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Speaker 1: This is a big, big, big Star Wars conversation coming

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Speaker 1: up next. Hello, my name is Jason Eoncepti, and welcome

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Speaker 1: the Crooked Media podcast where we dive deep into your

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it, folks. It's Star Wars celebration

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Speaker 1: How did we feel? Like, yes, Palpatine was right there,

431
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: and we missed it, all of us, Like Yoda missed it.

432
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: Yoda missed it.

433
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 1: Missed it, everybody missed it. Uh. Just an unbelievable, unbelievably

434
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: tragic time and it's and you can really feel it

435
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: with you And.

436
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I feel like that moment of having the

437
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 3: Clone troop of that is like such a great recognition

438
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: of the real cost of that war, Like it's not

439
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: just the Jedis who felt it, like it's the Clone truth.

440
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: Clones thrown away too. We don't even need them anymore.

441
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: You know, we're we're on store trooper time now, like

442
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: that you can get rid of these clones. We don't

443
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: need them.

444
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 3: It's like this, these veterans who have been abandoned by

445
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 3: the Empire, by the people who use them in this war.

446
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: Is there's so much texture and like these little nods

447
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: that that give this a real that they reill add

448
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: to that like tragic element of this period.

449
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: Obi is met by a kid named Jacob. It's kind

450
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: of like a street smart, young street urchin kid. He's like,

451
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: do you need a Jedi? I know a Jedi if

452
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: you're looking for you know, if you're you know, you

453
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: need something some kind of mission accomplished. Guess what I

454
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: know a Jedi. It was like, that sounds interesting. Yeah,

455
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: I'd like to meet a Jedi. It turns out this

456
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: Jedi named Haja es Tree is really just a con man.

457
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: He's doing good, helping, you know, people get off planet

458
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: when they really need to get off planet, but you

459
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: know he's doing it for money, and of course he

460
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: has no affinity with the Force. He just has some

461
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: decent sleight of hand skills and really powerful magnets. Obi

462
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: Wan exposes Haja forces him to help him find lea Later,

463
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: obi still somewhat tentatively in contact with the force, manages

464
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: to follow his feelings to a spice lab run by

465
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: some kind of organized crime group. He gets in there,

466
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: blows up some beakers for distraction, heads deeper into the building,

467
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: has a fight with a Datha Marian and a human,

468
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: and then he finds this room that he's looking for,

469
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 1: but of course it's a trap. Vek Knak cru and

470
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: his Henschees show up. They start beating the shit out

471
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: of Obi Wan, but then Obi Wan throws a flask

472
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: of spice on the ground and puts on a mask

473
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: so he doesn't get high off spice, and he escapes. Finally,

474
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: deeper in the complex, he finds Leah, and the young

475
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: princess is like, who the fuck are you?

476
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 6: Like?

477
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: Who are you? I don't know you at all?

478
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: You're to rescue me? You're one fucking guy. Where's the army?

479
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: Why is why is it? My My dad sends the

480
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: army in here, and it's a wonderful mirror of the

481
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: events of a New Hope with later on, you know,

482
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: Luke Skyworker will come to rescue and be like you you're

483
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: here to rescue me, and an equally interesting mirror of

484
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, here's here's here's ben Kenobi rescuing a skywalker,

485
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: but it's not the one you expect. It's Princess Leah.

486
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I know that a lot. Like some

487
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: people had been like, oh, isn't this like a plot

488
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: hole because like before, she just mentioned that she he

489
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: knew his dad her dad. But actually, if you think

490
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: about it, in that moment when Luke comes in and

491
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: he says ben Kenobi, she knows who that is. Yeah,

492
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: in a hope, she doesn't need it to be obi

493
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: Wan Kenobi, which is what she says on her little

494
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: you know, obi wan Kenobi, you're my only hope. I

495
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: think this actually feels very natural to that, and I

496
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: also it feels like it adds It's like it's additive,

497
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: you know, it feels like it adds something to the

498
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: original trilogy. And also I really think something they're seeding

499
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: really well here with that question that Leah asks, where

500
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: she says, you know, where's the army. They're seeding this

501
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: understanding that Leya is going to come to and it's happening. Yeah,

502
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: we have to fight. And also as well, why can't

503
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: my dad send an us Because she's starting to realize

504
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: that there's something about her lineage, her family that makes

505
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: her vulnerable. And it's very it's very interesting, and I

506
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: this fits so well with the new books and the

507
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: kind of cool canon they've built in about her as

508
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: a teenager and also a lot of expanded universe stuff

509
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: where she was like a great a great warrior and

510
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: a great leader as well. So it's yeah, it's just

511
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: so good. And I lot her and you and are

512
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: so good together. The chemistry is like exactly there, and

513
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: we get so many good moments in this episode. In

514
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: the next episode where Ben is just seeing Annie and

515
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 3: padme when he looks at her and it is just

516
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: fucking great. It will make you cry.

517
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: It gets you absolutely in the heart. The two slip

518
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: away in kind of disguise Obi again, still dressed like

519
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: a Jedi, because this fucking guy, it can't help it.

520
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: Reva finds a vet, of course, the people that she

521
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: hired to do this kidnapping job, and she finds them

522
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: absolutely diluted on spice and she realizes how Obie one

523
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: must be close. Obi and Layer are heading for a

524
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: spaceport across town. Meanwhile, the Grand Inquisitor and the fourth

525
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: Sister and the fifth brother are fucking pissed. Reva's obsession

526
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: with Kenobe is getting to be a problem. It's a

527
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: big mess here she is she ended into this fucking kidnapping.

528
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: The Empire doesn't need a diplomatic crisis with Aldron right now, Like,

529
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: why are you making waves at that level? You know,

530
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: like you shouldn't be doing that. Riva's like, listen in

531
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: what I found to be a very interesting dialogue. I

532
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: went in the archives. I found a link between Obie

533
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: and Arghana, and that's how I realized that the princess

534
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: would be the perfect bait to lure Obi Wan, one

535
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: of the most dangerous Jedi still alive. Now, they didn't

536
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: specify what archive, right, but when I hear archives, so

537
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: the Grand Inquisitor. Back in the Darth Vader comics, the

538
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen Darth Vader comics, not the twenty twenty, we

539
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: learned that the Grand Inquisitor his turn to the dark Side,

540
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: which was done in secret. Darth had no idea about it.

541
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: That Emperor did this like as his own pet project

542
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: and then revealed it to Darth and it's like, hey,

543
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: you can lead these guys the Grand Inquisitor the way

544
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: in to turning him. In addition to the torture, so

545
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 1: the kobe Is tortures, all the massive torture that they

546
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: all underwent, was that the Grand Inquisitor, you know, used

547
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: to be a Jedi padawan, and he was like mad

548
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: that the the lead archivist of the Jedi Archive, Jedi

549
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: librarian Jacosta Nu, wouldn't let him read the books he wanted.

550
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: He wanted all this knowledge, but of course that's not

551
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: meant for everybody, and DaCosta knew was like no, and

552
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: that was like kind of his way in. So when

553
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: he rose to be the Grand Inquisitor and they had

554
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: access to the Jedi Archive, like he would just spend

555
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: evenings in there reading everything that he wasn't supposed to

556
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: read and luxuriating in it. All of which, now later on,

557
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: this is getting off track a little bit, but I'm

558
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: just gonna later on to Costa Nu, in an absolutely

559
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: clutch move, would delete the entire Jedi Archive rather than

560
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: it fall into the hands of the Empire. This is

561
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: very very early on, and I wonder, you know, understanding

562
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: how the Grand Inquisitor feels about archive, the Jedi archive,

563
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: and probably knowledge in general. It's very interesting to me

564
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: that Reva would have access to stuff like this, where

565
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: should be able to find these clues and it and

566
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: I think we are certainly meant to wonder if this

567
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: is the Jedi archive.

568
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: Right absolutely, And also I think that what we're getting

569
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: into now, I mean, this was very heavily in Boba Fet.

570
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: It's been hinted at in the Mandalorian. It's definitely the

571
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: kind of space that we're in on DIO. This is

572
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: a cyberpunk era of Star Wars. If there were Jedi archives,

573
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: somebody hacked them and somebody has a copy. If there

574
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: were Jedi archives, the Grand Inquisitor may well have downloaded

575
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: the things he wanted from before. Then the question is

576
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 3: they're doing something really clever with Reva. One of the

577
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: biggest issues in a lot of Disney stuff, stylear stuff, whatever,

578
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: is like when they cost a person of color, they

579
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: make them a villain and they're like irredeemable and they

580
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 3: kill them, or they make them a good guy and

581
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 3: they kill them. But like with Reva, they're doing something

582
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: that they never really do, which is Reva has her

583
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: own reason for being after Obi Wan Kenobi and being

584
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: a mystery is really just a it's like a step

585
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: to getting Kenobi, rather than she doesn't really care about

586
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: the Empire. She doesn't bow down to the the Inquisitors,

587
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: she doesn't really play by their rules. She has this

588
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: secondary life. They talk about her being from the gutter,

589
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: you know, and she has these connections in the Diu Underwel.

590
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: Which I took and I'm sure you did, to mean

591
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: that she even more than the other inquisitors had gone

592
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: through the Jedi training process, maybe further than the others. Yes,

593
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: was taken later perhaps, but perhaps even was one of

594
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: these kids that survived sixty six. Yes, And and that

595
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: is why they look down on her so much, is

596
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: because she is more firmly connected with the Jedi.

597
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: And the Force, because they say to her that her

598
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 3: skills and her powers were what got her the standing.

599
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: And we see later in this episode she's like a

600
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: wirework queen like also she Interestingly, they're kind of mirroring

601
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: two aspects of They're mirroring an aspect that both she

602
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 3: and Lea seem to share, which is an almost telepathic

603
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 3: empathy where they can read situations. And that's a version

604
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 3: of the Force we haven't seen a lot, but has

605
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 3: been hinted at. And yeah, I definitely think the opening

606
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: of the first episode, which we talked about briefly, where

607
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 3: we saw the younglings being massacred, I think Reavers survived that,

608
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: and I think that is why she is upset with

609
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 3: Kenobi or has this deeper connection to Anakin that we

610
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: kind of see.

611
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: We will deal. We will delve more into those questions

612
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: quite soon. So the Great Inquisitor, Listen, they need to

613
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: work out their chemistry as a team. It's not working.

614
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: You could get like, like, it's not just this. I

615
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: understand that they probably caught other Jedi that many of

616
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: whom we don't know about. But when it comes to

617
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: crunch time, Calcastis Canaan Jarris, ezra Obi Wan godobis the

618
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: Jedi to new even like, yeah, there's like extenuating circumsances

619
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: of that one Farren Barr, who was like a corrupted Jedi.

620
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: Like they just they step on their own capes and

621
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: it's very tough, and I think a lot of it

622
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: is because they can't. They they don't work well as

623
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: a team, and we saw it here.

624
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 3: Also, we should say if you are not well fast

625
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: in this Yeah, the very interesting thing about the Inquisitors

626
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 3: that makes them so tragic and a great symptom of

627
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: this tragic time. They are Jedi who were tortured and

628
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: time did the dark Side and now hunt down Jedi.

629
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: So it is like a really brutal, awful thing. I

630
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: actually think can narratively explain why they're kind of bad

631
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: at their.

632
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 4: Jobs, and also because they did not choose, they're like

633
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 4: they were like tortured and corrupted, and that they find

634
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 4: it very hard and everyone's ambitions, which we see in

635
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 4: this episode and in the next episode.

636
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: They're very furious, the ambitions to be near Vader, to

637
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: be near the ultimate corrupted Jedi, and that kind of

638
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 3: seems to be driving everything. And it's really interesting because

639
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: I feel like, again, like you said, the bad at

640
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: their job is bad chemistry. This almost seems kind of

641
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: a bit of an answer to that, because we've all

642
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: been laughing for a long time, like how do these

643
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: Jedis survive or to sixty six? Did it work? And

644
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: I feel like in this show they're kind of trying

645
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: to build out a little bit more about the inquisitism

646
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: why it might not be working.

647
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: I think that In addition to that, you know they

648
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: aren't Siths very consciously get into them a second. But

649
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: the Sith philosophy is certainly what is animating them, and

650
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: the rule of two, which said that no two cyths

651
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: could ever exit more no more than two Sith lords

652
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: could ever be round at the same time because they

653
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: try and kill each other. It certainly holds like the

654
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: ambition that drives the Sith, the paranoia, the lust for power, etcetera,

655
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: does not necessarily lend itself to working as a team.

656
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: And then secondarily, Palpatine very consciously does not want them

657
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: brought up in the Sith tradition and consciously selected ex

658
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: patawans for sensitives who he thought would never be powerful

659
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: enough to ever challenge him or even come close to

660
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: challenging him. So he specifically picked people who were just

661
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: not that good with the force, which is why when

662
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: we see Reave of running around the rooftip, we realize, oh,

663
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: there's something different about her.

664
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

665
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: So anyway, the Grand Inquisitor takes Reeve off the case.

666
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: It's like you're off that you're out of here. He'd

667
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: caused so much trouble. I will bring in Kenobi myself Riva,

668
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: of course, is not going to take that. She is

669
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: not going to give up.

670
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: He can't take the credit.

671
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: She dabs in Kenobi the that's right, So she puts

672
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: Kenobe's name out on the street all throughout DAYU. Now

673
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: the whole planet of all these gangsters and criminals and

674
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: street urchins are all looking for Kenobi and this young princess,

675
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: Princess Leah is we learn in this sequence. She is curious,

676
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: she's independent, she is smart beyond her years, but dangerously

677
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: a little. She is so courageous that she's a little

678
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: naive about how dangerous things are all around her.

679
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: She does and she's been on older on her whole life,

680
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: so we're safe. Yeah, she's never been in a situation

681
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 3: like this, so she's very much like I'll just saw

682
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: it out and it's like, babe, your ten and your

683
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 3: legs are like two inches long, like it just take

684
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: us that can hang out with the Jedi.

685
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: As this criminal of all points bulletin goes out, it

686
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: is received by the kid Jacob and Hadja. They see

687
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: it and they decide, okay, we have to help. We're

688
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna help. Meanwhile, the Grand Inquisitor discovers that the whole

689
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: city now knows about Kenobi, and he's like, fucking and again,

690
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: I can't believe you. Obi and Leah understanding that the

691
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: city's hot right now, they hide out in an alley. Uh. Leyah,

692
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: through their little conversations here realizes hold on a second,

693
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: I was bait because they're looking for you. They're actually

694
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: looking for you. Why are they looking for you?

695
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: Who are you?

696
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: What is going on? And she makes a run for it,

697
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: and now Obi has to like fight all these various

698
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: street criminals in Dyu, all these bounty hunters while catching

699
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: up attempting to catch up with the slowest running yet

700
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: most elusive ten year old ever, which I should say,

701
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: like there's been a lot of joking about this. I

702
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: think that I think it's quite clear what they're trying

703
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: to suggest here through the various chase scenes that we've

704
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 1: seen with Leah young Leya, is that she is instinctively

705
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: using the force to make people miss like she doesn't

706
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: know she's doing it. They don't maybe know, they don't

707
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: maybe realize that it's happening. But I think those opening

708
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: scenes in the forests of all around, we're leading us

709
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: to that conclusion that she's using the force somehow without

710
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: knowing it.

711
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: In the first in the forest scene, you kind of

712
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 3: very evocative of what we've seen in Leia in the

713
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: original trilogy and the new stuff. So it was like

714
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: really emotional, but also there's this great like the best

715
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: because there's a lot that has been said about these

716
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: chase scenes. I'm a young layer Stan, so I'm just like,

717
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 3: go for it. Maybe you can make it. But like,

718
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: the one thing that I think they do, the one

719
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 3: scene they do really well in that moment is like

720
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: she slides away from them under a tree and it's

721
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: like really slick and they still manage to get her

722
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: because there's so many of them. But definitely in this scene,

723
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: especially with what we're about to learn about obi Wan,

724
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: I think that the notion is that the reason that

725
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: they can't catch her is they kind of it's it's

726
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: the it's the spell thing that we talked about.

727
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: There's only there's no way.

728
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: You always look the wrong way, you always something distracts you,

729
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 3: someone comes in your way, and for some reason, you're

730
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 3: an adult man or men and you just can't catch

731
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: that ten year old And it's the force that's the reasoning.

732
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: In this world, who parkours. It's Jedi and for sensitive people. Yeah,

733
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: Leah flees to a rooftop. Ben is in pursuit. Also,

734
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: the inquisitors have been reinforced by a battalion of stormtroopers,

735
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: and of course Reva is up on these rooftops, just

736
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: kind of peering around waiting for any kind of clue

737
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: that Obi Wan has poked his head up. They're up

738
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: on these rooftops. Ben is trading blaster shots with some

739
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: random bounty hunters. Meanwhile, he's trying to get Leah to

740
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: come to him, to come out of safety. She is

741
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: scared of him. She sees a gap between buildings. She's like,

742
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: I can jump to this other rooftop to safety. It

743
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: is way too far, but like again those perhaps those

744
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: Jedi instincts kicking in telling you you can maybe do this,

745
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: you know, she leaps, doesn't come anywhere close. Obie manages

746
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: to reconnect to the force and he in the last minute,

747
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: saves her life, saves her from falling to her death,

748
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: and gently deposits her on the ground. On the ground,

749
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: Hadja points them to a cargo port. Is like he

750
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: saves their life, which goes unremarked upon, and then he's like, hey, listen,

751
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: here's how you get out. You go to this cargo port.

752
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: It's fully automated. There's nobody actually there. It's all droids

753
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: and computers. You can go there and you can get out.

754
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: You head to Mapuzo. From there. Obie is like, I

755
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: don't trust you, but we you know, what choice do

756
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: I have. They head off to the cargoport. Haja intercepts

757
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: Reva and he tries to bluffer. He's like, hey, guess

758
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: why you're looking for Jedi. I'm a jedim here. Uh

759
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: And she's like, no, you're not. You're not a Jedi,

760
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: but you know something and I'm going to use the

761
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: force to pull it out of you. Meanwhile, Obie is

762
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: getting to know Layup. He tells her that you remind

763
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: me of someone, and that someone is not spelled out,

764
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: but certainly by the description is the Duchess Sateine, leader

765
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: of mandalor.

766
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 3: I think it's multi I think it's like multifaceted. I

767
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 3: see when he stops so, I think when he starts

768
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: saying it's how he's like, you're really stubborn, and I

769
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 3: think he reminds her of Anakin. And then I think

770
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 3: he's He's like, you don't let me tell you what

771
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: to do. And I think she reminds him of Padme

772
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: and and when he says she was a leader, I

773
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: think she reminds me. Love that, And I think it's this.

774
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: I think it's this kind of like he's constantly going

775
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 3: through these memories of these three people that he lost,

776
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: and she is kind of this. She reminds him of

777
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: what he was trying to save with Satine, and then

778
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 3: she is literally like he is looking in the face yes,

779
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: of these two people who he loved. So I love that.

780
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: And I had a friend, amazing Joe Alminique, who texted

781
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: me the exact same thing about Setine. I think it

782
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: is I think that's like, I think that's the third

783
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: key of the loss that he is going through, and

784
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: I think Laya is all of that for him.

785
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: Riva catches up with Obi and Leya at the cargo port.

786
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: Obi's like, Lea, go go without me, just go get

787
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: to the ship. I'll meet you there. Obi's connection, as

788
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: we mentioned, is with the forces very tentative. Riva is

789
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: kind of searching for Obi amongst all the cargo and

790
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: she's trash talking him and she mentions that Lord Vader

791
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: has been looking for him, and then it is in

792
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: this moment where Obi Wan realizes that Anakin Skywalker survived

793
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: being maimed on most of far laying laying by him

794
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: laying on a field of lava. His mission was to

795
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: stop Anakin Skywalker, to stop the threat of the Syth

796
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: to the galaxy, to kill him. Obie didn't do it.

797
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: He walked away. He didn't make sure. He thought maybe

798
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: the deal was finished and he couldn't bring himself to

799
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: actually finish him off. He walked away. And it's in

800
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: this moment almost you know, ten years after those events,

801
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: that he learns that Anakin Skywalker is alive and has

802
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: been looking for him. And it is an absolutely terrifying,

803
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: an incredible moment which leads us to wonder, So this

804
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: is something we've been talking a lot about and wondering

805
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: a lot about in our pre production meeting and our calls. Man.

806
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: Not a lot of people at this time know that

807
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader. It's like Obi Wan Kenobi,

808
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: who didn't even know that Anakin was still alive, right,

809
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: It's Yoda just found just found out knew it right now,

810
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: He knew that Anakin had been christened Lord Vader by Palpatine,

811
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: but he didn't know that he was still doing his

812
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: thing as Darth Vader. He didn't know that, didn't even

813
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: know that, yeah, it didn't apparently know that Darth Vader

814
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: was a person in the world Yoda who has been

815
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: out of it. Emperor Palpatine, of course, who turned him.

816
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: Jocosta Knu, the librarian of the Jedi Archive, who found

817
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: out because and this is like the first year of

818
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: Darth Vader's existence. Darth Vader goes into the Jedi Library

819
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: and the security droid there is like Anakin Skywalker. I

820
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: recognize you. You're not You're not cleared to come into

821
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: this area, and Jocosta overhears that, and much to her shock,

822
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: discovers that Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader. And that is terrifying.

823
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: Grandma of Tarkan or just mop Tarkan at this time,

824
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: who does not who does know? He figures that he

825
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: kind of salutes it out Phara enough.

826
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: It's like very early on, and he probably hasn't told anyone, right,

827
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: he probably hasn't hearned it totally.

828
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: And this is like and that's like five years into

829
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: the Empire. So a number of years before this and

830
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: after Jakastanu Farren Barr, who was the ruined Jedi who

831
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: was secretly advising the King of Mancala Lee Char and

832
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: was kind of manipulating was not even kind of was

833
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: manipulating the Mancalamari into direct conflict with the Empire, hoping

834
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: to spark the rebellion. But he knew because he had

835
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: seen the videotapes I think the security tapes from the

836
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: Jedi Temple. He knew that Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader.

837
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: He talks about it. This is in the Darth Vader

838
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: comic and he tells his acolytes all about it. So

839
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: his acolytes, I guess, would also.

840
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 3: Know, and.

841
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: Not that many others. We think Masamda must have known.

842
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: The Grand Visy was the Empire.

843
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: When it works out, but it's not confirmed that we

844
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: could find.

845
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: But the fact that Reeven knows and is just throwing

846
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: the name out there is very notable to me. And

847
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: as we're gonna talk about in part three, she seems

848
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: to have a special relationship with Yep with anagain Skywalker

849
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: Darth Vader. So did Anakin save her from the Master

850
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: did he take kind her his wing?

851
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: What? How does she know?

852
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: And how does she feel so comfortable just revealing this,

853
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: because that's a bit.

854
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 3: This is a big deal. I think that Anakin as

855
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 3: we know him, even in his Darth Vader form, especially

856
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: if you've read those Darth Vada comics, you know that

857
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 3: there is still an internal battle going on and he

858
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: has accepted the dark side, but he he feels guilt

859
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: and he does wonder about You can tell that he

860
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 3: wonders about what could have been like this different path

861
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: he could have gone on. And I I wonder if

862
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 3: he saved Reaver and potentially are the younglings because that

863
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 3: him killing those young Wings was the moment he turned

864
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: to the dark side, and that is kind of I

865
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 3: wonder if there is a level of reflection and guilt there.

866
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: And also this fits in very well to this comic

867
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 3: book version of Anakin slash Vader that we met. Who

868
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: can have these unexpected alliances with people like doctor Afrez,

869
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 3: like there are relationships that can be built there even

870
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 3: in this person that we thought was this cold blooded,

871
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: cold hearted, fully dark side person. No, this is still

872
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: the era where he was able to make connections with people.

873
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 3: He was able to make alliances and Reavera knows she

874
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: knows before obi Wan like that's his brother, his lover, whoever,

875
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: whatever way you read it, like that is the person

876
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: he was most connected to. And we get to see

877
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 3: that as like the episode ends in like give, give

878
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: you and all the awards for that final scene.

879
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: It's all there on his face and it is it is.

880
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 1: It's truly shocking, truly truly shocking. The as this trash

881
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: talking has happened, the Grand Inquisitor shows up and he's like, ah,

882
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: I caught you, Reva, I caught you disobeying my orders

883
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: trying to bring in obi Wan Kanomia. I'm gonna do

884
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: with myself. I gonna show you hat's done. And Riva's

885
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: like nope, and she stabs him through the gut.

886
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 6: Killing him.

887
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: No, he's actually fine.

888
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 6: Uh.

889
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 3: For those of you know that because of the cannon.

890
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know that for the because of rebels and

891
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: then the other canon comic book stuff. He he uh.

892
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: I won't say what his fate is. For those of

893
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: you who want to take that journey, it's a really

894
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: fun one. He he ends up leaving the story in

895
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: a very interesting way. I'll just say that, but he

896
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: is still alive right here, although the show is clearly

897
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: playing very coy with it for those who were just

898
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: into the live action, haven't done the animated stuff for

899
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: the comic books and aren't aware of what goes on

900
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: with the grandom prisoner. He is out here for a

901
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: number of years later, being incompetent yet again, Obie and

902
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: Lea make good their escape. All the way in the

903
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: cargo ship, Obi feels his old pupil and in reaching

904
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: out with the force, and then far away in Fortress

905
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: Vader on Mustafar. It is back to tank Anakin's eyes

906
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: open and we get chills. Oh my god, what what

907
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 1: a moment?

908
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, obi obi Wan says, I kid, and then we

909
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: hear that James L. Jones, he's back ninety one years young,

910
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: giving us the doth Dade.

911
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: Sounding as strong as ever.

912
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 3: That moment is just like I already thought. I was

913
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: like they got me with these first two episodes. I

914
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: didn't know how it was going to be feeling about

915
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 3: this show. But baby Lea like, I love this, This

916
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 3: is everything I want. Obi Wan, who's introspective, But that

917
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 3: moment when they reignite that connection and you remember why

918
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 3: the pre course has stood the test of time. Why

919
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 3: these characters mean so much to people that connection between

920
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 3: them is just like that is that's like they felt

921
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: like a historic momently in Star Wars, but also in

922
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: like Prestige TV. Like Debra Chow's doing such a brilliant

923
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: job in these episodes, and that framing of Ewan's face

924
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: and then seeing that reflection of the back to tank

925
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: and the eyes opening, you know that Darth Vader has

926
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: been in his suit all the time, like living this

927
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: Darth Vader, right, that's the notion, But in that moment,

928
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: it almost makes you feel like he's just been in

929
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: the back to Tank for ten years waiting to hear Obi.

930
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: You know, it's like they there's it's that it feels

931
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: that huge, that monumented. I mean, that's got to be

932
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 3: one of the that is like Disney always does a

933
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: good job teasing with the the episode amounts that they choose,

934
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 3: whether it's three, whether it's two, whatever, that's going to

935
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 3: be the hook where you're just like, oh.

936
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it hooked me.

937
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: That was very smart to do that episode now.

938
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: Very smart to just drop those two first. And that

939
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: takes us on to Part three release this week. On

940
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: the cargo ship out a diu Obi Wan meditates on

941
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: these recent and very very troubling events, including the revelation

942
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: that is old Patawan Anakin Skywalker is alive and is

943
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: doing a lot of mass murdering across the galaxies. Lord

944
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: Darth Vader Ben tries to connect with the spirit the

945
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: energy of his old mass or Quai gon Jin through

946
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: the force, but his connection is just too muddled, it's

947
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: too weak. Still, he is inundated instead with these troubling

948
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: images and memories. He sees Darth Vader emerging from his

949
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: back to tank suiting up. He hears and remembers snippets

950
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: of conversation from his clash with Anakin at the end

951
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: of revel to the scyth on the slopes of Mustafarr

952
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: and elsewhere. He hears Reva taunting him. Meanwhile, across the

953
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: galaxy on Mustafar Fortress, Vader Darth emerges from his tank.

954
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: He has a zoom call with Reva. So this is

955
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: what we were talking about, the fact that they have

956
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: nobody contact. Vader doesn't really have one to one conversations

957
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: with a lot of people, you know. It's like really

958
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: just it's like Tarken level people. You know, it's it's

959
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: the not a lot of other people. So he has

960
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: this zoom call of Reva. He harangues her for her

961
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: failure to capture Obi Wan. Reva's like, by the way,

962
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: the Obi Wan stabbed the Grand Inquisitor, and Darthur is like,

963
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: I don't care.

964
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: He's like, he is a relevant I.

965
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: Don't give a shit about the Grand Inquisitor. Uh, which

966
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: I'll get into it later, and he Vader doesn't care

967
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: about the Grand Inquisitor. He's obsessed with finding his old master.

968
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: Darth is like, listen, I know what you want. You

969
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: want to be the Grand Inquisitor and guess what you

970
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: find obi Wan Kenobi. I think I can make that happen.

971
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: But if you fail, and you know, Darth Vader doesn't

972
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: need to finish the sentence when d Vader says, if

973
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: you fail, you just better not fail. On the cargo ship,

974
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: Ben fixes Lea's little droid Lola, and then they have

975
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: a talk about the Force. Lea's like, what does it

976
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: feel like?

977
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 5: What's it like?

978
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: He's the Force? You know, would it like to be

979
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: a Jedi? And he uses this really wonderful metaphor says

980
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: I love this so much. Absolutely. He's like, have you

981
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: ever been afraid in the dark and then you turn

982
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: on the light? What's it feel like? She's like, it

983
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: feels safe. He's like, that's what it feels like. I

984
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: thought this was just wonderful. Absolutely, one ten out of ten.

985
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: They arrive on Mapuzo, which is an out of the

986
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: way mining system, kind of like the industrial heartland of

987
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: the Galactic Empire. They follow Haydra's coordinates to the meeting

988
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: point to find their contact, and they set out walking

989
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: in that direction. Ben is growing more and more concerned

990
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: with Leah's trusting nature, her instinct to see the world

991
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: is like inherently good, and he snaps at her a

992
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: little bit. It's like, everything is not good, Leah, everything

993
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: around us is not safe and good. He had just

994
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: I should add, seen a vision of Anakin standing on

995
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: a hillside right before this.

996
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, our first glimpse of Hayden and possibly why they

997
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 3: recost Hayden and why how are we going to sign?

998
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 3: We will more to the four.

999
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: We will talk about this and talk about that exact

1000
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: thing more. Meanwhile, Reva arrives at Fortress Inquisitorious as our

1001
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 1: first live action look at the home base of the Inquisitors.

1002
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: We first saw it in a Jedi phone in order.

1003
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: She's called in for a meeting with fifth brother and

1004
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: fourth sister probably I don't think they've identified her yet,

1005
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: but fourth sister, and she's like, hey, so Obi got

1006
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: on a cargo transport to some mining system somewhere and

1007
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: we should do something about it. And Fifth Broen is like, listen,

1008
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: I know what's going on. You want to be the

1009
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: Great Inquisitor, but guess what, I'm next in the line

1010
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: to be Grand Inquisitor, So watch yourself. And he uses

1011
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: the force to kind of like make her bow reva,

1012
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: then flexes on everybody by saying, oh, yeah, well, I

1013
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: just got off the phone the FaceTime with you know,

1014
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: my friend Darthy Vades. You might know him as Darth Vader.

1015
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: I call him. I call him Darthy. We're close. We

1016
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: text sometimes, and yeah, I just got off the phone

1017
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: with him, and I don't know. He told me that

1018
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: I am to lead the hunt for Obi Wan Kenobi.

1019
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: So when I say launched the probe to the mining

1020
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: systems to be a launching, you better fucking do it,

1021
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: because Darth Vader told me, Now, launch the fucking probes

1022
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: probes go launching. Ben and Lea on Mapuzo agree on

1023
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: a cover story if they're asked, they are visitors from

1024
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: Tall and Leah's name is Luma. But also Ben is like,

1025
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: don't talk, just don't talk at all. You talk a lot,

1026
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: you have a propensity to get involved in conversations with people,

1027
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: and just don't, please, don't do it. They arrive at

1028
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: the coordinates for the meeting and no one's there, nothing,

1029
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: nobody what to do next. Leah's like, I know, I

1030
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: see a truck. I'm gonna flag him down. Ben is like,

1031
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: is that a good idea? But Lea is already doing it,

1032
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: flags down the driver. His name is Frek, and Frek

1033
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: is a big, big fan of the Empire. He loves

1034
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: the Empire. He thinks it's great.

1035
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: He's like, what's wrong with some more dark? What's your Dutch?

1036
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: You with a doll up of order in the universe?

1037
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 4: Didn't we need that?

1038
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: I think we needed it, and I think the universe

1039
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: is better for it. Good imperial people. I love it.

1040
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 3: He's loving it. He's also like hilariously friendly, like he's

1041
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: just like a really chill guy on the road.

1042
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: A squad of Stormtroopers Hale's freck to catch a ride.

1043
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: They know him well, you know, they know him as

1044
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: a lover of the Empire. The Troopers, it turns out

1045
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: there on the lookout for Jedi. Uh, they're just happens

1046
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: to be a guy riding in the truck with him,

1047
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: just exactly.

1048
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 3: But you know what, they don't even worry about it.

1049
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 3: They don't worry about terrible at finding Jedi.

1050
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: They are very very bad at it.

1051
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 3: Obi they they are tired. I have to say, this

1052
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 3: is like another thing I think this era of Star Wars,

1053
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 3: even from like the new trilogy, has done really well,

1054
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 3: is like building in a little bit more humanity. Yes,

1055
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: for whoever's in the Stormtrooper suits. And these Stormtroopers are battered,

1056
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 3: they're dirty, tired, they have to get a freck.

1057
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't even get they can't even give They

1058
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: don't have a vehicle for them, no speeders, just walking around.

1059
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: It was. It was hilarious yet absolutely believable in the

1060
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 3: context of what we see that they kind of just

1061
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 3: even when what happens next happens, you believe it, yes,

1062
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 3: which is impressive.

1063
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: So they the other they questioned Ben a little bit

1064
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: where you're from. What's going on? He's like, I'm from Tall.

1065
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: We're here because her u is my daughter Luma, her

1066
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: mom's people are from here, and so we were just visiting.

1067
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: And then Obi fucks up and uses Lea's real name,

1068
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: but then covers it up by saying, uh, you know,

1069
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: her mother again just passed and that was her name

1070
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: and things have been really, really, really tough since then.

1071
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: But in this conversation, Leah again the fourth sensitive person

1072
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: who just instinctively can empathize, as you said, Rosie, with

1073
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: people and feel things. She knows that Ben knew her

1074
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: real mother her and she can tell that he's been

1075
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: hiding something probably related to that, but whatever it is,

1076
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: it's certainly painful. The troopers get off the truck and

1077
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: Leah asks, men, are you my real dad? Like is

1078
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: that what's going on here? It is a really sad moment.

1079
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 3: By the way, and he's like the saddest thing is

1080
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 3: He's like, I wish and I'm like, so does everyone

1081
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 3: else who watches wish that you were the more age

1082
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 3: appropriate pairing for Padme. They did such a good job

1083
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 3: in that moment, and again you and kills it like

1084
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 3: the chemistry between them is perfect, and it's another bit

1085
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 3: of that great storytelling where you can just the reason

1086
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 3: Leah knows is because like when he is looking at

1087
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: her and saying the stuff we miss her mother. You

1088
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 3: know it's true. It's just about padme, you know. And

1089
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 3: when he's like, yeah, like I wish I could say

1090
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 3: I was or whatever I was, just like wow, that

1091
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 3: is like so real, and then we get like a

1092
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 3: we get like a huge obi Wan moment as well

1093
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 3: well to.

1094
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: Hearing so Ben is like listen, I uh. He doesn't

1095
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: tell her, of course, who a real dad is.

1096
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 3: And he like derails it with his own emotional He is.

1097
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: Like, hey, but you know, listen, I know what it's

1098
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: like to wonder who your real parents are. The JEDID

1099
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: came from me when I was very young. I still

1100
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: have snippets of memories of you know, my mom and

1101
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: my dad and my brother. Wait what what.

1102
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 3: This is? Like? I absolutely love these shows. Yeah, I'm

1103
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 3: sure that they're just doing what the Marvel shows do,

1104
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 3: where they just like throw in some like canon that

1105
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 3: if it was legit would be absolutely explosive. So kind

1106
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 3: of like the notion of obi Wan's brother is like

1107
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 3: a huge controversial fandom drama, and it goes back to

1108
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 3: the A Return of the Jedi novelization by James Kahan,

1109
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 3: where it is claimed that Obi Wan is the brother

1110
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 3: of Owen Lars Luke Skywalker with brew. Now, that essentially

1111
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 3: stayed in the Expanded Universe canon. It was referenced multiple times,

1112
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: it was built on it. Sometimes. I think he was

1113
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 3: references like he was his stepbrother. Maybe, But what basically

1114
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 3: that stayed in that Expanded Universe canon as a truth

1115
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: until Attack of the Clones Because in Attack of the

1116
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 3: Clones we see Smi, who is Anakin's mom, who is

1117
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: left by Qui gon Jin. She the guy she marries

1118
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 3: the guy who bought her, and then that makes Anakin

1119
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 3: and Owen Lar's step brothers in the current Star Wars canon.

1120
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 3: But saying Obi Wan Kenobi remembers having a baby brother

1121
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 3: is gonna make fans go, oh my god. Yeah, especially

1122
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 3: with the sassy relationship that Ohen.

1123
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: It is clearly what they are hinting at.

1124
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they want you. I'm could it come to something?

1125
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 3: It could? I mean the notion of ober One from

1126
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 3: ob telling Anakin you were my brother. Anakin is like

1127
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: one of the most famous moments in Star Wars history.

1128
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 3: So I would be interested to see if they wanted

1129
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 3: to try and find a way around canon to to

1130
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 3: make something of that connection between the three of them

1131
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 3: and to make him more of a clinical family member

1132
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 3: of Luke and Lea. But that was such a huge

1133
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 3: moment that I was yelling because it's like, it's like

1134
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 3: they wanted to set the fandom on fire. I haven't

1135
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 3: even really been on the internet today, and I'm sure

1136
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 3: there's like five hundred articles about that because that was

1137
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, I texted you guys immediately.

1138
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 3: It was just like it is they did it.

1139
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: It was one of many kind of like huge drops

1140
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: in this very episode. The truck continues on its way,

1141
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: Frek stops at a checkpoint and he gets out, and

1142
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: he warns the troopers that are manning the checkpoint that, hey,

1143
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: I want to take a look at my passenger. Some

1144
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: weird about that guy.

1145
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:15,959
Speaker 3: Oh shit.

1146
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: Ben pulls up his hood so that he can look specifically,

1147
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: very much more like a Jedi than he already did.

1148
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was the right move, and

1149
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: things go sideways extremely quickly, and the inquisitorious probe one

1150
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: of the probes that they sent out across galaxy shows

1151
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: up and scans Ben's face. He shoots it, but not

1152
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: before it can upload his information to the Imperial Cloud.

1153
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: There is a shootout. Ben takes out the stormtroopers, but

1154
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: unfortunately another squad of stormtroopers pull up and it looks

1155
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: like it is curtains for our friends Ben, Kenobi and

1156
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: the young Princess Leah. But then, of all people, the

1157
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: imperial officer who arrives with that squad of stormtroopers by

1158
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: the name of Tala saves Ben Lea. Turns out she

1159
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: is a double agent, so to speak. There's no real

1160
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: rebellion at this time, but she has been working to

1161
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 1: undercut the Empire in any way that she can. She

1162
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: takes them to a safe house, which is a stop

1163
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: on an escape route for Jedi on the run Imperial

1164
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: dissidents for sensitive children called the Path.

1165
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is a really cool The Path leads

1166
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 3: to a planet called Jabim, and Jabim is like an

1167
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 3: old Legends stalwart planet that was always getting mentioned in

1168
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 3: comics and books, and there was battles on Jibim. It's

1169
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 3: a relevant place. If you've read the legend stuff, you

1170
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 3: probably recognize it, And I think that's just another really

1171
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 3: cool way that these shows are kind of building in

1172
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 3: that expanded universe world. And of course the canon animation

1173
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: stuff that we're seeing like play such a huge part.

1174
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: The inquisitors now know where Ben is. Fifth brother says, hey, Riva,

1175
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: don't don't bother informing Vader. I already told him. I

1176
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: got his number.

1177
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 3: I called him and I told him, and guess what,

1178
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 3: he was really excited about it. So just hollow calling

1179
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: Vader like Vada's lonely. He's just sitting in the house

1180
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 3: like he's he's got his like he's got his DMS open.

1181
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 3: He's like, please, anyone, anyone, like tell me what's going

1182
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 3: on with Obi. I need to know.

1183
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: So the Empire is now heading towards Mapuzo in force.

1184
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 1: Lea is now start after seeing all this violence up close,

1185
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: people dying, that stormtroom is gonna cut in half, she

1186
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: and seeing this escape route by people who are on

1187
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: the run from the Empire. She now is beginning to

1188
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: understand how dangerous things are all around her, and she

1189
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: is like, man, I wish I shouldn't have snuck away.

1190
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done that. That was really I see

1191
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: how silly that was and how childlike that was in

1192
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: this extremely grown up, in adult and merciless situation, bends

1193
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: like that's it wasn't your fault. You're a child. You

1194
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: should not have been thinking like that. Inside the safe house,

1195
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 1: our friends meet ned Be, a loder droid who quote

1196
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: isn't allowed to communicate, leading us all to expect that

1197
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: ned B will communicate at some point, right ned B

1198
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: will There is something to come with Nedb. Tala tells

1199
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: our friends that the Empire is hunting for sensitive kids

1200
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: for reasons unknown. We know the reason, at least in part,

1201
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: is to torture them and turn them into inquisitors, turn

1202
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: them into the hounds of the Empire. Should add that

1203
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 1: as part of the Jocostan new arc in the Darth

1204
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: Vader comic, the reason that Palbatine wants Jakostun who captured

1205
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 1: and wants her not to be killed. He tells Darth Vader,

1206
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: He's like, you got to make sure that nothing happens

1207
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: here before you take your prisoner. Is that she has

1208
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: in her possession a list of all the sensitive for

1209
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: sensitive kids throughout the galaxy. So there's not the first

1210
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: time that such a list has come up. It comes

1211
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 1: up in rebels too, but Darth then gets a hold

1212
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: of the list but then destroys it. One of those

1213
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: moments where Darth does something good for reasons that are unclear.

1214
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 1: I think the reason that you're meant to think about

1215
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 1: it in that moment is Darth doesn't want any competition.

1216
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,799
Speaker 1: He doesn't want any kids. He doesn't want Palpatine raising

1217
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: up any junior Darth Vaders to come and take his place.

1218
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: He wants that position all to himself. And I'm sure

1219
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: that's a large part of it. But there's also the

1220
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: part of it of no more, no more killing in

1221
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 1: my name. That's we are meant to at least hope

1222
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: that that is part of it. So we understand the

1223
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: Empire has been hunting for sensitive kids continue to do so.

1224
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: In a secret room at the head of a hidden passage,

1225
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 1: there is all this graffiti of the people that have

1226
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: come through here and that continue to use this place,

1227
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: and one of the names then recognizes it's Quinlan Voss.

1228
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: Quinlan Voss, who who we know from the Clone Wars

1229
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: and other places, is kind of like a Jedi, much

1230
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: like Qui gon Jin was like a Jedi who didn't

1231
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: adhere strictly to the Jedi dog, addressed in a different way,

1232
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: acting in a different way, was really his own type

1233
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 1: of person. Really interesting that Quinlan. There's been other hints

1234
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: elsewhere that Quinlan survived again. In the Darth Vader comic,

1235
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: Farren Barr mentions that it's rumored that Quinland survived. I

1236
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: think there's a mention of rebels that maybe he survived.

1237
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 1: But this is perhaps our first hard confirmation that Quinlan

1238
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: Voss is out here. And Tala says, yeah, Quinland's actively

1239
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: helping us. He's been helping shepherd kids through this path.

1240
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: And there's another bit of Jedi graffiti here that reads,

1241
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: only when the eyes are closed can you truly see?

1242
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: And this seems to resonate with Obi Wan in that moment.

1243
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: And as they are about to head off down the

1244
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: tunnel to the spaceport to leave, they hear something outside

1245
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: a commotion. Stormtroopers are arriving to search Tala's workshop, but

1246
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: they don't find a secret room or the tunnel. Leah

1247
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: watches Tala with fascination as she's like gearing up to

1248
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: take them to the spaceport. She's putting on her holster

1249
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 1: putting in her blaster. And it is clear in this moment,

1250
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: this wonderful bit of foreshadow, we're getting so much foreshadowing

1251
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: with young Leyah that Tala says something like, I put

1252
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: the holster on the other side and the opposite side

1253
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: of most people do, so I can draw quicker. And

1254
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: clearly Leah is inspired by the courage, the fierce dedication

1255
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: of this woman in this nascent rebellion. It's so early

1256
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 1: on that we don't even have a word for what

1257
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: this movement is. There is no even word for rebellion.

1258
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 1: She's just acting, you know, as like an independent person

1259
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: with other like minded people to try and undercut the

1260
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: empire in any way that she can. And it's clear

1261
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: that that Leah is inspired by this.

1262
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, And in a really cool moment, she's like, can

1263
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 3: you teach me how to shoot? Yeah, She's like she's

1264
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 3: like trying. She's like and I think Teala's like, wow,

1265
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 3: one day she's gonna be a fight, you know it.

1266
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 3: It's like you can see Lair in the future with

1267
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 3: that loss that like.

1268
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really great because like, listen of the courage

1269
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: here is Leya's courage reads as childlike naivete. But all

1270
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: of that is a through line. I was again going

1271
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: back to Rogue one and watching it. It's wild that

1272
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: Princess Leah went to the Battle of Scariff, which like

1273
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: not this was, you know, the Battle of Scaiff happened

1274
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: because Jinner so and uh and the rest just we're like,

1275
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: we have to do this. The rest of the rebellion

1276
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: is too scared to do it, and they went and

1277
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: that inspired others to go, you know, to go do it.

1278
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 1: And the fact that Princess Lea was one of those

1279
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: people who's just like, I'm gonna put myself directly in

1280
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: danger in this major battle that is not even really

1281
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: sanctioned by like all of the rebellion says a lot

1282
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: about Princess Lair and her willingness to put herself directly

1283
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 1: into harm's way, something that we see early on just

1284
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: by who she is, you know.

1285
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's so well established here as well, because

1286
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 3: like this is only like nine years away from a

1287
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 3: New Hope. Yeah, you know, Laya is a teenager in

1288
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 3: a New Hope. So in Rogue it's like she is

1289
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 3: still that young woman and it and it feels so

1290
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 3: true to her to see her as a kid being

1291
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 3: that brave, you can understand how she becomes that leader.

1292
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: Tala says to Ben, I can't believe that the great

1293
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: Obi wan Kenobe would be like she would be scared

1294
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: of anything, and Ben again recoils from that name, insists

1295
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: on being called Ben, and they start to go down

1296
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: the tunnel to escape, but as soon as they do that,

1297
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 1: Ben feels a malign evil presence. Darth Vader is here

1298
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: and you hear screams outside, so they go to peek

1299
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: outside to see what's happening, and what is happening is

1300
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: an absolute horror show. Vader is killing anyone who is

1301
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: around in order to rule out his old master, hoping

1302
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: that he will. You know, that's what we expect from

1303
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: a Jedi, right Seeing this Jedi would ignite their lightsaber

1304
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: go out there. Ben instead says, listen you Tala, take Lea,

1305
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: get out of here, and he goes out, but he

1306
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: doesn't go to face Darth Vader. He just runs runs away.

1307
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: In a quarry somewhere near the town, he comes face

1308
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: to face with Darth Vader, and but again he's reluctant

1309
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: to face him in battle, and Ben fleees, but he

1310
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: can't he can't go far enough. He knows that he

1311
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: can't escape Darth Vader. So he knites his lightsaber very reluctantly,

1312
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,560
Speaker 1: and he comes face to face with Darth and he says,

1313
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 1: in terrified like, what have you become? And Darth says, heartbreakingly,

1314
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: but really really evinly, I am what you made me.

1315
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: Darth says, it's like.

1316
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 3: It's so true and so sad. When he said that,

1317
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 3: I was just like, it's there is writing in this show.

1318
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 3: That's like, it's so simple, but it's just that in

1319
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 3: that you know six words. That is every guilt and

1320
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 3: fear and sadness that Obi Wan has because he knows

1321
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 3: it's true. Yeah, that is the that is the true failed.

1322
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: Jed I failed. Jet I failed their ability to do

1323
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: their their job to bring order the galaxy and fight

1324
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: the Scythe and keep them at bay. They failed at

1325
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 1: it in the most tragic way. They failed this young uh,

1326
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: this young for sensitive padawan who became a Jedi, who

1327
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: became a Sith Lord. They failed to help him aslong

1328
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: as way. And now not only that, but Ben failed

1329
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 1: in the moment when he needed to have steel in

1330
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,839
Speaker 1: his heart and he needed to strike anak and down.

1331
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: He didn't do it, and now he is faced with

1332
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: the consequences Darth Vader, who has been mass murdering across

1333
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: the fucking galaxy. It's also like one of the fascinating

1334
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: things that I think about all the time with with

1335
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: Star Wars is it's also it's also a little bit

1336
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: of projection, like Anak, and Darth takes some responsibility for

1337
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: what you did. I understand that, yes, you were working,

1338
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:11,879
Speaker 1: you were under the influence of Palpatine, an incredibly powerful

1339
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: Sith lord that nobody knew was around, and you were

1340
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 1: seduced by him and brought into the dark side, and yes,

1341
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: that happened, and the Jedi failed, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. But

1342
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: also you struck down kids, children in multiple at the

1343
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 1: Jedi temple, and you need to own that. And eventually

1344
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: he gets there, But in this moment, he it's somebody

1345
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: else's problem. It's somebody else's fault. He didn't. This is

1346
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: your fault for making me what I am. And that's

1347
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: true on some level, but also not true on another level. Meanwhile,

1348
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: the Inquisitors and the Special Stormtroopers they're searching town, Reava

1349
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: breaks away from them heads into Tala's workshop, where she

1350
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: finds the secret room, finds the tunnel, sees the sign

1351
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 1: of the Jedi carved into a wall, and something awakens

1352
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: in her. She becomes enraged, some emotiontional hit happens. Yeah,

1353
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,919
Speaker 1: it's clear there is some connection with the Jedi, something

1354
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: about them that drives her.

1355
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 3: I definitely feel like that, you know, only with your

1356
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,839
Speaker 3: eyes closed can you truly see? That sounds like something

1357
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 3: that telling jedis when you put in on the helmet

1358
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 3: and you can't see and you'll and I feel like

1359
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 3: there's something about seeing that sign and seeing these words

1360
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 3: that were probably told to her when she was training

1361
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 3: as a youngling. It is like a pharh rage that

1362
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 3: she is just overcome with. And it is obviously triggered

1363
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 3: by a trauma response to the Jedi.

1364
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And there's also you know, part of the Sith

1365
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: seduction to the dark Side is your eyes have been closed.

1366
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: The Jedi have been lying. They want you to keep your

1367
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: eyes closed and not see the true nature of the force.

1368
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: So here is this Jedi saying, you know a bit

1369
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 1: of Jedi wisdom that directly not only it hits her

1370
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: on an emotional level, but triggers that torture that she's

1371
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: gone through, that philosophy that's ingrained in her, that the

1372
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: jed I've been lying to you, they've been keeping the truth.

1373
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: Further on, Tala at Leiah's urging some bit of force

1374
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 1: persuasion here, maybe.

1375
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 3: Right, she does seem like she just tells how to

1376
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 3: do it.

1377
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: Tells her go back, go back and help obi Wan.

1378
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: She's just like, yeah, go ahead, go and Tala just

1379
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: heads back to face the most dangerous man, the most

1380
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: mass murdering man in the galaxy. And again, this is

1381
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: one of those moments where I agree with you. I

1382
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: there are these hints that Leah is this very powerful

1383
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: force sensitive and there it is. She just tells somebody

1384
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 1: to do something and they go and do it. Of course,

1385
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: Tala has that will to resist in her, but she

1386
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 1: she goes. Darth can feel in the midst of this

1387
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: duel how weak Ben has become with the four and

1388
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: he's almost disgusted by the toys with his former master.

1389
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: Rather than strike him down immediately, he instead sets him

1390
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: on fire. He sets a fire on the ground and

1391
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: then holding obi Wan above it, slams him down with

1392
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: the force into the fire and then drags him across

1393
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: and it's brutal and but before Darth can take obi

1394
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 1: Wan prisoner to further torturem is very clear he doesn't.

1395
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 3: Yeh because he said he was like, I'm not gonna

1396
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 3: Key's like, your pain is not over yet, no him, Yes,

1397
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 3: you're going in back to time.

1398
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: We are going to extend this pain. You were going

1399
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: to continue to feel it. But before that can happen,

1400
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 1: Tala and herdroid Ned come to the rescue. They manage

1401
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: to spirit Ben away. They blow up a tank of

1402
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: some kind of explosive crystals, and now Darth Vader and

1403
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: obi Wan are separated by this fire, much like they

1404
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: were on Mustafar, separated by fire. Yet again they managed

1405
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: to spirit Bent away. Darth is foiled. He there's the

1406
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: classic Darth Vader staring at the thing that he now

1407
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 1: cannot have and then turning away and discussed foiled again,

1408
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: but not for the last time, surely in our story.

1409
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: Tala then tells Ned get the transport ready, we're taking Ben.

1410
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: We got to get Ben to Jabeim. Leah continues down

1411
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: the tunnel where she's to meet her contact that will

1412
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 1: take her to Jabim, but instead she finds Riva, who says,

1413
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: I'll take you from here.

1414
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 3: Bum boom boom. Yeah. They do such a good job

1415
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 3: as well, because like Leah's like, are you my contact?

1416
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 3: And she says, no, they couldn't make it. I'll take

1417
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 3: it from here. And there's a moment where Leah believes that,

1418
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 3: and then Leah looks to the viewer and sees the

1419
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 3: dead bodies of the contact and then just tries to

1420
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 3: breathe truly a.

1421
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: Man. What a boa stunning episode, stunning, stunning, so action

1422
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: from end to end. Some questions remain, which we will

1423
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: continue to think about. I think that it's almost a

1424
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: foresure thing that at some point ben Kenobi will accept

1425
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: his name obi Wan Kenobi in some moment of triumph, right,

1426
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: And I think that a precursor to that will must

1427
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: be his successfully contacting his old master Uh, who he

1428
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: failed to contact at the beginning of this episode. Qui

1429
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: gon jin, he will, he will? We will see Liam

1430
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: Neeson in force ghost form, right. I feel like that

1431
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: has to happen.

1432
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,759
Speaker 3: That's definitely gonna happen. And I think a big journey

1433
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 3: that Obi Wan is gonna go on in this episode

1434
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 3: and way halfway through the season now, But I definitely

1435
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 3: do think that he is gonna go on that journey

1436
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 3: to reconnect with the Force, and I think that it

1437
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 3: will probably be some connected to Anakin slash Vader, Like

1438
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 3: I also wonder if Vader will like mockingly use his

1439
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 3: name or mockingly call him Ben and he'll sort of

1440
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 3: reclaim Obi Wan. But I'm yeah, I'm very interested definite

1441
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 3: Force ghosts Qui gone, which is gonna be like they'll

1442
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 3: have to do some narrative shifting to kind of and

1443
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 3: some playing with some stuff to make that possible. But

1444
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 3: I definitely think that's where we're headed, especially because right

1445
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 3: now we know his connection to the forces weak, and

1446
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 3: we're gonna need a really visible way to see that

1447
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 3: it's growing stronger. And I think it's going to be

1448
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 3: by connecting. Yeah, it's to that to his master.

1449
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: It is so tragic to see him this disconnected from

1450
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 1: the this you know, running from his former student. This

1451
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: is the guy who went toe to toe with Count Dooku,

1452
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: went toe to toe with Grievers, General Grievers. Yeah, toe

1453
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 1: to toe time and time and time and time again

1454
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: with Darth Maul, and now here he is unsure if

1455
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: he can hold his own with Darth Vader. It's really

1456
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: really tragic, but you feel like we've got to see

1457
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 1: him at the end of this. Obi Wan will be

1458
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: obi Wan again. You mentioned Hayden Christensen Darth Vader. It

1459
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: feels like, listen, you don't cast Hayden Christiensen just to

1460
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: put him in the Darth Vader armor where we never

1461
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: see his face except like in the back to tank,

1462
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: you know, behind back to bubbles, without even hearing his

1463
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 1: real voice. James or Jones again sounding stronger than ever

1464
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: doing the voice of Darth Vader, which leads me to wonder,

1465
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: does the helmet come off? Does it get damaged? Does

1466
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: he take it off? Does Obi Wan knock it off?

1467
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: Does it come off in the midst of some kind

1468
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 1: of fight, or do we get a flashback some kind

1469
01:26:55,640 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: of scene of Darth in his own mind connecting with

1470
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: the force and meditating in that way we saw. There's

1471
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: wonderful panels in the Darth Vader comic of Darth meditating,

1472
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: and you see him on some kind of force realm

1473
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 1: force plane, surrounded by fire and red angry energy, but

1474
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: also these little blue force butterflies, which we are meant

1475
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: to interpret as like the little kind of tricks of

1476
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: the light shining through in the darkness. I wonder if

1477
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: what we see to allow us to understand why.

1478
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 3: I think we get versions of both. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: that there's almost certainly going to be some kind of

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01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 3: human connection between the two without the mosque. I think

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01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 3: that's likely. But I also think that some kind of

1482
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 3: force plane we talked about well beyond wild Yes, I

1483
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 3: think that there is this bigger notion of what the

1484
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 3: force can do and how it can connect us. We

1485
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 3: saw it with Ray and Kylo when they were force

1486
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 3: like facetiming each other and being in the same space.

1487
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a version of

1488
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 3: that where Anakin is Anakin is Hayden and you and McGregor,

1489
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 3: and that is where they connect and where they speak

1490
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 3: to each other, some kind of meditative force plane where

1491
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 3: they both still see him in that way, which would

1492
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 3: make sense also flashbacks, but I do think that because

1493
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 3: of the nature of the prequels and them existing and

1494
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 3: then being so key, I don't know how much literal

1495
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 3: flashbacks will get. But I definitely think that it's not

1496
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 3: just going to be Hayden standing for a moment as

1497
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 3: in his cloak, you know, like we saw in this episode,

1498
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 3: I think there's definitely going to be more to his role,

1499
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 3: and I'm really excited to see where they go with

1500
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 3: it because they're definitely leaning into the emotion of this

1501
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 3: story that kind of means so much to fans and

1502
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 3: also is so key to kind of why people love

1503
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 3: you and so much is obi Wan.

1504
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 1: Reva, We got to find out what her deal is

1505
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: with obi Wan, what her connection to Darth Vader, whatever

1506
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: that is, what you know, what kind of special relationship

1507
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: she has with Vader, seemingly has with Vader, what the

1508
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: nature of that is. But also it feels like, listen,

1509
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 1: what is one of the core themes devices of Star

1510
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: Wars is someone in the dark being pulled back to

1511
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: the light, and Darth Vader tells her, listen, you can

1512
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 1: be the Grand Inquisitor if you succeed, but if you fail,

1513
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 1: guess what. And it feels like Reva is at the

1514
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 1: end of all of this, we know that the Grand

1515
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: Inquisitor spoilers still alive because he exists in canon going

1516
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: forward and he's still in that position. So it feels

1517
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: like Reva doesn't get the job. I e she fails,

1518
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 1: meaning at some crucial moment, does Reava turn away from

1519
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 1: the dark Side do something good finally and is struck

1520
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: down by Darth Vader or someone dies in that turn

1521
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: to the light It feels like I think that will happen.

1522
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 1: It feels like we got to see that.

1523
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 3: I think that's really likely. My hope would be that

1524
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 3: she gets to live on in some kind of Obi

1525
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 3: Wan esque self imposed exile rather than dying. Yeah, you know,

1526
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 3: like the but she does that good thing and it

1527
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 3: pits her against Anakin, and it seems quite likely that

1528
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 3: she may die. But I think that they're trying to

1529
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 3: recontextualize how they kind of play into those tropes. So

1530
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 3: I hope we could see something else. But I definitely

1531
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:51,679
Speaker 3: think a turn to the light side is likely, especially because,

1532
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 3: like you said, the Inquisitors are not Sith, they are

1533
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 3: Dark Side users. Yeah they are, And that is long

1534
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 3: in a controversial space in the in the Star Wars

1535
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 3: cannon of this like someone who can use both sides

1536
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 3: of the force, and and what does it mean to

1537
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 3: do that? And I think it'll be really interesting to see.

1538
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 3: I think that the Blue Butterflies is a great nod

1539
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 3: of of of this importance of the light side that's

1540
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 3: still able to be there. I think Disney actually did

1541
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 3: like a kid's cartoon that had Kylo Ren and he

1542
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 3: was playing with blue butterflies when he was a baby,

1543
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 3: and there was a lot of talk about like what

1544
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 3: did that mean and what did the blue butterflies mean

1545
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 3: for somebody who's going to turn from the dark side

1546
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 3: and eventually turn back to the light. So I think

1547
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 3: that's a really great I wouldn't be surprised to see

1548
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 3: a few fluttering by. But yeah, I'm really interested to

1549
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 3: see where Reaver's journey goes because it feels like it

1550
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 3: feels like her anger towards the Jedi is likely very justified.

1551
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: I think that Jedi fucked up in a million different ways.

1552
01:31:55,800 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 3: Nature of the Jedi is key to the so even

1553
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 3: Obi Wan talks about it for the first time, we

1554
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 3: really hear someone say, you know, I was taken away

1555
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 3: from my family as a child, and I was raised

1556
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 3: by the Jedi and they became my family. But that's

1557
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 3: still not a great way to run a society or

1558
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 3: like a strange elite force. So I'm really interested to

1559
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 3: see where Reava's story goes, and also Reavas seems to

1560
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 3: me like a character who's ripe for like a comic

1561
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 3: book and a book and all kinds of things exploring

1562
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 3: their story. More so, I'm excited to see how that

1563
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 3: gets expanded out in Canada.

1564
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,640
Speaker 1: And then finally, you know, we're in this age of

1565
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:38,799
Speaker 1: bringing in these get characters from the extended Star Wars

1566
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:43,520
Speaker 1: universe into the live action space. We saw Black Chrysantin

1567
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: of Course and Book of Boba Fett and Black Croysantin

1568
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 1: of course is known to work closely with doctor Afra,

1569
01:32:54,120 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: the kind of independent and fears and trash talking archaeologist

1570
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 1: who's kind of an im moral gray Ara, but a

1571
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 1: really fun and independent character. I think all of us

1572
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 1: are expecting at some point in time, and we're expecting

1573
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 1: in Bookovet that maybe doctor Affra would show up. And

1574
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: I think other people have said this, but we're waiting

1575
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 1: for Maya Erskin from Pen fifteen fame to show up

1576
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 1: in this story. And it feels like if you wanted

1577
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: to cast doctor Afra, you could do a lot worse

1578
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: than my Erskin.

1579
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 3: And the timeline is right.

1580
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: The timeline is right if that were to happen.

1581
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 3: And yeah, when you said this, I was just like,

1582
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 3: I need this to be the case because that costing

1583
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 3: would be so brilliant, and also it speaks to why

1584
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 3: you would have to have Hayden, yes, because if you

1585
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 3: have Afra, then you like have a relationship between her

1586
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 3: and Vader, an antagonistic alliance of survival that needs and

1587
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 3: that would be a very interesting use of Hayden. And

1588
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 3: it would also deal with one of the biggest issues

1589
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:18,799
Speaker 3: with doing Afra in live action, which is she needs

1590
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 3: to be alongside Vader at some points. So if you

1591
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 3: do it now, if Hayden doesn't necessarily want to come

1592
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 3: back and be Vader again, you don't have to deal

1593
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,639
Speaker 3: with that issue. You can just have Afra and you've

1594
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 3: already established that connection here. I love this casting. I

1595
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:37,679
Speaker 3: am like crossing my fingers because he's very under the radar.

1596
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 3: You were like, I'm sure people have said this, and

1597
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 3: I googled it and maybe like two or three places

1598
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 3: and not like the usual the usual kind of suspects

1599
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 3: said maybe this was could be the case. So I

1600
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 3: am I am crossing my fingers because that PEM fifteen

1601
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 3: is so great and Maya is just like a fucking talent,

1602
01:34:55,560 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 3: and it would just be such good, cool, fun really funny.

1603
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: Really. For those of you not up in Doctor Afra, uh,

1604
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: check out some of the Doctor Afra comic books of

1605
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: the Marvel Star Wars comics. She's got her own title.

1606
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: And I'll just say that her relationship with Vader. We

1607
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: talked about these unlikely alliances that Vader strikes for reasons

1608
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: that are hard to unpack. Sometime they seem like purely

1609
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: ambitious to further he's evil, but they also seem to

1610
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 1: hint at something else, and the relationship they have, and

1611
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 1: Afra's courageousness and the way she deals with Vader is

1612
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:43,000
Speaker 1: really unique, and man, it would be great if that was.

1613
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,759
Speaker 3: That would be such an interesting counterpoint to the fear

1614
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 3: that everyone currently has to have that kind of fearlessness,

1615
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 3: and it would be an interesting reflection of Reva too,

1616
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 3: this kind of person who can ally themselves with Vada

1617
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 3: when they need to. Yeah, I am hoping that's like

1618
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,759
Speaker 3: my biggest one. I mean, everything else about this show,

1619
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 3: like unless it's going to be some weird, deep cut

1620
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 3: thing that only I care about that already delivering, like

1621
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,599
Speaker 3: the young Leya, the introspective obi Wan. So that's now

1622
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 3: my that's my pet theory I am. I'm manifesting Maya

1623
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 3: as is not that well.

1624
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 1: We can't wait for the next episode. Check check this space.

1625
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 1: Check us a week from Friday, where we'll talk about

1626
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 1: the next episode of E we Want. We're super excited

1627
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 1: about it up next nerd Out. In this week's nerd Out,

1628
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: a recurring segment where you tell us what you love

1629
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Speaker 1: and why, Heidi pitches us on The Three Body Problem

1630
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: by Eluji shin the first novel and the Remembrance of

1631
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:52,679
Speaker 1: Earth's Past trilogy. It's a great sci fi.

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Speaker 5: Hello X ray Vision physics fans alike. My name is

1633
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 5: Heidi and I teach university physics, which is why I'm

1634
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 5: excited to share with you my love and excitement for

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Speaker 5: the Remembrance of Earth's Past novel series, or commonly referred

1636
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 5: to as the Three Body Problem. I was first introduced

1637
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 5: to the novel while listening to one of Jason's many

1638
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 5: COVID sucks. I'm stuck in the house and you're stuck

1639
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 5: in the house, so let's talk about nerd stuff twitch streams.

1640
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 5: He highly recommended the novel for its mind bending, hard

1641
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 5: science fiction rendition of Earth's first encounter with an alien race.

1642
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 5: At the time, I was a master student studying space

1643
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 5: system's operations and was craving more space based sci fi content,

1644
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 5: and this epic tale checked all the boxes. This Hugo

1645
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 5: Award winning novel series is the product of Chinese science

1646
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 5: fiction author chich India. In today's world, China is a

1647
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 5: country that is quietly making considerable gains in the realm

1648
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 5: of space, both scientifically and militarily, which drew me into

1649
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 5: the work. In the novel, citizens of Trisolaris have found

1650
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 5: a way to contact the people of Earth through a

1651
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,799
Speaker 5: virtual reality game that transports its players into the horrors

1652
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 5: of the experience living on a planet stuck in the

1653
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 5: three body system n body systems refer to three or

1654
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 5: more bodies interacting with each other gravitationally and orbital mechanics.

1655
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 5: Two bodies will predictably orbit each other. However, when a

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01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 5: third body is introduced, the number of variables becomes unmanageable

1657
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 5: and physics begins to break down, creating what scientists refer

1658
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,719
Speaker 5: to as a chaotic state with two suns and one planet.

1659
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 5: The scenario Trisolaris finds itself. There are periods in the

1660
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,760
Speaker 5: world's orbit where the planet is near a single star

1661
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 5: and can exist as expected, and other times where it

1662
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 5: is near both or neither stars, causing unsurvivable periods of

1663
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 5: immense heat, radiation, or no light and heat at all.

1664
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 5: The Aliens are left desperate and need the Earth to

1665
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 5: save its race. The three book series spans immense tracts

1666
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 5: of time and space. It is a fusion of science, philosophy,

1667
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 5: world politics, physics, and conspiracy that plays out in a

1668
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 5: page turning epic that makes you earn for more. The

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01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:52,839
Speaker 5: novel series uses fairy tale like analogies to present problems

1670
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:55,719
Speaker 5: faced by the world that allows the readers to unfold

1671
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 5: the science in a natural way that brings understanding to

1672
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:01,679
Speaker 5: the most novice of science fiction readers and experienced scientists

1673
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 5: like The author also continuously calls out the Chinese government

1674
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 5: of today for its idiocricies, but does it in a

1675
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 5: way that fails his true meaning the same way his

1676
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 5: characters attempt to trick the try Solarians, which I find hilarious.

1677
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 5: As China outwardly raves about the novel's success, the best

1678
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 5: part of the series is that you can look forward

1679
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Speaker 5: to none other than our boys Benny Oftenwise adapting the

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Speaker 5: novels in an upcoming Netflix series. Filming has already begun

1681
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Speaker 5: and you can look forward to a star studed cast

1682
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 5: that includes John Bradley and William Cunningham of Game of

1683
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 5: Thrones and Benedict Wong from the Marvel Universe. The book,

1684
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 5: in many ways is touted as unfilmable, but that did

1685
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 5: not stop D and D before. The other good news

1686
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 5: is that the trilogy is complete. It hosts one of

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Speaker 5: my favorite endings in all of literature, masterfully written as

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Speaker 5: if I was already watching it in Imax three D.

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Speaker 5: I'm excited to see the story come to life on

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Speaker 5: our screens, and with filming wrapping up in August and

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Speaker 5: a potential lease in twenty twenty three, at least plenty

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Speaker 5: of time for you to read through the three novels

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Speaker 5: of this series before it's cinematic debut.

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Speaker 1: it's been a big Star Wars episode and it's a

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Speaker 1: big thank you to Rosie Night for join us on

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Speaker 1: x ray Vision, Rosie what do you have to plug?

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Speaker 3: I the same as all you know Instagram, Rosie Marx

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Speaker 3: Letterboxed is the same. Lots of cool pieces coming up

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Speaker 3: at Nerdict especially and IGN and Polygon, some cool anime stuff,

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Speaker 3: queer comics stuff for Pride. Also, I'm going to be

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Speaker 3: all over that Miss Marvel stuff. As we said last week,

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Speaker 3: we had our kind of first reactions and we were

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Speaker 3: definitely fans. I'm also going to be on the upcoming

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Speaker 3: episode of June Pod talking about Logan's run. Yeah, a

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Speaker 3: good buds at the June Pod so talking about Logan's

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Speaker 3: Run one of the weirdest, like funniest seventies movie viz.

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Speaker 3: That it's like a stole wall of British culture for

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Speaker 3: some reason. So it's like been in my life, like

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Speaker 3: my whole life. So that one was really fun and

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Speaker 3: they're friends of the pod, so definitely check that one out.

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Speaker 1: Folks, don't forget to check out our videos on the

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Speaker 1: our show notes for the Listener's Guide to X ray Vision,

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Speaker 1: where we provide details on all the stuff we talk about.

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Speaker 1: We help you figure out and identify what all those

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Speaker 1: references are that we that we make all throughout the episode.

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Speaker 1: Catch the next episode on June tenth, what we'll be

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Speaker 1: diving into Miss Marvel, and of course more Obi wan Kenobi,

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Speaker 1: by christ Lord and Sal Rubin. The show is executive

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Speaker 1: produced by myself and Sandy's rhard are editing and sound design.

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Speaker 1: provide video production support. Alex Rella for handles social media,

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Speaker 1: Brian Vescuez for theme music.

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Speaker 4: See you next time.

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Speaker 3: Bye, Mike.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Mike, this is Dolan Marine. I want to talk

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Speaker 6: about the Inquisitors here today. Mike listen. I know the Inquisitors.

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Speaker 6: They've run up an incredible score.

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Speaker 3: Mike. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They've been the.

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Speaker 6: Winning team, part of a winning franchise for almost a

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Speaker 6: decade by the time we meet them and Obi wan Kenobi. Mike,

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Speaker 6: But I tell you, Mike, that's the regular season. Mike.

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Speaker 6: Those are the no name Jet. No disrespect to them,

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Speaker 6: but that's the no name Jedi the no name Padawan,

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Speaker 6: the four sensitive kids, those are the easy ones to

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Speaker 6: pick up, Mike. You know, the clones did most of

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Speaker 6: the heavy lifting in the early days of Autum sixty six.

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Speaker 6: Now we're in the you know, to use a sports metaphor, Mic,

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Speaker 6: we're in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: Now is the playoffs now.

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Speaker 6: Mike, And this is the This is Canaan Jerris, this

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Speaker 6: is cal Kests, this is Obi Wan Kenoby. And I

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Speaker 6: gotta say, Mike that the inquisitors, they're not up to

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Speaker 6: the task, Mike. And it's about that chemistry, Mic. They're

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Speaker 6: they're arguing in amongst themselves, they're stab in each other.

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Speaker 6: Their locker room is a mess. Coach Vader has been

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Speaker 6: coaching from a far palper team. Put this team together,

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Speaker 6: and I'm not sure he did it in the right way.

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Speaker 6: Vader needs to come off the injured reserve and he

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Speaker 6: needs to coach this team, Mike. And now he's doing it,

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Speaker 6: and maybe we'll see something turn around. But I don't

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Speaker 6: know if it's gonna happen. I'll take my answer off

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Speaker 6: the air. Thank you, Mike.