1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West and Hodkoitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: you here from our studios at lambeau Field, Wes our 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: second draft recap show. And uh, you put together an 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: interesting little piece for Packers dot Com the other day 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: where you sort of dug out through whether it was 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: through the interviews over draft weekend or the the bio 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: information that we got on the players. But one extra 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: interesting little thing about each of the Packers eleven draft 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: picks that didn't quite work into our coverage over the weekend. 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: So if if you want to learn a little bit 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: more about these guys, check that out on Packers dot com. 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, of those of those various of the those 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: various items, what one or ones stood out to you? 16 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: So first off, the my main idea for doing this, 17 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: we're always just looking for stuff to get us through 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: the week before the rookie orientation camp. And my biggest 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: problemt for this was I thought the scouts last week 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: and were phenomenal. Yeah, everybody that talked had something interesting 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: to say. But because of the calamity and chaos of 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: the draft. You and I only get to write so 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: much about it. You did an excellent job of incorporating 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: John Eric Sullivan's voice and your final recap story. I 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: thought John Eric had probably one of the best press 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: conferences of the entire weekend. 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: That was, as I mentioned in Insider Inbox, actually that 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: was my favorite press conference, no offense to anybody else. 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: That was my favorite press conference of the entire weekend 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: was listening to John Eric kind of dig into the 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: packers process a little bit and really talk about what 32 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: they're looking for and with regard to these prospects. So yeah, 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: I tried to incorporate those comments in my wrap up story. 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: And if you want to check out the video of 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: that press conference, by all means, it's on the website 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: as well. 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: And for me, I'm not John Eric's agent, but I 38 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: would take that fourteen minute press conference and I would 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: show it to every NFL team that is looking for 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: a general manager one year from now. I thought it 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: was very presidential in that way, or general manor jural 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: isheal in that way. 43 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: Be that as it may. 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: You're asking me about the top eleven things to know 45 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: about these eleven prospects the two things that I enjoyed 46 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: the most. This wasn't anything like an epiphany, but the 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: Packers drafted yet another Georgia Bulldog. Digging into that a 48 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: little bit with Javon Ballard coming in. That's a fourth 49 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 2: time in four drafts the Packers have drafted for Georgia Bulldogs, 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: obviously doubling up two years ago with DeVante White and 51 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: kway Walker prior to selecting Eric Stokes, So the Packers 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: had actually selected the last time they had four Bulldogs 53 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: that they got through the draft, it had been I 54 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: believe fifty eight years. It had taken as far as 55 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: how many times they drafted, including jerryus Wynn in two 56 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: thousand and nine. 57 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, one, I think. 58 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: That show is just where Kirby Smart has taken this 59 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: program and the level that he's put it on. You know, 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: Mark Rick was there. They've obviously had success in the past, 61 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 2: but I mean this, we are talking about one of 62 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: the top programs in the country now and they're getting 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: some of the top recruits and they're developing them. Ballard, 64 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: you know, is hopefully going to be the next one 65 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: of that. In the fourth round, Evan Williams. I had 66 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: to laugh. There was nowhere to put it in our coverage. Yeah, 67 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: on Saturday. But ten years after the Green Bay Packers 68 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: draft Richard Rodgers, whose father and namesake was involved in 69 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: the play the cal Stanford game. They go and take 70 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: Evan Williams on the field, the band is on the field. 71 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: They take Evan Williams, whose father was also on the field. 72 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: For ket It's incredible, It's it's amazing. I and we 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: were talking about this before before we turn the cameras on. 74 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, nineteen eighty two cal versus Stanford, 75 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: the game that is the big rivalry in the Bay 76 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Area in northern California. And I mean in this day 77 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: and age of instant replay, that that play would have 78 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: that play would have meant absolutely nothing for the I'm 79 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: sure many of you have seen it, if not all 80 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: of you, there are there's you know, the one guy's 81 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: knees hit the ground before he laterals the ball, and then. 82 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: This is this is the this is this is the part. 83 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: I love though when you look back at it, because 84 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: because these are the things, these are the things that 85 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: are now that are now caught by instant replay, that 86 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: our eyes don't necessarily catch in the moment, and it's 87 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: it's when when somebody is running, somebody is running full 88 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: speed and they lateral the ball. It's an optical illusion 89 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: to us that the ball is not moving forward, but 90 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: it actually is because if you look at you know, 91 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: if somebody is running forward and then they lateral the ball, 92 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: the ball is going to end up further down the 93 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: field than where the player released it. So technically that's 94 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: a forward lateral and it would be illegal on a 95 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: on a kickoff return, right, But in the moment, in 96 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: the moment, it looks legit, right, It looked it looks like, 97 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: oh no, he didn't throw it, he didn't throw it forward. 98 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: So but there there are a couple of those, like 99 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: in the cal Stanford play and everything. But uh yeah, 100 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: I I I about fell out of my chair when 101 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: Evan Williams said, you know when when he was asked, 102 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: was it Matt Schneidman from the Athletic who asked him 103 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: about about his dad being being involved in the play 104 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: the the kickoff return in the cal Stanford game with 105 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: the trombone player getting run over. 106 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: This is the quote I love too once or twice 107 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: a month where we're pulling it up, or it's on 108 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: TV somewhere. Yeah, like you can't even escape it either. 109 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's omnipresent. 110 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it's it's there, it's there forever. Well, another 111 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: thing I wanted to I wanted to get your thoughts 112 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: on because obviously on our on our last show, we 113 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: talked about all these all these packer picks and all 114 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: the implications and how the packers went about putting together 115 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: this collection of rookies, but we didn't talk much at 116 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: all about what was going on in the rest of 117 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: the NFC North. And uh, and this is this is 118 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: a draft that, for one reason or another, is going 119 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: to be remembered as far as the NFC North is concerned, 120 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: because two of the four teams, the Bears and the Vikings, 121 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: both drafted their quarterbacks of the future, with the Bears 122 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: taking Caleb Williams again the on. 123 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: The worst kept Secret. 124 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: No, we'll I'll let you talk about you, Bears punter, 125 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: if you want to later, the Bears taking Caleb Williams 126 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: number one overall, and then the Vikings sweating things out 127 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: at the eleventh pick and then ultimately moving up one 128 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: spot to into the number ten spot to get JJ 129 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: McCarthy because they were they weren't sure. There was obviously 130 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 1: the possibility that the Broncos or the Raiders might trade 131 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: up into the number ten spot with was it the Jets? Yep, 132 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: the Jets had the tenth spot. 133 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: Well, according to Sean Payton, he was involved in like 134 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: eighteen trades that day. 135 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, absolutely, there's all kinds of things like they 136 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: want to bone X. But it was interesting because a 137 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: lot of people ask the question, well, what like, why 138 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: would they the Jets aren't going to take a quarterback. 139 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: Why are the Vikings trading up one spot that the 140 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: Jets have Aaron Rodgers they're not going to take a quarterback. Well, 141 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: it's because they don't know if somebody else might jump 142 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: in front of them and trade for that number ten 143 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: pick and get who many thought was really the last 144 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: of the first round quarterbacks in JJ McCarthy or certainly 145 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: the guy that the Vikings wanted, I think after Drake 146 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: May was taken by the Patriots, when the Patriots wouldn't 147 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: trade out of the number three spot, Elliott Wolf sticking 148 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: at three and taking May from North Carolina. Just your 149 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: thoughts on kind of how the top of that first 150 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: round unfolded with all the quarterbacks, and then not no 151 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: trade was made until the tenth spot when we were 152 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: discussing the previous week. You know, are the Pagers going 153 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: to trade at three, the Cardinal's going to trade at four, 154 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: the Charger's going to trade at five. Everybody sat and 155 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: picked and then the other interesting part of that is 156 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: the Giants sitting at number six did not take a quarterback. 157 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: They ended up going with a wide receiver. 158 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: They did. 159 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: And first and foremost, I don't do this just because 160 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: of the Packer connections. I do this because I thought 161 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: he did a wail of a job in his first 162 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: NFL draft in the cap Birds seat there and Elliott 163 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: wolf dode New England need to switch up their offense. 164 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: They go their first five picks, they go on the 165 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball. It starts with Drake May. 166 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: Not that you want stuff leaking out. I know how 167 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: NFL franchisees feel about that, but I actually was really 168 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: I thought that made the Patriots look great in terms 169 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: of what Minnesota was trying to give up to move there. 170 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: And it's showing just how dedicated Elliott was to Drake May. 171 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: And this being the next guy. 172 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he absolutely had. He absolutely was. Kings Ray is 173 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: convinced that that Drake May has got to be their guy, 174 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: because if the reports that were out there are true, 175 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: Elliott Wolf passed up some very very attractive trades to 176 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: trade out of the number three spot and he did 177 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: not want to do it, which shows you how he 178 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: feels about Drake May. 179 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: As the Patriots, So the Chicago Bears obviously go with 180 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. They go with the receiver at nine. And 181 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: now you wait and see, I don't really like twitter 182 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: go figure. I know Bear fans are talking about the 183 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: New Era and everything like that. We've heard that a 184 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: lot over the last ten years. Maybe Williams is the 185 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: guy everybody thought he was, but there's gonna be that 186 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: pressure on him now and seeing how he handles that, 187 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 2: it's gonna be very interesting. The Packers just so happened 188 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: to draft his running back in Marshawn Lloyd com into 189 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: Green Bay. He had very complimentary things to say about 190 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: him as well. But I don't think there's been a 191 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: more celebrated, decorated number one overall pick. I mean, this 192 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: guy put him up there against Trevor Lawrence and Andrew 193 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: luck in terms of guys that are just expected to 194 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: come in and be MVP type players. The Bears have 195 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: everything stake to him. They did not pick very much 196 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: in this draft. They you know, everyone talks about all 197 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: the additions they made free agency and through trades. In 198 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: that well, they had to they didn't have the equity 199 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: to be able to do that through the drafts. 200 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: So and they even gave up a future draft pick 201 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: to get back into this draft to take an additional player. 202 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Because after the first round when they took Williams at 203 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: number one, they took their wide receiver rome a Doonzy 204 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: from Washington at number nine. The Bears only had two 205 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: other picks in the entire draft, and they sacrificed to 206 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: pick next year to get another player for this year. 207 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: If the cupboards bear, you got to put some groceries 208 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: in it, right too. So, I mean that's what they 209 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: did Minnesota there. I mean, I don't want to say 210 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: you're all in, but this is it. This is the move. 211 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 2: This was the draft where they made some big moves. 212 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: And and certainly when you look at I know Dallas 213 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: Turner is I think he's already the favorite for defensive Player. 214 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: Of the year, defensive rookie Rookie of the Year. 215 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: Excuse me, yes, defensive rookie of the Year. So they 216 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: still felt like they helped their defense. But the JJ 217 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: McCarthy move was one I told you going into the draft. 218 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: I mean not that I knew this, everybody knew this. 219 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: The Vikings had to draft a quarterback. Yeah, you had 220 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: to get one. And with where they were sitting, you 221 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: were in that that you know, is Pennex going to 222 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: be there? 223 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: Is it McCarthy? Is McCarthy going to go higher? Bo Nix? 224 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: I think everybody kind of assumed would be in that range. 225 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: But is he the guy? And if you're taking six 226 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the top twelve, how good do you feel 227 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: about the six guy actually being the best of the bunch? 228 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: Maybe not great? Yeah, JJ McCarthy ends up being the guy. 229 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: They have Sam Darnold. That doesn't mean he has to 230 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: play right away, but so much is stake to this 231 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: change at quarterback. And I'm not trying to put together 232 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: an ad campaign for how the Packers develop quarterbacks in 233 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: contrast to what has been the situation in Minnesota now 234 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: for many years. 235 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: But when you. 236 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: Don't have a quarterback, it makes the job a lot 237 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: more difficult, and they finally made the decision. You know what, 238 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: we paid Kirk Cousins a lot of money for a 239 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: lot of years. He got them to a certain point, 240 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: but they couldn't get past that point. So now we're 241 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: going to kind of try to rebuild while still competing. 242 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: And the one danger I feel is there for the 243 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: Vikings is the number one overall pick. The guy that 244 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: was just talking about how celebrated he's been in Kaeleb 245 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 2: Williams goes to a division team, another division team was 246 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship game, and then you have the 247 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers, who were the hottest team in football 248 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: during the final month of the season. Yeah, the Vikings 249 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: don't have a lot of room there to pace themselves. 250 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: They kind of have to catch up if they're going 251 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: to stay in this thing. And this was their move. 252 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: Well, and what's interesting to me, and I mean, who 253 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: knows whether JJ McCarthy is ultimately going to be the 254 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: guy or not. But what's interesting to me is how 255 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: we keep hearing out of Minnesota that that they're going 256 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: to be patient, they're going to you know, they're going 257 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: to bring JJ McCarthy along slowly, et cetera, et cetera. Well, 258 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: that's all fine and good to say right now. But 259 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: the guy you have starting at quarterback presumably week one, 260 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: will be Sam Donald, who has I believe it's like 261 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: a twenty something and thirty seven record as a starting 262 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. If you do start out with 263 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, because you're gonna bring JJ McCarthy along slowly 264 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: and not put all this pressure on him, well, then 265 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: what happens when you lose a few games? 266 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: It's twenty one and thirty five, by the way. 267 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: Twenty one and thirty five, Thank you, twenty one and 268 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: thirty five as a starting quarterback. You start losing some games, 269 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: you know, I mean the fans pay good money to 270 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: pay to buy the tickets and to come out and 271 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: support the team. And you know, if the Vikings do 272 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: start out losing some games, there's going to be a 273 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: lot of pressure to put JJ McCarthy in there and 274 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: for the Vikings to for the Vikings to show their 275 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: fans what they have. Are they going to resist that? 276 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean, what is what will be the decision making 277 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: process down the line? Now, maybe Sam Darnold, you know, 278 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: maybe this is the reclamation of his career. We saw 279 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: it with Gino Smith in Seattle. You can't rule it out. 280 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: Not going to rule it out, but the Vikings are 281 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: the Vikings are potentially going to be in a really 282 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: tough spot here. 283 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 2: The pressure for the fans is I'm with you on that. 284 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: That is one hundred percent correct. But you've also the 285 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: strength of your football team right now as your receiving corps. 286 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: Yep, you have arguably the best. 287 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: Receiver in the game right now, and justin Jefferson Jordan 288 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: Addison showed a lot of nice things last year as well. 289 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: You need a guy that's gonna be able to feed 290 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: those players Kirk Cousins. People can talk about primetime Kirk, 291 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: you know, or are you want to talk about the 292 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: playoff Kirk. But he got the ball out into those 293 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: guys hands. 294 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: He allowed them to make plays. 295 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: That's the biggest switch they're going with because when I 296 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: was talking about this, Minnesota's almost kind of been I mean, 297 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: you heard that stat about how few first round quarterbacks 298 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: they've ever drafted. You know, they hit on Dante Culpepper, 299 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: but then injuries became an issue for him, and then 300 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: after that it was just sort of plug and play 301 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: guys other than Christian Ponder. 302 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they drafted. They drafted Christian Ponder with a first 303 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: round pick. I believe he was twelfth overall. But quite frankly, 304 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: the only year they did anything with Christian Ponder was 305 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: when Adrian Peterson was the league MVP with a two 306 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: thousand yard rushing season in twenty and twelve. Yep, that 307 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: was the only year with Christian Ponder that they went anywhere. 308 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: So you're right, there's been there. There's been this interesting 309 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: history with Minnesota and how they've gone about it. 310 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this where it's going to get really interesting 311 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: this division. I love what Detroit did again. I thought 312 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: they had some really savvy picks in this thing. They 313 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: moved around, they helped their defense some again, Brad Holmes, 314 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: John Dorsey, I tipped my cap to them. I felt 315 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: like as soon as John came on board there too. 316 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: And obviously Brad's track record speaks for itself. They've done it. 317 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: It's not a mystery why they were in the NFC 318 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: Championship game. They drafted really, really well these last few years, 319 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: beginning in twenty twenty one with am and Ross Saint 320 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: Brown in the fourth round. Brian Branch gets involved it 321 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: looks like Aiden Hutchinson, it's going to be a player. 322 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: So the competition in the North I think is going 323 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: to be really strong this year. 324 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: Now. 325 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: Fortunately for everybody, there's seven playoff spots now in the NFC. 326 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: If you want to get down this party, there are 327 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: tickets to go. But certainly for the Packers, for Minnesota, 328 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: for all these teams, you have to put yourself in 329 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: a position to compete, neutralize the other team's strengths and 330 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: see where it takes you. 331 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, what'd you think of what'd you think of Detroit's 332 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: move essentially using two because they traded up to get 333 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: the cornerback from Alabama Terian Arnold? 334 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, good. 335 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: The one thing that you knew and I talked about 336 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: it afterwards, between him and and Rakestraw. They got two 337 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: of the top corners in the draft, but also two 338 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: of the guys that tested. 339 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: Slower when you're looking at more of those forty times. 340 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: So if that's the identity of their defense, if they're 341 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: going to go press man and play physical, which I 342 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: mean to a certain extent, that is what you're expecting. 343 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: That that's Dan Campbell, that's. 344 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: Dan Campbell, that you know, that's you know, why is 345 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: his name escaping right now? 346 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: The defensive coordinator over there, Aaron Glenn. 347 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, Aaron Glenn, Right, yes, Aaron gle defensive backs 348 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: smash mouth in your face. When they've turned this corner 349 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: with their personnel, that's the identity they've tried to kept 350 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: for really the last two and a half years now. 351 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it in a lot of ways, 352 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: it made sense for them. I felt like offensively, they've 353 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: built out that offensive line so well, they've hit on 354 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: their draft picks at the skill positions. I mean, you 355 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: would not if you bring back if Justin wants to 356 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: bring up the old clips of you know, our pre 357 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: draft stuff las year. I wos not sold on Sam Laporta. 358 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: I thought he was a little too small. I knew 359 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: the history there with Iowa tight ends, but you had 360 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: all these really big, you know, the six foot six, 361 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: six foot five guys. I was saying, Sam Laporta was 362 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: as good as anyone in that draft last year and 363 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: made a huge difference from there in that offense. 364 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 3: So it'll be. 365 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: Fascinating to watch all this develops for Detroit. But this 366 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: was as much as we talk about this being an 367 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: important draft for the Packers because you've had two really 368 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: good ones back to back and you're trying to put 369 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 2: that third one together to make a Super Bowl run. 370 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: The Lions are sitting in the same seat. 371 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. One last thought I want to get from you 372 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: with regard to the first round of the draft, because 373 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: a lot of people are talking about it. 374 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 2: As I remember, wasn't a cute by the way, when 375 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: I said that Michael Pennix would go in the first 376 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: round or not they went at eight. 377 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: Sorry to interrupt, No. 378 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what I was going to bring up, 379 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: because that is that is the move where people are 380 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: talking about. Okay, you know the sort of the Packers 381 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: blueprint for quarterback succession. Right. The Falcons went out. Things 382 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: didn't work out with Desmond Ritter, who they drafted a 383 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: couple of years back in the third round. They the 384 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: Falcons had been using their first round picks. They had 385 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: three consecutive years of top ten picks, and they took 386 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: a tight end, a wide receiver, on a running back. 387 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: They did not draft a quarterback. They did not draft 388 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: a premium position. They didn't go left tackle or edge 389 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: rusher or or corner. They went with the They went 390 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: with the flashy offensive players. But then with a third 391 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: round quarterback, it didn't happen. It didn't get done. So 392 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: they went out spent a bunch of money to get 393 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Perhaps broke some rules along the way, but 394 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: we'll find out. We'll find out about that with when 395 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: the league's tampering investigation is complete, which apparently it's not yet. 396 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: But they go out and sign Kirk Cousins to a 397 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: whole bunch of money. They guarantee him somewhere in the 398 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: neighborhood of one hundred million dollars. But then they have 399 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: another top ten pick this year and they use it 400 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: on a quarterback in Michael Penis Junior from Washington, with 401 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: the idea that he will sit I think for a 402 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: minimum of three years, but at least a minimum of 403 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: two years. He will sit behind Kirk Cousins, watch and learn, 404 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: and then eventually get the keys to the car. I mean, 405 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: the Falcons have a reasonable out cap wise on cousins 406 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: contract after three years. They sign him to a four 407 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: year deal. They have a reasonable out after three years. 408 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: But I think I think that it's gonna have to 409 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: go those three years before you turn it over to Pennix. 410 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: Otherwise you're putting yourself in salary cap jail when you're 411 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: trying to turn things over to a new quarterback, and 412 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: that just doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. 413 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: And my answers in several different ways. The first one 414 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 2: is to all the haters out there that were talking about, well, 415 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: why didn't they go defense, because the Falcons need to 416 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: figure out their offense first before we can even Yeah, okay, 417 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: their defense isn't great. Fine, their offense wasn't great. 418 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 419 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: And the only part that I laugh at that I 420 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: actually giggled when I saw, you know, Pennix come off 421 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: the board at eight, was for all that time they 422 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: didn't give Arthur Smith a single quarterback. 423 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, they fire. 424 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 2: Him, and then they spend all this money on Kirk 425 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: and they used the eighth overall pick on Pennix. That 426 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: was pretty humorous to me. Not to say that they 427 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: would have drafted another one and it would have worked out, 428 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: but it was just funny that they never actually had 429 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: that guy. They were trying to roll with a third 430 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: round you know, third or former third round pick. So 431 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: that being said, I actually really like the pick. I 432 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: think that this is the if you have an administration 433 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: and you have an owner that can be understanding and 434 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: see a little bit past just what's directly in front 435 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 2: of them and what you could potentially do. This was 436 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 2: the move for the Falcons because, with all due respect 437 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: to Kirk Cousins, he has only gotten to a certain 438 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: point in his NFL career as a starting quarterback. He's 439 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: not any younger, and he's coming off an Achilles tear. 440 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: Made total sense that they did whatever they had to 441 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: do to sign him. But Pennix is a guy that 442 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: you've heard so many people talk about his arm strength, 443 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: being generational, talking like you know, this is a guy 444 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: that you know, maybe Matthew Stafford esque type strength and 445 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: his ability to deliver a football if you can give 446 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: that coaching staff time to bring him along and not 447 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: throw him into the fire like we've done so often. 448 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: Mike Yes, c J. 449 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 2: Stroud last year was an exciting football player, and he 450 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: looks like he's going to be a real playmaker for 451 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: years to come. I can't see any scenario in which 452 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: Bryce Young benefited from what happened last year. 453 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 3: Net Line exactly. 454 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's it's you throw, you throw these 455 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: young guys into the fire right away. Sometimes you get 456 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, a Joe Burrow or a C. J. Stroud, 457 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: and sometimes you get Bryce Young. I mean, and it's 458 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: not it's not necessarily about the guy. It's about it's 459 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: about the environment. It's about the situation. It's about the 460 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: status of the rest of the team as a whole. 461 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy always used to say, it's not about whether 462 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: a young quarterback is ready to play, it's about whether 463 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: the team is ready for the young quarterback to play. 464 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: And so some of these guys just get thrown into 465 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: situations that that that are really really difficult, and the 466 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: Falcons are going to do their best. The Vikings, it 467 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: sounds like, are going to try that as well. The 468 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: Falcons are going to do their best to avoid that. 469 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: And the difference between the two situations is the Falcons 470 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: spent a lot of money on a veteran quarterback who 471 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: has taken teams to the playoffs before, as opposed to 472 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: the Vikings, who, you know, their guy right now is 473 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: a guy who hasn't won in the NFL. 474 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you're absolutely right, but I really thought you're 475 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: gonna go with the difference is is the Falcons paid 476 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 2: kirk Cousins and the Vikings did not pay kirk Cousins. 477 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, after all that, I mean. 478 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: That's certainly that's certainly true as well. 479 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 2: But here's the thing, and this is where this would 480 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: be my last point on this, and this is the 481 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: thing I wanted to hit on the most. Where the 482 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers have outdone the rest of the National 483 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: Football League is they've caught the league sleeping on quarterbacks 484 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: at the right time. They caught the NFL sleeping on 485 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in two thousand and five, they caught the 486 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: league sleeping on Jordan Love in twenty twenty. You are 487 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: not going to be able to find franchise quarterbacks every 488 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: year past that number ten fifteen spot. There's just teams 489 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: are moving up, they're trying to make things happen. The Packers' 490 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: ability to do that, I don't when people try to 491 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: make this comparison, Well, they spent so high to get Pennix, Yeah, 492 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: because that's normally what teams. 493 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 3: Happen exactly, that is what you have to do. 494 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: And that was part of when the Falcons head coach 495 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: and general manager were answering questions about the Pennix pick. 496 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: They were saying, hey, we spent a bunch of money 497 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: on Kirk Cousins, but we know we're going to need 498 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: a quarterback down the line. We're not expecting to end 499 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: up with a top ten pick with Kirk Cousins as 500 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: our quarterback going to be back, so right, you're going 501 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: to be further back in the first round. So if 502 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: we're looking at the quarterback of the future, we have 503 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: to get him now while we have the high pick, 504 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: because we're planning to be picking in the twenties or 505 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: later because of what we're paying Kirk Cousins to do 506 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: for the franchise. 507 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: And at the last point I'll make about that twenty 508 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 2: twenty draft, people always say, well, you know T Higgins 509 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: was still available, Patrick Queen was still available, but Denzel 510 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: Mims was also still available. I took Ross Blacklock in 511 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: one of my mock drafts that year. He ended up 512 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: going at forty and he's out of the league at 513 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: twenty five. Right, You never know. The Packers knew they 514 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 2: had some thing there with Jordan Love. There was a 515 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: good scouting report on him. We listened to Sam Seal 516 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: last weekend talking about, you know, he had a hand 517 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: and looking at a love as well when you feel 518 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: good about guys, when we talk about best player available 519 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: and all that stuff, and it's not always true in 520 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: terms of, you know, if you're not gonna Packers were 521 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: not going to draft a quarterback this year. They didn't 522 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: need to in the first round or second round. But 523 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: the truth is when you build that board, as you 524 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: talked about our last show, you bake it into the 525 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: cake and you see what's all available to you. I 526 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 2: think that's the most exciting thing. And if I'm an 527 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons fan, I don't care about the fact that 528 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: Cousins was signed and Pennix was drafted at number eight. 529 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 2: I care about the fact that finally I feel like 530 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: I have a quarterback. 531 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: I have multiple quarterbacks, and. 532 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: There's a reason to believe again because Mike. I think 533 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: Atlanta was the number one example of if you don't 534 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: have a guy, whether it was trying to bring in 535 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota or doing the Desmond Ritter experiment or all 536 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 2: this thing, all these different things they've done since Matthew, 537 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: since Matt Ryan left, right, you're gonna fall into that 538 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 2: kind of purgatory in the league, and you're not gonna 539 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: be high enough to get a top guy, you're also 540 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: not gonna. 541 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: And it doesn't And if you don't have that guy, 542 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what you put around it. They were 543 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: trying to do it by putting the best possible playmakers 544 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: around that guy. But if but if that guy is 545 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: not the guy, it's it's not it's not gonna work. 546 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: You can give me Kobe Steak, Mike, I'm not gonna 547 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 2: be able to do much with it, you know what 548 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: I mean. Like if you can have the best ingredients possible, 549 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: but you have to you have to have somebod that's 550 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: gonna cook with it. 551 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: I'll just say quickly too. With regard to the twenty 552 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: twenty draft, Patrick Queen was the guy that I really 553 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: liked and I was disappointed the Packers did not take him. 554 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: But and Patrick Queen's a solid NFL player, but the 555 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: Ravens didn't even bring him back on a second contract. 556 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: He's he became a free agent, went and signed somewhere else. 557 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 2: And I bet you got pretty excited when an ESPN 558 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: threw up that comparison graphic for Edrian Cooper too. 559 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 3: Patrick Queen, there we go whom the Packers were able 560 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: to get at forty five overall. 561 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. 562 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 3: That's the game. 563 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: A little bit of sponsor business. 564 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 3: You're serious. 565 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: XM NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to 566 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need. Twenty 567 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: four to seven, three six five And at Cousins Subs, 568 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: we have something for everyone like our Wisconsin cheese curds, 569 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: mac and cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired 570 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: with your favorite sub or sub in a bowl. Cousin 571 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: Subs fifty plus years of better. Last thing before we 572 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: go West Rookie Mini Camp is this weekend. The players 573 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: are actually arriving in Green Bay today going through all 574 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: sorts of orientation stuff physicals, get their equipment, get you know, 575 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: their shoes, their helmet, the all kinds of stuff, figure 576 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: out where they get food, you know, learn the building 577 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: a little bit. We will get a chance to talk 578 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: to players in the locker room on Friday. We'll also 579 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: get a chance to watch some of the first practice 580 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 1: on Friday. Just quickly your your approach, your thoughts on 581 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: kind of what you like to keep your eye on 582 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: during this Rookie Mini camp. 583 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 2: Two things I always enjoy watching is one seeing who 584 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 2: the tryout players end up being there, always ends up 585 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 2: being a name or two that you don't expect that 586 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: ends up being involved with it. And then occasionally you 587 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 2: find a Lucas Patrick out of this bunch that ends 588 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: up being a player for you. The undrafted process does 589 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 2: not just begin and end immediately after the draft. It'll 590 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 2: keep going on. Another guy that speaks that is Emmanuel 591 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 2: Wilson last year, starting with Denver getting cut ending up 592 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 2: with Green Bay makes a fifty three man roster that's 593 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: always neat to see. But the other thing I enjoy 594 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: about it, it's not gonna be overly competitive. You're not 595 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: gonna see guys you know, there's gonna be no scuffles, 596 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: will be nothing like that. Everyone will be on their 597 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: best behavior, and the packers are mostly just gonna want 598 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: to get these guys growing accustomed to what they're gonna 599 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: expect when they come back for OTAs in the format 600 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 2: of those practices. But it's always neat when you can 601 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: see the athleticism of these guys, and that's really all 602 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to see. You're gonna be able 603 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: to see the speed, You're gonna be able to see 604 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 2: the way they catch the ball or in Michael Pratt's case, 605 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 2: the way he throws the ball. That to me is 606 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 2: where it's the first time you get eyes on these 607 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: guys because you can look at their highlights, you can 608 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: you can see their bios and all the things that 609 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 2: they accomplished in college. But this is the first time 610 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 2: you actually get to see the players in the semi 611 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: unit and kind of going about their process. And it's 612 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: a weird thing because you know, we do like a 613 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 2: bunch of interviews and then we watch the practice, then 614 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: mattle talk, and then we'll watch another practice. So you 615 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: only learn so much, but I think it gives you 616 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: a definite feel. Like, for example, the first time we 617 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: saw Lucas fantast you're like, oh, okay, well this is 618 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: why this guy was drafted thirteenth overall. 619 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, this looks like a. 620 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: Greek god, right right, Yeah, looking at it, it's it's 621 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: always interesting to me looking at just getting a chance 622 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: to see what they look like physically on the field 623 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: with their helmet on, even though they're not in pads. 624 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's just you know, shorts and helmets, 625 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: but seeing what they look like physically when when Okay, 626 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: this isn't This isn't your college team anymore. This is 627 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: more the cream of the crop of the college guys. 628 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: Even when you're talking the tryout guys who don't have 629 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: a contract, those are still the guys who were, you know, 630 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: the cream of the crop in college. Not it's not 631 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: just you know, eighty five scholarship players on one sideline. 632 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: But then the other thing that always that always strikes 633 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: me is is just watching some of the fundamental stuff, 634 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: like how do guys catch the ball? I mean, you know, 635 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. It's always stood out to me. The 636 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen rookie Mini camp one of the things. And 637 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: for whatever reason that day, I don't know exactly why, 638 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: but the Packers were doing were doing all kinds of 639 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: punt and punt return drills in that rookie Mini camp practice, 640 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: and Micah Hyde is back there fielding punts, yep. And 641 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: you know he looked he looked as natural and as 642 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: smooth and easy catching all, you know, these wobbly punts 643 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: and everything else, as anybody had ever seen as a rookie. 644 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: It's just you look at that guy and you go, ah, 645 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: that's the that's a baller. You know, like there was 646 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: nothing that was going to phase that guy. And and 647 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: sure enough, he was just a rookie fifth round pick 648 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: out of Iowa who ran too slow at the time, 649 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: and we all know what he became for both the 650 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: Packers and the Buffalo Bills. So those are the kinds 651 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: of things that that are always interestable, and it's just 652 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: it's such a brief introduction. You know, they get they 653 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: get the playbook and they get you know, I don't know, 654 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: half a dozen or a dozen plays just to you know, 655 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: they they get a quarterback like Michael Pratt to just 656 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: learn how to spit out a couple of different plays 657 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: in the huddle and uh, and to get everybody on 658 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: the same page and whatnot. Because as you said, the 659 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: next the next step then is toward the end of 660 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: this month, when the OTAs begin. They're thrown in there 661 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: with all the veterans. Then it's like, okay, this is 662 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: a this is gonna be a real, non padded but 663 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: a real NFL practice that these guys are going to 664 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: be in and uh, and they get you know, three 665 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: four weeks of that, including the mini camp in the 666 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: middle of June. 667 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 2: And one other thing to mention too, just very quickly 668 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: with Michael Pratt, because yeah, OTAs are going to come 669 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: around and it'll be just like training camp where it's 670 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: predominantly Jordan Love and Sean Clifford will get some snaps 671 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: as well. But you know, as we learned, uh you know, 672 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: I think it was yesterday. You know, Alex McGoo is 673 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: gonna be making the switch over to receiver now. So 674 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: Michael Pratt is sitting in that umber three spot. That 675 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: means that you're not going to be the fourth guy up, 676 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: You're going to be the third guy out. Yeah, So 677 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: if you know, if trickle things coming down and trickle 678 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: to your OTAs, you have to be ready for that moment. 679 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: It sounds like the young man has that disposition about him. 680 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: But it again one of the reasons why when you 681 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: think of like Sean Clifford jumping in the way he did, 682 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: or even Tim Boyle back in twenty eighteen. Yeah, they 683 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: set that tone right from the beginning of OTAs to 684 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: make their case for making a roster right being the 685 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: number two quarterback and all the every opportunity matters. So 686 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: even if it is you know, if you don't really 687 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: recognize anybody right away, you trying to just figure things 688 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: out while you're out there. 689 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: It's all it's all reviewed, it's all graded. 690 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: And ultimately that's how you start setting a depth charties 691 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: you get into training camp. 692 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody wins or loses any jobs, any jobs during 693 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: the rookie mini camp, except maybe the tryout guys. Of course, 694 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the draft picks and the undrafted guys 695 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: who have already signed. Nobody wins or loses any jobs 696 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: during the rookie minicamp. But first impressions do matter and 697 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: that and these guys know that. 698 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's exciting too, because there's very few times 699 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: where you and I will go out there and it's 700 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: just you're looking at a completely new football team. You know, 701 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: there will usually be like, what maybe forty between thirty 702 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: five fifty guys that are out there on the field, 703 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: depending on how big the UFA classes and how many 704 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: returning veterans are eligible to play participate in it. But 705 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: it's again, it's setting out the books and pens and 706 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: papers for the first day of school. It's another step 707 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: towards getting back towards the season and ultimately figuring out 708 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: if any of these eleven guys can make the impact 709 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: that you know that draft class did a year. 710 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: Ago absolutely well. On our next show, we will share 711 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: some of our first impressions with regard to the Rookie 712 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: Mini Camp, but for now we'll call it a rap. 713 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: On this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow 714 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: all of our coverage of the team. Everything with regard 715 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: to Rookie Mini Camp that we have access to, we 716 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: will cover it to the best of our ability on 717 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: packers dot com or wes. I Am Mike. Thank you 718 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: for tuning in, everybody who will see you next time.