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Speaker 1: This is that Mitch McConnell exciting us with his energetic tone.

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Speaker 4: I look forward to welcoming presidents of Olenski to the

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Speaker 4: the reason that a big bipartisan majority of the American

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Speaker 4: continuing to assist Ukraine is not primarily about inspiring speeches

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Mitch McConnell says it's not about inspiring speeches,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go, thanks Mitch. So anyway, he says,

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Speaker 1: Zelenski then gave a President Joe Biden a soldier's award.

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Speaker 1: horrible to spend that much time with it. Hello. So

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Speaker 1: I talked to Pops and you know, a happy anniversary.

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Speaker 1: And I talked to him again today. I talked to

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Speaker 1: him a couple times a week, and I said, it

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Speaker 1: looks like you've probably heard about this weather system is

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Speaker 1: going through the Midwest and he's in Upper Michigan, Northern Michigan.

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Speaker 1: I should say, not up. I say upper and people

433
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Speaker 1: think of the Up and that's not it. He's in

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Speaker 1: Northern Michigan, which is the Lower Peninsula. And I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: you guys ready for the stormings? Ah? You know dem

436
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: meaning that the forecasters are always wrong. We had a

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Speaker 1: guy when I was growing up. I grew up in

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Speaker 1: that area and he was the He was the weatherman

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Speaker 1: for the Traverse City CBS station and we used to

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Speaker 1: call him Blizzard Bill because anytime there was any time

441
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Speaker 1: that there was gonna be a snowfall. He would tell you,

442
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Speaker 1: you know, batting down the hatches, duck and cover all

443
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Speaker 1: this kind of stuff because it was going to be

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Speaker 1: the worst ever. He tended. But I think I think

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Speaker 1: meteorologists and snow prone areas kind of get that reputation

446
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Speaker 1: because they always tell you here's how bad it could be,

447
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Speaker 1: so you prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

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Speaker 1: Right But I said, Pops, looks like you're gonnaet hit

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Speaker 1: with the snows ap, you know. Dem I said, what's

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Speaker 1: that again? You know them won't be too bad. But

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Speaker 1: got the snowblower tuned up just in case, so Pops

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Speaker 1: is ready. He got the snowblower tuned up seventy but

453
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Speaker 1: he got the snowblower tuned up, so he's ready to

454
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Speaker 1: do his quarter mile long drive now should he have

455
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Speaker 1: to this. The storm is moving through the Midwest, is

456
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Speaker 1: a bomb cyclone blizzard. It will unleash an Arctic blast

457
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Speaker 1: and freezing temperatures. So if you are planning to travel

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Speaker 1: this holiday, probably best to avoid places like Chicago, Minneapolis, Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Just avoid Detroit anyway, Indianapolis, even Nashville is gonna be cold,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna have freezing rain in the sort of

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Speaker 1: the middle South, the Charlotte, Rawley, Charlottesville, these places are

462
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Speaker 1: gonna have freezing rain DC And then later on in

463
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Speaker 1: the week they're talking about Buffalo getting Buffalo like snowfall,

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Speaker 1: where well over a foot of snow could be falling,

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Speaker 1: most of that coming off of the Great Lakes and

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Speaker 1: they get that lake effect snow all the way across

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Speaker 1: Lake Erie, dropping onto Buffalo and even into places like

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Speaker 1: New York. Now here's the good news. If you are

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Speaker 1: planning on traveling, say you're leaving tomorrow, you're gonna go

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Speaker 1: to Lax and you're gonna fly to JFK. Great, you're

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Speaker 1: in good shape. If you're leaving tomorrow from Lax to O'Hare,

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Speaker 1: don't you're gonna get backed up. It's gonna be a mess.

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Speaker 1: But if you're going to the East Coast, you're going

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Speaker 1: to JFK, LaGuardia, or you're going to one of the

475
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Speaker 1: others in that you know along the East Coast, the

476
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Speaker 1: Eastern Seaboard, you're probably gonna be okay. But you're gonna

477
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Speaker 1: want to wait through the storm. And that storm is

478
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Speaker 1: gonna be hitting pop says, this storm's supposed to come

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. He says, okay, Dan, that sounds great tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: And I said, well, how long is it gonna aast?

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Speaker 1: You goes ah, you know, don't I don't know, Dan,

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Speaker 1: He says, you know it'll be around Okay, Pops, that's great.

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Speaker 1: So I looked it up and I think he's supposed

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Speaker 1: to have snow tomorrow afternoon through Friday afternoon. The morning

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Speaker 1: lasts until Saturday morning blizzard warning. But you know, dem,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to New York, and let's say I

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Speaker 1: was thinking about where you might want to travel. First

488
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Speaker 1: of all, people in New York would rather come here

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Speaker 1: than you want to go to New York. But if

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Speaker 1: you're going, let's say you're gonna go do the Times

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Speaker 1: Square thing. Go now. If you're headed out now, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get there ahead of the storm, but you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to batten down the hatches during as the storm

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Speaker 1: moves across the Midwest, the Upper Plains, and then into

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Speaker 1: the Northeast. But the thing is is that next week,

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Speaker 1: later in the week, it's actually gonna get warm. So

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Speaker 1: New Year's Eve in Times Square should be pretty nice.

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Speaker 1: This time this year should be a nice time. So

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Speaker 1: enjoy that if you can, if that's part of your plans.

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Speaker 1: If not, just stay where you are, good lord. When

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Speaker 1: the most you have to complain about is that the

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Speaker 1: nighttime temperatures drop below fifty Why in the world would

503
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Speaker 1: you think about getting out a plane and going someplace

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Speaker 1: where they're hoping to see twenty five for a high

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Speaker 1: My god, that's that's sub zero freezing temperatures for real,

506
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Speaker 1: like literally, right, We'll talk about the electrified post office next.

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Speaker 1: Chris Maryland in for Johnny kenf I am six forty

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Speaker 1: live everywhere in your iHeartRadio app. The post Office is

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Speaker 1: about to go electric. Oh that sounds fine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The USPS plans on going almost all electric vehicles by

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. In fact, they're getting ready to order

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Speaker 1: about one hundred thousand new vehicles, just over one hundred

514
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Speaker 1: thousand new vehicles. Most of those are going to be electric.

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Speaker 1: According to the Washington Post, the Postal Service is going

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Speaker 1: to buy sixty six thousand vehicles to build one of

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Speaker 1: the largest electric fleets in the nation. Biden administration officials

518
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Speaker 1: announcing that yesterday, turning to one of the most recognizable

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Speaker 1: vehicles on American roads, the boxy white mail trucks to

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Speaker 1: fight climate change, Postal officials, and this is where it's

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Speaker 1: more specific. Postal officials plans call for buying sixty thousand

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Speaker 1: next generation delivery vehicles from defense contractor Osh Gosh, of

523
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Speaker 1: which forty five thousand will be electric. The agency will

524
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Speaker 1: also purchase forty six thousand models from mainstream automakers, of

525
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Speaker 1: which twenty one thousand will be electric. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know why they do it this way. I don't know

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Speaker 1: why we're buying postal delivery vehicles from a defense contractor

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Speaker 1: and then more from mainstream automakers. I don't know which

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Speaker 1: mainstream automakers. If that means we're going to go with

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Speaker 1: the Jeeps or Ford delivery vans, or if they're going

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Speaker 1: to go with the Mercedes Benz vans, I don't have

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Speaker 1: any idea. I will tell you this, looking at the

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Speaker 1: photograph that the post ran with it, they do have one.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's a Ford delivery van, like a transit van,

535
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: totally normal. They also have another vehicle, and I'm guessing

536
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Speaker 1: this is the one from the defense contractor. It looks

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Speaker 1: it looks like a child was trying to draw a

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Speaker 1: duck and somebody put wheels on it. That's what the

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Speaker 1: vehicle looks like. I don't know how to describe it

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Speaker 1: any other way than that. It looks like they.

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Speaker 2: Look like they could be distant relatives of the old

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Speaker 2: AMC pacers.

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Speaker 1: Don't they way distant? Yes? Yes they do. Yeah, it's

544
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Speaker 1: like they tried to keep the you know that that

545
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Speaker 1: current look where they've got sort of the sliding door

546
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Speaker 1: and also the elongated front. Except this is just hideous.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the ugliest looking things I've ever seen ever.

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Speaker 1: And I'm a guy that liked the Pontiac Aztech. Okay,

549
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm in the pro Pontiac Aztec camp. I thought that

550
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Speaker 1: was a cool vehicle. I thought it was ahead of

551
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Speaker 1: its time. But I'm looking at this and I'm going

552
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: that's ugly. So if a guy that thinks the ASTech

553
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Speaker 1: was not ugly, you can imagine how ugly this thing

554
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Speaker 1: really is. All right, That's where I'm coming from.

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Speaker 2: It's to deter theft, right, no problem. Nobody wants to

556
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Speaker 2: drive around in one of those.

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Speaker 1: No, Can you imagine pulling that into the chop shop.

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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: Everybody would be like, what's wrong? With you. Nobody wants

559
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Speaker 1: to be caught dead driving one of those things. And

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00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, if the Postal Service is trying

561
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Speaker 1: to deter new employees because they're worried about paying for

562
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Speaker 1: their pensions ahead of time, congratulations, nobody wants to be

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Speaker 1: seen in one of those vehicles. You won't have any

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Speaker 1: trouble with people not applying for the job. Oh, it's hideous, terrible.

565
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: Of course, you're going to have people that are. In fact,

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Speaker 1: the headline is this Postal Service will electrify trucks by

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six in climate, win for Biden. I don't

568
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Speaker 1: know how that's a win for Biden. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how we have the congratulations Biden wins, you won the climate,

570
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. I don't know who lost that. Who loses

571
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: in that? People that don't want more efficient vehicles, I

572
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Speaker 1: guess lose. I suppose people that you know, they like

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Speaker 1: to complain about contracts or policies that favor environmentally friendly groups.

574
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna say, oh, this is very friendly to the

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Speaker 1: ev manufacturers. So I guess they win. I mean, what's

576
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Speaker 1: the alternative? Then you favor less environmentally friendly groups? So oh,

577
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: they want. This is like talking to my father. There's

578
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Speaker 1: just everything. He's just angry about everything. So is Oh

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Speaker 1: and the electric car makers must be happy. Well, I'm

580
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: sure they are. They just they're gonna pull contracts for

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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of vehicles. So yeah, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: they're happy. But if they don't get that, are you

583
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, I bet the combustion engine manufacturers are

584
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: pretty happy. Yeah, I mean they would be. So it

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Speaker 1: just is. I mean, if you have to have a winner,

586
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Speaker 1: then I guess you have to have a loser. But

587
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: sometimes you've got wings that benefit society as a whole,

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00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: and then the losers come out ahead in the long run.

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Speaker 1: For instance, you know, we had a whole Civil war

590
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Speaker 1: thing in this country, and we had half the country

591
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Speaker 1: that said slavery is bad, and we had half the

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Speaker 1: country that said owning other people is a great idea.

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Speaker 1: And in the Civil War we had winners and losers.

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Speaker 1: And yet I would argue that even though the South lost,

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00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 1: they still came out ahead because they're not owning people,

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Speaker 1: and morally they're better off than they would have been

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Speaker 1: had they won. You see what I mean. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got winners and losers, but sometimes sometimes losing you're

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Speaker 1: still a winner. The electric vehicles are part of the

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Speaker 1: plan to replace the fleet of thirty year old trucks

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Speaker 1: that the post Office still has. They lack air conditioning,

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Speaker 1: they lack air bags and other standard safety features. This

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00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: blew my mind. It for people. You're in the England

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Speaker 1: Empire in late August or September, you got Santa Annas

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Speaker 1: that are bringing temperatures to you know, one ten, and

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Speaker 1: you see your postal delivery person out there in a

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Speaker 1: vehicle that doesn't have air conditioning, doesn't have air bags,

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Speaker 1: may not even have anti lock breaks for Pete's SAG,

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Speaker 1: certainly doesn't have backup cameras. I mean, I kind of

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Speaker 1: feel bad for the people that are although the vehicles

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Speaker 1: that they're driving now, while technologically inept, they're far more

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Speaker 1: attractive than the junk they're about to be driving. But

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Speaker 1: here's the other kicker. You realize that those postal trucks,

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Speaker 1: the thirty year old trucks that they're driving right now,

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Speaker 1: they get eight point two miles per gallon eight point two.

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Speaker 1: I had a three quarter ton Chevy in the early

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Speaker 1: two thousands with a job say it six point two

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Speaker 1: liter vaight engine in it, and I got eleven miles

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Speaker 1: to the gallon. I had nearly half again better gas

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Speaker 1: mileage than those postal trucks have. Right now, that's horrible. Now.

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Speaker 1: Thirty years ago, we weren't paying four five dollars a

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Speaker 1: gallon for gas, So maybe they thought not a big deal,

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Speaker 1: but it sure is now. I gotta believe that these

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Speaker 1: evs are gonna start paying for themselves, and as the

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Speaker 1: infrastructure goes in this may be another good reason. Remember

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Speaker 1: the whole reason we have roads in the first place

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Speaker 1: is because the postal Service has to have them. It's

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Speaker 1: in the constitution. Check it out. Maybe part of the reason.

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Speaker 1: One of the other upsides to this is that while

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Speaker 1: the Postal Service starts electrifying their fleet, that spurs more

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Speaker 1: investment into the infrastructure for evs, which is the big

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00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: hanging up to adoption nationwide. Right now, we're better at

633
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Speaker 1: it here in California than anywhere else in the nation,

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Speaker 1: But maybe this helps the rest of the country start

635
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Speaker 1: to catch up, because you're gonna have to have charging

636
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Speaker 1: stations because you're postal delivery person needs it, flat out

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00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: needs it. One thing that I think we can all

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Speaker 1: agree on in in California is that people are tense,

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Speaker 1: and we thought legalizing marijuana would help with that, but

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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to have helped with that so much.

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Speaker 1: Is people are still really tense and sometimes just intense.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if legalizing something else would make that better.

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Speaker 1: We'll kick that around in just a moment. Chris Marrilan

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