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Speaker 1: Scarable advice spell. Welcome to the naught Even Night Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Shooter, and guess what, It's Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: which means a dear friend. Delane and Dixon joins us. Hey, mister,

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Speaker 1: I am love Lily time. Last night I went to

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Speaker 1: a gala for Samuel Jackson and his wife Latania. They're

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Speaker 1: on Broadway. They're doing the piano lessons. She's directing. They

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Speaker 1: looked fan. That's right, his wife's directing him in the show.

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Speaker 1: And what was last night? Just the gala to celebrate them. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was a gala and they were also releasing one

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Speaker 1: million books, so there was a charity on it. They

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Speaker 1: were receiving a really big award from the Theater Group.

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Speaker 1: So it was just an incredible night. Lovely next time,

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Speaker 1: Mr Shooter, you have next next time? And didn't I

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Speaker 1: get this right? Tell me if I'm right. Isn't Candice

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Speaker 1: from the Real Housewives of Atlanta one of the producers

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Speaker 1: of that show? Yes? So um yeah, so Candy Candy.

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Speaker 1: That's it? Not Candice Candy? Like, yes, Candy Verus is

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Speaker 1: actually one of the producers, and it is the piano

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Speaker 1: lesson is the most financially successful Wilson production. This one

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Speaker 1: of this piano lesson and it's the greatest revival on

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Speaker 1: Broadway right now, this season making the most money. So

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Speaker 1: she knows what she's doing. She's making the ching ching ching,

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Speaker 1: look at the real house as I love it, And

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Speaker 1: let's jump into the show. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 1: It is t time. So we have even more shocking

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Speaker 1: revelations from Prince Harry's memoir. One of the biggest is

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Speaker 1: that Harry said the Royal family is quote a death

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Speaker 1: cult and that Windsor Castle is a tomb. So there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of shocking, lots of shocking stories in

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Speaker 1: the book. However, none is more bizarre then calling his

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Speaker 1: family quote a death cult. Let me explain, he said,

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Speaker 1: looking back at his memories with his estranged brother, Prince William. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's so sad that those two are at war, misty war.

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Speaker 1: I know, the books really all about that. The books

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Speaker 1: really all about his relationship with William, not Megan. It's

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Speaker 1: about William. But in any case, so he said, looking

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Speaker 1: back at his memories with William, he noted that their

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Speaker 1: lives are quote built on death and their experiences, all

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Speaker 1: their experiences are overshadowed by grief. That's what happens when

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Speaker 1: you're young and you lose a parent, he said the

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Speaker 1: following All wrote the following quote. I saw that even

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Speaker 1: our finest moments, our best memories, somehow involved death. Our

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Speaker 1: lives were built on death, Our brightest days were overshadowed

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Speaker 1: by it. Looking back, I didn't see lots of spots

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Speaker 1: of time that didn't dance with death. Maybe we are

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Speaker 1: a death cult, dark mister, but I do understand where

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Speaker 1: he's coming from here, particularly because of what happened when

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Speaker 1: he was such a young boy. Yes, he lost his

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Speaker 1: mother at a young age, and for people who don't know,

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Speaker 1: I actually lost my father at a very young age.

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Speaker 1: And I think the difference between the two of us

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Speaker 1: is I had a chance to process it through my life.

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Speaker 1: I could talk to people and ask questions. Where being

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Speaker 1: It happened, we do not discuss, And so I think

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Speaker 1: that's what's so difficult. And if you think about it,

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Speaker 1: the royal family is kind of built. You have to

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Speaker 1: have someone die unless they abdicate the throne, for somebody

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Speaker 1: to become your new royal leader. So every time there's

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Speaker 1: a death. So maybe he's onto something. Yeah, I never

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Speaker 1: thought about that mistake so small. Literally, to get the job,

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Speaker 1: someone has to die. It's not like Survivor where you

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Speaker 1: vote them off. They have to die. It's the cruelist

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Speaker 1: the following I thought it was so interesting. Windsor Castle,

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Speaker 1: with his ancestors. If you go there, these are really

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Speaker 1: Prince Harry and the eyes follow you when you go.

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Speaker 1: When you look at him, they stare a straight but

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Speaker 1: to them like it's bizarre. And in the book he

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Speaker 1: done all the headlines, we've done all the drama in

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Speaker 1: the book, and we're going to do more today, don't worry.

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Speaker 1: But the part of the book that I really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: is when he comes across as a human being. He's

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Speaker 1: and it's all so weird. It's just all so strange,

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Speaker 1: but that was his life, which is why he's calling

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Speaker 1: tomb that's nothing. Doesn't sound very homely, does it? I

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Speaker 1: like like a big sofa, misty and pillows. You're houses

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Speaker 1: feels really really cute. It's like lots of pillars, lots

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Speaker 1: of cushions. It's lovely. So I question, Poul. Question of

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Speaker 1: the days is Harry Wright? Is the Royal family a

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Speaker 1: quote death cult? Go vote on our Twitter page at

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Speaker 1: check back tomorrow. What's here? Your results? Same? Misty? What

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Speaker 1: are you working on that? Okay? So now this isn't

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Speaker 1: a lesson, and why you have to use your words

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Speaker 1: very carefully because Prince Henry is getting He's under fire

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Speaker 1: now for denying that he called the Royals racist and

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Speaker 1: his bomb shall interview with Oprah Winfrey back in two

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Speaker 1: So basically what we're saying here is, yes, there was

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Speaker 1: where it ended up. Well, you know, everybody is entitled

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Speaker 1: There is always perceptions of how something would happen now,

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Speaker 1: to try to solve the family problems. So that's where

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Speaker 1: the complications lie. It's a shame that she can't be here.

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Speaker 1: And that's what this book is really about, everybody. It's

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Speaker 1: about being the spare. That's why the title is spare.

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Speaker 1: naughty but nice. I'm not sure that with our dear friend, Mr. Hey,

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