Speaker 1: The force is strong in this one, and that's why
Speaker 1: we're warning you that this episode contains spoilers, folks. Big
Speaker 1: spoilers for the first three episodes of Obi Wan Kenobi,
Speaker 1: some discussion about the Darth Vader, the twenty seventeen Darth
Speaker 1: Vader comic, some other Star Wars comics, and some legends lore.
Speaker 1: Also plus theories for the rest of the show. Minor
Speaker 1: spoilers for Star Wars Rebels and the Mandalorian. So be warned.
Speaker 1: This is a big, big, big Star Wars conversation coming
Speaker 1: up next. Hello, my name is Jason Eoncepti, and welcome
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Speaker 2: Wos, we're talking star Walls and all the stuff, all
Speaker 2: the news which we're gonna run by to be fair,
Speaker 2: from Star Wars Snips, Celebration, including snippets from the Mandalorian,
Speaker 2: reveals about and Or Jedi survivor of the sequel to
Speaker 2: Jedi Fallen Order, the Ahsoka trailer, all that.
Speaker 1: Stuff we're gonna talk about. We're gonna speed by it
Speaker 1: because we're gonna dive deep into Obi wan Kenobi parts one,
Speaker 1: two and three, mostly two and three, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: dive deep into it. We're gonna talk about all the
Speaker 1: stuff because there's, folks, there's so much to talk about.
Speaker 1: In our nerd Out section, a listener pitches is on
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Speaker 1: Star Wars is the number one comics Encyclopedia, the person
Speaker 1: who knows about legends, unlike myself, she's the great, She's
Speaker 1: the powerful. Rosie Night, Rosie, how are you hello?
Speaker 2: It's me.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling so much fat I'm so happy to be here. Yes,
Speaker 3: like anytime if it's not comics, it's like anytime that
Speaker 3: there's something that other people probably don't care about, Rosie
Speaker 3: knows it. It's like legends. Guess what she knows everything
Speaker 3: about an Ewoch or Savajah press like and this thing
Speaker 3: I have to say is gonna be a legends heavy episode.
Speaker 1: So let's get into it, folks. It's Star Wars celebration
Speaker 1: is hell over Memorial Day weekend over in Anaheim, and
Speaker 1: let's dive into some of the announcements. We'll probably dive
Speaker 1: into these at a more detail oriented way at a
Speaker 1: later date, but let's kind of run through the highlights now,
Speaker 1: starting with Oh gosh, let's start with the Star Wars
Speaker 1: Jedi Survivor trailer. This is, of course, the sequel to
Speaker 1: twenty nineteenth Jedi Fallen Order, a game that is harder
Speaker 1: than you expected to be when you start playing it.
Speaker 1: The game that introduced us to cal kestis the only
Speaker 1: partially trained Jedi Aclighte on the run from the Inquisitors.
Speaker 1: They do a bang up job of trying to get him.
Speaker 1: More on that later, and of course introduce this is
Speaker 1: also to his wonderful droid buddy bed one bd one,
Speaker 1: who I absolutely I lim a two legged robot.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And this trailer looks great. I can't wait to play it.
Speaker 1: I love Jedi Fallen Order. It gave us a lot
Speaker 1: of background on on the Inquisitors, something that is very
Speaker 1: relevant right now. And I'm excited for this. Your thoughts, Rosy, Yeah?
Speaker 3: Same? I also think this is this is like one
Speaker 3: of the things that was a stealth and highly anticipated
Speaker 3: thing going into this, Like this was the one where
Speaker 3: even like Chris had said it, like multiple people were like,
Speaker 3: I know everything's gonna happening with TV and film, but
Speaker 3: I want to know if we're getting a sequel, Like
Speaker 3: what's the info. We haven't had to buy it for
Speaker 3: a long time. Here's the tray list. So yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I'm stoked. I love Beauty One, I love Droid.
Speaker 1: We got a bad batch a season two trailer. It
Speaker 1: is returning the fall our good friends of a new
Speaker 1: look with some new armor and folks. This series will
Speaker 1: feature appearances from Emperor Palpatine or good friend Palpi, who
Speaker 1: is of course terrorizing the galaxy at this particular time
Speaker 1: in galactic history, shocking our good friend Commander Cody. And
Speaker 1: the big news, the big big news surviving Order sixty six.
Speaker 2: Folks.
Speaker 1: You know him from the Clone Wars. It's young Wookie
Speaker 1: Jedi in training Sensation, the youngling gunje.
Speaker 4: He has made it.
Speaker 1: He survived.
Speaker 3: Wow, this is exactly.
Speaker 2: What I care about.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. This is like the biggest news from Star Wars celebration.
Speaker 3: To me, I'm like a number one Lumpy stand I Uh,
Speaker 3: if you've never just google Lumpy and you'll see why
Speaker 3: I love him. So Gunji is like the that's like
Speaker 3: the spiritual successor to the Lumpy throne. So I am
Speaker 3: incredibly excited about this. I also feel like his inclusion
Speaker 3: specifically and kind of where it is a hint of
Speaker 3: where the Star Wars shows are going over one included
Speaker 3: which is this very deep seeded interest in the young
Speaker 3: lings and in Padawa, and that is like so that
Speaker 3: and that was other things that they hinted with that,
Speaker 3: you know, like I think there was like a kid's
Speaker 3: show that they're doing called Young Jedi Adventures, which kind
Speaker 3: of sounds almost like Young Jedi Academy, which is a
Speaker 3: big legends. But I think that they're really interested in
Speaker 3: this very underspoken about in canon part of the Star
Speaker 3: Wars law, which is these kids who are taken away
Speaker 3: from their families to become Jedi and what does that mean?
Speaker 3: And I'm really excited because I think that's that's a
Speaker 3: very fertile ground for kind of emotional and fun and
Speaker 3: epic Star Wars storytelling.
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. And you are exactly right. We
Speaker 1: are exploring in detail the events surrounding Order sixty six
Speaker 1: from different perspectives, which is a massive tectonic shift in
Speaker 1: galactic history. And it's been really interesting to watch. And
Speaker 1: of course that theme continues in Or We Want Kenobi Up. Next,
Speaker 1: we get a trailer for and Or, which premieres August thirty,
Speaker 1: first show run by Rogue One writer Tony Gilroy.
Speaker 3: Tony Gilroy the script saving Icons and was bringing him in.
Speaker 1: This script saving him Rogue one if you catch me
Speaker 1: on the right day. Rogue one is my favorite Star
Speaker 1: Wars movie. It will I'll never forget. I just watched it,
Speaker 1: by the way, I watched it over the WEEKERD because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to watch it again. It tells
Speaker 1: the story of Diego Luna's Cassian and Or, the kind
Speaker 1: of like morally gray but very dedicated rebel spy who
Speaker 1: is of course one of the heroes involved in stealing
Speaker 1: the Death Star plans. This trailer just looks great. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it's going to be about, but it
Speaker 1: looks really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks so good. And something I think is
Speaker 3: very interesting that I would really love to see this
Speaker 3: dig into more. And I think is one of the
Speaker 3: strengths of Rogue One, which also is very high up
Speaker 3: on my list and sometimes hits number one. Rogue One
Speaker 3: did a really brilliant job of talking about the wreckage
Speaker 3: and horrors raught by both the rebellion higher echelons of
Speaker 3: the rebellion and the Empire, and kind of like that
Speaker 3: really deep truth of who were the people who got
Speaker 3: the medals at the end of the Stars trilogy and
Speaker 3: who were the people who died so that that could happen.
Speaker 3: And this trailer seems to be leaning into that notion
Speaker 3: of the empire sucks, but who are these people in
Speaker 3: charge who are leaving this to these young fighters, to
Speaker 3: these people who have to grovel and beg? And I'm
Speaker 3: really interested. I love that socioeconomic aspect of Star Wars,
Speaker 3: and I think this era has you know, they got
Speaker 3: into it in the Last Jedi. Both people sell them
Speaker 3: buy the weapons, you know, and I'm very interested to
Speaker 3: see where it goes, because that was the main takeaway
Speaker 3: from this trailer was kind of like I felt like
Speaker 3: they were hinting that we were going to see this
Speaker 3: kind of underclass who had allowed the Rebellion to become
Speaker 3: what they are.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what so fascinates me about Roguan. One
Speaker 1: of the things is this idea that you know, a
Speaker 1: character like Sagerera who you know, if you you can
Speaker 1: easily frame him as someone who went too far as
Speaker 1: a terrorist. Even on the other hand, he was kind
Speaker 1: of right about everything about the nature of the empire,
Speaker 1: and he was right early before anybody else was even
Speaker 1: thinking that way. And ultimately you kind of needed a
Speaker 1: figure like that, paranoid maybe willing to act when no
Speaker 1: one else was, in order to spark the thing that
Speaker 1: would end up being the rebellion. And I love exploring
Speaker 1: those spaces. I just love exploring that side of it,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, especially you know, it goes back to that conversation
Speaker 3: from like one of the most iconic fan conversations in
Speaker 3: Kevin Smith's Cluk's right, what they do? What the rebellion do?
Speaker 3: What Luke does? They they blow up Death Star, they
Speaker 3: kill so many people, they commit terrorism that well, it
Speaker 3: could be argued it was terrorism in under the guise
Speaker 3: of Chopper.
Speaker 1: A chopper level body count.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, how is that different to what sore is
Speaker 3: Saw's version is just unsanctioned, right.
Speaker 1: Right, So sad And asked permission, he just wants exactly Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I find that to be a very interesting space
Speaker 3: and always been about the politics. It's always been about
Speaker 3: the bureaucracy, how it works, how it happens. And I
Speaker 3: love that we're now in an era where we're seeing
Speaker 3: that from a street level, not just from a galactic
Speaker 3: senate level.
Speaker 1: So very very excited about this, and very very excited
Speaker 1: about our first look at the Ahsoka series. This of
Speaker 1: course building off of Ahsoka's appearances in Mando. And after
Speaker 1: months and months and months of rumor, we have uh
Speaker 1: casting news with Natasha lu Burdizzo, Australia actress, is gonna
Speaker 1: play Rebels ghost star wart Sabine Writt. We can expect
Speaker 1: a live action Harrison Doula, one of my favorite captains
Speaker 1: of any ship in Star Wars history. And again, if
Speaker 1: you come to me at the right day, that is
Speaker 1: my Star Wars wife.
Speaker 3: We see. And also, like, can I just say that
Speaker 3: this also means speaking of legends, this also means that
Speaker 3: we might get a live action version of her son Jason,
Speaker 3: and his name is like I remember watching I wrote
Speaker 3: about those last two episodes at Slash Film with a
Speaker 3: colleague of mine and we just that was like our
Speaker 3: biggest freakap everything that. Those last two episodes of Rebels
Speaker 3: are probably my favorite TV of all time. Oh it's
Speaker 3: so good, Like the well Beyond world it changed my life.
Speaker 3: I still can't believe they haven't built it further into
Speaker 3: the live action world.
Speaker 1: Beyond Worlds did more maybe than anything, you know, post
Speaker 1: Legends in terms of expanding our perception of what the
Speaker 1: Force is.
Speaker 3: How it interacts.
Speaker 1: With living creatures. Just an incredible episode of Star Wars television.
Speaker 1: And you know, you know, Rebels is my favorite Star Wars.
Speaker 1: I think that in terms of like a run of
Speaker 1: Star Wars stories, it's my favorite. You know, season two
Speaker 1: on is like incredible. The inquisitors again incompetent. They can't
Speaker 1: catch anybody. They can't catch a half trade Ezra Bridger,
Speaker 1: who we expect to see in the Asika series. They
Speaker 1: can't catch an uncited Canaan. They can't catch anybody. But
Speaker 1: that's fine, we'll get into that more. And Obi wan
Speaker 1: uh very very excited for the Asoka series. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then lastly, in.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: One Surprised News, Obi Wan Kenobi star Moses Ingram plays
Speaker 1: inquisitor Riva is only the latest actor talent, person involved
Speaker 1: with Star Wars, person of color involved with Star Wars
Speaker 1: to suffer racist abuse on social media. This follows, of course,
Speaker 1: the experiences of John Boyega, Kelly Murray, Tran events that
Speaker 1: kind of went unremarked upon by the larger corporate powers
Speaker 1: and their colleagues. That lucasfilm is very, very welcome. Fashion
Speaker 1: is pushed back about this, tweeting from the official Star
Speaker 1: Wars account quote, we are proud to welcome Moses Ingram
Speaker 1: to the Star Wars family and excited for Riva's story
Speaker 1: to unfold. Of anyone tends to make her feel in
Speaker 1: any way and welcome. We have only one thing to say,
Speaker 1: we resist. And then even more directly, there are more
Speaker 1: than twenty million cente in species in the Star Wars galaxy.
Speaker 1: Don't choose to be racist. You and McGregor also posted
Speaker 1: in supportive of Moses, and all I have to say
Speaker 1: is one, this is not surprising that, you know, for
Speaker 1: a fandom as large as Star Wars, with a history
Speaker 1: of kind of like of this kind of thing happening,
Speaker 1: It's it's unsurprising this happens. Star Wars is such a
Speaker 1: big fandom, if even if it's only zero point zero
Speaker 1: zero five percent of the fan population that engages in
Speaker 1: this toxic behavior. It's still a lot because the fan
Speaker 1: base is so huge, and it is really really welcome
Speaker 1: to see lucasfilm push back so strongly against it, because
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, we don't need those people can perve
Speaker 1: themselves any thoughts.
Speaker 3: I just agree completely. I love to see you and
Speaker 3: also standing alongside her, and his message was really good.
Speaker 3: This is just the bare minimum of what any of
Speaker 3: these spaces should be doing. It's a shame we have
Speaker 3: to deal with it, but it is the place where
Speaker 3: we're at now, and Moses is amazing and we really amazing.
Speaker 3: We're going to get into why she's such an interesting character,
Speaker 3: and let's do that right now.
Speaker 1: Up next in the airlock, folks are stepping out of
Speaker 1: the airlock into the twice baked dunes of Tattooin that
Speaker 1: are filled with ancient fish meat to discuss the first
Speaker 1: three parts of the Disney Plus limited series Obi Wan Kenobi.
Speaker 1: We start this speed light speed recap with part one.
Speaker 1: We open in really shocking and embracing, emotionally like devastating
Speaker 1: fashion with the massacre at the Jedi Temple, during Order
Speaker 1: sixty six, we see the Jedi patawan's falling, their teachers
Speaker 1: attempting to defend them, but all in vain, and we
Speaker 1: fast forward ten years later. We meet the Inquisitors, We
Speaker 1: meet the Grand Inquisitor, we meet Fifth Brother, we meet
Speaker 1: Third Sister, Reva, and we see them interrogating locals on
Speaker 1: Tattooine as they search for the various remnants of the
Speaker 1: Jedi diaspora who have fled the Masker and are still
Speaker 1: out there somewhere. Young Jedi named Nari played by Benny Safti,
Speaker 1: the part of the directing duo of the Safe Love,
Speaker 1: rescues the canteen owner from Riva and he goes on
Speaker 1: the run. Meanwhile, Obi Wan Kenobi has fully rejected his
Speaker 1: name obi Wan from his Jedi name. He only goes
Speaker 1: by Ben. Now it's not all he's rejected. We come
Speaker 1: to find out over the course of these three episodes
Speaker 1: that his connection with the force is extremely weak, very
Speaker 1: very weak, in part consciously because clearly Ben has been
Speaker 1: so traumatized by the events in his own failure to
Speaker 1: stop the events some ten years past, that he has
Speaker 1: willingly disconnected from the forest. Now he's earning his way
Speaker 1: as a salaried worker butchering sand whale meat and living
Speaker 1: in a cave, watching young Luke skywalker from Afar and
Speaker 1: trying to protect him from from a distance, occasionally making
Speaker 1: contact with his jump again, let's not jump ahead, but
Speaker 1: like oh and Lard, occasionally making a contact with Owen.
Speaker 1: Lar's just to check in, and Owen, of course wants
Speaker 1: very little to do.
Speaker 3: And I just want to say, Owen laws, yes, maybe
Speaker 3: the sassiest man in the gallaxy. He's delivering some sick bun,
Speaker 3: which Obi Wan Canobi definitely deserves. If you've ever watched
Speaker 3: Star Wars, and I know that this is like a
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty split. Fifty percent of people think Obi
Speaker 3: Wan is the coolest guy in the world. I understand it,
Speaker 3: I get it. The other fifty percent like, what is
Speaker 3: wrong with this guy? He is useless? Why didn't he
Speaker 3: tell anyone anything? He is like betraying people constantly, like
Speaker 3: he is just not on it. And you know what,
Speaker 3: this is a show that has given you an in character,
Speaker 3: and it's Owen Last, Who's just like what the fuck, Like,
Speaker 3: please leave my child and my family alone because my
Speaker 3: brother is dead and I'm just done and it is.
Speaker 3: It's great to see it, fantastic.
Speaker 1: Nari are on the run for sensitive ex Jedi perhaps
Speaker 1: comes to Obi Wan excuse me, Ben, he's undercover. That's right,
Speaker 1: he's Ben. Even though many have said this, but Ben,
Speaker 1: stop dressing like a Jedi.
Speaker 3: If you don't, I couldn't. Look, he couldn't dress more
Speaker 3: like a Jedi if he tried. And I'm sure that
Speaker 3: that is like narratively is like he has that connection.
Speaker 3: Maybe he doesn't know how to dress any other way
Speaker 3: because he was stolen at birth by Jedies and raised
Speaker 3: in robes. But seriously, you go, everyone is walking around
Speaker 3: this town being like, oh, where's the Jedi, and this
Speaker 3: guy is just wearing Jedi robes.
Speaker 1: Put on pants, in a shirt, you know what, even.
Speaker 3: A robe that's like purple, even a robe that's not brown,
Speaker 3: the brown robe is it's too much, man.
Speaker 1: So Nari comes to Ben and is like, oh canlby,
Speaker 1: You're my only hope.
Speaker 3: He's like, mast like, let's do it, man, we gonna help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta do something like yes, finally, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's been ten long years. The empire is is it
Speaker 1: seems unshakable. We have to do something and Ben is like, nope, hey,
Speaker 1: good luck to you, wish you well, but I'm out
Speaker 1: of the game. Sorry about it. And it's heartbreaking to
Speaker 1: watch this because this is where, this is how shattered
Speaker 1: and traumatized Ben is. And then we go from here
Speaker 1: to Alderan. We're in it absolutely shocking at the time
Speaker 1: for me. Development We meet the young princess Ghana, who
Speaker 1: is precocious, not one to listen to any kind of
Speaker 1: direction from any kind of adult figure, and it just
Speaker 1: loves being out here running around the woods. I was
Speaker 1: not expecting this and it was amazing.
Speaker 3: It's so amazing, and I have to give a big
Speaker 3: shout out because if you heard, if you listened last week,
Speaker 3: you would have heard us talking about Kathleen Kennedy saying
Speaker 3: we can never recast a character d D. I want
Speaker 3: to give Kathleen five hundred stars for her incredible Red
Speaker 3: Herring interview that she gave to Vanity Fair because this
Speaker 3: I was like, the only thing I want in my
Speaker 3: life is a young princess Leiah show. How will we
Speaker 3: ever get that if we can't recast? And someone at
Speaker 3: Lucasfilm was like, ha ha, well here you go.
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 3: This show is so good. Even by this point, which
Speaker 3: you're like fifteen or twenty minutes in, I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: Youwan is a workhourse. He is selling this like this
Speaker 3: is unbelievable. But the moment that we're in Olderan and
Speaker 3: you see these kind of like people dressing a young
Speaker 3: princess in this costuming that is so obviously Layer, I
Speaker 3: was just I immediately like teared up. And then when you
Speaker 3: see this character in this this actress who plays a
Speaker 3: Vivian Lyrah bless, she is like one definitely named after
Speaker 3: h Northern Lights by Philip Pullman, and two like she
Speaker 3: is just so evocative of everything that made Lea so great.
Speaker 3: She has like this aptitude and just gratitude, this sassy
Speaker 3: but chill and also like doesn't give a fuck. Like
Speaker 3: it's it's so good and I can't believe that Disney
Speaker 3: stealthed us once again, but instead of Baby Yoda, this
Speaker 3: time it's Baby Layer and I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it so much. We meet Lea, she's running
Speaker 1: around in the forest. We get what I suspect. I
Speaker 1: think we both suspect are meant to be hints of
Speaker 1: her very instinctively using the Force as she runs around
Speaker 1: at play and later on, despite being directed to not
Speaker 1: run away and go run through the woods again, she
Speaker 1: goes and does it anyway and is waylaid by a
Speaker 1: group of bounty hunters led by Knock Crew aka Flee
Speaker 1: from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. It's quickly real that
Speaker 1: Knockerws Gang was hired by Reva the Inquisitors to rure
Speaker 1: Kenobe out of hiding, which is our first hint that
Speaker 1: Riva is obsessed for whatever reason, with finding Kenoby. Bail
Speaker 1: organa Jimmy Smith's still collecting checks after all these years.
Speaker 3: This guy had not Jimmy. They knew it. They knew it.
Speaker 3: They Jimmy could not look more thrilled.
Speaker 1: To appear unscreened. And yet another Star Wars story. I
Speaker 1: absolutely love it for my guy a heat content X.
Speaker 1: His old friend gets a message as all friend obi Wan,
Speaker 1: saying listen, I need you, I need you. Have to
Speaker 1: You're the only one that I know who can do this.
Speaker 1: Please help me. And Obi Wan, who has spent all
Speaker 1: these years trying to reject his identity as a Jedi
Speaker 1: is connection to the Force, gets on a transport with
Speaker 1: his lightsaber to head off and try and find Princess Lea.
Speaker 1: That brings us Part two.
Speaker 3: And that's like another one of my favorite moments in
Speaker 3: this show that I think really speaks to how these
Speaker 3: Star Wars TV shows are building out the context and
Speaker 3: language of these shows is like, at first, Obi Wan
Speaker 3: tells Bail, He's like, no, no, I've got to look
Speaker 3: after the boy. And Bail says the thing that every
Speaker 3: single person in the universe has been saying for so long.
Speaker 3: It's like the girl matters too, Like she is also
Speaker 3: your responsibility, Like this is an important person. And we
Speaker 3: know that that was something that has always lee, It
Speaker 3: has always been a force to be reckoned with in
Speaker 3: the galaxy. But as we've gotten later in the kind
Speaker 3: of franchise's history and more contemporary, more and more people
Speaker 3: are saying, I want to know more about her, Like
Speaker 3: why wasn't that, Why wasn't she the chosen one? She
Speaker 3: was for sensitive blah blah blah blah blah, And I
Speaker 3: kind of love love that once again, this nod to
Speaker 3: that conversation and it calls Obi Wan out, and you
Speaker 3: know what he does, He does the right thing and
Speaker 3: he gets on that transport and episode two.
Speaker 1: Obi arrives on Dayu, which is an urbanized planet where
Speaker 1: all off world communication and signals are essentially blocked. This
Speaker 1: is a crime planet where anything goes, spice dealing, spice trading,
Speaker 1: you know, creature, alien, human trafficking. OBI walking down the
Speaker 1: street recognized as an old veteran of the what appears
Speaker 1: to be the five oh first Clone Troopers. This got
Speaker 1: me so my god, I was not expecting this. And
Speaker 1: there's that moment, and this is why umni Girder is
Speaker 1: so good. There's a moment where it's all on his face.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's this connection of Oh, here's here's a person,
Speaker 1: you know, a clone of a person from a group
Speaker 1: that I worked so closely with for many years. We
Speaker 1: fought side by side from planet to planet, bled together.
Speaker 1: But I'm terrified because if this clone recognizes me, Boom
Speaker 1: or Order sixty six will retrigger and yeah, I'm in trouble.
Speaker 1: And you're sitting there wondering, like, God, will will he recognize?
Speaker 1: Will it trigger?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And they just pulled tomorrow. They were like, tomorrow,
Speaker 3: come over here and play this clone. And I was like, yes, finally,
Speaker 3: like a recognition of that connection. Yeah, it's I mean,
Speaker 3: Youwan is just pulling the heavy Judy. He is so
Speaker 3: good in this role. It's just it's mind blowing to
Speaker 3: see it. It's so emotionally driven, and so much of
Speaker 3: it weighs on those close ups on his face of
Speaker 3: the storytelling that he puts across in like the slightest
Speaker 3: facial expression.
Speaker 1: And it really is like, you know, delving into this
Speaker 1: period between a new Hope after the Clone Wars, it
Speaker 1: is an absolutely tragic period where you know, if you're
Speaker 1: a surviving Jedi, one, you're terrified, you're afraid. Two all
Speaker 1: you can think about is how did we fuck this up?
Speaker 1: How did we feel? Like, yes, Palpatine was right there,
Speaker 1: and we missed it, all of us, Like Yoda missed it.
Speaker 3: Yoda missed it.
Speaker 1: Missed it, everybody missed it. Uh. Just an unbelievable, unbelievably
Speaker 1: tragic time and it's and you can really feel it
Speaker 1: with you And.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like that moment of having the
Speaker 3: Clone troop of that is like such a great recognition
Speaker 3: of the real cost of that war, Like it's not
Speaker 3: just the Jedis who felt it, like it's the Clone truth.
Speaker 1: Clones thrown away too. We don't even need them anymore.
Speaker 1: You know, we're we're on store trooper time now, like
Speaker 1: that you can get rid of these clones. We don't
Speaker 1: need them.
Speaker 3: It's like this, these veterans who have been abandoned by
Speaker 3: the Empire, by the people who use them in this war.
Speaker 3: Is there's so much texture and like these little nods
Speaker 3: that that give this a real that they reill add
Speaker 3: to that like tragic element of this period.
Speaker 1: Obi is met by a kid named Jacob. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like a street smart, young street urchin kid. He's like,
Speaker 1: do you need a Jedi? I know a Jedi if
Speaker 1: you're looking for you know, if you're you know, you
Speaker 1: need something some kind of mission accomplished. Guess what I
Speaker 1: know a Jedi. It was like, that sounds interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd like to meet a Jedi. It turns out this
Speaker 1: Jedi named Haja es Tree is really just a con man.
Speaker 1: He's doing good, helping, you know, people get off planet
Speaker 1: when they really need to get off planet, but you
Speaker 1: know he's doing it for money, and of course he
Speaker 1: has no affinity with the Force. He just has some
Speaker 1: decent sleight of hand skills and really powerful magnets. Obi
Speaker 1: Wan exposes Haja forces him to help him find lea Later,
Speaker 1: obi still somewhat tentatively in contact with the force, manages
Speaker 1: to follow his feelings to a spice lab run by
Speaker 1: some kind of organized crime group. He gets in there,
Speaker 1: blows up some beakers for distraction, heads deeper into the building,
Speaker 1: has a fight with a Datha Marian and a human,
Speaker 1: and then he finds this room that he's looking for,
Speaker 1: but of course it's a trap. Vek Knak cru and
Speaker 1: his Henschees show up. They start beating the shit out
Speaker 1: of Obi Wan, but then Obi Wan throws a flask
Speaker 1: of spice on the ground and puts on a mask
Speaker 1: so he doesn't get high off spice, and he escapes. Finally,
Speaker 1: deeper in the complex, he finds Leah, and the young
Speaker 1: princess is like, who the fuck are you?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: Who are you? I don't know you at all?
Speaker 1: You're to rescue me? You're one fucking guy. Where's the army?
Speaker 1: Why is why is it? My My dad sends the
Speaker 1: army in here, and it's a wonderful mirror of the
Speaker 1: events of a New Hope with later on, you know,
Speaker 1: Luke Skyworker will come to rescue and be like you you're
Speaker 1: here to rescue me, and an equally interesting mirror of
Speaker 1: you know, here's here's here's ben Kenobi rescuing a skywalker,
Speaker 1: but it's not the one you expect. It's Princess Leah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I know that a lot. Like some
Speaker 3: people had been like, oh, isn't this like a plot
Speaker 3: hole because like before, she just mentioned that she he
Speaker 3: knew his dad her dad. But actually, if you think
Speaker 3: about it, in that moment when Luke comes in and
Speaker 3: he says ben Kenobi, she knows who that is. Yeah,
Speaker 3: in a hope, she doesn't need it to be obi
Speaker 3: Wan Kenobi, which is what she says on her little
Speaker 3: you know, obi wan Kenobi, you're my only hope. I
Speaker 3: think this actually feels very natural to that, and I
Speaker 3: also it feels like it adds It's like it's additive,
Speaker 3: you know, it feels like it adds something to the
Speaker 3: original trilogy. And also I really think something they're seeding
Speaker 3: really well here with that question that Leah asks, where
Speaker 3: she says, you know, where's the army. They're seeding this
Speaker 3: understanding that Leya is going to come to and it's happening. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we have to fight. And also as well, why can't
Speaker 3: my dad send an us Because she's starting to realize
Speaker 3: that there's something about her lineage, her family that makes
Speaker 3: her vulnerable. And it's very it's very interesting, and I
Speaker 3: this fits so well with the new books and the
Speaker 3: kind of cool canon they've built in about her as
Speaker 3: a teenager and also a lot of expanded universe stuff
Speaker 3: where she was like a great a great warrior and
Speaker 3: a great leader as well. So it's yeah, it's just
Speaker 3: so good. And I lot her and you and are
Speaker 3: so good together. The chemistry is like exactly there, and
Speaker 3: we get so many good moments in this episode. In
Speaker 3: the next episode where Ben is just seeing Annie and
Speaker 3: padme when he looks at her and it is just
Speaker 3: fucking great. It will make you cry.
Speaker 1: It gets you absolutely in the heart. The two slip
Speaker 1: away in kind of disguise Obi again, still dressed like
Speaker 1: a Jedi, because this fucking guy, it can't help it.
Speaker 1: Reva finds a vet, of course, the people that she
Speaker 1: hired to do this kidnapping job, and she finds them
Speaker 1: absolutely diluted on spice and she realizes how Obie one
Speaker 1: must be close. Obi and Layer are heading for a
Speaker 1: spaceport across town. Meanwhile, the Grand Inquisitor and the fourth
Speaker 1: Sister and the fifth brother are fucking pissed. Reva's obsession
Speaker 1: with Kenobe is getting to be a problem. It's a
Speaker 1: big mess here she is she ended into this fucking kidnapping.
Speaker 1: The Empire doesn't need a diplomatic crisis with Aldron right now, Like,
Speaker 1: why are you making waves at that level? You know,
Speaker 1: like you shouldn't be doing that. Riva's like, listen in
Speaker 1: what I found to be a very interesting dialogue. I
Speaker 1: went in the archives. I found a link between Obie
Speaker 1: and Arghana, and that's how I realized that the princess
Speaker 1: would be the perfect bait to lure Obi Wan, one
Speaker 1: of the most dangerous Jedi still alive. Now, they didn't
Speaker 1: specify what archive, right, but when I hear archives, so
Speaker 1: the Grand Inquisitor. Back in the Darth Vader comics, the
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen Darth Vader comics, not the twenty twenty, we
Speaker 1: learned that the Grand Inquisitor his turn to the dark Side,
Speaker 1: which was done in secret. Darth had no idea about it.
Speaker 1: That Emperor did this like as his own pet project
Speaker 1: and then revealed it to Darth and it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you can lead these guys the Grand Inquisitor the way
Speaker 1: in to turning him. In addition to the torture, so
Speaker 1: the kobe Is tortures, all the massive torture that they
Speaker 1: all underwent, was that the Grand Inquisitor, you know, used
Speaker 1: to be a Jedi padawan, and he was like mad
Speaker 1: that the the lead archivist of the Jedi Archive, Jedi
Speaker 1: librarian Jacosta Nu, wouldn't let him read the books he wanted.
Speaker 1: He wanted all this knowledge, but of course that's not
Speaker 1: meant for everybody, and DaCosta knew was like no, and
Speaker 1: that was like kind of his way in. So when
Speaker 1: he rose to be the Grand Inquisitor and they had
Speaker 1: access to the Jedi Archive, like he would just spend
Speaker 1: evenings in there reading everything that he wasn't supposed to
Speaker 1: read and luxuriating in it. All of which, now later on,
Speaker 1: this is getting off track a little bit, but I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna later on to Costa Nu, in an absolutely
Speaker 1: clutch move, would delete the entire Jedi Archive rather than
Speaker 1: it fall into the hands of the Empire. This is
Speaker 1: very very early on, and I wonder, you know, understanding
Speaker 1: how the Grand Inquisitor feels about archive, the Jedi archive,
Speaker 1: and probably knowledge in general. It's very interesting to me
Speaker 1: that Reva would have access to stuff like this, where
Speaker 1: should be able to find these clues and it and
Speaker 1: I think we are certainly meant to wonder if this
Speaker 1: is the Jedi archive.
Speaker 3: Right absolutely, And also I think that what we're getting
Speaker 3: into now, I mean, this was very heavily in Boba Fet.
Speaker 3: It's been hinted at in the Mandalorian. It's definitely the
Speaker 3: kind of space that we're in on DIO. This is
Speaker 3: a cyberpunk era of Star Wars. If there were Jedi archives,
Speaker 3: somebody hacked them and somebody has a copy. If there
Speaker 3: were Jedi archives, the Grand Inquisitor may well have downloaded
Speaker 3: the things he wanted from before. Then the question is
Speaker 3: they're doing something really clever with Reva. One of the
Speaker 3: biggest issues in a lot of Disney stuff, stylear stuff, whatever,
Speaker 3: is like when they cost a person of color, they
Speaker 3: make them a villain and they're like irredeemable and they
Speaker 3: kill them, or they make them a good guy and
Speaker 3: they kill them. But like with Reva, they're doing something
Speaker 3: that they never really do, which is Reva has her
Speaker 3: own reason for being after Obi Wan Kenobi and being
Speaker 3: a mystery is really just a it's like a step
Speaker 3: to getting Kenobi, rather than she doesn't really care about
Speaker 3: the Empire. She doesn't bow down to the the Inquisitors,
Speaker 3: she doesn't really play by their rules. She has this
Speaker 3: secondary life. They talk about her being from the gutter,
Speaker 3: you know, and she has these connections in the Diu Underwel.
Speaker 1: Which I took and I'm sure you did, to mean
Speaker 1: that she even more than the other inquisitors had gone
Speaker 1: through the Jedi training process, maybe further than the others. Yes,
Speaker 1: was taken later perhaps, but perhaps even was one of
Speaker 1: these kids that survived sixty six. Yes, And and that
Speaker 1: is why they look down on her so much, is
Speaker 1: because she is more firmly connected with the Jedi.
Speaker 3: And the Force, because they say to her that her
Speaker 3: skills and her powers were what got her the standing.
Speaker 3: And we see later in this episode she's like a
Speaker 3: wirework queen like also she Interestingly, they're kind of mirroring
Speaker 3: two aspects of They're mirroring an aspect that both she
Speaker 3: and Lea seem to share, which is an almost telepathic
Speaker 3: empathy where they can read situations. And that's a version
Speaker 3: of the Force we haven't seen a lot, but has
Speaker 3: been hinted at. And yeah, I definitely think the opening
Speaker 3: of the first episode, which we talked about briefly, where
Speaker 3: we saw the younglings being massacred, I think Reavers survived that,
Speaker 3: and I think that is why she is upset with
Speaker 3: Kenobi or has this deeper connection to Anakin that we
Speaker 3: kind of see.
Speaker 1: We will deal. We will delve more into those questions
Speaker 1: quite soon. So the Great Inquisitor, Listen, they need to
Speaker 1: work out their chemistry as a team. It's not working.
Speaker 1: You could get like, like, it's not just this. I
Speaker 1: understand that they probably caught other Jedi that many of
Speaker 1: whom we don't know about. But when it comes to
Speaker 1: crunch time, Calcastis Canaan Jarris, ezra Obi Wan godobis the
Speaker 1: Jedi to new even like, yeah, there's like extenuating circumsances
Speaker 1: of that one Farren Barr, who was like a corrupted Jedi.
Speaker 1: Like they just they step on their own capes and
Speaker 1: it's very tough, and I think a lot of it
Speaker 1: is because they can't. They they don't work well as
Speaker 1: a team, and we saw it here.
Speaker 3: Also, we should say if you are not well fast
Speaker 3: in this Yeah, the very interesting thing about the Inquisitors
Speaker 3: that makes them so tragic and a great symptom of
Speaker 3: this tragic time. They are Jedi who were tortured and
Speaker 3: time did the dark Side and now hunt down Jedi.
Speaker 3: So it is like a really brutal, awful thing. I
Speaker 3: actually think can narratively explain why they're kind of bad
Speaker 3: at their.
Speaker 4: Jobs, and also because they did not choose, they're like
Speaker 4: they were like tortured and corrupted, and that they find
Speaker 4: it very hard and everyone's ambitions, which we see in
Speaker 4: this episode and in the next episode.
Speaker 3: They're very furious, the ambitions to be near Vader, to
Speaker 3: be near the ultimate corrupted Jedi, and that kind of
Speaker 3: seems to be driving everything. And it's really interesting because
Speaker 3: I feel like, again, like you said, the bad at
Speaker 3: their job is bad chemistry. This almost seems kind of
Speaker 3: a bit of an answer to that, because we've all
Speaker 3: been laughing for a long time, like how do these
Speaker 3: Jedis survive or to sixty six? Did it work? And
Speaker 3: I feel like in this show they're kind of trying
Speaker 3: to build out a little bit more about the inquisitism
Speaker 3: why it might not be working.
Speaker 1: I think that In addition to that, you know they
Speaker 1: aren't Siths very consciously get into them a second. But
Speaker 1: the Sith philosophy is certainly what is animating them, and
Speaker 1: the rule of two, which said that no two cyths
Speaker 1: could ever exit more no more than two Sith lords
Speaker 1: could ever be round at the same time because they
Speaker 1: try and kill each other. It certainly holds like the
Speaker 1: ambition that drives the Sith, the paranoia, the lust for power, etcetera,
Speaker 1: does not necessarily lend itself to working as a team.
Speaker 1: And then secondarily, Palpatine very consciously does not want them
Speaker 1: brought up in the Sith tradition and consciously selected ex
Speaker 1: patawans for sensitives who he thought would never be powerful
Speaker 1: enough to ever challenge him or even come close to
Speaker 1: challenging him. So he specifically picked people who were just
Speaker 1: not that good with the force, which is why when
Speaker 1: we see Reave of running around the rooftip, we realize, oh,
Speaker 1: there's something different about her.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, the Grand Inquisitor takes Reeve off the case.
Speaker 1: It's like you're off that you're out of here. He'd
Speaker 1: caused so much trouble. I will bring in Kenobi myself Riva,
Speaker 1: of course, is not going to take that. She is
Speaker 1: not going to give up.
Speaker 3: He can't take the credit.
Speaker 1: She dabs in Kenobi the that's right, So she puts
Speaker 1: Kenobe's name out on the street all throughout DAYU. Now
Speaker 1: the whole planet of all these gangsters and criminals and
Speaker 1: street urchins are all looking for Kenobi and this young princess,
Speaker 1: Princess Leah is we learn in this sequence. She is curious,
Speaker 1: she's independent, she is smart beyond her years, but dangerously
Speaker 1: a little. She is so courageous that she's a little
Speaker 1: naive about how dangerous things are all around her.
Speaker 3: She does and she's been on older on her whole life,
Speaker 3: so we're safe. Yeah, she's never been in a situation
Speaker 3: like this, so she's very much like I'll just saw
Speaker 3: it out and it's like, babe, your ten and your
Speaker 3: legs are like two inches long, like it just take
Speaker 3: us that can hang out with the Jedi.
Speaker 1: As this criminal of all points bulletin goes out, it
Speaker 1: is received by the kid Jacob and Hadja. They see
Speaker 1: it and they decide, okay, we have to help. We're
Speaker 1: gonna help. Meanwhile, the Grand Inquisitor discovers that the whole
Speaker 1: city now knows about Kenobi, and he's like, fucking and again,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you. Obi and Leah understanding that the
Speaker 1: city's hot right now, they hide out in an alley. Uh. Leyah,
Speaker 1: through their little conversations here realizes hold on a second,
Speaker 1: I was bait because they're looking for you. They're actually
Speaker 1: looking for you. Why are they looking for you?
Speaker 3: Who are you?
Speaker 1: What is going on? And she makes a run for it,
Speaker 1: and now Obi has to like fight all these various
Speaker 1: street criminals in Dyu, all these bounty hunters while catching
Speaker 1: up attempting to catch up with the slowest running yet
Speaker 1: most elusive ten year old ever, which I should say,
Speaker 1: like there's been a lot of joking about this. I
Speaker 1: think that I think it's quite clear what they're trying
Speaker 1: to suggest here through the various chase scenes that we've
Speaker 1: seen with Leah young Leya, is that she is instinctively
Speaker 1: using the force to make people miss like she doesn't
Speaker 1: know she's doing it. They don't maybe know, they don't
Speaker 1: maybe realize that it's happening. But I think those opening
Speaker 1: scenes in the forests of all around, we're leading us
Speaker 1: to that conclusion that she's using the force somehow without
Speaker 1: knowing it.
Speaker 3: In the first in the forest scene, you kind of
Speaker 3: very evocative of what we've seen in Leia in the
Speaker 3: original trilogy and the new stuff. So it was like
Speaker 3: really emotional, but also there's this great like the best
Speaker 3: because there's a lot that has been said about these
Speaker 3: chase scenes. I'm a young layer Stan, so I'm just like,
Speaker 3: go for it. Maybe you can make it. But like,
Speaker 3: the one thing that I think they do, the one
Speaker 3: scene they do really well in that moment is like
Speaker 3: she slides away from them under a tree and it's
Speaker 3: like really slick and they still manage to get her
Speaker 3: because there's so many of them. But definitely in this scene,
Speaker 3: especially with what we're about to learn about obi Wan,
Speaker 3: I think that the notion is that the reason that
Speaker 3: they can't catch her is they kind of it's it's
Speaker 3: the it's the spell thing that we talked about.
Speaker 1: There's only there's no way.
Speaker 3: You always look the wrong way, you always something distracts you,
Speaker 3: someone comes in your way, and for some reason, you're
Speaker 3: an adult man or men and you just can't catch
Speaker 3: that ten year old And it's the force that's the reasoning.
Speaker 1: In this world, who parkours. It's Jedi and for sensitive people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Leah flees to a rooftop. Ben is in pursuit. Also,
Speaker 1: the inquisitors have been reinforced by a battalion of stormtroopers,
Speaker 1: and of course Reva is up on these rooftops, just
Speaker 1: kind of peering around waiting for any kind of clue
Speaker 1: that Obi Wan has poked his head up. They're up
Speaker 1: on these rooftops. Ben is trading blaster shots with some
Speaker 1: random bounty hunters. Meanwhile, he's trying to get Leah to
Speaker 1: come to him, to come out of safety. She is
Speaker 1: scared of him. She sees a gap between buildings. She's like,
Speaker 1: I can jump to this other rooftop to safety. It
Speaker 1: is way too far, but like again those perhaps those
Speaker 1: Jedi instincts kicking in telling you you can maybe do this,
Speaker 1: you know, she leaps, doesn't come anywhere close. Obie manages
Speaker 1: to reconnect to the force and he in the last minute,
Speaker 1: saves her life, saves her from falling to her death,
Speaker 1: and gently deposits her on the ground. On the ground,
Speaker 1: Hadja points them to a cargo port. Is like he
Speaker 1: saves their life, which goes unremarked upon, and then he's like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: here's how you get out. You go to this cargo port.
Speaker 1: It's fully automated. There's nobody actually there. It's all droids
Speaker 1: and computers. You can go there and you can get out.
Speaker 1: You head to Mapuzo. From there. Obie is like, I
Speaker 1: don't trust you, but we you know, what choice do
Speaker 1: I have. They head off to the cargoport. Haja intercepts
Speaker 1: Reva and he tries to bluffer. He's like, hey, guess
Speaker 1: why you're looking for Jedi. I'm a jedim here. Uh
Speaker 1: And she's like, no, you're not. You're not a Jedi,
Speaker 1: but you know something and I'm going to use the
Speaker 1: force to pull it out of you. Meanwhile, Obie is
Speaker 1: getting to know Layup. He tells her that you remind
Speaker 1: me of someone, and that someone is not spelled out,
Speaker 1: but certainly by the description is the Duchess Sateine, leader
Speaker 1: of mandalor.
Speaker 3: I think it's multi I think it's like multifaceted. I
Speaker 3: see when he stops so, I think when he starts
Speaker 3: saying it's how he's like, you're really stubborn, and I
Speaker 3: think he reminds her of Anakin. And then I think
Speaker 3: he's He's like, you don't let me tell you what
Speaker 3: to do. And I think she reminds him of Padme
Speaker 3: and and when he says she was a leader, I
Speaker 3: think she reminds me. Love that, And I think it's this.
Speaker 3: I think it's this kind of like he's constantly going
Speaker 3: through these memories of these three people that he lost,
Speaker 3: and she is kind of this. She reminds him of
Speaker 3: what he was trying to save with Satine, and then
Speaker 3: she is literally like he is looking in the face yes,
Speaker 3: of these two people who he loved. So I love that.
Speaker 3: And I had a friend, amazing Joe Alminique, who texted
Speaker 3: me the exact same thing about Setine. I think it
Speaker 3: is I think that's like, I think that's the third
Speaker 3: key of the loss that he is going through, and
Speaker 3: I think Laya is all of that for him.
Speaker 1: Riva catches up with Obi and Leya at the cargo port.
Speaker 1: Obi's like, Lea, go go without me, just go get
Speaker 1: to the ship. I'll meet you there. Obi's connection, as
Speaker 1: we mentioned, is with the forces very tentative. Riva is
Speaker 1: kind of searching for Obi amongst all the cargo and
Speaker 1: she's trash talking him and she mentions that Lord Vader
Speaker 1: has been looking for him, and then it is in
Speaker 1: this moment where Obi Wan realizes that Anakin Skywalker survived
Speaker 1: being maimed on most of far laying laying by him
Speaker 1: laying on a field of lava. His mission was to
Speaker 1: stop Anakin Skywalker, to stop the threat of the Syth
Speaker 1: to the galaxy, to kill him. Obie didn't do it.
Speaker 1: He walked away. He didn't make sure. He thought maybe
Speaker 1: the deal was finished and he couldn't bring himself to
Speaker 1: actually finish him off. He walked away. And it's in
Speaker 1: this moment almost you know, ten years after those events,
Speaker 1: that he learns that Anakin Skywalker is alive and has
Speaker 1: been looking for him. And it is an absolutely terrifying,
Speaker 1: an incredible moment which leads us to wonder, So this
Speaker 1: is something we've been talking a lot about and wondering
Speaker 1: a lot about in our pre production meeting and our calls. Man.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of people at this time know that
Speaker 1: Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader. It's like Obi Wan Kenobi,
Speaker 1: who didn't even know that Anakin was still alive, right,
Speaker 1: It's Yoda just found just found out knew it right now,
Speaker 1: He knew that Anakin had been christened Lord Vader by Palpatine,
Speaker 1: but he didn't know that he was still doing his
Speaker 1: thing as Darth Vader. He didn't know that, didn't even
Speaker 1: know that, yeah, it didn't apparently know that Darth Vader
Speaker 1: was a person in the world Yoda who has been
Speaker 1: out of it. Emperor Palpatine, of course, who turned him.
Speaker 1: Jocosta Knu, the librarian of the Jedi Archive, who found
Speaker 1: out because and this is like the first year of
Speaker 1: Darth Vader's existence. Darth Vader goes into the Jedi Library
Speaker 1: and the security droid there is like Anakin Skywalker. I
Speaker 1: recognize you. You're not You're not cleared to come into
Speaker 1: this area, and Jocosta overhears that, and much to her shock,
Speaker 1: discovers that Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader. And that is terrifying.
Speaker 1: Grandma of Tarkan or just mop Tarkan at this time,
Speaker 1: who does not who does know? He figures that he
Speaker 1: kind of salutes it out Phara enough.
Speaker 3: It's like very early on, and he probably hasn't told anyone, right,
Speaker 3: he probably hasn't hearned it totally.
Speaker 1: And this is like and that's like five years into
Speaker 1: the Empire. So a number of years before this and
Speaker 1: after Jakastanu Farren Barr, who was the ruined Jedi who
Speaker 1: was secretly advising the King of Mancala Lee Char and
Speaker 1: was kind of manipulating was not even kind of was
Speaker 1: manipulating the Mancalamari into direct conflict with the Empire, hoping
Speaker 1: to spark the rebellion. But he knew because he had
Speaker 1: seen the videotapes I think the security tapes from the
Speaker 1: Jedi Temple. He knew that Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader.
Speaker 1: He talks about it. This is in the Darth Vader
Speaker 1: comic and he tells his acolytes all about it. So
Speaker 1: his acolytes, I guess, would also.
Speaker 3: Know, and.
Speaker 1: Not that many others. We think Masamda must have known.
Speaker 1: The Grand Visy was the Empire.
Speaker 3: When it works out, but it's not confirmed that we
Speaker 3: could find.
Speaker 1: But the fact that Reeven knows and is just throwing
Speaker 1: the name out there is very notable to me. And
Speaker 1: as we're gonna talk about in part three, she seems
Speaker 1: to have a special relationship with Yep with anagain Skywalker
Speaker 1: Darth Vader. So did Anakin save her from the Master
Speaker 1: did he take kind her his wing?
Speaker 3: What? How does she know?
Speaker 1: And how does she feel so comfortable just revealing this,
Speaker 1: because that's a bit.
Speaker 3: This is a big deal. I think that Anakin as
Speaker 3: we know him, even in his Darth Vader form, especially
Speaker 3: if you've read those Darth Vada comics, you know that
Speaker 3: there is still an internal battle going on and he
Speaker 3: has accepted the dark side, but he he feels guilt
Speaker 3: and he does wonder about You can tell that he
Speaker 3: wonders about what could have been like this different path
Speaker 3: he could have gone on. And I I wonder if
Speaker 3: he saved Reaver and potentially are the younglings because that
Speaker 3: him killing those young Wings was the moment he turned
Speaker 3: to the dark side, and that is kind of I
Speaker 3: wonder if there is a level of reflection and guilt there.
Speaker 3: And also this fits in very well to this comic
Speaker 3: book version of Anakin slash Vader that we met. Who
Speaker 3: can have these unexpected alliances with people like doctor Afrez,
Speaker 3: like there are relationships that can be built there even
Speaker 3: in this person that we thought was this cold blooded,
Speaker 3: cold hearted, fully dark side person. No, this is still
Speaker 3: the era where he was able to make connections with people.
Speaker 3: He was able to make alliances and Reavera knows she
Speaker 3: knows before obi Wan like that's his brother, his lover, whoever,
Speaker 3: whatever way you read it, like that is the person
Speaker 3: he was most connected to. And we get to see
Speaker 3: that as like the episode ends in like give, give
Speaker 3: you and all the awards for that final scene.
Speaker 1: It's all there on his face and it is it is.
Speaker 1: It's truly shocking, truly truly shocking. The as this trash
Speaker 1: talking has happened, the Grand Inquisitor shows up and he's like, ah,
Speaker 1: I caught you, Reva, I caught you disobeying my orders
Speaker 1: trying to bring in obi Wan Kanomia. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: with myself. I gonna show you hat's done. And Riva's
Speaker 1: like nope, and she stabs him through the gut.
Speaker 6: Killing him.
Speaker 1: No, he's actually fine.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: For those of you know that because of the cannon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know that for the because of rebels and
Speaker 1: then the other canon comic book stuff. He he uh.
Speaker 1: I won't say what his fate is. For those of
Speaker 1: you who want to take that journey, it's a really
Speaker 1: fun one. He he ends up leaving the story in
Speaker 1: a very interesting way. I'll just say that, but he
Speaker 1: is still alive right here, although the show is clearly
Speaker 1: playing very coy with it for those who were just
Speaker 1: into the live action, haven't done the animated stuff for
Speaker 1: the comic books and aren't aware of what goes on
Speaker 1: with the grandom prisoner. He is out here for a
Speaker 1: number of years later, being incompetent yet again, Obie and
Speaker 1: Lea make good their escape. All the way in the
Speaker 1: cargo ship, Obi feels his old pupil and in reaching
Speaker 1: out with the force, and then far away in Fortress
Speaker 1: Vader on Mustafar. It is back to tank Anakin's eyes
Speaker 1: open and we get chills. Oh my god, what what
Speaker 1: a moment?
Speaker 3: Yeah, obi obi Wan says, I kid, and then we
Speaker 3: hear that James L. Jones, he's back ninety one years young,
Speaker 3: giving us the doth Dade.
Speaker 1: Sounding as strong as ever.
Speaker 3: That moment is just like I already thought. I was
Speaker 3: like they got me with these first two episodes. I
Speaker 3: didn't know how it was going to be feeling about
Speaker 3: this show. But baby Lea like, I love this, This
Speaker 3: is everything I want. Obi Wan, who's introspective, But that
Speaker 3: moment when they reignite that connection and you remember why
Speaker 3: the pre course has stood the test of time. Why
Speaker 3: these characters mean so much to people that connection between
Speaker 3: them is just like that is that's like they felt
Speaker 3: like a historic momently in Star Wars, but also in
Speaker 3: like Prestige TV. Like Debra Chow's doing such a brilliant
Speaker 3: job in these episodes, and that framing of Ewan's face
Speaker 3: and then seeing that reflection of the back to tank
Speaker 3: and the eyes opening, you know that Darth Vader has
Speaker 3: been in his suit all the time, like living this
Speaker 3: Darth Vader, right, that's the notion, But in that moment,
Speaker 3: it almost makes you feel like he's just been in
Speaker 3: the back to Tank for ten years waiting to hear Obi.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like they there's it's that it feels
Speaker 3: that huge, that monumented. I mean, that's got to be
Speaker 3: one of the that is like Disney always does a
Speaker 3: good job teasing with the the episode amounts that they choose,
Speaker 3: whether it's three, whether it's two, whatever, that's going to
Speaker 3: be the hook where you're just like, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it hooked me.
Speaker 3: That was very smart to do that episode now.
Speaker 1: Very smart to just drop those two first. And that
Speaker 1: takes us on to Part three release this week. On
Speaker 1: the cargo ship out a diu Obi Wan meditates on
Speaker 1: these recent and very very troubling events, including the revelation
Speaker 1: that is old Patawan Anakin Skywalker is alive and is
Speaker 1: doing a lot of mass murdering across the galaxies. Lord
Speaker 1: Darth Vader Ben tries to connect with the spirit the
Speaker 1: energy of his old mass or Quai gon Jin through
Speaker 1: the force, but his connection is just too muddled, it's
Speaker 1: too weak. Still, he is inundated instead with these troubling
Speaker 1: images and memories. He sees Darth Vader emerging from his
Speaker 1: back to tank suiting up. He hears and remembers snippets
Speaker 1: of conversation from his clash with Anakin at the end
Speaker 1: of revel to the scyth on the slopes of Mustafarr
Speaker 1: and elsewhere. He hears Reva taunting him. Meanwhile, across the
Speaker 1: galaxy on Mustafar Fortress, Vader Darth emerges from his tank.
Speaker 1: He has a zoom call with Reva. So this is
Speaker 1: what we were talking about, the fact that they have
Speaker 1: nobody contact. Vader doesn't really have one to one conversations
Speaker 1: with a lot of people, you know. It's like really
Speaker 1: just it's like Tarken level people. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: the not a lot of other people. So he has
Speaker 1: this zoom call of Reva. He harangues her for her
Speaker 1: failure to capture Obi Wan. Reva's like, by the way,
Speaker 1: the Obi Wan stabbed the Grand Inquisitor, and Darthur is like,
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 3: He's like, he is a relevant I.
Speaker 1: Don't give a shit about the Grand Inquisitor. Uh, which
Speaker 1: I'll get into it later, and he Vader doesn't care
Speaker 1: about the Grand Inquisitor. He's obsessed with finding his old master.
Speaker 1: Darth is like, listen, I know what you want. You
Speaker 1: want to be the Grand Inquisitor and guess what you
Speaker 1: find obi Wan Kenobi. I think I can make that happen.
Speaker 1: But if you fail, and you know, Darth Vader doesn't
Speaker 1: need to finish the sentence when d Vader says, if
Speaker 1: you fail, you just better not fail. On the cargo ship,
Speaker 1: Ben fixes Lea's little droid Lola, and then they have
Speaker 1: a talk about the Force. Lea's like, what does it
Speaker 1: feel like?
Speaker 5: What's it like?
Speaker 1: He's the Force? You know, would it like to be
Speaker 1: a Jedi? And he uses this really wonderful metaphor says
Speaker 1: I love this so much. Absolutely. He's like, have you
Speaker 1: ever been afraid in the dark and then you turn
Speaker 1: on the light? What's it feel like? She's like, it
Speaker 1: feels safe. He's like, that's what it feels like. I
Speaker 1: thought this was just wonderful. Absolutely, one ten out of ten.
Speaker 1: They arrive on Mapuzo, which is an out of the
Speaker 1: way mining system, kind of like the industrial heartland of
Speaker 1: the Galactic Empire. They follow Haydra's coordinates to the meeting
Speaker 1: point to find their contact, and they set out walking
Speaker 1: in that direction. Ben is growing more and more concerned
Speaker 1: with Leah's trusting nature, her instinct to see the world
Speaker 1: is like inherently good, and he snaps at her a
Speaker 1: little bit. It's like, everything is not good, Leah, everything
Speaker 1: around us is not safe and good. He had just
Speaker 1: I should add, seen a vision of Anakin standing on
Speaker 1: a hillside right before this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, our first glimpse of Hayden and possibly why they
Speaker 3: recost Hayden and why how are we going to sign?
Speaker 3: We will more to the four.
Speaker 1: We will talk about this and talk about that exact
Speaker 1: thing more. Meanwhile, Reva arrives at Fortress Inquisitorious as our
Speaker 1: first live action look at the home base of the Inquisitors.
Speaker 1: We first saw it in a Jedi phone in order.
Speaker 1: She's called in for a meeting with fifth brother and
Speaker 1: fourth sister probably I don't think they've identified her yet,
Speaker 1: but fourth sister, and she's like, hey, so Obi got
Speaker 1: on a cargo transport to some mining system somewhere and
Speaker 1: we should do something about it. And Fifth Broen is like, listen,
Speaker 1: I know what's going on. You want to be the
Speaker 1: Great Inquisitor, but guess what, I'm next in the line
Speaker 1: to be Grand Inquisitor, So watch yourself. And he uses
Speaker 1: the force to kind of like make her bow reva,
Speaker 1: then flexes on everybody by saying, oh, yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: just got off the phone the FaceTime with you know,
Speaker 1: my friend Darthy Vades. You might know him as Darth Vader.
Speaker 1: I call him. I call him Darthy. We're close. We
Speaker 1: text sometimes, and yeah, I just got off the phone
Speaker 1: with him, and I don't know. He told me that
Speaker 1: I am to lead the hunt for Obi Wan Kenobi.
Speaker 1: So when I say launched the probe to the mining
Speaker 1: systems to be a launching, you better fucking do it,
Speaker 1: because Darth Vader told me, Now, launch the fucking probes
Speaker 1: probes go launching. Ben and Lea on Mapuzo agree on
Speaker 1: a cover story if they're asked, they are visitors from
Speaker 1: Tall and Leah's name is Luma. But also Ben is like,
Speaker 1: don't talk, just don't talk at all. You talk a lot,
Speaker 1: you have a propensity to get involved in conversations with people,
Speaker 1: and just don't, please, don't do it. They arrive at
Speaker 1: the coordinates for the meeting and no one's there, nothing,
Speaker 1: nobody what to do next. Leah's like, I know, I
Speaker 1: see a truck. I'm gonna flag him down. Ben is like,
Speaker 1: is that a good idea? But Lea is already doing it,
Speaker 1: flags down the driver. His name is Frek, and Frek
Speaker 1: is a big, big fan of the Empire. He loves
Speaker 1: the Empire. He thinks it's great.
Speaker 3: He's like, what's wrong with some more dark? What's your Dutch?
Speaker 1: You with a doll up of order in the universe?
Speaker 4: Didn't we need that?
Speaker 1: I think we needed it, and I think the universe
Speaker 1: is better for it. Good imperial people. I love it.
Speaker 3: He's loving it. He's also like hilariously friendly, like he's
Speaker 3: just like a really chill guy on the road.
Speaker 1: A squad of Stormtroopers Hale's freck to catch a ride.
Speaker 1: They know him well, you know, they know him as
Speaker 1: a lover of the Empire. The Troopers, it turns out
Speaker 1: there on the lookout for Jedi. Uh, they're just happens
Speaker 1: to be a guy riding in the truck with him,
Speaker 1: just exactly.
Speaker 3: But you know what, they don't even worry about it.
Speaker 3: They don't worry about terrible at finding Jedi.
Speaker 1: They are very very bad at it.
Speaker 3: Obi they they are tired. I have to say, this
Speaker 3: is like another thing I think this era of Star Wars,
Speaker 3: even from like the new trilogy, has done really well,
Speaker 3: is like building in a little bit more humanity. Yes,
Speaker 3: for whoever's in the Stormtrooper suits. And these Stormtroopers are battered,
Speaker 3: they're dirty, tired, they have to get a freck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't even get they can't even give They
Speaker 1: don't have a vehicle for them, no speeders, just walking around.
Speaker 3: It was. It was hilarious yet absolutely believable in the
Speaker 3: context of what we see that they kind of just
Speaker 3: even when what happens next happens, you believe it, yes,
Speaker 3: which is impressive.
Speaker 1: So they the other they questioned Ben a little bit
Speaker 1: where you're from. What's going on? He's like, I'm from Tall.
Speaker 1: We're here because her u is my daughter Luma, her
Speaker 1: mom's people are from here, and so we were just visiting.
Speaker 1: And then Obi fucks up and uses Lea's real name,
Speaker 1: but then covers it up by saying, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: her mother again just passed and that was her name
Speaker 1: and things have been really, really, really tough since then.
Speaker 1: But in this conversation, Leah again the fourth sensitive person
Speaker 1: who just instinctively can empathize, as you said, Rosie, with
Speaker 1: people and feel things. She knows that Ben knew her
Speaker 1: real mother her and she can tell that he's been
Speaker 1: hiding something probably related to that, but whatever it is,
Speaker 1: it's certainly painful. The troopers get off the truck and
Speaker 1: Leah asks, men, are you my real dad? Like is
Speaker 1: that what's going on here? It is a really sad moment.
Speaker 3: By the way, and he's like the saddest thing is
Speaker 3: He's like, I wish and I'm like, so does everyone
Speaker 3: else who watches wish that you were the more age
Speaker 3: appropriate pairing for Padme. They did such a good job
Speaker 3: in that moment, and again you and kills it like
Speaker 3: the chemistry between them is perfect, and it's another bit
Speaker 3: of that great storytelling where you can just the reason
Speaker 3: Leah knows is because like when he is looking at
Speaker 3: her and saying the stuff we miss her mother. You
Speaker 3: know it's true. It's just about padme, you know. And
Speaker 3: when he's like, yeah, like I wish I could say
Speaker 3: I was or whatever I was, just like wow, that
Speaker 3: is like so real, and then we get like a
Speaker 3: we get like a huge obi Wan moment as well
Speaker 3: well to.
Speaker 1: Hearing so Ben is like listen, I uh. He doesn't
Speaker 1: tell her, of course, who a real dad is.
Speaker 3: And he like derails it with his own emotional He is.
Speaker 1: Like, hey, but you know, listen, I know what it's
Speaker 1: like to wonder who your real parents are. The JEDID
Speaker 1: came from me when I was very young. I still
Speaker 1: have snippets of memories of you know, my mom and
Speaker 1: my dad and my brother. Wait what what.
Speaker 3: This is? Like? I absolutely love these shows. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: sure that they're just doing what the Marvel shows do,
Speaker 3: where they just like throw in some like canon that
Speaker 3: if it was legit would be absolutely explosive. So kind
Speaker 3: of like the notion of obi Wan's brother is like
Speaker 3: a huge controversial fandom drama, and it goes back to
Speaker 3: the A Return of the Jedi novelization by James Kahan,
Speaker 3: where it is claimed that Obi Wan is the brother
Speaker 3: of Owen Lars Luke Skywalker with brew. Now, that essentially
Speaker 3: stayed in the Expanded Universe canon. It was referenced multiple times,
Speaker 3: it was built on it. Sometimes. I think he was
Speaker 3: references like he was his stepbrother. Maybe, But what basically
Speaker 3: that stayed in that Expanded Universe canon as a truth
Speaker 3: until Attack of the Clones Because in Attack of the
Speaker 3: Clones we see Smi, who is Anakin's mom, who is
Speaker 3: left by Qui gon Jin. She the guy she marries
Speaker 3: the guy who bought her, and then that makes Anakin
Speaker 3: and Owen Lar's step brothers in the current Star Wars canon.
Speaker 3: But saying Obi Wan Kenobi remembers having a baby brother
Speaker 3: is gonna make fans go, oh my god. Yeah, especially
Speaker 3: with the sassy relationship that Ohen.
Speaker 1: It is clearly what they are hinting at.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they want you. I'm could it come to something?
Speaker 3: It could? I mean the notion of ober One from
Speaker 3: ob telling Anakin you were my brother. Anakin is like
Speaker 3: one of the most famous moments in Star Wars history.
Speaker 3: So I would be interested to see if they wanted
Speaker 3: to try and find a way around canon to to
Speaker 3: make something of that connection between the three of them
Speaker 3: and to make him more of a clinical family member
Speaker 3: of Luke and Lea. But that was such a huge
Speaker 3: moment that I was yelling because it's like, it's like
Speaker 3: they wanted to set the fandom on fire. I haven't
Speaker 3: even really been on the internet today, and I'm sure
Speaker 3: there's like five hundred articles about that because that was
Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, I texted you guys immediately.
Speaker 3: It was just like it is they did it.
Speaker 1: It was one of many kind of like huge drops
Speaker 1: in this very episode. The truck continues on its way,
Speaker 1: Frek stops at a checkpoint and he gets out, and
Speaker 1: he warns the troopers that are manning the checkpoint that, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to take a look at my passenger. Some
Speaker 1: weird about that guy.
Speaker 3: Oh shit.
Speaker 1: Ben pulls up his hood so that he can look specifically,
Speaker 1: very much more like a Jedi than he already did.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was the right move, and
Speaker 1: things go sideways extremely quickly, and the inquisitorious probe one
Speaker 1: of the probes that they sent out across galaxy shows
Speaker 1: up and scans Ben's face. He shoots it, but not
Speaker 1: before it can upload his information to the Imperial Cloud.
Speaker 1: There is a shootout. Ben takes out the stormtroopers, but
Speaker 1: unfortunately another squad of stormtroopers pull up and it looks
Speaker 1: like it is curtains for our friends Ben, Kenobi and
Speaker 1: the young Princess Leah. But then, of all people, the
Speaker 1: imperial officer who arrives with that squad of stormtroopers by
Speaker 1: the name of Tala saves Ben Lea. Turns out she
Speaker 1: is a double agent, so to speak. There's no real
Speaker 1: rebellion at this time, but she has been working to
Speaker 1: undercut the Empire in any way that she can. She
Speaker 1: takes them to a safe house, which is a stop
Speaker 1: on an escape route for Jedi on the run Imperial
Speaker 1: dissidents for sensitive children called the Path.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is a really cool The Path leads
Speaker 3: to a planet called Jabim, and Jabim is like an
Speaker 3: old Legends stalwart planet that was always getting mentioned in
Speaker 3: comics and books, and there was battles on Jibim. It's
Speaker 3: a relevant place. If you've read the legend stuff, you
Speaker 3: probably recognize it, And I think that's just another really
Speaker 3: cool way that these shows are kind of building in
Speaker 3: that expanded universe world. And of course the canon animation
Speaker 3: stuff that we're seeing like play such a huge part.
Speaker 1: The inquisitors now know where Ben is. Fifth brother says, hey, Riva,
Speaker 1: don't don't bother informing Vader. I already told him. I
Speaker 1: got his number.
Speaker 3: I called him and I told him, and guess what,
Speaker 3: he was really excited about it. So just hollow calling
Speaker 3: Vader like Vada's lonely. He's just sitting in the house
Speaker 3: like he's he's got his like he's got his DMS open.
Speaker 3: He's like, please, anyone, anyone, like tell me what's going
Speaker 3: on with Obi. I need to know.
Speaker 1: So the Empire is now heading towards Mapuzo in force.
Speaker 1: Lea is now start after seeing all this violence up close,
Speaker 1: people dying, that stormtroom is gonna cut in half, she
Speaker 1: and seeing this escape route by people who are on
Speaker 1: the run from the Empire. She now is beginning to
Speaker 1: understand how dangerous things are all around her, and she
Speaker 1: is like, man, I wish I shouldn't have snuck away.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done that. That was really I see
Speaker 1: how silly that was and how childlike that was in
Speaker 1: this extremely grown up, in adult and merciless situation, bends
Speaker 1: like that's it wasn't your fault. You're a child. You
Speaker 1: should not have been thinking like that. Inside the safe house,
Speaker 1: our friends meet ned Be, a loder droid who quote
Speaker 1: isn't allowed to communicate, leading us all to expect that
Speaker 1: ned B will communicate at some point, right ned B
Speaker 1: will There is something to come with Nedb. Tala tells
Speaker 1: our friends that the Empire is hunting for sensitive kids
Speaker 1: for reasons unknown. We know the reason, at least in part,
Speaker 1: is to torture them and turn them into inquisitors, turn
Speaker 1: them into the hounds of the Empire. Should add that
Speaker 1: as part of the Jocostan new arc in the Darth
Speaker 1: Vader comic, the reason that Palbatine wants Jakostun who captured
Speaker 1: and wants her not to be killed. He tells Darth Vader,
Speaker 1: He's like, you got to make sure that nothing happens
Speaker 1: here before you take your prisoner. Is that she has
Speaker 1: in her possession a list of all the sensitive for
Speaker 1: sensitive kids throughout the galaxy. So there's not the first
Speaker 1: time that such a list has come up. It comes
Speaker 1: up in rebels too, but Darth then gets a hold
Speaker 1: of the list but then destroys it. One of those
Speaker 1: moments where Darth does something good for reasons that are unclear.
Speaker 1: I think the reason that you're meant to think about
Speaker 1: it in that moment is Darth doesn't want any competition.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want any kids. He doesn't want Palpatine raising
Speaker 1: up any junior Darth Vaders to come and take his place.
Speaker 1: He wants that position all to himself. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: that's a large part of it. But there's also the
Speaker 1: part of it of no more, no more killing in
Speaker 1: my name. That's we are meant to at least hope
Speaker 1: that that is part of it. So we understand the
Speaker 1: Empire has been hunting for sensitive kids continue to do so.
Speaker 1: In a secret room at the head of a hidden passage,
Speaker 1: there is all this graffiti of the people that have
Speaker 1: come through here and that continue to use this place,
Speaker 1: and one of the names then recognizes it's Quinlan Voss.
Speaker 1: Quinlan Voss, who who we know from the Clone Wars
Speaker 1: and other places, is kind of like a Jedi, much
Speaker 1: like Qui gon Jin was like a Jedi who didn't
Speaker 1: adhere strictly to the Jedi dog, addressed in a different way,
Speaker 1: acting in a different way, was really his own type
Speaker 1: of person. Really interesting that Quinlan. There's been other hints
Speaker 1: elsewhere that Quinlan survived again. In the Darth Vader comic,
Speaker 1: Farren Barr mentions that it's rumored that Quinland survived. I
Speaker 1: think there's a mention of rebels that maybe he survived.
Speaker 1: But this is perhaps our first hard confirmation that Quinlan
Speaker 1: Voss is out here. And Tala says, yeah, Quinland's actively
Speaker 1: helping us. He's been helping shepherd kids through this path.
Speaker 1: And there's another bit of Jedi graffiti here that reads,
Speaker 1: only when the eyes are closed can you truly see?
Speaker 1: And this seems to resonate with Obi Wan in that moment.
Speaker 1: And as they are about to head off down the
Speaker 1: tunnel to the spaceport to leave, they hear something outside
Speaker 1: a commotion. Stormtroopers are arriving to search Tala's workshop, but
Speaker 1: they don't find a secret room or the tunnel. Leah
Speaker 1: watches Tala with fascination as she's like gearing up to
Speaker 1: take them to the spaceport. She's putting on her holster
Speaker 1: putting in her blaster. And it is clear in this moment,
Speaker 1: this wonderful bit of foreshadow, we're getting so much foreshadowing
Speaker 1: with young Leyah that Tala says something like, I put
Speaker 1: the holster on the other side and the opposite side
Speaker 1: of most people do, so I can draw quicker. And
Speaker 1: clearly Leah is inspired by the courage, the fierce dedication
Speaker 1: of this woman in this nascent rebellion. It's so early
Speaker 1: on that we don't even have a word for what
Speaker 1: this movement is. There is no even word for rebellion.
Speaker 1: She's just acting, you know, as like an independent person
Speaker 1: with other like minded people to try and undercut the
Speaker 1: empire in any way that she can. And it's clear
Speaker 1: that that Leah is inspired by this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And in a really cool moment, she's like, can
Speaker 3: you teach me how to shoot? Yeah, She's like she's
Speaker 3: like trying. She's like and I think Teala's like, wow,
Speaker 3: one day she's gonna be a fight, you know it.
Speaker 3: It's like you can see Lair in the future with
Speaker 3: that loss that like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really great because like, listen of the courage
Speaker 1: here is Leya's courage reads as childlike naivete. But all
Speaker 1: of that is a through line. I was again going
Speaker 1: back to Rogue one and watching it. It's wild that
Speaker 1: Princess Leah went to the Battle of Scariff, which like
Speaker 1: not this was, you know, the Battle of Scaiff happened
Speaker 1: because Jinner so and uh and the rest just we're like,
Speaker 1: we have to do this. The rest of the rebellion
Speaker 1: is too scared to do it, and they went and
Speaker 1: that inspired others to go, you know, to go do it.
Speaker 1: And the fact that Princess Lea was one of those
Speaker 1: people who's just like, I'm gonna put myself directly in
Speaker 1: danger in this major battle that is not even really
Speaker 1: sanctioned by like all of the rebellion says a lot
Speaker 1: about Princess Lair and her willingness to put herself directly
Speaker 1: into harm's way, something that we see early on just
Speaker 1: by who she is, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's so well established here as well, because
Speaker 3: like this is only like nine years away from a
Speaker 3: New Hope. Yeah, you know, Laya is a teenager in
Speaker 3: a New Hope. So in Rogue it's like she is
Speaker 3: still that young woman and it and it feels so
Speaker 3: true to her to see her as a kid being
Speaker 3: that brave, you can understand how she becomes that leader.
Speaker 1: Tala says to Ben, I can't believe that the great
Speaker 1: Obi wan Kenobe would be like she would be scared
Speaker 1: of anything, and Ben again recoils from that name, insists
Speaker 1: on being called Ben, and they start to go down
Speaker 1: the tunnel to escape, but as soon as they do that,
Speaker 1: Ben feels a malign evil presence. Darth Vader is here
Speaker 1: and you hear screams outside, so they go to peek
Speaker 1: outside to see what's happening, and what is happening is
Speaker 1: an absolute horror show. Vader is killing anyone who is
Speaker 1: around in order to rule out his old master, hoping
Speaker 1: that he will. You know, that's what we expect from
Speaker 1: a Jedi, right Seeing this Jedi would ignite their lightsaber
Speaker 1: go out there. Ben instead says, listen you Tala, take Lea,
Speaker 1: get out of here, and he goes out, but he
Speaker 1: doesn't go to face Darth Vader. He just runs runs away.
Speaker 1: In a quarry somewhere near the town, he comes face
Speaker 1: to face with Darth Vader, and but again he's reluctant
Speaker 1: to face him in battle, and Ben fleees, but he
Speaker 1: can't he can't go far enough. He knows that he
Speaker 1: can't escape Darth Vader. So he knites his lightsaber very reluctantly,
Speaker 1: and he comes face to face with Darth and he says,
Speaker 1: in terrified like, what have you become? And Darth says, heartbreakingly,
Speaker 1: but really really evinly, I am what you made me.
Speaker 1: Darth says, it's like.
Speaker 3: It's so true and so sad. When he said that,
Speaker 3: I was just like, it's there is writing in this show.
Speaker 3: That's like, it's so simple, but it's just that in
Speaker 3: that you know six words. That is every guilt and
Speaker 3: fear and sadness that Obi Wan has because he knows
Speaker 3: it's true. Yeah, that is the that is the true failed.
Speaker 1: Jed I failed. Jet I failed their ability to do
Speaker 1: their their job to bring order the galaxy and fight
Speaker 1: the Scythe and keep them at bay. They failed at
Speaker 1: it in the most tragic way. They failed this young uh,
Speaker 1: this young for sensitive padawan who became a Jedi, who
Speaker 1: became a Sith Lord. They failed to help him aslong
Speaker 1: as way. And now not only that, but Ben failed
Speaker 1: in the moment when he needed to have steel in
Speaker 1: his heart and he needed to strike anak and down.
Speaker 1: He didn't do it, and now he is faced with
Speaker 1: the consequences Darth Vader, who has been mass murdering across
Speaker 1: the fucking galaxy. It's also like one of the fascinating
Speaker 1: things that I think about all the time with with
Speaker 1: Star Wars is it's also it's also a little bit
Speaker 1: of projection, like Anak, and Darth takes some responsibility for
Speaker 1: what you did. I understand that, yes, you were working,
Speaker 1: you were under the influence of Palpatine, an incredibly powerful
Speaker 1: Sith lord that nobody knew was around, and you were
Speaker 1: seduced by him and brought into the dark side, and yes,
Speaker 1: that happened, and the Jedi failed, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. But
Speaker 1: also you struck down kids, children in multiple at the
Speaker 1: Jedi temple, and you need to own that. And eventually
Speaker 1: he gets there, But in this moment, he it's somebody
Speaker 1: else's problem. It's somebody else's fault. He didn't. This is
Speaker 1: your fault for making me what I am. And that's
Speaker 1: true on some level, but also not true on another level. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the Inquisitors and the Special Stormtroopers they're searching town, Reava
Speaker 1: breaks away from them heads into Tala's workshop, where she
Speaker 1: finds the secret room, finds the tunnel, sees the sign
Speaker 1: of the Jedi carved into a wall, and something awakens
Speaker 1: in her. She becomes enraged, some emotiontional hit happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's clear there is some connection with the Jedi, something
Speaker 1: about them that drives her.
Speaker 3: I definitely feel like that, you know, only with your
Speaker 3: eyes closed can you truly see? That sounds like something
Speaker 3: that telling jedis when you put in on the helmet
Speaker 3: and you can't see and you'll and I feel like
Speaker 3: there's something about seeing that sign and seeing these words
Speaker 3: that were probably told to her when she was training
Speaker 3: as a youngling. It is like a pharh rage that
Speaker 3: she is just overcome with. And it is obviously triggered
Speaker 3: by a trauma response to the Jedi.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And there's also you know, part of the Sith
Speaker 1: seduction to the dark Side is your eyes have been closed.
Speaker 1: The Jedi have been lying. They want you to keep your
Speaker 1: eyes closed and not see the true nature of the force.
Speaker 1: So here is this Jedi saying, you know a bit
Speaker 1: of Jedi wisdom that directly not only it hits her
Speaker 1: on an emotional level, but triggers that torture that she's
Speaker 1: gone through, that philosophy that's ingrained in her, that the
Speaker 1: jed I've been lying to you, they've been keeping the truth.
Speaker 1: Further on, Tala at Leiah's urging some bit of force
Speaker 1: persuasion here, maybe.
Speaker 3: Right, she does seem like she just tells how to
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: Tells her go back, go back and help obi Wan.
Speaker 1: She's just like, yeah, go ahead, go and Tala just
Speaker 1: heads back to face the most dangerous man, the most
Speaker 1: mass murdering man in the galaxy. And again, this is
Speaker 1: one of those moments where I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: there are these hints that Leah is this very powerful
Speaker 1: force sensitive and there it is. She just tells somebody
Speaker 1: to do something and they go and do it. Of course,
Speaker 1: Tala has that will to resist in her, but she
Speaker 1: she goes. Darth can feel in the midst of this
Speaker 1: duel how weak Ben has become with the four and
Speaker 1: he's almost disgusted by the toys with his former master.
Speaker 1: Rather than strike him down immediately, he instead sets him
Speaker 1: on fire. He sets a fire on the ground and
Speaker 1: then holding obi Wan above it, slams him down with
Speaker 1: the force into the fire and then drags him across
Speaker 1: and it's brutal and but before Darth can take obi
Speaker 1: Wan prisoner to further torturem is very clear he doesn't.
Speaker 3: Yeh because he said he was like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: Key's like, your pain is not over yet, no him, Yes,
Speaker 3: you're going in back to time.
Speaker 1: We are going to extend this pain. You were going
Speaker 1: to continue to feel it. But before that can happen,
Speaker 1: Tala and herdroid Ned come to the rescue. They manage
Speaker 1: to spirit Ben away. They blow up a tank of
Speaker 1: some kind of explosive crystals, and now Darth Vader and
Speaker 1: obi Wan are separated by this fire, much like they
Speaker 1: were on Mustafar, separated by fire. Yet again they managed
Speaker 1: to spirit Bent away. Darth is foiled. He there's the
Speaker 1: classic Darth Vader staring at the thing that he now
Speaker 1: cannot have and then turning away and discussed foiled again,
Speaker 1: but not for the last time, surely in our story.
Speaker 1: Tala then tells Ned get the transport ready, we're taking Ben.
Speaker 1: We got to get Ben to Jabeim. Leah continues down
Speaker 1: the tunnel where she's to meet her contact that will
Speaker 1: take her to Jabim, but instead she finds Riva, who says,
Speaker 1: I'll take you from here.
Speaker 3: Bum boom boom. Yeah. They do such a good job
Speaker 3: as well, because like Leah's like, are you my contact?
Speaker 3: And she says, no, they couldn't make it. I'll take
Speaker 3: it from here. And there's a moment where Leah believes that,
Speaker 3: and then Leah looks to the viewer and sees the
Speaker 3: dead bodies of the contact and then just tries to
Speaker 3: breathe truly a.
Speaker 1: Man. What a boa stunning episode, stunning, stunning, so action
Speaker 1: from end to end. Some questions remain, which we will
Speaker 1: continue to think about. I think that it's almost a
Speaker 1: foresure thing that at some point ben Kenobi will accept
Speaker 1: his name obi Wan Kenobi in some moment of triumph, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that a precursor to that will must
Speaker 1: be his successfully contacting his old master Uh, who he
Speaker 1: failed to contact at the beginning of this episode. Qui
Speaker 1: gon jin, he will, he will? We will see Liam
Speaker 1: Neeson in force ghost form, right. I feel like that
Speaker 1: has to happen.
Speaker 3: That's definitely gonna happen. And I think a big journey
Speaker 3: that Obi Wan is gonna go on in this episode
Speaker 3: and way halfway through the season now, But I definitely
Speaker 3: do think that he is gonna go on that journey
Speaker 3: to reconnect with the Force, and I think that it
Speaker 3: will probably be some connected to Anakin slash Vader, Like
Speaker 3: I also wonder if Vader will like mockingly use his
Speaker 3: name or mockingly call him Ben and he'll sort of
Speaker 3: reclaim Obi Wan. But I'm yeah, I'm very interested definite
Speaker 3: Force ghosts Qui gone, which is gonna be like they'll
Speaker 3: have to do some narrative shifting to kind of and
Speaker 3: some playing with some stuff to make that possible. But
Speaker 3: I definitely think that's where we're headed, especially because right
Speaker 3: now we know his connection to the forces weak, and
Speaker 3: we're gonna need a really visible way to see that
Speaker 3: it's growing stronger. And I think it's going to be
Speaker 3: by connecting. Yeah, it's to that to his master.
Speaker 1: It is so tragic to see him this disconnected from
Speaker 1: the this you know, running from his former student. This
Speaker 1: is the guy who went toe to toe with Count Dooku,
Speaker 1: went toe to toe with Grievers, General Grievers. Yeah, toe
Speaker 1: to toe time and time and time and time again
Speaker 1: with Darth Maul, and now here he is unsure if
Speaker 1: he can hold his own with Darth Vader. It's really
Speaker 1: really tragic, but you feel like we've got to see
Speaker 1: him at the end of this. Obi Wan will be
Speaker 1: obi Wan again. You mentioned Hayden Christensen Darth Vader. It
Speaker 1: feels like, listen, you don't cast Hayden Christiensen just to
Speaker 1: put him in the Darth Vader armor where we never
Speaker 1: see his face except like in the back to tank,
Speaker 1: you know, behind back to bubbles, without even hearing his
Speaker 1: real voice. James or Jones again sounding stronger than ever
Speaker 1: doing the voice of Darth Vader, which leads me to wonder,
Speaker 1: does the helmet come off? Does it get damaged? Does
Speaker 1: he take it off? Does Obi Wan knock it off?
Speaker 1: Does it come off in the midst of some kind
Speaker 1: of fight, or do we get a flashback some kind
Speaker 1: of scene of Darth in his own mind connecting with
Speaker 1: the force and meditating in that way we saw. There's
Speaker 1: wonderful panels in the Darth Vader comic of Darth meditating,
Speaker 1: and you see him on some kind of force realm
Speaker 1: force plane, surrounded by fire and red angry energy, but
Speaker 1: also these little blue force butterflies, which we are meant
Speaker 1: to interpret as like the little kind of tricks of
Speaker 1: the light shining through in the darkness. I wonder if
Speaker 1: what we see to allow us to understand why.
Speaker 3: I think we get versions of both. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: that there's almost certainly going to be some kind of
Speaker 3: human connection between the two without the mosque. I think
Speaker 3: that's likely. But I also think that some kind of
Speaker 3: force plane we talked about well beyond wild Yes, I
Speaker 3: think that there is this bigger notion of what the
Speaker 3: force can do and how it can connect us. We
Speaker 3: saw it with Ray and Kylo when they were force
Speaker 3: like facetiming each other and being in the same space.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a version of
Speaker 3: that where Anakin is Anakin is Hayden and you and McGregor,
Speaker 3: and that is where they connect and where they speak
Speaker 3: to each other, some kind of meditative force plane where
Speaker 3: they both still see him in that way, which would
Speaker 3: make sense also flashbacks, but I do think that because
Speaker 3: of the nature of the prequels and them existing and
Speaker 3: then being so key, I don't know how much literal
Speaker 3: flashbacks will get. But I definitely think that it's not
Speaker 3: just going to be Hayden standing for a moment as
Speaker 3: in his cloak, you know, like we saw in this episode,
Speaker 3: I think there's definitely going to be more to his role,
Speaker 3: and I'm really excited to see where they go with
Speaker 3: it because they're definitely leaning into the emotion of this
Speaker 3: story that kind of means so much to fans and
Speaker 3: also is so key to kind of why people love
Speaker 3: you and so much is obi Wan.
Speaker 1: Reva, We got to find out what her deal is
Speaker 1: with obi Wan, what her connection to Darth Vader, whatever
Speaker 1: that is, what you know, what kind of special relationship
Speaker 1: she has with Vader, seemingly has with Vader, what the
Speaker 1: nature of that is. But also it feels like, listen,
Speaker 1: what is one of the core themes devices of Star
Speaker 1: Wars is someone in the dark being pulled back to
Speaker 1: the light, and Darth Vader tells her, listen, you can
Speaker 1: be the Grand Inquisitor if you succeed, but if you fail,
Speaker 1: guess what. And it feels like Reva is at the
Speaker 1: end of all of this, we know that the Grand
Speaker 1: Inquisitor spoilers still alive because he exists in canon going
Speaker 1: forward and he's still in that position. So it feels
Speaker 1: like Reva doesn't get the job. I e she fails,
Speaker 1: meaning at some crucial moment, does Reava turn away from
Speaker 1: the dark Side do something good finally and is struck
Speaker 1: down by Darth Vader or someone dies in that turn
Speaker 1: to the light It feels like I think that will happen.
Speaker 1: It feels like we got to see that.
Speaker 3: I think that's really likely. My hope would be that
Speaker 3: she gets to live on in some kind of Obi
Speaker 3: Wan esque self imposed exile rather than dying. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: like the but she does that good thing and it
Speaker 3: pits her against Anakin, and it seems quite likely that
Speaker 3: she may die. But I think that they're trying to
Speaker 3: recontextualize how they kind of play into those tropes. So
Speaker 3: I hope we could see something else. But I definitely
Speaker 3: think a turn to the light side is likely, especially because,
Speaker 3: like you said, the Inquisitors are not Sith, they are
Speaker 3: Dark Side users. Yeah they are, And that is long
Speaker 3: in a controversial space in the in the Star Wars
Speaker 3: cannon of this like someone who can use both sides
Speaker 3: of the force, and and what does it mean to
Speaker 3: do that? And I think it'll be really interesting to see.
Speaker 3: I think that the Blue Butterflies is a great nod
Speaker 3: of of of this importance of the light side that's
Speaker 3: still able to be there. I think Disney actually did
Speaker 3: like a kid's cartoon that had Kylo Ren and he
Speaker 3: was playing with blue butterflies when he was a baby,
Speaker 3: and there was a lot of talk about like what
Speaker 3: did that mean and what did the blue butterflies mean
Speaker 3: for somebody who's going to turn from the dark side
Speaker 3: and eventually turn back to the light. So I think
Speaker 3: that's a really great I wouldn't be surprised to see
Speaker 3: a few fluttering by. But yeah, I'm really interested to
Speaker 3: see where Reaver's journey goes because it feels like it
Speaker 3: feels like her anger towards the Jedi is likely very justified.
Speaker 1: I think that Jedi fucked up in a million different ways.
Speaker 3: Nature of the Jedi is key to the so even
Speaker 3: Obi Wan talks about it for the first time, we
Speaker 3: really hear someone say, you know, I was taken away
Speaker 3: from my family as a child, and I was raised
Speaker 3: by the Jedi and they became my family. But that's
Speaker 3: still not a great way to run a society or
Speaker 3: like a strange elite force. So I'm really interested to
Speaker 3: see where Reava's story goes, and also Reavas seems to
Speaker 3: me like a character who's ripe for like a comic
Speaker 3: book and a book and all kinds of things exploring
Speaker 3: their story. More so, I'm excited to see how that
Speaker 3: gets expanded out in Canada.
Speaker 1: And then finally, you know, we're in this age of
Speaker 1: bringing in these get characters from the extended Star Wars
Speaker 1: universe into the live action space. We saw Black Chrysantin
Speaker 1: of Course and Book of Boba Fett and Black Croysantin
Speaker 1: of course is known to work closely with doctor Afra,
Speaker 1: the kind of independent and fears and trash talking archaeologist
Speaker 1: who's kind of an im moral gray Ara, but a
Speaker 1: really fun and independent character. I think all of us
Speaker 1: are expecting at some point in time, and we're expecting
Speaker 1: in Bookovet that maybe doctor Affra would show up. And
Speaker 1: I think other people have said this, but we're waiting
Speaker 1: for Maya Erskin from Pen fifteen fame to show up
Speaker 1: in this story. And it feels like if you wanted
Speaker 1: to cast doctor Afra, you could do a lot worse
Speaker 1: than my Erskin.
Speaker 3: And the timeline is right.
Speaker 1: The timeline is right if that were to happen.
Speaker 3: And yeah, when you said this, I was just like,
Speaker 3: I need this to be the case because that costing
Speaker 3: would be so brilliant, and also it speaks to why
Speaker 3: you would have to have Hayden, yes, because if you
Speaker 3: have Afra, then you like have a relationship between her
Speaker 3: and Vader, an antagonistic alliance of survival that needs and
Speaker 3: that would be a very interesting use of Hayden. And
Speaker 3: it would also deal with one of the biggest issues
Speaker 3: with doing Afra in live action, which is she needs
Speaker 3: to be alongside Vader at some points. So if you
Speaker 3: do it now, if Hayden doesn't necessarily want to come
Speaker 3: back and be Vader again, you don't have to deal
Speaker 3: with that issue. You can just have Afra and you've
Speaker 3: already established that connection here. I love this casting. I
Speaker 3: am like crossing my fingers because he's very under the radar.
Speaker 3: You were like, I'm sure people have said this, and
Speaker 3: I googled it and maybe like two or three places
Speaker 3: and not like the usual the usual kind of suspects
Speaker 3: said maybe this was could be the case. So I
Speaker 3: am I am crossing my fingers because that PEM fifteen
Speaker 3: is so great and Maya is just like a fucking talent,
Speaker 3: and it would just be such good, cool, fun really funny.
Speaker 1: Really. For those of you not up in Doctor Afra, uh,
Speaker 1: check out some of the Doctor Afra comic books of
Speaker 1: the Marvel Star Wars comics. She's got her own title.
Speaker 1: And I'll just say that her relationship with Vader. We
Speaker 1: talked about these unlikely alliances that Vader strikes for reasons
Speaker 1: that are hard to unpack. Sometime they seem like purely
Speaker 1: ambitious to further he's evil, but they also seem to
Speaker 1: hint at something else, and the relationship they have, and
Speaker 1: Afra's courageousness and the way she deals with Vader is
Speaker 1: really unique, and man, it would be great if that was.
Speaker 3: That would be such an interesting counterpoint to the fear
Speaker 3: that everyone currently has to have that kind of fearlessness,
Speaker 3: and it would be an interesting reflection of Reva too,
Speaker 3: this kind of person who can ally themselves with Vada
Speaker 3: when they need to. Yeah, I am hoping that's like
Speaker 3: my biggest one. I mean, everything else about this show,
Speaker 3: like unless it's going to be some weird, deep cut
Speaker 3: thing that only I care about that already delivering, like
Speaker 3: the young Leya, the introspective obi Wan. So that's now
Speaker 3: my that's my pet theory I am. I'm manifesting Maya
Speaker 3: as is not that well.
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Speaker 3: Bye, Mike.
Speaker 6: Hey, Mike, this is Dolan Marine. I want to talk
Speaker 6: about the Inquisitors here today. Mike listen. I know the Inquisitors.
Speaker 6: They've run up an incredible score.
Speaker 3: Mike. Uh.
Speaker 1: They've been the.
Speaker 6: Winning team, part of a winning franchise for almost a
Speaker 6: decade by the time we meet them and Obi wan Kenobi. Mike,
Speaker 6: But I tell you, Mike, that's the regular season. Mike.
Speaker 6: Those are the no name Jet. No disrespect to them,
Speaker 6: but that's the no name Jedi the no name Padawan,
Speaker 6: the four sensitive kids, those are the easy ones to
Speaker 6: pick up, Mike. You know, the clones did most of
Speaker 6: the heavy lifting in the early days of Autum sixty six.
Speaker 6: Now we're in the you know, to use a sports metaphor, Mic,
Speaker 6: we're in the postseason.
Speaker 3: Now is the playoffs now.
Speaker 6: Mike, And this is the This is Canaan Jerris, this
Speaker 6: is cal Kests, this is Obi Wan Kenoby. And I
Speaker 6: gotta say, Mike that the inquisitors, they're not up to
Speaker 6: the task, Mike. And it's about that chemistry, Mic. They're
Speaker 6: they're arguing in amongst themselves, they're stab in each other.
Speaker 6: Their locker room is a mess. Coach Vader has been
Speaker 6: coaching from a far palper team. Put this team together,
Speaker 6: and I'm not sure he did it in the right way.
Speaker 6: Vader needs to come off the injured reserve and he
Speaker 6: needs to coach this team, Mike. And now he's doing it,
Speaker 6: and maybe we'll see something turn around. But I don't
Speaker 6: know if it's gonna happen. I'll take my answer off
Speaker 6: the air. Thank you, Mike.