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Speaker 1: It is our favorite BPA of the year, the best

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Speaker 1: twenty four season. And to break it all down, the

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Speaker 1: voice of your Cleveland Browns, Jim donnov enjoins us. Jim,

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Speaker 1: appreciate a few minutes as we get ready here to

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Speaker 1: embark on another season. And I want a big picture

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Speaker 1: thought from you on this schedule. I can tell you

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Speaker 1: that the schedule maker clearly did not get the great

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Speaker 1: bottle of bourbon I sent over, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: how many favors he really did for us here in

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Speaker 1: the season.

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Speaker 2: It's good to be with you. This is a tradition

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Speaker 2: and it is it's a fun time. I mean, people

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Speaker 2: love anticipate when the schedule comes out. How are they

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Speaker 2: to open up the season? How many primetime games do

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Speaker 2: they have? You know, for all of us that are

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Speaker 2: sit at the edge of the seats when the schedule

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Speaker 2: comes up because they're saying, what about the holidays. Where

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Speaker 2: are you around Thanksgiving? Where are you around Christmas? Where

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Speaker 2: things get thrown in. But yeah, as you take a

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Speaker 2: long look at the schedule, Jason, right away, you would

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Speaker 2: have to say that the Browns will have a pretty

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Speaker 2: three or four weeks into the season, because they're going

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Speaker 2: to bump right in to the Bengals, Steelers, and Ravens

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Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it. But it's going to be very,

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Speaker 2: very imperative that you find yourself in a good fit

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Speaker 2: at that early point of the season. That's the first

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Speaker 2: thing that really comes out and hit you as you

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Speaker 2: take a look at the season. You're not gonna have

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Speaker 2: to wait a long time, and some years you do,

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Speaker 2: but not this year. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There have been years where we didn't play really a

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Speaker 1: not be the case here in twenty twenty three. With that,

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Speaker 1: I know the fan base is ready. Let's break down

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three twenty four schedule and we will

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Speaker 1: kick it off breaking down the first four games of

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Speaker 1: it's a good thing on September tenth, and it's a

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a wow game, There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: When you have a wow game and you anticipate when

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Speaker 2: Normally like to see that a little bit later for

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Speaker 2: out for you, Jason, because the Browns are not going

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Speaker 1: It'll be a one o'clock game under the sunshine, knock

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Speaker 1: It's a trip to Pittsburgh, and boy it's the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Monday Night football Week two in Pittsburgh eight point fifteen.

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Speaker 1: It'll be on ABC, Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, all the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're at the point for the Brons where

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Speaker 2: That's when we'll know we have arrived. Now. I know

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. So two AFC North games first two weeks of

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Speaker 1: I don't know who their quarterback's going to be at

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Speaker 2: On with head coach Mike Vrabel and company. No, he

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Speaker 1: Onward, the week four we go and a date with

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Speaker 1: it's technically October first, so by October first, we will

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this game. For a long period of time this

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Speaker 2: offseason looked very, very different because of the Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so your first four games Bengals at home one

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Speaker 1: TV network side of things. Unfortunately, the one thing that

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Speaker 1: And I think the other game is a trip to Seattle.

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Speaker 2: at what they did in the draft. They moved around

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Speaker 2: to accumulate things, you know, giving up the first pick

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Speaker 2: justin fields. We've seen him a couple of times, once

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Speaker 2: in a regular season game his first start, which was awful,

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Speaker 2: but I have to tell you I blame that on

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Speaker 2: Matt Nagy. Remember, Jason Matt Dage gave him just a

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Speaker 2: brutal game plan that day. That's when Miles Garrett had

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Speaker 2: all those sacks. And then we played him in the

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Speaker 2: preseason last year when there was a lot of doubt

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Speaker 2: coming into the game about him, and he lit the

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Speaker 2: Browns defense up on that Saturday night that we played them.

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Speaker 2: That was the the last preseason game, and I think

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Speaker 2: they had a better feel for him going into the

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Speaker 2: regular season after that. But it will be interesting to

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Speaker 2: see what the Bears are.

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Speaker 1: Like, no question, final three games of the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, good news. We will be in a dome stadium.

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Speaker 1: It will not be twenty five below zero. We will

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Speaker 1: be in the great city of Houston, Texas on Christmas

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Speaker 1: Eve at one o'clock. And then well it's a very

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Speaker 1: very short week. Thursday Night Football and with it Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers and the New York Football Jets for an eight

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Speaker 1: to fifteen tilt.

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Speaker 2: You go Houston on.

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, you get Christmas Day to catch your breath,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll kiss my wife on Monday night, Christmas

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Speaker 1: Night and tell her I'll see your Friday morning at

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Speaker 1: about three in the morning. It's it is a full uh,

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Speaker 1: full steam ahead as the Jets come to town for

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football and then the final game of this

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Speaker 1: regular season. It is in Cincinnati against the AFC North

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Speaker 1: defending champion Cincinnati Bengals. Game Day and time to be determined,

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Speaker 1: but it'll be that first weekend in January. Quite the

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Speaker 1: challenge here for the Cleveland Browns as they wrap up

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Speaker 1: the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think our Christmas Eve it will be a

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Speaker 2: much different scenario than we were when we were in

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Speaker 2: Houston last season. They were awful, and you know, they

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Speaker 2: were a mess. And now they've got the new coach,

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Speaker 2: tomko Ryan's is in there, and they've got the draft pick,

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Speaker 2: you know, CJ. Stroud is in there. They've they've used

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Speaker 2: those those draft choices, so that that will be fascinating

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Speaker 2: to see. But I think they'll be in a much

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Speaker 2: better direction than they were last year, where a lot

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Speaker 2: of people you know, just and of course remember that

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Speaker 2: was Deshaun Watson's first game back and certainly, wow, what

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Speaker 2: a game to go back into the place that he

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Speaker 2: wanted to leave, which was Houston. I don't think there'll

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Speaker 2: be any more of that dynamic. I think it will

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Speaker 2: be all football, but I think we'll have a much

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Speaker 2: more I would think Jason a much more competitive Texans

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Speaker 2: team than we saw last year. Wow, the Jets Thursday

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Speaker 2: night game, that could be a wild game. Here's what

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Speaker 2: I always hope for it and I look at the

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Speaker 2: schedule Jets and then the Bengals to end it on

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Speaker 2: the road. You just want those games to mean something.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you want a lot out on the table

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Speaker 2: when you're going to play those games, because you look

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Speaker 2: at them right now and they're exciting, and then you

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Speaker 2: have to wait for them and you have to wait

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Speaker 2: and watch how the season plays out to hopefully be

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Speaker 2: still in it as far as the playoffs are concerned,

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Speaker 2: in the division race, and if you are, that's a

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Speaker 2: tough twosome and that's going to be very exciting. So

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Speaker 2: to get one at home against the Jets with the

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Speaker 2: whole Aaron Rodgers story, but to end in Cincinnati will

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Speaker 2: be something too. That will really be a classic. If

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Speaker 2: there's a lot riding on the game.

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Speaker 1: Well, and really it's interesting because normally that mini bye

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Speaker 1: week comes in October or November. Well, we're probably one

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Speaker 1: of the last, if not the last Thursday night game.

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Speaker 1: We're the next to last Thursday Night game. We get

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Speaker 1: a mini bye before you get the Cincinnati Bengals. So

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Speaker 1: if you can get to those last three games and

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Speaker 1: they all mean something, and you take care of business

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Speaker 1: at home against the Jets, you've got a few extra

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Speaker 1: days to get ready for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the other thing, Jason, where will the Jets

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Speaker 2: be at that time? Because you know a lot of

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Speaker 2: people have them as a team that will be right

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Speaker 2: there with Buffalo and Miami now in the AFC East race,

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Speaker 2: with New England suddenly out of the picture in what

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Speaker 2: looks like a pretty significant rebuild. But where will the

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Speaker 2: Jets be? And how did that all go the day

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Speaker 2: in day out new York media dealing with Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: and how did he deal with them? And how is

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Speaker 2: Robert Salah putting all of that together? Now, we've got

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Speaker 2: a lot to chew on going into that game, because

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Speaker 2: there's still a bad taste in the Browns mouths how

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Speaker 2: that home opener last season went against the Jets and

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Speaker 2: how that lead just slipped away from them and they

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Speaker 2: ended up losing that game. So there's a lot to

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Speaker 2: play for there. But really, I just hope there's a

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Speaker 2: lot riding on those two games because they've set up

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Speaker 2: beautifully on the schedule, and those would be some atmospheres

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Speaker 2: that you want to be a part of big games,

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Speaker 2: and you could certainly have the potential. They have two

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Speaker 2: biggies at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, and that is your twenty twenty three schedule. So

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Speaker 1: there's a couple tvds, a lot of one o'clocks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we play on the West coast, so you've got three

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Speaker 1: four o'clocks, you got two primetime games. You mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: you touched on it at the beginning. You know, the

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Speaker 1: preseason slate. You're you're in Canton on August third. The

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Speaker 1: other dates and times still being decided, and we'll be

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Speaker 1: released here sooner rather than later. But to your home

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Speaker 1: for Washington. Then you're at Philly joint practices into at

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Speaker 1: Philly and then at Kansas City. And I would think

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Speaker 1: that last preseason game you're probably going to see the

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Speaker 1: chief starters for a few series. I would think that

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Speaker 1: would be their probably their dress rehearsal game, since they're

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Speaker 1: two weeks out then from the season opener and then

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Speaker 1: right into it. So it is chock full of quality

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Speaker 1: opponents here in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting opening game for Kansas City too.

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Speaker 2: They have the kickoff game to start the regular season

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Speaker 2: on that Thursday night on NBC and they get the Lions,

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Speaker 2: which is really fascinating. I mean two shared of the Lions.

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Speaker 2: Good for them. I mean, people are kind of into

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell and the way they played last year. Jason,

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Speaker 2: here's the thing. It's going to be really interesting because

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Speaker 2: le Brons are taking a new look obviously at getting

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Speaker 2: ready for the season in what their training camp situation

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Speaker 2: is going to be. I mean, this trip to West Virginia,

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Speaker 2: no doubt, was well thought out, and they sat around

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Speaker 2: and said, Okay, what are the pros? What are the cons?

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna go with the pros. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: go away. We're gonna go away for eight practices or so,

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Speaker 2: and then we're gonna come intown and we're gonna take

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Speaker 2: on the Hall of Fame game. Then we're gonna go

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Speaker 2: away again. We're gonna go to Philadelphia. So how all

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Speaker 2: of that works out, I think we'll first see in

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Speaker 2: that opening game against Cincinnati, because that will be the

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Speaker 2: thing that will put how training camp went and was

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Speaker 2: that plan successful when you come out against the team

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Speaker 2: that you're gonna have to be ready for when you

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Speaker 2: take on the Joe Burrow and his Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of fascinating storylines as we approach

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Speaker 1: rapidly maybe too rapidly. If we can just put the

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Speaker 1: brake on and enjoy a little summer.

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Speaker 2: I'd like that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that we're actually going

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Speaker 1: to get since we start so early.

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Speaker 2: Jim, I appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us, and we look

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Speaker 1: forward to continuing coverage here as we get closer to

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Speaker 1: the start of the twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jason, I look forward to our playoff preview podcast.

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Speaker 1: I love it. We did a few of those a

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Speaker 1: few years ago in COVID. It was out of my

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Speaker 1: kid's bedroom on a zoom. It was perfect. Jim appreciated.

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