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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Early Heisman favorites announced. This is one of those years

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Speaker 2: where nobody has really stood out.

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Speaker 3: It is wide open.

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Speaker 2: John Matteer of Oklahoma right now is your clubhouse leader,

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Speaker 2: followed by Carson Beck, Dante Moore, Garrett Nussmeyer, Jeremiah Smith,

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Speaker 2: Gunner Stockton, Marcel Reid, Julian Sayin, Joey Aguilar, and then

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Speaker 2: you get down to Arch Manning and Leonoris Sellers. Right now,

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Speaker 2: nobody has really stood out.

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Speaker 3: But what you need.

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Speaker 2: It feels like it's formulaic. You got to have at

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Speaker 2: least one of those nationally televised games, almost a standalone

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Speaker 2: game where you stand out and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: people go, did you see that last night? That's what happens.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Doug Flutey won the Heisman. He won the

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Speaker 2: Heisman with one throw. He beat Miami Jimmy Johnson last

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Speaker 2: second in the Orange Bowl. He had a standalone moment.

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Speaker 2: And that's what you're looking for. You can't win it

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Speaker 2: in September. You can lose it in September, but somebody's

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Speaker 2: going to stand out. And feels like every year when

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Speaker 2: we start and we have the early favorites. I say,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you the top two and I'll take everybody

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Speaker 2: else because arch Manning. Arch Manning was the big favorite there,

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Speaker 2: and I thought, that's way too much pressure.

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Speaker 3: Is he going to stand out? How good is Texas?

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Speaker 2: They're going to lose their first game on the road,

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Speaker 2: and then here we are with arch Manning and we're

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Speaker 2: still not sure how good he is. But I'm saying

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Speaker 2: that we should be patient with him. Do I think

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Speaker 2: he's the second coming of Peyton and Eli or even

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Speaker 2: his grandfather. No, but he does have talent. The bloodlines

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Speaker 2: are there. But the pressure is enormous on him. There's

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Speaker 2: very few quarterbacks college and pros who have more pressure

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Speaker 2: on them than arch Manning does. And we heap that

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Speaker 2: praise on him. We expect him to be great. John

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Speaker 2: Mattier at Oklahoma he looks great. Oklahoma looks like they're

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Speaker 2: going to be a surprise contender this year. You usually

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Speaker 2: get a couple of guys that come out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: That's the beauty of it. Although with Travis Hunter, we

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Speaker 2: expected him to be great and he proved to be great.

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Speaker 2: Ashton Genty, he was a curiosity until you realized he

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Speaker 2: was going to get two thousand yards and they were

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Speaker 2: going to make the playoffs. That's how this works out.

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Speaker 2: That's how this plays out. And you may have, you know,

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Speaker 2: one of these players who's down the list, who comes

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Speaker 2: out of nowhere because his team comes out of nowhere

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Speaker 2: and then he plays big in a big game. All right,

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Speaker 2: Poll question Seaton, what are we going to go with today?

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Speaker 2: Ross Tucker, our good buddy will join us a little

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Speaker 2: bit later on in the program.

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Speaker 3: Poll question for hour one.

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Speaker 4: Hold on one second, let me pull up. Let me

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Speaker 4: call that up, as they say, vampily, as.

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Speaker 3: If you will, okay, vamping, vamping.

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Speaker 2: I do have the MVP odds show Heyotani overwhelming favorite

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Speaker 2: to win the MVP. He's minus ten thousand, Kyle Schwarber

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Speaker 2: is plus nineteen hundred, Aaron Judge minus nine hundred, Cayl

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Speaker 2: Rawley plus four seventy five. I know I've been making

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Speaker 2: a case for Schwarber and cal Rawley to at least

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Speaker 2: make it close. Kyl Rawley's gonna make it close. Kyle

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Speaker 2: Schwarber is not. But with the big dumper there, with

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Speaker 2: what he's done, and you got a team that's played,

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Speaker 2: I think they won ten in a row, and he's

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Speaker 2: playing the most important position as catcher, and you're hitting

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Speaker 2: fifty six home runs as a switch hitter, Aaron Judge,

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Speaker 2: I expect him to hit home runs and the Yankees

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Speaker 2: playoff chase as well being a contender show Heyo Tani.

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Speaker 2: Just the uniqueness of this, I mean, it's an oh

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Speaker 2: by the way, hit fifty home runs and then oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he had five no hit innings, Like just some

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Speaker 2: of this is oh by the way with him. But

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Speaker 2: I think with what Schwarber has done for the Phillies,

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Speaker 2: Phillies have been a good story this year as well.

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Speaker 2: And I don't want it to be that much of

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Speaker 2: a discrepancy between first and second, but you're going to

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Speaker 2: have that certainly in the National League.

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Speaker 3: All right, Setan, what do we have?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: I was trying to come up with a pole question

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Speaker 4: about hitting. We've talked a bunch about this before the show,

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Speaker 4: about getting to that sixty home run mark and how

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Speaker 4: important that is still a line of DeMarcus, Right, So

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Speaker 4: is there how valuable is hitting fifty home runs.

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Speaker 3: In a season?

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Speaker 4: Fifty is big, it's a massive number still, but it

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Speaker 4: doesn't quite carry it anymore, does it.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people have hit fifty.

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Speaker 2: It's a shorter list, a really shorter list that those

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Speaker 2: who have hit sixty. You know, Sosa did it three times,

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Speaker 2: but there's an asterisk by everything that he did bonds

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Speaker 2: the same way and wire in there. McGuire twice, Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 2: So if cal Rawley, I thought if he got to sixty,

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Speaker 2: if he got to sixty, then he might be able

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Speaker 2: to win the MV pick playing that position. And he's

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Speaker 2: a good catcher, considered better than average catcher. And then

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Speaker 2: you put in the offensive numbers there as well, certainly

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Speaker 2: the home runs for a team you know that has

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Speaker 2: been in the playoff chase the entire season. But hitting sixty,

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Speaker 2: how many guys have hit sixty? There have been five? Six, Yeah, Paul, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And if cal Raley hit sixty, he might be the

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Speaker 6: most random because he you know, he usually gets about

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Speaker 6: thirty three thirty five a year. But to player comp

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Speaker 6: with cal Raley, it might be Roger Merris. Roger Merris

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Speaker 6: won from thirty nine to sixty one, back to thirty three.

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Speaker 6: He never hit forty again.

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Speaker 2: And there's no suspicion though, you know, with cal Rawley,

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Speaker 2: my guy haven't heard. Hey, well I don't know, and

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Speaker 2: there have been players where you go, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's a big jump. But you know, Aaron Judge, you

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Speaker 2: don't hear anything. Shoe Heyo, Tani, Kyle Schwarber. So the

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Speaker 2: guys who are hitting home runs this year, there's no

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Speaker 2: cloudiest suspicion with them.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So you look at what did we say? Six

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Speaker 3: people have hit sixty home runs? Is that?

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Speaker 6: Bonds, Maguire, Sosa, Judge, Maris Ruth.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I think you know about thirty people have hit

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Speaker 4: five hundred home runs in their career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which would you rather do?

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Speaker 2: Hit sixty in a year or five hundred for a career,

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Speaker 2: five hundred for a.

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Speaker 3: Career just because of the longevity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm hitting five hundred home runs, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: Sixty in a year is more special.

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Speaker 2: It is, But I would rather have. I mean, Hank

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Speaker 2: Aaron never hit fifty home runs over no, watch hell,

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Speaker 2: you watch yourself. Yeah, I'd say five hundred. If you said,

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Speaker 2: if you said three hundred and fifty home runs or

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Speaker 2: four hundred home runs, then maybe I'd look at you know,

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Speaker 2: the hitting sixty and you had that one year and

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Speaker 2: then you came back to earth. I'd like to know

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Speaker 2: what I hit after the season, after I hit sixteen

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Speaker 3: It was always in the fifties. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: If all of a sudden, I'm hitting twenty eight and

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Speaker 2: then I'm going, eh, you know, it's like a Brady Anderson,

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Speaker 2: Luis Gonzalez. You know he had some of these guys

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Speaker 2: that's like, where did that come from? And then all

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, here's some randos that have hit fifty plus.

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Speaker 6: Jose Batista, Matt Olson, Matt Olsen, baseball player, Chris Davis.

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Speaker 2: Remember who he's a baseball player? Oh okay, and you

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Speaker 2: hit fifty home runs.

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Speaker 6: No one knows where he plays. Chris Davis, remember his

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Speaker 6: little run oriol chef cecil Field, So of course, Andrew Jones,

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Speaker 6: Johnny Mize, Brady Anderson, Albert Bell, Greg Vaughan.

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Speaker 3: In the fifte is in Vaughn.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, See, you know how you can tell we all

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Speaker 4: spend a lot of time together. The way we all

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Speaker 4: just said Orioles, like that, we all went Orioles, the

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Speaker 4: exact same tone, the exact same piece everything.

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Speaker 3: We just we might spend too much time again.

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Speaker 2: Orioles matt Olsen former a Atlanta Brave, correct baseball player.

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Speaker 6: Definitely a baseball pea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not to be confused with matt Olsen.

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Speaker 6: He was in Oakland a when they were in Oakland,

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Speaker 6: and then he went to the Braves. Yeah, but he

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Speaker 6: went fifty four, and the year before he went thirty four,

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Speaker 6: year after he went twenty nine. The Spike season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather hit five hundred home runs in sixty,

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Speaker 2: but I hope cal Rawley gets to sixty now. Then

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Speaker 2: it would be fun to at least have a little

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Speaker 2: bit of an MVP race.

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Speaker 4: Yes, s this is way less flashy than even both

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Speaker 4: of those numbers, six home runs or five hundred home runs.

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Speaker 4: But three thousand hits is still I think there's about

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Speaker 4: thirty maybe thirty five people who have done that. That's

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Speaker 4: a hell of a milestone longevity wise, But it's not

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Speaker 4: flashy at all. There's nothing sexy about three thousand hits. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but we're not going to have very many of those

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Speaker 4: guys anymore. We're gonna have guys who hit sixty home runs.

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Speaker 4: But if you look at the number of guys in

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Speaker 4: recent memory, who have eclipsed three thousand hits, and how

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Speaker 4: many guys have an opportunity to do that in the future.

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Speaker 3: Very very It's like three hundred wins as a pitcher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's not gonna happen. Yeah, it's not going

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Speaker 2: to happen. Otani with five hitless innings. Here's the problem.

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Speaker 2: The bullpen has been terrible, allowing fourteen runs, twelve hits,

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Speaker 2: five home runs, seven walks. And this is the last

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Speaker 2: twelve innings of work. Six of the seven relievers used

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Speaker 2: have allowed at least one run. Mariners have won ten

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Speaker 2: in a row and that's the longest winning streak, and

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Speaker 2: Seattle maintains a half.

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Speaker 3: Game lead over Houston and the AO West.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm hearing rumblings we might be playing the guess

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Speaker 4: the active player closest to three thousand hits game?

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Speaker 3: Oh love that game, I think.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just dropping it on you right now. Okay, okay, who.

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Speaker 6: Would like to go first?

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Speaker 3: Who's the closest to three thousand?

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Speaker 6: This gentleman's at twenty four, twenty twenty, pretty well known

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Speaker 6: player for.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Paul Goldschmidt.

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Speaker 6: No, but I'm gonna give you a blue for that,

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Speaker 6: because that's a nice guest.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you.

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Speaker 6: Goldschmid is at twenty one to eighty three. Okay, Schmitty,

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Speaker 6: as I call, no one's ever done that.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be careful, DoD anybody else have a guess.

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Speaker 6: Chritsy doesn't guess current baseball.

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Speaker 3: Player, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got somebody from the Astros. Yes, Oh, I

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Speaker 2: love Sasar said Daniel, Yes, hell.

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Speaker 3: Like a Manny Machado type.

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Speaker 6: Partial bloop. He is over two thousand.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take that. I'll take that. Marvin, you got

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Speaker 3: somebody Francisco Lindor.

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Speaker 6: No, he's he's still working his way up. Second place

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Speaker 6: is Jose Altuve of the Astros seventy nine. I'll give

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Speaker 6: you a hint. This player was very popular on the team,

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Speaker 6: and then Stunningley was sent out to a West Coast team.

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Speaker 3: Marvin Freddy Freeman.

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Speaker 6: Freddy Freeman is correct, fred Freeman, Bredo Freeman.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Alfredo Elfredo, what do you want on

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Speaker 10: Moreton DP Just following up on that Dabbo Swingey and

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Speaker 2: you Dabbo for Klin, but we want, you know, we

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Speaker 2: got to get a couple of wide receivers here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that'll happen. I mean, Clemson would be

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Speaker 2: crazy to move on from Dabo Sweeney, then I know

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Speaker 2: it's what have you done for us lately? I think

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Speaker 2: what hurt him was the philosophy of we don't take transfers.

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Speaker 2: Everybody else was taken transfers. It's almost like when Mike Krzyzewski,

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Speaker 2: you know, we don't take one and donners, and then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's like a coach k is

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Speaker 2: going to take one in Donners.

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Speaker 3: Because everybody else was.

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Speaker 2: Dabo is kind of holding firm that he did have

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Speaker 2: some transfer portal guys. But his philosophy is if we

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Speaker 2: recruit well, we do bring in a couple of transfers,

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Speaker 2: then you know we're going to be competing for a

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Speaker 2: conference championship and we'll be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Martin, I feel like Dabos Sweeney more than anyone

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Speaker 9: should be on scholarship at Clemson. Who was Clemson before you?

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Speaker 9: They were a team, they were a program that they

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Speaker 9: really wanted to be good, and they'd have a couple

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Speaker 9: of good seasons, but they weren't national championship contenders until

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Speaker 9: Dabo got there. Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrins decided to

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Speaker 9: come along.

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Speaker 2: Tom in North Carolina, Good morning, Tom, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 11: Hey, DP, I don't totally disagree with your statement of

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Speaker 11: overreacting to early losses, but I'm going to use the

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Speaker 11: MLB analogy and an NFL question to somewhat contradict that statement. Okay,

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Speaker 11: as of April fifteenth of this year that the MLB season, Pitchburgh, Colorado,

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Speaker 11: and Atlanta were all last in the division less than

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Speaker 11: twenty days in the season, and now all of those

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Speaker 11: teams are eliminated from the playoffs. So my NFL question is,

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Speaker 11: if you were a betman, would you put Todd's salary

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Speaker 11: on the line for such teams as the Bears, Carolina

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Speaker 11: and Miami or the Jets to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Well, you only have seventeen games, and baseball you have

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Speaker 2: plenty of time to make up ground. So you could

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Speaker 2: lose four games in your first six and you're not

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Speaker 2: going to make the playoffs. I mean, we're talking about

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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs right now at ozho and two.

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Speaker 2: I still think the Bears are a playoff caliber team,

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Speaker 2: but I thought that last year as well. I thought

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Speaker 2: that they were on the doorstep, just like the Lions

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Speaker 2: were a few years ago. When I said that's the

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Speaker 2: breakout team. They almost made the playoffs that year, and

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Speaker 2: then we saw what they were after that. Now, maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm totally off on the Bears and the talent they

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Speaker 2: have and Caleb Williams. Maybe I'm in the minority here,

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Speaker 2: but I got to give them a little more time.

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Speaker 2: Did I think the Jets were going to make it

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Speaker 2: to start the year, No, But I didn't think the

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Speaker 2: Pirates going to make the playoffs. Colorado was going to

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Speaker 2: make the playoffs. I don't think the Browns are making

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. I mean, we already know Carolina is not

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Speaker 2: making the playoffs. We already know this, But can you

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Speaker 2: give us a glimpse of Carolina has got a better

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Speaker 2: chance than the Pittsburgh Pirates do or the Cleveland Browns do.

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Speaker 2: Because all you need to do is you get to

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Speaker 2: nine wins. Maybe maybe you get in as a wild

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Speaker 2: card team, but you're only you got seven, you know,

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Speaker 2: so it's seventeen games you can get it. Pirates can

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Speaker 2: get a hot stretch doesn't matter, Colorado get a hot

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Because you're looking at the consistency of

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Speaker 2: a team over the course of an entire one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty two games. That's really it's easy to decide

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Speaker 2: when a team is not that good. You don't have

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Speaker 2: to wait until August or September. With the NFL, there's

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Speaker 2: always a couple of teams where you go, boy, the

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Speaker 2: they're a lot better than you think. And then next

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Speaker 2: thing you know, the Atlanta Falcons make a run. Happens

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Speaker 2: every year. Somebody's going to do that with big surprises.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I answered your question, Tom, but

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Speaker 2: it was a long winded way of saying, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Coach in four win coach in Fort Wayne High, coach.

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Speaker 12: Dan thanks were taking my call. Six foot two, two

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Speaker 12: and twenty pounds. All right, I've got a correction to

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Speaker 12: your Troy Aikman antidote there. I was actually at Oklahoma

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Speaker 12: and Barry Switzer recruited Troy and told Troy he would

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Speaker 12: change the offense for him and went ahead and tried

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Speaker 12: to put in a throwing offense. But the second game

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Speaker 12: of Troy's career, I think it was the second game,

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Speaker 12: and I believe it was the University of Miami, Troy

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Speaker 12: broke his leg. Yeah, and Jamal Holloway came in. They

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Speaker 12: switched back to the wishbone and that was all she

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Speaker 12: wrote for Troy. Barry called up his buddy over there

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Speaker 12: in UCLA, and Troy went on to greatness.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you, coach. Coach Yah broke his leg.

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Speaker 2: But they were running the football, I think with Troy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they'd totally turned it over to

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Speaker 2: an Eric Coriel offense there, but they didn't wait around

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Speaker 2: for Troy to come back because Jamel Holloway, he could run.

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Speaker 2: He could run the wishbone there the option. They always

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Speaker 2: say Thomas Lott. He was a guy of Thomas Lott

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Speaker 2: or a bandana under his helmet. Might might have been

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Speaker 2: the first player I remember doing that. Jack Mildron, I

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Speaker 2: go back in the seventies with Jack Mildern, do it. Prewitt,

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Speaker 2: Greg Prewitt. I was an Oklahoma fan. I love their offense.

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Speaker 2: Who was the UCLA head coach Terry Donahue, I think, yes,

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Speaker 2: I can see him. I think it was coach. I

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Speaker 2: think it was coach Donnie that Troy went to UCLA.

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Speaker 1: He's busy every week. He'll be in the radio booth

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night Dolphins and the Bills, and then for CBSTV

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Speaker 1: on Sunday the Colts and the Titans. He called the

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Speaker 1: Ravens last Sunday. Before I get to all of that,

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Speaker 1: I'm going back.

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Speaker 2: To an article where you were quoted this is May

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five, where you have concerns about Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: And then you were asked if you thought Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: would be in Chicago for the long haul, and you

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Speaker 2: said no, you still stand firm on your Caleb Williams take.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I guess I would say I still have some

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Speaker 13: significant concerns as it relates to Caleb Williams. And part

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Speaker 13: of that are the things I had seen. Part of

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Speaker 13: that are the things I had heard. You know. Interestingly,

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Speaker 13: since that radio interview, Tyler Dunn came out with an

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Speaker 13: article where he spoke to a lot of people that

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Speaker 13: spoke to some of the things that went on in

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Speaker 13: Chicago last year that I had heard from people. So

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Speaker 13: that was partially informed, but you know, to me, Dan,

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Speaker 13: it came down to a few things. With Caleb Williams

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Speaker 13: right number one, he got sacked a lot at USC

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Speaker 13: got sacked a lot last year. Guys don't usually fix that,

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Speaker 13: you know. I mean, they can get better at it.

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Speaker 13: But if you're on the scale one to ten, if

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Speaker 13: you know ten being you're the best at not taking sacks.

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Speaker 13: If you're a one or a two, or maybe a three,

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Speaker 13: you can get to five or six. But those guys

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Speaker 13: don't get to eight, nine, ten, right, They're not that

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Speaker 13: kind of they don't have that kind of DNA.

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Speaker 5: So that was a big part of it.

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Speaker 13: But then even consistent decision making issues, I would say, right,

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Speaker 13: so the way he handled the end of the game

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Speaker 13: against the Lions on Thanksgiving, when the Bears were doing

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Speaker 13: the right thing, callplay, run the play, then you use

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Speaker 13: the timeout, he audibled, didn't realize why they were doing

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Speaker 13: they were doing and then we ran out of time

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Speaker 13: and everybody blamed Ibraflus and Eberflus knew he couldn't throw

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Speaker 13: Caleb Williams number one pick under the bus. And then

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Speaker 13: even just like this stuff with he and his dad

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Speaker 13: talking with Seth Wickersham and telling him how they you know,

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Speaker 13: they try to get out of there in Chicago. They

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Speaker 13: didn't want to be there.

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Speaker 5: I just would say, Dan, there's a lot.

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Speaker 13: Of examples, even off the field, of questionable decision making,

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Speaker 13: and when you stack all of them on.

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Speaker 5: Top of each other, it starts to become concerning.

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Speaker 13: The way I look at it is, Okay, who are

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Speaker 13: the other guys that are top ten NFL quarterbacks who

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Speaker 13: have some issues within game management, have some off the

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Speaker 13: field issues with decision making, whether it's their dad or

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Speaker 13: them or whatever. Take that many sacks. I just you

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Speaker 13: started to stack.

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Speaker 5: Some things, you know, and then that article comes out.

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Speaker 13: By the way, this is why I ask that Dan

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Speaker 13: in May, that article comes out, it's the start of

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Speaker 13: the Bears offseason program, and he doesn't he doesn't talk

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Speaker 13: to the media. It's like, the first thing you have

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Speaker 13: to do after an article like that comes out is

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Speaker 13: just address it so it goes away because nobody ever's

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Speaker 13: gonna keep talking about it until you say something about it.

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Speaker 13: So there's just kind of a pattern there of what

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Speaker 13: I would phrase questionable decision making.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's turn our attention to tomorrow night, and

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Speaker 2: you got the Dolphins twelve and a half point underdogs

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Speaker 2: divisional rivalry game in Buffalo. I'm not like this game,

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Speaker 2: I expect Buffalo to win. It's the next like three

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Speaker 2: or four games. I think they have the Jets, they

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Speaker 2: have the Panthers, they have the Browns, and they have

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Speaker 2: the Chargers. Like those are three of those games are

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Speaker 2: winnable games. If they lose to Buffalo, okay, But if

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Speaker 2: you lose two of three to those you know, subpar teams,

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Speaker 2: that's when you might see a move there.

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Speaker 3: With Mike McDaniels the head coach.

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Speaker 5: Your thoughts, I think that's probably accurate.

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Speaker 13: You know, there are some people speculating that because it's

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Speaker 13: a Thursday night game, it's a primetime game. You know, Dan,

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Speaker 13: I always say that primetime games count like five x

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Speaker 13: in the court of public opinion.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 13: So if it's a primetime game, everybody's watching all at

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Speaker 13: the same time. If they look really bad on Thursday night,

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Speaker 13: if they get blown out, then.

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Speaker 5: It's almost like they got a lot of time before

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Speaker 5: that next game. It's almost like a mini buy.

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Speaker 13: You have the whole weekend for the owner to just

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Speaker 13: think about it and simmer over it. I think there

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Speaker 13: is the possibility if it's that bad on Thursday night

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Speaker 13: that they would move on. For McDaniel, I think it's

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Speaker 13: more likely that they would give them the next few games.

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Speaker 13: But then that's always an interesting one too, because if

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Speaker 13: the owner's already made up his mind, does he want

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Speaker 13: to give him the chance to win those next couple games.

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Speaker 13: Problem as I see it for the Dolphins is they

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Speaker 13: kind of tried to put the toothpaste back in the

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Speaker 13: tube a little bit. I mean, everybody knows that the players,

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Speaker 13: I guess the nicest way to phrase it would say

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Speaker 13: that the players had a lot of freedom, or have

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Speaker 13: a lot of freedom down there and with the culture,

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Speaker 13: and so they tried to pull back on that a

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Speaker 13: little bit and make it a little bit more restrictive.

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Speaker 13: I think that's really hard to do in life, right like,

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Speaker 13: because these players know what you've been like the last

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Speaker 13: couple of years. Now, all of a sudden, you're gonna change.

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Speaker 13: So it's like, okay, so first of all, we don't

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Speaker 13: really buy it.

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Speaker 5: We don't really buy you're going to change.

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Speaker 13: And secondly, if you're going to change, then you're not

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Speaker 13: really being who you are, You're not really being authentic.

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Speaker 5: It's almost like you can't win either. Way at that point.

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Speaker 2: But the players want to be coached by you know,

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Speaker 2: the Dan Campbell or you know, because I'll hear all

649
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: he's a players coach, players manager, and then all you know,

650
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: like Terry Francona was the perfect manager in Boston until

651
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: he wasn't the perfect manager. Oh, they're taking advantage of him.

652
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: He's too nice of a guy. You know, he's a

653
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: players manager and that's why they're winning. Come on, make

654
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: up your mind. What would do players want to be

655
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: coached like Belichick or coached by Mike McDaniel.

656
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 13: That that is such an awesome question that people don't

657
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 13: ask enough. And part of it is why when they're

658
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 13: doing the pre draft process they try to find the

659
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 13: guys that want to be coached hard, can take criticism,

660
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 13: and also are self motivated, disciplined because you know what

661
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 13: the truth is, Dan, I played for five teams.

662
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 5: You know that.

663
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 13: You know, football players are just like most people out there,

664
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 13: A lot of football players. They'd rather have a shorter practice,

665
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 13: they'd rather not have pads on, they'd rather not have

666
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 13: the discipline or like everybody, I think most people in

667
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 13: society have a tendency to drift towards wanting the easier.

668
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 5: Path, the easy way out.

669
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 13: What you need to try to do is have as

670
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 13: many guys on your team as possible that won't accept that,

671
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 13: but I think that's the natural default for a lot

672
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 13: of guys, and I think the Dolphins have certainly fallen

673
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 13: into that.

674
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: Ross Tucker, CBS Sports, Westwood One. He'll be on the

675
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 2: call tomorrow night, Westwood one Radio, Dolphins Bills, and then

676
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: Colt's and the Titans coming up this weekend.

677
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: You also had the Browns and the Ravens.

678
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: You yelled at Joe Flacco on the broadcast with the

679
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: Browns Ravens.

680
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say I yelled at him.

681
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 13: I just said, And by the way, I love Joe Flacco.

682
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 13: Philly guy has the house at the Jersey Shore right

683
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 13: near me. And what I love about Joe is I

684
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 13: think everything I said he would say the exact same thing.

685
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 13: I mean, he told us before the game that his

686
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 13: harshest critics are his kids, and his twelve year old said,

687
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 13: the Browns are picking you to start, which I thought

688
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 13: was amazing. But listen, you know, if you have a

689
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 13: guy like Flaco starting, you cannot make that decision in

690
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 13: that throw. It was a thirteen to three game. You know,

691
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 13: that's the way the Browns have to win. They have

692
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 13: to be ugly, lower scoring games. And it was a

693
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 13: surprisingly poor decision. It was a really bad throw. It

694
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 13: totally changed the game at that point and the game

695
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 13: got away from them.

696
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 5: And what I love about Flaco.

697
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 13: Is if you guys got him on the show, or

698
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 13: if he ends up being a color commentator, he would

699
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 13: say he'd say, that's a terrible job by me.

700
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 5: You can't do that. His brothers would tell him that

701
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: he knows.

702
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 13: I mean, it was just, you know, he was getting frustrated.

703
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 13: They weren't moving the ball that well, they weren't scoring.

704
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 13: He got greedy and he made a really poor choice.

705
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 13: It happens.

706
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Speaker 2: If I said quarterback changed with the Browns or the Giants,

707
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: which one would happen first.

708
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 5: That's a good question.

709
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 13: I will say the Giants because I think the Giants,

710
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 13: you know, they took Jackson Dart in the first round,

711
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 13: and I think that they have more hope that they

712
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 13: can have success with Jackson Dart. I think the Browns

713
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 13: probably want to win a game first before they go

714
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 13: to Dylan Gabriel. Now, he looked good on that drive,

715
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 13: but I think, deep down, you know, in places people

716
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 13: don't like to admit it, if the Browns switched to

717
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 13: Dylan Gabriel or should or Sanders, I think that there'd

718
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 13: be some concern like what if we don't win a game?

719
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 13: You know, I mean what like what if we don't

720
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 13: want a game? I think, get one win on the

721
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 13: on the ledger. Whereas the Giants I think probably feel

722
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 13: like you know, darts maybe just as good as Russell

723
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 13: Wilson are giving them, just to give a chance to

724
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 13: win a game right now. Anyway, do you think the

725
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 13: Browns want to win? I do think the Browns want

726
00:38:59,360 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 13: to win.

727
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: Management management, not players management.

728
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 13: Good question, Yes, I think. You know, it's interesting Jimmy

729
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 13: has them at one point said three and fourteen is

730
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 13: not good enough. And so what's fascinating about that is,

731
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 13: you know, I don't think he has delusions of grandeur.

732
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 13: I mean, you talk to people in Cleveland, and they know,

733
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 13: if everything goes well, they win seven games, right But

734
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 13: I think that they I think they don't want to

735
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 13: make their fans suffer through another season that's that bad.

736
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 13: Which makes the whole dynamic of when they bench Flaco

737
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 13: and put in Dylan Gabriel or Shador very very interesting

738
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Speaker 13: because I think the GM Andrew Berry and the head

739
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 13: coach Kevin Sefanski are on solid footing. I think the

740
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 13: guy above them, Paul de Podesta, whatever his title is,

741
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 13: I think that they take a long enough time horizon

742
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 13: view and they know the Assets have next year. They

743
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 13: know they have a great rookie class that's playing very well.

744
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 13: But all it takes the owner to change his mind.

745
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 13: I just don't think Stefanski and Barry would be operating

746
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 13: in the manner that they are playing this many rookies

747
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 13: trading down with the Travis Hunter trade if they thought

748
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 13: they really had to win this year.

749
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Speaker 3: The Tush push has re emerged.

750
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Speaker 2: I I'm not sure why it came back up, other

751
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: than well I kept it alive. I should say, when

752
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: you know I'm having the head of you know, officiating

753
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: from Fox, Dean Blandino on and he says, look, I've

754
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 2: given up. I can't officiate this, And I thought, ding

755
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 2: ding ding ding ding. Now you can say that to

756
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: the owners, it's hard for us to officiate this. Maybe

757
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: you get those two other votes and then maybe you

758
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: get rid of this play this next season. My point

759
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: when I watched it, ross is the guards jump off

760
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: sides like they're moving before everybody else. You can call them.

761
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: The one thing you can't call is the spotting of

762
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: the ball. I think that's really difficult in that play.

763
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: But is the tush push going away at the end

764
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: of this year?

765
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Speaker 13: Well, Number one, I don't really understand why the officials

766
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 13: didn't call the false starts on the Eagles guards, and

767
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 13: they should have, and then that would have changed things significantly.

768
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 13: And let me just tell you right now, we know

769
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 13: the NFL doesn't like the play and has pushed to

770
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 13: remove it, so they're going to be watching those guys.

771
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 5: Very very carefully.

772
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Speaker 13: I think this is probably the last year for it.

773
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 13: I think when you have that prominent of a game

774
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 13: and you have multiple false starts that aren't called, I

775
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 13: think that would be enough, probably Dan to convince a

776
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 13: couple of owners to be like, what are we doing here?

777
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 5: You know?

778
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 13: I mean, so that might have been a situation right

779
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 13: or wrong where the Eagles kind of won the battle

780
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 13: but lost the war.

781
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 5: My guess is this is the last year of it.

782
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Speaker 13: I still find it fascinating that no one else has

783
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 13: been able to replicate it. I mean, that's the impressive thing,

784
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 13: isn't that nobody can stop it?

785
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 5: This is a quote unquote copycat league, right.

786
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 13: I mean Jonathan Gannon, Shane Stike, and Kellen Moore, all

787
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 13: these guys are head coaches that came from Philadelphia over

788
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 13: the last couple of years, and they still can't replicate

789
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 13: it with their teams, which then goes to show that

790
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 13: it's not the technique as much as it's the people

791
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 13: doing it. Which isn't that like, shouldn't that be a

792
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 13: credit to the Eagles and not something that they try

793
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 13: to get rid of If the Eagles have personnel that

794
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 13: can execute something better than others.

795
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I've said.

796
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: I may not like it aesthetically, but it's football where

797
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna do and you can't stop it.

798
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: But if you will allow the guards to be off side,

799
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: then I have a problem with that. I still just

800
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: take the guy from behind Jalen Hurts out and they'll

801
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: still be successful. It's a great offensive line, and you

802
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: have a quarterback who's unlike any other quarterback with his ability,

803
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: you know, with his leg strength, they'll still be great.

804
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 13: I'm really glad you said that, because what people don't

805
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 13: understand is that even if they say you can't push, okay,

806
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 13: the Eagles will still run the play looking extremely similar.

807
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 13: You just won't have the guy come up and push

808
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 13: him from behind. They'll still have a lot of success

809
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 13: with it. People still won't like it stylistically, the injury

810
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 13: risk portion of it with the O line D line

811
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 13: in those crowds.

812
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 5: But that's not changing like that, Like that's not changing

813
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 5: like the the the guy coming from behind and pushing

814
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 5: the quarterback. That doesn't really change the injury risk part

815
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 5: of it. So I don't know. I mean, they're gonna

816
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 5: they're gonna outlaw after the year.

817
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 13: I'm very confident, and then the Eagles will just do

818
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 13: regular quarterbacks sneaks and have a lot of success.

819
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: But Dean Blandino said something yesterday that really caught my attention.

820
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 2: He said he thinks because the Eagles won the Super

821
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: Bowl that the other owners didn't want to seem like

822
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: sour grapes, and then they voted against the tush push

823
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: and maybe that's why it survived. That if the Eagles

824
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: don't win the Super Bowl, then it doesn't come across

825
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: as sour grapes that we can't stop it, so let's

826
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: get it out of the game. Whether that's a motivating

827
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: factor in the off season, I don't know, but this

828
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: is the former head of officials saying that.

829
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, twenty two voted to get rid of it,

830
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 13: so only ten voted to keep it. And it only

831
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 13: takes a couple to change. And I'm sure this offense,

832
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 13: I mean, all they're gonna have to do is show

833
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 13: those couple guys the fall stars. It's too hard to

834
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 13: officiate it. They can't see it. We can't see where

835
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 13: the ball is, we can't see who they're lined up.

836
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 13: I think they're probably pretty confident that they get a

837
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 13: couple of guys that changed their mind.

838
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: Johns Allen broke his nose, and he was, he was,

839
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: have you ever had that during a game?

840
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 13: Never in a football game, because it's really hard to

841
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 13: break your nose with the face mask, right, Like, that's

842
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 13: the that's the reason why you have the face mask now,

843
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 13: like backyard football, basketball one time and like knee football

844
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 13: one time, I broke my nose. I can still kind

845
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 13: of still kind of feel. So he's gonna go a visor,

846
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 13: which is smart. I don't even know. I had to

847
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 13: see it. Again to see how it actually happened, because

848
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 13: there should not be a way in which that happened.

849
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the whole design of the face mask

850
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 5: in the first place.

851
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: Have you been out there where somebody's got blood all

852
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: over themselves during a game.

853
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 5: I don't remember blood like all over themselves.

854
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 13: I mean I've seen bad I've seen dislocated elbows where

855
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 13: it went the wrong way. I did have two debt

856
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 13: different defensive lineman spit in my face during the two

857
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 13: thousand and four season. That was nice, But no, I

858
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 13: have not. I can't remember seeing like gushing blood.

859
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: Do you say to the official, that guy just spit

860
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: on me.

861
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 5: No, In neither instance did I do it. The one

862
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 5: guy Dan it must have been.

863
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 13: Right after a TV timeout because it wasn't like spit.

864
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 13: It was like he had a mouthful of water and

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Speaker 13: he was saving it for me and spit on me

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Speaker 13: and blew it all over me.

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Speaker 5: Now, that guy, I think might have been bipolar. So

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Speaker 5: I wasn't messing with that guy. I was. I had

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Speaker 5: legitimately legitimate concerned about that guy.

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Speaker 13: Now, the guy that did it for the Bengals that

871
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 13: really bothered me, and I had did with Marvin Lewis

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Speaker 13: and Washington. So I was screaming at the Bengals sideline

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Speaker 13: to put him back in the game so I could

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Speaker 13: try to break his leg. Those are the good so

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Speaker 13: you know differences. Those guys didn't do it right in

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Speaker 13: front of the refs. Okay, so there was no penalty,

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Speaker 13: so there was no cameras, And what were they gonna

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Speaker 13: do after the game. I wasn't gonna say anything about

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Speaker 13: it after the game. Oh yeah, by the way, this

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Speaker 13: guy for the Brown or this guy for the Bengals

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Speaker 13: spit in my face. But that's probably a record that

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Speaker 13: people don't know how many times you get spit in

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Speaker 13: the face in one season. Ross Tucker two thousand and four. Congratulations, Hey,

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Speaker 13: we all have to be good and known for something.

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Speaker 13: I'mout a round of applause for Ross getting all right,

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Speaker 13: same travels. Thank you, buddy.

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Speaker 5: That was great, See you guys.

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Speaker 3: That's Ross Chucker.