1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,440 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 2: It is Verdic with Center, Ted Cruz, and it's Ben 3 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 2: Ferguson with you. It's so nice to have you with us, 4 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: and certainly if you're listening on radio right now as well, 5 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: we love having you with us as well. And this 6 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: is going to be a really fun show tonight Center, 7 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: because we're gonna get to have a good friend of 8 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: ours on take a pause sort of from politics for 9 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: a moment, talk about a cool new book that is 10 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: out and what was behind writing this book, and I'll 11 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: let you take it from there. 12 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 3: You know, Ben, I got to say, we try to 13 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 3: count on being honest and candid with our viewers and listeners, 14 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 3: and yet you just claim that we're going to take 15 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: a break from politics, and this is about as far 16 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: away from taking a break from politics as I can 17 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 3: possibly imagine. 18 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 4: Today. 19 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: We are very pleased to welcome our friend Eric Trump, 20 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: President Donald Trump's son, who has a brand new book. 21 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: A brand new book came out this week. The book 22 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: is entitled Under Siege, My Family's Fight to Save Our Nation. 23 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: He is in the midst of his nationwide book tour 24 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: right now, and in classic Trump fashion, he's on the list. 25 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: And there's only one place to be on the list, 26 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: and that is at number one. It's the number one 27 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: best selling book in America right now. And Eric, this 28 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 3: is your first book. It ain't bad debuting at number one. 29 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: Congratulations and welcome. 30 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 5: Mister senator. 31 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 6: Now it will probably be my last book as well, 32 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 6: because we're not I'm not doing this again. You know, 33 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 6: the return, the return on time of books is especially 34 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 6: when you put your heart and soul into it. But yeah, 35 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 6: we're number one on Amazon, We're number one on all 36 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 6: the lists, and it's I mean, it just went viral. 37 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 5: I think. You know, people in this country are pissed off. 38 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 6: And mister Centater, you you've done a better job fighting 39 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 6: against a weaponization of government than I would say just 40 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 6: about anybody other than maybe Donald Trump, right, who's had 41 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 6: to face all of this. And you know, I became 42 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 6: the pinata in this whole fight because I was the 43 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 6: one guy who didn't have constitutional protections. I was a civilian, 44 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 6: you know, I was a guy that was running the 45 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 6: Trump organization. I was the guy that ran everything that 46 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 6: was outside of Washington, DC for my father when he 47 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 6: went into the White House. And what they tried to 48 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 6: do to us, what they tried to do to our family, 49 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 6: what they tried to do to this nation, what they 50 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 6: tried to do to you and and all your viewers 51 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 6: on this show is unthinkable, and somebody had to materialize 52 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 6: it because there's the greatest governmental corruption this nation has 53 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 6: ever seen. 54 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: Well, you're right, and they launched everything they had at 55 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: your father, at your family, four separate indictments. On top 56 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: of that, the asinine case from the New York Attorney 57 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 3: General trying to argue that somehow global international banks are 58 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: innocent wifes who are deceived and are apparently are unable 59 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: to value real estate because you know, giant banks have 60 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: never had to value real estate in the past. I 61 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: will confess, for me, maybe the most absurd moment of 62 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: all of it was when the idiot judge in New 63 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: York valued bar a Lago at eighteen million dollars, which 64 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: I'll confess I saw it. 65 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: I would have bought it for that. 66 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: I saw your dad not shortly after that, and I 67 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: offered it on the spot. I said, miss President, I'll 68 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: give you twenty million right now. Well they too, I mean, 69 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: as you as you know, you can't buy a hot 70 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 3: dog stand in Palm Beach for eighteen million dollars, and 71 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: that notion that to me, it was the most ludicrous. 72 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: It was a relatively small detail of what was a 73 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: pile of idiocy upon idiocy. But you guys were the 74 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: targets of it, and and it it cannot have been fun. 75 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 5: Mister Center. 76 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 6: I became the most openied man in American history for 77 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 6: doing absolutely nothing wrong. I'm not Hunter Biden. I never 78 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 6: had a speeding ticket in my life. I've lived a 79 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 6: very straight, very good life, hard working guy, no games, 80 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 6: never even approached the line, you know, raised right, you know, 81 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 6: and and they tried to destroy us. I was the 82 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 6: one those gang calls from the FBI. You remember the 83 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 6: Russia hoos very well because you were probably the best 84 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 6: person in fighting against it. Eric, I hear you have 85 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 6: secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower communicating directly 86 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 6: with the Kremlin. I go, excuse me, I literally started, 87 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 6: mister Center. I started laughing. I started laughing. I go, 88 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 6: First of all, you don't keep servers in basements because 89 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 6: basements flood. Second of all, were like largely cloud based. 90 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 6: And they did it so a greedy woman could get 91 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 6: about three extra votes, right, And they used that as 92 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 6: their explanation as to why she lost. And then it 93 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 6: was at peachment number one, and then it was a 94 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 6: peachment number two, and then it was them attacking Cavanaugh, 95 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 6: and then it was one hundred and twelve subpoenas that 96 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 6: I received for again doing nothing wrong. And then it 97 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 6: was a weaponization of every attorney general and district attorney 98 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 6: in this country, whether it be Latitia James or Alvin 99 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 6: Bragg or Cy Vance or Fanny Willis and her boyfriend 100 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 6: in Fulton, Georgia, you know, or Jack Smith or Comy 101 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 6: and everything that they did. Then they spied on her campaign. 102 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 6: Then they did the weaponization of Faiza. Then they took 103 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 6: my father off the ballot in Colorado, and then they 104 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 6: took him off the ballot in Maine. And when that 105 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 6: didn't work, they tried to silence his voice and get 106 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 6: rid of his First Amendment right. 107 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 5: So what did they do? 108 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 6: Took him off of YouTube, took him off of Twitter, 109 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 6: took him off of Facebook, took him off of Instagram. 110 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 6: And when that didn't work, when we popped up true social, 111 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 6: what did they do? They had every judge imposed gag 112 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 6: orders on him and. 113 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 5: Then they rated mar Lago. 114 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 6: I was the guy that got the call when third 115 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 6: FBI agents were outside screaming in a phone to me 116 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 6: turn off the security cameras at m R A Lago. 117 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 6: They did everything they could, and then they de banked us, 118 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 6: and then they deplatformed us. They tried to bankrupt us, 119 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 6: they tried to imprison us. And I'll never forget walking 120 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 6: out of that jail cell with my father in New 121 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 6: York after the thirty four felony accounts right which have 122 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 6: all been overturned, and I said, Dad, we either win 123 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 6: the White House or you and I are in jail 124 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 6: for doing absolutely nothing wrong. That's how diabolical the pendulum was. 125 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 6: And they were doing it to the people in this 126 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 6: country as well. They were debanking them. They were going 127 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 6: after their pastors, they were going after their churches. They 128 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 6: were weaponizing the irs. 129 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 5: You know. 130 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 6: They were skipping great people who had worked their butts 131 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 6: off their entire year because of DEI hires and literally 132 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 6: ruining upward mobility of people across the country. They were 133 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 6: corrupting their children. They were teaching them revisionist history. This 134 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 6: siege wasn't just against the Trump family, it was against 135 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 6: all of us. 136 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 5: It was against both of you, it was against. 137 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 6: Every person watching us right now, and people are pissed 138 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 6: off in this country, and that's why this book went 139 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 6: to number one. 140 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: You mentioned mar Lago a second ago and getting that 141 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: phone call. Can you just explain how insane that day 142 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: must have been, because I know people we saw it 143 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: on TV, but you were on the inside. And when 144 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: you're getting a phone called, they're telling you to turn 145 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: your cameras off. 146 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: So like, what time of day is it, what are 147 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 4: you doing? 148 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 6: It was about seven fifty eight o'clock in the morning 149 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 6: when I got a call from my team. They say, 150 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 6: the thirty FBI agents and they have a search warrant. 151 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 6: I go, what are they searching? I'm not sure if 152 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 6: I understand, Like we have like such a great relationship 153 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 6: with law enforcement. It was bizarre at the time. I go, 154 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 6: how would I not know about this? From Secret Service? 155 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 6: How would I not know? I mean, they didn't give 156 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 6: anybody warning. And I'll never forget, I said. I finally 157 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 6: figured out what they were doing, and I said, did 158 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 6: anybody let my father know? And it was my team, 159 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: really and they said no, And I go, we'll call 160 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 6: him right now, and we met in his office and 161 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 6: that's when he wrote up that beautiful tweet, as you remember, 162 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 6: And the FBI was so damn pissed that we sent 163 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 6: out that tweet. They wanted to have the narrative, they 164 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 6: wanted to be able to release a story, and instead 165 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 6: my father writes that beautiful tweet. You know, right now, 166 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 6: the FBI is raiding the famous Mara A Lago, my home, 167 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 6: you know, And the world went crazy. The world couldn't 168 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 6: stand it. It was the worst decision that they ever made. 169 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 6: And remember, Senator, they said it was on behalf of 170 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 6: Nara right National Archives. Does anybody I went on Hannity 171 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 6: that night, I go, does anybody actually believe with glorified 172 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 6: library send thirty FBI agents to invade Mara A Lago 173 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 6: with firearms? 174 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 5: Give me a break, right? 175 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 6: And then sure enough it comes out there was Joe Biden, 176 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 6: and it was Merrick Garland, and it was the whole 177 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 6: host of criminals that weaponized the entire system. But I'll 178 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 6: never forget that call. Thirty FBI agents outside of mar 179 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 6: A Lago. 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So everyone listening, I hope you'll buy 216 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 2: the book just so we can screw with them a 217 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: little bit. Center you've been at the top of that list, 218 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: it's hard to get there. 219 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: Well, I will say, Eric, you should brace yourself. It 220 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: doesn't matter how many copies of the book you sell. 221 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: The New York Times is going to insist that like 222 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 3: left Handed Transgender Witches, is the number one book in America, 223 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: and to be fair, in the New York Times newsroom, 224 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: it probably is the number one book in America. But 225 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: but if you get outside the New York Times and 226 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 3: to the rest of America, there are a lot of 227 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: people right now that are going to Amazon. Go to 228 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: Amazon right now by Eric truck Trump's book Keep It 229 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: at number one, Annoy a Liberal by two, buy one 230 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: for yourself, and buy one to give a liberal just 231 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: to drive them crazy. And and and to say, explain 232 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: to me again how you think weaponization is a bad thing. 233 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: Because because your you're liberal friends, to the extent you 234 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: have any that they haven't defriended you, They're not going 235 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: to have an answer to that. Eric, tell me what 236 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: was your dad's reaction when you went in and and 237 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: told them, okay, the FBI agents are here. I assume 238 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: he was pissed, But like, what was his immediate reaction 239 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: when you tell him that It. 240 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 5: Was actually remarkably calm. 241 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 6: You know, it's it's you know, I've seen my father 242 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 6: pissed many times, but he doesn't get pissed off and 243 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 6: in situations of kind of like great anguish and stress. Right, 244 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 6: it's no different than Butler. But you know, almost foreshadow 245 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 6: Butler is the same thing. It's it's I probably would 246 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 6: have been pissed in Butler and I think he was 247 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 6: actually remarkably calm, especially in the aftermath of what happened. 248 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 6: And you know he was always his commist in the 249 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 6: worst moments, always, I mean and center. You saw many 250 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 6: of them. I mean you were there for many of them, 251 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 6: in so many different ways. You know, he never let 252 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 6: emotion fly. It was it was a very he goes, 253 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 6: you gotta be kidding me, all right, honey, meet me 254 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 6: in my office. You know, we're going to write up 255 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 6: a statement. And that's when he let that truth fly, 256 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 6: and you know, the rest is history. I mean, for 257 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 6: the next month, they had helicopters buzzing over mar a 258 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 6: Lago and you know the scenes of that front gate. 259 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 6: You remember this, the cop car from the front gate 260 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 6: of mar Lago. I mean, mar Lago became, not that 261 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 6: it wasn't probably already, but he became the most famous 262 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 6: property in the world. Based on on that raid and 263 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 6: what they did, and then the aftermath of all of it, 264 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 6: we find out Jack Smith was bringing in classified folders 265 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 6: and effectively staging photo shoots on the. 266 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 5: Office floor of my father's office. 267 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 6: But you know, as I said before, guys, I mean 268 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 6: they were going through Malania's closet they were going through 269 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 6: Baron's room. They literally they took his medical records, right 270 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 6: like hipA related records. That pissed off the judge. I 271 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 6: can only tell you they took attorney client documents right. 272 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 6: That also really pissed off Eileen Cannon, the judge on 273 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 6: the case. You just you couldn't believe it. And then 274 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 6: you know, again, all of this was stage. You think 275 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 6: Donald Trump just leaves classified folders fanned out perfectly on 276 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 6: the floor. I mean, it was all staged. It was 277 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 6: all set up. They wanted to imprison him. They wanted 278 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 6: to take his voice. They wanted to imprison him. They 279 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 6: wanted him behind bars. They didn't want him to be 280 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 6: able to campaign. They wanted to weaponize a system in 281 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 6: any way, shape or form, and they weren't able to 282 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 6: do it. 283 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: A lot of people remember the deplatforming, and you mentioned 284 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: that earlier, and you go back to the end of 285 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: his first term in office. But one of the things 286 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier on was they tried to ruin your 287 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: businesses by d banking. You can you explain for people 288 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: that don't understand just how critical that was in a 289 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: time and the Trump organization you've been handled the family 290 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: business to run it. And now you're finding out you 291 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: can't even have banking the way that you need to 292 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: have banking to literally run businesses, whether your big business 293 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: are small business. A lot of people listening right now. 294 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: If you don't have a bank, you don't have a business. 295 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, Ben, it was that times one hundred. 296 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 6: I mean they they literally it was coordinated by the administration, 297 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 6: There's no question about it. And they called up and 298 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 6: they said, listen, congratulations, you cancel the account. I was 299 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 6: getting these letters. I got one from Capital One. They 300 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 6: had three hundred bank accounts. And these aren't like baby 301 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 6: bank accounts. These are massive commercial buildings that have hundreds 302 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 6: of tenants, you know, thousands of people working in these buildings, 303 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 6: hundreds if not thousands, of vendors, heavy real estate taxes. 304 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 6: I mean people, hundreds and hundreds of people depend their 305 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 6: livelihoods depend on on these businesses. They've got complicated lock 306 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 6: box provisions and loan you know, loan documents, thousands of 307 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 6: inputs coming in like this, you know, and they just 308 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 6: called up. You know, your accounts are going to get closed. 309 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 6: You've got one or two days to move them, and congratulations, 310 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 6: you're done. All because we wore a hat that said 311 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 6: make America great again. 312 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 5: That was read. 313 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 6: These were commercial buildings, these were condominium associations, these were 314 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 6: small golf courses, these were you know, residential shops, were 315 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 6: scrow accounts, things that had nothing to do, nothing to 316 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 6: do with politics whatsoever. And they canceled us like we 317 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 6: were dogs. Capital One was the worst. 318 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 5: JP. 319 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 6: Morgan was horrible. Bank of America was horrible. First Republic 320 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 6: was terrible. But it wasn't just the banks. It was 321 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 6: platform Shopify. Shopify literally gave us a notice they do 322 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 6: all the e comm platforms in the middle of the night, 323 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 6: turned off our accounts like we were nothing right. We 324 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 6: were selling golf polos that we have, you know from 325 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 6: mar A Lago. And they did everything they could took 326 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 6: to hurt us, to turn off the rails right again. 327 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 6: They wanted our voice gone, They wanted us bankrupt, they 328 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 6: wanted the name off of every building. They wanted us 329 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 6: thrown out of New York. You had Letitia James, I 330 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 6: was trying to repossess our assets. I mean it was 331 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 6: almost like forfeiture. It was not constitutional. Hence the reason 332 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 6: the appellate courts throughout the case five zero and we 333 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 6: got a resounding victory two weeks ago or three weeks ago. 334 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 5: Guys, they tried everything they could. 335 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 6: And because I was the guy outside of Washington, DC, 336 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 6: because I ran the company, it all fell on me. 337 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 6: That's how I became the most opened person the history 338 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 6: of this country, having never done a damn thing wrong. 339 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 6: They wanted to get to my father coming through me. 340 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: That Now, were these business accounts personal accounts both? I mean, 341 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: how many accounts are we talking about? 342 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: Roughly like what. 343 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 6: Five five hundred? You know, lots of those being business accounts, 344 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 6: all of them being us. You know, my wife has 345 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 6: a like athletic clothing line. You know, JP Morgan Chase 346 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 6: wouldn't open up an account, so you know, for her, 347 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 6: she's not Donald Trump, She's not the Trump organization. They 348 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 6: did this to everyone in the family. If you even 349 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 6: came close. You know, if you even came close. I 350 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 6: have a little farm with a couple buddies. They canceled 351 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 6: that account. Doesn't wear a Trump name, it can't. They 352 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 6: were indiscriminate. If it was six degrees of sep in 353 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 6: narration from Trump, they canceled us. And honestly, guys, you know, 354 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 6: I'm an outspoken you know, a big fan of you know, cryptocurrency. 355 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 6: That's how I found crypto because I realized how quickly 356 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 6: financial institutions can be weaponized against the American people and 357 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 6: realize that there's nothing that can be done on you know, 358 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 6: using traditional financial institutions that can't be done better, faster, cheaper, safer, 359 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 6: and more efficiently using cryptocurrency. 360 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 5: And I'm the biggest proponent of it. 361 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: Did did they even even purport to give you any 362 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: explanation or do they just say no, it's canceled like 363 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: like that that they didn't was there any details or 364 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: you just get phone calls or get an email and say, okay, 365 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: this account's done. 366 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 367 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 6: Other other than a lot of those, you know a 368 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 6: lot of the people that worked in the in the 369 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 6: banks who otherwise said this is the most I can't 370 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 6: believe it. I can't believe what my bank's doing. This 371 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 6: is all political. That's what they're saying in the corridors 372 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 6: every day. They canceled you for political reasons. There's no 373 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 6: other explanation they're telling us, you know, they're telling us 374 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 6: we can't talk to you ever again. I was unbelievable, 375 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 6: and I would not wish that on my worst enemy, 376 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 6: to take the rails of being able to pay employees. 377 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 6: These are housekeepers, these are janitors, these are engineers, these 378 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 6: are security officers, these are drivers, hospitality workers, to not 379 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 6: be able to pay them a salary, all because somebody 380 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 6: wanted to politicize a system against a candidate because they 381 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 6: happened to be a conservative and they believed in making 382 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 6: America great again. 383 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: SATA, this is a story that we're hearing about the 384 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 2: weaponization of the private sector, not the government, the private 385 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: sector against the Trump organization. The moment that he just said, 386 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: five hundred bank acounts just shut down, I'm shocked by that. 387 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: I think you were as well. 388 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 4: That number. 389 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 3: I'd never heard anything remotely close to that. I mean, 390 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: that really is stunning. So you're running your families outside businesses, 391 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: you get these calls. What do you do when you're 392 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 3: given what you said, twenty four hours forty eight hours notice, Like, 393 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: were there banks that were willing to welcome your business 394 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 3: or what did you do with with five hundred accounts 395 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: being canceled. 396 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 6: You're a lot of attorney generals, and you had a 397 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 6: lot of government institutions that were going to these banks 398 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 6: and don't even think about don't touch that account. You know, 399 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 6: Letitia James was doing that to the bonding companies when 400 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 6: we had to after the initial ruling, when we had 401 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 6: to post a six hundred million dollar bond by the way, 402 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 6: that that was like five times the size of the 403 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 6: Boeing bond. That that made them, you know that literally 404 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 6: it was it was it was the biggest bond ever 405 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 6: seen in the country, you know. And she was going 406 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 6: to the very same institution saying, don't even touch that bond. 407 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 6: So we had to post the bond based on the 408 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 6: court before we had everything overturned, and she was going 409 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 6: to the biggest assurance company saying, you don't touch that bond. 410 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 6: You know, you're you're registered in New York and if 411 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 6: you touched that bond, I'm going to think less favorably 412 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 6: on you. That's how badly they weaponize the system. What 413 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 6: do you do when you get those letters? You want 414 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 6: to crawl under your desk. And honestly, I had I 415 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 6: had probably one hundred people in the company that didn't 416 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 6: sleep for a six month period of time who were distraught, 417 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 6: and thank god we had enough little local banks you 418 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 6: know that that you move all the accounts unthinkable, right 419 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 6: to these little local branches who want to take your money. 420 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 6: But these weren't the JP Morrigans, these weren't the Bank 421 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 6: of Americas. They were still a little They were a small, 422 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 6: little mom and pop regional banks that did the right 423 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 6: thing and honestly probably saved us based on the fact 424 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 6: that they were willing to do the right thing. This 425 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 6: didn't just happen to us. I was on the campaign trail, 426 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 6: I'd hear from people every single day. You know, my 427 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 6: bank canceled me. Why well, my company makes a spring 428 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 6: and the spring goes in a fishing reel, and that 429 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 6: fishing reel sold at bass pro shops, and bass pro 430 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 6: shops sells twelve games duck hunting ammo, and they thought 431 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 6: the affiliation. I heard this everywhere I went. I heard 432 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 6: it from the crypto guys. I believed in bitcoin. I 433 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 6: believed in stable coin. I believe in the future of 434 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 6: kind of modern finance. And because I believed in crypto currency, 435 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 6: my banks canceled me. Well, COVID canceled me, Bank of 436 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 6: America canceled me. 437 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 5: Guys. 438 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 6: I heard this all over the place. You know, we 439 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 6: need to make this illegal, and it is it's illegal 440 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 6: in a lot of states and under a lot of 441 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 6: banking clauses. But the fact that you can literally, I mean, 442 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 6: could you imagine if if AIGHTE and t or of 443 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 6: Rise and just decided to cancel all conservative cell phones. 444 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 445 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 5: Right. 446 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 6: If you can't bank, you can't survive. If you can't bank, 447 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 6: you can't eat. If you can't bank, you can't pay employees. 448 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 6: And yet they turned us off like we were dogs. 449 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: How much money do you think that trump when you 450 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: guys were out during the four years and under siege 451 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: like this, How many business deals got blown up because 452 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: people were afraid even to just do business with you, 453 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: because they're afraid their business will be affected negatively and 454 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: they could be targeted. I'm assuming that was a reality 455 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: for quite some time. 456 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 6: Well, I talk a lot about it in the book. 457 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 6: I mean the reporters that just made their whole livelihoods. 458 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 6: David Farrenholdt from the Washington Post and and and others, 459 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 6: you know, made their entire livelihoods calling up you know, 460 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 6: vendors of ours, calling up our employees, calling up brides 461 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 6: and grooms that were gonna get married. 462 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 5: At one of the properties, one of the hotels. 463 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: And they were harassing people that were getting married at 464 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: Trump resorts. 465 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 6: Oh I have I have more emails than you can 466 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 6: possibly imagine. You know, I hear you're gonna go get 467 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 6: married at at Mr Lago. Oh really, you know this 468 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 6: might have to make the front cover of of our 469 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 6: respective paper. You know, can you please get me comment? 470 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 6: And these brides and grooms are saying, I just want 471 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 6: to get married in peace, you know, I just you know, 472 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 6: there's a beautiful property. I'm not a political person. I 473 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 6: just you know it's it's it's a five star property. 474 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 6: I love the place. It's convenient, my family lives nearby. 475 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 6: Whatever the hell of the reason they were doing that. 476 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 6: They were extorting employees, They were going up to employees. 477 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 6: They frankly tried to do it to me. Hey, you 478 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 6: tell us anything about Donald Trump, will let you go. 479 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 6: You know all the problems. 480 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: They tried to turn you against your own father. 481 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 6: Alvin Bragg, Are you kidding me? Cyrus vance all of them. 482 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 6: They they weaponized every da in and AG to try 483 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 6: and flip every single person to say anything negative, to 484 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 6: get any negative testimony against Donald Trump for their own 485 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 6: political purposes. Absolutely, that was the whole game. They played, 486 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 6: and no one in our company broke. Guys, this was 487 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: the siege that I dealt with every single day, right, 488 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 6: I mean it was it was all of these factors 489 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 6: that came together, all at once, all the time, doing 490 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 6: anything they could to to to just chop us off 491 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 6: at every single I mean, when they made up the 492 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 6: dirty dossier, when they made up right, I mean they 493 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 6: have stories about prostitution in there, about golden you know, 494 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 6: what's right? What do you think they were trying. They 495 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 6: were trying to divorce my father. They were trying to 496 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 6: destroy his marriage. They were trying to break up our family. 497 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 6: That's what they were trying to do. Also, a greedy 498 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 6: woman could get, you know again, two more votes. These 499 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 6: people are sick, These people are deranged, and there's been 500 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 6: zero accountability for any of it. And as a son 501 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 6: who fought by my father's side every single day during 502 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 6: this battle, somebody had to tell this story. Somebody had 503 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 6: to tell the inside perspective of the lens that a 504 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 6: corrupt government will go to besides just spying on campaigns 505 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 6: and despite just you know, raiding homes, you know, all 506 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 6: the things that they did to try and destroy us, 507 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 6: to try and destroy make America great again and try 508 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 6: and destroy conservatives all across the country. 509 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: Look, it was unmitigated evil, and it was driven part 510 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: of it was driven by hate. Today, the defining characteristic 511 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: I think of the Democrat Party is they hate your father. Yeah, uh, 512 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 3: and they hate your family. I mean that anything connected 513 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: to your father they hate. And I think it also, though, 514 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 3: was a deep contempt for democracy. I think every one 515 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: of these indictments, I think the weaponization that we saw 516 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: their underlying terror is that the voters would do what 517 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 3: they did in November of twenty twenty four and vote 518 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: to re elect your father. And this was all about 519 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 3: undermining democracy and preventing the voters from doing that. You know, Eric, 520 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: you mentioned earlier that you described yourself as as the 521 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 3: most subpoena man in America. How many subpoenas did you get? 522 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: And and and and did you testify a lot of times? 523 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 3: Were they demanding documents? What subpoenas were coming? 524 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 6: In one hundred twelve subpoenas. I sat in more depositions 525 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 6: than any human being in the history of of of 526 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 6: of depositions. And by the way, these are like big 527 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 6: boy subpoenas, right, They're all coming from you know, your 528 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 6: close friend Elizabeth Warren as we like to call our Pocahontas. 529 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 6: And in many and many others we turned over. I mean, 530 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 6: they would ask for document discovery, you know, please give 531 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 6: us every email in the company, and they would a 532 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 6: thousand words. But aside from that, they would list national 533 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 6: and international. Well, all our hotels are Trump International Hotel, 534 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 6: and all our golf courses are Trump National Golf Course. 535 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 6: You could probably see where this is going. Every email 536 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 6: signature of every person in the company either has the 537 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 6: word national or international in it. That's their fishing expedition. 538 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 6: I actually brought this to the Supreme Court, and the 539 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 6: Supreme Court specifically told them you can't fish right, and 540 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 6: they they did it anyway. The judges didn't give a damn. 541 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 6: They wanted to find any comma that was out of place, 542 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 6: and they couldn't. I mean, in the Letitia James trial, 543 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 6: literally Deutsche Bank was on the stand saying that Trump 544 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 6: was the best lender that they've ever had. 545 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 5: Right. 546 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 6: We made them hundreds of millions of dollars, paid off 547 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 6: every loan, paid it off ahead of time, never missed 548 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 6: a payment. Even in the darkest days of COVID, when 549 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 6: they made a shutdown our properties. We never missed, we 550 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 6: never defaulted, we never breached a covenant. And then one 551 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 6: day I wake up to the nightmare of your fine 552 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 6: six hundred million dollars for doing nothing wrong with banks 553 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 6: that loved us, that testified that they loved us. I 554 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 6: mean it was you know, and that's because you had 555 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 6: a crooked judge again, got overturned five zero at the 556 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 6: next court. But they rigged out the entire system. And 557 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 6: you're seeing them do that right now, right, You're seeing 558 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 6: them do that in Washington, DC, where ninety four percent 559 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 6: of the cases that go in front of the lower 560 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 6: Course are literally, you know, going against the administration, and 561 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 6: then they all have to go up on a po 562 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 6: and get overturned. But guys, the beautiful thing about the 563 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 6: story is we won, right. I mean, the media loss, 564 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 6: The media lost their credibility. No one likes the mainstream media. 565 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 6: I mean, my wife is on Fox News on a 566 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 6: Saturday and nine pm, and she's getting four expra ratings 567 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 6: of CNN on the same time slot on a Tuesday, Wednesday, 568 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 6: Thursday in primetime slots. Right, no one likes the mainstream media. 569 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 6: ABC's dead, NBC's dead, CNN's dead and independent voices like 570 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 6: these podcasts are winning the day. 571 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: And by the way, she is doing an awesome job. 572 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: I had a chance to be on her show, and 573 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: she's she's a great interviewer because she's relaxed, she's having fun, 574 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: she's asking real quiest questions and and it's night and day. 575 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: Uh you know, I I will occasionally do do CNN. 576 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: Poor Ben was on CNN for six seven years. I 577 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: actually think he has a padded room and he like 578 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: like puts on a straight activity remembers those. 579 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: Times fighting comedies for seven years. 580 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 6: Hey, listen, I just came off Caitlyn Collins about twenty 581 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 6: minutes ago, right, So it's not some prayers. 582 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's so bad. Let me ask you 583 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 3: when all of this was coming in. And it is 584 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: not exaggeration to say there has never been a political 585 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 3: leader subject to more weaponization, more assaults, more insanely unfair 586 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: attacks than that than your father has been. 587 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 4: Was there ever a time that. 588 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: That that you felt yourself giving in to despair and 589 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: and and do you think your dad ever did? 590 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 591 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 6: Honestly, it's like we're like masochistic, We like we like 592 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 6: pain or something along those lines or it's like a 593 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 6: weird a weird trade, right, And I think it served 594 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 6: us well. But now I think we were so pissed 595 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 6: off at that point. We wanted to fight, and we 596 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 6: wanted to win. And we want to save the Constitution. 597 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 6: We want to save the American flag. We want to 598 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 6: save religion in society. We want to save the Second Amendment. 599 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 6: We want to end end wokeness. We wanted to stop 600 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 6: the dei nonsense. You know, men my size swimming in 601 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 6: women's sport. We wanted to save the greatest country in 602 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 6: the world against absolute lunacy. 603 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 5: And so we never gave up. 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Make the 638 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: switch and make a difference every time you pay your bill. 639 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: All right, So, our guest with us is Eric Trump, Senator. 640 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: You and I were just talking with him about this 641 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: really his family being under siege. You talked about these 642 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: big boy subpoenas part of that is to financially hurt you. 643 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: What did you, guys, spend just doing the fighting of 644 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: all the lawsuits against you during that four year period? 645 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: How much did it cost you? 646 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 5: Roughly four hundred million? 647 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, I laugh when people I, oh, Trump is 648 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 6: profiting off of go man, I go, wha wait? 649 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 5: Excuse me. 650 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 6: If you want to come in, I'll break down the finances. 651 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 6: You want a Trump's profit. We spent four hundred million 652 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 6: dollars to defend ourselves against nonsense, the fact that we 653 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 6: did not have secret servers communicating with the Kremlin, the 654 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 6: fact that Don wasn't a Russian agent. 655 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 5: Remember you had Adam Schiff out there every single day. 656 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 6: Donald Trump Junior is a Russian agent, guys, if he wasn't. 657 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 6: If he wasn't protected by the speech and debate laws, 658 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 6: you would have, honestly, the guy would have been worth 659 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 6: a zero. He would have been living in a shoe 660 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 6: box based on the fact that you would have sued 661 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 6: him for slander and taken everything that he ever had. 662 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 6: It was all made up lies. They did everything they 663 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 6: possibly could to take us down. We spent over four 664 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 6: hundred million dollars between that. You know, Letitia, you know 665 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 6: Alvin braggsy Vance, you know Fanny. 666 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 5: I mean, I could go on and on the raids 667 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 5: the Mara alive. 668 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 4: What was the worst to deal with? 669 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: Between Alvin Braggs, Sye Vance, Letitia, James jack Smith, who 670 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: was the worst? 671 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 5: Probably Letitia, if you want to know the truth. I mean, 672 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 5: it was so corrupt. 673 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 6: And I don't know Alvin Braggby's you had Breshawn, I 674 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 6: mean Judge Barshawn's daughter is like that, the head digital 675 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 6: fundraiser for the Democratic Party. And the guy wouldn't recuse himself, 676 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 6: and literally you'd be sitting in these courtrooms guys, and 677 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 6: I would not leave my father's side. I sat next 678 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 6: to him every single day. If he was there, I 679 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 6: was gonna be there as a son to support him, 680 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 6: you know, and most of the time, some of these 681 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 6: cases I wasn't gagged in so normally I was the 682 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 6: guy in the courthouse steps, you know, shouting and yelling 683 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 6: at the cameras as to what the hell was actually 684 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 6: going on, because that's the only way you could communicate 685 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 6: a message. But guys, I mean, you had liberal and 686 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 6: I mean liberal reporters who were in that courtroom shaking 687 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 6: their head saying none of this makes any sense. I mean, 688 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 6: they shut down all of Manhattan, Lower Manhattan for a 689 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars payment that my father didn't even make, 690 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 6: made by a lawyer. They indicted him thirty four times. 691 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, al Capone had had one fell 692 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 6: in the indictment. They indicted my father thirty four times 693 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 6: for one hundred thousand dollars payment, by the way, by 694 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 6: a district attorney who ran on the premise, you know, 695 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 6: of reducing what you know, just decriminalizing just about anything. 696 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 6: You know, you can shoot somebody in the face in 697 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 6: Times Square and it was decriminalized, and you're gonna let 698 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 6: them out, and you know, you're gonna have community policing 699 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 6: and all sorts of nonsense. I mean, he ran on 700 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 6: the premise of literally emptying Rikers Island, so you had 701 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 6: no criminals in there. Yet you know, thirty four felonies 702 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 6: in six month period of time is shutting down New 703 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 6: York in the FDR drive every day over one hundred 704 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 6: thousand dollars. 705 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 5: I mean, it wasn't believable. 706 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 3: If only your father were mugging people in Times Square, 707 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 3: then Alvin Bragg would never have prosecuted him. But instead 708 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 3: he committed the unspeakable sin of not only being president 709 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: of the United States, but being an extraordinarily successful and 710 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: bold president of the United States, which is an unpardonable sin. 711 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: All right, we don't have much much time left, but 712 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 3: I want to take it a little bit lighter and 713 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 3: ask what was it like? 714 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 4: Like? 715 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: Your father is unique. I've never in my life have 716 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 3: I met anyone remotely like your father. He and I 717 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: have spent a lot of time together. He has extraordinary courage. 718 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: But before he was president, what was it like growing 719 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: up as a kid with Donald Trump as your father? 720 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 4: Like? Like, like, how what was he like as a 721 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 4: dad when you were ten? 722 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 6: Honestly, the greatest dad you can ever imagine, expected big 723 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 6: things from us, right, I mean every day I go 724 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 6: give him kiss before I went to school. Honey, no 725 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 6: drink drinking, no drugs, no smoking. You better get good grades. 726 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 6: And by the way, never trust anybody. Right he did 727 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 6: once in a while I had that he never never 728 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 6: trust anyone. Hey, that's probably that was going to be 729 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 6: I said, I probably benefited us pretty well, so amazing guy. 730 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 6: You know, listen, we're spoiled as hell. And that we 731 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 6: lived in you know, Trump Tower. We had a beautiful 732 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 6: roof over our head. We were always well fed. We 733 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 6: we had the best education, but we were never handed money. 734 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 6: We're never handy cash. If we wanted something. If I 735 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 6: wanted a fishing road, congratulations, you're working for it. I 736 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 6: got on our construction sites when I was eleven years old, 737 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 6: doing demo, doing electrical HVAC you know, running back hose excavators. 738 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 6: You know, I grew up working with my hands on 739 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 6: our construction sites with many of the guys that work 740 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 6: for me today. And you know what, he wanted us 741 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 6: to learn a trait. He wanted us to learn the 742 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 6: value of a dollar. And by the way, he wanted 743 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 6: us to be tired as hell at the end of 744 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 6: the day. You know, because listen, don't give type A 745 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 6: kids or any kid, but don't give type A kids 746 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 6: money or free time, because bad things happen. 747 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 5: And he was an amazing father. He is an amazing father. 748 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 6: And everything we've ever done, we fought together, whether it's 749 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 6: real estate, whether it was The Apprentice. I was on 750 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 6: that for seven seasons, and then in politics. I mean 751 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 6: when he decided to run, he said to us, he goes, 752 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 6: you know, kids, let's do this. You know, I was 753 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 6: on Megan Kelly. I didn't know what the hell immigration was. 754 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 6: I mean, Senator, this was not my world. I built, 755 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 6: you know, hotels, and all of a sudden, I'm in the. 756 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: Middle of box, I a wall, and now you're on TV. 757 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 6: I've got ninety illegal immigrants around me, and I'm battling 758 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 6: all of them, and I don't know the first damn 759 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 6: thing about illegal immigration, right. I mean, like, this is 760 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 6: not the world that we came from. But my father's 761 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 6: a remarkable guy. My mother was an amazing powerhouse and strict, 762 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 6: demanded manners, demanded respect, demanded work ethic and either the 763 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 6: greatest parents you can ever imagine. I spent a lot 764 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 6: of time in underseaged talking about you know, being raised 765 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 6: by them, and you know it is unique in so 766 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 6: many ways, but they they did everything they could in 767 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 6: this strange world that we lived in, uh, to ground 768 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 6: us and make sure we turned out to be hard workers, 769 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 6: normal uh, you know, and didn't have any of these 770 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 6: kind of Hunter Biden esque problems. I don't have a 771 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 6: laptop from hell, you know, I don't do finger paintings 772 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 6: selling it to you know. 773 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 5: Foreign nationals all over the world. 774 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 6: You know, never married my you know, my brother's ex wife, Like, 775 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 6: never did that kind of stuff. No drugs, no, you know, 776 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 6: no perversion. I was always a good kid who believed 777 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 6: in God and believed in hard work and you know, 778 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 6: lived an honest life. 779 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 3: Eric, I can't tell you how many times, dozens, if 780 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 3: not hundreds of times people have commented that one of 781 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: the things they admire most about your dad. 782 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 4: Is is you and your brothers and sisters. 783 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 3: And listen, it is hard for for any successful person 784 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: to to raise good kids. 785 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 4: It's challenging. There's a lot of pressure and. 786 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 3: And you know, I, I know, know your entire family, 787 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 3: and I will say literally people early on throughout the process, 788 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 3: they'll comment, well, you know, somehow his kids are like, 789 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: like not messed up and incredibly successful and put together 790 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 3: and and I mean it's all right, let me ask you. 791 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 3: Let's let let's say we have some young parents that 792 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 3: are listening to this podcast. Are there any lessons a 793 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 3: young parent by the way, uh, you know Ben, Ben 794 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 3: has young kids, I have teenage Are there any lessons 795 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 3: any lessons from your dad that that young parents should 796 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 3: know or lessons that you've tried to apply. 797 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, keep them poor and make them start working early. Honestly, 798 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 6: I mean that's what it is. Keep them poor. Don't 799 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 6: don't give type A kids money and don't give them 800 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 6: endless time. That's just a bad recipe, right, And and 801 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 6: you know, I can't tell you, guys how many friends 802 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 6: I had, you know, who were who were peers who 803 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 6: went to school with me, And you know, three quarters 804 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 6: of them ended up in rehab and and a lot 805 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 6: of them went down bad roads. And guess what they 806 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 6: were getting ferraris you know when they're you know, sixteen 807 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 6: years old, Like, what what do you ever want to 808 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 6: aspire to to to get? If if that's that's how 809 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 6: you're being raised? I mean, does it surprise you that 810 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 6: those people don't have work? 811 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 5: Ethic. 812 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 6: Does it surprise you that they go down bad roads? 813 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 6: And my father would never let that happen to us. 814 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,439 Speaker 6: And you know, he made us work our butts off. 815 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 6: And believe me, if I wasn't good at what I 816 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 6: did real estate wise, I would not be in this chair. 817 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 5: I mean, forget about bapotism for a second. 818 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 4: It. 819 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 6: You know, if we weren't incredibly capable, believe me, I 820 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 6: wouldn't be running one of the largest real estate empires 821 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 6: anywhere in the world. And he made us work, and 822 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 6: he made us prove that we were good at what 823 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 6: we do, and we fought every single day. And we're 824 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 6: an incredibly tight family. And he's a remarkable person. He's 825 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 6: my best friend. I love him to death, and I'm 826 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 6: so proud of him, especially in a week where he's 827 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 6: accomplished as much as he had. I am so damn 828 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 6: proud of he, of what he did and what he's accomplished. 829 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 6: And the hell of a journey, guys, it's all worth it. 830 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 6: This is all worth it. The siege is all worth 831 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 6: it based on you know, the great things that are 832 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 6: happening to our country, in our world. 833 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: Grab the book Under Siege Amazon right now. Eric a pleasure. 834 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: Have you on, don't forget, grab the podcast, share wherever 835 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: you can, and thanks for joining us. It's Verdict with 836 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 2: Ted Curs, Ben Fergus and with you will see you 837 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: back here on the podcast all week long.