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Speaker 1: right here. You muted. Damn my boy, late boy, late boy? Muted? Man,
Speaker 1: what's going on out here? Make sure it's not red? Okay,
Speaker 1: make sure it's not red. There. There we go. Boy,
Speaker 1: we come from San Fa. We had a red eye
Speaker 1: red eye last night. No no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: got the future. I'll tell you what. Now. We we
Speaker 1: were here last night watching watching Luca Gett dunked on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're here. We were here real quick man, and that
Speaker 1: boy got post rash. That was that was uther. I
Speaker 1: ain't I thought this was gonna call a file. They
Speaker 1: did call it. I'm saying no and keep it. Nothing
Speaker 1: to do. I'm just saying, you dunk on me, and
Speaker 1: you and you hit me with an elbow like that. Look.
Speaker 1: I just seen Jordan. I seen Jordan dunk on posts.
Speaker 1: I see a lot of people get dumped on and
Speaker 1: they all even had to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Any he hit them with, he hit what he hit
Speaker 1: the too much you do it. But you know it's
Speaker 1: a poster. That was a poster. That was a poster
Speaker 1: for show h Yeah that was that was three Curson,
Speaker 1: it was. It was what it was. But yes, three
Speaker 1: in the series. So it's over. It's yeah and told
Speaker 1: now it's just doesn't matter. Can you just get it
Speaker 1: to five? You played game four the Mars or Pride games.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is the players that he's dan't
Speaker 1: even crazy. I'mnwa scrugs. Yeahs out all three in the
Speaker 1: Western convers finals. But I will simply say this, and
Speaker 1: I've been saying that since the Utah's heres, everything's gravy.
Speaker 1: Didn't expect him to be that, didn't. I just didn't
Speaker 1: did not expect them to get this far. There's a
Speaker 1: whole lot of learning going on. Sitting there in Game
Speaker 1: two in San Francisco when they were up nineteen, and
Speaker 1: I tweeted it out at halftime because a bunch of
Speaker 1: Math fans getting all giddy and people around me, I said,
Speaker 1: third quarters coming, this is when they do their damage.
Speaker 1: Why can't they figure out this boxing one whatever, this
Speaker 1: zone that they running in The minute I see Golden
Speaker 1: State hopping in the zone, I'm like, oh, we got nothing.
Speaker 1: They they gonna track, looking's gonna give it up and
Speaker 1: then they just gonna We're gonna go next and they
Speaker 1: just don't do it. They don't take it. They don't
Speaker 1: try to get the basketball, nothing, drive it. Okay, that
Speaker 1: was on the run. Steve Kirby like, run the zone,
Speaker 1: double him. I ain't gonna do Look and uh's Finney
Speaker 1: smith Man. They couldn't hit the bride side of a barn. Yes,
Speaker 1: any went like like that. It was terrible. It was bad.
Speaker 1: I do love how NFL players loved the NBA. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's their jam. I'm we wish, at least myself.
Speaker 1: I wish I was a hooper, Like I wish I
Speaker 1: had those skills to go on the court. Man, what
Speaker 1: you don't get your helmet on, you get all the
Speaker 1: visuals you I mean, you're like a rock stars. The
Speaker 1: pay is way better. I wish I was a church
Speaker 1: invited me to La Fitness one time and I saw
Speaker 1: his hooper skills and I was dropping. Don't let this
Speaker 1: man confusing. We got ran off the court. People was
Speaker 1: going against the shortest dude over there. It was about
Speaker 1: six four, so we ran off. I dropped some buckets too, though,
Speaker 1: you know I had I had about four. You know,
Speaker 1: you go about one's playing a twelve. I had about four,
Speaker 1: so I translate to eight. But yeah, I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 1: I wish I had skills. I wish I wish I
Speaker 1: had them skills. I said, man, it is it is.
Speaker 1: You saw them home since the game yesterday. So I mean,
Speaker 1: football players love the game, man. And then a lot
Speaker 1: of guys, and it's very interesting as you talked to
Speaker 1: players a lot um we're basketball players deep into their
Speaker 1: high school careers, and then they just kind of all right,
Speaker 1: did you get the growth is good? Stopped? We were
Speaker 1: talking to Sean Lee. We had Sean Leon and Sean
Speaker 1: leetom I was a basketball he was the real deals
Speaker 1: got to that point where okay, this is it Tony
Speaker 1: Roll people forget Tony Rosa basketball was All State in
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and was on the All State team with Karon
Speaker 1: Butler and and Karon Butler was in his district and
Speaker 1: Karen was on the Maverick twenty eleven NBA Championship team.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Tony six two and a half, I mean, boom,
Speaker 1: he stops. People get shocked all. Had a lady in
Speaker 1: the airport San Francisco tell me, yeah, Steph Curry so small,
Speaker 1: I said, he's sixty three. I just looks short on
Speaker 1: the court of the guys. He's tall. Dude though, like
Speaker 1: if you stay in that he's over. That's what makes
Speaker 1: the like Nate Robinson like those guys. But well when
Speaker 1: you see them be able to do what they were
Speaker 1: doing against dudes that this seven feet tall Nate Robinson
Speaker 1: with dunking on dude six five six six. Look at
Speaker 1: Chris Paul. Chris Paul like six even. But Chris Paul,
Speaker 1: he ain't even six foot. He's still out there. I've
Speaker 1: stood next to Chris and hey, they they the heights
Speaker 1: are pumped up. Speaking of hey man, my man got
Speaker 1: the shot off from big Dog Shack the kid the
Speaker 1: shock this you ain't saying see that what you say?
Speaker 1: Knew he saved his life and everything. Man, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, train did all that saved shock
Speaker 1: life and then he gave him a shout out saying
Speaker 1: hey to his daughter. Man, I'm telling it was when
Speaker 1: he happened, it was nice. Please please let us know
Speaker 1: about this man, what was going on? I tried in
Speaker 1: San Francisco and I get done with my lives. Shop
Speaker 1: a boy walking to the locker room and I see skill.
Speaker 1: He I said, my daughter doesn't really think I know you.
Speaker 1: I said, let's let's take a picture. What's her name, Sophie,
Speaker 1: Sophie a wash And then he cut a video as
Speaker 1: though that kind of video the kind of pay mccrazy
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, boy kind, they pay mc cray mc
Speaker 1: money to do. Who's who you beat from with y'all
Speaker 1: don't like no interviews or something? I think you get
Speaker 1: a video from t o then we player. This was
Speaker 1: from this from my child. I don't want the player.
Speaker 1: I don't need the player for my child. Five. She
Speaker 1: knows the shacts. She knows the Shactus and Barkley. That's
Speaker 1: all she knows. So and we were I was, we
Speaker 1: will get to the cowboys. We will get to the cowboys.
Speaker 1: So I was thanking the pr staff that helped me
Speaker 1: with a story on Reggie Bullock that we did. And
Speaker 1: he was casually talking to the guys and T and
Speaker 1: T's like, yeah, we got him a horse, so we're good.
Speaker 1: I was like a horse. He says, yeah, they wanted
Speaker 1: a horse for the pregame show. Barkley, Charles Barkley rode
Speaker 1: in on a horse outside female An Airline centers. Not
Speaker 1: he wrote, on a horse first, how you get up there?
Speaker 1: Look it up? They got them stairs. Yeah, tried to
Speaker 1: get on the Cowboys. You know, they got the stairs.
Speaker 1: Getting getting fun to watching Charles get on that was
Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun. And it what hit
Speaker 1: me him tying it back to the Cowboys. This is
Speaker 1: the second San Francisco team that's ending up playoff. Bye
Speaker 1: bye bye down space team here, so supporting nine. He's
Speaker 1: got the Cowboys Warriors about to get the Mavericks here.
Speaker 1: And and I had someone asked me Matt Dog Radio said, hey,
Speaker 1: have the Mavericks overtaking the Cowboys and turns of fantasis.
Speaker 1: I said, uh no, it'll and it won't never happen.
Speaker 1: They can go out there and win two back to
Speaker 1: back finals and this will still be a Cowboys base
Speaker 1: DFW area metroplex. It's just how this is. This is everything.
Speaker 1: And we were talking about us who was it? The
Speaker 1: mayor was talking about bringing another team in here. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: ain't they ain't no way that's gonna happen. It ain't.
Speaker 1: No wait, somebody he made because they didn't put the
Speaker 1: stadiums in Dallas and all the other stuff. And I
Speaker 1: don't know the history behind it, but I'm sure reason
Speaker 1: for why. I'm sure they tried, and it did. Jerry
Speaker 1: looked down at their fair park. The mayor at the time,
Speaker 1: um Laura. I can't remember her last name, but anyway,
Speaker 1: she basically said, you want it, you pay for it,
Speaker 1: trying to help, you know, Laura, Laura Miller, We're not
Speaker 1: We're not paying for stadiums here. Now. She was a conservative,
Speaker 1: and conservative principles if you apply them, tell you you
Speaker 1: know what, We're not using public funds to pay for
Speaker 1: your stadium. You're the cowboys, you're the NFL. You pay
Speaker 1: for it. Arlington, on the other hand, said, hey, we
Speaker 1: got half million dollars and they had people vote on it.
Speaker 1: And I was living in Arlington at the time, and
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels was here. They had Parcels out there pitching
Speaker 1: the stadium. I mean, they had me pushing it, are
Speaker 1: I mean? And that was Jerry's that he got it built.
Speaker 1: So half million dollars went to Jerry Jones, and taxpayer
Speaker 1: have a billion million gonna do that. I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: thank thank you, thirty five hundred million dollars. And so
Speaker 1: that's how how it got built. So that's so Dallas
Speaker 1: had an opportunity but did not take advantage of it.
Speaker 1: And he's mad at the hockey team. He mad at
Speaker 1: the baseball. Hockey team may leave too. Okay, first saw
Speaker 1: was it twenty twenty two. Five years, you may not
Speaker 1: have any team playing in that venue five years, Mark
Speaker 1: marks lead. Mark's gonna build his across the way. They
Speaker 1: already got some they already been working on land. So
Speaker 1: he's gonna build a new arena across the way because
Speaker 1: all these all these you want your own building. Have
Speaker 1: your own building, then you can do other events outside
Speaker 1: of just owned. So that's where everybody's trying to make
Speaker 1: it an entertainment venue. Everybody's looking at what Jerry's done,
Speaker 1: and they're trying to do in. The Angels are trying
Speaker 1: to do it for baseball. They're out of town here,
Speaker 1: mean they got no grass. You know, seth fakes up.
Speaker 1: So when they leave, this tractor pools its concours as everything.
Speaker 1: It's whatever they can get in there to make money.
Speaker 1: So Mark's gonna go build his own stadium and have
Speaker 1: that over there, and then the Stars Starts may leave too.
Speaker 1: Stars could end up going to Arlington, Starts getting to
Speaker 1: go to First I mean, there's going to be options.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised. Eric johnsonby ain't nobody in town. Man,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna have no sports teams well outside of Mark
Speaker 1: Marcos stay in Dallas. So Marcols just go across the
Speaker 1: way thirty. You have Mark, but the hockey team who knows?
Speaker 1: Who knows? Maybe so much. Having a stadium downtown bring
Speaker 1: so much business in there, like all those boards and
Speaker 1: restaurants that are trying to be right around that way.
Speaker 1: It's look, man, everybody's traded to the art in fair Park.
Speaker 1: It would have been a state of the art facility
Speaker 1: up there in Fair Park. You know, you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: had players living all the way out of Firstco. There
Speaker 1: would have been more people coming into Dallas. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they would have been pracing somewhere in the city. I
Speaker 1: swear them. That's where for football, that's where the money's made.
Speaker 1: The practice facility because you guys knows where guys don't
Speaker 1: live around it. And to me, I go back to
Speaker 1: for Arlington, you had Jerry build, you know, Jerry World
Speaker 1: right over there where Texas where the Texas Rangers are
Speaker 1: Texas lie but across the way where they used to
Speaker 1: have the old six Flags Mall. The other side where
Speaker 1: they had the old six Flags mall, they had all
Speaker 1: them strip clubs and used car lots, all that over there.
Speaker 1: That's what they should have gave Jerry some more money
Speaker 1: and land to go have the practice. Put that over there,
Speaker 1: and then you'd have had the practice facility right over
Speaker 1: there by the stadium, and then you could have got
Speaker 1: players and more money within right over there. What has
Speaker 1: done to Frisco. I mean, it's just so we would
Speaker 1: all we've all been driving up to Arlington. Thank you
Speaker 1: for not giving him. Okay, I'm enjoying my time Frisco.
Speaker 1: But actually, what would have happened for for you know,
Speaker 1: those with money like Barry west Lake the same way
Speaker 1: they are irving, that would have been much of a
Speaker 1: difference you'd have had You'd have had the rookie free
Speaker 1: ain't living out in an artics in an eight eight
Speaker 1: and a couple of cats, no trouble, which right like
Speaker 1: lake Ford, That's how Chicago was out there in lake
Speaker 1: Forest and were nothing out there in Lake Forced, they
Speaker 1: would have had more Arlanston than lake Forest because it
Speaker 1: literally wasn't nothing out there in lake Forest and sat place.
Speaker 1: They're moving to Arlington Heights, so that's gonna be where
Speaker 1: they're gonna where that racetrack was. They're gonna build the
Speaker 1: stadium with the racetrack. And once again they're all trying
Speaker 1: to They're all trying to copy Jerry. How can we
Speaker 1: go out here and make a facility a whole you know,
Speaker 1: we want we want sports for our football team, other
Speaker 1: things and retail and shops, and so what we see
Speaker 1: with Stan Cronky has done that's all built off a
Speaker 1: racetrack as well well Hollywood Park and everything that he's
Speaker 1: building out there. It's gonna be a phenomenal, you know, facility.
Speaker 1: But everyone is copying Jerry Jones. There's really two owners
Speaker 1: I think of that really have trans formed the way
Speaker 1: people see um venues and sports teams. Jerry West I
Speaker 1: means Jerry Buss, who had to buy for sixty two million.
Speaker 1: I was being told yesterday by Ray Ritter, who used
Speaker 1: to work for the Lakers now works for the Wars.
Speaker 1: He bought the Kings, the Lakers and the Forum for
Speaker 1: sixty sixty two sixty two million dollars, and then Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones bought Texas Stating and the Cowboys for like a
Speaker 1: buck eighty nine turned it into five points something billion. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's not act like sixty two and a buck eighty
Speaker 1: nine ain't a lot of That's a lot, time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, that's a lot right now. Just amazing
Speaker 1: investments of all time, Amazing investments of all time. All right, Um, Cowboys,
Speaker 1: that was Cowboys. Not another team coming in here to
Speaker 1: try to split time with the Cowboys and not gonna
Speaker 1: have a hard time people in the building too. Jerry,
Speaker 1: it happened, guarantee that I did not hear one thing
Speaker 1: about the forty nine ers when I was in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: not one thing, not one. I wonder, why don't they
Speaker 1: just had a nice run? I mean, you would think
Speaker 1: the city would still be a buzz. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of the difference between that town in this town. We're
Speaker 1: still talking about the Cowboys and Cowboys or front and center.
Speaker 1: I saw one Niners jacket and I saw one T shirt. Well, now, okay,
Speaker 1: because Golden State went through a town where they were
Speaker 1: on the way to being a dynasty, all right, so
Speaker 1: a lot of people were transforming into Golden State fans.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, it started to becoming a basketball city.
Speaker 1: And then now they're rolling how they're rolling down. This
Speaker 1: is the total opposite of what we got going on
Speaker 1: here in Dallas. Well and the baseball state of the Giants.
Speaker 1: Have you never been the best ball park in the
Speaker 1: country I've ever been to, But they've won they starting
Speaker 1: in two thousand and ten. They ended up winning three
Speaker 1: World Series and they basically won two thousand and ten, two,
Speaker 1: two thout fourteen, and then you look at the Warriors run.
Speaker 1: They started winning in the twenty fifteen one three championships. Then,
Speaker 1: so you've got two of the franchises in town that,
Speaker 1: if not just one, put up three championships and start play.
Speaker 1: They got guys to take take you out of looking
Speaker 1: at who the football team is. You're looking at Deebo
Speaker 1: Samue and Jimmy Garoppolo versus Clay and stuff. People are
Speaker 1: they gravitating toward clans? And look at the national commercials
Speaker 1: I mean, you know Clay and you got three those
Speaker 1: and Buffalo stuff got all these commercials Jimmy Jimmy Garoppolos
Speaker 1: and a subway commercial. Oh he died. He just everybody
Speaker 1: got a subway that what's going on. They picked up
Speaker 1: everybody that they passed. But they also have Steph Curry.
Speaker 1: I bet Steph Curry commercial logan. It runs a lot,
Speaker 1: it runs more. It runs a lot, it runs a
Speaker 1: lot more. And I just it was just very interesting
Speaker 1: just thinking about looking at their football team out there.
Speaker 1: And by the way, during that run from twenty ten,
Speaker 1: when the Giants started winning in in the Warriors, the
Speaker 1: Niners played in the Super Bowl twice, just didn't win them,
Speaker 1: just just did not win them. But nor Harball took
Speaker 1: them and they ended up losing to the Ravens. And
Speaker 1: then then you had Kyle Shanahan take the loss to
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. But it just wasn't on the radars,
Speaker 1: and I just kind of found interesting because you know,
Speaker 1: Cowboys still on the radar. I mean I found myself
Speaker 1: out there doing talking about the Cowboys, like you know,
Speaker 1: Mark Cubans, only the team's just two thousands. Is a
Speaker 1: fourth trip to the Western Conference Finals. During that time,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have yet to play in the NFC Championship
Speaker 1: game at all to get to the final four and
Speaker 1: their sport. And yeah, it still comes back to the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: because this is a Cowboys towns. The first professional team
Speaker 1: here in Dallas Fort Worth in nineteen sixty That's when
Speaker 1: the Cowboys got here. Rangers get here in nineteen seventy two,
Speaker 1: Mavericks get here in nineteen ninety Stars in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1: So this they've had the head start they've won. I mean,
Speaker 1: you think about it. By the time the Rangers got here,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had won their first World championship nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 1: So this town is always going to be about the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, the football towns, the football state. It's just
Speaker 1: ingrain and what people do from the time they grow up,
Speaker 1: just football, and it matters. Maverick's winning is good any
Speaker 1: football season, Hey, football season. We got OTA's coming up
Speaker 1: this week, you know. So we're going to get right
Speaker 1: back into the Cowboys and we'll take a break. And
Speaker 1: I want to ask this question, who, in your mind
Speaker 1: has the best opportunity to be Dak Prescott's number two
Speaker 1: target outside of c d Land to start the season,
Speaker 1: because they've already said Michael Gallup right, Michael Gallup's expected
Speaker 1: to miss two maybe three games to start the season.
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Speaker 1: Undrafted free agent Saintings for the Cowboys. They are now
Speaker 1: here doing their thing. I'm new, he scrugs. OTAs coming
Speaker 1: up this week? What advice would you give the undrafted
Speaker 1: rookies about how they should go about their jobs this week?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, undrafted rookies. What you should
Speaker 1: do is go find coast fossil. You make sure that
Speaker 1: you are in his ear and you're asking him what
Speaker 1: you need to do to make the squad, because most
Speaker 1: likely you're going to have to be a special teams contributor,
Speaker 1: probably playing at least four of them core game. So
Speaker 1: you got to be a core special teamer unless you're
Speaker 1: just some special talent to where they automatically gonna make
Speaker 1: you're a starter. And if you're thinking that way, you're
Speaker 1: probably ain't gonna be one, all right, So make sure
Speaker 1: you find out what you need to do to make
Speaker 1: the team and contribute on special teams and go out
Speaker 1: there and give it everything you got. Get in your playbook.
Speaker 1: Don't be one of those guys who goes out there
Speaker 1: and doesn't know what the assignment was the night before.
Speaker 1: Right when you get out there, and make sure you're
Speaker 1: able to make your checks, make your calls and uh
Speaker 1: and fulfill your responsibility on offense or defense, because what
Speaker 1: you don't want is to get in that film room
Speaker 1: and they say this, dude, this is a guy who
Speaker 1: cannot pick up offense or defense, so we cannot depend
Speaker 1: or trust him to put them in the game without
Speaker 1: a doubt. You one hundred percent right. And what these
Speaker 1: undrafted guys gotta understand is you know, when you're drafted,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get they're gonna make excuses, especially if you're
Speaker 1: in the top three rounds, they're gonna make excuses for
Speaker 1: why you you didn't show up or you didn't you know,
Speaker 1: play to your best of your abilities. When you're undrafted,
Speaker 1: you don't get those excuses. You don't. It's either you
Speaker 1: can play or you can't play. So mccrai is one
Speaker 1: hundred percent right. You gotta go find your special teams coach.
Speaker 1: That's what me and him did. We went to Dicon
Speaker 1: Milliss even though we felt like we were playing good
Speaker 1: on defense, we went to Dicon. Millisson was like, man,
Speaker 1: what can we do to further our you know, career
Speaker 1: basically with Dallas Cowboys, and he's become a core special teamer.
Speaker 1: And that's what we did. We took it to heart
Speaker 1: and ended up proving, um, you know, dividends for us.
Speaker 1: But as an undrafted guy, you've got to make friends
Speaker 1: with that special teams coordinator. You gotta make him his
Speaker 1: best friend, and you gotta go out there and not
Speaker 1: saying that defense is second string or secondary, but you
Speaker 1: gotta make special teams a priority because that's the way
Speaker 1: you're gonna get on the football field. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: only one guy I know of that was undrafted who
Speaker 1: didn't play special teams but made the team, and that
Speaker 1: was Cole Beasley and he and he actually quit in
Speaker 1: training camp like that, quit and trading camp, came back
Speaker 1: still made the team, didn't play any special teams and
Speaker 1: that was only one instance. So you gotta know who
Speaker 1: your special teams coordinator is. And you also got to
Speaker 1: read the room. Look at the guys that you know
Speaker 1: that won't lead you astray, all right. You like, you
Speaker 1: gotta make sure you stay away for those type of
Speaker 1: guys that'll lead you into the deep water. Joseph I
Speaker 1: was one of those guys too that hey, I'll lead
Speaker 1: you after the team real quick. But you just you
Speaker 1: gotta make sure you follow the right guys and you
Speaker 1: get you know, best friends with just secal team Cornator.
Speaker 1: That'll be the eagiest way you make the team. We had,
Speaker 1: We had some guys in our defensive back room that
Speaker 1: you lead you astraight real quick. If you didn't know
Speaker 1: how to be responsible for yourself and your own actions,
Speaker 1: following them dudes would get you into some issues because
Speaker 1: they had already been there. They had the experience, they
Speaker 1: got a handalysts of like zero Sensi ball and Orlando
Speaker 1: Scandrid great leaders on the field, but they were events.
Speaker 1: So you can't hang with the big dogs. Don't do it.
Speaker 1: I ain't getting playbook. And you know, for the weekend comes,
Speaker 1: you don't just relax. I know it's a new city.
Speaker 1: You want to go check it out. All what's Dallas?
Speaker 1: You know all this hoopler. Just relax, man, you know,
Speaker 1: focus on what you gotta do, OTAs because you get
Speaker 1: the weekend off and OTAs mini camp. You gotta do
Speaker 1: some things. But ots you got the weekend off. Just
Speaker 1: you know, focus and stay stay where. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: got all this ju live broll your let's focus there
Speaker 1: in June and then you know in July you go ahead,
Speaker 1: had you some fun, yeah, but not too much fun? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Don't go to be there. So you guys both ended
Speaker 1: up signing with the Cowboys. It's undrafted free agent. Who
Speaker 1: else called you and you almost went to before deciding
Speaker 1: on Dallas? Thenny nobody like Dallas was my first call
Speaker 1: and my agent told me straight up, Hey, I think
Speaker 1: this is the best situation for you yeah, and I
Speaker 1: was done. I didn't. I didn't expect to get me
Speaker 1: any more calls anyways. But the fact that Dallas was
Speaker 1: the one who called, I live in Houston. I've always so.
Speaker 1: I lived in Houston. I played at LSU, so I've
Speaker 1: always been in that area. It was a no brainer
Speaker 1: for me. So if anybody else did call, what have
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have gotten for me. It came down to
Speaker 1: it was a Dallas Um Panthers and in Houston. And
Speaker 1: you know, as an undrafted free agent, you get like
Speaker 1: ten minutes to decide you know where you want to
Speaker 1: go as soon as the draft is over. So I'm
Speaker 1: first of all, I pissed off I didn't get drafted.
Speaker 1: I seen punters and kickers going. I'm like, man, this
Speaker 1: is some bull. And then my agent call like, hey man,
Speaker 1: these three teams is going. I was like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: let me sleep on it. Nah, you ain't got a
Speaker 1: tax about fifteen minutes, ten minute na and then luckily
Speaker 1: Um Maxie had called me. Brent Maxie, who was our
Speaker 1: second safety coach at the time, called me said, hey man,
Speaker 1: Dicon millis our special teams coach loves you. He thinks
Speaker 1: you can do some great things. I think you can
Speaker 1: do some great things on defense. You know, let's make
Speaker 1: this happen. And you know ended up, you know, making
Speaker 1: a decision end up being a good one for myself.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you gotta it's it's tough. You got about
Speaker 1: ten minutes. Yeah, you gotta have You gotta have an
Speaker 1: agent that's good enough or there's in tune enough to
Speaker 1: be able to look at that roster that quick and say,
Speaker 1: hey man, this is how many safeties they got, this
Speaker 1: how many guys they have on long term contracts, and
Speaker 1: this is how many guys they have where you could
Speaker 1: probably overtake them because they may be old a lot
Speaker 1: of money if they make the roster, and they may
Speaker 1: be trying to go younger. So you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to know that. And I think at that time, Dallas,
Speaker 1: it must have had some guys because if we had
Speaker 1: it Ball you think about Ellen Ball was moving from
Speaker 1: corner to safety at that time. But you had Mike Hamlin.
Speaker 1: Mike Hamlin who he was, He was a late round
Speaker 1: draft picked walking walking. Yeah, so we had we had,
Speaker 1: you know, we had some guys to where it was
Speaker 1: like we could make it a real competition to make
Speaker 1: the squad, so it worked out for us. Quassi was hurt.
Speaker 1: Hurt when we got drafted. Were the only ones in
Speaker 1: rookie mini camp, Like we were the only two safety
Speaker 1: so like we got all the reps, all the shine,
Speaker 1: like they made sure they like we got every damn
Speaker 1: It was hard as all hell, but I mean we
Speaker 1: got every rep and I think that really helped us
Speaker 1: out going into training camp. How much does it help
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys in the last decade have not been
Speaker 1: a team that spent high draft capital or big free
Speaker 1: agent dollars at the safety position. I think it hurt
Speaker 1: him a little bit. I think it did hurt him
Speaker 1: a little bit because I actually say, if you're a
Speaker 1: free agent, if you're undrafted, they're calling you right now,
Speaker 1: that you just look at the fact that hey, look
Speaker 1: they don't this is it's an opportunity. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: say it's an opportunity, especially here because both of the safeties,
Speaker 1: Um Hooker and Curse. You know, Curse had a heck
Speaker 1: of a season last year, but they didn't put you know,
Speaker 1: a great amount of you know money into There's no earl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no Yeah, It's not like he's you know, guaranteed
Speaker 1: to have that for good forever. So I think if
Speaker 1: you're an undrafted guy, you gotta look at the Cowboys
Speaker 1: as an opportunity for not only to make the team,
Speaker 1: but to maybe sprinkling some defensive snaps. Um you got
Speaker 1: that opportunity here in our dolls, I believe. I'll say this.
Speaker 1: I think they should have kept Church. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: to the people that the fans wanted, which started off
Speaker 1: with Earl Thomas and then moved on, moved on to
Speaker 1: my guy from LSU, Jamal Adams. You know, like fans,
Speaker 1: this could have been us. This could have been us
Speaker 1: overpaying for some guys who aren't going to be that
Speaker 1: type of difference maker on the field, and then we
Speaker 1: were in the hole, all right. So I think they've
Speaker 1: made some decent choices when it comes to like bringing
Speaker 1: in some guys who can play for one two years
Speaker 1: and then if they have to and they move on.
Speaker 1: But they should have they should have get very six
Speaker 1: mass with Jacksonville, because I meant it was just you
Speaker 1: knew it every year too, and every year was some
Speaker 1: guy coming on ave never weddo came and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: just gonna have man howd started like two years I
Speaker 1: just man, just walking in the hallways. I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: what that's how we're doing. And I knew it was
Speaker 1: me the coming from me because the next dude was
Speaker 1: what I think, Byron Jones. I'm like, I didn't get
Speaker 1: rid of buying. They just got him in the first round.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, these dudes, JJ, it all worked
Speaker 1: out every year. It was always somebody come come take
Speaker 1: my work. You almost did twenty minutes. It wasn't ten
Speaker 1: three three minutes, three minutes away. And I got Brady. Man,
Speaker 1: you know we got Brady that. Yeah, So you got
Speaker 1: a great memory. You've got it. You've got a great memory.
Speaker 1: All right. Question I asked right before the break, let's
Speaker 1: dive into it. Who's the number two target that you're
Speaker 1: thinking about four? Dak Prescott after Cedde Lamb, Michael Gallup,
Speaker 1: who they signed to a multi year contract in the offseason,
Speaker 1: not expected to be ready for the first two to
Speaker 1: three football games. So right now, as we get ready
Speaker 1: to go to these OTAs, who do you think is
Speaker 1: the number two target for number four? That's easy. Dalton Shoultz,
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz is going to be he may be the
Speaker 1: number one target, just depending on what we saw last
Speaker 1: year and how he's become that Jason Winton type guy
Speaker 1: that that safety valve for Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott is
Speaker 1: often looking for Dalton shots. So I know that Cede
Speaker 1: Lamb is going to get those down the field and
Speaker 1: try to make those big time plays. But Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: is going to get a lot of targets because one,
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be running shorter routes and then you
Speaker 1: know they're probably gonna be playing off of them a
Speaker 1: little bit and and trying to hold him from getting
Speaker 1: that first down. But last year he got I don't
Speaker 1: know how many kids, you got, eighty some catches and
Speaker 1: this is back to back. Yeah, so he's I see
Speaker 1: him getting the number two target of spot this year
Speaker 1: as well. I'm with you on that. Now. I think
Speaker 1: Schultz He's gonna end up being that number two target,
Speaker 1: which scares me a little bit because you know, you
Speaker 1: know Schultz, he's a he's a he's a good tight end,
Speaker 1: very solid tight end. But I don't think he's dynamic
Speaker 1: enough to be that pass catcher, that option that you
Speaker 1: need to have. I'm running out of options. I can
Speaker 1: see if you want them for five yards, you know,
Speaker 1: six yards here and there and a little seven yards
Speaker 1: you're on the goal line. Red zone threat. I can
Speaker 1: see that, But I just don't think he's dynamic enough
Speaker 1: to beat. If the defenders was like look zone, maybe
Speaker 1: he can sit down on his zone. He's a smart guy.
Speaker 1: He can be quarterback friendly, but man to man guys
Speaker 1: are focusing. I don't know if he got that dynamic
Speaker 1: wiggle to be able to do that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't say you don't even root for Schultz. They want.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they're gonna double CD and then they're
Speaker 1: gonna put something on on shot that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If he's dynamic enough, I don't know. I will say this.
Speaker 1: I did watch the Pittsburgh still is enough to say
Speaker 1: that I believe that if my man, James Washington can
Speaker 1: hold onto the ball, I think that he will be
Speaker 1: at least the number three getter for targets. But he
Speaker 1: has to be able to catch the ball. He got
Speaker 1: some talot bro, and he has some talent. He's curtched
Speaker 1: the fielding Pittsburgh got some talent bro because he can't
Speaker 1: catch the ball. But That's why I said, you know this,
Speaker 1: if I've seen guys who've had who had problems catching
Speaker 1: the ball at one location, that one true, and then
Speaker 1: they moved to a different spot and they realized that, hey,
Speaker 1: this is my shot, and if I missed this one up,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna have an issue. And they'd be sitting
Speaker 1: on the drugs for twenty four hours a day, seven
Speaker 1: days a week, and they come out here and they
Speaker 1: find a way to catch the ball. Also, coming from
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's arm may be different than coming from being Roethlisberger's. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to this is. I don't play receiver,
Speaker 1: but I think that if he's able to hold on
Speaker 1: to the ball, he has the ability to be a
Speaker 1: big time playmaker. He just has to. You know, he
Speaker 1: got got minimize as a reporter. That's the guy I'm
Speaker 1: focused on Day's washing because is he gonna see the field? Well, yes,
Speaker 1: I mean you got y CD gonna get the rookie,
Speaker 1: the young Tolbert. But first off, I mean, and you
Speaker 1: guys know this, how much does he understand the playbook?
Speaker 1: How many different places? Because I asked Kellen, you know,
Speaker 1: you know you have him concentrated on one spot. You
Speaker 1: have to play, so you know, so he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to learn. But if you're Washington, you think of this.
Speaker 1: This is your second this is your second opportunity. You know,
Speaker 1: do or do not? There is no more try. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you can't, if you can't make it here not,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many more stops in the desert
Speaker 1: you're gonna get. Des Bryant tweeted about how he really
Speaker 1: thinks Dallas got themselves a real good receiver. Let's see
Speaker 1: what he can do here. The issue for him in
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is kind of like the Cowboys know how to
Speaker 1: draft offensive line in the first round and how to
Speaker 1: find them. The Steelers know how to find and hey man,
Speaker 1: you're slipping here. Next thing, you know what, what's a
Speaker 1: boy's name that m Claypool. Yes, Claypool passed him right
Speaker 1: there and he got the trust of Ben. But right now,
Speaker 1: to me, the opportunity for James Washington to step in
Speaker 1: here and be a viable number two target is here.
Speaker 1: You you you know, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1: But this is your opportunity. Went to Oklahoma State. Let's
Speaker 1: see what you're gonna do. I'm really looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing what he can do that don't match. Just makes
Speaker 1: me nervous, man, because if you look at it, we
Speaker 1: look right, it's the office we're gonna try out there. CD.
Speaker 1: James Washington maybe told her if he can pick up
Speaker 1: the system and adult shots. I mean those they're a
Speaker 1: good player. But I'm like, is that is that a
Speaker 1: dynamic enough offense to go out there and win you
Speaker 1: some games? I know we got a good defense, you know,
Speaker 1: but kill them are in the offense. Man, it's a
Speaker 1: scheme offense. You looking for guys to just be winning
Speaker 1: one on one matchups all the time, right, You're looking
Speaker 1: for guys who can run the rocks and get open
Speaker 1: and that press. I got to hit the right guy.
Speaker 1: Do we have a guy out there like DeVante Adams
Speaker 1: to where it's it's third and six, third and seven
Speaker 1: and you know that that guy is getting the ball.
Speaker 1: Do we have that guy out there? Can CD be
Speaker 1: that guy? Maybe? But it's Kelly Moore going to allow
Speaker 1: him the opportunity to be that guy. What we saw
Speaker 1: last year was he did not allow Mark Cooper to
Speaker 1: be that guy. So let's unless that changes who we
Speaker 1: tried out there. Really, as long as they can catch
Speaker 1: the ball and run the right route, I think that
Speaker 1: is the most important part. But if you're looking for
Speaker 1: guys who can beat guys one on one and Keller
Speaker 1: Moore is gonna allow you to do that, then then
Speaker 1: it's a different story. Is this receiving core? Is it
Speaker 1: is it? Would you say it's an upgrade over last
Speaker 1: year or would you say it's it's a downgrade? What
Speaker 1: would you say that right now? I'm just say it's even,
Speaker 1: it's even. But what we got out of a Mark
Speaker 1: Cooper last year and for what and what you know,
Speaker 1: the plays they didn't know did call from whoever? Whoever's fault?
Speaker 1: It was whatever we got from a Mark Cooper last year,
Speaker 1: I think we can get that from other guys on
Speaker 1: the roster. And and and Noah Brown, you know, he's
Speaker 1: you want opportunity, it's here, so let's see what they
Speaker 1: do with it. And that's that for me, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be looking at. Is they going to OTAs
Speaker 1: and going to training camp. There are opportunities here. Who's
Speaker 1: going to step forward and take advantage of those opportunities?
Speaker 1: You know what? I also have a feeling that Unfortunately
Speaker 1: for my man Zeke that Tony Poler is gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot of third down opportunities this season. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be getting a lot of out of the
Speaker 1: backfield opportunities, like Alvin Kamar some of those guys who
Speaker 1: who get a lot of shots on third down. So
Speaker 1: here's a question, what about putting them both out there
Speaker 1: on the field the same time? If you have issues
Speaker 1: in terms of, hey, we don't know about another receiver.
Speaker 1: We know Tony can catch the football. Why not put
Speaker 1: both guys out there? Mean Kellen Moore's is I ain't
Speaker 1: okay the guru put something that you put a twenty
Speaker 1: person up, but then you could take Sholtalk. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not lying when I'm not lying in Tony poled
Speaker 1: up at receiver. And then if I do put them
Speaker 1: in the backfield, then where am I gonna put Zeke
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna line up in twenty personality entire again?
Speaker 1: Like that? That that limits you and what you're able
Speaker 1: to do. Like you said, Shultz has to be out
Speaker 1: or if Shoultz is out at the slot and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now you gotta missmake to the slot.
Speaker 1: Because you got a corner on should so I don't
Speaker 1: see them both being on the field at the same time.
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna have to lose a little bit, and I
Speaker 1: could see them trusting Tony Pollard to give them more
Speaker 1: opportunities in that big playability on third day. This will
Speaker 1: be the perfect setup to just dominate in the runk game. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: free agent safety's Berry chairch to Danny mccraig give you
Speaker 1: their take on things. I'm news just merely here to facilitate.
Speaker 1: I was reading Peter King's Monday Morning Football Comedy does
Speaker 1: over There or Football Morning in America. He's changed it too,
Speaker 1: but he came out with his power rankings that's Cowboys
Speaker 1: fifteen fifteen, and I look at it and I get it.
Speaker 1: In this media world where they want constant content, because
Speaker 1: if it's one thing we know about the NFL is
Speaker 1: you're basing it all off last year. It's like stock returns,
Speaker 1: you're based it off all last year. Because nobody had
Speaker 1: the Bengals in the playoffs, much less winning their division,
Speaker 1: or maybe one or two blocked people away from winning
Speaker 1: the whole thing. I mean it's a big one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: really really uh And and I had I did an
Speaker 1: interview over Mad Dog Sports Radio and say, hey, what
Speaker 1: are the Cowboys winning East this year? They should win
Speaker 1: the East? I said, don't say that. I said, that's
Speaker 1: I said all. I said, that's a little arrogant to
Speaker 1: just think that they're gonna win it because the division
Speaker 1: has been bad so many years in a row. I said,
Speaker 1: they played a first play schedule. And when we talk
Speaker 1: about it, Danny, we look at this thing and I
Speaker 1: I keep telling people, and I think people would just
Speaker 1: think I'm I'm stupid or something. But these are some
Speaker 1: real good quarterbacks on this list, and this is a
Speaker 1: quarterback league. We start, I mean, we won. You got
Speaker 1: two dudes who played a Super Bowl, you know, Tom
Speaker 1: Brady who's won six of them, then seven. Then you
Speaker 1: got you got Joe Joe Burrow who had the football,
Speaker 1: what opportunity to win the dog on thing and his
Speaker 1: offensive line got him killed. Um that's no joke, man.
Speaker 1: But you got Matt Stafford out here. Um, you've got
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. You got to go to Minnesota. And if
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins decides how to throw the ball away, you
Speaker 1: know he may. We've seen him put up nervous. He's
Speaker 1: beating the Cowboys before Matt Ryan and Houston are gonna come.
Speaker 1: I mean, Matt Ryan Indianapolis are coming to town. Here. Um,
Speaker 1: who knows maybe Ryan Tannehill by December twenty eight, who
Speaker 1: knows him at the backup? Who knows nobody? But but
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, just just keep going
Speaker 1: back into This is not easy. And for some reason,
Speaker 1: people tend to think that you can base your team
Speaker 1: off last year's returns and this is going to be
Speaker 1: This is not easy. Hello, if you based it off
Speaker 1: last year's return you should not be assuming it's gonna
Speaker 1: be easy anyway, all right, because the thumps that we
Speaker 1: got from the physical teams, if that's something that we
Speaker 1: take into this year, the record you gave me, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be being graceful, all right, because it's gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot worse than that. I can just keep going
Speaker 1: back into my mind. First, you have to go through
Speaker 1: San Francisco because we're going back. San Francisco got out
Speaker 1: there and they outphysical us, all right. They ran the
Speaker 1: ball down our throat, they stopped the some offense. And
Speaker 1: then you can go all the way back to what
Speaker 1: happened after we played Denver. Denver put a blueprint out
Speaker 1: there for teams to say, this is what we're going
Speaker 1: to do, and we saw that for the rest of
Speaker 1: the season. The rest of the season, we saw that,
Speaker 1: and we finished off with you know, the Eagle team
Speaker 1: who didn't play many of these players and stuff, and
Speaker 1: everybody took that seriously, put up fifty up. They weren't
Speaker 1: playing the record. Yeah, of course he put five out
Speaker 1: this preseason. Yeah, undefeated in the division last year, scoring
Speaker 1: forty for averaging forty a game that gond happened this year, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no happened one. Like I said, the final game of
Speaker 1: the Philly they didn't play any of they started right,
Speaker 1: what wasn't even competitive, all right? The Giants were who
Speaker 1: they were, Washington didn't have their foot, their quarterback who
Speaker 1: they depended on. This is going to be a totally
Speaker 1: different year, totally different totally different teams, totally different years.
Speaker 1: So absolutely not. We need we need to become a
Speaker 1: different team anyway, what a doubt this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a different division. I mean, you know, Carson Wentz isn't
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback, but I believe he's better than Taylor Haneke.
Speaker 1: Uh you know New York they brought that they ball live.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say he's hold onto the ball, holding on
Speaker 1: in the first snap it threw. And keep in mind
Speaker 1: that was that was their backup quarterback. They attached all
Speaker 1: there there. Oh yeah, it's it's magic. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of people trying to trade on digs though, you know,
Speaker 1: they were trying to gotta had that mean. But like,
Speaker 1: I think I think they looking the chops Carson Wentz around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's still gonna be bad. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be better, try to make the problem
Speaker 1: still get better because they still got they still got
Speaker 1: scared tear, they still got a running game. I think
Speaker 1: they're defense will play better because they're gonna I think
Speaker 1: they believe now that they got something right. And and
Speaker 1: it sucks on defense when you like when you go
Speaker 1: out there, you're like, man, an offense ain't gonna do nothing,
Speaker 1: but we'll be back out there. It is a horrible
Speaker 1: thing for you to go out there on defense and
Speaker 1: feel that way. So I think the Washington the Commanders
Speaker 1: are going to be a totally different team than they
Speaker 1: were last Are they gonna be good? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but they'll be They'll be very better. Let's see who
Speaker 1: the owner is over the weekend. Jared Bell at that
Speaker 1: story in USA Today, saying that they they are tired
Speaker 1: of Daniel Snyder and they're they're taking their taking votes
Speaker 1: right now to see whether or not he gets shown
Speaker 1: the door. It's gonna be Diddy and jay Z. You know,
Speaker 1: they go Flo Floyd money team. They're gonna put their
Speaker 1: money together. Man, They're gonna buy one one one vote
Speaker 1: to Daniel Snyder will having his favors gonna be Jerry.
Speaker 1: Jerry's loved him through the years, and UH had a
Speaker 1: buddy of mine say, hey, you think it's really gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I said, I hope not. I said, Jerry's not for it.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing. Jerry's not for it. I said. Secondly,
Speaker 1: you know, and he's he's watching man. I said, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I hope say. I felt that terribly. Keep running that
Speaker 1: thing the dirt you did, now become the Vanderbilt to
Speaker 1: the NFC. That whole stands thing that they had, I mean,
Speaker 1: the bench thing that they had, Like, this is what
Speaker 1: your team is. You were broke on the stadium or
Speaker 1: something poop coming down on fans. This is what this is.
Speaker 1: This is what your organism. This is representing what your
Speaker 1: organization is. That is just it's not good. It's about too.
Speaker 1: I was right before the pandem but the last time
Speaker 1: I went up there, it rained, and it was raining
Speaker 1: in the press box with Kraine was coming through statement.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, that's the trip I get. I
Speaker 1: like when they're playing this. January said, I will not
Speaker 1: be going. You ain't messing with it. I only want
Speaker 1: to go to Lay. I'm not going. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to La. I'm not going to La. The you already
Speaker 1: been to Colley so it falls on a school week.
Speaker 1: I won't go to Green May November thirteen. We know
Speaker 1: you don't want to go to that. Yeah, the Minnesota
Speaker 1: Minnesota Green Bay November thirteen and twenty. Yeah, those two
Speaker 1: Green Yeah, I want to hit that. Jacksonville though little
Speaker 1: warm down Therember so it look look man, but that's
Speaker 1: southing Georgia. So it could be real cold right then,
Speaker 1: so I just don't anticipate myself doing many trips this year.
Speaker 1: I hate going to Philly, so I might the Giants
Speaker 1: Monday Night. Maybe maybe I could. I don't enjoy going
Speaker 1: to New Jersey that I want no parts of Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: but they may I may. I may have to go
Speaker 1: to Philly. So yeah, I might be about one of
Speaker 1: two trips this sy There's not many on here. I
Speaker 1: see Philly, so we expect to see you pretty much
Speaker 1: the whole season right here on the play Monday's Baby,
Speaker 1: I'm right back here on don't let the team same
Speaker 1: for myself across that rope and to get so Peter
Speaker 1: King as the Cowboys. It's fifteen right now. Is power rankings,
Speaker 1: which is basically uh and then the middle of the pack,
Speaker 1: and you know that's fine. People are looking to the
Speaker 1: NFC East teams are just saying they don't think they're
Speaker 1: much there, though there are some who are saying, hey,
Speaker 1: the Eagles are going to be better, and then they're
Speaker 1: picking the Eagles, and see what they're saying. I keep saying,
Speaker 1: show me what the second year coach does, you know,
Speaker 1: can he be better? I think too many times people
Speaker 1: don't talk enough about coaching. You could put all this
Speaker 1: talent here, but does the coach have the ability to
Speaker 1: get what he needs to out of the town. I
Speaker 1: thought they improved during the year, But that's one of
Speaker 1: those collaborative type organizations. I hate those things. Collaborative type.
Speaker 1: He made them tirs. We was clown. They done, they done,
Speaker 1: They did get better, but that whole whole when the
Speaker 1: owner wants to be involved, then the GM wants to
Speaker 1: be involved, and the analytical department, everybody wants to get together.
Speaker 1: I just think collaborations don't work. No, with that collaborating
Speaker 1: in in La Sean McVay and him and less when
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. When they went out,
Speaker 1: they ain't did it and they got it done. Um
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay was Bruce figured out this is what
Speaker 1: Tom want to do and okay, okay, Tom, fine, it
Speaker 1: got done. You know, force Bruce about it. Belicheck Belichick
Speaker 1: not collaborate. I mean, just just whold collaboration. Everybody get
Speaker 1: a little take No, everybody. Everybody doesn't need to have
Speaker 1: a say in things. In my opinion, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I would agree with you on that one head coach,
Speaker 1: you make the decisions. Because I think we got some
Speaker 1: collaboration going on in here. But I still think Mike
Speaker 1: mccarthur should be calling a place, but especially this year.
Speaker 1: And if you want to hot seat this year, and now,
Speaker 1: if I was on the hot I'm going down throwing
Speaker 1: my own punches. I'm not going down because this man
Speaker 1: can't decide to run the football or not. Look if
Speaker 1: it's me, man, we're calling this, We're calling that. I'm
Speaker 1: forcing them upstairs and say you know you can't do
Speaker 1: this or you can't do that. I mean you gotta
Speaker 1: go down swear. You just can't lose your job off
Speaker 1: for somebody else. That's what Bill Parcels ended up doing
Speaker 1: after his first year with the Giant. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: they give me another shot, We'll come back. Do it
Speaker 1: in my ways. Like if I'm gonna get fired, I
Speaker 1: will be fired doing it my way. And he would
Speaker 1: essentially say that to other young coaches and again, hey man,
Speaker 1: you know, if they're gonna get you, don't don't don't
Speaker 1: get got doing it their way. Do it your way,
Speaker 1: and then you can live with yourself other than the
Speaker 1: whole collaboration and everybody's sitting there and telling you what
Speaker 1: to do. Do you think he's allowed to call plays? Like?
Speaker 1: Once again, if you're gonna get fired at this point
Speaker 1: in time, you might as well be fired doing it
Speaker 1: all your way. And there are ways that you can
Speaker 1: make suggestions. You'd run a ball, you run a ball here.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's ways he can get not called the plays.
Speaker 1: But but you know, be heavily involved in it. I've
Speaker 1: seen other coaches do that in their own way. So
Speaker 1: or you know what, during the year, how many times
Speaker 1: have we seen Champagne. Champagne had his play calling duties
Speaker 1: listed from him when he was at the Giants and
Speaker 1: Jim Fossil took over. So and if people forget when
Speaker 1: Sean got here, his name was kind of damaged in
Speaker 1: the league and Bill Parcel's helped rebuild it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just can't say that enough here right If I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get fired, you know that big old place sheet will
Speaker 1: sit more going up and down right here. If you're
Speaker 1: going if you're going to be a running team, all right,
Speaker 1: When you're going to be a running team, it starts now, though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When you're in OTAs, when
Speaker 1: you're going through a mini camp and that you move
Speaker 1: into training camp. That's when you need to start working
Speaker 1: on your run game, all right. Because as much as
Speaker 1: we want to say you could just snatch the playbook
Speaker 1: and be like, we're gonna call a run, it don't
Speaker 1: work like that for your team. So they need to
Speaker 1: they need to be working on their schemes. If guys
Speaker 1: are gonna be pulling, they need to be pulling while
Speaker 1: they're in training camp and mini camp because that ain't
Speaker 1: something you could just all of a sudden be like,
Speaker 1: all right, this is what we're gonna start calling, because
Speaker 1: it ain't that easy. The dudes on the other side
Speaker 1: get paid well to be able to know how to
Speaker 1: take on pulling guards and how to how to backside
Speaker 1: them and you know what I'm saying and disrupt those
Speaker 1: type of plays. So if you're not working on it
Speaker 1: now up through the season, you can't just turn into
Speaker 1: a running team, which is what we saw last year.
Speaker 1: We weren't a running team against Tampa, and we tried
Speaker 1: to become well, we never tried to become one, but
Speaker 1: they started saying, well, we didin't getting no yards because
Speaker 1: you ain't work on it. Yeah, do you think it.
Speaker 1: Do you think it has anything to do with you know, look, man,
Speaker 1: we paid Dag all this money. We want him to
Speaker 1: be the reason that this team is successful. This team,
Speaker 1: this team can offensively do damage. I had a former
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator tell me one of his problems, and actually
Speaker 1: one of his problems, but he also said one of
Speaker 1: the great things about, uh, you know, going against thirt teams, said, man,
Speaker 1: when I when I had these head coaches who were
Speaker 1: offensive guys, and these four and these quarterbacks who were
Speaker 1: now calling the place, he said, he just knew what
Speaker 1: they were going to do and what what when in trouble?
Speaker 1: Where were they leaning to the past? Yeah? Throw the
Speaker 1: ball um. That was one of my frustrations. It's just okay,
Speaker 1: you're down, you know, you're down ten points, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the city and it's like what then
Speaker 1: that's when on the defensive just looking the other there, like, man,
Speaker 1: we're back on the field again. You make a big play,
Speaker 1: you get a turnover, then all of a sudden, offense
Speaker 1: goes out there and go three three and out, are
Speaker 1: four and out. There's some situations where they go for
Speaker 1: the fourth you can't get it, and the defense is
Speaker 1: back out there again. That is deflating. Man. You see
Speaker 1: hands down, guys can't even finish their water. That's the
Speaker 1: play because a lot of times you're giving them, dude
Speaker 1: the ball back at the fifty. Hey, what they're saying
Speaker 1: punt red? Like, ain't like that? We've gotta side like
Speaker 1: what I want? Like we no, ain't no way? They
Speaker 1: better pick up this third down. I'm like, can we
Speaker 1: go calling the fake? Ain't no way we punt? Come on,
Speaker 1: especially if you all in the punt teams at the
Speaker 1: wing position, which I played at the wing. You got big,
Speaker 1: But that's that was Jason Taylor was coming off the edge.
Speaker 1: I had somebody else coming off the edge. I'm like,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be a punt stay so you know
Speaker 1: what I'm defend. Man. I had Jared Ellen. I said, man,
Speaker 1: how you were supposed to block? I ain't blocked? The
Speaker 1: man sins literally, how am I supposed I'm not the
Speaker 1: fast bro? You come hard, I'm gonna cut you. I'm
Speaker 1: never cool after you want to keep saying defense, but
Speaker 1: come on, I'm gonna I'm gonna ta your knees out.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, I wasn't gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I just I just wanted them to not not before
Speaker 1: get out here, want to get your thoughts. James brad
Speaker 1: Berry ends up signing with the Philadelphia Eagles as a corner.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good move. I think brad Berry.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he he takes the football the
Speaker 1: way well as a corner. I think he had four
Speaker 1: picks last year. He gave up a lot of yards
Speaker 1: last year. But that whole situation in New York last
Speaker 1: year was it was just under turmoil. So you know,
Speaker 1: I think he's an extremely solid corner. And you put him,
Speaker 1: you pair him with Darius Slay out there. You got
Speaker 1: a nice one two combo out there. You got a
Speaker 1: real nice one too, combo with a d line that
Speaker 1: can get after the quarterback and make him throw the
Speaker 1: ball quick. You were you working with some grease out there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good signing. The Eagles are
Speaker 1: making some they making some moves. They continue to say,
Speaker 1: hey man, we're going to make these robster moves to
Speaker 1: make us a better a better squad. And they went
Speaker 1: into the went into the last year they knowing where
Speaker 1: their deficiencies were, and they're like, listen, we can get
Speaker 1: better by getting Bradbury, and I think they did get better.
Speaker 1: Like what you want to do is be able to cover.
Speaker 1: So they're looking around a division, they're looking around the NFC,
Speaker 1: and they're saying, what we need to do to be
Speaker 1: able to win is cover some guys because there are
Speaker 1: some good quarterbacks that we're going to have to face.
Speaker 1: And I think I think they got better with that movie.
Speaker 1: Solid Corner. You know what, one more thing? Okay, shout
Speaker 1: out to you know, prins up to what's what's my man?
Speaker 1: That just ruptured his achilles and workout video and North
Speaker 1: Carolina Anti man, I heard, like I watched it. You
Speaker 1: can't hear hear that pop? Man. I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1: I purposely said I did not want to watch. And
Speaker 1: then it sounds because he was a free agent, so
Speaker 1: it wasn't like he was working out at the facility
Speaker 1: and so he has to go get his own you know,
Speaker 1: treatment and stuff. But man, you could and with the
Speaker 1: achilles this fluke, it's I hat it's fluke. Like I
Speaker 1: was just backpedaling with the plant, go forward, nothing crazy,
Speaker 1: and it just pops. Man. It was sad because you
Speaker 1: can hear him too, He's like, no, not like this,
Speaker 1: and it's one live at the moment, so at this
Speaker 1: point you can't even hide it. Like everybody had already
Speaker 1: seen it. You know. It's just like, man, that's rough
Speaker 1: and that's part of the game, man. But that sucks
Speaker 1: because he just came off of the year before he
Speaker 1: tores ACL, so he was getting back, getting ready to
Speaker 1: you know, trying to sign with a team, and then
Speaker 1: boom and he just like you said, you could just
Speaker 1: see it in his face and he was just like, nah, man, Nah,
Speaker 1: it's just tough, man, it's tough. Clay Thompson kind of
Speaker 1: went through those State Warriors and this is his first
Speaker 1: year back, and even during these playoffs you can see
Speaker 1: where he has moments where he's old Clay, but it's
Speaker 1: still just trying to get back, and then certain people
Speaker 1: are trying to you know, he's not what he used
Speaker 1: to be. And I just kind of say to myself, Um, clearly,
Speaker 1: you guys don't understand athletics at this level. To go
Speaker 1: through an ACL and Achilles back to back, just to
Speaker 1: be out here doing what he's doing is it's pretty phenomenal.
Speaker 1: It's about you're you're You're in the Western Conference finals.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is you're in the final four. Um,
Speaker 1: you gotta be pretty good to get this far here,
Speaker 1: and and he's done. He's done a nice job, but
Speaker 1: he's still not back to where he needs to be.
Speaker 1: And he had he had two big dumps and then
Speaker 1: the one that I that I can remember, and I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, Clay getting right. He put the clamps
Speaker 1: on Luca at the end of the game, flipping the
Speaker 1: hips and not. I was like, okay, all right, this
Speaker 1: is this is that all defensive team that Clay was
Speaker 1: making when he when he rolls up on that, I
Speaker 1: see it right there where I was, oh, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: and actually said those spurts of moments where you could
Speaker 1: just see where he was getting back to himself and boy,
Speaker 1: it ain't terrorize him in the Clay and the good
Speaker 1: thing about Clay his game is you know, more about shooting.
Speaker 1: It's not he doesn't. He's not a high flyer. He doesn't.
Speaker 1: But Terco and his game was all about speed, all
Speaker 1: about speed. And when you got an acl and Achilles,
Speaker 1: that takes a step from you man, saw like you said,
Speaker 1: prayers up. Hopefully he can get a full recovery with
Speaker 1: with him being a yeah, not on the squad or
Speaker 1: not like that's that's just rough man. It sucks for
Speaker 1: that to happen to him. Football's tough sport. I tell
Speaker 1: all my friends who who talk about, Oh, these guys
Speaker 1: get paid a lot of moneys. I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who leaves this who leaves the
Speaker 1: game without some type of lifelong injured something. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're taking this this game. You left something. If
Speaker 1: you got the pension, you gave something to the game.
Speaker 1: What's your body part like? And can't know next to
Speaker 1: the bus how to put what body parts? You left
Speaker 1: the game? Because when you go there and you see those,
Speaker 1: you see those, you see those old timers man, and
Speaker 1: you just see, man, it's tough cats. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: had my hip the other day and knees and stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's uh, you leave something, man. I
Speaker 1: got a call from me and Joe Green on Monday,
Speaker 1: who the legend himself. Let me tell you something, man,
Speaker 1: that's you talk about some joys you have in life
Speaker 1: and you just look up there and I called mister Green,
Speaker 1: hello from the Green Legend. Yes, yes, the greatest steel
Speaker 1: of all time. Um, he called me. He was that
Speaker 1: it was an event and he was trying to get
Speaker 1: some help with and I said, sure, you know, we'll
Speaker 1: figure out what we can do. But you know, man,
Speaker 1: it's this year i've seen him. You know, does he
Speaker 1: really mean? I never met him? You know the game?
Speaker 1: The mean Joe Green is he was he really like
Speaker 1: on the field, man, he was. He was that dude
Speaker 1: that he was due. He was on the field. He played,
Speaker 1: he flipped switch, he hated to lose. Man brought that
Speaker 1: Texas nastiness with him. Um. But but yeah, yeah, he was.
Speaker 1: He was that kind of guy. But you can see, man,
Speaker 1: you see Joe and these other guys and you just
Speaker 1: see it. Man, they walked slow and um he's at
Speaker 1: Earl Campbelletti's events and you know, Earl's in a wheelchair
Speaker 1: and damn, and these guys have given it. The one
Speaker 1: thing that will kind of surprise you if you've never
Speaker 1: met him is that he's not that big when you
Speaker 1: think about today's at Yeah, he's not that big, which
Speaker 1: just tells you about the quickness and how good he was.
Speaker 1: But football, they didn't you know, they didn't have three
Speaker 1: hundred pounds respect you know, the game. The game has
Speaker 1: changed five back then, right, so so the game has changed.
Speaker 1: But just he lives up in Flower Mound, and you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's he is very into the Cowboys. You know,
Speaker 1: he follows the Cowboys very much. So he's he loves
Speaker 1: but he loves all sports. That's the thing. He's just
Speaker 1: a true sports. But he's asking about Reggie Bullock. He's like,
Speaker 1: why does he wear his hair like that? And I
Speaker 1: ended up doing a story on it on that Friday.
Speaker 1: He asked me that on Monday and Friday I turned
Speaker 1: a story on it about that that flip being swished.
Speaker 1: Anybody that you played with that man, it was the
Speaker 1: nicest dude, But as soon as you got on that
Speaker 1: football field, it was like, man, who is this what
Speaker 1: a name? Y'all might know, it might not, but if
Speaker 1: you remember Eric Frampton, Yeah, yeah, team don't curse, don't drink,
Speaker 1: don't do none of none of that nicest dudes you
Speaker 1: could meet when you walking through the hallways nic all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did he get on the field and even special teams
Speaker 1: guy totally different, special team total, totally different on the
Speaker 1: field and it was like this, ain't you ain't the
Speaker 1: same guy? You know it was out. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: talking trash all night. He don't curse though, but he's
Speaker 1: you know, he's doing that Philip, Yeah, the Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: trash talking. But yeah, I mean that that's the first
Speaker 1: guy that comes to mind because he was the first
Speaker 1: guy and I was like, is that you're talking the
Speaker 1: young team? Arrol Spence is like that. Oscar dela Oyer
Speaker 1: like that too, just real nice guy, you know, the
Speaker 1: softest hand one of the softest handshakes ever had was
Speaker 1: Oscar de Lloyd. But put them in the ring. They're
Speaker 1: getting you many, but they're they're giving you that work.
Speaker 1: They are giving you that work. But the outside just
Speaker 1: nicest guys, just kind of calm guy that you just
Speaker 1: wouldn't think that these are you know, trained, trained folks
Speaker 1: who really put them hands on you man. But speaking y'all,
Speaker 1: see y'all see maybe the hit buddy with that with
Speaker 1: that left hook to the body and dropped him this
Speaker 1: weekend swing on. Yeah, man, it was just one of
Speaker 1: his old sparring partners. He did a little exhibition with it.
Speaker 1: Would have left to the body dropped them. Since we're
Speaker 1: talking about Oscar, I didn't watch it, but you just
Speaker 1: talk about just you know, there's another just just you know,
Speaker 1: there's certain guys, there's great, and then there's just next
Speaker 1: level man. Floyd is one of those. He's one in
Speaker 1: the in his sports. His next level I mean just
Speaker 1: what he could do in the ring. Man just just sensational.
Speaker 1: There was you guys were young, but there's Dude Lenk,
Speaker 1: Sweet Pete Whittaker and Sweet Pea was really good. But
Speaker 1: then I think about Floyd, like Man and Sweeper world champion,
Speaker 1: but Floyd was that next level guy. Man truly one
Speaker 1: of the greatest of all time. Man, but help watch it.
Speaker 1: I'll never understand why casts man, I gave it to Floyd.
Speaker 1: I'm two thirty. I'm two forty, little guy, and hey,
Speaker 1: you bunched like I was gonna see a Florida exerbission
Speaker 1: just because you want to be able to say, man,
Speaker 1: I at least got to see one of the greatest
Speaker 1: of all times like I would. I would loved to
Speaker 1: see how leave box. I would love to go to
Speaker 1: a Jordan game like that. Like those are the type
Speaker 1: of things that you you don't want to miss. I
Speaker 1: can say, you know, I played against Tom Brady, I've
Speaker 1: seen him play so I'm still in that category. But
Speaker 1: there there are certain people who you don't want to
Speaker 1: miss in action doing what they what they knew how
Speaker 1: to do best. I'll say this. You know he fights
Speaker 1: over here all the time. Errol Spitz Junior. Get out
Speaker 1: there and watch that young man while you can, because
Speaker 1: he is a he's a heck of town. Heck of town.
Speaker 1: All right, we're out of time here for Chris being big,
Speaker 1: will Jazz, everybody who helps this thing go. Danny McCray,
Speaker 1: Barry Church knew he scrubbs players lounge. We're back with
Speaker 1: you on Tuesday to take Memorial Day off. Here you go,
Speaker 1: I'll be back lack back on Monday. So yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: be back y'all. Y'all here the first one, the first
Speaker 1: one man February, yea, the first. I should be here.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think there's a game seven on
Speaker 1: Monday night. I don't think there'll be a Warriors Man's game,
Speaker 1: but na, so I should be here Tuesday. All right,
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