Speaker 1: Welcome for another edition of the Official Jets Podcast, powered
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Speaker 1: it down Ethan and Hoboken three forty pm Tuesday, March
Speaker 1: twenty four. On today's episode, we're gonna do a little
Speaker 1: bit of draft talk. I know that it's free agency
Speaker 1: right now, but Mel Kiper of ESPN just put out
Speaker 1: his new mock draft, basically a ripple effect of the
Speaker 1: first wave of free agency, and e A and I
Speaker 1: will be going through the top ten and of course
Speaker 1: the Jets at eleven basically see who could take who
Speaker 1: come April. We're officially just under a month away from
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft April to April. And Olivia Land is
Speaker 1: caught up with Cynthia Freeland. That'll be our interview today.
Speaker 1: And really this is the second podcast in a row
Speaker 1: where we have some breaking news right off the top.
Speaker 1: Yesterday it was reportedly Jordan Jenkins resigned with the Jets,
Speaker 1: and today the Jets had to say goodbye to Robby Anderson,
Speaker 1: who reportedly signed with the Carolina Panthers and reuniting with
Speaker 1: his college coach Matt Rule reportedly agreed to terms. That's
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter here a couple of minutes ago. As you
Speaker 1: said Greens at his three forty one on Tuesday, things
Speaker 1: in the National Football League just continue to come in
Speaker 1: multiple waves of free agency, reuniting with Matt Rule there
Speaker 1: in Carolina and a former Jet and there are no
Speaker 1: signal caller that is Teddy Bridgewater. Of course, Robbie did
Speaker 1: some nice things here for the Jets um band. Joe
Speaker 1: Douglas and Adam Gates both very complimentary if him. But
Speaker 1: with that being said, uh, free agencies fluid, and you
Speaker 1: know this, Joe Douglas will have a plan. All right,
Speaker 1: let's dive into some draft talk here. So what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do is we're gonna go through mel Kiper's one
Speaker 1: through eleven where the Jets selects, and we're gonna basically
Speaker 1: talk about who melt slow at it at each pick,
Speaker 1: and then who we think could be other options for
Speaker 1: those teams. And really, when you look at the first
Speaker 1: and second pick, you think of Joe Burrow has been
Speaker 1: He's been pegged to the Cincinnati Bengals from the get
Speaker 1: so I don't really want to talk about him and
Speaker 1: Chase Young the same thing in Washington, and especially when
Speaker 1: you think that the Redskins just traded for Kyle Allen.
Speaker 1: I know there was some speculation that maybe two attack
Speaker 1: of Bayla or Justin Herbert could be the guy at
Speaker 1: number two. And really from all along, you see a
Speaker 1: lot of the draft pundens say that the draft starts
Speaker 1: at number three because if you're looking for the second quarterback,
Speaker 1: assuming Joe Burrow goes one, who's gonna trade up to three?
Speaker 1: And the two most popular answers are the Chargers and
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. But right now, the way mel Kiper has it,
Speaker 1: no trades in his mock draft, jeff A Couda the
Speaker 1: cornerback from Ohio State number three to the Detroit Lions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Green's a Couta is the Navy been in there by
Speaker 1: most draft pardons for months. In fact, everybody should read
Speaker 1: up on what you've been doing with the athletics. Dane
Speaker 1: Brugler on New York Just dot com, You guys are
Speaker 1: actually going to start up that series again. It's March
Speaker 1: twenty four, were less than a month away from the
Speaker 1: two thousand, twenty NFL Draft, and everybody's been looking at
Speaker 1: the Lions right for a long time and saying that
Speaker 1: is the flash point they have their quarterback in place
Speaker 1: in Matt Stafford. Does a Kuda come off the board
Speaker 1: that quickly? And if the Dolphins and or the Chargers
Speaker 1: want to get up the three, what is the price.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at Miami right now, just the first
Speaker 1: round picks alone. Greens they had the fifth pick, pick pick.
Speaker 1: I think they have more than enough ammunition when you
Speaker 1: look at their whole stockpile two thousand twenty, they can
Speaker 1: get up there if they're targeting to to three. I
Speaker 1: think Detroit, if you're looking at it from alliance perspective,
Speaker 1: fabulous position because you might be able to go back
Speaker 1: to five and or of five or six and get
Speaker 1: the player you want. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I think the Dolphins have the ammunition to get up
Speaker 1: to three. And really I don't know why the Lions
Speaker 1: wouldn't fall back to five if those two teams make
Speaker 1: a trade. It feels like the Lions could, in theory,
Speaker 1: still take somebody like Jeff Acuda at five. I'm interested
Speaker 1: to see where the Giants go, and the Giants right
Speaker 1: now have the number four overall pick. In mel Kiper's
Speaker 1: mock draft, he has them taking Isaiah Simmons, who's You know,
Speaker 1: he's listed at linebacker, but he's a Swiss Army knife
Speaker 1: for the Clempton Tigers. He's played safety, he's played linebacker,
Speaker 1: he's played nickel, he's played outside corner. He plays everywhere
Speaker 1: for the Tigers. And a lot of other mock drafts
Speaker 1: also have the Giants taking an offensive lineman, similar to
Speaker 1: what the Jets want to do and what the Bills
Speaker 1: did last year. You build a all around your young
Speaker 1: quarterback end in the offensive line scenario, such would be
Speaker 1: the case for Daniel Jones. Now this is saying that
Speaker 1: Dave Gettlman GM of the Giants would go on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball and take a player really
Speaker 1: that can play anywhere on the field. Well, Simmons seems
Speaker 1: like a unique player. You might be the most versatile
Speaker 1: player in the entire draft class. Isn't that fair to say, Greens?
Speaker 1: You just mentioned everything that he did at Clemson. You know,
Speaker 1: I'd love to be in these draft meetings when the
Speaker 1: team's watch tape of Simmons because how do they want
Speaker 1: to use them on the next level? And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying we're moving in the National Football League now to
Speaker 1: more of a position less um player. Evaluation scale, I think,
Speaker 1: and Simmons is a perfect example of that. Now, if
Speaker 1: you're the Giants, though, and you have a quarterback entering
Speaker 1: his second season and they do have a new coach
Speaker 1: there the Giants, is he your guy? I'm not saying
Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna take a quarterback at four, but
Speaker 1: if you know he's your guy, do you want to
Speaker 1: take that investment and give him a tackle? Because the
Speaker 1: Giants do, even though they've made a move or two
Speaker 1: in free agency, they have some question marks up front.
Speaker 1: Green's yes, they do. And Nate Solder still on the team.
Speaker 1: He plays left tackle, and they had some struggles, uh all,
Speaker 1: on the line last year. And you know, it'll be
Speaker 1: very interesting to see if the first tackle comes off
Speaker 1: the board at four, which if the Jets were in
Speaker 1: the market, might not bode well for them at eleven
Speaker 1: based on the ripple effect. And you know, really quickly
Speaker 1: here before we hear from Olivia, you look at the
Speaker 1: Chargers at six, another possible trade up option, or maybe
Speaker 1: they just sit where they are. And I know basically
Speaker 1: every my draft has them selecting either to a or
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. Whoever, the Dolphins do not select in In
Speaker 1: each person's respective mock draft. But then I've also seen
Speaker 1: a couple of mock drafts and I want to get
Speaker 1: your opinion on this that have the Chargers taking a
Speaker 1: tackle to protect whoever plays back there, assuming it's not
Speaker 1: justin Herbert or to a Well, I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: Charges right now and saying, I think they've already made
Speaker 1: some line improvements trade turners there. They picked up Brian
Speaker 1: Boulog on free agency, the former longtime Green Bay Packle's
Speaker 1: right tackle, so pouncy. You're hoping, if you're a Chargers fan,
Speaker 1: that he is going to be your center for sixteen
Speaker 1: games next season. So I think they've done a couple
Speaker 1: of moves here in free agency where they've fortified the
Speaker 1: line quite a bit. I still think the play for
Speaker 1: them is going after a quarterback. I'm just wondering if
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Chargers have both their mindset on
Speaker 1: getting to uh no matter what. The wild card here
Speaker 1: is the Carolina Panthers. Yes, they reached agreement with Robbie
Speaker 1: Anderson according to Adam Schufter today, but they also officially
Speaker 1: released Cam Newton. With the Chargers and Anthony Lynn be interested,
Speaker 1: they got to Rod Taylor. They're a veteran who did
Speaker 1: some nice things with the Buffalo Bills. But with the
Speaker 1: Chargers moving into that new stadium, want to take a
Speaker 1: flyer on Cam Newton. Yeah, I think that's a fascinating
Speaker 1: I think it'll be fascinating to see where Cam goes,
Speaker 1: where Jamis Winston also goes. He remains unsigned as we
Speaker 1: record this podcast. You know they could break any second
Speaker 1: that he reportedly agreed to term somewhere. But for now,
Speaker 1: let's hear from Olivia land As, who spoke with Cynthia Freeland,
Speaker 1: and then on the backside will go through seven through eleven. Now,
Speaker 1: before we kind of got rolling here, we were talking
Speaker 1: about some of the stuff you've been doing to keep
Speaker 1: yourself occupied, and you mentioned how you're dabbling in some
Speaker 1: teaching right now uson I UM. I have a lot
Speaker 1: of friends with kids and they're having hard time with
Speaker 1: this homeschooling and one particular area that is a really
Speaker 1: big source of concerned math um where I have some
Speaker 1: some expertise. I am not a teacher, and I give
Speaker 1: so much more every day. I have more and more
Speaker 1: respect for teachers because I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: Watching and listening to what these kids have to these parents.
Speaker 1: So I've been basically trying to take some of my
Speaker 1: football knowledge and football experience and turn it into hopefully
Speaker 1: fun lesson plans. And then kids have been sending me
Speaker 1: homework and we go over it in small groups on zoom.
Speaker 1: So I am not a teacher, but I'm pretending to
Speaker 1: be a teacher during this quarantine time to help the
Speaker 1: parents out with a little bit of math fun too.
Speaker 1: It's it's awesome that you're using your skills to help others,
Speaker 1: so hopefully we will see um trying. You're self appointed,
Speaker 1: It gives it gives a huge perspective, right, and a
Speaker 1: lot of appreciation for educators. Definitely not so so hard
Speaker 1: So well, Cynthia, I want to dive a little bit
Speaker 1: more into what you do for the NFL network. We
Speaker 1: already mentioned how you are a data scientists and predictive
Speaker 1: analytics expert. You actually do a lot of content with
Speaker 1: the jets. When you look at your job and this
Speaker 1: free agency period, with how unique this has been with
Speaker 1: the coronavirus pandemic going on, how exactly does a data
Speaker 1: scientist or predictive analysts expert play into the role of
Speaker 1: free agency and predicting what can be some of the
Speaker 1: best met needs for certain teams. So it's really about
Speaker 1: having a plan, being collaborative, and then executing that plan. Now,
Speaker 1: I think the first day of free agency, you know,
Speaker 1: people were like, what is it just Canna do the
Speaker 1: sony and people were you know, it didn't seem like
Speaker 1: the big splashy moves were going the Jets way, which
Speaker 1: honestly was really good. Then the deals start could come through.
Speaker 1: You see a corner that really played above average last season,
Speaker 1: Brian Pool being re signed for five million. That is
Speaker 1: a great contract. It is what's that I said, a
Speaker 1: good snag for great snag because it's all about return
Speaker 1: on investment for the strategy that you want to enact. Right, So,
Speaker 1: if your strategy is to play defense with the pieces
Speaker 1: you've already paid for. C. J. Mosley was a big
Speaker 1: acquisition last year, so now you have to take the
Speaker 1: pieces you that you have and you know, look, the
Speaker 1: run defense for the Jets is a huge source of
Speaker 1: strength last season. The past defense could could use some work.
Speaker 1: So reinforcing that with the right types of players at
Speaker 1: the right price, that's really how you create the best
Speaker 1: strategy to win, especially in the division that now you know,
Speaker 1: it's anyone's division. Really, you know, like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of question marks kind of on every team. And you
Speaker 1: have a quarterback that your coach believes in, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, that's that's a really big deal. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of really interesting things happening. Reinforcing the old line,
Speaker 1: figuring out how to protect your asset. The most valuable
Speaker 1: player on any team is the quarterback, just is right.
Speaker 1: So ultimately, you know, finding ways to reinforce the assets
Speaker 1: that you already have. You've already paid for love Bell.
Speaker 1: It's a sun cost. You can't go back and reconsider it.
Speaker 1: You have to take the hundred nine million dollars for
Speaker 1: this year's cap and allocate it in a way that
Speaker 1: gives you the best chance to win. And that's really
Speaker 1: I've been really you know, it's it's not a sexy
Speaker 1: offseason for the Jets. You know, I don't mean to
Speaker 1: you know, sure, Brian's Pool Gray super sexy, great, but
Speaker 1: like a bunch of alignment three pound men also sexy,
Speaker 1: but very meaningful, impactful. Well, when you look at the
Speaker 1: Jets specifically, and I know that you were talking about
Speaker 1: um finding the pieces that already worked implementing them. And
Speaker 1: you know, the Jets haven't, like you said, necessarily made
Speaker 1: a huge splash in that first wave of free agency.
Speaker 1: But when you take a look at the Green and
Speaker 1: White and some of their needs at this point in time,
Speaker 1: when you consider some of the data that you are
Speaker 1: reviewing on a day to day basis, what sticks out
Speaker 1: to you most about some of the immediate needs of
Speaker 1: this team. Well, obviously, look, I spent a lot of
Speaker 1: my thesis when I was in school, and you know,
Speaker 1: figuring out how to really become impactful in the sports
Speaker 1: analytics space and football, particularly because my background. I worked
Speaker 1: actually at the league office in on Park Avenue in
Speaker 1: a financial strategy capacity ahead of the last c b A,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's the right blend of products
Speaker 1: and product for the league office. It's games, right, is it?
Speaker 1: Sixteen and four? Seventeen and three? How many playoff games?
Speaker 1: It's fun because I was in the league office ahead
Speaker 1: of the last set of negotiations and the same things
Speaker 1: came up in this set of negotiations. Really interesting to
Speaker 1: see how it all evolved. But as I was doing that,
Speaker 1: I noticed that there was a void in being able
Speaker 1: to really connect the dots with you know, on field
Speaker 1: and create a strategy that was team specific to create
Speaker 1: the best products a k A chances to win as
Speaker 1: defined by a team. Right. So when I look at
Speaker 1: at what the Jets needs are, I think, you know, look,
Speaker 1: they've started your address O line for sure. But you
Speaker 1: almost can never address an O line too much, right, Like,
Speaker 1: you know you can, you can, you can keep you know,
Speaker 1: trying until get the right combination. And then, by the way,
Speaker 1: like do you want to run outside zone rushing or what?
Speaker 1: How do you want to use leve Bell best? Because
Speaker 1: you paid for him, he's there, and how does that
Speaker 1: work with Sam Donald? And oh, by the way, there
Speaker 1: are questions at wide receiver and you've got to solve
Speaker 1: those two. And in such a deep class and draft
Speaker 1: in the draft for wide receivers, that's an interesting sort
Speaker 1: of like, well, how do you want to play that strategy?
Speaker 1: Which one is your favorite, which one matches what Adam
Speaker 1: Gates wants to do? How do you want to make
Speaker 1: it all work together? And by the way, there's four
Speaker 1: tackles in this class that are really strong would be
Speaker 1: great fits for the Jets. And I say, tackles very specifically, right,
Speaker 1: So for me, short up the tackle, figure out how
Speaker 1: to use the new pieces that you've got. Yes, George
Speaker 1: Fant is now there. I'm I'm aware, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm following it too. But you can almost again, you
Speaker 1: can almost never address an old line too much. And
Speaker 1: I think the work that you're doing is so absolutely incredible,
Speaker 1: and I think it's something that's been missing from the
Speaker 1: NFL for a really long time. I wanted to circle
Speaker 1: back really quickly. You did mention so the offensive line,
Speaker 1: and we've already seen Joe Douglas taking the steps to
Speaker 1: address the offensive line, but I wanted to circle back
Speaker 1: on something you had said, mentioning how you notice there
Speaker 1: was something missing and then you were able to come
Speaker 1: up with this approach. And I'm assuming you had to
Speaker 1: pitch it and then be able to get where you're
Speaker 1: at today. What were some of the other steps that
Speaker 1: you had to take to implement this new approach that
Speaker 1: you've brought to the NFL, because I think it's been
Speaker 1: so valuable for so many teams. Thank you. I like that. Um, Ultimately,
Speaker 1: it's like like anything else, just like your job, just
Speaker 1: like you know, an accountant or a teacher, or any
Speaker 1: job you have to there's there's an element of trust
Speaker 1: in and being able to deliver. Like so your boss
Speaker 1: says OLIVERA you were you work from home during this time,
Speaker 1: create these podcasts, make content that we want. There's a
Speaker 1: level of trust there that you're going to do the
Speaker 1: things that are your You have an understanding of what
Speaker 1: your audience is looking for and how they can find it.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with analytics and sports. The good
Speaker 1: teams have a lock step between coach and front office
Speaker 1: and their analytics staff. In the scout, they use all
Speaker 1: of the tools available in their tool belt, and analytics
Speaker 1: is one that helps create strategy. But when when it
Speaker 1: comes to me, and because I touch all of the teams,
Speaker 1: I get a chance to speak to many teams and
Speaker 1: I get a chance to try to you know, look,
Speaker 1: I tell I'm lucky. I'm super lucky because I get
Speaker 1: to tell really positive stories. Because you know, when you're
Speaker 1: when you're covering all of the teams, then you know
Speaker 1: what is a bad What is a bad thing for
Speaker 1: one team is actually often a good thing for another.
Speaker 1: So you're you're trying to find positives and I'm able
Speaker 1: to be to be useful because teams will ask me.
Speaker 1: They'll be like, Cynthia, can you help me? When I
Speaker 1: when I consult for teams, they'll be like, can you
Speaker 1: help me, like structure and organize the analytics staff that
Speaker 1: I have so that we can solve a question about
Speaker 1: I'm going to use one that's absolutely not the jets,
Speaker 1: you know, just because to keep everything, you know, because
Speaker 1: I trust is a big deal. Right, helps you're out
Speaker 1: which running back we should target of these five given
Speaker 1: that we want to do this, and help me structure
Speaker 1: my team so that the people who are my analytic
Speaker 1: staff here they're feeling more useful. That's what the good
Speaker 1: teams are doing. And I feel that's my favorite type
Speaker 1: of projects because then I get to help people kind
Speaker 1: of like you know, I think, I mean maybe maybe
Speaker 1: I'm always a teacher, right like now that I think
Speaker 1: about this, it sounds like it. Yeah, but I want
Speaker 1: people to feel happy and satisfied. It math isn't very sexy.
Speaker 1: It advanced math and going through and trying to you
Speaker 1: know a lot of it is. Writing computer code also
Speaker 1: not necessarily the most sexy thing, right, So you know,
Speaker 1: you want to be around football and football is so
Speaker 1: much fun and it the energy and you get wins
Speaker 1: and losses, which is like, that's awesome in life, and
Speaker 1: there they're almost inconsequence quental wins and losses, like when
Speaker 1: I was a banker, you have a loss, like you
Speaker 1: can get fired and it's scary, right you have lost here.
Speaker 1: Yet eventually if you have too many losses, you get fired.
Speaker 1: But you know you get you get a chance next
Speaker 1: Sunday again to go out there and improve yourself. So
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see when you when you talk to teams,
Speaker 1: making people useful and like strategizing how to you know,
Speaker 1: use all of the different things available to it. There's
Speaker 1: so many different data points now with the next gen
Speaker 1: stats coming out, with people learning how to write different
Speaker 1: types of computer code, there's tons of different ways that
Speaker 1: you can be useful. And it's really about how you, like,
Speaker 1: you know, create the structure that the coach trusts and
Speaker 1: the GM trust and that people can use. Thanks to
Speaker 1: Olivia and to Cynthia for joining the Official Jets podcast. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's pick up right where we left off here so
Speaker 1: we can get in seven to eleven because we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a lot of thoughts once the Jets are on
Speaker 1: the board you mentioned the Carolina Panthers. Mel Kuiper has
Speaker 1: them selecting Derek Brown, the defensive tackle out of Auburn
Speaker 1: who's widely regarded as the best interior guy. Javon Kinlaw
Speaker 1: is also in that conversation, But Derek Brown is like
Speaker 1: a he didn't test well at the Combine, but his
Speaker 1: tape is so good. And I think the Panthers also,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of viewing this with a jet scope.
Speaker 1: So a lot of mock drafts have had receiver and
Speaker 1: O line at eleven for the Jets, and I think
Speaker 1: the Panthers probably not in the market for a receiver
Speaker 1: at seven, but they could be in the market, I
Speaker 1: would assume for a tackle at seven also. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you think about Rule and what he did a great
Speaker 1: job at Temple and then he goes to Baylor in
Speaker 1: that program was in ashes when he got there, and
Speaker 1: what they did last year going to the Big Twelve
Speaker 1: title game. They were a couple of quarters away from
Speaker 1: making the College Football semifinals. So outstanding job on the
Speaker 1: college level. Now he's taken his shot in the National
Speaker 1: Football League with Carolina. Brown the more you talk about
Speaker 1: Rule the more I think he does make sense there
Speaker 1: because rules background is defense. You know, let's just keep
Speaker 1: things rolling. We're looking at the Cardinals now at number eight,
Speaker 1: and mel Kiper has them selecting Tristan Worth's and a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, this was a popular spot for
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, who played with Kyler Murray at Oklahoma, and
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb's the receiver, and now that they've traded for
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, probably looking at a tackle here, or depending
Speaker 1: on how certain things play out ahead of them, maybe
Speaker 1: they look at somebody like Derek Brown if he falls,
Speaker 1: or Isaiah Simmons, or even somebody I don't know if
Speaker 1: he would fall this far, but somebody like Jeff Akuda.
Speaker 1: Maybe he makes sense for the Cardinals at a because
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson's getting up there in age, and I know
Speaker 1: they uh picked Byron Murphy last year in the second round,
Speaker 1: but maybe they wanna improve their secondary. I think the
Speaker 1: Cardinals are really interesting actually, so they already fortified the
Speaker 1: tackle position, but you could set yourself up for a
Speaker 1: long time if you go tackle here and you just
Speaker 1: made an investment number one overall Kyler Murray. Now you
Speaker 1: give them the shiny new toy who for my money,
Speaker 1: Deandreakins is as good as any receiver in the National
Speaker 1: Football League. He's always open Greens Uh, He physically is
Speaker 1: just beasts and he makes the extraordinary look ordinary. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: it be interesting if they took another tackle here to
Speaker 1: protect Murray who has great movement skills um Or You
Speaker 1: definitely could see him going with the receiver to Uh.
Speaker 1: And who would it be because it seems to me
Speaker 1: Greens And you talked to Dane about this a lot
Speaker 1: during your pro Prospect profile series that Lamb is more
Speaker 1: the thicker guy uh stout uh and Judy is probably
Speaker 1: more in short area spaces. The quicker guy maybe the
Speaker 1: more accomplished route runner. But both both of these guys
Speaker 1: are tremendous targets. And who's your head coach, Cliff Kingsbury,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And I think the Cardinals are
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting because they could go in a number
Speaker 1: of ways. And let's when you look at the Jaguars
Speaker 1: at nine, this is interesting too because Gardner Minshew is
Speaker 1: clearly he clearly won the job over Nick Foles, who
Speaker 1: was traded to the Bears, and mel Kiper has the
Speaker 1: Jaguars selecting Javon Kinlaw, the defensive tackle out of South Carolina. Now,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars also have two first round picks, so so
Speaker 1: do they want to make a move for one a
Speaker 1: quarterback and move up or do they sit where they
Speaker 1: are and take whoever comes to them, or do they
Speaker 1: also want to trade up for somebody else, like I
Speaker 1: don't know, let's say Isaiah Simmons, just to say somebody
Speaker 1: as an example. They have the ammunition to load up
Speaker 1: if they want. They also have like three third round
Speaker 1: picks there or two or three third round picks and
Speaker 1: three fourth round picks. Like they're loaded. They have the
Speaker 1: ammunition to go where they want. I don't think the
Speaker 1: Jaguars trade up unless they're targeting a quarterback. That they
Speaker 1: are not going move up unless they have a quarterback
Speaker 1: in mind. And then also, what's gonna happen with that
Speaker 1: great pass rusher there who they just franchised. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be very interesting. You're talking about Yannick
Speaker 1: and Jack? Yeah, why don't you pronounce it for me
Speaker 1: and go way? Yeah? One, they just put the tag
Speaker 1: on him. He wants a long term contract. Would he
Speaker 1: be on the move? Draft weekend will will they entertain offers.
Speaker 1: Will teams be calling the Jaguars because most teams in
Speaker 1: the National Football League those are the two things you're
Speaker 1: gonna target on defense needs pass rushers. You never can
Speaker 1: have enough pass rushers in NFL. The second part of
Speaker 1: that equation, of course, is cornerbacks. And mel Kiper's mock
Speaker 1: draft were now at number ten of the Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: and most mock drafts from a Jets perspective have had
Speaker 1: them taking a receiver or an offensive tackle. In terms
Speaker 1: of offensive tackle and Keiper's mock draft, the second one
Speaker 1: comes off the board at ten. The first one came
Speaker 1: off at eight Tristan Worth's. The second one is McKay Beckton,
Speaker 1: who's the mountain of a man going to the Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: who agreed to terms and I believe that they confirmed
Speaker 1: that they signed Jack Conklin this free agency period. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: so the fit there is is Beckton a guy who
Speaker 1: can project at left tackle on the next level. Um
Speaker 1: because at Louisville Green's he's playing on the right side.
Speaker 1: Correct He played this past season on the left side
Speaker 1: and the year before that on the right side, so
Speaker 1: he has experienced at both Okay, So at three sixty plus,
Speaker 1: is that guy going to take care of Baker on
Speaker 1: the left side because I we talked to certain people
Speaker 1: think that he's best suited to play on the right
Speaker 1: side on Sundays. McKay Beckton, Tristan Worfs, Jedrick Wills, and
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas have all played right tack at one point
Speaker 1: or another in their collegiate career. The only two that
Speaker 1: have played the left side are Mackay Beckton and Andrew Thomas,
Speaker 1: and so far in this mock draft, Beckton comes off
Speaker 1: at ten Andrew Thomas still on the board when the
Speaker 1: Jets select at eleven. And now let's dive in here.
Speaker 1: The New York Jets in mel Kiper's mock draft select
Speaker 1: Jedrick Wills, the offensive tackle out of Alabama, over the
Speaker 1: other tackle, Andrew Thomas, and they have their pick of
Speaker 1: the litterat receiver in the scenario if they so choose, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and listen, don't you think the Jets are going if
Speaker 1: they stay at eleven. This is likely not exactly the
Speaker 1: way Kiper put it out here as far as the
Speaker 1: top ten, but this scenario you could certainly envision it
Speaker 1: where no receiver has been taken off the board and
Speaker 1: you're staring looking at Lamb and Judy and at least
Speaker 1: one tackle, maybe two tackles, And if you're Joe Douglas,
Speaker 1: I think that's a great situation to be in if
Speaker 1: this is the way how it plays out. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: absolutely agree. I mean, I've seen mok traft cy A
Speaker 1: that have all four tackles off the board by the
Speaker 1: time the Jets select at eleven, and that could change.
Speaker 1: That was before the free agency period opened, So free
Speaker 1: agency obviously has a big ripple effect for the draft,
Speaker 1: and I think it'd be uh, really interesting to see
Speaker 1: what Joe Douglas does, especially when you factor in what
Speaker 1: we just learned at the beginning of this podcast that
Speaker 1: Robby Anderson sign or reportedly agreed to terms with the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. So let me add something here. It was like,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me at all if if Joe Douglas
Speaker 1: decided to pick a receiver no matter who he signs
Speaker 1: in free agency. Agree is a couple of updates and
Speaker 1: free agency to earlier Today reports National Reports. Philip doors Set,
Speaker 1: who played the last two years with the New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: had four touchdowns each of the past two seasons with
Speaker 1: Tommy TV twelve throwing him of football. He has agreed
Speaker 1: to terms of Seattle Seahawks, Emmanuel Sanders and system. Familiarity
Speaker 1: with Adam Case, experience a lot of success with him
Speaker 1: in Denver a few years back, a little bit of
Speaker 1: an older guy thirty three years old, I think now
Speaker 1: he signed on to play with Drew Brees for forty
Speaker 1: one year old Drew Brees in New Orleans. So, uh,
Speaker 1: free agency certainly is not done. But a couple of those,
Speaker 1: uh you know, more prominent names I guess have come
Speaker 1: off the board. Expect the Jets to continue to fill
Speaker 1: out the roster as we go. We know that's going
Speaker 1: to happen. Uh. So many waves and multiple tiers of
Speaker 1: free agency. Um, but this is when you have to
Speaker 1: trust your evaluations. Meaning so when these guys go and
Speaker 1: they look at their overall board, where is LAMB, where
Speaker 1: is Judy? And then where is the tackle, whe whether
Speaker 1: it wills, whether it be packed in? Where are they
Speaker 1: and they are they close together? And what is more
Speaker 1: of a need? Because you never go kneed over best
Speaker 1: player available, but if it's close greens, then that's when
Speaker 1: the tie comes into an equation. We don't know. These
Speaker 1: are not finished products yet, the Jets offensive line, nor
Speaker 1: the Jets receiver group, of course, especially on a day
Speaker 1: we're hearing about Robby Anderson and Green of terms with Carolina. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that the Jets in this scenario are in
Speaker 1: a very good spot because they can select a tackle,
Speaker 1: assuming that they have a good grade on on one
Speaker 1: of the tackles left available of the core for that
Speaker 1: would be Jeddrick Wills, who mel kayper pegs to the Jets,
Speaker 1: or Andrew Thomas, and then to your point, pick of
Speaker 1: the literate receiver. So I think the Jets are in
Speaker 1: a good spot. And Matt Miller said this is how
Speaker 1: all closed out the podcast. In terms of Jerry Judy.
Speaker 1: He said, when I watched Jerry Judy, I see Odell Beckham,
Speaker 1: and then when you think of someone like Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 1: I've heard him compared to more of a similar game
Speaker 1: to DeAndre Hopkins. Not to say that any of those
Speaker 1: two players are going to become, you know, Pro bowlers,
Speaker 1: all pros like Odell and DeAndre Hopkins, but if you
Speaker 1: want to describe their style of game, those are the
Speaker 1: comparisons that are being made to the top of the
Speaker 1: class in the current state of the NFL. And I've
Speaker 1: also seen Dane Brugler said that when you look at
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy, he's almost he He has a very similar
Speaker 1: game to a former Alabama first round pick and Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 1: Extremely sharp route runner, gets open, good hands. So the
Speaker 1: Jets are in a good spot regardless of what happens back,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get you get to your comments here.
Speaker 1: Will's real real quickly. Will's more draft pund this right now.
Speaker 1: Projecting him right tackle correct, yes, because he's played right
Speaker 1: tackle and all of his high school career and collegiate career,
Speaker 1: so obviously teams are gonna look at him at left,
Speaker 1: but they might just say, hey, listen, lock and load,
Speaker 1: we're putting him on the right side. Something to consider.
Speaker 1: I think this offensive tackle class up top is probably
Speaker 1: one of the better ones, at least from a projection
Speaker 1: standpoint that we've seen in the in the past. And
Speaker 1: to what we've been saying all along here at eleven.
Speaker 1: If this is the way the draft shakes out, the
Speaker 1: Jets are in a good spot. Is going to be
Speaker 1: an album player too, And I know that was the
Speaker 1: guy A lot of people are talking about before the year,
Speaker 1: and now these other three guys did play awfully well,
Speaker 1: uh maybe interviewed well, uh, performed, They've done nice jobs
Speaker 1: throughout the off season. But I would say Andrew Thomas,
Speaker 1: let's not think about him in a mix. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: I think. I talked about this with Charles Davis at
Speaker 1: the combine and I asked him, don't you feel like
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas might have slid down in the rankings just
Speaker 1: because he's been under the microscope for longer than the
Speaker 1: rest of these players. It's almost like you forget that
Speaker 1: he's a very good player. He's anchored the left side
Speaker 1: of the line for George of the past two seasons. Again,
Speaker 1: would it makes sense to draft a receiver at eleven,
Speaker 1: whether it's C. D. Judy, even somebody like Henry Ruggs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as long as it fits your scheme and as long
Speaker 1: as the greatest proper and it's not too rich in
Speaker 1: your eyes at that spot, and you bet, and the
Speaker 1: Jets could very well take receivers and rounds two and three,
Speaker 1: and Jets have some ammunition too, And we'll break that
Speaker 1: down as we get closer to the draft. And that
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