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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and now your host, Kyle Yeoman's. Today is Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: March eighth, twenty twenty three. We are a clean and

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Speaker 1: even fifty days out from the NFL Draft in Kansas City, Missouri.

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Speaker 1: As we are now underneath the half century mark, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back at the Star in Frisco and the s WBC

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Speaker 1: studios with the entire crew. Bobby Belt, Zach Walchuck, Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us Aisha Boris, and I'm Kyle Yeoman's everybody, how

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Speaker 1: are we doing? Doing great? Being great? I really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: you guys. Uh Zack and I were on local we

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Speaker 1: were having to do baseball coverage this past week. You

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Speaker 1: guys did a heck of a job from the combine.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, really really good job Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Bobby covering it for a one oh five three of

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Speaker 1: the fan uh super Information super Interviews, you guys did

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Speaker 1: uh you know with Will McClay. I was listening to

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Speaker 1: that one the other day. If he can't go back

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Speaker 1: and listen to that. It gives you, you, guys, ask

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Speaker 1: some great questions, gave you some great insight of really

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Speaker 1: how they're looking at these players coming up. I think

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Speaker 1: it was really really well done on your guys part.

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Speaker 1: Had some big time. Fomo was listening to it all

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Speaker 1: the way back the fight. Yeah, you got question. Really

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Speaker 1: did well and I had Fomo and spring training. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm a base pay I know you are. We if

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Speaker 1: we could have been in both places at the same time,

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Speaker 1: get teleportation down at something himself, because you're not a

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Speaker 1: na of them. My body still recovered from Dunalton. If

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Speaker 1: we could beat two places at once, well fair never

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Speaker 1: fair enough. I'm right back in the basketball mode too,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it works out. Bobby, how was your combine?

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Speaker 1: It was great. It was way too brief. I learned,

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Speaker 1: you I've been going way too hard four nights in

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Speaker 1: Then you go, okay, I guess we'll get coffee in

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Speaker 1: the morning or something. So but it was it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a good trip. I just need to get

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Speaker 1: there earlier next year, Brian. We need to lobby to

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Speaker 1: get you there. Next year, we're gonna pound the table.

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Speaker 1: Let's say baseball. Like thirty years of my life was

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Speaker 1: spent at that place, some guys. I'm glad you guys

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Speaker 1: At one point I was like, this is supposed to connect,

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Speaker 1: and it didn't. It didn't. It's okay. Brian and I

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Speaker 1: get Toad. Yeah, that was something I talked about on

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Speaker 1: the air. I thought I was gonna get Toad from

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Speaker 1: DFW because I parked in one hour parking for a

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Speaker 1: whole weekend. What, Yeah, didn't happen. It wasn't. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: clear that I wasn't supposed to be there. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get towed, But you didn't get toad. You're fine, No,

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Speaker 1: it's here. It didn't get stole. I parked in one

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Speaker 1: Next year the goal is to get everybody. The combine

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Speaker 1: sounds Goodbody was there? Aisha killed it. We had Patrick

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Speaker 1: set up the draft show. Everybody was phenomenal. Late, stayed

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Speaker 1: the back. So let's talk about the combine. Who who

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Speaker 1: little higher on Roderick Jones than I was initially. Okay,

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Speaker 1: holy lye cow. I mean I had him eleven offensive lineman. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So I tweeted that. I tweeted that I thought this

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Speaker 1: There are people scouts across the league who will tell

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Speaker 1: pronouncing it wrong. So who knows did he say used

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Speaker 1: Stevenson from Miami. Same thing. You know, you see you

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Speaker 1: what Bobby's talking about our scouts saying, Man, this kid Washington,

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Speaker 1: you could play him at you know, you could play

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Speaker 1: him at tackle. He would be a good tackle. We

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Speaker 1: that position switch. All right, here we go. I've got

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Speaker 1: a I've got a pronunciation here ready, Cody mouk? It

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Speaker 1: is mauk. How about that? Thank goodness, I got nervous.

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Speaker 1: Am I about to get dunked on? Here? What's going on? No?

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Speaker 1: Good job? Well done, dude. All right, so i'd players

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Speaker 1: We've mentioned Cody Mount. Now I'm gonna have to say

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Speaker 1: Darnell Washington, did any of these quarterbacks surprise you a

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Speaker 1: little bit? And what they're able to do? I mention

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Speaker 1: really did give him problems. Yeah, I think it's interesting

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Speaker 1: because you talk about the tape, you talk about the workouts.

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Speaker 1: to marry him fifty fifty. You have to marry him

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Speaker 1: eighty twenty. The good teams find the right balance, and

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Speaker 1: which is pretty heavy. They do. They do care about

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Speaker 1: here has figured out that to take the second best

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Speaker 1: player on the board. If you have to feel like

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Speaker 1: all of sense, like, oh do I take the fifth

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Speaker 1: I think they figured out to take the second best

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Speaker 1: guard and then work the draft from there. That's why

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Speaker 1: I don't think that they're you know, they got to

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Speaker 1: the way their board falls, they're like, take that guy,

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Speaker 1: take that guy, and then they work from there, instead

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Speaker 1: of saying, well, okay, the second best guards on the board,

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Speaker 1: to have this defenseive end. Oh he's the sixth best

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Speaker 1: defensive end. Because they're picking at twenty six or twenty

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Speaker 1: seven down in the bottom, you know, they figured out,

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Speaker 1: let's just start the draft taking the best player and

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Speaker 1: then we'll work from there. I think it's a great

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Speaker 1: plan that they have. I really do. That makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense because then you're not pigeonholing yourself. You're

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Speaker 1: not and you're getting you're starting your draft off the

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Speaker 1: right way, and you're not chasing it by oh wow,

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Speaker 1: this guy graded so well, but we're gonna take the

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Speaker 1: does you any good. Now, that's a really good point.

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Speaker 1: You've seen that the last couple of years. All right,

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Speaker 1: when we come back, it's starting for a little Twitter.

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Speaker 1: that the other years. I love it is out. I

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Speaker 1: of the conversations we have with Will McClay and Endy

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Speaker 1: he talked about biases. Yeah, when watching film surrounding by

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Speaker 1: a certain position, he didn't like the fact that he

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Speaker 1: you're out. That's the bias. He's had to kind of

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Speaker 1: suppress some of that throughout his career. What are some

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Speaker 1: of your biases, Brian Brandon asked you specifically, But I

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Speaker 1: want to hear from the group because we all watched

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Speaker 1: the table. We all have the fun with it. Brian

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Speaker 1: will let you start. If you're a bias, If you're

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Speaker 1: a clapper after every play, if you're clapping, you're a

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Speaker 1: bad player. I'm just saying that because clappers are usually

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Speaker 1: They're like that. You know, And I can tell you

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Speaker 1: every time it's done, it's like it's a big play,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a thirty yard pass, and then you

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Speaker 1: else's tackling, and he seemed clapping. That's something Bobby reminded me.

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Speaker 1: One one more two is my my weak offensive tackles

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Speaker 1: what's my guy with the raiderton, Milton Miller another one.

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Speaker 1: You know I've been You weren't the only one biased

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Speaker 1: against Colton Miller. That was a lot of people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying though the week. The clapper

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Speaker 1: So it sounds like, at least in the Will McClay mindset,

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you're willing to do that for the

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Speaker 1: strong offensive tackles. Are they're not so strong offen Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: clappers out, that's a deal I need. I need to

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Speaker 1: I need to rethink the weak offensive tackle one. But

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Speaker 1: the clapper that that is my trying true right there.

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Speaker 1: Our next homework assignment as a group is to find

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Speaker 1: a clapper in this draft. Watch there's you. We'll be watching,

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Speaker 1: You'll be watching tape and you'll go and it happens

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Speaker 1: the later you get in the draft and start making

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Speaker 1: when you when you start getting at fifth, sixth, seventh round. Guy,

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Speaker 1: A lot of clapping going on basketball court because I

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Speaker 1: Do you have any biases? No, I don't have any

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Speaker 1: bond now. The one bias that I have, maybe that

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Speaker 1: you could say, is I hate the pile jumpers, the

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Speaker 1: guys that I mean. Maybe you're around the football. You know,

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Speaker 1: you read the play, okay, and then next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like I didn't actually make the play, but I

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Speaker 1: want to be seen. Maybe I can get credit for

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Speaker 1: half a tackle, and I'm just gonna I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 1: my body in there. I'm gonna jump in. Hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: part of this thing. I'm gang tackling with you boys.

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Speaker 1: I'm in here. But realistically, you didn't make the bleep

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Speaker 1: in play. So when Brian just gave his examples, do

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Speaker 1: you have any examples of what description? I'm just asking

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Speaker 1: to play here. You know who's a good example that

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Speaker 1: don't talk about Bob Lilly that way. He was the

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Speaker 1: pile Mike Morris from Michigan. Oh, Mike Morris from Michigan.

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Speaker 1: It's the dude that you want off the bus to

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Speaker 1: lead the team off the squad, Like, damn, that guy

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Speaker 1: looks he's not good. He's going to Las Vegas. He

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Speaker 1: is not good. He's like, I'm not gonna do anything.

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Speaker 1: I'm not productive. But every once in a while, like

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Speaker 1: I'll jump in there. Hey, look at me. I was

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Speaker 1: part of this. Mike Morris is one of those guys

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Speaker 1: from me. Wow, looks the part. Did you have an example,

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Speaker 1: Bobby of the pile jump. Sure, no, it wasn't my standard.

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Speaker 1: It's is I was asking, do you have any bias?

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Speaker 1: the actual scouting bias. So I'll give both. Uh. The

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Speaker 1: too many times by big, stiff receivers treadwell and guys

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Speaker 1: like that that. I was like, oh, they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: chase if I see if I see the receiver that

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Speaker 1: he's just clearly above everybody else, Like in high I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this isn't gonna play out well, and so I'm against that.

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Speaker 1: That's a physicality one the body language one. Any quarterback

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Speaker 1: what do we gotta do here? Whenever I see that,

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Speaker 1: I'm like ear soft, but like, and it's a bias.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not necessarily always no, but I mean it's

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Speaker 1: But when I see it at the college level, I'm

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Speaker 1: But he like was not me. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: real like on film biases, especially on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, is motor because what else do you

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Speaker 1: of the few things. It's like, even if they're not

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Speaker 1: be involved in the play. I know it's not fair whatever,

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Speaker 1: Blake Freeland from b YU have real bad Why are

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00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: you always smiling? Listen that grin off your face? Nah,

635
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: I saw positions. I don't want you smiling. You ain't

636
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be nice. No, it's probably nice. They're not lacking, nasty,

637
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: not wrong. There's some there's some people that I'd be like,

638
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: stop cheessing at him. I mean, you just want to

639
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: get rid of all by players if that, because they

640
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: all are smiling at all times, even at the combine

641
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: like he was just I mean, he was killing it.

642
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: But his game doesn't mimic that either. Yeah, So that's like,

643
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be cheessing at people and stuff, at

644
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: least be a little disrespectful in your play. These are

645
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: all really good, like all all sports. I'm sorry, great

646
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: question the motor, but who's a big smiler who breaks

647
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: that in the league? And I'm trying to think of

648
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: who's a big smile guy. I guess when when he

649
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: was in the league was Andrew Luck. That was the

650
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: first one where he's like, oh nice play dude, like

651
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: slap him on the butt, Like, oh thanks, dude, you

652
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: just hit me real hard. So yeah, Luck is WI

653
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: breaks that. Philip is the same way. Philip Rivers was

654
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: like that. He was talking mess but he was smiled,

655
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: but he was talking. He would get dirty though, like

656
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: he'd getting nasty of people, kind of counteracted. Andrew Luck

657
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: didn't really do that. Is that father in him? You

658
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: got an example? No, No, I was looking at Freeland

659
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: in his notes, but I didn't have anything about smiling

660
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: in there. He go back watch the player, lack of power.

661
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: He brought up the tackless Freelands making the Hall of

662
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: Fame because both of you have bias. Yeah, there's no question.

663
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: Congratulations Freeland a great career. Listen, all right, Matt asked,

664
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: did the combine make katy cowboys targets more likely or

665
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: less likely? If so, who was who would fit in

666
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: each of those categories? Bobby, I'll start with you. If

667
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: there's anybody on the mine, did they may anybody anybody

668
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: off the board or anybody's squarely on the board for Smith.

669
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: There will be people off the board because of medicals.

670
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: But the way they tested Nolan Smith, you know, if

671
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: you had him, I think it. I thought it was

672
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: going to be close. Well here here, I guess there's

673
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: the question. Are you're talking about tested their way out

674
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: of Dallas's range or changed the Cowboys perspective potentially on them?

675
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: Oh I took it as the I think the question

676
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: was asked by Matt for what Bobby's saying. But I

677
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: but I'm not against talking about what Brian saying either.

678
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: Because Nolan Smith tested out of reach for Dallas. I

679
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: think because of the way that he did. Think what

680
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: he did in Indianapolis running a four three ninety fastest

681
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: by a defensive linean out of the entire group and

682
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: one of the fastest Smith and Jig but might have too.

683
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna go with Jackson. Jackson, I think that

684
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: that's the guy. I was surprised to even see him

685
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: kind of being mocked around the Cowboys range. I think

686
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: he's a guy that should be a topic you feel like.

687
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: I feel like the guy the receiver that you might

688
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: be looking at. If a first round receiver on my

689
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 1: board might be Johnston from TCU. Okay, that might be

690
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: the guy. I think Jaddison's going to be gone. Yeah,

691
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I'm at. If you talk about

692
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: a guy awesome, I think Smith and Jibber goes up.

693
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: I think Johnston probably comes down. That's that's kind of

694
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: where Jalen Hyatt might have raised his stock too. He

695
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: was phenomenal, ran slower than a lot of people boots

696
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: on grow. A lot of people were like expecting him

697
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: to run fast really and that he was supposed to

698
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: be low for three and granted, game tape shows something

699
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: else like that's fine, whatever, he's a long strider tracking that.

700
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: But he also too had a couple of drops and

701
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: drills that people were just like, what's going on and yeah,

702
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: high it out of Tennessee. Maybe he's there at twenty six,

703
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: So to me, real quick torrents with weight loss down

704
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: to three thirty might might be something that pushes him,

705
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, if if people really they dig in on him.

706
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people had him mocked at

707
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: Dallas at twenty six, but someone might say, well give me.

708
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: People are saying Skeronsky from Northwestern's of Guard, he's gone.

709
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: You don't worry about him. But Torrence, he might be

710
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: a guy that everybody had mocked to the Cowboys. That

711
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: might be one that goes two three picks before you.

712
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: It's kind of like Kenyon Green last year. Yeah, and

713
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: n same kind of thing. Had an early thought and

714
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: then he goes at fifteen. Sure when you thought he

715
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: would fall to twenty four, one of the top guys

716
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: at a position. You're going to see those guys go early,

717
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: and then those wide receivers too. Bobby mentioned sir, I'm sorry,

718
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, goad bad. But Bobby mentioned Rashi Rice

719
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: like his forty his split time being better. I'm sorry,

720
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: I probably should have got the exact number of but

721
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: his split time being better than what people expected. He

722
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: showed some explosiveness off of the line like that. I

723
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: think is going to help him because we worry about

724
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: the separation and stuff. So but you say, would you

725
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: being this explosive off the line, we can refine your

726
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: route running a little bit more than he might be

727
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: a problem. Also to being in the DFW area. I

728
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: feel like he might have upticked a little bit of

729
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: people looking at him. Give now. He tested one four

730
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: nine ten split on a four five one forty, So

731
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: he's got that exploit. His vertical was good. Dig in.

732
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: I was trying. I was having trouble thinking about it.

733
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: I was like, was there anybody who athletic testing wise?

734
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: I think just that maybe would have been of interest

735
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: to them, that maybe the testing didn't hit the right

736
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: parameters and I wasn't thinking of. And then Sanders Kashaw Boutet,

737
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: ok they do like explode, They like more explosive type receivers.

738
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: The ten year it split there was one five eight.

739
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: The vertical is twenty nine inches. I mean that's not

740
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: nine inch vertical on Boutet. I think would be tough

741
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: for them to go. So if you're talking about somebody

742
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: who got their way out of their attention, probably Boute Yeah.

743
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 1: That makes a lot of mems from Oklahoma come back

744
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: into play for them because of the testing, because the testing,

745
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: but the size, the height, I mean, he was a guy.

746
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have to figure out all these

747
00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: flowers from you know, flowers boss in college downs North Carolina,

748
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: Mems Oklahoma. Tell me when you guys figure these receivers out,

749
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: these slight receivers, just please let me know and I'll

750
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: I'll trust you question. The question with mems is do

751
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: they just again it's not about size to them so

752
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: much as do they think he can can do other things,

753
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: live outside or does he have to be in the slot.

754
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: If they think he can do more than inside the slot,

755
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: than yeah, I think he's he's and I would I'd

756
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: guess they think he could play outside some and so

757
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he'd be off the boar for them.

758
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: He ran faster than I know. There were people keenly

759
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: aware of his training that thought he was going to

760
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: run four four nine five. For him here at four

761
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: three eight, that's awesome, and so there there was. He

762
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: was a surprise I think in terms of and even

763
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: still for people who were more optimists about him, I

764
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: think they thought low four four so fro him to

765
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: come at four three eight I think was huge him well,

766
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: and he's a guy when when you hear Mike McCarthy

767
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: talk about what they want its offense to do, you know,

768
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: quick reads, where we're gonna get the ball out quick,

769
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 1: just get him in space, put the ball in his hands.

770
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: And Marvin Mims is a guy that can go and

771
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: get you that yack after the catch. And I think

772
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: Marvin would fit this offense very very well. He could

773
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: be a contested catch guy too. He is. He's got

774
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: great body control, goes up high points to football. He

775
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: makes some dazzling plays when you watch him in Oklahoma.

776
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: I will say on Hyatt, even though he didn't run

777
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: as fast as people thought, it may have been a

778
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: bad training day or something like that. I don't know, um,

779
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: but I was down there Friday night watching him work

780
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: out get ready for the Saturday run. That's the first

781
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: guy that I've watched run and trained that he literally

782
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: looked blurry when he would run. He is, so I

783
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: think I was stunned. It was just I think because

784
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: when I watched him run that back end of his

785
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: his run, it just he literally looks like a blur

786
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: when he runs. It's insane. The only guys I have

787
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: above Hyatt or Flowers, Johnston, Addison and Smith and Jigba,

788
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: and not in that order. It's actually reversed Smith and

789
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: Jigba first a good eye. I'm right there with you, boy.

790
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: I think Johnston came in much lighter than were expecting.

791
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: Is that because what did he come in at? He

792
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: was at one in at two o eight. Okay, he

793
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: was at one at least on the website print when

794
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: Johnson was two fifteen. Oh what am I looking at? Then?

795
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know here, I know where my numbers are wrong.

796
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: Quinn Quentinn Johnston, I know I've got his ear before.

797
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: People thought he was going to be around two fifteen,

798
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: and it's just he's he came he came in at

799
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: two o eight um, and I don't know. It'll be

800
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: interesting to see where he weighs at at the end

801
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: of the month when they have pro day for TC.

802
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see what his weights out then.

803
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: But there's I was talking to one person in Indy

804
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: this week and they were talking about Quentin Johnston's play

805
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: string and uh they went like this, and then they

806
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: hold up there and I was like, what is that

807
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: and they're like that's his arm. Yeah, like he just

808
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: doesn't have any bolt. Oh interesting, real real quick. They

809
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: want to get one more question in here before we

810
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: get going, Kyle asked, and no, it's not me. Kyle

811
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: Whitchman asked, would you draft Andrew Voorhees out of USC

812
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: guy offensive, I'm in towards ACL in the middle of

813
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: the testing, in the middle of the workout, would you

814
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: draft him and where would you draft him? As the

815
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: question if you're the Cowboys. He's a guy that was

816
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: a thought to be maybe a top one hundred pick

817
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman, somebody that could maybe be a project

818
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: moving forward. But he's coming off of now a torn

819
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: acl Do you think he would fit in that that

820
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: sort of conversation, You get those compensatory picks, and they

821
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: did it with Bruce Carter right, sure did. Yeah, this

822
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: team has a history of taking players and trying to

823
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: kind of stash him and try and get him ready. Um,

824
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's always a possibility with that,

825
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: especially like I say, with the compensatory picks, you know,

826
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: to maybe say, okay, well, hey this is a guy

827
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: that we we you know, I personally, if we're gonna

828
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: stash somebody, I would do it with the Tennessee quarterbacks

829
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: who I would do it. And Hooker that's who I

830
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: would stash. I like that idea. Yeah, you know, to me,

831
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: if you know, if you're gonna if but I was

832
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: talking with Dane Burglar driving over this morning, and you know,

833
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: there's there's something and Zach and I real quick, Zach

834
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: and I did a segment yesterday on the on the

835
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: syndrome with older quarterbacks, the brock Purty syndrome, right where

836
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: teams are looking at give me the quarterbacks that have

837
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: played a ton of snaps. Give me the quarterbacks that

838
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: might be a little older. All these quarterbacks might be

839
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: a little older because of what we did in the

840
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: pandemic and the NCAA giving everybody another year, and guy's

841
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: taking advantage of that. You know, Hendon Hooker is gonna

842
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: be what twenty seven years old by the time you

843
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: get him playing. But why do I feel like that's okay?

844
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm okay with that. But I if you're gonna,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna let me take a guy and stash

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Speaker 1: him and try and get him healthy. I think I'm

847
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Speaker 1: looking at that quarterback from Tennessee. It's such a calmness

848
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: to his game that, Yeah, I'm a big fan of

849
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker, but he's played a ton of snaps. Injury again,

850
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: get hurt in the South Carolina game late in the year,

851
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: and it you know, he's They say he might be

852
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: ready for training camp, and are for the training camp

853
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: or parts of it. But you know these guys Britt

854
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Speaker 1: Brown in them. They take these guys and put them

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Speaker 1: back together in a nice way. And I would I

856
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: would gamble more on him than I would maybe that

857
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: offensive lineman if it was me. Yeah, And to your point,

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00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw this past year how many backup

859
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks had to play this year, about sixty two. I

860
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: think it wants to have a guy that has had

861
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Speaker 1: time and is almost ready to come in and be

862
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: an immediate you know, like filler in that position. I

863
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: guess that does make sense there. Yeah, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: take our second break. When we come back, we're gonna

865
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: talk tight ends. There's a lot of tight end talk

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Speaker 1: in draft Twitter right now, Cowboys Twitter right now, Is

867
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Speaker 1: it okay to take a look at some of these

868
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: tight ends at pick number twenty six. We'll answer that

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Speaker 1: brought us Bobby Belt, Aisha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeoman's there

912
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Speaker 1: was this tweet I saw yesterday just popped up and

913
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: it wasn't the only tweet. There were just a couple

914
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: of them surrounded. This comes from one Zach Waltchuck and

915
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: the tweets said, Okay, sucks, I can't stay out that

916
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: harsh Why are you even reading his tweets? Tight end

917
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: one Dalton Kincaid being mocked to the Cowboys melky So

918
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid out of Utah. We've already talked about Darnell

919
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: Washington on Georgia. We've we've spoken on tight ends quite

920
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: a bit on this show, mostly with the thought of

921
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: it being at fifty eight, maybe second round, third round,

922
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: fourth round guys, especially with Dalton Schultz departing. Now it's

923
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: all of a sudden looking like it's a first round

924
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: conversation too. Would that be something that the Cowboys should

925
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: look into? And I know your answer, Zach, but anybody

926
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: else opposed to that for the most part post to

927
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: picking a tight app Yeah, no, I'm not opposed to,

928
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: not at all. Not any Look, I've also got to

929
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: the point where I just we've had so many instances

930
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: of our natural inclinations that we don't like about certain

931
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: things that how the Cowboys will approach a draft weekend,

932
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: that have over time proved us wrong, whether it be

933
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith or Layton vander esh or guys like that.

934
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: That not that they're infallible, but I'm willing to give

935
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: them the benefit of the doubt on some things. And

936
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: even with that said, I don't have a problem. So

937
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if they think tight ends the pick, then

938
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: I'll be like, Okay, this will probably be a good player.

939
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: But specifically, I think you just need a dynamic weapon.

940
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: So if it's a dynamic tight end or it's a

941
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: dynamic receiver, I don't care. Just if you whatever you

942
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: think is going to be the most explosive weapon, the

943
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: biggest mismatch you can have. And in this day and age,

944
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: you talk to a lot of people and they'll tell you, like,

945
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: a really dynamic tight end is one of the hardest

946
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: things to cover in terms of opposing defenses. It's one

947
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: of the hardest mismatches you can get. So if they

948
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: spot that guy in the first, second round, whatever it is,

949
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: and they think, yeah, we can take a shot on

950
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: this guy and he'll be a good match for us,

951
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: a good match against defenses, then absolutely go do it.

952
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: Okay that makes me feel a little bit better, bro, Yeah,

953
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: I think that to me the little bit the difficulty

954
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: I know, with me, there's more certainty with the tight

955
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: end position than there is with the wide receiver position.

956
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: And I got on the soapbox earlier and was talking

957
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: about if you guys figure out the slight wide receivers,

958
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: the undersized guys, if you figured out how these guys

959
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: are all gonna play or how they're going to fit in, I,

960
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, please let me know on this, because that's

961
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: something that might be something I'm struggling with right now

962
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I feel like I have a

963
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: pretty good understanding of these tight ends. You know, when

964
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: when you start to talk about the Notre Dame Kid Mayor, right,

965
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about Mayor, when you talk

966
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: about Kincaid from Utah, you know, Musgrave from Oregon State,

967
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: and even you know, you know Tucker Kraft from South

968
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: Dakota State. I feel like I have a feeling about

969
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: these guys. And I think, to Bobby's point, is that

970
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: just give me the weapon. You know the fact that

971
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: the fact that that Jerry Jones sat on that bus

972
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: and told us and he started talking about Kelsey. But

973
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: here they had Dalton Schultz, you know, and now it's

974
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: like we're moving on from Dalton Schultz. We've got to

975
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: do better and they've got you know, with Hendershot and Ferguson,

976
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: they've got some really good tight ends. But if you

977
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: add another one, if you add a Dalton Kincaid to

978
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: the position or to the group, how much better does

979
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: that make you? Does that make it better? You know?

980
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean we heck, I felt like I felt like

981
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: told was going to be a really I was gonna

982
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: come in and be a good player for them. You know.

983
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: I have a feeling whoever, if they draft whoever this

984
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver is or this tight end, this guy needs

985
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: to be plug and play. There doesn't need to be

986
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: any like, oh, we're thinking about how we're going to

987
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: use them now if it's Dalton Kincaid or mayor when

988
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: those guys put them on the field and let them go. Yeah,

989
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: because that's they've proven to me that they're more consistent

990
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: as players than what I'm seeing at some of these

991
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: wide receivers. And I think those are day one impact guys.

992
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: And we've seen Dak Prescott likes to go to tight

993
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: end and the pushback is okay, well, you've got Jake Ferguson.

994
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: Do you do you not like Fergie? Well, now I do.

995
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: I think Ferguson's a really good player. I was very

996
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: high on him coming out of Wisconsin. But wasn't it

997
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: exciting last year when you see some twelve and thirteen

998
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: personnel and the Cowboys are using multiple tight ends? To me,

999
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: there might not be a better matchup nightmare in the

1000
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: NFL than when you have a plus tight end on

1001
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: your team. And if you're able to have multiple of

1002
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: those guys, let's go out and let's line up and

1003
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: let's have some fun, and you have a special tight

1004
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: end class. And to me, at twenty six, you might

1005
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: get wiped out at receiver. We were just talking about that.

1006
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: You might not have an offensive lineman like an Osiris

1007
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: Torrance or one of these tackles fall to you. It's

1008
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: very possible that the best player on the board is

1009
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: a tight end and that player is gonna help Dak Prescott.

1010
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: And if it's Dalton Kincaid, who you watch it against USC,

1011
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: they can't guard him. They know he's getting the football,

1012
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: the kid out of Utah, and all he does is

1013
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: catch everything thrown at him. He's able to stretch the

1014
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: field via the seam. And to me, I mean he's

1015
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: a playmaker. You know, he's got a wide catch radius.

1016
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: Same with may Or. They call him baby gronk out,

1017
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: a Notre dame. These are these are weapons that the Cowboys,

1018
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: even with Jason Witten, you know, an elite talent, maybe

1019
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame player, but these guys have a

1020
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: different kind of athletic profile and upside that we haven't

1021
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: seen for a long time. Do you think that's the

1022
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: case with Mayor? Mayor that Mayor to me is the

1023
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: tight end of you know, yesteryear, which which I mean

1024
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: he's still very good now. I think he'll be successful.

1025
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: But to me, in terms of stretching the field and

1026
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: being a really difficult mismatch, I don't know that. Mayor.

1027
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: I think he's a contested player, and I mean contested

1028
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: catch guy in traffic and I like that. I like

1029
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: the way the drag you see him down on the

1030
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: goal line in the red zone and stuff like that.

1031
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: He's a super super productive guy. And the thing I

1032
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: could say, I think you could use him in both ways.

1033
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: I think he could play in line next to the tackle.

1034
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: I think you can move him and play him in

1035
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: flex on the outside, and I think he's gonna be fine.

1036
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: Give me a guy that's gonna line up in a

1037
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: lot of different spots. Now six to five. I mean,

1038
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: I'm I know, I don't have I mean, I need

1039
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: to pull up his his combine measurement. But I was

1040
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: working off six five two sixty five, you know, and

1041
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: then it's four and a half to forty nine. Okay. See,

1042
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: so he's lost he's lost some he's lost some weight,

1043
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: and they ran a four to seven. Yeah to me.

1044
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: To me, I feel like though that when you look

1045
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: at him, I always think like when these kids go

1046
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: like for their pro days at their schools, they're probably

1047
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: gonna run better. But man, there's just too much. I mean,

1048
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: the reach, the extension, all this stuff about Mayor I

1049
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: think is really really positive. I'm with you. I mean,

1050
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: he's a guy that moves all over. They line him

1051
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: up outside, they line him up inside on the slot,

1052
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: and he'll beat corners. So I mean, to your point,

1053
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he moves as well as Musgrave out

1054
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: of Oregon State or Dalton Kincaid out of Utah. I

1055
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: think those guys are a little bit more smooth than

1056
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: the open field. But I'm a fan of a guy

1057
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: like Michael Mayor and he's a good in line blocker. Yeah,

1058
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: what do you think? Well, I mean I talking about

1059
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: the tight end position, like you look at a guy

1060
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: like Paying Durham from Purdue. I remember, I actually got

1061
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: to talk to him and he just spoke about just

1062
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: the emphasis on working on his hands, working on that

1063
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: because he is known as like that block and gritty guy.

1064
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: But he understood, hey, man, I gotta add this to

1065
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: my repertoire. I gotta add this to my game. So

1066
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: it kind of lets you know it's where the game

1067
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: is going. But I wanted to add to the list

1068
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: of tight ends that I think out they tell a

1069
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: little bit. I think Zach Kuntz from Old Dominion really

1070
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: showed some explosiveness and stuff that people didn't think. I

1071
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: mean his forty it was an official for four five five,

1072
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: I think, but he looked like he was way faster

1073
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 1: than that. And so he's also his his condred was good.

1074
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: I feel like he really shows some people like, nah,

1075
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: I'm I got some explosiveness to me, I got some

1076
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: other parts of my game to me, And I think

1077
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: that he's going to get some people's attention as well

1078
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: moving forward, Yeah, what do you think about somebody outside

1079
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: of Kincaid and Mayor? Do you think Washington's in that category?

1080
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Because right now Mayor from Notre Dame, Kincaid from Utah,

1081
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: those are my two guys I'm okay with being in

1082
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: twenty six. Those are my two guys. Outside of that,

1083
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: I will wait because I don't want to push it.

1084
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: I kind of like Schoonmaker from Michigan would be my

1085
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: next guy that I mean, and and and if you're

1086
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: talking about if you're not getting one of the top

1087
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: guys Luke Schoonmaker from from Michigan is I think this guy,

1088
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, he plays really well on his feet, fit drive.

1089
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: They'll run the ball behind him, you know. And that's

1090
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: the one thing Michigan do. They will line up and

1091
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: play football in a phone booth and just slam the

1092
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: ball at you. And I I like the fact some

1093
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: of these tight ends you see they put him on

1094
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: the back side and they don't they just they're cut

1095
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: off guys, cut off guys. But they run the ball

1096
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: behind this guy. I think that him you could put

1097
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: him as a point of attack blocker. But you could

1098
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: even flex this guy and He's a good route runner

1099
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: and he could get up the field. He doesn't labor,

1100
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: he's smooth, and he catches the football. So if you're

1101
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: not getting an opportunity at one of those top guys,

1102
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: the Michigan Kids, Schoonmaker for me is a guy that

1103
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: I would surely consider, Okay, anybody else outside of that.

1104
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: I mean, so you wouldn't have Musgrave as a guy

1105
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: he'd like at twenty six. Probably not. He would be close. Yeah,

1106
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: I've got Mayor above him. I've got Kincaid Mayor, and

1107
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: then I actually have Musgrave, Laportza, then darnel Way. I

1108
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: think King Kaid and Musgrave are the two guys who

1109
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: are the type of modern tight end that present a

1110
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: lot of mismatches. And specifically with Musgrave, I think his

1111
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: footwork looks like a receiver to me, which is that

1112
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: knee intrigued though, I mean, you're gonna have to check

1113
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: that he was cleared. Yeah, that's good that the chatter

1114
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: out of Combine was that he got cleared. And so

1115
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: you're not wrong about the kids. It's a smooth runner, now,

1116
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: that is a smooth route. He is huge in Tucker Craft.

1117
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: You mentioned him, Brian, Yeah, big fan. He's moldiple. I

1118
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: describe him as moldiple. I think he can do a

1119
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: little bit of everything, but he's also he's just difficult

1120
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 1: to tackle. His vision is good because of the running

1121
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: back background and stuff. So if you get him on

1122
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: your team, if you got a good coach, you can

1123
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: make some money with him. I think Greeding, Yeah, I

1124
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: think he could be a steal. It could be fun

1125
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: to watch. I think either way, you're going to see

1126
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: a tight end drafted again by the Cowboys at some

1127
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: point in Bobby says, sooner than what we are used to.

1128
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: I just think they take a pass catch or somewhere

1129
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: in the top one hundred, and whether that's a receiver

1130
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: or tight end whoever, they have grade at higher, but

1131
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: it very well could be a tight end. So I

1132
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: would not be stunned if they take a tight end

1133
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: on the top hundred. Would you, guys take Johnston? If

1134
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: I mentioned him? Would you take Johnston, the TCU wide

1135
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: receiver over a top tight end? Ooh no, why would you?

1136
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: When you when you sound like you're gonna get better,

1137
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: I need to I need to know if Johnston, Like

1138
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I need to have confidence Johnson's gonna be able to

1139
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: get off press I have. I have Kincaid is a

1140
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: better player, but I would take Johnson over Mayor. I

1141
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: would agree with that. But yeah, i'd agree with that.

1142
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: I have Johnston as as number twenty six on my

1143
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: board right now, and this is all going to change

1144
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: between now and draft day, of course, but I have

1145
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: twenty six is Johnston, twenty five is Kincaid, and then

1146
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: I've got Mayor at twenty eight. So they're all right there,

1147
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: jumbled together. But I would have exactly what Zack just said.

1148
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: I think that where does reports have follow on your board?

1149
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: Because he tested well? But then also Dane had a

1150
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: lot of good stuff to say about him. Yeah, he's

1151
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: a top thirty five player on my report. I think

1152
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: when I watched him, I think he was really hurt

1153
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: by his offense. Yes, well, I'm about to say, like

1154
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people were hard on him because of

1155
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: the drops and stuff, and I said, well, when you

1156
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: got it, you got it. That's why you gotta take

1157
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: a look start looking at Okay, we'll look at the

1158
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 1: Iowa offense right, look at how play horrible, play calling terrible,

1159
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 1: and he showed when the balls delivered to him well

1160
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: and stuff at as I thought. He's one of the

1161
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: few guys that I felt like, Yeah, the testing helped him.

1162
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: It helped him adding it to the film and making

1163
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: sense of things. So what are you? What does he

1164
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 1: fall for, y'all? I think it's the top thirty five player.

1165
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: I've got, I've got I've got him, I've got Musgrave, Kincaid, Assume, Mayor, Musgrave, Mayor, Kincaid, Musgrave, Washington, Laporta.

1166
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: That's how I have the tight ends on my board. Yeah,

1167
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: I have a craft ahead of Laporta. Do you Yeah, Okay,

1168
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: that's not out of the question. It's not no, not

1169
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: at all. It's all right, good show, everybody. We'll be

1170
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: back tomorrow. I will not be back tomorrow. Something about that.

1171
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna have Brian in the host chair tomorrow. Ready

1172
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: for the fire kids. He'll be back next Wednesday. We'll

1173
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: have some fun. But that does it for us. Today

1174
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: on The Draft Show presented by Miller, light for Chris

1175
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: Beam in the back, Bobby Belt, Zach Wilchuck, Brian brought

1176
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: us in Aisha Morris and I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long,

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00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow. With more of the Draft Show.

1178
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