WEBVTT - “I’M A FEMALE TRUCK DRIVER”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, Hi, Oh my god, gek.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your name? Sydney, Sydney? What's going on? Sydney?

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<v Speaker 2>How's life?

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<v Speaker 1>And life is good. I'm just at home, just came

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<v Speaker 1>back from walking the dog.

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<v Speaker 2>You texted me and you said you want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about what it's like being a female truck driver. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah for sure. So I work for a trucking

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<v Speaker 1>company and I basically just like move trucks around all day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty fun.

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<v Speaker 2>You move. How long of a distance do you move

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<v Speaker 2>these trucks?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I do just like like around like my city

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. Like you can choose to do lognissance or

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<v Speaker 1>like around the city, but I want to come home.

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<v Speaker 3>Every day, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I choose, like I chose like to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>like work during the day.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just worked like seven to two every day and

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty chill.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it's not like a crazy like long haul trucking.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's because like I wanted to do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have a kid, so I like don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that obviously. I like being home everyday.

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<v Speaker 2>How's your kid doing? How old are they?

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<v Speaker 1>She's too she just turned two.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how's that? Gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah's it's fun. It's good. She's crazy, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>it keeps me busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hesitated? Why did you hesitate? I'm curious?

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<v Speaker 1>Well because right now, like she's not with me. She

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<v Speaker 1>stays with her dad half the time, so unfortunately she's

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<v Speaker 1>not here today.

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<v Speaker 2>Is her dad in the same city as you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he lives not far from me, like ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes for me. So I moved out like in October,

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<v Speaker 1>so be cause things aren't really great between us. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how long were you too?

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<v Speaker 2>How long? How long were you two together?

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<v Speaker 1>For like four or five years something like that?

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<v Speaker 2>We met in twenty twenty, Okay, it's a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's when like I started listening to you

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty, when I was working at a different job,

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<v Speaker 1>doing like different kind of trucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did uh do? Why did things like deteriorate? Ah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he was like addicted to porn.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah how how addicted to porn?

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<v Speaker 4>Was he?

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<v Speaker 3>Like everybody he.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to spend Yeah, no, he used to send pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of his ass, so like random guys on like snapsdown

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<v Speaker 1>and like talked random people in ome goal and shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the thing is he never wanted to have

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<v Speaker 1>sex with me. That was like the main issue. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like not like that, Like I like having an

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<v Speaker 1>intimate relationship, you know, Like but he like just never communicated,

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<v Speaker 1>like always shut down every time I talked to him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like so like things kind of just got worse.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're kind but we were stuck living together, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because like we both moved out pretty young, so I

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<v Speaker 1>was like he was my only way out of like

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<v Speaker 1>living at like my mom, So you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have a choice. And like obviously things are always

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<v Speaker 1>good at first, but then like you find out who

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<v Speaker 1>someone really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmmm.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 2>This the thing about like the like porn and jack

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<v Speaker 2>and off addiction thing is like that is the point yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when like, uh, like I I do believe that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>can co exist alongside a healthy relationship, but like when

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<v Speaker 2>it gets to a point where like you're not even

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<v Speaker 2>attracted to your like partner anymore, like you didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to have sex with them anymore. I mean that's just

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<v Speaker 2>like yeahah, it makes it like a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not fun. Like it made me feel very unwanted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then it made me like very anxious,

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<v Speaker 1>like I got, like, you know, I had like an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting childhood, so I was like pretty anxious already, and

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<v Speaker 1>then like him always like seeking around and like lying

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<v Speaker 1>about his phone and shit and hiding his phone all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, you know, and I would find shit like

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<v Speaker 1>on his phone and he would just lie straight up

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<v Speaker 1>to me about it, you know or see who would

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<v Speaker 1>change and then like never.

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<v Speaker 2>Do was there? Like what did you guys have like

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<v Speaker 2>a good sex life, like at the beginning of the relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it just like from I was like always

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<v Speaker 2>always there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was always me who in this she did like

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<v Speaker 1>she'd have seen the red flag, but like it was

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<v Speaker 1>always me, you know. But like his Lafe relationship, he

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<v Speaker 1>told me that his girlfriend never want to have sex,

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<v Speaker 1>so he like never did, you know, and he respected

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<v Speaker 1>her obviously, you know, but like so I think he

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<v Speaker 1>never learned. So like we did it for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time together great, but then he never really like initiated,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. M But like, you know, we've got along

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<v Speaker 1>really well, like we had friends like together, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like we got along really well. You know, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff in common, you know, So I

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<v Speaker 1>tried not to think about it too much.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm, and yeah, I just never got better.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how are you guys lying? It was the

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<v Speaker 2>lying you said.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot of lying, you know, like even

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<v Speaker 1>to this day, always like a little white live.

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<v Speaker 2>How how is the co parenting going? Selright to co

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<v Speaker 2>parent with?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, it's a lot better now for sure, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>moved out in October. So ever since moving out, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's been way like ten times better. But I had

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<v Speaker 1>to fight to like get to mediation at to fight him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to like get child support. And even like

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<v Speaker 1>today he's still like late on child support, hasn't paid

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<v Speaker 1>me yet, you know, like he's supposed to do it

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<v Speaker 1>every month.

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<v Speaker 2>But like whatever, did you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the kid is happy?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys have a lot of disagreements in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of like how to raise the child? No, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, Like but I'm the one who's more in

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<v Speaker 1>control of everything, you know, like I have to tell

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<v Speaker 1>him like what to do a lot, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like yeah, like what to feed her, how

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<v Speaker 1>to put her to bed? How like you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>to give her a back, like simple things you know

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<v Speaker 1>that he should just do as a parent, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to like tell him mmmmmmm. But like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he has gone a lot better though, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>like having her more you know, like on his own,

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<v Speaker 1>like has made him like show up more for her,

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<v Speaker 1>because he wasn't really there for the first like year

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<v Speaker 1>of her life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, where was he Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he was just working all the time where he

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<v Speaker 1>would come home and just like line the couch and

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<v Speaker 1>if I ever asked, like if I want to go out,

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<v Speaker 1>he would just be like, call my mom, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to watch her.

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<v Speaker 2>If he ever say that again, if you ever wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go out, he would call his mom to watch her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Or he would tell me to call her and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, if you want to go out, like call

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<v Speaker 1>my mom. You know, Like he wouldn't stay home and

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<v Speaker 1>watch her. You know he can deal with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, does he like being a dead.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, like you know, he's the one who

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the baby. You know, he's the one who can

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<v Speaker 1>think me like not to get an abortion, like was

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<v Speaker 1>super into it, like will be you know, nice happy

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<v Speaker 1>family and then yeah really yeah, yeah, so that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, like I found out pretty early, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I was like for sure fifty to fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>like definitely had to think about it, and in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>like I did like keep her obviously my decision, but

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<v Speaker 1>like he definitely like play a part in it too,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Was like I'm very happy now, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>living my best life right now, so I'm like super

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<v Speaker 1>happy and everything now. So everything worked out well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but still like I have a boyfriend now and that's

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<v Speaker 1>been great. He's like the best guy ever. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a one to eighty, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. Was was the baby planned? Like was it

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<v Speaker 2>like a planned story? Like he became pregnant and then

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<v Speaker 2>it was like fifty to fifty on keeping it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like like we weren't even together when I got

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant really like we had we had broken up, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it was like August twenty twenty three and we had

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<v Speaker 1>broken up. But then like like we had two cats,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like was bored on a Friday night and

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to go see if they were there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he weren't. They weren't there, like he brought

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<v Speaker 1>them to his mom's and shit, and then like whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing led to another, so fucking stupid. So we

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<v Speaker 1>got back to bed together. Obviously when I found out

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<v Speaker 1>I was pregnant and then Yeah, so it's already be

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<v Speaker 1>like not stable to begin with, I guess, but like

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<v Speaker 1>we're chilled now, you know, like he has a girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a boyfriend now, Like you know, he's living

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<v Speaker 1>his life. I'm living mine. I mean we definitely do

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<v Speaker 1>disagree every once in a while, and you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not too bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're living your best life now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, like like having an amazing boyfriend. We have

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<v Speaker 1>like a little like townhouse together.

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<v Speaker 6>We just got a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Like I work like part time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like at a super chill like truck driving job. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's like very nice, you know, so I'm pretty lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. Yeah, tell you about Yeah what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>What does your best life look like? Is it? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that what you always wanted to be?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, definitely. I think it's like I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have like like a normal upbringing. You know, I had

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<v Speaker 1>like divorced parents, but like not messy divorced parents.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I, like me and her dad didn't work out,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to make it like as easy as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't want any fighting, I didn't want lawyers.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want court, you know, I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make it like easy as possible.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but yeah, I love my life. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>love that I get to drive around all day and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get to hang out my dog and go

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<v Speaker 1>to pool and like my me and my boyfriend golf together.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to dinner even though we can't. We shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go out to eat as much. That's our main issue

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<v Speaker 1>in life, spending money on food.

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<v Speaker 4>But like.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's so expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's making your You said your boyfriend's the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is he the best?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know, like he tells me he loves me.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually like treats me right, he like cares about

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<v Speaker 1>me and like shows it, you know, like took in

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<v Speaker 1>like me and my daughter. You know it didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. You know, he liked me and he

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<v Speaker 1>knew he had a kid.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>But like he didn't have to do what he did.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he didn't have to help us and like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, help me, you know, like he didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do all that, but he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm hm. No, he sounds like a good dude.

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<v Speaker 1>No, definitely, he does like like car wrapping, so like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you put like let's say you get

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<v Speaker 1>a new car whatever, and you want to protect your paint,

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<v Speaker 1>like he does that, so he like wrapped the car

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<v Speaker 1>and like a clear film or like you can make

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<v Speaker 1>a mat or whatever. He has his own business.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice. What uh? And you're Canadian?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Where in Canada? Do you? What city is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Montreal and I'm actually here in Montreal.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Montreal. You go to the show. Oh cool, that'll

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<v Speaker 2>be my first dude, that that's gonna be my first

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<v Speaker 2>time in uh Montreal. I've heard only incredible things about Montreal.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard it's like an amazing place.

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<v Speaker 1>No, honestly, I love living here like I was born

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<v Speaker 1>and raised, you know, like I love it other than

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<v Speaker 1>the friends, like everything is great other.

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<v Speaker 2>Than okay, tell me about this. What do you mean

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<v Speaker 2>other than the French?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, just because like I'm like born here, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't speak very good French, so like sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I like, I like truck driving. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really have to speak French to anyone, but everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Speak Well what's the deal there? Okay, So I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>that's been a thing and I guess I'll get a

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<v Speaker 2>handle on it when I go there. I'll probably stay

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<v Speaker 2>a few days. Actually, most of these places I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of going in and out. But Montreal, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>stay a few days.

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<v Speaker 4>I've yeah, I do for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that. It's like, yeah, I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 2>the deal with it, because it's like it's frenchy, but

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<v Speaker 2>not everyone speaks French. But sometimes I meet a guy

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<v Speaker 2>from Montreal and he has like a French accent, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what is this? But then I talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you and You're just like, uh, you have a fully

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<v Speaker 2>Canadian accent. So I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>So, like, it all depends, I guess on where you're

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<v Speaker 1>like born or raised, Like I'm in like the west

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<v Speaker 1>part of Montreal, so it's all like English here, like

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<v Speaker 1>very English like suburbs, you know. And then if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the city or like the outskirts of Montreal, it's

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<v Speaker 1>more like French, you know, like Laval and like Lunge,

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<v Speaker 1>like downtown, you know, French. But let's say I are

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a restaurant downtown and spoke English, like

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<v Speaker 1>the waiter would speak English to me. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like people are pretty bilingual mm hm, so

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<v Speaker 1>like you'll have no problem you know, talking to people

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe like they'll have an accent, but like they'll

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<v Speaker 1>still speak like English to you. And people love tourists,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you guys get a lot of tourists.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would, I think so, Like I don't go

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<v Speaker 1>downtown too often, but I love going to the Old

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<v Speaker 1>Port during the summer. It's so nice, like going on

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<v Speaker 1>the terraces and everything like that the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I I was gonna h I also wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you wanted to talk about what it's like being

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<v Speaker 2>a female truck driver. I didn't know if you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to elaborate on that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it doesn't really matter, like I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fun, you know, like like I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>it just sometimes like obviously men like it always seems

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<v Speaker 1>like they're very surprised, you know, because I'm like not

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<v Speaker 1>a tall girl, Like I'm pretty petite, you know, So

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<v Speaker 1>like there was like, oh, like how do you do

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<v Speaker 1>this drive these big trucks, you know, And I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like you like normally, like I just

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<v Speaker 1>got to bring the seat up a little more than you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know, like I think it's the only thing,

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<v Speaker 1>or like they'll call me like, you know, like in French,

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<v Speaker 1>like pretty is like Jali, So they'll call me like

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<v Speaker 1>Jelly a lot, you know a lot of people I

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<v Speaker 1>work with, but like sometimes I'll go like today, like

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<v Speaker 1>a construction worker called me that and I was like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like but like move along.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it is the horniest language, is it not?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like pepe lepeu, like the the most famously horned do

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<v Speaker 2>you know pepe Lepu?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course I love Mooney Tunes.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Jalie. I will say, like, but it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense that it's like the hornious language because like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, if like some French guy called me Jalie,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I would I would blush a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, for sure, I mean I'll take the comment,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I'm not like they're not being like

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<v Speaker 1>rude or anything or like overly like sexually, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're just old men, you know see a pretty girl,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't really let it bother me too much.

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<v Speaker 2>So you speak a little bit so everyone like when

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<v Speaker 2>you go to you went to school there right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>what do they teach in school? Is it French or English?

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<v Speaker 1>So well, there's two school boards. There's an English school

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<v Speaker 1>board and the French school board. I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>English one because do you need, like your parents to

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<v Speaker 1>be born both your parents be born in Quebec to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to be able to go to English school?

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<v Speaker 1>Because both my parents were born here, I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to go to English school. But if they weren't, I

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<v Speaker 1>was an immigrant. Like immigrants when they come here, they're

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<v Speaker 1>forced to go to French school, like, so they have

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<v Speaker 1>no choice but to learn French. So they're like stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in quebecause they only know French when they come here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's stupid. Yeah, that's kind of wild, is it? Why

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<v Speaker 2>do they do it? Why did they do it?

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<v Speaker 6>Like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Be could they want to protect their language?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but then it fox everyone who goes there,

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, they can't really leave Quebec exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why I like you if you're never coming

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<v Speaker 1>from you know, wherever, you know, India or whatever, like

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<v Speaker 1>they want you to stay here, but they want you

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<v Speaker 1>to like only learn their language, you know, m And

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<v Speaker 1>they make you pay a bunch of money to come

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<v Speaker 1>here too.

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<v Speaker 2>How big is this truck you're driving? How many wheels?

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<v Speaker 2>We talking?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Some eyes like eighteen wheelers and stuff and or like

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<v Speaker 1>straight bodies like the long ones. Yeah. Yeah, I have to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be careful, especially driving around the city. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's why, like it's kind of safer than highway driving.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, more accidents can happen that way, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mind being in traffic all day, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>just going around the city.

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<v Speaker 2>Wall, I feel like it was okay. So I actually

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<v Speaker 2>was feeling like it's the opposite because if you're on

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<v Speaker 2>a highway, you just got to move forward. You just

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<v Speaker 2>like like I love when I'm doing a long drive

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<v Speaker 2>and I look at my Google Maps and it says

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<v Speaker 2>like one hundred miles or kilometers or whatever until the

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<v Speaker 2>next thing, because I'm like, all right, I just go forward, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, driving an eighteen wheeler at like like taking

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<v Speaker 2>an eighteen wheeler to like a traffic stop, that sounds

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds like a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's honestly, like I'm going pretty slow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not a big deal. And I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>just like kind of cruising around the city, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not really rushing anywhere. It's more annoying like

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm trying to get home and like there's traffic,

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<v Speaker 1>which tends to be often but you know, it is.

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<v Speaker 6>What it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But like the thing is, it's like when you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the highway, like it's more dangerou because like that can

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<v Speaker 1>cause like a statal axit. You know, I'd rather get

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<v Speaker 1>into a little fender bender, you know, like in the

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<v Speaker 1>city then like get into like a five car pile

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<v Speaker 1>up on the highway, you know what I mean. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's like what the danger is. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get paid like crazy, so like the highway guys

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<v Speaker 1>they get paid more because like of the risk and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they're.

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<v Speaker 2>Going further, you know. Yeah, yeah, I've talked about this

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<v Speaker 2>a billion times something here, But like I fucking that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that's the most, Like that's so dangerous to me,

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<v Speaker 2>just be the highway. I hate the highway. Like I'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather go to like the walk around you know in

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<v Speaker 2>Iraq than like be on like the highway of a

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<v Speaker 2>nice suburb.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that shit fucking scares me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, for sure. Like I MO, it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>always hear about accidents and shit, you know, people dying

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Like I always see like people dying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's like, fuck, man, it's messed up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope you live long enough to be a

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<v Speaker 2>little old lady walking around Montreal. That sounds like one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best lives available to a human being.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you me too, honestly, Like, I want to live

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. I don't want like I want my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter see me when I'm like old and shit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and be there and watch her and everything. We just

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<v Speaker 1>had a loss in the family. My aunt just passed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, why can my cousin be without a mom?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I don't want that to ever happen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like only when I'm really old.

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney, is there anything else you want to say to

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<v Speaker 2>the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, everyone, have a nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Night, beautiful. I'll see in Montreal.

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<v Speaker 1>Dog, Yeah, I see you in Montreal. Have a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>by Sydney. Thanks by.

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<v Speaker 2>Montreal. Yeah, Canada's cool. I was just in Vancouver. You

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<v Speaker 2>want some funny aout Vancouver?

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in uh. I was on a leg of

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<v Speaker 2>the tour that took me through the Pacific Northwest, and

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot my passport. I was like, oh fuck, So

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<v Speaker 2>I like looked it up online and it's like, you

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<v Speaker 2>can so like legally if you have a like a

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<v Speaker 2>like a true notarized copy of your birth certificate and

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<v Speaker 2>your driver's license, sometimes they'll let you in. But I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have that. I just had I like printed out

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<v Speaker 2>like just a piece of paper from like an email.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom sent me with a copy of my birth

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<v Speaker 2>certificate and my my driver's license, and they they let

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<v Speaker 2>me in. And then I came back to America with

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<v Speaker 2>just that like piece of paper and my driver's license

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<v Speaker 2>and they let me in again. The Canadian border is

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<v Speaker 2>very chill, so I mean you probably I wouldn't risk it.

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<v Speaker 2>If I were you, I wouldn't go out of my

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<v Speaker 2>way to I wouldn't go to I wouldn't go to

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<v Speaker 2>the border of Vancouver and fucking Washington, Oregon, whatever one

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<v Speaker 2>of those states. Why do I not? Why is it

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<v Speaker 2>that I wouldn't. I wouldn't bet my life that I

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<v Speaker 2>know whether Oregon or Washington is this north or in

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<v Speaker 2>most state, It's got to be Washington. It's Washington. Washington

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<v Speaker 2>is above Oregon. Yes, Washington. I wouldn't go to the

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<v Speaker 2>border of Washington in Canada just to see if you

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<v Speaker 2>can do it. But if you if you have to,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're there for whatever reason, and you get a

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<v Speaker 2>nice Canadian guy, he might let you in without a passport.

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<v Speaker 2>You can. You can. You can tell them that you

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<v Speaker 2>heard that on the Therapy Gecko podcast and they'll let

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<v Speaker 2>you in.

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<v Speaker 4>Hell. Hello, Hey, what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up? How you doing? How's life?

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<v Speaker 6>That's all right? How about you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Uh, just another day, just another day. What's

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<v Speaker 2>your name?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Jackson?

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson. What brings you to the Therapy Get Go program today? Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, man. I was just having a bit

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<v Speaker 6>of a of a hard day, but I just got

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<v Speaker 6>that com I'm feeling a bit better. But you're just

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<v Speaker 6>having a weird day with my girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess what's been weird about it?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, basically, we're hanging out today. I'm like about to

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<v Speaker 6>leave to work at a summer camp job, and her

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<v Speaker 6>birthdays on the weekend, so we just like went to

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<v Speaker 6>hang out. We went to like a ceramic place to

0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:30.360
<v Speaker 6>make some pottery and like go for lunch, and basically

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<v Speaker 6>she was just like very upset at me this morning,

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<v Speaker 6>because like right when she woke up, she was just

0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:39.160
<v Speaker 6>like really stressed, and I was like, why are you,

0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:43.199
<v Speaker 6>why are you stressed? Like what's going on? And she

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<v Speaker 6>just like wasn't able to tell me, So I didn't

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<v Speaker 6>really know what to do. And then she was just

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<v Speaker 6>like kind of upset all day that I like wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>able to help with that. And then yeah, she's at

0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 6>work now and we had like a really not great

0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:02.040
<v Speaker 6>conversation about and I just feel kind of weird about

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<v Speaker 6>the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so she her birthdays this weekend. You guys, you

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<v Speaker 2>did a bunch of birthday stuff with her earlier because

0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:11.600
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be out of town for the summer

0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 2>camp job. Uh, she wakes up, she's stressed out, and

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.639
<v Speaker 2>then she's upset at you for you don't really know

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:20.600
<v Speaker 2>why she's upset at you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like she she was just she had like a

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:30.600
<v Speaker 6>rough day at work yesterday and I was like really

0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:32.919
<v Speaker 6>trying to just be there for her last night, but

0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:36.399
<v Speaker 6>I guess this morning, I like didn't quite have the

0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:38.800
<v Speaker 6>energy to give and I was just kind of like

0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:42.920
<v Speaker 6>hoping that she would figure it out and like be okay.

0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.399
<v Speaker 6>And because she just didn't really know like why she

0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:50.760
<v Speaker 6>was stressed, but she was stressed. And then when you

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 6>like kind of ruined the whole birthday day.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess when when you when you say you didn't

0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:58.040
<v Speaker 2>have the energy, you were hoping she would figure it out?

0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.119
<v Speaker 2>What was there? What was there too figure out that

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<v Speaker 2>she needed from you.

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<v Speaker 6>I was trying to figure out why she was stressed.

0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.159
<v Speaker 6>She was telling me she didn't know, but she like

0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 6>wanted me to help. So I was saying, how can

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<v Speaker 6>I help you, and she was saying, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>So then I just was kind of like going back

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<v Speaker 6>to bed. And then we had talked about it later

0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:25.680
<v Speaker 6>because she was just like kind of in a bad

0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:29.200
<v Speaker 6>mood after that, and she was saying, it's like because

0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:33.119
<v Speaker 6>I couldn't like figure out why she was stressed and

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<v Speaker 6>like help her not be stressed. So I think she

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:44.119
<v Speaker 6>wanted me to solve it for her basically, But I

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 6>don't know. That's where I'm like, I don't know what's

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 6>what's going on. Maybe I'm being weird now.

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<v Speaker 2>I have multiple thoughts about this. Okay, tell me how

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:54.440
<v Speaker 2>long you been with this lady.

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<v Speaker 6>We've been together for like a year and two months.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, has anything like this happened before? Or has she

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<v Speaker 2>ever complained about the anything like this before?

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like quite a lot actually at testing.

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 4>Okay, many many.

0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Times it has And what give me like the last

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 2>time it happened? Give me like the recurring situation? What

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 2>does that look like?

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 6>So I guess last night, like she comes home from work,

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.159
<v Speaker 6>she had a rough day, like the just the person

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.160
<v Speaker 6>she was working with was like in a really bad mood.

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 6>So she came home and was like, I had a

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 6>really tough day at work. So I'm like, okay, like

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 6>I'm totally down to like help you feel better or

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.719
<v Speaker 6>just like be here with you sad, And it was

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 6>like working last night, like she felt better and like

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.640
<v Speaker 6>everything was cool. But I think a lot of the time,

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 6>maybe if she has like a bad day or whatever,

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.360
<v Speaker 6>I will like try to come in and be there.

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:56.679
<v Speaker 6>But if like I'm not able to make her feel better,

0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 6>it's like she gets mad. It's me. So it's like

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:05.399
<v Speaker 6>it's almost like I guess to me, I don't know

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 6>if it's actually what's going on, Like I might be

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 6>having some weird process about it, but it feels like

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 6>her whatever is going on in her day just kind

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 6>of like translates into like that I have done something wrong,

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:21.240
<v Speaker 6>and she's.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, it's you knows

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 2>the thing. It's hard to assess. Yeah, so I have

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 2>so many thoughts about this actually, because it's hard to

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:37.919
<v Speaker 2>assess this without like having been in this situation. But

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I might think multiple things. I think, like on your end, right, like, well,

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.119
<v Speaker 2>i'll talk about your end first, I'll talk about her end,

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 2>So on your because you're because your ends more import

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 2>because your ends like what you can control. Right, So

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 2>on your end, it's like if your girlfriend's having a

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 2>bad day, you the whole like, how can I help you?

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:03.439
<v Speaker 2>And she says, I don't. No, obviously you can't be

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 2>a mind reader, but really all you have to do

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 2>is like all she wants from you in that moment

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 2>is just like your presence. Yeah, there is, there's no

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 2>specific thing. I mean, there's sure there's specific things you

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 2>can do to show your presence, but all she wants

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>and you said the way you said, yeah, just now,

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 2>it's like you're not stupid, you know this. She just

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 2>wants your presence, right, She wants your your she wants

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 2>your attention, she wants your presence, and life's hard. Sometimes

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 2>you you don't have it. Sometimes you don't have that

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 2>presence and you sometimes you reach into your brain and

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:42.439
<v Speaker 2>it's fucking insufficient funds and that sucks. I've been a

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:46.439
<v Speaker 2>billion situations, you know, personal and professional where uh, you know,

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.679
<v Speaker 2>my presence was required and it just was I just

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:52.479
<v Speaker 2>had insufficient funds for that presence in my brain. And

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 2>that sucks, you know. I think it's it's what you

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 2>want to do is just try to Again, You're not stupid.

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.120
<v Speaker 2>You know this that that all she wants is your presence, right,

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 2>So I'm sure you tried as hard as you can

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 2>to uh give her that presence. So but then on

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 2>her side and it's I you know, I'm not talking

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 2>to her, I'm talking to you. But on her side,

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 2>it's like you gotta communicate and you can't just like

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 2>go A to B you really can't. Just like it's

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:28.640
<v Speaker 2>not fair for her to take out her stress on you,

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Like you're trying to help as far as I know,

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know what the situation is. I

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know what you're doing. I don't know what it

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:35.679
<v Speaker 2>looks like. But you sound like a nice guy. You

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 2>sound like, you care about this lady. You sound like

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to give her your best presence, And in

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 2>that moment, it's like it's she can't just take out

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 2>her stress on you because like you're trying to you're

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to help her. As far as I know, you're

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>trying to help her, You're trying to be there.

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 6>So I just want it's like it's.

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so it sucks that she's like taken out

0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 2>on you. It's like, why are you taking it out

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 2>on me? I'm trying to help you. So yeah, I mean,

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 2>what when you bring this up to her? Like what

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 2>does she say? How do these conversations go.

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 6>Like when I bring up the dynamic.

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Or yeah, when I bring up the dynamic and when

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 2>you're like, well you're you know.

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 6>Well, honestly, man, I think she's really great at coming

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 6>back and I can tell she's really reflected and she'll

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 6>come back and be like, hey, I'm really sorry about

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 6>my reaction. I really want to work on you know,

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 6>how I react when I'm stressed and how I deal

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 6>with my stress. It's not fair to put it on you.

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 6>I guess. I guess it's just like recurred. I feel

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 6>like kind of the whole time we've been together. So

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 6>now I'm at the point where I'm like, maybe we

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 6>need to change our strategy and the like talking about

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 6>it isn't.

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 4>What's helping.

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Interesting? What do you when you say you want to

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 2>change the strategy? What is what do you mean by that?

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.239
<v Speaker 6>I guess it feels more like you can you can

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 6>only do so much talking with somebody. But I think

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 6>what changes things is actually acting differently. So I guess

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 6>it just feels maybe like a miss match in expectations,

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 6>Like she just expects are going to act a certain way,

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.959
<v Speaker 6>and like as much as I want to try to

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 6>act in that way, I just like can't do it

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 6>exactly how she's expecting. Yeah, So that's where I'm like,

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 6>do I just keep trying to like change it slightly

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 6>or do I have to, Like, I just really want

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 6>things to work with her? And I know the other

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 6>option is just to like be like, I'll find somebody else,

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 6>but I care about this person, and I just I

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 6>guess I just don't want to keep doing the same

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 6>thing if it's not working. Ah.

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not an ex but you know it's I've been

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 2>in little situations that remind me of this and it

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 2>my you know, my my, my gut thing that I

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 2>would that I my gut feeling that I have a

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>better situation like this is that like you know, you've

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>tried to like over the years, to like talk it through,

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>communicate yourself. She over and over she said, And you

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>know you've tried to do what's best on your We

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:40.959
<v Speaker 2>already talked about your end, which is like being present

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 2>and shit. And then on her end, it's like she's

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 2>trying to not take out her stress on you. And

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 2>she's told you that she's trying to not take her

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 2>stress out on you, and and then she'll get upset

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 2>and then she'll come back and be like, I'm sorry,

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I got upset, and then you'll you know, you'll kind

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 2>of break and rec and being and break and reconvene.

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 2>But but you're not noticed. But what I'm hearing is

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 2>you're not noticing over time that the issue is improving,

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 2>but that it's just stagnant. So so this is one

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>of those situations where if you feel like something is

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 2>not uh getting better, it's probably likely I mean, if

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 2>you feel like something's not getting better, there does come

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 2>a point where like you should I think you should

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 2>always keep trying, you should always keep letting yourself be known.

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 2>But they're kind of comes a point where you have

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 2>to like look at a person and and and uh

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 2>be like, you know what, this is not gonna improve

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>or not not that let's say this not necessarily that

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 2>this is not going to improve, but that in order

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 2>to continue, you have to accept a reality where it

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>does not improve, you know what I mean, Not say oh, oh,

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 2>this is never gonna change, this person's ever gonna change,

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 2>but accept the fact that they totally might never change.

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>And if you really love this person, if you feel

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 2>really compatible with this person, if you really like this

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:22.719
<v Speaker 2>relationship to move forward, there does have to be some

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 2>form of acceptance where you're like, you know, I'm willing

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 2>to like, okay, I'm willing to stay, but staying involves

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 2>accepting that this thing is gonna uh may not ever

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>fucking change, and that everything else around it is so

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>is good enough that I'm okay with this or you leave,

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 2>But you sound like you want to work it out.

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, for sure, No, I totally get what you're saying. Yeah,

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 6>at some point, you do just have to accept somebody

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 6>how they are and like they're showing you how they're

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 6>gonna be. And I do think after a certain point

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 6>you can maybe like hope for change as much as

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 6>you want, but it is I think it does add

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 6>more frustration where there doesn't need to be. I think,

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.719
<v Speaker 6>like trying to change somebody else really doesn't work. Ever,

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 6>so I don't know, I see what you're saying. Man,

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 6>for sure, Yeah.

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't work. But there's also yeah, I mean everything

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I said is that it doesn't work, but you should

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 2>also you should, but you should keep letting yourself be

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 2>known and like keep communicating. It gets exhausting, but yeah,

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 2>it's like the reality, the real it gets exhausted. But

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 2>the reality is like when someone kind of shows you

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 2>that they're not going to change over a long period

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 2>of time, they're basically telling you, like, you know, hey,

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>take it or take it or leave it. And by

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 2>the way, for sure, like and by the way, man,

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, on your end, it's like what the fuck

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 2>it's situation. There's probably a lot of things where it's

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>like she has to look at you and accept that

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna change. You know. That's yeah, it's tough, man,

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Sorry what I said. Yeah, it's tough man.

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I just every time I've gotten in a relationship,

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 6>it just feels like I'm immediately a burden with like

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 6>you have to now choose if you're gonna stay our lead,

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 6>whereas like if you're simply you don't have that decision,

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 6>and like I want to be with one person going

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 6>forward to my life. But I guess just like that

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 6>pressure of like are you gonna stay, you're gonna go

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 6>is just like so hard to deal with because I

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 6>also just want to focus on my own life and

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 6>like the ship I got going on outside of a relationship,

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 6>So I don't think thinking about a relationship all the

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 6>time is like beneficial, but like I'd like to be

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 6>in one.

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not listen, I'll be honest, I'm not

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>like a relationship expert. There is a part of me

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 2>that there because there's another part of me that believes that, like,

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, the right relationship. I don't know if I

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 2>don't know the more I get into things, I don't

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 2>know if there is like such a binary of right

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 2>and wrong relationship, But there is a part of it.

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 2>There's a philosophy for me that goes, like you know,

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 2>if you're in the right relationship, then you're not always

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 2>thinking if you should stay or if you should leave. Right.

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, maybe it's just like kind of working out. I

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 6>don't know, man, there's.

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 2>A big part of me that feels that way too,

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>that if you're in there is a big part of

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 2>me that does feel like in terms of like chasing

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 2>your alignment in your life, that like the things that

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 2>you're because I audit my life a lot, and I think, like,

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>what am I? What am I like sure of? Like

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 2>there's certain aspects of my life, certain people in my life,

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 2>certain things where I'm like, I'm one hundred percent sure

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 2>about that. I don't waste time thinking about that. And

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 2>there's tons of things in my life where I'm like,

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like that takescept a lot of my time thinking

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 2>should I or shouldn't I? And there's a part of

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 2>it and I don't want to I'd be a hypocrite

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 2>if I told you that. I'm really good at always

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 2>going with this guttural response. But there's a part of

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 2>me that feels like if you have to go, oh,

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 2>should I or shouldn't I, then it is a sign

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 2>of of misalignment. But I don't have the wisdom yet

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 2>to say if if I believe that's to be true.

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think everybody kind of struggles with that, like

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 6>forever pretty much. I don't know if you can really

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:44.320
<v Speaker 6>answer that question.

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I want to do the science on it.

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 2>I keep thinking, I'm like, i should take like in

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>my life audit. So I'm like, I should. I want

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 2>to live a life where I'm like a full body

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 2>yes to everything, But I don't know if that's a fantasy.

0:35:58.200 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:04.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think I just want to feel excited about

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 5>the decisions I'm making, you know. I want to wake

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 5>up every day kind of being like, maybe everything's not perfect,

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 5>but I'm excited about the choices I'm making and like

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 5>the possibility of the choices I get to make today.

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 6>But I don't know if that's like realistic. Like I

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 6>feel like a lot of days I wake up and

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 6>I'm like I just kind of have to do what

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 6>I have to do. But I don't know if that's

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 6>like the way to live life.

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 2>You know. Well, I hope you figure it out, man, Thank.

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 4>You, thank you.

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 6>I was getting to dis respectful. I'm sorry.

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean that's what this whole stupid uh I

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 2>think that's what the whole thing is is. Maybe it's

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 2>not what the whole thing is, but uh no, I

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 2>don't think you've I don't think you've gotten too introspective.

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:53.959
<v Speaker 2>This is a comple This has nothing to do with anything.

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 2>But have you ever had the new This is not

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 2>an AD. This is just I'm just thinking about this

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.839
<v Speaker 2>right now. There's nothing to do with anything we talked about.

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 2>It's not an AD. But like, have you ever ever

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 2>had the dude? I just had the popped caramel Eminem's?

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever had those?

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 6>I've had the pop Skittles and there you've had the

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 6>pop Skittles.

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, the pop Skittles? Okay, So I so, dude, freeze

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 2>dried candy is a huge thing all over the place now.

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I keep seeing it everywhere and I've never I've only

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 2>seen it with fruity candies. This eminem ship, it's the

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 2>only time I've seen it with like a chocolate candy.

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 2>It's up there with it might be one of the

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 2>best candies I've ever had in my life.

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 6>It's really period.

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Like well, first of all, it like, well, it is

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 2>not an AD. I'm just thinking about that the like

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 2>so like one caramel eminem it's so dense right when

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 2>you kind of eat it and it's gone, But when

0:37:56.560 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 2>they pop it, the density is is uh bigger. So

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 2>it feels like you're getting more out of the same

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 2>amount of the thing because it's like it's all popped

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and then the texture is a lot more.

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 2>It's like crunchy and still CARAMELI you know, isn't.

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 6>It more intensity or like you get a longer lasting experience, You.

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Get a longer lasting experience, Yeah, because I could. Yeah,

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 2>you get a longer last nit you get more out

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 2>of less. I would say, I think a bag of

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 2>popped caramel eminems will last me longer than just a

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:42.839
<v Speaker 2>bag of like the regular ones. They're better than you've

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>never had caramel, that's not have you ever had M

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 2>and ms?

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but I feel like I've only seen the peanut

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 6>butter eminems. I don't know if I've ever even seen

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 6>a bag of caramel eminem's in my life.

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 2>They only have the popped version of the caramel ones.

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the only eminem that they've popped. But I am

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 2>open to them popping more. I don't know what the

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 2>science is behind freeze drying shit and popping shit. I

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:07.879
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I can buy a freeze dryer off

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:09.959
<v Speaker 2>of Amazon. Let me know I can. I I'm gonna

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 2>if I can buy a freeze dry I'm gonna sure.

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 6>I feel like you can't for sure?

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 4>Like what would be the first thing that you would

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 4>freeze dry to pump?

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 6>Oh?

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I would pop a Nerds gummy clusters. I was gonna

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 2>say that I've popped oh, But I don't think. I

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 2>don't think the texture of them is conducive to popping

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 2>and freeze drying.

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 6>I feel like if you can pop a skittle and

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 6>a caramel eminem, that's such a wide range of ingredients

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 6>that I feel like you could pomp anything. Like I'm

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 6>no candy genius, but I'm just thinking.

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 2>What's your name again?

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 6>That's Jackson?

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Jackson. I hope you figure out all that stuff with

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 2>your girlfriend too.

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 6>Thank you much. I appreciate that.

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything else you want to say to the

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 2>people of the computer before we go?

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 6>I love the podcast listening to a lot, and yeah,

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 6>thanks for chatting with.

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Me, beautiful yet blessed man. Thank you very much for

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 2>calling and Sharon, good.

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 6>Luck, Okay, I have a good one.

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Man, man. I hope our caller figures it out. I'm

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 2>curious in the comments when people think about his his dilemma,

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 2>because I I'm Yeah, we've been talking a lot about

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 2>relationships on the podcast for a bit, and uh, I

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 2>mean with all things in life, it's like, yeah, everyone's

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 2>trying to chase like alignment, you know, and I don't know.

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think perfect alignment part of me things perfect

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 2>alignment in life is like a myth, you know.

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 6>But.

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 2>It could it could be possible. Maybe it's just me

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>being me. Hello, Hello, is this Zeus?

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Is this the get Go?

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is the Gecko and this is Zeus.

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Dude, Helia, I am Zeus. You are the gek Zeus.

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 2>You texted me and you said you said that you

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>are a caver and you go deep into underground caves

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 2>for fun.

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:23.799
<v Speaker 6>I do.

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 4>I do those things now.

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 2>That is one of those things that I think is insane.

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, as I've been doing it over the years,

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 4>I also think it's insane.

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've seen that photo of that fucking you know.

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't even the guy what's his name? You know,

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 2>the photo I'm talking.

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:48.720
<v Speaker 4>About, Yeah, I forget his name. That was a nutty

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 4>putty cave.

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Nutty putty cave. You've seen that photo, right, So you

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 2>tell me you see that photo and you're still like,

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm down to risk that shit.

0:41:57.040 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 4>Well, I personally don't go ahead first down holes. That's

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:03.919
<v Speaker 4>just a personal preference of mind.

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:09.839
<v Speaker 2>But that's what caving like the cave do you Like?

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what caving is, right, It's going into unexplored caves

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and fucking around and trying not to get stuck. Right.

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 4>Uh, yeah, certain parts of it for sure. Yeah, you

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.919
<v Speaker 4>definitely don't want to get stuck or have a rock

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 4>fall on you that kind of tings you into place

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:28.280
<v Speaker 4>that's uh, those are not good things.

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.280
<v Speaker 2>So what is the process of the kind of caving

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:32.839
<v Speaker 2>that you do.

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, a lot of people when when they think of caving,

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 4>they think of like what you're thinking of is just

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 4>going into really tight spaces and stuff. But like, there's

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 4>a whole plethora of caves across the country where you know,

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 4>you may be walking the entire time, you may be swimming,

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 4>you may bring a boat, you may be doing a

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 4>mix of all of those things. You may you may

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 4>be going into really confined spaces with water. You know,

0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 4>it's a kind of a broad spectrum of what you

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 4>can do underground. You can even do rope access and

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:07.760
<v Speaker 4>do the SRT and ride ropes down huge pits.

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 2>But do you ever get freaked out that you're going

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 2>to die like all the other people that died.

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 4>I have never felt that way. I've never felt like

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 4>I was going to die in a cave. But you've

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 4>always got the possibility of like a loose rock falling

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 4>on you, especially if there's a slope into a pit

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 4>and you're on ropes, your rope could adjust and a

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 4>rock could fall on you. And that, to me, that's

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.919
<v Speaker 4>one of the most dangerous hazards that I faced rock fall.

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 2>What is the coolest cave that you've seen?

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to say the name of it, but

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 4>there's this epic cave in Tennessee where approximately.

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Wait, why would I say the name? Why would you

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:59.760
<v Speaker 2>say the name to the cave? Is it a private.

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 4>It's on private property. You don't want to you don't

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 4>want to harass private property owners, and you also don't

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 4>want to increase traffic because caving is kind of a

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:13.320
<v Speaker 4>conservation minded thing, you know, like it's leave no trace,

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.240
<v Speaker 4>you leave nothing, but for footprints and take nothing but pictures.

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 4>So if you increase traffic to the cave, then it

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 4>just gets torn apart, basically. And if the public knew

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 4>about it, then they're gonna want to go in there

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 4>and not know what they're getting into and spray paint

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:28.720
<v Speaker 4>and leave trash and stuff.

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, tell me about this cave.

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Yeah, it's like a two hundred and sixty

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 4>foot waterfall repel. You cave for about two hours and

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 4>it's mostly walking stream passage. You're up to your waist

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 4>to your chest and water most of the way, and

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:44.840
<v Speaker 4>then it breaks through this layer of limestone and drops

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.800
<v Speaker 4>two hundred and sixty feet up and you're about fifteen

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 4>feet away from this raging waterfall. And when I did it,

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 4>my buddy had one of those massive like diving lights,

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 4>and that can light up a whole massive room, and

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 4>so I went over the lip of this pit and

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 4>the whole waterfall was lit up, and it was just

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 4>the most incredible thing I've ever seen. And that ride

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 4>down and climb up was one of the coolest experiences

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 4>I've ever had. I love that.

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 2>And and you just like broke into this guy's house

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 2>and went into his cave, like this is where had

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:20.280
<v Speaker 2>you find this cave?

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.359
<v Speaker 4>We had permission, We had talked to him prior and

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 4>gave us a day and a time to show up

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 4>and go visit his cave. It's a very massive cave.

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:32.240
<v Speaker 4>We only sorry.

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 2>How'd you know that he has a cave?

0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 4>Through the grottos in the local area. You can get

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 4>property access through people in the grottos. Grottos are caving

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 4>clubs that are mainly across the southeast, but they're all

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.879
<v Speaker 4>over the country. They're just caving clubs where people who

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 4>like crawling around in caves can meet other cavers and

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 4>go explore.

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:56.760
<v Speaker 2>How does it feel when you're in the cave?

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 4>To me, it feels he it's you know, there's no

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:07.799
<v Speaker 4>self service, it's it's dark, it's quiet, it's some kind

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:09.759
<v Speaker 4>of relaxing. You just dress a little warm, and you

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 4>dress for your environment and try to prepare because there's

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 4>no help for you down there. If if something out

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 4>that happens, you know, I I find peace in it.

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 4>That's how I feel.

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>What's the scariest thing you've encountered in one of the caves?

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Ooh, good question. I've had rocks fall on me a

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 4>couple of times, nothing major, mostly just little pebbles and

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 4>stuff like maybe a little bit about the size of

0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 4>my fist. I had one hit me in a thigh

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 4>pretty bad and left a big bruise. What I think

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 4>what scares me the most and what I think about

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:50.919
<v Speaker 4>the most is when you get on ropes and we're

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 4>all we're all down there for fun, we're all trying

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 4>to have a good time, and we're all hobbyists, and

0:46:56.680 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people don't really have extremely good vertical skills,

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 4>and that's okay, but it's scary when something happens and

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 4>they potentially become stuck on rope or can enter an

0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 4>uncontrolled repel on rope. So there are ways to medicate that.

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 4>But I think I think that's the scariest thing to

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 4>me is not necessarily knowing the skills of my partners

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 4>doing the activity.

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 2>M okay, So it's not being able to have a

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:25.799
<v Speaker 2>crew that you.

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 4>Trust sometimes yeah, yeah, most of the time a cave

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 4>with some very experienced cavers and we all know what

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 4>we're doing, and even then things can still happen, for sure.

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 2>How about creatures, you see any crazy creatures? Critters?

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, okay, thousands of bats. They're really cool environments

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 4>because a lot of the creatures in the cave are

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 4>cave adapted, so they only live down there. So tons

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 4>of salamanders. In my area Tennessee, we have this salamander

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 4>called the Tennessee Cave salamander, and it's it's only a

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 4>very small area that they live in, but they're really

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 4>cool and they're quad. They swim around. They have these

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:06.799
<v Speaker 4>huge red gills, kind of like an ax A lottel. Yeah.

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 4>Tons of crayfish, like cave adapted crayfish. There's cavefish that

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 4>are white. The crayfish are also white. A bunch of

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:19.879
<v Speaker 4>different baths. I'm always scared that I'm gonna turn around

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 4>the corner and see like a horny female, but bigfoot

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:24.919
<v Speaker 4>that's gonna kidnap me. That's always be in my big

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:25.720
<v Speaker 4>fear of underground.

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people that's their fantasy.

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:31.959
<v Speaker 4>Well it's not my fantasy, it's a fear of mine.

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 2>So, uh, what do you do outside of caving?

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.360
<v Speaker 4>Outside of caving, I do a lot of fishing, hiking.

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 4>I work in rope access and work on wind turbines,

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 4>repair the blades on them. We repel off those giant

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:50.560
<v Speaker 4>death machines.

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Wind turbines, so you're just constantly around things that can

0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:57.319
<v Speaker 2>kill you.

0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:01.879
<v Speaker 4>I'm more scared of the wind turbines than I am

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 4>of the cave, to be fair.

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, right right, literally, sorry, go ahead, no, you go ahead.

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 4>A wind turbine is literally a giant machine that is

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 4>designed to kill you. That's that's we say that in

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:20.880
<v Speaker 4>safety meetings all the time and keep it in the

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 4>back of your head at all times. You're around a

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 4>bunch of moving parts and they're you know, they're they're generators,

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 4>they're electrical machines, so you've got to be very cautious

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:32.280
<v Speaker 4>with how you approach and treat those those things.

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.520
<v Speaker 2>You think more people have gotten killed by wind turbines

0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:36.360
<v Speaker 2>or by caves?

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:41.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh, another good question. I I don't have an answer

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 4>for you. A lot of people have died in caves.

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 4>There have been several people that have died on win tournaments.

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 4>I would say probably caves, but I don't have a

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:54.359
<v Speaker 4>factual answer to tell you. That's my my opinion. If

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 4>I had to.

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Guess, zeus before we go, give me, give me the

0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:01.440
<v Speaker 2>dream cave. Where's the cave where you're like, I've always

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 2>wanted to look and see what's inside of this particular cave.

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 4>The dream cave, I think a good multi drop cave.

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 4>So it's like you repel in and you do some

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 4>horizontal caving and it goes the trip is down, and

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 4>we'll also do it. Let's make it a pull down

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 4>cave to where when you go into the cave and

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 4>you repel down to your first level, you pull the

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 4>rope down behind you, and once you do that, you're

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 4>committed to going to the bottom. So there is going

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 4>to be a second entrance, at least one, and it's

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:41.800
<v Speaker 4>going to be beautiful through the whole way. Lots of formations,

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 4>lots of critters, lots of like salamanders and cave adapted

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 4>life through the passages and water. Water caves are a

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 4>lot of fun when when you're repelling next to the

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 4>waterfall and crawling through water or even walking or waiting

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:02.680
<v Speaker 4>through it. I think that's my perfect mix of caves.

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Wait, well, I guess I'm looking for a specific cave

0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 2>like a white wolf a white whale cave where you're like,

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I want to go to the you know, deep in

0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:14.280
<v Speaker 2>fucking China or wherever, Like, is there a specific cave

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 2>that you want to go see.

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:18.840
<v Speaker 4>A specific cave, probably let you gia. It's been closed

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 4>the cavers for a long time. If you're not a researcher,

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:22.120
<v Speaker 4>let your gia.

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 2>How does one Because if you're not a researcher, but

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.759
<v Speaker 2>aren't you, I mean you're a researcher. You're what's it

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 2>really take to be if you're going into the cave

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 2>to look at shit? That's researching, right, You don't need

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:36.319
<v Speaker 2>a piece of paper to say you're yeah.

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 4>So like I do map caves. I I make my

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 4>own maps and publish them through a caving club. But

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 4>like they're looking for more people who have like who

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 4>can study animals like cave adapted life, or study the geology,

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.800
<v Speaker 4>or study like why this cave the way it is is?

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:00.120
<v Speaker 4>Why is this cave the way it is? You know know,

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:04.240
<v Speaker 4>like so like the average caver doesn't typically get permission

0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:06.560
<v Speaker 4>to go visit the bottom of letagee and see all

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 4>the cool stuff.

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Why is this cave the way it is? It's profound

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:12.840
<v Speaker 2>good question.

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 4>I think that all the time.

0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Zeus, Is there anything else you want to say to

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:20.440
<v Speaker 2>the people of the computer before we go?

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 6>Uh?

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:28.439
<v Speaker 2>I love you get Thank you Zeus. I wish you

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:34.640
<v Speaker 2>good tiding. I'm gonna manifest that you have good cave

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 2>experiences for the rest of your life.

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:39.720
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Gek. I'll try to stay safe.

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:46.799
<v Speaker 2>See see Zeus, Zeus, see a Zeus, see you.

0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:52.479
<v Speaker 2>I hope that God is okay in the caves. Man.

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't fuck around in caves, man, but I guess

0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 2>someone has to. I guess someone's got to see what's

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:02.759
<v Speaker 2>going on in those caves. We thank Zeus for being

0:53:02.800 --> 0:53:06.239
<v Speaker 2>that's someone who from Alexia.

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Hello, Oh my god, Hello, Hi.

0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:10.799
<v Speaker 2>What's your name?

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 3>My name is Alexia.

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 2>What's up, Alexia? How's life? Life is good?

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm standing in the middle of the forest right now.

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 2>You're standing in the middle of the forest. Yeah, what

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:24.880
<v Speaker 2>are you doing in the middle of the forest.

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm actually at work. I do feel botany, so I'm

0:53:27.960 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 3>like hiding plants and measuring trees and shit.

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh cool. How how tall was the last tree that

0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:34.400
<v Speaker 2>you measured?

0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, we measure the diameter, so I don't know, is

0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:40.839
<v Speaker 3>maybe like a diameter of twenty.

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Five a diameter of twenty five?

0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean like sometimes we measure the height, but

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:50.560
<v Speaker 3>we're usually doing uh width for it.

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you think trees are important people?

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:56.919
<v Speaker 3>I do think trees are important to people, seeing as

0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 3>we can't really like breathe without oxygen.

0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:04.719
<v Speaker 2>That's true. I was gonna ask why you think trees

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:07.960
<v Speaker 2>are important? But that's good. But this this does make

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:11.120
<v Speaker 2>sense the whole but the whole thing of trees providing oxygen.

0:54:11.239 --> 0:54:15.959
<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm in a city and there's like two

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 2>trees in the whole city and everyone's breathing. Fine, you

0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 2>know does that How does that work?

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 4>Well?

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 3>I think the idea is that like all the trees

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 3>on the planet like dispersed the oxygen because there's something

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:31.840
<v Speaker 3>like I don't know, this is like totally made up maybe,

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:36.240
<v Speaker 3>but like the Amazon rainforest provides like some big percent

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.440
<v Speaker 3>of oxygen for the whole planet. So I don't know.

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I think it just spreads around.

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Alexia is was there a particular thing that you wanted

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 2>to talk about today?

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:51.920
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean I just saw the you posted on

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:55.280
<v Speaker 3>your Instagram. I probably have had like a thousand things

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:59.640
<v Speaker 3>that I've wanted to say in the past, but uh no,

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm just a chilling right now.

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 2>And how long do you have? How long do you

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 2>how long do you have until you have to get

0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 2>off the phone and go do tree stuff.

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:17.799
<v Speaker 3>Well it's lunch now, so my timeline is pretty free.

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 3>I think we have like a cool schedule. So we

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:22.280
<v Speaker 3>just kind of come out here and like fallock around

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:24.960
<v Speaker 3>for a while and then go back to the office.

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 6>So it's chill.

0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Is there. So okay, So you have like an actual

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:34.720
<v Speaker 2>office that you work out of too, it's not just yeah.

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, it's like fun we do. So we do like,

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 3>uh like forest assessments for like military land, like soldiers

0:55:44.200 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 3>come out here and train and then we come through

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:49.319
<v Speaker 3>and see like how bad they messed it up or

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 3>like how like if they can go back to the spot.

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not totally sure. I just take all the data

0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 3>for it. My boss does whatever else with it.

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:03.960
<v Speaker 2>And do you ever see any cool animals while you're

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:04.879
<v Speaker 2>doing it? Oh?

0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we see. So I'm in Alaska and it's actually

0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:11.279
<v Speaker 3>interesting because I've heard recently that you've had a lot

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:14.360
<v Speaker 3>of callers in Alaska, but you don't they don't seem

0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:17.640
<v Speaker 3>to be interior. I live in Fairbanks in the interior.

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 2>What does that mean? Interior? Exterior?

0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 3>So like the exterior is anywhere like around the coast

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:29.720
<v Speaker 3>or like I don't know, maybe like one hundred miles

0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:34.360
<v Speaker 3>in from the coast, and then the interior is maybe

0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 3>like because there's like a mountain range that borders the coast,

0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:41.480
<v Speaker 3>and I think the interior is considered inside the mountain range.

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 3>So I'm in, like I'm in like central eastern Alaska.

0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I want to go. I'm going to Alaska. I have

0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:52.799
<v Speaker 2>a show there in October. I'm gonna probably do.

0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:56.359
<v Speaker 3>Some I know, I'm literally signed up for the I'm

0:56:56.480 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 3>signed up for the thing. Hell yeah, yeah, yeah, you

0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:00.960
<v Speaker 3>know the thing.

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you have anyh go ahead? Go ahead?

0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:10.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh sorry, yeah, Well everyone from Fairbanks has to go

0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:12.880
<v Speaker 3>to Anchorage for like events and stuff, and it's like

0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 3>six hour drive. So I'm pretty stoked for that. It's

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:19.760
<v Speaker 3>gonna be fun. I think if you get the chance,

0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 3>you should come to Fairbanks. Although it's October so there's

0:57:22.360 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 3>probably not a lot happening, I you know.

0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:27.840
<v Speaker 2>I to me, when people say like, oh, there's not

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:32.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot happening because it's you know, X month, I

0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 2>never I never like when people say that, because it's like,

0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:39.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, listen, there's some The main attractions of any

0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 2>place to me are like, you know, just some fucking

0:57:42.320 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 2>guy walking around, you know, and everywhere you know, I'm

0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 2>whatever the weather, whatever the time, everywhere in the world,

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:54.600
<v Speaker 2>there's always just you know, some fucking guy walking around

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<v Speaker 2>eating something, and I want to talk to that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't, like, I don't always people do this

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<v Speaker 2>thing about the weather where it's like, why would you

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<v Speaker 2>go there in that weather? And it's like, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, it's not why do I I just the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that like you always have to travel to a

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<v Speaker 2>place when the weather is perfect. I resent that.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're totally right, honestly, And you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>there's so many like crazy people here, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>that you'd have a great time if you got to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to some people on the street.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>People keep telling me that about Alaska, that there's uh

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<v Speaker 2>because it's either it's either always really dark or really sunny.

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<v Speaker 3>Right yeah, like right now we have like twenty well

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<v Speaker 3>it's almost twenty four hours of daylight. Solstice is next

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<v Speaker 3>whoa really really yeah, Like it's really hard to go

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<v Speaker 3>to bed at night because it's just like sunshine out

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<v Speaker 3>all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA, Okay, I know I just made that whole stink

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<v Speaker 2>about the weather thing. But I would like to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds very no.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's like the highlight is like we we Alaskan,

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<v Speaker 3>We really like to tell people to come up here

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<v Speaker 3>during the summer so they can get to see the

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<v Speaker 3>midnight sun. It's really cool. But you know winter is

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<v Speaker 3>really cool too, is Yeah, I will would recommend ten

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<v Speaker 3>out of ten in.

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<v Speaker 2>October is it fully dark?

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<v Speaker 3>So October it's like so like the solstice and the

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<v Speaker 3>summer is June twentieth, and then the equinoxes December twenty

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<v Speaker 3>fifth or something, so that's like the lightest and then

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<v Speaker 3>the darkest day of the year. So October is like

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<v Speaker 3>kind of in between. I feel like October would be

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<v Speaker 3>like a typical daylight cycle for like in the lower forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight Alexia, Yeah, is there anything you want to say

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<v Speaker 2>to the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to say, thanks for picking up and

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<v Speaker 3>peace and love.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Alexia, have a good rest of your entire life.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes on line, thank you calls every night.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything goes to and his eye's.

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<v Speaker 2>Teaching you to a house of your life. But he's

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<v Speaker 2>not really an expert.