WEBVTT - LISTEN | Jets Free Agency Update - Ep. 7 (3/25) 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:05.280 Welcome for another edition of the Official Jets Podcast, powered 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:08.639 by Amazon Web Services e A and Flora Park Holding 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.879 it down Ethan and Hoboken three forty pm Tuesday, March 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:16.400 twenty four. On today's episode, we're gonna do a little 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:18.680 bit of draft talk. I know that it's free agency 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.560 right now, but Mel Kiper of ESPN just put out 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.079 his new mock draft, basically a ripple effect of the 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.080 first wave of free agency, and e A and I 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.600 will be going through the top ten and of course 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.680 the Jets at eleven basically see who could take who 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.800 come April. We're officially just under a month away from 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:42.240 the NFL Draft April to April. And Olivia Land is 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.920 caught up with Cynthia Freeland. That'll be our interview today. 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:48.319 And really this is the second podcast in a row 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.200 where we have some breaking news right off the top. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:55.480 Yesterday it was reportedly Jordan Jenkins resigned with the Jets, 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.880 and today the Jets had to say goodbye to Robby Anderson, 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:03.200 who reportedly signed with the Carolina Panthers and reuniting with 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:07.640 his college coach Matt Rule reportedly agreed to terms. That's 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.120 Adam Schefter here a couple of minutes ago. As you 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:14.640 said Greens at his three forty one on Tuesday, things 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.880 in the National Football League just continue to come in 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:23.560 multiple waves of free agency, reuniting with Matt Rule there 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.840 in Carolina and a former Jet and there are no 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:31.280 signal caller that is Teddy Bridgewater. Of course, Robbie did 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:35.520 some nice things here for the Jets um band. Joe 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.840 Douglas and Adam Gates both very complimentary if him. But 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:43.280 with that being said, uh, free agencies fluid, and you 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:48.040 know this, Joe Douglas will have a plan. All right, 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.880 let's dive into some draft talk here. So what we're 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.200 gonna do is we're gonna go through mel Kiper's one 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:58.000 through eleven where the Jets selects, and we're gonna basically 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.920 talk about who melt slow at it at each pick, 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.120 and then who we think could be other options for 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.200 those teams. And really, when you look at the first 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.239 and second pick, you think of Joe Burrow has been 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.880 He's been pegged to the Cincinnati Bengals from the get 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:14.440 so I don't really want to talk about him and 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:18.160 Chase Young the same thing in Washington, and especially when 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.680 you think that the Redskins just traded for Kyle Allen. 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.760 I know there was some speculation that maybe two attack 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.880 of Bayla or Justin Herbert could be the guy at 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:30.880 number two. And really from all along, you see a 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.359 lot of the draft pundens say that the draft starts 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.639 at number three because if you're looking for the second quarterback, 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.680 assuming Joe Burrow goes one, who's gonna trade up to three? 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.560 And the two most popular answers are the Chargers and 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.400 the Dolphins. But right now, the way mel Kiper has it, 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.720 no trades in his mock draft, jeff A Couda the 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:57.080 cornerback from Ohio State number three to the Detroit Lions. Yeah, 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.839 Green's a Couta is the Navy been in there by 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:05.840 most draft pardons for months. In fact, everybody should read 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.600 up on what you've been doing with the athletics. Dane 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.919 Brugler on New York Just dot com, You guys are 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.560 actually going to start up that series again. It's March 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.680 twenty four, were less than a month away from the 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.400 two thousand, twenty NFL Draft, and everybody's been looking at 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.040 the Lions right for a long time and saying that 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:28.400 is the flash point they have their quarterback in place 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.919 in Matt Stafford. Does a Kuda come off the board 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:38.600 that quickly? And if the Dolphins and or the Chargers 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:42.400 want to get up the three, what is the price. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.240 I'm just looking at Miami right now, just the first 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:50.960 round picks alone. Greens they had the fifth pick, pick pick. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.360 I think they have more than enough ammunition when you 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.720 look at their whole stockpile two thousand twenty, they can 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.360 get up there if they're targeting to to three. I 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.400 think Detroit, if you're looking at it from alliance perspective, 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.800 fabulous position because you might be able to go back 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.200 to five and or of five or six and get 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:15.560 the player you want. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.320 I think the Dolphins have the ammunition to get up 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.840 to three. And really I don't know why the Lions 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.080 wouldn't fall back to five if those two teams make 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.480 a trade. It feels like the Lions could, in theory, 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.840 still take somebody like Jeff Acuda at five. I'm interested 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.400 to see where the Giants go, and the Giants right 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.560 now have the number four overall pick. In mel Kiper's 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:40.200 mock draft, he has them taking Isaiah Simmons, who's You know, 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.840 he's listed at linebacker, but he's a Swiss Army knife 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.080 for the Clempton Tigers. He's played safety, he's played linebacker, 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.280 he's played nickel, he's played outside corner. He plays everywhere 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.640 for the Tigers. And a lot of other mock drafts 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.640 also have the Giants taking an offensive lineman, similar to 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.679 what the Jets want to do and what the Bills 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:00.760 did last year. You build a all around your young 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:05.400 quarterback end in the offensive line scenario, such would be 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.279 the case for Daniel Jones. Now this is saying that 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.919 Dave Gettlman GM of the Giants would go on the 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.920 defensive side of the ball and take a player really 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.760 that can play anywhere on the field. Well, Simmons seems 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.480 like a unique player. You might be the most versatile 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.560 player in the entire draft class. Isn't that fair to say, Greens? 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:29.240 You just mentioned everything that he did at Clemson. You know, 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.280 I'd love to be in these draft meetings when the 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:37.640 team's watch tape of Simmons because how do they want 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.719 to use them on the next level? And I'm not 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:44.160 saying we're moving in the National Football League now to 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:51.600 more of a position less um player. Evaluation scale, I think, 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.279 and Simmons is a perfect example of that. Now, if 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.120 you're the Giants, though, and you have a quarterback entering 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.479 his second season and they do have a new coach 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.719 there the Giants, is he your guy? I'm not saying 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:09.080 the Giants are gonna take a quarterback at four, but 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.560 if you know he's your guy, do you want to 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:16.080 take that investment and give him a tackle? Because the 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.880 Giants do, even though they've made a move or two 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.160 in free agency, they have some question marks up front. 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:27.520 Green's yes, they do. And Nate Solder still on the team. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:31.560 He plays left tackle, and they had some struggles, uh all, 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.000 on the line last year. And you know, it'll be 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.400 very interesting to see if the first tackle comes off 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.560 the board at four, which if the Jets were in 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.919 the market, might not bode well for them at eleven 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.240 based on the ripple effect. And you know, really quickly 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.599 here before we hear from Olivia, you look at the 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.200 Chargers at six, another possible trade up option, or maybe 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.200 they just sit where they are. And I know basically 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:58.320 every my draft has them selecting either to a or 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.720 Justin Herbert. Whoever, the Dolphins do not select in In 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.960 each person's respective mock draft. But then I've also seen 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:06.560 a couple of mock drafts and I want to get 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.840 your opinion on this that have the Chargers taking a 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.360 tackle to protect whoever plays back there, assuming it's not 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:17.320 justin Herbert or to a Well, I'm looking at the 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.360 Charges right now and saying, I think they've already made 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:24.400 some line improvements trade turners there. They picked up Brian 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:28.440 Boulog on free agency, the former longtime Green Bay Packle's 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:33.000 right tackle, so pouncy. You're hoping, if you're a Chargers fan, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.080 that he is going to be your center for sixteen 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:40.360 games next season. So I think they've done a couple 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:42.960 of moves here in free agency where they've fortified the 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.040 line quite a bit. I still think the play for 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:50.280 them is going after a quarterback. I'm just wondering if 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:56.080 the Dolphins and the Chargers have both their mindset on 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.880 getting to uh no matter what. The wild card here 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:04.800 is the Carolina Panthers. Yes, they reached agreement with Robbie 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:09.840 Anderson according to Adam Schufter today, but they also officially 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:14.200 released Cam Newton. With the Chargers and Anthony Lynn be interested, 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.880 they got to Rod Taylor. They're a veteran who did 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.440 some nice things with the Buffalo Bills. But with the 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:23.280 Chargers moving into that new stadium, want to take a 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:28.760 flyer on Cam Newton. Yeah, I think that's a fascinating 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:31.880 I think it'll be fascinating to see where Cam goes, 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.160 where Jamis Winston also goes. He remains unsigned as we 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.920 record this podcast. You know they could break any second 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.679 that he reportedly agreed to term somewhere. But for now, 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:44.920 let's hear from Olivia land As, who spoke with Cynthia Freeland, 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.800 and then on the backside will go through seven through eleven. Now, 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:52.560 before we kind of got rolling here, we were talking 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.679 about some of the stuff you've been doing to keep 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:58.480 yourself occupied, and you mentioned how you're dabbling in some 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.040 teaching right now uson I UM. I have a lot 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.960 of friends with kids and they're having hard time with 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.959 this homeschooling and one particular area that is a really 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.600 big source of concerned math um where I have some 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:16.600 some expertise. I am not a teacher, and I give 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.719 so much more every day. I have more and more 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.600 respect for teachers because I'm not gonna lie to you. 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.960 Watching and listening to what these kids have to these parents. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.440 So I've been basically trying to take some of my 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:33.040 football knowledge and football experience and turn it into hopefully 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.280 fun lesson plans. And then kids have been sending me 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:40.520 homework and we go over it in small groups on zoom. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.280 So I am not a teacher, but I'm pretending to 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.120 be a teacher during this quarantine time to help the 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:50.959 parents out with a little bit of math fun too. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.280 It's it's awesome that you're using your skills to help others, 0:09:55.320 --> 0:10:02.360 so hopefully we will see um trying. You're self appointed, 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.840 It gives it gives a huge perspective, right, and a 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:12.480 lot of appreciation for educators. Definitely not so so hard 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.560 So well, Cynthia, I want to dive a little bit 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.920 more into what you do for the NFL network. We 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.480 already mentioned how you are a data scientists and predictive 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.440 analytics expert. You actually do a lot of content with 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:29.719 the jets. When you look at your job and this 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.200 free agency period, with how unique this has been with 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:37.679 the coronavirus pandemic going on, how exactly does a data 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:42.200 scientist or predictive analysts expert play into the role of 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.360 free agency and predicting what can be some of the 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.240 best met needs for certain teams. So it's really about 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:54.360 having a plan, being collaborative, and then executing that plan. Now, 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.080 I think the first day of free agency, you know, 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:58.319 people were like, what is it just Canna do the 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:03.000 sony and people were you know, it didn't seem like 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.040 the big splashy moves were going the Jets way, which 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:11.000 honestly was really good. Then the deals start could come through. 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:16.080 You see a corner that really played above average last season, 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:19.000 Brian Pool being re signed for five million. That is 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:24.040 a great contract. It is what's that I said, a 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:27.679 good snag for great snag because it's all about return 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.480 on investment for the strategy that you want to enact. Right, So, 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.440 if your strategy is to play defense with the pieces 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.560 you've already paid for. C. J. Mosley was a big 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.760 acquisition last year, so now you have to take the 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.560 pieces you that you have and you know, look, the 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.360 run defense for the Jets is a huge source of 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:50.760 strength last season. The past defense could could use some work. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:55.840 So reinforcing that with the right types of players at 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.880 the right price, that's really how you create the best 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.600 strategy to win, especially in the division that now you know, 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.040 it's anyone's division. Really, you know, like there's a lot 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.840 of question marks kind of on every team. And you 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.840 have a quarterback that your coach believes in, which, by 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.280 the way, that's that's a really big deal. So there's 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.079 a lot of really interesting things happening. Reinforcing the old line, 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.200 figuring out how to protect your asset. The most valuable 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.920 player on any team is the quarterback, just is right. 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:29.560 So ultimately, you know, finding ways to reinforce the assets 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.840 that you already have. You've already paid for love Bell. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.520 It's a sun cost. You can't go back and reconsider it. 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.640 You have to take the hundred nine million dollars for 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.880 this year's cap and allocate it in a way that 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.280 gives you the best chance to win. And that's really 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.800 I've been really you know, it's it's not a sexy 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.439 offseason for the Jets. You know, I don't mean to 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.120 you know, sure, Brian's Pool Gray super sexy, great, but 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:58.640 like a bunch of alignment three pound men also sexy, 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.320 but very meaningful, impactful. Well, when you look at the 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.080 Jets specifically, and I know that you were talking about 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:09.920 um finding the pieces that already worked implementing them. And 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.160 you know, the Jets haven't, like you said, necessarily made 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.559 a huge splash in that first wave of free agency. 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.360 But when you take a look at the Green and 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.760 White and some of their needs at this point in time, 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.559 when you consider some of the data that you are 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.960 reviewing on a day to day basis, what sticks out 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.560 to you most about some of the immediate needs of 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.760 this team. Well, obviously, look, I spent a lot of 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.160 my thesis when I was in school, and you know, 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:39.040 figuring out how to really become impactful in the sports 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.800 analytics space and football, particularly because my background. I worked 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.000 actually at the league office in on Park Avenue in 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.320 a financial strategy capacity ahead of the last c b A, 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.800 trying to figure out what's the right blend of products 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.120 and product for the league office. It's games, right, is it? 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.600 Sixteen and four? Seventeen and three? How many playoff games? 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.280 It's fun because I was in the league office ahead 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.400 of the last set of negotiations and the same things 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.160 came up in this set of negotiations. Really interesting to 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.880 see how it all evolved. But as I was doing that, 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.480 I noticed that there was a void in being able 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.760 to really connect the dots with you know, on field 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.240 and create a strategy that was team specific to create 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.440 the best products a k A chances to win as 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.760 defined by a team. Right. So when I look at 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.880 at what the Jets needs are, I think, you know, look, 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.400 they've started your address O line for sure. But you 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.480 almost can never address an O line too much, right, Like, 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.920 you know you can, you can, you can keep you know, 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.080 trying until get the right combination. And then, by the way, 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.080 like do you want to run outside zone rushing or what? 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.080 How do you want to use leve Bell best? Because 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.040 you paid for him, he's there, and how does that 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.640 work with Sam Donald? And oh, by the way, there 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.120 are questions at wide receiver and you've got to solve 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.200 those two. And in such a deep class and draft 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:01.160 in the draft for wide receivers, that's an interesting sort 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.440 of like, well, how do you want to play that strategy? 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.240 Which one is your favorite, which one matches what Adam 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.280 Gates wants to do? How do you want to make 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.760 it all work together? And by the way, there's four 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.240 tackles in this class that are really strong would be 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:18.640 great fits for the Jets. And I say, tackles very specifically, right, 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:22.440 So for me, short up the tackle, figure out how 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.920 to use the new pieces that you've got. Yes, George 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.280 Fant is now there. I'm I'm aware, you know, I'm 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.160 I'm following it too. But you can almost again, you 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:34.080 can almost never address an old line too much. And 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:38.160 I think the work that you're doing is so absolutely incredible, 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.200 and I think it's something that's been missing from the 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.240 NFL for a really long time. I wanted to circle 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.720 back really quickly. You did mention so the offensive line, 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.120 and we've already seen Joe Douglas taking the steps to 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.000 address the offensive line, but I wanted to circle back 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:58.040 on something you had said, mentioning how you notice there 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.840 was something missing and then you were able to come 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.720 up with this approach. And I'm assuming you had to 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.360 pitch it and then be able to get where you're 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.760 at today. What were some of the other steps that 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.600 you had to take to implement this new approach that 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:13.800 you've brought to the NFL, because I think it's been 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:19.359 so valuable for so many teams. Thank you. I like that. Um, Ultimately, 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.280 it's like like anything else, just like your job, just 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.920 like you know, an accountant or a teacher, or any 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:30.120 job you have to there's there's an element of trust 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.720 in and being able to deliver. Like so your boss 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.480 says OLIVERA you were you work from home during this time, 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.520 create these podcasts, make content that we want. There's a 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.480 level of trust there that you're going to do the 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.320 things that are your You have an understanding of what 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.720 your audience is looking for and how they can find it. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.480 It's the same thing with analytics and sports. The good 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:56.520 teams have a lock step between coach and front office 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.800 and their analytics staff. In the scout, they use all 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.040 of the tools available in their tool belt, and analytics 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.479 is one that helps create strategy. But when when it 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.359 comes to me, and because I touch all of the teams, 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.199 I get a chance to speak to many teams and 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.840 I get a chance to try to you know, look, 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.720 I tell I'm lucky. I'm super lucky because I get 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:21.440 to tell really positive stories. Because you know, when you're 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.960 when you're covering all of the teams, then you know 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.600 what is a bad What is a bad thing for 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.720 one team is actually often a good thing for another. 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.159 So you're you're trying to find positives and I'm able 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:37.880 to be to be useful because teams will ask me. 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.679 They'll be like, Cynthia, can you help me? When I 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.040 when I consult for teams, they'll be like, can you 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:48.000 help me, like structure and organize the analytics staff that 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.240 I have so that we can solve a question about 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.600 I'm going to use one that's absolutely not the jets, 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.880 you know, just because to keep everything, you know, because 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.800 I trust is a big deal. Right, helps you're out 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.840 which running back we should target of these five given 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:03.920 that we want to do this, and help me structure 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.680 my team so that the people who are my analytic 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.560 staff here they're feeling more useful. That's what the good 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.440 teams are doing. And I feel that's my favorite type 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.560 of projects because then I get to help people kind 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.920 of like you know, I think, I mean maybe maybe 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:19.720 I'm always a teacher, right like now that I think 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:23.080 about this, it sounds like it. Yeah, but I want 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.600 people to feel happy and satisfied. It math isn't very sexy. 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:30.399 It advanced math and going through and trying to you 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.159 know a lot of it is. Writing computer code also 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.919 not necessarily the most sexy thing, right, So you know, 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.320 you want to be around football and football is so 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.800 much fun and it the energy and you get wins 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.240 and losses, which is like, that's awesome in life, and 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.320 there they're almost inconsequence quental wins and losses, like when 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.280 I was a banker, you have a loss, like you 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.800 can get fired and it's scary, right you have lost here. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.399 Yet eventually if you have too many losses, you get fired. 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.760 But you know you get you get a chance next 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.359 Sunday again to go out there and improve yourself. So 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.480 it's interesting to see when you when you talk to teams, 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.359 making people useful and like strategizing how to you know, 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.960 use all of the different things available to it. There's 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.880 so many different data points now with the next gen 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.720 stats coming out, with people learning how to write different 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.800 types of computer code, there's tons of different ways that 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:19.919 you can be useful. And it's really about how you, like, 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.639 you know, create the structure that the coach trusts and 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:27.199 the GM trust and that people can use. Thanks to 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:31.160 Olivia and to Cynthia for joining the Official Jets podcast. Hey, 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.399 let's pick up right where we left off here so 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:35.520 we can get in seven to eleven because we're gonna 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.159 have a lot of thoughts once the Jets are on 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.640 the board you mentioned the Carolina Panthers. Mel Kuiper has 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.720 them selecting Derek Brown, the defensive tackle out of Auburn 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:49.640 who's widely regarded as the best interior guy. Javon Kinlaw 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:51.960 is also in that conversation, But Derek Brown is like 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.719 a he didn't test well at the Combine, but his 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.439 tape is so good. And I think the Panthers also, 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.959 I mean, I'm kind of viewing this with a jet scope. 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.119 So a lot of mock drafts have had receiver and 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:07.160 O line at eleven for the Jets, and I think 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.199 the Panthers probably not in the market for a receiver 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.399 at seven, but they could be in the market, I 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.480 would assume for a tackle at seven also. Yeah, but 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:18.480 you think about Rule and what he did a great 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.040 job at Temple and then he goes to Baylor in 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.800 that program was in ashes when he got there, and 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.720 what they did last year going to the Big Twelve 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:31.560 title game. They were a couple of quarters away from 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:35.720 making the College Football semifinals. So outstanding job on the 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:39.000 college level. Now he's taken his shot in the National 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:43.679 Football League with Carolina. Brown the more you talk about 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:47.400 Rule the more I think he does make sense there 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:51.800 because rules background is defense. You know, let's just keep 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.400 things rolling. We're looking at the Cardinals now at number eight, 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.639 and mel Kiper has them selecting Tristan Worth's and a 0:20:57.680 --> 0:20:59.800 couple of weeks ago, this was a popular spot for 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:05.199 Ceedee Lamb, who played with Kyler Murray at Oklahoma, and 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:10.359 Ceedee Lamb's the receiver, and now that they've traded for 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:14.720 DeAndre Hopkins, probably looking at a tackle here, or depending 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:18.280 on how certain things play out ahead of them, maybe 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:21.320 they look at somebody like Derek Brown if he falls, 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.520 or Isaiah Simmons, or even somebody I don't know if 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.120 he would fall this far, but somebody like Jeff Akuda. 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.600 Maybe he makes sense for the Cardinals at a because 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:32.359 Patrick Peterson's getting up there in age, and I know 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.960 they uh picked Byron Murphy last year in the second round, 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:41.720 but maybe they wanna improve their secondary. I think the 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.919 Cardinals are really interesting actually, so they already fortified the 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:49.320 tackle position, but you could set yourself up for a 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.679 long time if you go tackle here and you just 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.679 made an investment number one overall Kyler Murray. Now you 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.960 give them the shiny new toy who for my money, 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:03.080 Deandreakins is as good as any receiver in the National 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:08.720 Football League. He's always open Greens Uh, He physically is 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:15.280 just beasts and he makes the extraordinary look ordinary. Wouldn't 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:19.240 it be interesting if they took another tackle here to 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:23.800 protect Murray who has great movement skills um Or You 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.960 definitely could see him going with the receiver to Uh. 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:30.000 And who would it be because it seems to me 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:32.600 Greens And you talked to Dane about this a lot 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:38.760 during your pro Prospect profile series that Lamb is more 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:43.480 the thicker guy uh stout uh and Judy is probably 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:48.040