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Speaker 1: of Texas All Access from Monday Texans Or Radio Studio.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, Sean Harris, football y hoofs, a

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Speaker 1: solid reporter and so glad to be doing all Access.

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Speaker 1: As I said, the last couple of nights, because that

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Speaker 1: the Texans are getting ready for a Sunday matchup with

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium. Cannot wait. So

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Speaker 1: we have got you covered on this show as we

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Speaker 1: have the last couple of nights. How about a little

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Speaker 1: Taiwan Jones one on one presented by Kes Fitty with

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Speaker 1: Deep City. We've got that for you. How about my

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Speaker 1: man Dirty Red Clint Sterning, He's gonna join me at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of this hour. Then we're gonna have our

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Kevin Coogler. And you're like, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: off with some hot reads and they brought to you

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Speaker 1: and start with the head coach of your Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: that being Bill O'Brien, And he was asked a lot

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Speaker 1: we're all having fun, we all believe in each other

430
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Speaker 1: and what we're doing. And you know, it helps when

431
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Speaker 1: you got coaches like see Lee and Bill O'Brien who

432
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: takes pride and you know and take pride to the

433
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Speaker 1: guys that that's coming in so so special teams. But

434
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: then you also get to go in and a playoff

435
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: postseason game in overtime as part of the offense. How

436
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: special was it because knowing that you're a special team's

437
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: got you're a core special teams player to get to

438
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Speaker 1: line up on offense because I know that everyone's got

439
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: their positions that they're here to play, but that sort

440
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: of takes a back seat to special teams. How cool

441
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: was it to go out there and make a play

442
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: on the offense? Oh man, it was awesome. Uh. Like

443
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: you said, anytime we're out on the field, we want

444
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 1: to be we want to make an impact. And to

445
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Speaker 1: be out there on offense and to get the opportunity

446
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Speaker 1: to play him all position and get the ball in

447
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: that type of crucial moment, it was everything. It was

448
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: very special to me when the play call came in

449
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: and you knew that that was that it was going

450
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Speaker 1: to be. You mean, what was going through your mind? Well? Really,

451
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: I was just thinking, you know, just do my job.

452
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Speaker 1: I didn't think too much of it. I didn't. I

453
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: wasn't sure if I'll get the ball or not. But

454
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Speaker 1: when I did, in my head, I'm like, take advantage

455
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Speaker 1: of this opportunity. As soon as I got the ball,

456
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: I was thinking, takes it out, So I'm sure You've

457
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: got a lot of people out there thinking, Hey, this

458
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: guy needs to get the ball some more. He's got

459
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Speaker 1: some he's got some wheels on him. Bill Ryan said

460
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Speaker 1: something really interesting. He said that in camp they liked

461
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Speaker 1: you so much, he was they thought about switching in

462
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Speaker 1: to cornerback. You played cornerback before, right in college? Yeah.

463
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: I got my scholarship for Easton Wasson him for a corner.

464
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: I played two years with the Raiders at corner. I

465
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: didn't get many much game time, but I have I have,

466
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Speaker 1: you know, knowledge of the position, and you know, I

467
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: play against the gunners on special teams, so I get

468
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: reps at being a corner. I'm very familiar with it.

469
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you played corner for the Raiders as well.

470
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Speaker 1: When did you switch back to running back? Um? After

471
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen left and the new coaches came in, then

472
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Speaker 1: I switched back to running back. That's unusual, like in

473
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Speaker 1: the NFL to switch positions like that. Was that was

474
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Speaker 1: that your choice? Was it challenging? How was that for you? Um?

475
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a guy that if I'm on a roster,

476
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Speaker 1: I want to make a difference. I want to make

477
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Speaker 1: an impact whatever I can do to help the team

478
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: has always been my mindset. So whatever position that need

479
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Speaker 1: help feeling, I'm willing to do it. And you know,

480
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm very competitive. So if it's a corner, if it's

481
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Speaker 1: running back, or if it's a special teams, I'm willing

482
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Speaker 1: to do it because I'm just excited to you know,

483
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Speaker 1: I'm excited for the one on one competitions. That's that's

484
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: what gets me going on Sundays. All Right, I read

485
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 1: somewhere that you really struggled, um in high school and

486
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: you were diagnosed with dyslexia, but like really late in

487
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: high school as well? How how did that affect your

488
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: playing in high school or college? Does that still affect you?

489
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Speaker 1: I mean, how how does one deal with that? Like

490
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Uh, when I was diagnosed, Um, I

491
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: guess for me, it was just understanding. Okay, Uh, this

492
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: is why it's a little harder for me. This is

493
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: what I need to do to you know, learn something.

494
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: It's just understanding who I was and what works for me. Um.

495
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: Since I've been in the league, it hasn't affected me

496
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Speaker 1: too much. Most of the coaches they understand, you know, Uh,

497
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: they understand what I struggle with. Man it really doesn't

498
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: affect me much. I guess you've known about it long enough.

499
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Speaker 1: What about the kids that might be listening that are

500
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: struggling with What sort of advice do you have because

501
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: you obviously overcame it and you're performing at a really

502
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: high level. Um, don't don't let you know whatever you

503
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: struggle with, be a crutch. Don't feel sorry for yourself,

504
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: don't feel down on yourself. Just worked out much harder. Um.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I did. That was the approach I took. Yeah,

506
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: I have a I have a you know whatever, you

507
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: want to call it a disability, But I don't look

508
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: at it at that. I don't look at it as that.

509
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Speaker 1: I'm just different. I learned different. So let's talk. I

510
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Speaker 1: want to talk to you about your running backs group,

511
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: because they Duke Johnson Carlos had. Those guys were so

512
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Speaker 1: happy for you after that win against Buffalo. What's that

513
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Speaker 1: room been like because you were sort of the veteran

514
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: and you only got here what in the off season

515
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: May May or so and then and then you're a

516
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: sort of the wily veteran because Duke Carlos, they all

517
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Speaker 1: came much later. Obviously, Buddy Hollow was here, but then

518
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: Colin was also a rookie as well. What's what's the

519
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: dynamics like in that group? Oh, the Mama brothers. We

520
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: like a big family in there. Uh, whenever anybody makes

521
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: a play, we're all equally excited as if it's us

522
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: making a play. So, uh, for me to get the

523
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: call and against again against my former teammates, they know

524
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Speaker 1: what that game meant for me. During the game. Uh,

525
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Speaker 1: Duke saw my frustration when we were down a lot,

526
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Speaker 1: and he kept coming up to me and saying, you know,

527
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: I got to, I got to. It just shows that

528
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: you know what this game means, what this game means

529
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 1: to me, and oh, I got you meaning because it's

530
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: your former team, you really wanted to win, right. So

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Speaker 1: every time he win in the game, he was playing

532
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: like he was playing for me, and it just shows

533
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Speaker 1: you know how close we are. So when my number

534
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: was called and he got to watch me make that play,

535
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Speaker 1: knowing what it meant for me, he was he was

536
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Speaker 1: very excited. Is everyone gonna do that for Carlos again

537
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: this week? And although Carlos had a great game the

538
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: first time against Kansas City, Oh no doubt. You know,

539
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: we asked players. We understand what it means when you

540
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: go against a team that may have passed on you

541
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Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. We know it means

542
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: just a little more. So we definitely play a little harder.

543
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: Not that we don't play hard all the time, but

544
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: we didn't understand what it means to each player to

545
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: play against their former teams. All right, good stuff, We've

546
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: really had a lot of fun watching you. Hopefully we

547
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: get to see you for many, many more games to come.

548
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Speaker 1: Taiwan Jones, thanks so much for joining us Deeps, thanks

549
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: for having me. He's been doing it all year on

550
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: special teams. If you've been paying close attention, you've seen

551
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: thirty four makes some huge plays on special teams, and

552
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: he came through with maybe the most important offensive play

553
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: of the year to this point. To this point, that's key.

554
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: That's Taiwan Jones with DP City. Okay, we get back

555
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: my man Dirty Red's gonna step in and give us

556
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: his thoughts about what he saw Saturday, what he wants

557
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: to see improved, what he liked about the second half,

558
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: Getting ready for Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City, and all

559
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Speaker 1: that goes with this playoff game. Clint Sterners with Meat

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Speaker 1: next on Texans All Access. Welcome back to a Wednesday

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Speaker 1: initiation of Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: I am John Harris, your host for the evening, and

563
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Speaker 1: I'm joined now by a good friend. We've had a

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Speaker 1: chance to catch up the year, and I absolutely love

565
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: this segment more than any other I do. This week.

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Speaker 1: You can hear him on Sports Radio six ten from

567
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: two to six, and you definitely want Sports Radio six

568
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: ten on all week because twenty four to seven, three

569
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: sixty five, they got it going live talking Texans and

570
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs and Texans and what they did against the Bills

571
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: and joining me right now. You can hear him from

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Speaker 1: two to six. My man, Clint Starner, Clint, how you doing,

573
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: my man? Man? I'm doing good, Hey, Johnny. I know

574
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: we're getting in the playoffs in its late this seasion, man,

575
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: but this is my favorite segment. But between me and you,

576
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: we can chew up some oxygen. Baby. We need to

577
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: make it one of them thirty minute segments or something.

578
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. We do need to

579
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: do that. We absolutely we barely have enough time to

580
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: fit it into this segment, so I know exactly what

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00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about, My brother, I know exactly what you're

582
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: talking about. Clint down sixteen and nothing. Offense hadn't done

583
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Speaker 1: a whole lot against the Buffalo Bills. What were your

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00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: thoughts at that particular moment when the Texans got the

585
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: ball after JJ sack they forced the field goal? But

586
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: what were you thinking about the offense at that particular

587
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: moment as they got that drive started that would eventually

588
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: turn things around? But before that, what were you thinking? Well,

589
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: just here we go again, you know, here we go

590
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: again with one of those um Houdini disappearing acts of production.

591
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: You know, for whatever reason, it doesn't it doesn't matter.

592
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: We don't need to get into that right now. But um,

593
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, just one of those spells of two quarters.

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00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: You hope it doesn't run into four quarters. Uh. And

595
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: and I mean you just you can't explain it. Um.

596
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: But before it was an extremely frustrating first half of football.

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00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: And um, it's one of those things that they're lucky

598
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: that they were playing the Buffalo Bills. That And I

599
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: say that in a sense, I don't mean it disrespectfully.

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00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: Just it was a more defensive ball control. Uh. When

601
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: when the time of possession type of team. They weren't

602
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: real dangerous offensively, So luckily that drive spell on offense

603
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: only meant a sixteen oh deficit and not something bigger

604
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: like it could be with some of these offenses that

605
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: are in the playoffs. So if you're gonna have a

606
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: dry spell first half against Buffalo and wildcard round, is

607
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: the time to do it. Clute, We've talked about this

608
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Speaker 1: a little bit on our shows, and I know that

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Speaker 1: you have as well. What was it in your mind

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00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: that sort of flipped the script for the offense that

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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, got it going, got it out

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00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 1: of its malaise, because it felt like on that drive

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Speaker 1: where they went down and scored it, it looked like

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00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: a completely different offense, a completely different team, and then

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Speaker 1: they carried that through for the most part for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the game. But in your opinion, what was

617
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Speaker 1: it that sort of flipped in your mind for this

618
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: offense to kind of get it get it in gear basically? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think schematically, I think you know that. I think

620
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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien come out of the locker room at halftime

621
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Speaker 1: and realized that he was gonna have to use Deshaan

622
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Speaker 1: Watson in the run game, and most people out there

623
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Speaker 1: don't understand it and don't understand what's different because a

624
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: lot of it looks the same. But in the first

625
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: half of the game, he's clearly it's a run it call,

626
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: he's handing it. They're trying to establish a run. And

627
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: then in the second half, obviously the momentum swung. But

628
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: there was a conscious effort to get Deshaun Watson involved

629
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Speaker 1: in that game. And when you get Deshaun Watson involved

630
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: with his feet in the game, then all of a sudden,

631
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: they've got the defense has to adjust to stop at

632
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: now hot gets going. Now now you know that the

633
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: priority is stopping the run game, particularly with I mean,

634
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: obviously Duke Johnson had a great game and Carlos I contributed,

635
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: but when you get when you add the element of

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, it is a real scare tactic. It is

637
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Speaker 1: one of those where defensive coordinators have to find a

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00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: way to stop the bleeding. And when you stop that bleeding,

639
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: you got one of the best receivers, if not the

640
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: best receiver in the league, Roman Free in the secondary,

641
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: and Deshaun was able to find him a couple of times.

642
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Speaker 1: So I think schematically. I think Bill O'Brien made a

643
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: conscious effort to get him, get him involved with his feet,

644
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: and then I think, you know, I think Deshaun Watson

645
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: he's got to find a way to do it coming

646
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 1: out of the gate in the first half. But I

647
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: think Deshaun Watson obviously turned he flipped the switch and said, hey,

648
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna run around back here and behind the

649
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and try to make plays. When protection

650
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: breaks down or when somebody doesn't create separation, I'm gonna

651
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: put my foot in the ground. I'm gonna get north

652
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: and go get three or four yard And that those

653
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: two things combined really helped them stay ahead of the chains.

654
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: It created a couple of big plays, and man, it

655
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: fed off of the momentum that JJ Watt created with

656
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: the sack. They just didn't kill the momentum. They kept

657
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: it rolling with an aggressive approach. Man, and it was

658
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: enough this week to get the w and dramatic fashion

659
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: in Houston loved it. Speaking of JJ Watt, did you

660
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: now we've seen JJ do some some pretty amazing things, Clint,

661
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: did you see kind of the impact that he was

662
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: gonna have on the game quite like he did on Saturday,

663
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: especially that sack, but he was getting the second half,

664
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: he was getting the Josh Allen numerous times. Were you

665
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: surprised at all that JJ was able to have that

666
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: kind of impact coming back from the injury that he had. Yeah, Look,

667
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean to think that he was able to to

668
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: to press you know, offensive lineman off of him in

669
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: the run game and in the in the past, rush

670
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: um to think that he would he was able to. Uh,

671
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: you know the scarier part to me is when he

672
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: dies for somebody, or when he falls down and he

673
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: puts his hands his palms on the turf to braces

674
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, his two hundred and seventy pound frame. You

675
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: know that that's pretty taxing on a on the peck

676
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: as far as catching that conjolting that that peck. I mean,

677
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: so all in all, there's no doubt about it. I was.

678
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: I was. I mean, it was remarkable the way that

679
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: he was able to survive four quarters much less play

680
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: and have the impact that he had. Now I did.

681
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: It did not surprise me John that the response to

682
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: if he were to make a big play, I said

683
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: it earlier in the week. If you can get one

684
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: or two big plays out of out of J J. Watt.

685
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: It's great from a production standpoint, But what that means

686
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: for all of a sudden, uh, Whitney, Merciless and Jacob

687
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: Martin are legitimately for four quarters gonna be getting free.

688
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: The crowd is gonna be sit on the edge of

689
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: their seat. Deshaun watching will respond. So I was not

690
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: surprised that if he could make those plays, I was

691
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: not surprised at the momentum shift and what it meant

692
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: to the outcome of the game. Yeah, it was a

693
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: pretty distinct, uh overturning momentum when he got that sack.

694
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, and everybody it seemed to seemed to

695
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: feed off of that offense, defense and even special team. Johnny,

696
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: if you watch it, man, like I watched, and I

697
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: don't know why I do this, but but instead of

698
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: just enjoying the game, I probably like you do you

699
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: want he tried to find the details and watch guys

700
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: after plays, And man, I watched him after that sack,

701
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: and he went straight to the sideline and immediately him

702
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: and DeShawn watching having exchange. He goes to the to

703
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: the bunch of the teammates and I'm guessing he was

704
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: saying a all right, I'll come home, let's go as tie,

705
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: and that's that's the trigger right there. And then he

706
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: talks to the crowd and the crowd goes goes wild,

707
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: and look a lot of that show, I get it,

708
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: a lot of it as a character that JJ Watty is.

709
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that disrespectfully. I mean that with

710
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: the utmost respect. But when in that moment, when it's

711
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson teammates fan, I think that's genuine, sincere and

712
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: I think that it is an absolute game changer. And

713
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: so it was big this week, man, no doubt about it. Yeah, Clean,

714
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: you bring up a great point because the one thing

715
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: that I noticed was, you know, after JJ gets a sack,

716
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: and this is pretty much every player throughout the league,

717
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: they get a sack and they've got some sort of

718
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: sack dance or some sort of sack celebration. You know,

719
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: somebody's doing the robot, you know, somebody's doing a salute,

720
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: whatever the case might be. And JJ will usually do

721
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: a salute or he's got some sack dance. After he

722
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: sacked Alan, he got up and he's miked up and

723
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: he's like, let's go, let's go. There were about a

724
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: dozen guys that ran over to him at that particular moment,

725
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: almost as if the guys realized what he had been

726
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: through to get on the field and then he turns

727
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: in that to take their play. It was almost like

728
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: the guys responded to that because they all sort of

729
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: flooded to him out on the field. If you would

730
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: have taken a still shot, you would have seen Hi

731
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: about a dozen guys around him celebrating, which you don't

732
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: normally see. You see him celebrate, maybe celebrates to a

733
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: couple of guys. Everybody was running on the field for

734
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: the fuel goal of the defense. They all celebrated with him.

735
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: I think you bring up a great point, and I

736
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: saw that like right before he went over to the sideline.

737
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I catch those little things as well.

738
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: And there was one right after the Hopkins fumble with

739
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: Whitney Merciless and but Ardrick McKinney that I noticed on

740
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: the field too, where right before that sack, where those

741
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: two guys were like exhorting their teammates like come on,

742
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: we've got to stop him here, like we can do this,

743
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: We've done this before. Let's dude, again, so you're right,

744
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: you and I probably see some of those things that

745
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: maybe other people missing. Hopefully people like to listen to

746
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: us talk about it because we end up seeing it.

747
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: Now it's Kansas City, Clint. It's a guy in Patrick

748
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 1: Mahomes who the Texas have seene saw him in Week six,

749
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: had Travis Kelsey, Tyreek Hill at his disposal, did not

750
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: have Sammy Watkins. His offensive line is a little different.

751
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't think his offensive line is great. But I

752
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: think one thing that's developed for Kansas City over the

753
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: last few weeks is Damian Williams in the running game,

754
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: and that's been problematic for teams as you get a

755
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: few for Kansas City and you think about stopping that offense, Clint,

756
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: what do you think end up being the keys is

757
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: stopping them and of course slowing down Patrick Mahome, Well,

758
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: I think you got to limit their opportunities. I mean,

759
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: this is a week where I use the term loosely

760
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: because I hate the term. But established the RUnni offers

761
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: the side of the football with Deshaun Watson, um, it's

762
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: established a run to keep it out of their hands.

763
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: All the Coats speak that we hear and we use Um,

764
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: you've got to You've got to limit their possessions. You've

765
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: got you gotta, you gotta take advantage of every opportunity

766
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: that they give you. I mean, look the Texans, whether

767
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: it's Bradley Roby, um, you know, or or Lonnie Johnson

768
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: in the secondary, I think they're a good matchup. I

769
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: think they've got good matchups. I went back and watched

770
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: that film from week six this morning. Um, you know,

771
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they don't know they match up really well.

772
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned about Jalilada being out and kay

773
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: Shawn Gibson being out and how they how they respond

774
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: and how they replace those guys versus versus Kansas City.

775
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: But look, man, they're gonna come out. I think that

776
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: they they may, um, they may loosen up a little bit.

777
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: If you're gonna try to attack this Houston team, I

778
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: think the way to do it is to attack them

779
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: through the air. Now, they'll use their backs obviously in

780
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: the run game and in the scat game. But but

781
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: I just I think I think the biggest thing that

782
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: I expect is Pat Mahomes to put the team on

783
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: his back and try to go score forty five points.

784
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: I just know that's the way I think it's gonna

785
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: come out of the shoots. Um. Depending on how the

786
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: game unfolds, I think they'll adjust accordingly. But if I'm

787
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: the Texans, I'm expecting a lot of Pat mahomes H

788
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: throwing the ball around the park. I know, as of

789
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: late they hadn't necessarily done a ton of scoring, but

790
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't sleep on these guys the way that

791
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: that people were talking about New England maybe not having

792
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: the firepower. I don't know. If that's the case of

793
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: Kansas City, I would expect him to come out and

794
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: try to put up a boatload of point. Yeah, I'm

795
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: with you. I got a feeling that they'll kind of

796
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: read how this game is gonna go. And I know

797
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: their defense apparently has been better. I get that, But

798
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: I saw the LA Chargers moved the ball up and

799
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: down the field on them. And the Chargers don't have

800
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: a great offensive line, and they've got some good skill players,

801
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: but the Chargers moved the ball down the field. They

802
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: just couldn't put the dad gum thing in the end

803
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: zone and then blew a couple of four downs that

804
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: were key. Uh, the Chargers shot themselves in the foot.

805
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: So if I'm Pattrick Mahomes, I'm thinking I don't want

806
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: this in the hands of my defense, sort of like

807
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: it was in Week six. I gotta put it on myself.

808
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: I think you're I think you're dead right about that claim, Johnny.

809
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: Look at it, bro. I mean it was seventeen to sixteen,

810
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: if I if I remember correctly, into the first half

811
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: of Week six, and the Texans started that a half

812
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: and ended that half literally started and ended that half

813
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: with the turnover they got. They got no U and

814
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: no calls went their way. Um. I mean the Kansas

815
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: City Chiefs, they threw up a prayer to Tyreekiell he

816
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 1: climbs the ladder and goes and gets it ill advised

817
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: throw that just happens to work out. They get two

818
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: plays that are that are questionable penalties that convert third downs.

819
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: I mean, everything went Kansas City's way, and it was

820
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: a seventeen to six ball game. After the Texans fell

821
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: fell behind seventeen to three, man, you cannot play now.

822
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: I think the game plan I've been critical of Bill

823
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: O'Brien's game plans, man, I think the game plan versus

824
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: Kansas City was solid. Gold. It was absolutely beautiful. They

825
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: just turned it over twice and and couldn't and couldn't

826
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: get out of their own way. They turned it over twice,

827
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: gave up two possessions, and scored sixteen. I mean it's

828
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: it's the Texans with the right plan. Um is gonna

829
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: be held to deal with in the playoffs if they

830
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: figure out how to get four quarters, and that's that's

831
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: against Kansas City or anybody else. Yeah, I'm with you.

832
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: Do you give Tennessee a shot to go up to

833
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: Baltimore and beat the Ravens. I know everybody's got a

834
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: shot in the playoffs, Like, I get that, But do

835
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: you give them a realistic shot to knock off the Ravens? Yeah? Man, Look,

836
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: I think this is a deal. Is that if you're

837
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: gonna beat the Ravens, you're gonna have to outscore the Ravens.

838
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: And that's that's the plan for Houston, that's the plan

839
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: for Kansas City, that's the plan for anybody in the

840
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: NFC that runs up against him. If they make it

841
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, you're gonna have to outscore them. The

842
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: only exception to that opinion of mine is Tennessee. Tennessee

843
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: is a team that I believe. I mean, I don't

844
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: know what's Derrick Henry ran for the last two weeks.

845
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: The last two times he touched the field almost four

846
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: hundred yards. Yeah, in two games. I mean, you're talking

847
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: about a guy a team that can really put a

848
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: plan together. If they can find a way to just

849
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: slow them down for a quarter or two quarters on

850
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football, if they can slow

851
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: them our Jaxon down for a quarter or two and

852
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: take advantage of a couple of opportunities and get that

853
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: thing into the second half, then they've got the potential

854
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: to hit a couple of big plays with a J.

855
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: Brown and Corey Davis and Jonah Smith, those three guys,

856
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: if you combine their forty times, I think they're probably

857
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: they can probably run with any three times in the

858
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: league on any team, and then Derrick Henry can pound

859
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: them and two o'clock Tanny Hee's a guy that can

860
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: hurt you with his feet. I just think they can

861
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: win a different way, whereas everybody else is gonna have

862
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: to outscore them. So yeah, I think it could be.

863
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: It'd be a big upset, but I think it's not

864
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: out of It's not out of the realm of possibility.

865
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: There is Clint Sterner. You can listen to them two

866
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: to six on our flagship Sports Radio six ten. He

867
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: is fantastic and you just heard why Clinton the bestball man.

868
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: Thank you, brother. We'll talk to you hopefully again next week. Yes, sir,

869
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: you gotta brother, be good when we get back. It's

870
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: time to go behind the mics with two men that

871
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: will be calling the game, one for the Texans, one

872
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: from Westwood Radio. It's our good friend Kevin Kogler joining

873
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: the voice of the Texas Mark vannim In next right

874
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: here on Texans All Access. We got one hour down

875
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: in one hour left to go. For this Wednesday edition

876
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Speaker 1: of Texans All Access, it's time for this week's Stats Challenge,

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Speaker 1: going to give you a percentage, and that percentage is

880
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: ninety two point eight six percent. Ninety two point eight

881
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: to six percent. That's a pretty high percentage for anything. Well,

882
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: that was the Shawn Watson's passing percentage completion percentage after

883
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: the Texans had fallen behind sixteen to nothing, So essentially

884
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: after JJ sack and the subsequent Houshka fuel goal at

885
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: sixteen to nothing, the Shawn Watson went thirteen of fourteen,

886
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: completing ninety two point eight to six percent. Now, if

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00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: you want three significant digits ninety two point nine percent,

888
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: if you want two significant digits ninety three percent of

889
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: his passes. Either way, that's really really good for anybody

890
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: at that particular moment in that sort of stressful pressure cooker,

891
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: and DeShawn dominated in the second half. Ninety two point

892
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: nine percent of his past is thirteen and fourteen in

893
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: that second half and overtime. And that is this week's

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895
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Speaker 1: Day to register to take the stats Challenge. Now, a

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Speaker 1: guy that has all kinds of stats and facts and

897
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: figures all his fingertips is a guy that has to

898
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: call the game on Sunday. And there will be two

899
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: gentlemen calling this game. You know Mark Vanimer, the voice

900
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: of the Houston Texans. You also know Westwood Ones Kevin Coogler. Like,

901
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: wait a second, Kevin Coogler, Yeah, he is our play

902
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: by play voice for preseason television. He is gonna be

903
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: calling the game for Westwood one Radio, So both Mark

904
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: and Kevin gonna be in the building calling the game,

905
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: just like preseason. Well, they got together for our Men

906
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: behind the Mike's segment as Mark talked with Kevin Coogler

907
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: coming off that Saints Vikings game and now you're going

908
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: to call another road upset of Texans taking on the

909
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: Chiefs on Westwood One on Sunday. Well, first of all,

910
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: take me to the game you just did. How was

911
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: that for you? That was pretty exciting stuff. It was

912
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: extremely exciting. And so you know, you go into a

913
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: game sometimes and you know this, You go into a

914
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: game with an expectation. It doesn't mean it changes how

915
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: you call the game, but you go into it thinking, Okay,

916
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: this is probably what's going to happen, or this is

917
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: what is most likely to happen, and not too many

918
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: of those scenarios. Did you think, Okay, the Vikings are

919
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: gonna kind of control a game in New Orleans against

920
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: the Saints and end up winning this thing at the

921
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: very end on a final plaint overtime, And that's exactly

922
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: what happened. It was a stunning It was a stunning development.

923
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: I was surprised that it happened. I was surprised at

924
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: how well the Vikings were able to limit what the

925
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: Saints wanted to do offensively. That's a huge win and

926
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: it kind of changes the narrative about Kirk Cousins as

927
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback. In my opinion, he's just gone on the road,

928
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: beating one of the all time great cocks on his

929
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: home field in a year in which he's still playing

930
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: at the top of his game. And Drew Brees. I

931
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: was very impressed with everything I saw from Minnesota in

932
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: that game. What did you think of Breese? There are

933
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people criticizing the performance. Look, it was

934
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: a very close game. And whenever you're his age, which

935
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: isn't very often in this league you have quarterbacks playing

936
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: at that high level that late in their career. But

937
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: when you're someone his age, people are going to pick

938
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: it apart and say, well, maybe this is the beginning

939
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: of the end. What are you seeing? I still think

940
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: he's got a little bit less in the tank. We're

941
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: talking about two guys who are above the age of

942
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: forty that are in the most prominent positions that are

943
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: now both free agents at this moment and Drew Brees

944
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady, And if you were to say which

945
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: one of them do you think has a little bit

946
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: more in the tank, I'm not so sure. I wouldn't

947
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: say Drew Brees at this point. I know he was

948
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: injured this year, and I know he didn't play his

949
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: best game, but over the final four games of the season,

950
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: in fifteen touchdowns and no interceptions going into that playoff game,

951
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: there was no indication at all that Drew Brees will

952
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: an't performing at anything but a high level. I think

953
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: it's just one of those games. He faced the defense

954
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: that was able to take advantage of an offensive line

955
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: that he had in front of him. They put constant

956
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: and consistent pressure on him throughout the day with Griffin

957
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: and the Neil Hunter, and Drew Brees didn't have his

958
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: best game. But I still think there's some playing days

959
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: ahead for Drew Brees, and I think they'll be in

960
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: a Saints uniform. Kevin Coogler joining us on Texans Radio,

961
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: It's a weird time in the NFL. You mentioned Brees

962
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: and Brady free agents, and they both get knocked out

963
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: on wildcard weekend, and here we have Mahomes Lamar Jackson

964
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson playing in the divisional round. Has the changing

965
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: of the guard officially taking place? Now? I mean, can

966
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: we declare it done? What are your thoughts? I think

967
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: it has. Yeah. I think you're looking at the AFC,

968
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: three of the brightest young quarterback stars in the entire

969
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,959
Speaker 1: league that are still playing. You look in the NFC,

970
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: You've got Russell Wilson, who is still a youngish quarterback,

971
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: but he's now old compared to some of these guys

972
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: that's leading the charge over there. I think we are

973
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: now seeing the changing of the guard, and I think

974
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: it ensures that the NFL isn't going to go through

975
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: the wild swings that the NBA has gone through when

976
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: they've gone through their cycles of cycling out one group

977
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: of stars and waiting for the next stars to develop.

978
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: The breeze and Brady longevity with Roethlisberger and others has

979
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: really ensured this bridge has been built before the old

980
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: generation to this new generation of quarterback, and I think

981
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: it ensures that the NFL keeps this consistent level of

982
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: play and this consistent level of fan interest. But you know,

983
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: you look at the NFC and there's a lot of

984
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: traditional franchise names that are still playing over there. But

985
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: the AFC in these playoffs is where the real young

986
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: quarterback power resides. All right, So the Texans taking on

987
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. We all know what happened in Week six,

988
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: and that really is very little to do with what

989
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: might go down on Sunday. But your thoughts as you

990
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: zoom in from thirty thousand feet as to what we

991
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: might see on Sunday when Kansas City and Houston get together, Yeah,

992
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: I mean you're looking at two teams that are in

993
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: different positions right now than they were in Week six.

994
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: Both teams have guys back that they didn't have in

995
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: that game. Juan Thornhill not being there for Kansas City

996
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: in the back end of that defense this time around,

997
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: I think plays a big role, and kind of an

998
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: underrated role, to be honest with that. I think this

999
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: is somebody that's kind of getting glossed over. I thought

1000
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: Thornhill has had a really good season in the back

1001
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: end of that Chiefs defense, and I think that's something

1002
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: that the Texans are going to look to exploit. The

1003
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: run game is obviously something that everybody's going to focus

1004
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: on in this game because how consistently. The Texans were

1005
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: able to succeed on the ground in Week six against

1006
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, but this is a Chiefs defense

1007
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: that is much much better than they were, especially against

1008
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: the run in those first six weeks of the season.

1009
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: That's sort of capped a real rough stretch for the

1010
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: Chiefs as far as stopping the run when Carlos Hiding

1011
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: Company ran all over him in Week six. Not to

1012
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: say that Bill O'Bryan is not going to try to

1013
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: run the football because he has to in this game

1014
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon, But this is a Chiefs defense that

1015
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: has shored its defensive stopping ability as far as run

1016
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: defense up with additions to that defensive line, and they're

1017
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: just satten better and more comfortable in Steve Spagnola's system.

1018
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Coogler joining us from Westwood One calling the game

1019
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday from the national radio audience. And Kevin, You've

1020
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: called a lot of Deshaun Watson football games, including his

1021
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: NFL preseason debut doing the Texans TV call when the

1022
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: Texans were I carol out of that day, and also

1023
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: I think about the Sunday nighter that year when the

1024
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: Texans lost to the Chiefs, but he threw five touchdown passes.

1025
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: What did you make of what you saw from Afar?

1026
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: When Deshaun Watson had the performance in the second half

1027
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: against Buffalo this past weekend, he just you know, it's

1028
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: you feel like, and I don't know if it's the

1029
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: same way with Texans fans, but when you watch somebody

1030
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: and you think, wow, I've seen everything I could possibly see,

1031
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: and then you see Deshaun Watson pull off that escape,

1032
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: crawl around, spin around, get it down field, you go, clearly,

1033
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: I haven't seen everything that Deshaun Watson can do. He's

1034
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: just a remarkable player. And I say that specifically player

1035
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: because if he sees a remarkable quarterback, that's one thing.

1036
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: I think. He's a terrific football player that plays the

1037
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: position of quarterback. He could throw, he can running, do

1038
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: everything you need to do, and he's just I mean,

1039
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: the AFC is such a talent rich position at quarterback

1040
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: in these playoffs, and Deshaun Watson is every bit. In

1041
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: the conversation in my opinion, Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson,

1042
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: I know Mahomes has an MVP trophy, Lamar Jackson likely

1043
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: going to have an MVP Trophy by the end of

1044
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: this season. But Deshaun Watson is every bit is exciting

1045
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: and everybod is fun to watch. And I think Deshaun

1046
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: Watson and what the Texans have give them an excellent

1047
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: chance to go into Kansas City and win this game.

1048
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: We talked about the changing of the guard at quarterback,

1049
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: but the Patriots not being in the divisional round just

1050
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: feels so shocking to everybody. I think, what are your

1051
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: thoughts on that franchise and how things played out for

1052
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: them down the stretch. They usually get better at the

1053
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: end of the year. This time, it looks like they

1054
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: got worse. Yeah, it really does, and that's surprising to me.

1055
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: The loss to Miami was a real eye opener. I

1056
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: was by that. Losing in the playoffs is just shocking.

1057
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: I've always people always ask you, though, when the Patriots

1058
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: are struggling in the regular season, as they inevitably do

1059
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: seemingly at the beginning of the year, and people always say, oh, gosh,

1060
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: this is the end of the road for the Patriots,

1061
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: and I always answered, oh, you know, Tom Brady's still there,

1062
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick still there. Until they're not performing at the

1063
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: level that they performed at for the last decade. I'm

1064
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: gonna always assume they're going to figure it out, and

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00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: this year they didn't. It's very odd and I think

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00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: it puts the Patriots franchise in a real interesting position. Now,

1067
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: you've always been able to stave off the Tom Brady

1068
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: decisions because you've been winning and you're winning Super Bowls.

1069
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: You're not going to make a change. He's performed at

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00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: a high level. The franchise is winning, they're ranking in

1071
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and Super Bowl trophies. Why would you change anything. Well,

1072
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: now they limped to the finish line. They didn't look good.

1073
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: Brady did not look like Brady for most of this year.

1074
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: Now you have some decisions, and I think you're about

1075
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: to see the Patriots go through a period of flux.

1076
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: And Mark, how much were Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft

1077
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: love to have Jimmy Garoppolo waiting right now as their

1078
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: quarterback that they had a couple of years ago, and

1079
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: then felt the need they had to get rid of

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00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: him and continue that success. And look, they were very

1081
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: successful without Jimmy Garoppolo. But there's no real air apparent

1082
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: waiting right now in New England. Then Jimmy Garoppolo's about

1083
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: the quarterback and the the number one seed in the NFC

1084
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: side of the playoffs. It's really interesting stuff. Great drama

1085
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: off the field and on the field. Always in the NFL.

1086
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: Kevin Coogler joining us, So, Kevin, tell me National Championship

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00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 1: College Football. It's been about five hundred days. It feels

1088
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: like since we last saw the semi finals. I just

1089
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't know why they didn't play this week, but

1090
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: they didn't. But your thoughts of what we're going to

1091
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: see Monday when LSU gets together with Clemson. I love

1092
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: this LSU team. The story of Joe Burrow is one

1093
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: of the great stories in college football over the last

1094
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how many years. I mean, you talk

1095
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: about a guy who couldn't get the job one at

1096
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: Ohio State, ends up leaving, goes to another power at LSU,

1097
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: develops into a quarterback that's going to be making itself

1098
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: a ton of money. Is a likely number one, number two,

1099
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: number three pick, depending on who wants to take him

1100
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: as their starting quarterback in the National Football League. They

1101
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: ought the offense that he has surrounded himself with the

1102
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: defense that they have to back him up. I just

1103
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: think this LSU team looks too loaded in too many positions.

1104
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: I love Trevor Lawrence. I think he's a fantastic competitor.

1105
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: But I think Joe Burrow is just having one of

1106
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: those seasons that you just don't see too often in

1107
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: college football. It's a historic year, and I think he

1108
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: caps off this Cinderella run from the bench at Ohio

1109
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: State to the Heisman Trophy. I think he caps it

1110
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: off with one more trophy next Monday at the National Championship. Kevin,

1111
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 1: I know you're in the throes of college basketball right now,

1112
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: but tell me what are your early thoughts on this season.

1113
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: It's not even that early anymore if you talk to

1114
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: the coaches and the players, but to the fans. A

1115
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: lot of fans don't notice it until right now when

1116
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: we get deep into conference play. But what are you

1117
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: thinking here this part of the college basketball season. I know,

1118
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: I know you've done a number of games already. Oh yeah,

1119
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: it's we're right in the middle of all of it

1120
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: right now. Gonzaga is a team that appears to have

1121
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: something at every position, and they have one of the

1122
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: best college basketball coaches in the world, and Mark few

1123
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: Butler is a team that nobody is talking about right now.

1124
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: But they defend at such a high level that even

1125
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: with an offense that is less than stellar, they have

1126
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: been able to defend to almost a perfect record, only

1127
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 1: one point loss to Baylor. They only blemish on Butler's radar.

1128
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: So that's one to keep an eye on as you

1129
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: go into college As people get out of the NFL

1130
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: mode and start to focus on college basketball, watch Butler

1131
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: in the Big East. That's a team that nobody's talking

1132
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: about right now. I think they'll create problems in the

1133
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: Big Ten. Michigan State looks like they've started to hit

1134
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: their stride, and I know this will be a big

1135
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: surprise to casual basketball fan Tom Izzo getting a team

1136
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: better as the season goes along. Every single year it happens.

1137
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: He's sort of like the Bill Belichick college basketball. They

1138
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: may not be great early, but by the end of

1139
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: the year, they're going to be right there in the mix.

1140
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: And I think Michigan State's gonna be right there in

1141
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: the mix at the end of the season. Again, all right, Kevin, Well,

1142
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: have a good call, and we look forward to set

1143
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: on Sunday when the Texans take on the Chiefs. Thanks

1144
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: so much excited to see you guys down in Kansas City.

1145
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: Will see it in. That is one of my favorite

1146
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: guys in this business. Kevin Koger right there, he is

1147
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: absolutely salt of the earth. Great great dude. Does Westwood One,

1148
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: does Big ten Network, college football, Pro football, college basketball,

1149
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: college baseball, college World Series. He does NFL playoff games

1150
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: for us when he's just phenomenal. Kevin Coogler with Mark

1151
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: vandermir two men that you will hear calling the game

1152
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: on Sunday at two o five from Arrowhead Stadium in

1153
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Okay, we get back, let's do a little

1154
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: more likely to happen with Mark VanderMeer. Yes, the Voice

1155
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: the Texans stops by to put me on the spot

1156
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: next on Texans All Access. Welcome back to a Wednesday

1157
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access from the Monday Texans Radio studio.

1158
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: I am John Harris, your host Football Halsons, the reporter,

1159
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: getting ready for this Sunday's matchup with the Kansas City Chiefs.

1160
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: And joining me right now is my partner on Sunday's

1161
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: Mark Vanomy of the Voice of Texas. Mark. How are

1162
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: you doing, Johnny? I'm doing so well. This is the

1163
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: playoff week we've been waiting for, get to the divisional round,

1164
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: get beyond this round. Then next week I'll say, this

1165
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: is the moment we've been waiting for, but for now,

1166
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: this is the one. Well, we're following the lost win

1167
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: win trend. I mean we're a lock this week, a

1168
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: lock a lot according to the trend. No, it's so

1169
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: funny because everyone asks me what I'm thinking about this game,

1170
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, you know, I just witnessed a contest

1171
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: where the Texans were down sixteen nothing and along the

1172
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: way back, Watson had to escape attack where two human

1173
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: a sack where two human beings were ready to crush

1174
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: him like a grape, and he somehow wiggled out of

1175
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: it and they won the game. So don't ask me

1176
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: what my predictions are, because this stuff is clearly, if anything, unpredictable. Yeah,

1177
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: it's very much that. And I know people have asked me,

1178
00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: what do you think of the Chiefs? Do you think?

1179
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, all I know is we played earliest year,

1180
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: we beat them, but apparently they're a different team. We're

1181
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,439
Speaker 1: a different team, So who knows what's gonna happen on Sunday. Yes,

1182
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: as my stockbroker would say past performance does not indicate

1183
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: future results. This this much is true, but more likely

1184
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: to happen produces some great results. Yes, let's do it

1185
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: all right, Johnny, I've got them. More likely to happen

1186
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: is for you right here. More likely to happen. Let's

1187
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: let's have it again. More likely to happen Watson has

1188
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: more rushing touchdowns or the Chiefs have more rushing touchdowns.

1189
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: Rushing touchdowns of the game. Now, Watson could run two

1190
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: in you know last time, yeah see, And the Chiefs

1191
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: they might score via the air. Only who knows how

1192
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: they handle it. Damian Williams, Sean McCoy, those guys. I

1193
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: guess Mahomes is capable of running one in as well.

1194
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: But what do you think here, boy? Kind of fantasy

1195
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: football or prop bet stuff. But this is what we

1196
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: do on More likely, I think gets more likely that

1197
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: the Sean scores more rushing touchdowns. I think two is

1198
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: not outside their own possibility, because anytime the Texans get

1199
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: inside a ten yard line, he's I mean, he's just

1200
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: good an option to carry the football. He's just viable

1201
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: an option to carry the football, as anybody could be

1202
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: part of the Arsenal. Yeah, absolutely so, I do think,

1203
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: and this does worry me a little bit. I do

1204
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: think Damian Williams has become the guy for their running game,

1205
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: and I do think they'll want to get him involved

1206
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: in He had two rushing touchdowns in Week seventeen against

1207
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and in both of them he was The

1208
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: eighty five yard touchdown run was just a joke, a

1209
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: joke meaning no, the Chargers had three guys hit him

1210
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: and seemingly tackle him, and like six guys just stopped

1211
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: playing and he revers had the RV fired up already. Yeah,

1212
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: they just stopped and he spun and took off down

1213
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: the sideline eighty five yards. The other one he did

1214
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: the same kind of thing on a shorter distance. He

1215
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: just plowed through everybody and then Chargers are like, oh, okay,

1216
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: sure you can score, and he did. And then a

1217
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: few minutes, not even a few minutes, a few seconds later,

1218
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: the Chiefs fans found out that the Dolphins had beaten

1219
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and it was a big celebration either way.

1220
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: I do think Damian Williams has become more of a

1221
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: viable running weapon for them, especially down in the red zone.

1222
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: But I just think that DeShawn with Carlos Hide, with

1223
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, they've got three viable options down the red

1224
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: zone that can run the ball in. So I do

1225
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: think that DeShawn will have He will have a touchdown

1226
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: or two rushing the football, and that will be more

1227
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: than the Chiefs get. Even with Damian Williams playing better

1228
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: and doing more things, I still think DeShawn will be

1229
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: above and beyond him and the rest of the Chiefs. Okay,

1230
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: let's get to the next one. More likely to happen.

1231
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: Hopkins over one hundred receiving yards or Travis Kelsey over

1232
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: one hundred receiving yards. Man Hopkins had a really good

1233
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: game last time, but not in the yardage department. I'm

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01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: not gonna say it wasn't a good game or that

1235
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: was a good yardage, because it was significant yardage. It

1236
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: was all very key yardage. It was fifty five yards,

1237
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: and he was doing what he needed to do, pick

1238
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: up first downs, moved the sticks like he did at

1239
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: the end of the game, enabling you to kill the clock.

1240
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: So look, yards are not always yards. Okay, I'd rather

1241
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: have that those fifty five than two hundred and a loss.

1242
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: And they were surgical yards by DeAndre Hopkins. I think

1243
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: to stop Kansas City, you gotta stop Kelsey. And I

1244
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: think that the Texans against the Chiefs Corners, I still

1245
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: don't think the Chiefs Corners are great, and I do

1246
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: think that the Texans will probably try and push the

1247
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: ball down the field a little bit, and that means

1248
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: that Hop's gonna see some more more activity. The flip

1249
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: side is I don't think the Chiefs are gonna allow

1250
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: Hop to get over one hundred yards, so I actually

1251
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: think both of them are under one hundred yards. I

1252
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: think the key to this is if Fuller plays, what

1253
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: does Kenny Stills do? Because Kenny didn't play in that game.

1254
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: And on the flip side of the Chiefs, what is

1255
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: Sammy consue Because Samy Warkins didn't playing that game right

1256
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: six against the Texans, So those two end up being key.

1257
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs will try and take away Hop.

1258
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: I think the Texans will try and take away Kelsey.

1259
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: I think that the Texans have shown that they can

1260
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: slow down Kelsey. He had hopping nine receptions nine so

1261
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: if he gets nine receptions this time, he's definitely getting

1262
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: over one hundred yards. I'm gonna go with hop over

1263
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: a hundred. Okay, sounds good, more likely to happen, more

1264
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: passing yards Ryan Tannehill this weekend or Kirk Cousins this weekend?

1265
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: Who throws for more? And you know Derrick Henry is

1266
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a featured situation here as the Tennessee Titans

1267
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: go to Baltimore. But for the Minnesota Vikings Dalvin Cook,

1268
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: you know they want to run that football when they

1269
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: go on the road in the Bay Area. So which

1270
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: guy's gonna get more passing yards? Tannehill or Cousins and

1271
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: both players having a career. I can't even call it

1272
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: a renaissance. This is a career surge that a lot

1273
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: of people didn't see coming for either guy. Man, you've

1274
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: got really good at this. This is really just a

1275
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: tough one. This is really tough because my when you

1276
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: said Tannehill and Cousins, I'm like, Cousins isn't doing that

1277
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: for a second week in row? And then I'm like,

1278
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: wait a second. Both of them are gonna fall behind,

1279
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: both of them are gonna have to throw the ball. Who, boy,

1280
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: who do I trust? Do I trust the Vikings receivers

1281
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: against the Niner secondary or do I try Man, this

1282
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: is tough because I got in Baltimore, but San Francisco

1283
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: and Baltimore built pretty similarly on defense. So man, I

1284
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: don't know that you're gonna throw it for a ton

1285
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: of yards, but I do think. I do think that

1286
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: Tennessee will will pound the clock more. So. I think

1287
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna get even more Derek Henry, You're gonna get

1288
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: Dion Lewis, even you're gonna any maybe even Ryan Tanniel

1289
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: running the ball. I don't think they'll want Tanniel to

1290
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: throw it a bunch. I think Cousins will tack on

1291
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: some extra yards at the end after what's probably gonna

1292
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: be a blow up. I mean, they're gonna want to

1293
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: run Dalvin Cook two. But I do think with dealing

1294
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: and digs, they're gonna feel like, hey, let's make sure

1295
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: we've got balance against San Francisco. So I'm gonna go

1296
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: with Cousins having more passing yards. Tannehill have more than

1297
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: that last week, which is saying a whole lot. He

1298
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: could have that on one play in eighty yard bomb

1299
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: the AJ Brown right, but or you throw a short

1300
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: pass to a J. Brown and he runs it in right.

1301
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: But I think that Kirk Cousins will end up tacking

1302
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: on some nice playoff fantasy numbers after the game is

1303
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: well out of hand. How well, it's interesting because this

1304
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: is like the Spider Man gift, you know where the

1305
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: same you know with no Well, but with Minnesota and

1306
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: San Francisco the way they play offense a little bit

1307
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: here because they both have the Kubiaki and Mike shanahany

1308
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: and West Coast offense. The flu is here and and

1309
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: they're both trying to do with similar things with bootlegs

1310
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: and let's run the ball and let's do all that.

1311
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: You know, Garoppolo obviously have a lot more faith in

1312
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: like it all likelihood than Kirk Cousins, although Kirk Cousins

1313
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: completely changed the narrative on his career. Yes, with the

1314
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: performance at New Orleans, but what made that work running

1315
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: the football and the defense respecting that runs. Absolutely, Let's

1316
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: see if it works out. Okay, so your pick is

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01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: picking Cousins over Tanning. You're going Cousins this week. We're

1318
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: gonna check next week, all right, next one more likely

1319
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: to happen, more likely to happened. This is a weird one. Okay,

1320
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: can give me fairbarn points or Duke Johnson carries. So

1321
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: let's look at it this way. If the Texans score

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01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: twenty eight points with four touchdowns, that's four points if

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01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: we change it a little bit. Okay, we say Duke

1324
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: Johnson touches. I'll take his touches. I'll take Duke Johnson touches.

1325
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: But he doesn't carry it a whole lot. And I'm

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01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: thinking that in any moment. Not that they don't like

1327
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: Carlos Heidien over a hundred yards last time these two

1328
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: teams got together. You know, they'd love to see that again,

1329
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: and they'll give them every opportunity to get it. But

1330
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling if they're running the ball,

1331
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: Duke's gonna get maybe more of a taste. I don't know.

1332
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: Maybe that's just wishful thinking or projected thinking or whatever.

1333
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: I know they like the way he runs the ball,

1334
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: but they like hide an awful lot. He's the feature

1335
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: back if you had to declare one here. So Kimie

1336
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: had six points last week because he didn't kick any

1337
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: extra points. He had just the two fuel goals, the

1338
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: one that cut it to sixteen eleven. Oh think they

1339
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: went for two twice, right, So he had six points

1340
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: so that that was two fuel goals. Now, if you

1341
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: have a couple of touchdowns and a couple of fuel goals,

1342
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: that's two. That's eight. We'll Duke have more than eight carries.

1343
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: I think that's probably about the number I was thinking.

1344
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that many. Honestly, I think the

1345
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: over if I'm in Vegas right now, if you say

1346
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a job at the Desert End, which

1347
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: doesn't exist anymore, but I've been there, actually, the or

1348
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: the Riva does, the River Air, I don't think the

1349
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: River Air exists. I don't think they shot casino there.

1350
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: When I went to the When I went to the

1351
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: Vegas Bowl with the Chippewas, I did a big trade

1352
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: with the Riviera. Traded out rooms. That was like my

1353
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: greatest tradeo experience ever. Traded out rooms, traded out a

1354
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: rental car, traded out meals, traded out a ton of

1355
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: stuff that was tradio heaven right there back in the

1356
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: day when you could really do that in radio end anyway,

1357
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: So if I was one of those guys, though I digress,

1358
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: I would put the amount the over under on Duke

1359
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: Johnson carries just straight carries at like four and a

1360
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: half because I think I think Hide is going to

1361
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: get a ton. I think Watson will get some because

1362
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, by design or not, and they're gonna throw

1363
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: the ball. You know. But what did Bill O'Brien tell

1364
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: us in the studio earlier this week? Can we say

1365
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: that he would he was? It was on the air, Yeah,

1366
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: it was on the air. Like you know, they don't

1367
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: want to see you know, this is kind of the

1368
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,959
Speaker 1: way they want to do business if they possibly. And look,

1369
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: it's not a revelation. You'd love to have your quarterback

1370
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: only throw at twenty five thirty times. I'd be great

1371
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: because that means you're probably moving the ball on the ground,

1372
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: you've got great balance, you're making some Hey that way,

1373
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: if you're a quarterback and throwing forty forty five times,

1374
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: well what is that saying? Yeah, probably behind or you

1375
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: have no running game whatsoever, and you're just doing short

1376
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: dump offs or whatever you want to call them to

1377
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: move the football through the air. Well to your point.

1378
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: Last time against the Chiefs, Duke had five carries. Carlos

1379
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: Carlos had twenty six. However, this is a different opportunity.

1380
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: I know, I think Dukes carries are seven or eight. Okay.

1381
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, I think that Kaimi gets to

1382
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: at least eight points, at least two touchdowns with extra points,

1383
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: and at least two field goals. Okay, because they're playing

1384
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: better defense right now, the Chiefs are at least but

1385
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, he might have more. I'm just saying I

1386
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: think that's the minimum baseline that's gonna that. That's twenty

1387
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: points right there, So how much more beyond that? I

1388
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: think that I think that Kaimi will have more points

1389
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: than Duke has carries. Look, it's not a weird one.

1390
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: That was a good one, all right, a very good one.

1391
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: Here's a straightforward one. I'm more likely to happen, more

1392
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: likely to happen more sacks the Texans get sacked more,

1393
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: or the Chiefs get sacked more, or the Texans have

1394
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: more sex than the Chiefs. I guess I could have

1395
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: worded it that way. But who's gonna get more sacks?

1396
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: Chris Jones being added to the mix worries me. It

1397
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: worries me and tears clear. I had a question thrown

1398
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,799
Speaker 1: to me, is this the Chris jowl that the Texans

1399
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: let go of a lot of time ago? After a

1400
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,520
Speaker 1: practice squad. It's a different Chris Joons. That's a way

1401
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: because that Chris Johns figured out with the Patriots and

1402
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: didn't have his longer career and yeah, but he he

1403
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 1: ended up having like a well he was there for

1404
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: like two three years. But in that first year he

1405
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: went to the super Bowl with them and was on

1406
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: the field for the Malcolm Butler interception. But that's a

1407
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: different story for a different day. He uh, this, Chris

1408
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: Jones is very, very good. I'm worried more about the

1409
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: pressure that he creates than ultimately the sacks that he gets.

1410
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: But now you're throwing turrill sugs in the mix. Frank

1411
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: Clark is playing much better, and that does worry me

1412
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: that they're gonna get They're gonna get some They're gonna

1413
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: get some sacks. But with what back with Jacob Martin

1414
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: playing well with Whitney pretty much now one on one

1415
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: against guys because teams are concerned about what JJ's bringing

1416
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: in the party. This is all to me. This is

1417
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: almost this even so if it's even I'm going with

1418
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: the good guys, and I'm going with the Texans getting

1419
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: because last time the Texans ended up with one huge sack.

1420
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: That was the manor who sack. They ended up with

1421
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: one sack and two quarterback hits. The Shan was not

1422
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: sacked and there were two quarterback hits. These offensive lines

1423
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: played extremely well last time, and the sack came from

1424
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: Charles A. Manner Who which is a big one because

1425
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: they got the fumble off of that. But there were

1426
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: the Texas did get some pressure on the homes at

1427
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: key times, and that was the key. I don't think

1428
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: either one of these groups gives up a ton of sacks,

1429
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: but I would probably say from a sack perspective, as

1430
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: much as I wanted to be the Texans, I do

1431
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs, with sugs now added to the mix

1432
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: opposite Clark with Chris Jones, I do think the Chiefs

1433
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: will probably get a couple of sacks, and hopefully that's

1434
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: about it. Hopefully the Texans are right there as well.

1435
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: But I just think playing at home getting off on,

1436
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, with the noise and how that impacts the Texans.

1437
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs will end up with a couple

1438
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: of sacks, and I'm gonna give them the slight edge

1439
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: on this one. By the way, tomorrow night we're gonna

1440
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: be at the Texans Team Shop with John McClain. You'll

1441
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: be there, of course. Kevin Walter's gonna join us for

1442
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: a bit nice. Yeah, that'll be cool. And we're gonna

1443
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: have food trucks out there, deep discounts up to forty

1444
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: percent throughout the store. We're giving away tickets to the

1445
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs Texans game. We are giving yeah, we are, and

1446
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: we're also giving away jersey. We're giving away all sorts

1447
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: of stuff tomorrow, So come on buy Texans Team Shop tomorrow.

1448
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: Sports Radio six tens actually gonna be there two to six.

1449
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: Then we'll be there six to eight pm. How about

1450
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna be nice, Mark, appreciate you thumb by, Thanks Johnny.

1451
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: That was really fun and that was hard man, Mark

1452
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: him hoss really really good questions. That's about as hard

1453
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 1: as trying to block Jacob Martin. How about catching up

1454
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: with the edge pass rusher? Next right here in Texans

1455
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: boxis get down at twenty seven if they Houston forty two,

1456
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: no backs, Alan shotgun, here's the snap, here's the rush,

1457
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: Alan scrambling Martin sack them back at the thirty six

1458
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: yard line. My godness, Jack pot Jack Pott from Jacob

1459
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: Martin making a sack right there on fourth down at

1460
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: his first was absolutely phenomenal, coming off the edge and

1461
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: chasing Josh Allen. Oh my goodness, Jacob Martin can fly.

1462
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 1: He can fly. Hopefully he will be back for the

1463
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,759
Speaker 1: game on Sunday. So he did miss today's practice with illness,

1464
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: but when he wasn't sick, deep you sit here had

1465
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: a chance to catch up with him, and what a

1466
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: great interview it was. And I just learned that you

1467
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: wanted to do broadcast journalism, so I feel like this

1468
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 1: is a great foray for you. Oh it's great. It's

1469
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: a great, great intro. You know, it's a great way

1470
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: to get my feet wet and back in the swing

1471
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: of things. I like it. Do you miss being in

1472
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: front of the camera. Well, technically I'm still in in

1473
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: front of the camera. Well yes, that's true, but you're

1474
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 1: not interviewing anyone. You're the one getting interviewed usually after

1475
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 1: games and stuff. I think it's good. It's a good practice.

1476
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 1: You know, this gives me gets me ready to be

1477
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 1: a little bit more comfortable in front of the camera.

1478
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you're doing all right. Let me

1479
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 1: just say that when you did your first press conference

1480
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: in the locker room run media, you had talked about

1481
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: coming back to Houston, and everyone just sort of stopped

1482
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: because I don't think a lot of us knew that

1483
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: you were from Houston. Obviously, now we know that you

1484
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 1: grew up in Katie, but in your Violet listed that

1485
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: you went to high school in Colorado. Give me a

1486
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: little bit of background. So I lived in Houston from birth,

1487
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: so I don't know, maybe like kindergarten, first grade, Okay,

1488
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: so you were pretty young. Yeah, So like I like

1489
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: I never really got to live in Houston, you know,

1490
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: or I never got really got to like experience Houston,

1491
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: like where you're like in your teen or like early

1492
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: teen years, where you're going to explore the city and

1493
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 1: things like that. You know. Um, obviously we come. We

1494
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 1: came back and forth and visited quite often, quite frequently. Um,

1495
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 1: we ended up moving call. I lived out there for

1496
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: ten thirteen years. But you I've seen you with the

1497
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: cowboy hat before the game, So I feel like you

1498
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 1: just embraced being a Texan very quickly when you came back.

1499
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: It was there was nothing new to me. You know.

1500
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: That's that's something that Yeah, back home in Texas, you

1501
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 1: know when I was looking at your brio. You grew

1502
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: up in Aurora, Colorado. A lot of people know that

1503
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: as the place where a few several years back there

1504
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: was that mass shooting at the movie theater. And I

1505
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,839
Speaker 1: heard this story that just literally gave me goose bumps.

1506
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: You were supposed to be at that showing up The

1507
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: Dark Night that night? Crazy crazy, Yeah, how did you not? Okay,

1508
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: tell me give us the background, because I want to

1509
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: hear you tell this story. Okay, So I'll give the

1510
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: version of it. I'll give the most accurate rundown I

1511
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: would say, so like it was, I'm in high school,

1512
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: and say maybe sophomore high school, sophomore just twenty twelve, right, Yeah,

1513
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: so sophomore year high school this summertime, and we're trying

1514
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: to go see the new premiere of The Dark Night.

1515
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: You know, normal high schools. Most high school kids were right,

1516
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: you know, A lot a lot of the people there

1517
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: were um either teammates or students that we knew from

1518
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: the other high schools in the area and stuff like that.

1519
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 1: But uh, we called multiple like multiple um theaters, me

1520
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: and me and a group of seven friends, you know,

1521
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: and we decided to go with the cheaper option, which

1522
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: was Century sixteen, um, you know, is the Neighborhood theater.

1523
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: They still had the student tickets, you know, so we're like, cool, bet,

1524
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: we don't have to pay full pricemore ticket. We can

1525
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: just get our normal seven seven dollars pre decent ticket

1526
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: and keep it pushing, you know. So I called ahead

1527
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: and try to re seven tickets. You know, they didn't

1528
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: have seven that we had four, So we ended up

1529
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: We're just like, well, I don't know, four of us

1530
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: aren't just gonna go and leave everyone else. So we

1531
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: decided to go. There's a golf course right around the

1532
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: corner from my house, so we just hung out on

1533
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 1: the golf course. You know, this is like keep mind.

1534
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: It's also like midnight because it's a midnight promo. It

1535
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: was the Midnight Show. Yeah, so like we're like com

1536
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: a golf course. It was open, okay, resourceful, Yeah, yeah,

1537
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: you can say you could say that. You could say

1538
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: it was open. Yeah. Did anyone think that you would

1539
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: actually gone to see the movie? Yeah? My parents. My

1540
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: parents did because they didn't realize, like they didn't know

1541
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: that you had changed plan, that we had changed plans,

1542
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm just thinking like whatever, like we

1543
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: didn't go, I'll just show back up a normal curfee time,

1544
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like not that big of

1545
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:47,520
Speaker 1: a deal. My phone, like my phone dies, and um,

1546
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,919
Speaker 1: all we can hear is like police sirens, like zooming

1547
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: down Smoke Hill Road or rapa, it's spoke Hill Rapper Road,

1548
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: one of the two major roads. Um, just zooming down.

1549
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: We're trying to figure out what's going on right now?

1550
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: What's going on? So now I just go home. I'm

1551
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: two minutes away from the golf course. I go home.

1552
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: My parents are like freaking out trying to figure out,

1553
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: Like they're trying to call me. My phone's dead and

1554
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm like, what are you guys talking about? Oh,

1555
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: we're at the golf course, Like we never ended up

1556
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 1: going to the movie theater. And they told what happened.

1557
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, like that's that is crazy.

1558
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean I heard that story and I thought that

1559
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: must have shaken you up. Yeah it was. It was crazy,

1560
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 1: like you knew, you know, we knew a crap ton

1561
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: of people were at the theater that night. Yeah, that

1562
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 1: is that is really scared. I really wanted to hear

1563
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: that from you. Because I'm sure that's shaped you as

1564
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: a person as you've gone on through your life. All Right,

1565
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: So here you come back in Houston, You're reunited with

1566
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: your Texas roots. When you get the call, tell me

1567
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: what's going on. It's just the end of preseason. You're

1568
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: with Seattle, you're heading into your second year, You've had

1569
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: a pretty good off season. You think things are going well,

1570
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: and you find out you're getting traded. So when I

1571
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: got the call, I was actually I actually wasn't in Seattle.

1572
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: I was in Philadelphia visiting my girlfriend and we um,

1573
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: she like just picked me up from the airport and

1574
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: we're headed to her parents' house and my phone was dead.

1575
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: So like, the phone is dead, and a lot of

1576
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 1: these very important lives. Yeah, I know, I know, I'm bad.

1577
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm bad at charging my phone, all right, clearly, Okay, Okay,

1578
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 1: that's beside the point, right, So I pluged my phone

1579
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 1: in like when I get in the car, and I like,

1580
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're just having a normal conversation. And we

1581
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 1: get to her parents house and I get a phone

1582
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: call around like nine o'clock and they sent the trade

1583
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: went through, And I had no idea that I was

1584
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 1: you didn't know that this was a scenario. No, but

1585
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: like I had a weird feeling about it, you know, Okay,

1586
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: like I knew like it was just another opportunity. So

1587
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: I was excited. I was excited obviously to come back

1588
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 1: to Houston, you know, and I played with play with

1589
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: some some great players. You know. Obviously Seattle was missed

1590
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: and we'll be missed. But you know, I'm here in

1591
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 1: a great city with a great opportunity. You had to

1592
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: me you had to turn around and get your stuff

1593
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: here really quickly, because I remember you showed up and

1594
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 1: there were still boxes from Seattle that were arriving. Yeah,

1595
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: I'll free you the next few days. Was there a

1596
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: lot of pressure being that it was part of a

1597
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: trade with Jevan Clowney, a former number on an overall

1598
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 1: pick how out for yourself? Did you put pressure on

1599
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: yourself to fit into this new defense early on? No,

1600
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I put pressure on myself to or

1601
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: compare myself to anyone, you know. I think it's important

1602
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 1: to understand what you bring to the table, not to

1603
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: compare yourself to anyone else. You know, try to keep

1604
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 1: yourself as organic as possible, you know, Obviously they saw

1605
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,600
Speaker 1: something and it was very flattering, you know, to know

1606
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: that that you were being that you were your name

1607
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: was involved in a trade with like they wanted you

1608
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: to go here, right, you know? So and you actually

1609
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: have more sacks on the season. I mean, I don't

1610
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: know if anyone knows that you're three and a half

1611
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: he's three, Not that it matters, but I just thought

1612
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: i'd put that out there for you. Your first Monday

1613
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: Night football Drew Brees and the Saints. Your brother plays

1614
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 1: for the Saints. Coincidentally, he wasn't playing that night though,

1615
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: But how surreal was that you had a quarterback hit

1616
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: on Drew Bridge, had a great first game and your

1617
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: debut as a Texan. What did your brother have to

1618
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,759
Speaker 1: say about you after the game? Um My, bro was excited.

1619
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 1: You know, this is something that like he he has

1620
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 1: been looking for or two for so long because there's

1621
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: such a big age gap. I'm always saying, like a

1622
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: huge age gap, but like there's a significant age gap

1623
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: to where we have never played organized sports together. Really yeah,

1624
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: so like at any point in time, you know, I

1625
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 1: was always like if he was playing football, I was

1626
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: always like the waterboy or like the ball boy, you know,

1627
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: so quite a few years ye younger. Yeah, okay, so

1628
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,560
Speaker 1: there's about maybe five five six year difference. It was

1629
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 1: awesome for him, you know, and I was I was

1630
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 1: super excited because I've never shared a field with him.

1631
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: You know. Even though he was he was hurt during

1632
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 1: the game, you know, it was still meant a lot.

1633
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: You know that we are on the same level, you know,

1634
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 1: so it's a blessing. Fast forward a few weeks later.

1635
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: Now it's Sunday Night football, Texans are playing the Patriots.

1636
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 1: One and a half sacks, three quarterback hits, one TfL.

1637
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: You set single game career highs and that game against Patriots.

1638
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 1: First of all, I think you must really enjoy playing

1639
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: on prime time. But what is it about this defense

1640
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: that's allowed you to just play the way you've been

1641
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: playing this season? You know, I would just I would

1642
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: just say they gave an opportunity. You know, I don't

1643
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: think anything has changed necessarily for my game, but obviously

1644
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: it continues to elevate, you know. But I was kind

1645
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: of really just picking off from where I left off

1646
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 1: last year, you know, and trying to keep things going

1647
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: and continue to work, continue to learn from the guys

1648
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: we have in the locker room, you know, and just

1649
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 1: staying for the opportunity to have, you know, to be

1650
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 1: able to play this game and to play here in Houston,

1651
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, and whatever the team has men do. Bill

1652
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: O'Brien when he talks about you, he said the other

1653
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: day that you run about one hundred miles per hour.

1654
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: That you're someone to watch and practice because you're just

1655
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: full go all the time. I'm paraphrasing, but basically he

1656
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: did say a hundred miles per hour for you. Where

1657
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: do you get your work ethic from? And is there

1658
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: a chip on your shoulder from the situation that you're

1659
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,560
Speaker 1: in or has that really just always been your mindset? No,

1660
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: that's always been my I my how we were raised,

1661
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's like our family like mantra almost like

1662
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: nothing beats a failure but to try, you know, nothing

1663
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: beats a failure but to try to try. Yeah, you

1664
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So if you fail, the only

1665
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: thing you can do is give try try again, you

1666
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So keeping that in mind, you know,

1667
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: and I'm a big believer in how you anything. It's

1668
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: how you do everything, you know what I mean. So

1669
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: like it may, it may be it may seem like

1670
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm going one hundred miles an hour you know, all

1671
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 1: the time, which which might be the case, you know,

1672
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: but it's it's very controlled, it's very it's very detail oriented.

1673
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: You know. UM, make sure my footworkers right or hand

1674
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 1: placement it's right, and things like that. UM, just focus

1675
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 1: on a little the little aspects of my game because

1676
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: those things that you can teach your bide to consistently do,

1677
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, just become second agor to you. So you

1678
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 1: mentioned control. I know that you are a big fan

1679
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: of the martial arts and you studied quite a few

1680
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: of them in high school and be, I don't know

1681
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: if you still do. But how much does that sort

1682
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: of factor into your game and how you approach it?

1683
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 1: I would say, says right, yeah, So so I've picked

1684
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: I've picked the jiu jitsu. UM just recently, like in

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01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 1: the past two years, okay, UM for my brother. My

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01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: brother actually started doing jiu jitsu his rookie year with

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01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:55,799
Speaker 1: Tom Botley and the Gracie family. UM, basically the inventors

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01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: of Brazilian jiu jitsu. So how does that help football?

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01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 1: Because I know a number of PA Brian because and

1690
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: was a big fan of it as well. I would

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01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: say it's it's it's it provides a lot of different

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01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: aspects you know that a lot of people don't think about,

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01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: you know when it comes to football. Um, it's a

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01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: it's about control, you know, and you don't always have

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01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,759
Speaker 1: to feel the knee that you're that you're like in control.

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01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: That makes sense. It makes you comfortable being uncomfortable because

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01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: like when you're rolling around during jiu jitsu, you know,

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01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: you may find yourself in very uncomfortable positions, you know,

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01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: and it may seem that you're like it may seem

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01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 1: that you're not in control, but the whole, the whole,

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01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: Like how I think of it is like when you're

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01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: not in control, are you really like if you think yourself,

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01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: are you really not in control? But you're you're at

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01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,759
Speaker 1: piece with it. It's like it's like an organized chaos almoe,

1705
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: right exactly, Like we know this is not what we

1706
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: have any control over, but it's okay, it's all right, yes,

1707
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of give and take, you know,

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01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: so that aspect of football, you know, and obviously handkmbattives

1709
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to pass rushing and things

1710
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: like that, and understanding how the body works, and um,

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01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 1: there's different ways of trap and different parts of the body.

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01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: So you were you were a defensive end coming out

1713
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: of college into the draft. So when did you make

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01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: the switch from defensive and outside linebacker. I wouldn't say

1715
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: I've always done the same thing. Is it kind of

1716
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: like you just interchangeably both. I just think, like the

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01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 1: difference between defense, defensive end and outside linebacker is I don't.

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01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't play a four eye, you know, like it's

1719
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: minimal and Romeo Coronel's especially, but I don't know. Sometimes

1720
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: they list guys particularly as a d or as an OLB.

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01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: Actually Clowney was the opposite. Yeah, you know, so like

1722
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 1: I've I was like for me, it doesn't like the burbage,

1723
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 1: doesn't I've done the same thing my whole career because

1724
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 1: you hadn't you had to gain a lot of But

1725
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 1: did you not have to gain a lot of weight?

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01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: I'd read somewhere that Pete Carroll wanted you to gain Well,

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01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: I've always like I've always have played at or around

1728
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, in between two thirty eight and two forty three,

1729
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 1: you know, around there and college. I was a little

1730
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: bit heavier. I think at them my heaviest in college.

1731
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 1: I wass two sixty seven. Oh wow, you know, my

1732
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: senior year. So it just I wouldn't say necessarily made

1733
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: me gain weight, but maybe maintain weight, you know. Um,

1734
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: And last year was was a learning proper, was a

1735
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 1: learning experience. You know, every day you know, because we

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01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: were rookie for one right, every day was literally a

1737
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: new day, a new day, you know. There I only

1738
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: had I had no prior experience to what a week

1739
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 1: fourteen or a week eight felt like. Or because you're

1740
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: not usually playing this time of year. Right now you're done,

1741
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So like you're not you're

1742
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 1: not playing, You're you're trying to learn how to take

1743
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: care of your body and how to be professional. You know,

1744
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: this is the first time you really like an adult

1745
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: adult Like college was nice. You're living on your own

1746
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: things like that, but like you weren't necessarily paying bills

1747
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: because you're on a scholarship. So it was a learning

1748
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: experience last year, which I don't want to which is awesome,

1749
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 1: all right. I see you with the linebackers. You guys

1750
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: get along really well, Like I would never guess that

1751
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: you just got here before the start of the season,

1752
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: the Rock Boys. You're part of them. I know, you're

1753
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: not the part that dresses up. That's the inside line,

1754
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:02,440
Speaker 1: the outside linebackers. Keep it. You guys are pretty individualistic

1755
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: on game days, right, How have you liked that group

1756
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: of guys that you're playing with, because you all seem

1757
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: different in your experiences and what you're into, but yet

1758
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: you all get along. You'll seem to have a real

1759
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 1: fun sense of humor and fun energy about you. I'd

1760
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: say the energy is right with that group of guys,

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01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 1: you know. Energy. Um, so everyone kind of just like

1762
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: meshes jealous together. Me and Mingo obviously know each other, um,

1763
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 1: you know, but I've always watched Whitney Merdless from Afar,

1764
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: you know, and uh and Scar you know, that's a

1765
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: great dude. You know, that's a that's a great We

1766
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: like them, We like we like all them to. Are

1767
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: you also in gymnastics in high school? I did gymnastics,

1768
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: Like growing up, growing up, what was your what was

1769
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: your event? I was like it was more like the

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01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,759
Speaker 1: first sport I played. Okay, before I did like before

1771
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: like I did martial arts. It was like it was

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01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 1: kind of just like, oh yeah, let's go play on

1773
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 1: the rings, Jake imagining the Olympics where you're seeing the

1774
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: rings or you're doing the vault. I don't think I

1775
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 1: never got that far. It was more like a like

1776
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: a year. Like I'm six years old and I have

1777
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 1: too much energy. My mom put me in. There's little

1778
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 1: doubt that dude has got a lot, a lot of energy.

1779
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: A big thanks to everybody who participated on the show,

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01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 1: obviously dep and Jacob right there, Taiwan Jones, Mark Vandamir,

1781
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Coogler, all of you for listening to my guys

1782
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: back at fortnight of six tenth. Thank you so much.

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01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,759
Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow and as always, go Texas.