste and what you send, Cale,

661
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: How big a dereliction of duty would it be to me?

662
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: If I or to you? I guess the listening audience.

663
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: If I got fifteen Tennessee questions and I got no

664
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: USC questions, but I talked about USC proportionate to Tennessee,

665
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: how stupid would that be? Cale? If you ran a podcast,

666
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, and eighty five percent of

667
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: the questions submitted were SEC related, how would you balance

668
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: the time on your podcast? Because I'm telling you right now,

669
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: if I open this inbox for the Thursday edition, because

670
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: we do two of these a week, So if I

671
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: get one hundred pack twelve questions and no SEC questions

672
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: for the Thursday Late Kick extra, we're headed west without provocation,

673
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: We're headed west. I couldn't care less. I watch all

674
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: college football, Kale, I watch it all. I'm perfectly comfortable

675
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: talking about everything. But here's what I'm not dumb enough

676
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: to do. I'm not dumb enough to format the show

677
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: for me. I'm not the audience. I format this show

678
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: for you. You are the audience. If I format it

679
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: for me, that's an audience of one, and that really

680
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: doesn't go very far. I format it for you, and

681
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: it's very simple. You write the show for me. I

682
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: just copy and paste. Like I said, so, Cale, the

683
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: reason there's so much SEC on here is because you

684
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: want SEC on here, simple as that. Brother, you had

685
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: your opportunity, and you have another opportunity. Every single show

686
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: I do to get me off the SEC, like we

687
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: did multiple times already in this podcast. As it turns out,

688
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: Michael's next Cale, You're gonna love this one. We're talking

689
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: about where are my drums? I don't have a drum roll.

690
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: That's it. I never was able to do the role.

691
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: The tongue thing anyway, Cale, we're talking about the SEC.

692
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: Turn that volume up to eleven. Brother Michael says, I've

693
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: got to ask a Tennessee question before I lose the

694
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: ability to let's say, upset Georgia or maybe Florida. And

695
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: even if we lose to Alabama, let's just say we're

696
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: sitting eight and two, both losses coming to likely top

697
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: five teams. Are we sitting out of the SEC championship game?

698
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: And if we are, are we still in the talks

699
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: for the playoff? Michael, I cannot in good faith answer

700
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: this question yet, so many hypotheticals, so many unknowns, and

701
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: it's a Tennessee playoff question. And Michael, as much as

702
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it for you guys, it's a

703
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: bridge too far as we sit here on October sixth.

704
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: So there's the brake pedal right down there. Let's pump

705
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: it and let's focus on Athens, GA Saturday. All right,

706
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: it's for the best, Michael, it's for the best. VANDN

707
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: is next, VANDUN asks, could you possibly talk about the

708
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: significance of DeMarcus Bowman transferring from Clemson to Florida on

709
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: the next Late Kick Live? Well, VANDAM is probably not

710
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: a broad enough topic for me to hit on there,

711
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: but I will hit on it here. This is interesting,

712
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: you know, this is it's not a crack in the

713
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: near of Clemson or anything like that. But it is significant.

714
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: This was a big time player that they got from

715
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: the state of Florida, and now he is transferring back

716
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: to Florida. Is not doing it right this second, I

717
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: don't think. I think at the last update, he's going

718
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: to be there in the spring. So it's not like

719
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna play Saturday against A and M or anything

720
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: like that. But he also is not playing against Miami

721
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: for Clemson Saturday. So this is a guy who's ultra talented.

722
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: He had not immediately cracked the depth chart, and for

723
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: whatever reason he's out of there. It's good because I

724
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: don't care how you acquire talent, just get the talent.

725
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: Brenton Kox right now is a big contributor for Florida.

726
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: They didn't sign him out of high school. He went

727
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: to Georgia. You know, so Derreck King. Since Clemson's playing

728
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: Miami Saturday, you remember when he committed to Miami out

729
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: of high school. I don't. I remember when he transferred

730
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: from Houston. This is the way of the world, man,

731
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: You get that talent however you can. And what is

732
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: the one knock, well maybe the one of a few

733
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: knocks that you've had on the Florida coaching staff. What

734
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: is it recruiting? They haven't been able to recruit quite

735
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: at an elite level. Okay, well, maybe there's more than

736
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: one way to get elite talent on your roster. Just

737
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: do it by any means necessary. Florida's a Nike school,

738
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: Just do it, author Next up is South Carolina at

739
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: a crossroads as a football program. Two losses in games

740
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: that felt like, with better coaching, we could be one

741
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: and one in Arthur, yes, they are. I felt like

742
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: they were at a crossroads before the season even started,

743
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: because it was hard for me to envision this season.

744
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: It was really hard for me to envision it approaching

745
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: five hundred, certainly hard for me to envision anything more,

746
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: and for a fan base whose opinion of their coaching

747
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: staff was already on shaky ground at best. I didn't

748
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: know what that was going to bring, and I certainly

749
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: don't know what the end of this season is going

750
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: to bring. You're right. I think you're right. And the

751
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: bad part is, you know, it would be reasonable if

752
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: Muschamp was working in good faith on several good years

753
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: and he had just replaced his coordinator in the middle

754
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: of a pandemic, people would be willing to give it

755
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: some rope. I don't think they're willing to right now.

756
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: So yes, they're absolutely at a crossroads. Next up is Hayden.

757
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm an Auburn fan and I'm mad, says Hayden. Gus

758
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: has been here seven years and there's no excuse to

759
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: be manhandled like we were Saturday. What do you think

760
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: about the situation? Do you see a way Auburn can

761
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: improve offensively with the current cats we have up front? No,

762
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't, Hayden. I've got to be honest with you.

763
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: They can improve enough to win some games in conference.

764
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: But if they let's say they were to somehow play

765
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: Georgia again later in the year SEC championship game, whatever,

766
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: if the same players are on the field, did you

767
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: get the sense when you were watching that game the

768
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: other night, if they played that game ten times, did

769
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: you get the sinse Auburn would ever win any of those?

770
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: It's there was so little variants in the game. If

771
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: it were a game where you had teams like Mississippi

772
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: State playing where they throw the ball so much and

773
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: so you could have tip passes, you could have fumbles,

774
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: you could have so many weird bounces of the happened

775
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: that one game to the next, you could have wild

776
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: swings in the final score. Well, when all you're doing

777
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: is you're just taking a sledgehammer and just beating people

778
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: to death with it, and they can't do anything about it.

779
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: They can't stop it, like their arms are handcuffed. In

780
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: other words, what's the variance? How would that be different

781
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: one game to the next. I don't think it would.

782
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: I just don't think Auburn has the horses. They don't.

783
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: They got leaned on, man, they really, they got so

784
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: thoroughly bludgeoned they didn't want any more of that. In fact,

785
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: it was long before that fourth quarter was over. I'm

786
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: not saying they quit. I'm just saying they knew what

787
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: was happening. You don't think those players knew what was happening.

788
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: That was demoralizing, It was bad. I can understand how

789
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: you guys feel. It was bad watching that, and I'm

790
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: just sitting there neutrally observing that's bad. No, Hayden, I

791
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: think you got what you got right now. They didn't

792
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: set the world on fire against Kentucky in Week one either,

793
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: and so they've got big games coming up. I mean,

794
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: they've still got several of them. They got to play Tennessee.

795
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: Tennessee can do the exact same same thing to you

796
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: Georgie did the other day. The Tennessee right now, I

797
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: think they've got a better offensive line than Georgia's. And

798
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: George's is good. You saw what George's was able to

799
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: do to you. Tennessee may have a better one than that.

800
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: Alabama's got a better one than both of them. They

801
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: are brutal. They're in for a brutal stretch. Hayden, I

802
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: agree with you. Here's what you want to do. If

803
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: you want to do something fascinating and you want to

804
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: talk about inexcusable, which is the word you used, and

805
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: I agree, Go look at the starting five for Auburn

806
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, and then look up what they

807
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: were in high school. Most of them weren't even offensive linemen.

808
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: The ones who were were very lightly recruited. And you

809
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: got to ask yourself, this is not the second year

810
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: in and Gus Malson's tenure. He's been there since two

811
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: thy thirteen, now seven or eight years, whatever it is.

812
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: And that's the unit you're told. You're sending that unit

813
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: out there and expecting to contend for an SEC championship. Wow,

814
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: all right, Coleman's gonna wrap us up here. Coleman says, Josh,

815
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: do you believe the twenty seventeen season still looms over

816
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: the Georgia program. The success Georgia had that season seems

817
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: to define the expectation for Georgia the last couple of seasons.

818
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: Should expectations be tempered? Absolutely not, Coleman, absolutely not. I

819
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: don't care if twenty seventeen didn't happen. What if they

820
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: went eight and four that year? What does Georgia have.

821
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: They've got, according to our numbers, the most talented roster

822
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: in America. What should the expectation be? If the expectation

823
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: at Alabama is championship and Clemson in Ohio state, why

824
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: in the world should you take a back seat in

825
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: the expectation department. I don't care that you haven't done

826
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: it since nineteen eight. He couldn't care less. That has

827
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: nothing to do with what you're capable of from this

828
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: point moving forward, Clemson, you remember when Clemson in twenty

829
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: fifteen they faced Alabama in a national championship and Dama

830
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: had already won three of them under Saban and Clemson

831
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: hadn't won one and who knows how long. And I

832
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: remember people making predictions on that game saying, well, I'm

833
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: gonna pick Alabama because they've they've just done it. Look

834
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: how many championships they have. I didn't care. I didn't care.

835
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: By the way, Clemson the very next year they beat Alabama,

836
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they had won a championship. You

837
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: don't win them, you don't have them until you win them.

838
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the whole point. That's not whatever stop Clemson.

839
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: What stopped Clemson was not having the right pieces in place,

840
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: not having the right infrastructure in place. Well, once you

841
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: get all that, all of a sudden, those barriers that

842
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: looked insurmountable, they're not insurmountable everymore, and you win, and

843
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: Georgia has it in place. Now that you have one

844
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: final hurdle, you've won the SEC you've been in the playoffs,

845
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: you've won a semi final, you've gone to a national

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Speaker 1: championship game. There's only one hurdle left. It's Crimson in nature.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna play them in under two weeks, and you

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Speaker 1: may get them again in Atlanta. Who knows, you may

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Speaker 1: see him three times this year. Wouldn't that be fascinating.

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Speaker 1: But Coleman expectation is what the sport's all about. Man,

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Speaker 1: This is not the NFL. It's not built on a

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Speaker 1: foundation of parody. You don't get punished for your success,

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Speaker 1: You get rewarded for it. You are, the more recruits

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Speaker 1: want to come play for you, the better you are,

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Speaker 1: the more money they pump into your facilities. The better

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Speaker 1: you are, the more the higher paid coaches want to

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Speaker 1: come there, and you can afford to pay them. Everything's

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Speaker 1: tilted towards Georgia and about ten or fifteen other teams

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Speaker 1: in this sport. If they've got their you know what together,

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Speaker 1: George's got it together, they got to win a national championship,

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Speaker 1: their expectations should be no lower than the very best

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Speaker 1: at Georgia. All right, if you haven't already, subscribe everywhere

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