1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: Why did you do it? 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: dot Com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: It's the John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: and Kenny Florian. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 4: I fucking love him. 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: I can't get enough of him. 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 4: Let's hear that both Jobufia Craig beers hand. 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 5: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists. 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 6: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 7: Oh is it great to be with you? No Matt Sarah. 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 8: This week, folks, It's Monday, May seventeenth, twenty twenty one, 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 8: Episode three to Zho one of the Anak and Florian Podcast. 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 8: John Anak and Ray Long Goo off the top today 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 8: because I think Ken Flow's wife is in labor as 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 8: I wanted to be on the air when. 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 7: She actually gave birth to this little human being. 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 8: So the best to Clark Florian and Kenny Florian as 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 8: their lives are about to effectively change forever here in 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 8: a matter of bones. 26 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, best of luck, guys. Might he wouldn't let the 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 9: podcast go in he went dark. 28 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 8: On us, so he said he might miss the show 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 8: today and then he went dark. So I'm assuming that's 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 8: because things are starting to escalate, as they say. I 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 8: believe her water broke this morning and they are are 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 8: ready to go. So Kenny has a daughter, true, and 33 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 8: they are welcoming a baby boy. Not breaking news if 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 8: you follow the guy on Twitter. I'm not trying to 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 8: steal his thunder, but nice. We're excited to see what 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 8: this boy will be named. And of course Ken Flow 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 8: is celebrating a big birthday here in about nine days, 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 8: but at all likely that he will not be with 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 8: us today. But that's okay because you know who stepped 40 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 8: up to the goddamn plate, Raymond Peter Longo. 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 9: You know what this is like in the movies when 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 9: they got to wake the old judge up to sign 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 9: like a search warrant, they come out of my This 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 9: is what I feel like, but they got my trust. 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 9: He led Zeppelin mug I'm ready to go. 46 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 7: Longo is a notary public. 47 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 8: By the way, if anybody needs that, I can just 48 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 8: show up at Longo VI ib'min MMA today. So uh yeah, 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 8: Matt Sarah's appearance last week polarizing individual. No, he's very 50 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 8: beloved in the MMA space. But the dynamic between the 51 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 8: two of you guys gets me off my game. 52 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 9: He fucked us on purpose. He could have been home 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 9: and did that. Now he had to go in the 54 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 9: car and we had a look at him like this. 55 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 9: How would hey, people, how would you like to see 56 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 9: this for like twenty seconds? Right? I mean this is 57 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 9: what we tool like a guy kept freezing horrible different locations. 58 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 8: Well, I will say though, we were trying to work 59 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 8: around his schedule, which includes this mid morning nap so 60 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 8: he teaches very early on or whatever the hell he does. 61 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 8: And so he said as late as you can do it, 62 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 8: and I said, twelve thirty pm EASTERNS about as late 63 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 8: as we can go. So we wanted to answer the 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 8: bell for the three hundred episode. But that is neither 65 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 8: here nor there. Let's get into headlines and let us 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 8: begin with UFC two sixty two. 67 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 7: What a wild live event, huh, I mean sport. 68 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 9: I thought every fight on that card was good from 69 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 9: top to bottom. They had great fights, one of the 70 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 9: best cards I remember. 71 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 8: So Charles Olivera is the undisputed UFC Lightweight champion, and 72 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 8: I think anybody who watched the broadcast and ingested our 73 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 8: content this week UFC two sixty two countdown, they understand 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 8: what type of accomplishment this is for it to take 75 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 8: a guy twenty eight UFC fights to just get a 76 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 8: championship opportunity. And there were plenty of times in Charles 77 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 8: Olivera's career when people sort of dismissed his chances to 78 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 8: rise to that peak. You know, after the main event 79 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 8: against Mats Holloway that I've referenced in twenty fifteen that 80 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 8: ended unceremoniously with an injury about ninety seconds in, and 81 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 8: people have perpetually questioned his toughness at times deservedly so, 82 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 8: Charles Oliver's on top of the MMA world, and man 83 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 8: to man, I just couldn't be happier for this individual 84 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 8: in this family. 85 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think that Charles oliver And ized 86 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 9: it this never never, never, never quit. He just kept 87 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 9: going and I'm gonna give you a bit of trivia. 88 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 9: I said this the other night to somebody. It was 89 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 9: about twelve, twelve, thirteen years ago. He actually fought in 90 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 9: the ring of combat and he fought a really tough 91 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 9: guy from Long Island. I think his name was Dom Stanko, and. 92 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 7: That's a fighter name, huh. 93 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 9: I mean tough, really like tough street kid. And he 94 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 9: got dismantled. I mean, this guy, whoever he was, you know, 95 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 9: there was I think it was there was a place 96 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 9: in Florida called the Armory. Maybe I could be totally wrong, 97 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 9: but there was a guy brought in him. He brought 98 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 9: in Nets and Bobo's the two guys that when you 99 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 9: saw them fight, you said, these guys are going to 100 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 9: do something. I don't know if I said he's going 101 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 9: to be a champion someday, but man, he was totally different. 102 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 9: It was about twelve years ago. So his journey started 103 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 9: in those you know, those little shows and ended up 104 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 9: culminating in a big victory, which is which is crazy 105 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 9: because he did have highs and lows, you know, and 106 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 9: he's got a bunch of losses on his record, and 107 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 9: you know, I thought the difference in this fight. You know, 108 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 9: I thought Chandler had a shot to do what Felder 109 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 9: did to him, kind of just break him with like physicality, 110 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 9: and it almost looked like it was going to happen, 111 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 9: and it didn't, So Oliver a man, hats off man. 112 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 9: He stayed the course. His technique is beautiful. You know, 113 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 9: even when he got hurt, he was still able to 114 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 9: start throwing up submissions. Whether he was close or not 115 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 9: is one thing, but he was had He has a 116 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 9: presence of mind to fight. Looked like maybe he could 117 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 9: have been stopped, but thank god it wasn't. But you 118 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 9: know who's not a Michael Chandler fan. It was a 119 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 9: crazy thing because Chandler is such an uplifting guy and 120 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 9: if anybody could handle a loss, it's Chandler. He goes 121 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 9: into that category where those losses don't bother him. He's 122 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 9: not gonna hap on it. He's gonna find the silver 123 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 9: lining and that loss and he will be back. 124 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 8: There are a lot of different angles to this fight 125 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 8: that we will get to. I'm not sure how much 126 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 8: time Ray Loonko has this morning, but in terms of 127 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 8: Michael Chandler and his fight, IQ, his strategy in this fight. 128 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 8: I do believe in terms of one punch knockout power, 129 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 8: he's got to be the most powerful guy one hundred 130 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 8: and fifty five pounds. I would throw Justin Gagee in 131 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 8: that mix. Charles OLIVERA. We talk a lot about the technique. 132 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 8: Maybe we don't talk enough about the power that he 133 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 8: has on the feet. But Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier and 134 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 8: I all at different times in that first round, question 135 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 8: Chandler's decision on the broadcast to engage Charles on the 136 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 8: ground instead of allowing him back to his feet when 137 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 8: he had him hurt. So I will turn it around 138 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 8: on the coach and ask you if you fault Michael 139 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 8: Chandler's decision to continuously engage inside that closed guard of 140 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 8: Charles Oliver are seemingly maybe trying to finish him with 141 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 8: ground strikes. You know, I thought he should have stood 142 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 8: him up at least twice in that round when he 143 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 8: was hurt to try to close the show. 144 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, look, it's uh. He had success with with hooker, right. 145 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 9: It never got to the guard, obviously, but he did it. 146 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 9: Basically was the same kind of thing the guy was 147 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 9: on old you know, on old fours he was getting 148 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 9: punched in the head. Look, if you ever heard me coaching, 149 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 9: I'm always the guy saying stand back up because I 150 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 9: love to get a guy up. And those legs are 151 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 9: wobbling a little bit. One of two free shots, you 152 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 9: know what I mean. It was almost you know, I'm 153 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 9: not you know, not the but even like Matt and GSP, 154 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 9: you know, he had that guy wobbled, he could have 155 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 9: went to the floor. That's a jiu jitsu guy. Maybe 156 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 9: he should have went down and submitted him. No, he 157 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 9: kept lining him up man for big shots while he 158 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 9: was wobbling, and that was probably a mistake in hindsight, 159 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 9: but it's worked for him before, so you know, maybe hell, 160 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 9: that's what I'm saying. He'll learn something from that. But 161 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 9: if you have the power of Michael Chandler back on. 162 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 8: His feet, well, that's my thought, and it's not hindsight 163 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 8: for us, because we mentioned it right while the fight 164 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 8: was going on. I guess I'm wondering aloud if strategically 165 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 8: that was something that they were planning to do or 166 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 8: if that was just instinctual. 167 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 9: I think it was instinctual what he did. But you know, 168 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 9: in hindsight, and again for me. I'm always yelling to 169 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 9: get back up, especially when I know I have a striker. Yeah, 170 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 9: you know, if I have a guy that wrestles, I'm 171 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 9: not doing that, you know. But but Chandler has huge power. 172 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 9: There was a fight man, Me and al were cornering 173 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 9: Costa Philippo, and I forget who he was fighting, but 174 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 9: he knocked the guy down. He was on top of 175 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 9: me and Alice screaming again up. I mean it took John. 176 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 9: It took when he screams right, and he was when 177 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 9: he let that guy up. Man, that guy stood up 178 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 9: and he got hit with two shots took them completely out. 179 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 9: So I think that's where you're coming from. I agree 180 00:08:58,840 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 9: with that. 181 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 8: Michael Chandler a lot more coachable, incidentally than Costa philip No, 182 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 8: I'm just I'm just kidding. The mental fortitude though, Charles 183 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 8: olivera in this instinct when he was hurt, the way 184 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 8: he rolled urgently to make sure that this fight was 185 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 8: not finished. 186 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 7: I give him a lot of credit for that. 187 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 8: And I was talking to the Fine MMA manager Jason 188 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 8: House and Erica boy Anders before the fight, and Jason 189 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 8: House made me want to almost go back to my 190 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 8: hotel room and rewrite my show open because he was 191 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 8: talking about Chandler as a foil for Charles Olivera and saying, 192 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 8: how perfect would it be if Charles Olivera can beat 193 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 8: this guy, because this is the type of challenge that 194 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 8: you would really like to see him pass to become 195 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 8: the UFC champion, maybe a Felder type challenge a little 196 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 8: bit if the fight goes to the ground and gets 197 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 8: harry as it did, right, but you want to see 198 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 8: him be the nail, right, not be the hammer necessarily, 199 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 8: but be the nail, recover, lean on his heart and 200 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 8: mental and physical toughness and still get the job done. 201 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 8: So I think it was a perfect championship with to 202 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 8: win a title. And as I said to someone after 203 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 8: the fact, you know, Michael Chandler's a dear friend of mine. 204 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 8: I have a closer personal relationship with him, even though 205 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 8: I go way back with Charles in some part just 206 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 8: because Charles Olivera doesn't really speak English. 207 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 7: But you know, Chandler's already a millionaire. 208 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 8: Charles Olivera has effectively changed his life forever, and it's 209 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 8: gonna be able to help his family and a lot 210 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 8: of different people with this money and with this new 211 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 8: championship contract. So I am just so happy, man, so 212 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 8: so happy for Charles Olivera. And you know, hopefully he's 213 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 8: feeling that love from the fan base, right yeah. 214 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 9: And then John the fights that really get you jumping 215 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 9: out of your seat to where one guy's winning, then 216 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 9: he's losing, then he's winning again. You know, when he 217 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 9: had Chandler in the body lock, when he had his back, 218 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 9: I mean, who, I thought Chandler did a great job 219 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 9: defending that. And that's another reason why, like to your 220 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 9: point where when he knocked him down, why even take 221 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 9: the chance of getting back into a position like that 222 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 9: that's uncomfortable and you know, thank god he made it 223 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 9: out of there. But just what a great back and 224 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 9: forth fight, great storylines on both sides. It was just 225 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 9: I thought it was a fantastic main event. 226 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 8: I was listening to Tyron Woodley on the ESPN plus 227 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 8: UFC two sixty two post show, and he talked about 228 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 8: Charles Olivera's ability to keep Michael Chandler on the end 229 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 8: of his punches and specifically the accuracy down the stretch 230 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 8: when you have Chandler on the ropes and he was 231 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 8: pretty damn hurt, you know, Cody was saying to me 232 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 8: in Houston. I actually got to meet Cody Merrow this weekend, 233 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 8: our producer for the first time. 234 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 7: It was his eighth birthday. 235 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 236 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 9: Wow, what a great dude. 237 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 7: He's not six y three, but he's a great dude. 238 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 9: I'm just I don't even know what that means, but 239 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 9: it's funny. 240 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 7: No, So I lost my train of thought there for 241 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 7: a second. 242 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 8: But keeping somebody on the end of your punches, you 243 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 8: have a window on which to finish somebody. And Charles 244 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 8: Olivera made sure that Michael Chandler didn't recover. And you 245 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 8: see a lot of these guys are just so accurate 246 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 8: in these type of situations that I would actually put 247 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 8: Chandler hooker in this conversation as well. He did not 248 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 8: miss with those finishing strikes, and Charles Olivera man did 249 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 8: he not miss and made sure that he left no 250 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,119 Speaker 8: doubt that Chandler was unconscious. 251 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 9: Absolutely beautiful a fight, John. 252 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 5: So the point that you got ran off track of 253 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 5: that I was making to you was that at no 254 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 5: point did Chandler think to shoot when Charles heard him, Yes, 255 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 5: which is crazy. 256 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 6: Thinking because Chandler is an excellent wrestler. 257 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 5: And at no point in his brand did he think 258 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 5: to shoot when he was hurt. 259 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 7: Thank you, Cody. 260 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 9: That's right. 261 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 8: That's a great point. So he was clearly compromised to 262 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 8: a significant extent. 263 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 9: All right. 264 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 8: So there's so much to get into when it comes 265 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 8: to this fight. I don't want to bring the program 266 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 8: down with this marass of negativity right now, but we 267 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 8: do have to talk about the scorecards a little bit, 268 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 8: because even though it mattered not at night's end, because 269 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 8: there was a finish, two of the three judges involved 270 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 8: gave Olivera excuse me, gave Michael Chandler a ten eight 271 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 8: in round one, despite the fact that Charles Olivera had 272 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 8: some moments. So the way I interpret the scoring, I 273 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 8: thought that was a ten to nine. I thought it 274 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 8: was maybe inching towards a ten eight. But based upon 275 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 8: my interpretation of the scoring, which I am gonna read 276 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 8: for you today, I apologize if people don't want to 277 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 8: hear that. But before I get into sort of the 278 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 8: nitty gritty of the language, Saldamato and Chris Lee are 279 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 8: sort of ubiquitously regarded as fine judges, and well, I'll 280 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 8: preface it by saying, if my boss is Craig Wor sorry, 281 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 8: and Zach Candido don't like me to talk about judges individually. 282 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 8: I'm sure i'll get a phone call from Zach after 283 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 8: this program. I think Saldamato is one of the best 284 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 8: judges in the game. I do not hold Chris Lee 285 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 8: in that regard. I haven't fancied a lot of his 286 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 8: scorecards over the last two years. But both of those 287 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 8: guys had a ten eight. And these are widely regardles 288 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 8: as two of the most elite judges in the business. 289 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 8: And I just did not see this as a ten eight. 290 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 8: And I'll get into the language here in a little 291 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 8: bit after I get Ray's opinion. 292 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 5: Uh. 293 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 8: And maybe I should have done this in reverse order, 294 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 8: but uh, I don't know. I feel like some of 295 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 8: these judges are in their head a little bit at 296 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 8: this point in time. And uh, you know, with this 297 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 8: motivation to be more liberal with the ten eights, I 298 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 8: didn't see a ten eight there in round one. 299 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 7: Of your thoughts were in, Uh. 300 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, I wouldn't have scored that a ten eight only 301 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 9: because he was threatening with the submissions on the floor. 302 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 9: So I think that evens out the big moment that 303 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 9: he had. And Ol Oliver Ara did survive. It wasn't 304 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 9: like he was he didn't look like he was out. 305 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 9: So yeah, that's a I mean, look at it. Yea 306 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 9: bad dude. Don't get me going with the judging thing, man, 307 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 9: I just it's it's a real simple solution, John. I'm 308 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 9: telling you, any job in this country that you can't 309 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 9: do is a good chance you get fired. I mean, 310 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 9: I don't know they have to, but but in all honesty, 311 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 9: they have to open up these judges so we could 312 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 9: talk to them and just just tell me what you saw, right, 313 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 9: Just why because without that, it's not even any type 314 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 9: of due process. It's just I don't know why they 315 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 9: protect these guys. I don't know I judges and referees. 316 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,479 Speaker 9: I mean, they are protected. That is, that is a 317 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 9: you are not pierced. Piercing that armor that protects these guys. 318 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 9: But it's you have to at least let them talk 319 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 9: and just tell us what they're thinking, or they should 320 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 9: be answering to the commission that you know, the head, 321 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 9: and then he's got to make the decision. Dude, you're 322 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 9: going back to the miners. That's unacceptable. Why would you 323 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 9: think it was that when it's clearly looking like you 324 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 9: know something. It's just but I've been through this one 325 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 9: hundred times, man, you see my problem always. I mean, 326 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 9: I didn't want to get into that, but let's not 327 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 9: go down that rabbit. But you know the judges that 328 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 9: are in there for the wrong reason too, And you know, 329 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 9: like I had a beef with a guy and he 330 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 9: purposely just he's gonna fuck you. Man, There's no question 331 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 9: about it. You can't have the guy judging your fights. 332 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 9: And for the championship fights, I know you get to 333 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 9: pick the referee, I think, but not the judges. But uh, 334 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 9: it's a it's a sad it's sad man because people 335 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 9: they're losing half their pay. But I think this night, 336 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 9: every the right win is one. Right John, we agree 337 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 9: on that, Yes, it was. 338 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 7: We're not done on this unfortunately. 339 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 9: Yeah. I mean. 340 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 8: Charles Olivera starts the first round, landing the good clean 341 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 8: low kicks. He does get Chandler's back at at one point. 342 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 7: Goes to the figure four. 343 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 8: Eventually huge moments for Chandler on the feet swings the 344 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 8: pendulum of the round, but in my mind not enough 345 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 8: to swing it from ten nine oliver early to all 346 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 8: the way ten to eight, Chandlerly, I am going to read, now, yeah, 347 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 8: and go ahead. 348 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 9: A ten eighth should be a like a pretty substantial 349 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 9: beating from bell to bell, or you know, four minutes 350 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 9: of control time landing some damage. 351 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 8: Right, I'm going to read what constitutes a ten nine 352 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 8: round from the MMA scoring, and I would encourage anyone 353 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 8: to check out Sean Shean's video as well when it 354 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 8: comes to scoring. 355 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 7: He's devoted a lot of time to this initiative. 356 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 8: Don't even get me started on the ten tens, which 357 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 8: essentially don't even fucking exist based upon this weird language. 358 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 8: A ten nine round in MMA is where one combatant 359 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 8: wins the round by a close margin. So let us 360 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 8: at least start with that thesis statement that ten nine rounds. 361 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 7: Generally speaking, should be reserved. 362 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 8: For close rounds, at least rounds in which guys have 363 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 8: moments on both sides. I know Ray's already curling an 364 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 8: eyebrow on I'm gonna stop interrupting the rules at this 365 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 8: point in time. 366 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 9: Sorry. 367 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 8: The ten nine rounded mmas where one combatan wins the 368 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 8: round by a close margin. A ten nine round in 369 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 8: MMA is the most common score of judge assesses during 370 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 8: the night. If during the round the judge sees a 371 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 8: fighter land the better strikes or utilize effective grappling during 372 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 8: the competition, even if just by one technique over their opponent, 373 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 8: the judge shall give the winning fighter a score of ten, 374 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 8: while assessing the losing fighter a score of nine or less. 375 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 8: It is imperative that judges understand the score of nine 376 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 8: is not an automatic numerical score given to the losing 377 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 8: fighter of the round. The judge must consider was the 378 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 8: fighter engaged in offensive actions during the round? Did the 379 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 8: losing fighter compete with an attitude of attempting to win 380 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 8: the fight or just to survive the offensive actions of 381 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 8: their opponent. A score of ten nine can reflect an 382 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 8: extremely close round or a round of marginal domination and 383 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 8: or impact, And therein lies the problem, right, Yeah, I 384 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 8: mean you don't have half points. 385 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 7: We don't have a lot of. 386 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 8: Options, right, So I'm all for half points, I'm all 387 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 8: for open scoring. But a score of ten nine can 388 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 8: reflect an extremely close round or a round of marginal 389 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 8: domination and or impact. Right, So ten nines are way 390 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 8: too fucking bige, all right? A ten eight round this 391 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 8: language is a little bit longer. A ten eight round 392 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 8: in MMA is where one fighter wins the round by 393 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 8: a large margin. A ten eight round in MMA not 394 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 8: the most common score of judgeale render, but it is 395 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 8: absolutely essential to the evolution of the sport and the 396 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 8: fairness to the fighters that the judge is understand it 397 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 8: effectable utilize the score of ten eight. 398 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 7: I'm trying to read this quickly. 399 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 8: A score of ten eight does not require a fighter 400 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 8: to dominate their opponent for five minutes of a round. 401 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 8: And that is a line that I think a lot 402 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 8: of judges hang on. 403 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 9: Right, see that that's crazy because it started out almost 404 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 9: a complete opposite. What was the way it started out 405 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 9: when you read that. 406 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 8: A ten eight round in MMA is where one fighter 407 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 8: wins the round by a large margin. But then right, 408 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 8: they go right to the last line, A score of 409 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 8: ten eight does not require a fighter to dominate their 410 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 8: opponent for five minutes, right, okay, right, well, and again 411 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 8: respect to the judges, I think you have the hardest 412 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 8: job in the sport other than fighting. Fighting, hardest job 413 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 8: coaching and commentating incidentally, or way down the list, right, 414 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 8: But again, so that's the line that I always come 415 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 8: back to, and people are like, what does that even mean, 416 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 8: and I'm saying, hey, don't shoot the goddamn messenger. It's 417 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 8: in the rules right here. And I think for even 418 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 8: the most seasoned of judges, stop barking. Even for the 419 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 8: most seasoned of judges, I think they're sitting on that 420 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 8: line and saying, hey, man, you know he dominated that round. 421 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 8: I'm not talking about Charles Olavera, but I'm saying, Michael Chandler, 422 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 8: I'm saying a fighter dominated that round, not necessarily for 423 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 8: the full five minutes. But I'm trying to be more 424 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 8: liberal with this ten eight to differentiate from ten nines, 425 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 8: which really should be reserved in my opinion, for closer rounds. 426 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 7: Let me just continue. 427 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, sorry, if this is boring anybody, By the way, 428 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 8: we did push forced Griffin to next week because ken 429 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 8: Flow is h is thatv of North Carolina Hospital about 430 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 8: to become a father for the second time? 431 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 7: Stop barking? 432 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 9: Please? All right? 433 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 8: Well man, Judges shall always and always in all is 434 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 8: in all caps, like do we really go all caps? 435 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 7: In the official rules. 436 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 8: Judges shall always give a score of ten eight when 437 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 8: the judge has established the one fighter has dominated the 438 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 8: action of the round, had duration of the domine nation 439 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 8: and also impacted their opponent with either effective strikes or 440 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 8: effective grappling maneuvers that have diminished the abilities of their opponent. 441 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 8: Judges must all caps consider giving the score of ten 442 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 8: eight when a fighter shows dominance in the round even 443 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 8: though no impactful scoring against the opponent was achieved. 444 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 7: I'm done, Okay, I. 445 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 8: Decided I'm gonna stop there, because impactful is a made 446 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 8: up word. Something either has impact or it doesn't. I 447 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 8: know it's in the dictionary now because it's like a 448 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 8: cute word that is totally overused and misused in sports television. 449 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 7: But yeah, I saw impactful in the rules. I'm done. 450 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 7: I'm done with that exercise for today. Okay, I love you, Zach, 451 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 7: don't get me in trouble, but you know what I mean. 452 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 7: It's like what so so here. 453 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 8: I am on a head set eight hours twenty five 454 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 8: twenty six weekends a year, and I'm doing my best 455 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 8: to get to the bottom of this and try to 456 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 8: understand this to impart information on an audience of millions 457 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 8: of people around the world, and the language just doesn't 458 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 8: make it any easier, man. I know was rewritten in 459 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 8: two thousands seventeen. I'm still confused. 460 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I look, I'm going back to my origin. Just 461 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 9: talk to these guys. I think that'll give you a 462 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 9: better indication than any rules I'm telling you, because you 463 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 9: might you know it's John. It's like you've talked to 464 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 9: a guy and you go, holy shit, he's fucking bat 465 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 9: shit crazy, like this is the reason. You know what 466 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 9: I'm saying. But if you don't speak with them, or 467 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 9: if it's you know, and it's got to be you know, 468 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 9: off the cuff. It can't be scripted and all that bullshit, 469 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 9: you know what I mean, which is what they like 470 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 9: to do. But uh, yeah, you have to speak with 471 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 9: them and you'll I guarantee you. Once you speak with him, 472 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 9: you'll get a better idea. Look, you know, John McCarthy's 473 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 9: always a good guy to bounce off because when he 474 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 9: at least he explains things I'm not saying. Whether I 475 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 9: agree with him or I disagree with him, he will 476 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 9: give you a great explanation. 477 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, we've been texting about it. 478 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 9: Really will it really will help clear things up. Now 479 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 9: you might agree with it, you might not, but he's 480 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 9: at least willing to talk to you and tell you 481 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 9: this is what I thought, this is why I thought it, 482 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 9: and I think for the most point, he normally does 483 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 9: a pretty good job. Well. 484 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 8: Most of these judges and referees are vehemently discouraged from 485 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 8: speaking publicly, and I think when their profile maybe gets 486 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 8: high enough, like Mark Oddoit or Herbdan, they're okay to 487 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 8: maybe take some liberties. But I do agree with your 488 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 8: thesis statement on this, which is that judges should be accountable. 489 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 8: And I'll also say when I called Ray before the 490 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 8: show and let him know that we were going to 491 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 8: go down this path a little bit today. You know, 492 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 8: you did say it's kind of like pissing up a tree. 493 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 8: And largely when we have these conversations, we. 494 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 9: Get nowhere, John, we get absolutely nowhere. And it's just 495 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 9: I'd rather, you know, at this point, I'd rather just 496 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 9: save my energy for something else. It's not a fortune. 497 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 9: I'm not that hell bent on it, you know what 498 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 9: I'm saying. But I think it's an easy solution. You 499 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 9: go back to the mind as somebody's over. You know, 500 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 9: you have a boss, you didn't do your job, you 501 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 9: get molded. We'll give you time to come back up. 502 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 9: Shadow this guy for do something. 503 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 8: I mean with Chris Lee, scored Paul Felder over Halfayel 504 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 8: dos Angeles. So uh, my nine year old daughter Riley 505 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 8: had it for one for for r D and I 506 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 8: took a deep breath thereafter. 507 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 9: I was like, all right, I'm not we ever get 508 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 9: an explanation as to why he judged that. 509 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 7: I don't even, I don't know. I don't want to talk. 510 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 9: You know, sends him a Christmas. 511 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 7: I do plan, though, because sal Diamato is a nice guy. 512 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 8: I do plan to seek him out and have a 513 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 8: cup of coffee with him and express some of my opinions. 514 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 9: And I believe you'll sit. 515 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 7: Down with me. Yeah. 516 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 8: No, he's a good dude, and I think he's a 517 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 8: damn fine judge as well, and has a really difficult job. 518 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 9: But talk some you'll that will sit down with you, 519 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 9: and once your hits that seat, you'll be looking for 520 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 9: the fucking exit door as quick as carr. Trust me, 521 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 9: you'll be running. You won't even you won't even believe 522 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 9: what you're here, all right, I'll tell you just on 523 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 9: a quick note. I remember, I think it was like 524 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 9: three weeks ago McCarthy and uh Moro would call in 525 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 9: a fight and they had the score. You know it 526 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 9: was an easy fight to score, and there was one 527 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 9: guy the complete opposite. And that's the first time I 528 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 9: heard McCarthy kind of los his mind. He's like, holy you, 529 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 9: there's nothing to ever done. And it's the same guys. Now, 530 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 9: granted he wouldn't reveal the guy's name, which we could 531 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 9: all guess. 532 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 7: But uh, yeah, well it's all out there. 533 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's all out there, and everybody knows who the 534 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 9: who the knuckle heads are at this point, all right. 535 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 7: Not a knucklehead. 536 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 8: Incidentally, Charles dubronx Olivera out of the Favelas in Brazil 537 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 8: to an undisputed UFC lightweight championship, joining his countryman half 538 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 8: Al Dosandos I believe as the only Brazilian lightweight champions 539 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 8: in UFC history. 540 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 7: So who's next? 541 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 8: So I texted Michael Chandler and uh, I know he's 542 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 8: still sort of licking his wounds a little bit, but 543 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 8: I wouldn't be totally opposed to an immediate rematch just 544 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 8: given the nature of the way this first round went. 545 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 8: But that is not going to be the direction in 546 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 8: which the promotion proceeds. So in terms of title defense, 547 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 8: number one for Charles Olivera and by the way, Cody, 548 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 8: I agree with you. Live crowd went from boo and 549 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 8: Olivera in the walkout to cheering his win to a 550 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 8: great extent because of the sheer craziness of the fight. 551 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 8: But you're absolutely right about that. So who's next for 552 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 8: Charles Olivera? Who do you think it'll be the winner 553 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 8: of Dustin Pourrier and Connor McGregor. You do have Justin 554 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 8: Gaegee lurking if maybe you wanted to turn Charles around quickly, 555 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 8: but he did absorb some borderline concussive damage in this contest. 556 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 7: Dom would tell you it wasn't a concussion at all. 557 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 8: But what do you think about the immediate future in 558 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 8: title defense number one for du Bronx. 559 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 9: Look, I think the good news is there's probably four 560 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 9: or five. I think any fight is great, you know, 561 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 9: that's the good news that division right now with those guys, 562 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 9: I would like to see any fight. I mean, Gaichie 563 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 9: is a term in the mob. He gets shelved. What 564 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 9: they do they shelved Geichie. We don't even see him anymore. 565 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 8: I don't know where is he, you know what I mean? 566 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 8: He's been looking for a fight. Yeah, I will think 567 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 8: that that. 568 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 9: Right so I mean, look, the right guy if he 569 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 9: wasn't fighting, would be Dustin right because he's the guy 570 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 9: was He's really the guy that should be fighting for 571 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 9: the title. Yeah, but now he's got to get past McGregor. 572 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 9: And I think the winner of that fight will probably 573 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 9: be the next fight for Olavera. But there's any fight 574 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 9: they make I think is good. Gaetchee would be great. 575 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 9: There's nothing wrong with that. And the other thing with 576 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 9: not putting Chandler in for the rematch, it there's a 577 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 9: million good fights for Chandler, you know, Yeah, it's going 578 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 9: to be that. That division is great, and I think 579 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 9: I think if you lined up a right side and 580 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 9: the left side, you could zig zig any way you want, 581 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 9: every fight is going to be good. 582 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 7: So well, Butanil Daryus is going to be in the mix. 583 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 8: He got his seventh consecutive winning the Comin event against 584 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 8: Tony Ferguson thirty to twenty seven times three. So Tony 585 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 8: Ferguson goes from winning twelve in a row to now 586 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 8: losing three consecutive fights. 587 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 7: Other worldly toughness. 588 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 8: It's great to see everybody embraced Tony to this extent. 589 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 8: I know, as I was talking to my boss, Zach 590 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 8: Candido after the fights. He was sort of saying out loud, 591 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 8: you know, it's kind of too bad that now that 592 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 8: Tony is so appreciated, it's at a time in his 593 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 8: career where maybe he's having a hard time competing with 594 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 8: the elite lightweights. Bnil Daryushus certainly that after this statement win, 595 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 8: What were your thoughts on the on the comin event. 596 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 9: Man, great fight. Benil's an absolute great guy. If you've 597 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 9: ever got to talk to him, he's just a great guy. 598 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 9: Gled to see that, you know, the success he's happened. 599 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 9: But yeah, just total domination against a guy that you know, 600 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 9: we talked about a year and a half, two years 601 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 9: ago of possibly beating you know, Kab, which in hindsight 602 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 9: now doesn't make a good argument, but it is kindsight great, 603 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 9: great win for Benil. He deserves a huge fight, at 604 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 9: least a title eliminade. He's another guy that's had his 605 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 9: ups and downs, been around for a while. It's great 606 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 9: to see him get the win. Said, man, Look, it's 607 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 9: almost to me, it's almost tragic, man, because look, before 608 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 9: we even get started, Dean Thomas, let's give it up 609 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 9: to them, I think, but he knocked it out of 610 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 9: the park. But what he said is one hundred percent right. 611 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 9: Here's a guy that got by on craziness and his 612 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 9: unorthodox everything. And when you don't have the fundamentals you 613 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 9: are in it. You're you're When the ship hits the fan, 614 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 9: you you are, You're gonna get fucked. It's that simple. 615 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 9: And that's exactly what we're seeing this guy. I mean, 616 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 9: the fact that here, here's the problem I'm seeing. And 617 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 9: I don't know. I like Tony, but some he needs 618 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 9: an intervention. Somebody needs to talk to him. The fact 619 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 9: that he thinks Freddy Roach is going to help him. 620 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 9: And I don't care if it was eight months a year. 621 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 9: I mean, it takes a long time, man for for 622 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 9: somebody to make an impact on you. I mean, and 623 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 9: you know, I love Freddy Roach as a coach, but 624 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 9: this is this is, this is looking at everything but 625 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 9: where you should be looking, which is yourself. And it's 626 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 9: just it's sad because you know the guy's got talent. 627 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 9: But then when you're thinking hindsight, John, how many fights 628 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 9: was he knocked down? He's rolling around he got away 629 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 9: with you know, three or four fights where that that 630 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 9: fight could have been over. So I think we're seeing 631 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 9: it finally catch up to him where he just can't 632 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 9: pull it together anymore. But he's got to look at himself. 633 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 9: Johnny did these guys. He really needs one head guy 634 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 9: that he listens to, and that I think his only 635 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 9: chance at this point, because you keep picking up this guy, 636 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 9: you know, Like I remember one time I had a 637 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 9: kickbox that come to me. I didn't even I didn't 638 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 9: even know him, but he had a fight in six weeks. 639 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 9: So I let him train in the gym and I 640 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 9: went to corner him and I overhear somebody going like, man, 641 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 9: I can't wait to see what a difference if when 642 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 9: he's been with long ago, and I'm like, six weeks, dude, 643 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 9: I want to really grab me and go do this guy. 644 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 9: He's a year minimum away from any type of change 645 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 9: like these little quick fixes unless you're really squared away, 646 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 9: right and you know it's just not gonna work. I 647 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 9: don't know what I was looking at with Tony, and 648 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 9: he's got to come to the realization now that everything 649 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 9: is wrong. I mean, he can't stop a takedown. I mean, 650 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 9: and Benil's not a he's not a you know, a 651 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 9: division one, you know, outstanding wrestler in college. I mean 652 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 9: he got He's not losing, he's getting totally dominated, and 653 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 9: it's it's uh, I don't know. I feel bad for 654 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 9: him because he should have had his shot a couple 655 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 9: of years ago. It never happened, and he's this guy's 656 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 9: in a worldish shit now. 657 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, he does have a belt at home, but it 658 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 8: is of the interim variety. 659 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 7: Remarkable. 660 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 8: He never has competed for the undisputed UFC lightweight title. 661 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 8: The speed's not there, excuse me. The aggression doesn't seem 662 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 8: to be there. I know he was neutralized for eleven 663 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 8: minutes on the ground in this fight, but the look 664 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 8: in his eyes is not the same. 665 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 9: Right, He's severely not there. John. Even when they were 666 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 9: announcing the decision, I don't even think he clapped. He 667 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 9: almost looked to me like, is there a possibility maybe 668 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 9: I won? Like he's gotta really somebody's got to sit 669 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 9: him down because he's a super talented guy. That's you know, 670 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 9: I don't know, man, it was all fun, him hitting 671 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 9: the wing chun dummy and doing things. Yeah, you know, 672 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 9: Rogan builds a narrative around he's doing crazy things. But 673 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 9: I don't know, man, who the hell knows I would. 674 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 7: Text may yeah this night speak of a witch. 675 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 9: No. 676 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 8: I mean I thought Caitlin Chukegan might have won this 677 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 8: contents against Viviani outa Ujo. But when thirty to twenty 678 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 8: seven is one of the scorecards, and I thought out 679 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 8: of Uzo had banked at least one, if not two rounds, 680 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 8: it's just massively discouraging. 681 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 7: But you know, Caitland is a problem. She gets stronger 682 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 7: as the fight goes on. 683 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 8: She had a dominant third round, and generally speaking, I 684 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 8: like when the forward moving, fresher fighter gets rewarded. 685 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 7: But uh, I don't know, man. 686 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 8: I think a lot of US octagon side thought that 687 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 8: Vivianiada Jujo had done enough to beat the American tonight. 688 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 8: Anything for me on that fight before we moved to Oli, 689 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 8: Barbos and Burgos, Well. 690 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 9: I mean, look, obviously Caitlyn's a friend, so but but listen, 691 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 9: she clearly won the third. I think Vivian clearly won 692 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 9: the second, so that's a no brainer. Right, So the 693 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 9: first round was close depending on who you give it to, 694 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 9: but I think you guys had Vivia. I'll go either way. 695 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 9: I'm not all would. I wouldn't argue it from like 696 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 9: an outsider's perspective. 697 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 8: Right, rob Riley Annik my nine year old daughter twenty 698 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 8: nine to twenty eight out of. 699 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 7: UJO, which mean the same scorecard as her father. 700 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 9: When we watch I'm gonna say this, you go twenty 701 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 9: nine to twenty eight, Vivian, you go twenty nine twenty eight. Caitlin, Hey, 702 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 9: I'd have to go back and look at the first round. 703 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 9: The other two rounds are easy to score. But so 704 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 9: for some some jackass to give you know, Caitlin all 705 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 9: the rounds after the second round, I think is pretty crazy. 706 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 8: And I consider Caitlin a friend as well, and I'm 707 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 8: very happy for her. She kept a bullish schedule in 708 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 8: twenty twenty and has out with a lot of different 709 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 8: challenges in training because of COVID nineteen. Right, she is 710 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 8: somebody who is very uh transportation base. She bounces around 711 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 8: and trains in New York and travels a lot, and 712 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 8: so she's been leaning on her husband, Kyle Sermanara for 713 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 8: the first time and happy for Caitlin. All right, let's 714 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 8: get to Edson Barbosa and Shane Burgos. What's what's your 715 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 8: out time? Today, Ray, when do you have to get 716 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 8: I love it all right, I fucking love you all right. 717 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 8: And when we get to the main event challenge by 718 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 8: the way later today, the language is just going to 719 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 8: be completely off the rails because I'm going to do 720 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 8: it in a Boston accent for Robbie font So before 721 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 8: Edson Barboza over Shane Burgos by knockout in round three, 722 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 8: seventy five thousand dollars apiece for the fight of the night. 723 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 8: Oh my lord, man, bulletproof matchmaking, and needless to say, 724 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 8: this one delivered. 725 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 9: I mean, I had felded her as the toughest guy 726 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 9: I know. I'm putting Shane Burgos up to have taking 727 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 9: those leg kicks like that spin back kicks to the 728 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 9: to the solar plexus to the liver still walking forward. 729 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 9: He got rocked a bunch of times in that fight. Uh. 730 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 9: That kid is tough and he's good. Uh, but olivert 731 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 9: I mean Barbosa, I mean, just what a great fight. 732 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 9: I don't know what to say. I mean, I've never 733 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 9: seen a knockout like that in my life. You could 734 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 9: see his brain really trying to keep him in there 735 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 9: until it just said, dude, I gave you five seconds, 736 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 9: I'm turning the lights out. You know that was That 737 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 9: delay was insane to me. It's almost like you could 738 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 9: take that combo to left jam to the overhand right 739 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 9: and cut out the first five seconds or six seconds 740 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 9: and just go to where he stumbles back. That's the 741 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 9: way it should look. Now, we saw five or six 742 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 9: seconds that that was crazy. Never I've never seen that. 743 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 9: And anybody out there who has a YouTube video of 744 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 9: something room for you, I love. 745 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 8: Hop Swanson over Charles Olivera of all people. There's an 746 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 8: example in UFC history Charles Olivera gets hit and his 747 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 8: reaction is not quite as delayed as Shane Burgos's, but 748 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 8: there's a delayed reaction. I actually think in this instance 749 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 8: what closed the deal for good for Shane was when 750 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 8: he hit the turnbuckle when he backed of that, because 751 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 8: he was backing up and he had that seemed to 752 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 8: have the ultimate effect and then he was done from there. 753 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 8: But uh no, I mean this is hard for Shane 754 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 8: because he was very discouraged by certain things in that 755 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 8: Josh Emmett fight, namely that he didn't attack that leg 756 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 8: of Emmetts that was already just mush enough. And then 757 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 8: just getting hit too much and obviously got way too 758 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 8: much in this fight. This is not a recipe for 759 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 8: career longevity, even just for long term health and well 760 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 8: being in retirement, you know. So, I do think Shane 761 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 8: Burgos is gonna have to ask himself some hard questions. 762 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 8: I mean, hell of a chin, maybe the best chin. 763 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 9: In the sport. 764 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 8: He has so many different skills that we haven't seen 765 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 8: in the octing on whether it's his grappling. 766 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 7: I do believe though, when you're fighting a guy in. 767 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 8: Edson Borbosa, ultimately like you need a win, like you 768 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 8: need to change levels at some point in time, right, 769 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 8: like you need to mix it up. 770 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 9: Wouldn't it be nice if he would have just put 771 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 9: in some wrestling just to keep Bobosa back on his heels, 772 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 9: which would have set up his striking even more just 773 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 9: by going for it. You don't even have to get him, 774 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 9: Just go for make them work, come back out to 775 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 9: the Senate, do your thing. But this is not, like 776 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 9: you said, it's not the recipe for longevity. I mean, 777 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 9: he's already taken too much punishment as far as I'm concerned, 778 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 9: and I mean I'm hoping they get him checked out 779 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 9: because I'm telling you, John, that was not a normal 780 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 9: That was not a normal reaction. It really wasn't. You 781 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 9: could you could kind of see what's going on, but man, 782 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 9: I don't know. I just hope he's I gotta tell you, 783 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 9: I just hope he's all right, because he's a great fighter. 784 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 8: Man, he's a great fighter, great fighter, one of of 785 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 8: my favorites. And I think, as you saw and embedded, 786 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,959 Speaker 8: Michael Chandler's favorite fighter. And uh, yeah, they were gonna 787 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 8: do some sort of checking. UFC President day White went 788 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 8: over to the stairs to and I was reading Dana's 789 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 8: lips and he said, you're you're an absolute warrior, and 790 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 8: then he was. 791 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 7: Hoping he would go get checked out. 792 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,479 Speaker 9: So yeah, that did happen. 793 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 8: And for Edsen Barboza, there was a good article by 794 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 8: E Spencer Kite I believe on UFC dot com about 795 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 8: Edsen Barboza. He made his acting debut several months ago 796 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 8: and he had to play some like arrogant fighter and 797 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 8: Edson is the furthest thing from that, and it was 798 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 8: weird for him to have to be cocky and wear 799 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 8: these robes mosfeedal style that. 800 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 7: That would be anything that he would put on. 801 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 8: But what a guy, what a striker, one of the 802 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 8: best strikers in UFC history, and what a body of 803 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 8: work for Edsen Barboza. He's another guy who's never competed 804 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 8: for the for the undisputed title. He's been awfully close. 805 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 8: But he said this was the most crucial fight of 806 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 8: his career because even though he's not the oldest guy 807 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 8: in the world, maybe thirty three years old, if Edsen 808 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 8: Barboza doesn't beat Shane Burgos, probably never fighting for the 809 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 8: UFC featherweight title. So needed this win, got it with 810 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 8: style points, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Edson 811 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 8: Barbosa eventually ascend and get a UFC title shot. 812 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 7: Here for so good on it. 813 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 9: Now, Look, he's another guy that's been around long enough. John, 814 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 9: you got to give him. You got to reward these 815 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 9: guys because they go to war. But look, even look 816 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 9: the lake, he comes out blazing leg kicks. Then just 817 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 9: when you think he's gonna kick, his boxing skills look 818 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 9: really well, you know, so he he mixed it up 819 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 9: just enough to I think keep Shane, you know, Wolf 820 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 9: sent it a little bit of or off balanced, but uh, 821 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 9: what a great perform. Another just at the whole night, 822 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 9: every every fight I think was good. 823 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 7: All right, We're gonna get to a couple other of 824 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 7: those fights. 825 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 8: By the way, MMA Decisions dot Com, I'm being told, 826 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 8: had seven scorecards for Caitlin chukegi In twenty nine to 827 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 8: twenty eight, and then ten for Viviani ata Uzo twenty 828 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 8: nine to twenty eight. Point being there seventeen decisions, I 829 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 8: believe for media members if I'm not mistaken, And again verdict, 830 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 8: MMA is the way to go the aggregate getting all 831 00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 8: these scorecards together, right, But the point is seventeen scorecards submitted, 832 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 8: zero had thirty to twenty seven. But yet when you 833 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 8: come to the scorecards that actually matter, somebody is taking 834 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 8: a piss. 835 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 7: In round two, you know. 836 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 8: And then you had Mike Grundy versus Landovnada, And I 837 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 8: thought this was interesting because our executive producer, Cody Merrow 838 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 8: went to the fights and he kind of thought watching 839 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 8: it live, and I know he was not sober per se, 840 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 8: but he thought Mike Grundy won the fight. Then he 841 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 8: went back and watched it at home on mute and 842 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 8: he thought Landovanada won the fight. So split decision here 843 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 8: for Lando. But again one judge had it thirty to 844 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 8: twenty seven for Mike Grundy, like, come on, man. 845 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, listen, man, that was a I'm gonna say it 846 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,959 Speaker 9: was a competitive fight, but I had it thirty twenty seven, 847 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 9: I believe for but Lando looked fantastic. This guy, if 848 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 9: he really concentrates on a game plan, I think he's 849 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 9: gonna be had to beat man. He's very talented. Just 850 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 9: the way he even defended the takedowns like effortlessly, the 851 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 9: way he's you know, we had great awareness. He was 852 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 9: kind of one step ahead of the guy at all times. 853 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 9: But a competitive fight, it really was. It was one 854 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 9: of those fights. I think that's way closer than a 855 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 9: thirty twenty seven seams, you know what I mean. But 856 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 9: I think he got to give those rounds to Lando. 857 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 9: He definitely I agree, There's no question in my mind. 858 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 8: I really want to see him now against somebody in 859 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 8: that top fifteen. And I thought he did a nice 860 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 8: job sort of maximizing his microphone time as well. But 861 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 8: he's a good dude, And yeah, it stands to reason 862 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 8: that he could have done a lot of damage if 863 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 8: he had found the right weight class. 864 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 7: Several fights ago, I said on the broadcast. I don't 865 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 7: know if you picked it up. 866 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 8: He wrestled one year at the University of Tennessee, Chattanooga 867 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 8: at one hundred and seventy four pounds wow, and then 868 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 8: of course in the UFC he was a lightweight up 869 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,959 Speaker 8: until Saturday Night and finally found the division in which 870 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 8: many of us believe he belongs. So we congratulate Groovy 871 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 8: Lando at a jack and a sos is pretty tough man. 872 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 7: It's certainly tougher human being that I am. 873 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 8: It gets his own snapped by Andre Moonez and just 874 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 8: sort of acts like it's a fucking hangnail. 875 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 7: What do you think of that situation? 876 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 9: You know what take away from it? Did you see 877 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 9: when they went to the replay in the one judge. 878 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 7: Ah, he covered his eyes doing that during Bernado Grundy too. 879 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 9: Yeah. Right, we don't know if he did that, That's 880 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 9: what I'm saying. I don't know if he's been doing that, yeah, right, 881 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 9: while the fights are going on. But at least this 882 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,479 Speaker 9: time he had. 883 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 8: A good reason that was I think maybe he did 884 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 8: it in round two of the Atta jujoh, I'll just Caitlan. 885 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 7: I'm just scoring for Caitlyn. 886 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 9: I can't watch. You're horrible, You're a horrible person. 887 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going to hell. 888 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 8: Uh So, Jordan Wright is a fascinating fighter for me. 889 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 8: Who's the other guy? Who is Jordan Levitt? He's Jordan's Man, 890 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 8: Spider Man, Jordan Levitt and the Beverly Hills Ninja Jordan 891 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 8: Wright by TKO over Jamie Pickett at one oh four 892 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 8: of round one. So Jordan Wright has a one hundred 893 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 8: percent finishing rate. I think they're all in the first round. 894 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 8: I mean, he touches these guys, they go to dust. Like, 895 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 8: what is going on with Jordan Wright? If you don't know, 896 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 8: lifelong martial artists, coachable, married to the game, coach by 897 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 8: Anthony HARDNK and Vladimir Montyushenko and Fabio Leopaldo, and it 898 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 8: seems like all of these resources are devoted to him. 899 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 8: But when he wins and he gets you hurt, it 900 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 8: happens quickly and he is very destructive. What do you 901 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 8: think about the future for Jordan Wright? Uh? 902 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 9: I mean, listen, he's got the aggression, he's got the 903 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 9: killer instinct. I think he needs a little more technique. 904 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 9: You can smolish a literally a little row, but at 905 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 9: these early fights that they give him. He's going to 906 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 9: get away with that. But if he doesn't tighten up 907 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 9: a couple of things, better quality guys, that probably it's 908 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 9: not going to look like that. So I hope he 909 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 9: squared away when the time comes before. Right now, what 910 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 9: an entertaining, enjoyable fight. She's just going balls to the 911 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 9: wall from the second that bell rings. 912 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 8: And I know Andrea KGB Lee did not get the 913 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 8: seventy five thousand dollar doon as she had hoped for, 914 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 8: but a great triangle arm bar to get Antonina Shevchenko 915 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 8: out of there with eight seconds to go in round two. 916 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 7: That was a must win for Andrea Lee. 917 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 8: I mean, maybe she would have retained her roster spot, 918 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 8: but in terms of any sort of flyweight contention and 919 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 8: those aspirations absolutely had to have it get to finish. 920 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 8: And for the older Chevchenko sister, obviously this is setback 921 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 8: in terms of her contention and real quick first fight 922 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 8: in the night. I don't know if you saw it, 923 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 8: but Sean Soriano, good friend of mine out of Rhode Island, 924 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 8: coming back to the UFC for the first time since 925 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 8: twenty fifteen, nearly knocked out christ Dosiagos instead he succumbs 926 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 8: to the submission, and dude, I've never seen you knew 927 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 8: Soriano after six years away. He wasn't gonna tap. But 928 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 8: I've never seen that much, that much snot come out 929 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 8: of a human being. After I got choked unconscious. 930 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 9: You guys must be having a ball at that broadcast booth. 931 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 7: Well, I love it all. 932 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 8: See, that's the thing, Like I love the I'm not 933 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 8: gonna say I like love the bodily fluid. 934 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 7: I guess I just said it. 935 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 8: I'm all for the blood, like I am all for 936 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 8: the blood. I don't turn away when I see limb snap. 937 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 8: It's hard for me to watch the Wideman leg thing, but. 938 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 9: Way that's wrong. But all the length breaks to me. 939 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 9: I don't care who it is, especially Wideman. I just 940 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 9: like sometimes I'm laying in bed at night and I 941 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 9: think of that and I gotta like shake my hand. 942 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 8: Oh yes, So the Wiedman thing is is I have 943 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 8: a little visual post traumatic stressity. When he stepped backwards. Yeah, 944 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 8: that part of it is just is so raw in 945 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 8: my mind. Seems like he's doing great though. 946 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 9: What a yeah I told to him the other day. 947 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 9: He sounded way better for the first time that's good. 948 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 9: That's good, all right. 949 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 7: So it is Monday, May seventeenth, sixty ninth birthday to 950 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 7: my mother. Wouldn't that be something? 951 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 8: By the way, if if Ken Flow and Connor McGregor 952 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 8: both had baby boys on my mom's sixty ninth birthday, 953 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 8: we congratulate Connor on the birth of his son Ryan. 954 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 7: I believe Ryan McGregor. 955 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 9: Wow, congratulations, awesome. 956 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 7: I bet that kids savings account is gonna be fucked Ryan. 957 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 8: Congratulations. Welcome to Ireland. You don't have to work a 958 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 8: day in your life if you so choose. 959 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 7: Sorry, Hunter Anak. 960 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 8: Incidentally, you're gonna be digging ditches. I'm like your father. 961 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 8: We're at the golf course like you did. 962 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 9: All right, Hunter's getting a hammer in a box of 963 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 9: nails just to get them ready. Well. 964 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 8: I remember when I worked as an electricians assistant for 965 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 8: my late stepfather, Doug's Wit and my first day on 966 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 8: the job, we arrive at Dunkin Donuts on the Cape 967 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 8: and he hands me a sho and he says, I 968 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 8: need a three foot ditch around the entire building. 969 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 7: You know, we'll break for lunch in three hours. And 970 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 7: I said, here we go. You know, here's we go, 971 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 7: I love how to be a broadcast journalist. 972 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 9: So you're labor I am. I am a huge believer 973 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 9: that everybody needs those jobs. You need those jobs that 974 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 9: you when you get a little older, you go, I 975 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 9: never want to go back there again. I just I'll 976 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 9: do anything. And I think that's a huge thing. And 977 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 9: growing up and really defining your character and helping you 978 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 9: grow is that you got to grind it out while 979 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 9: you're young. I mean, I did all sorts of things. 980 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 9: I broke my fucking ass, But I look back now 981 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 9: and go, man, I would never do that again. I 982 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 9: don't I don't ever want to do that again. 983 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 5: Man. 984 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 9: I think it's crazy. 985 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 7: See, I would never work in the restaurant industry again. 986 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,439 Speaker 8: That was something that certainly certainly a lot of hard work, 987 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 8: and I just I don't want to sling plates anymore. 988 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 8: I guess for me, though, and certainly for my twin brother, 989 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 8: we kind of gravitate towards some of that manual labor. 990 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 8: I'm not talented enough to work in construction. I think 991 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 8: as a welder that field would probably chew me up 992 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 8: and spit me out pretty quickly. But I enjoy like 993 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 8: doing golf court maintenance, I enjoyed doing landscaping, you know, 994 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 8: I enjoyed the physical component, the workout component to those jobs. 995 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 8: So I could see at some point in my life, 996 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 8: you know, doing something physical again, just maybe one or 997 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 8: two days a week. 998 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 9: Of not landscaping landscape. I mean, look especially yeah, right, 999 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 9: that's that's that could be. Uh, you could decompress in 1000 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 9: your own thought. Well, like like I could do dishes 1001 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 9: all day. That's like I enjoy doing dishes. Right, It's like, honey, 1002 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 9: do you want to do you want to play with 1003 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 9: the babies or do you want. 1004 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 7: To do the dishes? 1005 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 8: Right, I'd like to do the dishes, honey, unless you 1006 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 8: want me to play with the babies. 1007 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 7: In which case I will uh happily go do childcare. 1008 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 8: People hate when you say, like your baby be sitting 1009 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 8: your kids or doing childcare. It's like, come on, you're parenting. 1010 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 8: It's your kid fucking childcare, okay, and. 1011 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 9: The hardest have the hardest job in the world. I'm 1012 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 9: telling you his parenting kids to me anyway, Yeah, no. 1013 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 5: It is. 1014 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 8: It is motherhood a little bit harder than father at 1015 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 8: least according to. 1016 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 9: What I read. Listen, I'll tell you there's no question 1017 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 9: in this household. That's a true state, because I basically 1018 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 9: am kind of useless. 1019 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, Cody Merrow were construction in the summers in New 1020 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 8: Hampshire from two thousand and eight to twenty fourteen. Now 1021 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 8: he's our producer and we're going to get to the 1022 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 8: pronunciation of the week right now. So Cody's one in 1023 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 8: five on the pronunciation of the week. So looking for 1024 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 8: a w wowdy Cody, what's up? 1025 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 9: Cochy? 1026 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 6: Come on? 1027 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 4: Ray? 1028 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 7: I mean, I can't be taking this from you too, 1029 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 7: from everybody else totally. So I got to meet this 1030 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 7: man in Houston. 1031 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 8: And Cody has done so much much for this show, 1032 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 8: and I've said he and our listeners, of course, are 1033 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 8: the lifeblood of this program. But we're Cody to get 1034 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 8: a lucrative offer from one of these production companies or 1035 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 8: marketing companies, we'd be in real trouble, right And I 1036 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 8: don't know if he would just completely give the two 1037 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 8: weeks notice and uh and kill us like that. But 1038 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 8: we appreciate everything you've done. I was I was able 1039 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 8: to sort of thank you in person, but I don't 1040 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 8: know if you're six to three. I never said it 1041 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 8: was six three year that's a narrative you're playing just 1042 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 8: like the fake Caitlyn and tap like I don't want 1043 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 8: to hear it. 1044 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 9: I agree that was you definitely didn't tap for sure, 1045 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 9: that was absurd. I mean I got been there and 1046 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 9: defend a little bit that. 1047 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 8: But Cody, thank you for all your contributions to this 1048 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 8: fine program, all the details on the video side. 1049 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 7: It's not lost on us. 1050 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 9: We appreciate you. 1051 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 6: Kidding well of course, like you said, life one of 1052 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:50,439 Speaker 6: the fans. 1053 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 5: We do this for the fans. That's why we don't 1054 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 5: get paid. Moving on to the pronunciation of. 1055 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 8: League, Cody, this man competes on the preblems this week 1056 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 8: in the UFC's lightweight division fights Hafel Alvez, who you 1057 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 8: may recall, is coming off the historically worst weight miss 1058 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 8: in the UFC history. He weighed one hundred and fifty 1059 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 8: seven and a hook for a featherweight fight. Wow, Cody Merrill, 1060 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 8: of whom am I speaking this week? 1061 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 5: So I think my issue here with the pronunciation of 1062 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 5: the week is I'm saying it too fluidly and I'm 1063 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 5: just gonna copy how I think he would say it, 1064 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 5: because I think that'll serve me a little better, because 1065 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 5: I would maybe say differentlydmir Is Magoulav. 1066 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 7: Let's hear him. 1067 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 9: Say he's smug. 1068 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a hit right there. It's good enough to me. 1069 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 5: But I feel like if I said it quicker, I 1070 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 5: would say damir Is Magoolov like as you would say 1071 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 5: in your combo package. 1072 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 6: But right, I don't know if Kenny would have given 1073 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 6: it to me. 1074 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 9: But you know, Russia, not even joking. Yeah, you'll have 1075 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 9: to man a bunch of gulah. 1076 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 6: Yeah that no, that was gaba ghul. 1077 00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:59,439 Speaker 7: You're at your local. 1078 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 9: I'll have to be Uh. 1079 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 7: I'll have the damir Isma gulab tonight. 1080 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 9: Please wow. 1081 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 8: Let me try the yan shaan on too, all right, 1082 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,439 Speaker 8: Cody Merrow two and five after a hit on the pronunciation. 1083 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 5: All right, you'll have to show me where that. I 1084 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 5: got to come out sometime. All these restrictions lifting. I 1085 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,320 Speaker 5: heard your Long Island's going to be open soon, so 1086 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 5: I'll have to make my way out there to you 1087 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 5: Russian spot. 1088 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 9: Yes, just oh yeah, yeah, I'll let you know we're 1089 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 9: going out with uh. We've been trying. Morob has been 1090 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 9: trying to take us out for about three weeks now, 1091 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 9: but of course there's one person who's never available mister 1092 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 9: crazy pants himself. 1093 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 8: But isn't that amazing though, that come twelve thirty Eastern 1094 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 8: last week, he was locked and ready to go clicked 1095 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 8: down the stream yard link. 1096 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 7: I'm just saying, right like, because. 1097 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 8: I think for for him, I was like, oh, it's 1098 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 8: a three hundredth episode, I better fucking show up, you know. 1099 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,240 Speaker 7: And he showed up in whatever condition. 1100 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 6: That's what we do, John, whatever condition. 1101 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 9: And well that's shout out. 1102 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 5: Shout out to John Annick for doing the turn and 1103 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 5: burn for this podcast, and we very much appreciate it 1104 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 5: as an audience, my friend, So. 1105 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:06,879 Speaker 7: Thank you, buddy. 1106 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 8: Hey, by the way, uh, Pat Militani, if you're listening, 1107 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 8: you win again. The masks have been lifted in Nevada. 1108 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 7: Did you see that? 1109 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 9: Oh wow? No good news. 1110 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 8: So joining the likes of Florida and Texas, it's like, oh, 1111 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 8: COVID nineteen is over. 1112 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 7: Doubt here, man, it's over in Texas. 1113 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 9: All right? You got anything else? Texas was a good environment. 1114 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 7: Well, certainly, yes, certainly. 1115 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 9: Quarantee did they quarantine at all? Or yeah? 1116 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,879 Speaker 7: I mean that was that was a little bit inconvenient. 1117 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 8: The friday, the Friday night quarantine, we had a rapid 1118 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 8: test on Wednesday, But yeah, two or three more COVID 1119 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 8: tests and uh, it is what it is. Happy to 1120 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 8: be working, right, happy to be working. You know, people 1121 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 8: don't like a lot of complaining. 1122 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 7: And that's the thing too. 1123 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,399 Speaker 8: A lot of fans are saying, oh, you know, people 1124 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 8: complain about the scoring without solutions. It's like, well, you're 1125 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 8: not listening to the Anakantoran podcast if you If you are, 1126 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 8: if you think we are short on solutions, right, I 1127 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 8: mean I've been I've been proposed with myriad solutions over 1128 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 8: the years. 1129 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 7: We've talked about half points. But if you think that 1130 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 7: we wield any power in this situation, that's that change. 1131 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 8: Right. 1132 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 9: Who do we talk to? I mean you see, I 1133 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 9: think that's part of the problem, the fact that they 1134 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 9: can make a statement like that, they don't understand the 1135 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 9: severity of the problem. 1136 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,800 Speaker 7: You can't let me talk to let me read the 1137 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 7: language for a ten ten round. Actually, you know what, 1138 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 7: I'm not going to do it, so let them. 1139 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 8: Let me just say to the audience here on the 1140 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 8: ten ten round, it exists in case of an incomplete round. 1141 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 8: That's really why it exists, so that in the case 1142 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 8: of an incomplete round where you had to score a 1143 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 8: ten to ten. 1144 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 7: They have that option. 1145 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 8: A ten ten round of MMA is a necessity to 1146 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 8: have for the judge's possible score, mainly due to scoring 1147 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 8: incomplete rounds. It is possible to have a round where 1148 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 8: both engaged for five minutes and at the end of 1149 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 8: the time period the output impact effectivist and overall competition 1150 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 8: between the two fighters is exactly the same. Possible, but 1151 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 8: highly unlikely. But again it's it's very much discouraged. All right, 1152 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 8: Enough about that, So what do you got going on 1153 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 8: this weekend? 1154 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,879 Speaker 9: This week man, I'm leaving Wednesday for the Mohican son. 1155 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 9: I have a Viv Gazali fighting at Bellatoy nice. Like 1156 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 9: I've talked about him before, he's a great kid. I 1157 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 9: think he just turned twenty. He's undefeated. The sky's the 1158 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 9: limit for his kid. He's got a lot of time 1159 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 9: to grow and I think, you know, he's getting good 1160 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 9: fights that are allowing him to grow. So we'll see 1161 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 9: how it goes this weekend. But he's right now, he's 1162 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 9: on a roll, man, and he's a sweetheart. He's a 1163 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 9: great kid, and he had a great camp and I'm 1164 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 9: expecting a great fight from him. 1165 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 7: Well that sounds great. 1166 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,400 Speaker 8: We'll drive safely, my man, and we will reconvene next Monday. 1167 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 8: In all likelihood, next Monday, we may do some sort 1168 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 8: of live Q and a type show just meet you 1169 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 8: and Kenny. Actually, because there is not a you see 1170 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 8: live event on Memorial Day weekend, so we might have 1171 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 8: a special episode next week. But uh, we'll follow up 1172 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,240 Speaker 8: with details. The only requirement for you, we're all shaving 1173 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 8: our heads before it. I don't know if that's a 1174 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 8: deal breaker or not, but we'll talk about that off 1175 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 8: the air. Oh yeah, it's a joke. 1176 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 7: You don't have to do that. Kenny literally wouldn't. I 1177 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 7: could offer him one bitcoin. 1178 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,240 Speaker 8: I could offer him one bitch one right now, probably 1179 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 8: valued at forty eight thousand dollars, and he wouldn't. 1180 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 9: I thought that was funny with Cody lining you and 1181 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 9: Matt up and me and Kenny up list week. 1182 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that was funny. Yes, great, I don't give 1183 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 7: a shit. It's I'm not bald, right, It's like I 1184 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 7: don't know, it's like sensitivity to it, like no, no, no. 1185 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 8: I no. 1186 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 9: If there was sensitivity too, I wouldn't even bust your 1187 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 9: bulls on it. That's not the I just thought it 1188 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,399 Speaker 9: was funny. No, of course, don't make anybody feel bad. 1189 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 9: I think Sarah's probably got his head though. 1190 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 7: Well, I know, like Daniel Cormier and I can grow hair. 1191 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 8: But I did a post on Instagram yesterday and I 1192 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,319 Speaker 8: wrote at the end of it, if you want us 1193 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 8: to grow out our here, we will not do it. 1194 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 8: And fans are like, yeah, because you can't, and it's like, bitch, stupid, 1195 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 8: you could take it. 1196 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 9: He's I listen, it was great chatting with you. I'm 1197 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 9: going back on that phrase. 1198 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 7: By the way. 1199 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 9: You know, wow, say it louder. The people couldn't hear you. Stupid. 1200 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 7: I'll complain it all right. 1201 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 8: Hey, I appreciate you stepping into Ken Flow shoes today. 1202 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 8: And next week we'll we'll we'll have extended time as well, 1203 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 8: and I wish all the best at Mohegan Sun and 1204 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 8: we'll talk to you in less than seven days. 1205 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 9: My brother, We'll be in touch, all right, guys, Take 1206 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 9: it easy. 1207 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 6: All right. 1208 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 8: That is it for the extended ray long a minute today, 1209 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 8: Let's get to some selections for UFC Fight and I 1210 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,919 Speaker 8: Font versus God Brant Wall to Wall on ESPN Plus 1211 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 8: coming up this Saturday, May twenty second at the ufc Apex. 1212 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 7: Let's get to the may of that chat event Challenge. 1213 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: Time is. 1214 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 5: Fas, how do you everything possible. 1215 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 6: To win the main event challenge? John Hennick and Kenny 1216 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 6: Florian podcast. 1217 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 8: All right, Team Florian not here of course to celebrate, 1218 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 8: but Kenny wins the week three to two, shaves the 1219 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,439 Speaker 8: overall lead down to thirteen sixty two to forty nine. 1220 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 8: Key fight for the winning week, Benil daryusch Over, Tony Ferguson, 1221 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 8: and we welcome in the Duck. Ian Parker on social 1222 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 8: media at Ian Parker m A, it's good to see you, 1223 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 8: my man. So Cody's gonna step in and offer some 1224 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 8: quick picks here for Ken flow, but I think Kenny 1225 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 8: probably would like to reserve the right to change these, 1226 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 8: so be on the lookout maybe for some content later 1227 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 8: in the week. So how do you feel about Cody 1228 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 8: stepping in here against you today? 1229 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 9: Ian? 1230 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 7: You feel okay about this? 1231 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 4: I think Kay needs all the help you can get, 1232 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 4: So why not someone like Cody was just at the events. 1233 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 3: Fresh and uh ready to go. 1234 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 8: You know what was interesting we were talking about it earlier, 1235 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 8: how Cody that Mike Grundy Landovanada fight live and then 1236 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 8: because of all the discourse about the scorecards, went and 1237 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 8: watched it at home, and he saw it for Vanada 1238 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 8: at home, but maybe for Grundy Love. 1239 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, this whole judging thing would keep 1240 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 4: talking about it. All it's gonna do is keep ruining guys' careers. 1241 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 4: I mean luckily. I mean, look, Lando won that fight 1242 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 4: thirty twenty seven either way was ridiculous. 1243 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 9: You know. 1244 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 4: It's just at what point does anybody step in and 1245 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 4: just be like, yo, these guys just can't do it anymore, 1246 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 4: or the scoring system has to be fine tuned. 1247 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I know everyone was talking. 1248 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 4: I don't want to go off top of the all 1249 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 4: of Aaron Michael Chandler round one being a ten eight. 1250 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 4: I don't really understand that one either, you know, I thought, 1251 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, you based to me they were 1252 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 4: basing that on the last forty five seconds of the fight. 1253 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 3: Which because it almost ended. But that's not the way 1254 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 3: to do it, man. 1255 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 8: I would just suggest that ninety five percent of people 1256 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 8: who don't understand why those ten eights were given out 1257 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 8: have not gone online to read the. 1258 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 7: Scoring, So that's part of the issue too. 1259 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 8: So I do encourage our viewers and our listeners to 1260 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 8: take the time to go to the ABC website to 1261 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 8: print that out to read it. And I know we 1262 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 8: read a lot of that for you today, But again 1263 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 8: there are a lot of us that are trying our 1264 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 8: best to interpret this based upon that. Cody, what were 1265 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 8: you saying real quick off the air about like a 1266 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 8: judge and how you think maybe there could be some 1267 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 8: value in having like credential lawyers in these seats. 1268 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 7: What were you saying off the air about that? 1269 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 5: So when I did this exercise and I texted Ian 1270 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 5: when I was in the crowd, I was like, I 1271 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 5: have no idea how they scored it that way. What 1272 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 5: I found to be the best way to score the 1273 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 5: fight was to take the criteria and read it after 1274 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 5: every round or before every round, I guess. 1275 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 6: And then what I did was I wrote an email 1276 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 6: to John and I. 1277 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 5: Wrote, this is why I had it this way because 1278 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 5: the way the scoring list out is highercle in that 1279 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 5: if A, then B, if not A, then c R correct. 1280 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 5: And so there was a lot of clauses I felt 1281 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 5: like I had to use in a legal perspective that 1282 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 5: were saying because of this specific language, this is why 1283 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 5: in ABC example, And so that's why I feel like 1284 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 5: there is a lot to be said for the credits 1285 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 5: of some of these judges. Like I my word really 1286 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 5: doesn't carry much weight, so I can say whatever I want. 1287 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 5: I'm not going to bash on judges, but like, who 1288 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 5: who's to say that some of these people are actually 1289 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 5: as smart as they're giving the opportunity to be, you 1290 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 5: know so and a lot of the times, how many 1291 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 5: times you know, I have elderly grandparents and I wouldn't 1292 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 5: trust them behind the wheel, but they have to go 1293 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 5: get retested. So like if the state says that they 1294 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 5: can drive a car, then like they can drive a car. 1295 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,919 Speaker 5: But like there are people going back to these people 1296 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 5: and be like sal Diamato, you've been doing this for 1297 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 5: fifteen years, Like what is your updated credentials? Like did 1298 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 5: you even look at the unified score in twenty seventeen? 1299 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 6: I don't know. 1300 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 5: So a little long winded, but that was my perspective. 1301 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 5: I don't I disagreed with Ray. I don't know how 1302 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 5: you could have a ten to nine for Vanada in 1303 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,439 Speaker 5: the first round of that fight. That was just where 1304 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 5: I when seeing it live. I told John, I said, 1305 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 5: I don't know how anyone could score the first two 1306 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,479 Speaker 5: rounds for Vanada. The second round is where I switch 1307 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 5: my opinion now home. 1308 01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 4: The problem is, too, is you're leaving this up to 1309 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 4: a lot of opinion of a few people that we 1310 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,040 Speaker 4: don't know how much they're paying attention at all times 1311 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 4: watching the fight. I mean, John, you even said I 1312 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 4: think it was either this week or last week that 1313 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 4: you guys are supposed to be look at your monitor. 1314 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 4: But how many times you get caught looking up at 1315 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 4: the actual fight, which may percent a different angle whatever 1316 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 4: it is. You know, for me, it's you have guys 1317 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 4: that also have been doing this a long time from boxing, 1318 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 4: you know, not necessarily from MMA with a strong MMA background, 1319 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 4: understanding the grappling you know, when you talk about you know, 1320 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 4: especially the Chukagian h Vivian. 1321 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 8: Real that's which part the boxing judges, all right, So 1322 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 8: even if that's not completely even if that's way to generalize, 1323 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 8: you know, some of these people aren't also as familiar 1324 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 8: in the grappling exchanges like to give number two. 1325 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 4: You know that's a problem also, But that listen, that 1326 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 4: that changes. This is the one sport where this is 1327 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 4: one of two sports of combat that can change someone's 1328 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 4: career based off someone's opinion as opposed to other sports 1329 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 4: where the rules are. You know, it's a little bit tighter, 1330 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 4: a lot tighter, right. 1331 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, Sean was saying, and he is sort of 1332 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 8: an expert on the you know, judge is a noun 1333 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 8: and divert right, and again just pointing people back to 1334 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 8: the language, right. 1335 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 7: It's like, oh, that's ridiculous. 1336 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 8: It's like, well, we're just trying to go based upon 1337 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 8: the language. All right, we got three picks for you today. 1338 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 8: This one first a little bit interesting. It's a fight 1339 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,280 Speaker 8: that Kenny and Ian picked last week, middleweight's Jackermanson minus 1340 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 8: one seventy five Edmund Schabazi and plus one thirty five 1341 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 8: odds courtesy of DraftKings sportsbook. Ian seems as though there 1342 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 8: was a COVID circumstance on the Hermanson side. We don't 1343 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 8: know necessarily if that was coach or fighter. I don't 1344 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 8: think it was him. If it were me, I would 1345 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 8: not be factoring this into my handicap. Who did you 1346 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 8: pick on the show last week? And ultimately are you 1347 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 8: staying with that selection? 1348 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 3: I'd touch Jack Romanson. I'm staying with him. To your point. 1349 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 3: I'm not factoring in COVID whatsoever. 1350 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 9: You know. 1351 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 3: I think his style is. 1352 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 4: More mirrored of the way Derek Brunson will fought Edmund 1353 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 4: Shabazi in and I think we saw that's a path 1354 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 4: to least resistance, and that's where I stand. 1355 01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 3: By that as well. 1356 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 8: If I'm not mistaken, Ken Flow was on the other 1357 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,280 Speaker 8: side Edmund Shabazi, and so we'll keep his pick intact 1358 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 8: from last week and he will reserve the. 1359 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 7: Right to change that. 1360 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 8: All right, co main event could very well produce the 1361 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 8: next title challenger for the UFC Strawway title, Yan Shounon 1362 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 8: minus one sixty seven versus Carla Esparza plus one thirty five. 1363 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 8: We'll need the round, the method of victory, all that stuff. 1364 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,200 Speaker 8: So Jan Chounan is already a huge deal in. Shana 1365 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 8: Dean Amssinger said when she walked into the UFCPI it 1366 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 8: was like Royalty walked in there. Twelve fight unbeaten street. 1367 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 8: She's won six in a row without a los since 1368 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 8: twenty ten. She did not fight in twenty eleven through fourteen, 1369 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 8: so fun to watch on the feet. Here she draws 1370 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 8: Carla Esparza, who has won four to row to move 1371 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 8: within striking distance of another title shot in all likelihood, Ian, 1372 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 8: I love this fight. Question is who do you have 1373 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 8: Jan Shannon or Carla Esparza. 1374 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 4: I like Chauonan here. I just think that she's going 1375 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 4: to be too strong of an athlete for Carla. I 1376 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 4: think she'll keep the fight standing as much as Carla. 1377 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,440 Speaker 4: Striking has definitely improved, and her entries on her takedowns 1378 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 4: have been a little bit less telegraphic. I do think 1379 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 4: that Charnon is just the way more complete fighter. I 1380 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 4: think she's also big for this way class. I think 1381 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 4: it's a different level of strength that we're seeing. She 1382 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 4: also knows how to use her range really well. If 1383 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 4: she keeps as Spars at a distance and forces her 1384 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 4: to shoot really far out, She's just gonna catcher coming 1385 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 4: in every time. 1386 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 3: And I think Shannan's a star in the making, not 1387 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 3: just where she's from, but here as well. 1388 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 4: I'm really excited for this one to see if she's 1389 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 4: got what it takes against a top contender and Asparsa. 1390 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 3: So I like Shannan here by decision. 1391 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 7: Good analysis. 1392 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 8: I like the matchup Cody Asparsa pretty remarkable last win 1393 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 8: split decision over Marina Hadriguez also beat Michelle Waterson, Alexa Grosso, 1394 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 8: and Vina Jangi Doba during this streak. I mean that 1395 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 8: is an impressive wins list, hell of a career overall. 1396 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 8: She's got the head to head win over thug rosanama Unis, 1397 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 8: and that is an important layer because we're as Sparsa 1398 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 8: to get through this Yan Chuan challenge. She might be 1399 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,600 Speaker 8: next for Rose. I think that's a fight that would 1400 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 8: really appeal to rosanama Unis. What do you think, Cody 1401 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 8: comine event shoun on Asparsa, Who wins? 1402 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 7: How do they get it done? On behalf of Team Florida. 1403 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 5: Well, if I'm an odds maker, I don't know how 1404 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 5: Yan Shannan isn't a minus two hundred minus two fifty favorite. 1405 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,680 Speaker 5: Picking here on behalf of Team florian I think I 1406 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 5: have to go with Carlos Barza, the Cookie Monster. We 1407 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 5: both we both have a victory over Vina Jingi Doba, 1408 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 5: So I think I have to go as Sparsa because 1409 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 5: of the deficit here. But Kenny's probably gonna say shout 1410 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 5: on by decision, That's what I'm going to bet. 1411 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 3: But Cody's taking Carlo By knockout in the first round. 1412 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, do you have a rounded a method of victory 1413 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 7: for us? I love the way. This is the way 1414 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 7: it should be done. 1415 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 8: When you're trailing, you have to find I know it's 1416 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 8: only May, right, but you have to find opportunities. I'm 1417 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 8: not saying this fight is the right one, per se, 1418 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 8: but like when there's a plus four sixty underdog like 1419 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 8: Ken't blow's got to start taking some flyers on those 1420 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 8: and you can be sure he's not listening back. So, uh, 1421 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 8: all right, So how is Carlos Barza winning this fight? 1422 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 6: Cody No by decision? 1423 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 3: All right, but that's fine by knockout the first round. 1424 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 6: I don't think that. 1425 01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, Ian, we're gonna have you lead the main event 1426 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 8: just because flows not here. And I'm going to do 1427 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,480 Speaker 8: this entire prediction in a Boston accent out of respect 1428 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 8: for Rob Font. So some of the listeners really like this, 1429 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 8: some of them do not. Kind of like the mustache. Well, 1430 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,040 Speaker 8: Rob Font out of New England, more specifically, Lemons to 1431 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 8: Massachusetts actually fights out of Wooburn. 1432 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 7: If I'm not mistaken. 1433 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 8: Hopefully Bruce Buffer or Joe Martinez won't fuck that up 1434 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 8: for everybody. 1435 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 7: This weekend. 1436 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 8: Rob font Minus won twenty one Cody No Love, God 1437 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 8: Brant even money underdog will need the round the method 1438 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,800 Speaker 8: of victory. So font In on the brink of his 1439 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 8: first UFC title shots stop Milon Morice last year Decembn nineteenth, 1440 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 8: third straight win. On the other side, Cody No Love 1441 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 8: needed a win last June at UFC two to fifty, 1442 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,880 Speaker 8: and man did he get it. I'm being told hafe 1443 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,760 Speaker 8: Ela Sunsaw is actually still unconscious that vicious knockout was 1444 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 8: all the way back in June of twenty twenty, but 1445 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 8: it did position garb Brand of course for this main 1446 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 8: event title eliminata against Rob font Ian Parker who wins 1447 01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 8: the main event on ESPN Plus. 1448 01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 7: And how do they get it done? 1449 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,400 Speaker 3: Don't even if I want to attempt that act, said 1450 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 3: Rob Faant. But uh not bad, not bad, not bad. 1451 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 3: It sounded almost like borat somehow I almost went that way. 1452 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 3: That was weird. 1453 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 4: My apologies to all the Bostonians out there, But yeah, 1454 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 4: you know what with Cody's knockout over our Sun's out 1455 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 4: here's my thing. He threw that punch, he wound up 1456 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,719 Speaker 4: from the hit. That does not work on a striker 1457 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 4: like Rob Thont, who will jab you twenty five times 1458 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 4: before you could even throw that. I mean that was 1459 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,559 Speaker 4: like a video game power punch where you literally hold 1460 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 4: on to the button and release it and he lets 1461 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,560 Speaker 4: go of all his power does take away from the 1462 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 4: knockout and the sunset was extremely tough. But I just 1463 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 4: think Rob Fond has had a point in his career 1464 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,840 Speaker 4: where everything's finally coming together. This is the guy we've 1465 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,400 Speaker 4: been waiting for. You know, He's with a good team, 1466 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 4: and I'm not just saying that because of their friends 1467 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 4: of the show. I think his striking is one of 1468 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 4: the best in the division. We saw against Marion Morice 1469 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 4: and his takedown defense has gotten way better. 1470 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,599 Speaker 3: You know, Cody is a good wrestler, but he doesn't 1471 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,839 Speaker 3: use it. He's just super confident in his boxing. 1472 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 4: But as we've seen, you know, when he gets into 1473 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 4: these brawls, he usually loses. 1474 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 3: And I just think that is the smarter fighter. I 1475 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 3: think he's gonna come a little bit more prepared. Not 1476 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:04,479 Speaker 3: that I don't like Cody. 1477 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:05,800 Speaker 4: I've been a fan of Cody for a long time, 1478 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 4: but I think Rob Font wins this by decision. 1479 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:13,080 Speaker 8: Cody Merrow not Cody like a member of the New 1480 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,560 Speaker 8: England Hotel. So Cody, we know you probably go and 1481 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 8: Rob Font. The question is how does he get it done. 1482 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,640 Speaker 5: Rob Font is gonna win this fight by decision, but 1483 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 5: for the purposes of the show, Cody Garbrent's. 1484 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,719 Speaker 6: Gonna win by decision needs the points. 1485 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:28,800 Speaker 7: I don't right Kenny. 1486 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,200 Speaker 6: Kenny won't do it, so I get to do it 1487 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 6: for him. 1488 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 4: And if he can change and he wants to throw 1489 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,800 Speaker 4: me some bitcoin, he can, and well he could buy 1490 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 4: points back. 1491 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 3: That'd be interesting, how about that? 1492 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 5: Well, and I have I've seen some intel via Aljamin 1493 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,600 Speaker 5: Sterling's Instagram that they're spending time with the cartels. 1494 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 6: So I got a roll with Rob Font, but not 1495 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 6: for the show. 1496 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 7: And one thing on the Boston accent. 1497 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 8: And there are a lot of actors who do it well, 1498 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 8: a lot of them who don't do it particularly well. 1499 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:54,680 Speaker 7: But with the letter R. 1500 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 8: So if it's in the middle of a word, you 1501 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 8: basically kill it right, just have it right, fucking have it. 1502 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,280 Speaker 8: But if it's at the end of the word, like car, 1503 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 8: you don't say car, you say car, and people are 1504 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 8: confused on that. You know, it's like pack the car 1505 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 8: and have a JAD. It's not packed the car. It's 1506 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 8: packed the car and fucking have a JAD. And that's 1507 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 8: enough on that. When's the next PFL broadcast? 1508 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:20,519 Speaker 9: Kid? 1509 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,880 Speaker 3: June tenth? Uh, June tenth. 1510 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a little bit, have a nice little 1511 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,799 Speaker 4: break ESPN Plus and ESPN two, then Thursday and Thursday 1512 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 4: after that, and then a month off and then back. 1513 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,439 Speaker 3: To back to back and then uh yeah it's uh. 1514 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 6: Let me bow about it. 1515 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:38,840 Speaker 5: At one of these times it's going to be Longo, 1516 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 5: Parker and Florian all it's like on a PFL event soon. 1517 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 7: Yep, I think. 1518 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 3: Together he's not gonna know what to do with himself. 1519 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 8: Maybe CODYO will go in there and uh and produce 1520 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 8: some content. Are seeing in on the PFL broadcast June tenth? 1521 01:10:58,800 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 9: Uh? 1522 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,679 Speaker 8: No show next week at least in terms of predictions, buddy, 1523 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 8: We know UFC love of that Memorial Day weekend, but 1524 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,800 Speaker 8: we will talk to you in advance of that June 1525 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,280 Speaker 8: fifth show and big one of course on the twelfth 1526 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:09,960 Speaker 8: with UFC two six'. 1527 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:10,720 Speaker 7: Three thank you. 1528 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 8: Bro, yeah, guys all, right there's the duck At Ian 1529 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 8: parker mma and that should just about do it for. 1530 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,000 Speaker 8: TODAY i don't believe That Ken flow is a father 1531 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,320 Speaker 8: of two just, yet but he has gone doc on. 1532 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:29,040 Speaker 8: Me so that's a wrap on episode three oh. One, 1533 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,120 Speaker 8: cody thanks for your. Contributions do you have any parting 1534 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,439 Speaker 8: shop before you get out of? Here it seems like 1535 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 8: you do something About may. Babies you know my birthdays On. 1536 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,800 Speaker 5: Saturday kenny's A may, baby so something About taurus men 1537 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:39,680 Speaker 5: and happy for. 1538 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 6: That i'm coding maw the son. D that's. 1539 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,799 Speaker 8: Good happy birthday to my mom Born may, seventeenth nineteen fifty. 1540 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 8: Two thanks to everybody for. Listening thanks to all the 1541 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,640 Speaker 8: listeners and viewers who came up to. Me took pictures 1542 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 8: at the arena and at the host, hotel and so 1543 01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 8: many of you were talking about The Anakin flooring, podcast 1544 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,240 Speaker 8: which really warms my hat because it really is my 1545 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 8: way to get back to all of you find, people 1546 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,160 Speaker 8: SO i appreciate. 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Now everybody have 1556 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 8: a great, week even You Patty milita. 1557 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:35,559 Speaker 6: Feel it. 1558 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,759 Speaker 5: Previously on The anak And florian. 1559 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:44,280 Speaker 4: Podcast very very hard fight to cap. Here you, know 1560 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 4: we don't know What Shedman shabasi and we're gonna get 1561 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,760 Speaker 4: after that last. Loss he's been out for a, while you, 1562 01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 4: know and you, know obviously we saw him controlled By 1563 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 4: derek against the cage jacket might present him a lot of. 1564 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 3: Problems you. 1565 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 4: Know If jack's, smart he bul rushes, him put him 1566 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,200 Speaker 4: against the kje and brings him down real. Quick i'm 1567 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 4: Hoping shabazian is working on, that BUT i just can't 1568 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,680 Speaker 4: rely on that knockout power getting done so. 1569 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,640 Speaker 3: Quick jack's experiences wought the best of the. 1570 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 4: Best you, know when you get your first, loss it's 1571 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 4: so hard to judge how these young guys come back so. 1572 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,160 Speaker 3: Quickly SO i have to think that the fight at 1573 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 3: qu Of hermanson gets it. 1574 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,519 Speaker 4: DONE i Think kenny might be licking his chops here 1575 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 4: at a value Planning shabazi and striking so, maybe but 1576 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 4: again too is In kenny's. 1577 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 3: Blood i'm gonna go With jack. 1578 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 1: Here probably the first seven eight minutes is going to 1579 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,800 Speaker 1: be most dangerous for. Him that's Where shabazion can really take. 1580 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,080 Speaker 1: Advantage i'm gonna take that. Bet i'm actually gonna go 1581 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,439 Speaker 1: With shabazi in. Here but as you guys, SAID i 1582 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 1: mean not a whole lot of people go out there and. 1583 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,200 Speaker 1: Finish romancon Her medson has a chip from. Hell But 1584 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,640 Speaker 1: i'm gonna take That campbell BECAUSE i need some motherfucking. 1585 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 9: Points