Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you my oh, look over there.
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes, goodness, dings culture. He's just
Speaker 1: calling Bowen. A lot to discuss up top, Yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot to discuss. I mean, there's really a thick, thick, thick,
Speaker 1: gelatinous air that we have to cut through. With all
Speaker 1: that's going on, let me say like loud and clear,
Speaker 1: because I know from your experience on a plane. Yes,
Speaker 1: Bone was on a plane. I was. I was on
Speaker 1: a plane yesterday. He's in Denver currently, I am. I'm
Speaker 1: quarantining in my parents basement. What did I said? You see?
Speaker 1: What did you what did you see with your saw?
Speaker 1: A lot of well, first of all, let's let's set
Speaker 1: the baseline. A lot of masks. Everyone had to wear
Speaker 1: a mask, of course to get on the plane. But
Speaker 1: a lot of people on the plane taking the masks off,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the flight attendants. And I don't there, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to drag because they're in a tough
Speaker 1: spot because a lot of the flight attendants not saying
Speaker 1: anything to the people who are taking their masks off,
Speaker 1: because well, first of all, I should say that the masks,
Speaker 1: the people were taking the masks off are exclusively like
Speaker 1: hetero white, middle aged boomer couples and mask performance in
Speaker 1: a different sense of course, hedgemonic performed performance. A lot
Speaker 1: of the masks hanging off the chin. This is what
Speaker 1: we call not wearing a mask. This is called mask
Speaker 1: performance m SK performance. And that ain't a mask. That's
Speaker 1: a damn hammock, honey, And that's actually real culture number
Speaker 1: fours honey. If it's not on your mouth, it's not counting.
Speaker 1: It better covered the nostrils too. That I was gonna
Speaker 1: say thank you for for for covering the nostrils. So um,
Speaker 1: it was this. It was just a lot of Karen
Speaker 1: and chat energy coming from these people who didn't have
Speaker 1: their masks on. And it's like, I don't want these
Speaker 1: flight attendants, these flight attendants who are working, we're putting
Speaker 1: themselves in you know, in danger by working. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't want them to I don't think the onus is
Speaker 1: on them to rate these people and then to risk
Speaker 1: like a big outburst. Well, the cases be rising and
Speaker 1: we should. We also need to say this is what
Speaker 1: I've I've meditated on this and this is what I've
Speaker 1: come to. The Only individual who should not be wearing
Speaker 1: a mask is fam Milan. She is the only one
Speaker 1: who has proven with time that it is not good
Speaker 1: for her to wear our guests, because now she sees
Speaker 1: when she wears the mask, and these are Christina Aguilera's lyrics,
Speaker 1: not now she sees. If she wears a mask, she
Speaker 1: might foold the world, but she may not fool her heart.
Speaker 1: Mind you, Molin story takes place hundreds of years ago,
Speaker 1: and if she were to be walking around this culture,
Speaker 1: this particular, would not we have to wear the mask.
Speaker 1: I would say, allow her to unmask. But the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is when she's not around currently. In fact,
Speaker 1: she was famously post poem this year. Yes, she was, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see, if we'll see, if we ever
Speaker 1: see it, I want. I was so excited to see
Speaker 1: in theaters. I thought that the trailer looked at peak,
Speaker 1: looked very good, looks very good. I loved watching my
Speaker 1: queen with a blowout in the middle of a battle.
Speaker 1: Your queen, she can be both of our queen's bowing.
Speaker 1: But I've never seen you lay claim to Mulan. This
Speaker 1: is the first time I've ever seen you. I'm not
Speaker 1: laying claim to Mulan. Let's actually just get that straight.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying she this summer which she was supposed
Speaker 1: to be all of our queens. Yes, well, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of colonizing happening on the pod right now. Just fine,
Speaker 1: can I can? I? Can I redirect towards something that's more.
Speaker 1: I do want to speak on something. Yes, please, you
Speaker 1: might have noticed that I have this very tall glass
Speaker 1: of red wine. You're topped up. This is a salute
Speaker 1: because someone else in this world enjoys a big glass
Speaker 1: of red wine. And that's someone is Kelly Clarkson. Yes, now,
Speaker 1: a lot of people reaching out to me to get
Speaker 1: my sort of um reaction to the news that Kelly
Speaker 1: is divorcing. And here's the thing, everyone, this is a
Speaker 1: real person to me, This is my real hero. And
Speaker 1: so all I have to say is I love Kelly.
Speaker 1: I know this is probably not easy for her, and
Speaker 1: I hope everyone has compassion because honestly, that's something we
Speaker 1: have to unpack. Two is like the celebrity divorce of
Speaker 1: it all. It's taken me to this thirtieth year of
Speaker 1: my life when it's my queen that I stand and
Speaker 1: I say, everyone, stand down, stand down. This is not
Speaker 1: a time for your your presumptions. This is not a
Speaker 1: time for anyone's commentary. Let the woman grieve. I would
Speaker 1: say that a lot of the conversation that I've sort
Speaker 1: of seen around Kelly UM is that it has been compassionate.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like just hoping for the best. She is the best.
Speaker 1: It must be hard, it must be hard on on
Speaker 1: the little blackstones, the little children. Yeah, black stones, black stock,
Speaker 1: black stocks. I'm so sorry. It's actual culture number number
Speaker 1: fifty black stock stock, not black stock black stone. She
Speaker 1: will have her name legally restored to Kelly Clarkson. I
Speaker 1: feel very sad about this because famously she signed piece
Speaker 1: by piece and had a difficult childhood of divorce. And
Speaker 1: this is a tough one everyone, so please be compassionate
Speaker 1: towards Kelly. I'm drinking a big glass of red wine
Speaker 1: in her honor, and um, we love Kelly, and I
Speaker 1: just everyone was sort of tagging me, being like, how
Speaker 1: is Matt Rogers dealing? Not well? Didn't need this on
Speaker 1: top of everything else. Of course, we could call it,
Speaker 1: we could call it a traumatizing several months. Absolutely, I
Speaker 1: want to quickly um point out before we move on
Speaker 1: um and introduce our guests were so excited that they're here.
Speaker 1: We're so here. It's an epic day for a lot
Speaker 1: of reasons. The first of all, we should say we're
Speaker 1: recording this June. This is the day that the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court ruled six to three that Title seven in the
Speaker 1: Civil Rights Act of nine protects l G B, t
Speaker 1: Q I E plus employees. Shocking to see good news, shocking.
Speaker 1: My body almost didn't know how to internalize something good.
Speaker 1: I was like, what, this doesn't make sense totally. When
Speaker 1: was the last time you felt pure, like I would say,
Speaker 1: rain on me. Now it's been pretty recent. Rain on
Speaker 1: me was a moment of elation. And also I should
Speaker 1: say we also have not talked about CHROMATICA. We have
Speaker 1: not talked about chromatical on this podcast. And actually it's
Speaker 1: a great guest to have. It's a great guest to have.
Speaker 1: We have a truly holistic guest who is perfect for
Speaker 1: um these times. I would say, I can't think of
Speaker 1: a better guest to have on in this moment. And
Speaker 1: I've been very inspired all my let's call it a
Speaker 1: young adult life by this guest. But in these moments,
Speaker 1: this is a true beacon of light in the dark
Speaker 1: that we have that we're lucky to have on the pod.
Speaker 1: And actually, well let's just say, let's go go through
Speaker 1: the credits. Okay, I'll go through the credits. Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, yeah, we're gonna butter you up, guests. I
Speaker 1: think it's important this this this is a little tonal shift,
Speaker 1: but I think it's important that we UM just say
Speaker 1: their names twins Allow, Richard Brooks, Robert Fuller, Malcolm harsh Um.
Speaker 1: Not not at all comprehensive, UM within the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, these deaths, but UM, they continue, they continue,
Speaker 1: and UM there is justice to be sought in every
Speaker 1: corner of this country. And that's why we keep fighting
Speaker 1: this UM. And we have a true, true, true fighter
Speaker 1: in this fight, I think um an ally in every since,
Speaker 1: someone who is putting themselves in the line of fire
Speaker 1: and in so many ways, and who has had some very,
Speaker 1: very very what I would say, our traumatic experiences with
Speaker 1: just the political infrastructure of New York City of this country.
Speaker 1: But thankfully they are running for office in New York
Speaker 1: City and we're so happy to support them in their campaign. Okay,
Speaker 1: so the credits are. They are currently sitting on Community
Speaker 1: Board nine in New York City, in Manhattan. They were
Speaker 1: appointed by the Speaker of the City Council to um
Speaker 1: be an advisor on the New York City Nightlife Advisory
Speaker 1: Board and they are currently running for Council District seven
Speaker 1: in New York City serving Upper Manhattan. They are a
Speaker 1: drag artist and activist, a true a nightlife fixture. I
Speaker 1: would say in I would say one of the most
Speaker 1: recognizable figures in nightlife. And this goes back to when
Speaker 1: I remember being I remember I saw this this queen.
Speaker 1: I saw dual performance of It's all coming back to
Speaker 1: me now. It started in the venue, it went out
Speaker 1: onto the street. It never stopped being a perfect lip sync.
Speaker 1: It was perfore a month. It was drag performance. This
Speaker 1: is a explosive performer on top of everything else. And
Speaker 1: like you said, if we have anything to say about it,
Speaker 1: future City Council member, absolutely, And that election is coming
Speaker 1: up and I think we're going to hear a lot
Speaker 1: more about that one. It's gonna have to listen to
Speaker 1: that one. I'm gonna have to listen to and support
Speaker 1: that one absolutely. So everyone, please welcome to your ears.
Speaker 1: Mark with the with the full beat face. You should say, no, well,
Speaker 1: I took my lashes off and my wig off because
Speaker 1: you said you weren't filming, so that first of all,
Speaker 1: I feel like I got to know you as a
Speaker 1: short haired queen. Yeah. My my husband likes to say
Speaker 1: that it's because of him that I wear wigs now,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, funk off, what does that mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like, I helped your dragon. He needs to
Speaker 1: absolutely step back, he needs to take several seats. Oh.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's I'm an artist. I evolved up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you have to reinvent yourself. Um, I okay. Do
Speaker 1: you know how hard it was to not laugh with
Speaker 1: you talking about Mulan and Sweet Kelly Clarkson? Were you
Speaker 1: looking forward to Mulan? I don't know how old I
Speaker 1: was when the cartoon came up. With my aunt and
Speaker 1: her friend and the friend's son and I went to
Speaker 1: see Mulan in the theaters and I uh was captivated
Speaker 1: and mesmeer because you know the voice of LEAs A
Speaker 1: Longa is the voice um. And I I threw a
Speaker 1: fit when my mom came to pick me up from
Speaker 1: my antiks because I was like, no, we need to
Speaker 1: go see Mulan again right now. And I was like no,
Speaker 1: we gotta go, and I was like, no, I know
Speaker 1: there's another showing. I saw it on the board when
Speaker 1: we leave it, we have to go. The same day
Speaker 1: I needed to see it again. I was so upset
Speaker 1: demands viewing. Yes, I was so obsessed. And when she
Speaker 1: was like, okay, also, what's his name? Who's Donnie Alsman play?
Speaker 1: Which is yeah, first of all, that's bullshit that Donnie
Speaker 1: Alsmand played this character. But Donnie was okay, wait that
Speaker 1: was I didn't know that was Beaty. We love Beati Wong,
Speaker 1: we stand Wong, we love Beatti Wong. But also Beati
Speaker 1: Wong is a good singer, so why did he not sing?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yes, I was gonna bring that in.
Speaker 1: I have not asked beat himself. Actually, this would be
Speaker 1: a great opportunity. I will should I call, Yes, we
Speaker 1: got to have him on soon, Like this is the
Speaker 1: was with the people who I have his number, but
Speaker 1: he's not somebody. I feel like if I called him
Speaker 1: and be like I can text him right now, be
Speaker 1: like if Marty Cool Cummings calls you, you pick up
Speaker 1: you pick up the damn phone. I have to hit
Speaker 1: A Beady is a national treasure. And also they have
Speaker 1: a little crush on so do I and and in
Speaker 1: in person it's actually a little overwhelming because he was
Speaker 1: years ago and did it a YouTube interview. I had
Speaker 1: this like weird YouTube show and I was like twenty
Speaker 1: and I uh and he like was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: come to my house and I was like sure. But
Speaker 1: then I did one of those like oh, let me
Speaker 1: use your bathroom so I could like find the Tony
Speaker 1: didn't don't don't know where it is. I couldn't find it. Um,
Speaker 1: but he's so nice. He's so nice. He's a sweetheart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he uses this platform for such good He's always
Speaker 1: getting back to the community. Love him. But the point
Speaker 1: of this was I had such a rush also on
Speaker 1: what was the character's name. Yes, Lee Shank could get
Speaker 1: it twice. You could see you couldn't see his nipples
Speaker 1: break my arm right off. I always I always want
Speaker 1: well the way I always like sort of say where
Speaker 1: I am on the scale of how attractive I am
Speaker 1: is how much I wanted to physically hurt me. And
Speaker 1: I feeled that Lee Shank could break my arm right
Speaker 1: if that's your apparently that's actually my scene and I
Speaker 1: didn't know it but he was. When he said let's
Speaker 1: get down to business. I was, I mean, how I
Speaker 1: don't know how young I was, but I was hold up,
Speaker 1: hold up. Oh he was so hot and I like love.
Speaker 1: Lanche's beautiful, one of women in the world, one of them,
Speaker 1: and absolutely I mean, and a beautiful man. Talk about
Speaker 1: drag performance, honey, one of the very first boots. Yeah. Wait, Marty,
Speaker 1: you just came from Stonewall. So there was an event there.
Speaker 1: There's a rally there um to celebrate this ruling. How
Speaker 1: was it? Yeah, well, my friend Sammy, I'll of arras
Speaker 1: who I love. Sammy's running for district leader in Brooklyn
Speaker 1: and stay committee. Uh, Sammy's one friend of mine and
Speaker 1: uh he texted me today and he goes, oh, we
Speaker 1: have to do something, Let's do it, And I said sure.
Speaker 1: So we we we we We called UM Jason Rosenberg,
Speaker 1: who is part of an act up, and we called
Speaker 1: our friend Whitet Harms who worked at BuzzFeed, And then
Speaker 1: we called UM Peppermint and and UM Tanya Walker who
Speaker 1: was part of Equality New York and and we called
Speaker 1: uh ts Candy who who who is advocating for the
Speaker 1: criminalization of sex work, and and we had this beautiful
Speaker 1: showing of the community. Uh, we have people from games
Speaker 1: against guns. It was amazing. It was amazing, and you know,
Speaker 1: we were celebrating this incredible historic moment, but also we
Speaker 1: were like, okay, so we did this, this is great,
Speaker 1: but there's so much happening in the country right now,
Speaker 1: you know, Like this, for those of you who don't know,
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court ruled six to three, which is first
Speaker 1: of all, big deal because a lot of times in
Speaker 1: these civil rights cases it will be a much closer vote.
Speaker 1: So to have six to three is really fantastic. So
Speaker 1: if you're l G B t Q I A plus,
Speaker 1: you cannot be fired from your job anymore. That is
Speaker 1: now federally illegal work bitch. I want to go up
Speaker 1: into the gig and be like, I'm a faggot and
Speaker 1: you can't have fired me a little bitch, ye, So
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to say that on the microphone,
Speaker 1: and running for office, I was like, well, I don't
Speaker 1: think NBC will air that the news crew, but the
Speaker 1: the intention of my speech was I'm a faggot a
Speaker 1: little bit, and that was I'm sure that was felt
Speaker 1: by everyone that was there. Um, Okay, I was like,
Speaker 1: can I say that. I don't care. I can say that. No,
Speaker 1: you can say that on you know, we get in
Speaker 1: trouble for saying faggot. And I'm like, then, don't listen,
Speaker 1: we're gonna say faggot. Actually, that's one of the things
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the cornerstone of this. My mom said,
Speaker 1: she goes, she says, don't say that word. And I said, oh, no, Maggie,
Speaker 1: I can say that. You can't say that. Uh not
Speaker 1: to bring it down. But there is a lot still
Speaker 1: happening in this country. We have a long way to go.
Speaker 1: In New York, we still have to repeal the walking
Speaker 1: wall trans law, which impacts particularly black trans women, where
Speaker 1: the cops can literally just see somebody who they perceived
Speaker 1: to be trans and stopping first of them and arrest
Speaker 1: them for sex work even if they're not, even if
Speaker 1: they're not, and even if they're not sex workers. And
Speaker 1: that's how Lale and Polanko was picked up. She was
Speaker 1: held on five dollars bail. She died in Rikers. The
Speaker 1: video just came out the other day where they show
Speaker 1: her asking for help. The corrections officers laughed at her,
Speaker 1: closed the door, opening her again laughed at her and
Speaker 1: she died. So so there's so much that needs to happen.
Speaker 1: We need bail reform. We need to the city council. Also,
Speaker 1: last year they're closing Rikers, and which is great, but
Speaker 1: then they put nine billion dollars into building four new jails.
Speaker 1: That's wrong. When I'm in City Council, I'm gonna work
Speaker 1: to reverse that ruling because yes, we need to close Rikers,
Speaker 1: but why are we putting nine billion dollars into jails.
Speaker 1: There's so many people who are in jail who's shouldn't
Speaker 1: be there. We need to look at their cases. We
Speaker 1: need to decriminalized sex work, decriminalize marijuana, expunge the records
Speaker 1: of people who have that on their record. And we
Speaker 1: need to put that nine billion dollars. You can put
Speaker 1: that money back into in communities that need it. We
Speaker 1: needed to defund the police. That New York City Police
Speaker 1: Department has a six billion dollar budget. We need to
Speaker 1: take their calling for one billion dollars for this current cycle.
Speaker 1: July one is the budget. Four billion dollars is plenty
Speaker 1: for a city of our size. Four billion dollars is plenty.
Speaker 1: Thinking about that amount of money, it's so crazy. It's
Speaker 1: so crazy, especially when you have youth and senior services, education,
Speaker 1: health and hospitals, parks and Iraq housing, affordable housing, combine, combine.
Speaker 1: Their budget doesn't even equal the NYPD's budget. And then
Speaker 1: for police misconduct, they've spent almost three hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: in paying off lawsuits settlements. Do you know what you
Speaker 1: could buy with three million dollars? You know how many
Speaker 1: doctors and nurses that have ppe, how many homeless people
Speaker 1: experiencing homelessness we could have house. How many students in
Speaker 1: schools we could get laptops and iPads four so they
Speaker 1: could use them to learn. There's so much we could
Speaker 1: be using this money for um and and so. So yes,
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court ruling today is great, but there's so
Speaker 1: much still happening, Rand Paul that one of the senators
Speaker 1: from Kentucky is stopping the lynching law. Lynching is still
Speaker 1: not a federal hate crime in this country. And we
Speaker 1: have these three cases that have just been reported in
Speaker 1: the last week of people who they're calling them suicide.
Speaker 1: They're not suicides. These people were lynched hanging from trees.
Speaker 1: It's insane to me. Uh So, there's so yes, this
Speaker 1: is a great win. It's a joyful moment that we
Speaker 1: need from the Supreme Court. But there's so much the
Speaker 1: fight is nowhere near done, absolutely, and there's so many
Speaker 1: things to sort of touch on with that. It's like,
Speaker 1: first of all, to say that, um, a black person
Speaker 1: hanging from a tree is to rule out as a
Speaker 1: as a suit with side is so intellectually and historically
Speaker 1: and racially insulting on so many levels. Um, it's bullshit
Speaker 1: so every and it also talks down to everyone. You
Speaker 1: think that everyone can't can't see through that, Like it's
Speaker 1: just crazy that that they think the public is just
Speaker 1: gonna accept that as truth and move on now in
Speaker 1: this is it's ridiculous and it really just shows that,
Speaker 1: you know, people in power truly do think that the
Speaker 1: public is dumb. But that's it's it's it's like the
Speaker 1: way that they talk down to us and the way
Speaker 1: they just kind of cut print and move on, and
Speaker 1: the fact that the media hasn't always been as sensitive
Speaker 1: to this, Like we know now we have everyone's number
Speaker 1: and it is not going to stop, and we're not
Speaker 1: going to stop when we just get one positive thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think those days are over. By thinking
Speaker 1: that one election going our way solves anything. That's when
Speaker 1: the work starts. Well, look at what the media is doing.
Speaker 1: You know. I don't want to be one of those
Speaker 1: queens is like, well, the media, but when you have
Speaker 1: when you have this stuff happening in our country, people
Speaker 1: are protesting for the equality of black people who have
Speaker 1: been denied rights for five her years in this country.
Speaker 1: Um so before this country was a country, you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then you have when slavery is abolished, you then
Speaker 1: have the mass incarceration is put into play, making modern
Speaker 1: day slavery. And we've only had the Civil Rights Act
Speaker 1: for since the nineteen sixties, so it's very new, you know.
Speaker 1: So so our leaders need to be leaders. We need
Speaker 1: to vote out the pieces of ship who are are
Speaker 1: oppressing people holding them down. It takes longer to get
Speaker 1: your barber's license than it does to become a police officer.
Speaker 1: That's fucked. Um uh. Not that I want my barber's
Speaker 1: to be trained too, because I want a nice haircut.
Speaker 1: But everyone can be trained, yes, but I want our
Speaker 1: police to be vetted and even more training. In two
Speaker 1: thousand and four, the Bush administration's FBI came out with
Speaker 1: the study that said white supremacists are infiltrating our police
Speaker 1: forces in our law enforcement, and nothing has come of
Speaker 1: that study since. So that's sixteen years ago. Think about
Speaker 1: that amount of money everyone, I mean the amount now
Speaker 1: that we're really seeing and I think it's the first
Speaker 1: time that it's ever being really widely circulated. Just how
Speaker 1: much money does go to policing in this country. And
Speaker 1: you're talking to three people who lived in New York
Speaker 1: for a long time, and Bowen and I we have
Speaker 1: been We worked in story parts where we went to schools,
Speaker 1: many low income schools, and you're if you're going to
Speaker 1: tell me that the an NYPD needs that amount of money,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you it is squalor some of these
Speaker 1: elementary schools. It is crazy. They have no money. It
Speaker 1: is a joke. We need to put more money in education. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: the New York school system and a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't realize us. The New York City school system is
Speaker 1: one of the most segregated school systems in the entire country.
Speaker 1: So that needs to be fixed immediately. And we also
Speaker 1: need to get cops out of school and social workers
Speaker 1: and nurses into schools. But you have more cops than
Speaker 1: than nurses or social workers or psychiatrists, psychologists and schools.
Speaker 1: That's wrong. You need to help kids mental and spiritual health, uh,
Speaker 1: as well as getting a good education. And what I
Speaker 1: wanted to say about the media also is they're airing
Speaker 1: the protests that they're so for example in Georgia, they're saying, oh,
Speaker 1: the Wendy is called on fire, they're burning the weddis. Well,
Speaker 1: why are they burning the weddings because the police killed someone?
Speaker 1: That's why. You know, if you know people have been
Speaker 1: oppressed for five h years, light at the funk on fire.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, you you know, like stop killing people,
Speaker 1: stop killing and it's in black people. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: The redirection that keeps happening is so it's it's really pathless, honest.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's intellectually dishonest. Um. I mean when people
Speaker 1: say defund the police, what they mean is the all
Speaker 1: police departments to um within a reasonable level. I mean
Speaker 1: it's not even whatever. You dissolve police departments down to
Speaker 1: a certain levels that they become one part of a
Speaker 1: very large web of social services, so that so that
Speaker 1: you don't call the police to handle situations that they're
Speaker 1: ill equipped even solved in the first place. Even when
Speaker 1: we're not trained to solve many of the things they're
Speaker 1: called to deal with. The police doesn't it doesn't need
Speaker 1: to be every nine one one call, you know, find
Speaker 1: out what's happening and send the proper resource. But look
Speaker 1: at what Camden, New Jersey did, and now what Minneapolis
Speaker 1: is now joined. Uh. They abolished their police department and
Speaker 1: now they're rebuilding it from the ground up. They did
Speaker 1: it in Camden. That's something they're working on in Minneapolis.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how far along they are, you know,
Speaker 1: which is where George Floyd died. Um and to friends
Speaker 1: of miner on the council out there, Andrew Jenkins, the
Speaker 1: first black Jenkins Yeah, uh, and Philip Cunningham, who is
Speaker 1: a trans black man. Um there incredible leaders. They're doing
Speaker 1: great work on the city council, the two of them.
Speaker 1: People say the system is not working. The system is
Speaker 1: doing exactly what it was designed to do in America,
Speaker 1: which is oppressed certain groups of people. So we need
Speaker 1: to dismantle the system and rebuild it so it's equal
Speaker 1: and equitable for everyone. Yeah. That's actually I'm happy that
Speaker 1: you said that, because something that I wanted to say
Speaker 1: on the podcast is actually was a misuse of language
Speaker 1: on my part on the episode that we did a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, because I totally agree with you.
Speaker 1: It's not that the system is broken. Is that the
Speaker 1: system is racist and the system is working to serve
Speaker 1: white people. And if you actually really trace it back,
Speaker 1: particularly white men, what rich white men who, that's really
Speaker 1: what it is. It's in the beginning of our country,
Speaker 1: it was really all to protect rich white homeowners or landowners.
Speaker 1: So if you trace it all the way back to
Speaker 1: why we even have police, you'll find very dark reasons
Speaker 1: for why we even have police, because it wasn't a
Speaker 1: response to a freeing of the slaves and in a
Speaker 1: way to keep these people in check, and it was
Speaker 1: it's it's really dark when you actually go back. And
Speaker 1: so that's something that um over the past couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: it's really started to become much more of a narrative,
Speaker 1: and I'm happy that it is, and I'm happy that
Speaker 1: we're really leaning on this. The words defund the police.
Speaker 1: Look at my video on Instagram listeners. I made a
Speaker 1: whole video about defunding the police. Yes, it's about reallocating
Speaker 1: resources responsibly and correctly so that we are not putting
Speaker 1: all of this money to feed a system that is
Speaker 1: unfair and racist and is coming at the lives of
Speaker 1: black people. And that's just the fact. And the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is you cannot police the anger that
Speaker 1: is happening in this country because this is where we
Speaker 1: are at now, because it is now unacceptable. It's been unacceptable.
Speaker 1: But what I say unacceptable, it means it was it
Speaker 1: is no longer going to be accepted Marty when you say, um,
Speaker 1: once you're elected that you would reverse any funding towards
Speaker 1: building you prisons. On city council, can you talk to
Speaker 1: us about I mean, as two people as I'm speaking
Speaker 1: for Matten myself, it's two people who are sort of
Speaker 1: new to understanding political infrastructure when it comes to like
Speaker 1: local government or municipal government. Um, what tell us about
Speaker 1: like what being on city council means and what what
Speaker 1: sort of abilities you have? I mean, I'd have to
Speaker 1: work out a whole plan around it, but I would
Speaker 1: I would love when I'm in city council to an
Speaker 1: act legistate. So what happened was they made a thing
Speaker 1: in city council this past year where they will be
Speaker 1: closing Rikers Island by which is great. I support that, Yes,
Speaker 1: but then a vote it to in doing that, to
Speaker 1: then put nine billion dollars towards building for new jails
Speaker 1: and four of the boroughs of New York. I do
Speaker 1: not agree with that. Yes, I do think we that
Speaker 1: you know your murderer rape best, you know what there
Speaker 1: are crimes that there are people need to be in
Speaker 1: jail for. Yes, but why do we need four new jails?
Speaker 1: There are so many people in jail because people are
Speaker 1: being injustly arrested for for stuff. So that's why we
Speaker 1: need to look at why are people being arrested. I'm
Speaker 1: recovering an alcoholic and drug addict, and I look at
Speaker 1: it as if somebody is caught, you know, with drugs
Speaker 1: on them. Look at what's what's happening. Are they an addict?
Speaker 1: Are they somebody who has an addiction? You don't jail
Speaker 1: somebody for having cancer or diabetes, So why are you
Speaker 1: jailing somebody for having the disease of addiction? That money,
Speaker 1: instead of being put into a jail, should be put
Speaker 1: into getting people treatment, uh job placement, education resources, and
Speaker 1: making them a productive member of society who's clean and
Speaker 1: healthy and taking care of themselves, not in cars, reading
Speaker 1: them And oftentimes you put people in these situations and
Speaker 1: it makes it worse for them. When you put them
Speaker 1: in in jail, it's unsafe. And then the whole other
Speaker 1: side of it is you have solitary confinement, which is
Speaker 1: inhumane and wrong. You know, there's so much wrong with
Speaker 1: the jail system. The prison industrial complex is modern day
Speaker 1: slavery and it's wrong. So why are we putting nine
Speaker 1: billion dollars into that? Wait, may maybe build one new jail,
Speaker 1: not for that's crazy to me. So I wouldn't act
Speaker 1: legislation to reverse that legislation perfect because when people focus
Speaker 1: on or where people sort of fixate their arguments on them, well,
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do about the rapists and the
Speaker 1: murders and the blah blah blah. It's like, well, if
Speaker 1: you're focusing on that thing as the as the main focus,
Speaker 1: like if you're ignoring every other part of the prison
Speaker 1: industrial complex, and like that is and that's crazy because
Speaker 1: because then you because then you're completely dismissing the fact
Speaker 1: that there are mandatory minimum sentences and um gosh, like yeah,
Speaker 1: and um the fact that we've criminalized drug use in
Speaker 1: this country to begin with as a way to feed
Speaker 1: and the system you know, sex for and all this stuff. Look,
Speaker 1: there's those rumors of a little Lady g. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure Lad doesn't want sex workers going to jail now,
Speaker 1: does't she? Her? And a little Ladybugs a little bitch.
Speaker 1: We mean, we apparently had to dispel the ladybugs a
Speaker 1: piece of ship. Fuck that bitch, I said. The only
Speaker 1: thing I feel bad about is that, like, if it's
Speaker 1: not true, it's just someone who wrote crazy fan fiction,
Speaker 1: and like that, it just gives people an excuse to
Speaker 1: be like, see they're lying, and like we don't need
Speaker 1: more of that. That being said, I would love to
Speaker 1: read Lady g the House down to the absolute ground,
Speaker 1: and I don't care at all, but I will not
Speaker 1: care at all. And Mitch McConnell, look like when you know,
Speaker 1: when Ursula turns the Mermaids into those little creatures, Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: they look like it's Ursela turned into Miss Vanessa, yes,
Speaker 1: and got her wiles about her. Well, we know the
Speaker 1: we know the narrative. Martie's talking Lindsay Graham and Mitch
Speaker 1: McConnell being like, but I'm afraid yes, yes, yes, okay
Speaker 1: Flotsam and Jetsam. Okay, jets little thing, they look like
Speaker 1: a little spur. Yes, yes, yes, yea your reference to
Speaker 1: the young girls that they get turned into the little
Speaker 1: sort of like? Okay? So yes, Flatsam and jetson. So
Speaker 1: we should also say no no to everyone out there
Speaker 1: who's waiting for me and Me and Bowen to be
Speaker 1: cast as Flotsam and Jetsam in the live action Little
Speaker 1: Mermaid film. They have not followed up on our offer
Speaker 1: to be to be cast in these roles. Do not
Speaker 1: want us. I think we'd be great in the parts,
Speaker 1: but apparently it's not happening. I support that. I support
Speaker 1: that as well. I mean, I all I want to
Speaker 1: do is go under the sea. Also, this is so
Speaker 1: off topic, but I'm very sad about Kelly Clarkson too.
Speaker 1: I love Kelly Clarkson. And when she cried, when she
Speaker 1: cried singing about her dad piece by piece and saying
Speaker 1: how much her husband loves her, and then they and
Speaker 1: then the reason they're divorcing is because they went to
Speaker 1: my Tanna to get away during quarantine and they couldn't
Speaker 1: stand each other, so basically this is and I again, like,
Speaker 1: I love this woman so much. She helped me so
Speaker 1: much when I when I was a little When when
Speaker 1: when when? When? When? When? When? American Idol says alms on,
Speaker 1: I still have the vh S tape in bedroom. I
Speaker 1: still have it, oh man, Like I mean, look, I
Speaker 1: used to watch her performances back back when the only
Speaker 1: way you could re watch things was to tape it.
Speaker 1: I used to wear those VHS tapes out, specifically her
Speaker 1: performances of your Law Need Walk On by Underrated Kelly
Speaker 1: performs our American Idol of course natural Woman stuff like that.
Speaker 1: They're during the Big Band Week. I mean, we are fans.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, this is the quarantine. It will
Speaker 1: reveal all. And you know, I feel very bad for
Speaker 1: people that are in relationships right now during quarantine that
Speaker 1: are not working out, because that I'll not know. I mean, like, look,
Speaker 1: if you're in a great relationship and you're during okay,
Speaker 1: are that I and I loved that for you, and
Speaker 1: I celebrate that. But what I'm saying is like I
Speaker 1: do feel really bad for people that were struggling in
Speaker 1: their relationships and then you get put into quarantine. It's tough.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm in a relationship in quarantine,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, we've been dating for about nine
Speaker 1: months and then we went put into quarantine, and I'll
Speaker 1: be honest, we had never spend that much time together.
Speaker 1: And so it's it's like it is like there's like
Speaker 1: a little moment here and there, like like where you're
Speaker 1: you're tested in certain moments. We're doing great and we
Speaker 1: have a great relationship, but ultimately every relationship is not
Speaker 1: like that, and so I feel very sad for people
Speaker 1: who during this time maybe they weren't ready to let
Speaker 1: go of the relationship, but the quarantine reveals. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the quarantine helped my marriage. You think, so, yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't want to talk about my
Speaker 1: but you know, no, we want to talk about your marriage.
Speaker 1: There are we are Oprah and Winfrey. That's actually it's
Speaker 1: actually Culture seventy two. Bowen and Matt are bro and Winfree.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh wait, okay, so hold on before
Speaker 1: we get in my marriage. The only VHS tapes that
Speaker 1: I still own, uh, and they're all in my childhood
Speaker 1: bedroom are uh Kelly Clarkson American, I don't win Princess
Speaker 1: Diana's Funeral and the Oprah twentieth Anniversary UM collection. I
Speaker 1: have them as vhs as not dv were you were
Speaker 1: you like a young queen for Oprah? Yes, I would
Speaker 1: watch UM Ellen Can Choke. I love Love and Ellen fan.
Speaker 1: Since episode three of this podcast, we've been on record
Speaker 1: about I love Oprah and I would so I would
Speaker 1: watch every day as a kid, the Oprah Show, the
Speaker 1: Oprah win Free Show, and the Rosie O'Donnell Show. Everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel that energy from you. You loved Rosie. I
Speaker 1: love Rosie. And you know, Alice replays a friend of
Speaker 1: mine now and I name dropped out. Yeah, sorry, Mcca.
Speaker 1: Just I remember I distinctly remember see let Let's finish.
Speaker 1: No No, I love Alice. I uh so, I I
Speaker 1: just think I remember the first time I ever saw
Speaker 1: Alice Ripley was on the Rosa Dodd Show, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I love this this woman
Speaker 1: so much. It was her and Emily Skinner and and
Speaker 1: and now she's like my my girlfriend. But but as
Speaker 1: like a child, I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: want to be Daisy. I want to be Violet. I
Speaker 1: want to be a twin attached. He was talking about
Speaker 1: art acceptance speech. He was talking about art. I will
Speaker 1: say one of the most transformative experiences I have had
Speaker 1: seeing uh seeing theater was Alice Ripley in Next to Normal?
Speaker 1: It was did you see miss Alice in Next to Normal? Twice?
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Bowen, did you? I never saw, but
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with the music. It's it's incredible, I'm telling you. Weeping, weeping, weeping, uncontrollably.
Speaker 1: I won the lottery to see it, actually, like I
Speaker 1: could not believe, the first time I ever tried to
Speaker 1: do the lottery I want and we got to go.
Speaker 1: Me and my friend Mackenzie Derris. We when we sat
Speaker 1: in what I call the Lincoln seats and because you
Speaker 1: know that's where she got her head absolutely blown the
Speaker 1: f off? What is it too soon? Sorry? Everyone? But
Speaker 1: I sat in those seats and we were looking down
Speaker 1: onto the stage. And this is after Ms Aaron Tabate
Speaker 1: had left the show. But it was Alice Ripley and
Speaker 1: she was ter Massey, who I love Kyle d Massy Punk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: him and his husband Taylor are the best. I love them.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know Kyle Dean was gay. Love that
Speaker 1: I should know. I didn't know. I don't know keld
Speaker 1: Messy personally. Marty, you're you're you're among the more connected
Speaker 1: people in the city. That you are one of the
Speaker 1: most connected people in the New York City. No, no, what, okay? Sidebar,
Speaker 1: you also need to YouTube the late great Marin Mazie,
Speaker 1: Diana and um Or Diane in Next to Normal. It
Speaker 1: is one of the most epic performances as well. I
Speaker 1: am so happy that you said Mary listeners love Broadway.
Speaker 1: I'm like going on a Broadway. Oh, we love, we
Speaker 1: love the readers love from it. And actually, I will
Speaker 1: say this, I recently shout out to shout out to
Speaker 1: Helena York because I love Helen. She just donated to
Speaker 1: my campaign like a week ago. Helenna is a queen
Speaker 1: and she's been on the show and we love her
Speaker 1: and shout out. But I recently was watching Helena York
Speaker 1: gave I don't know why I fell down this wormhole,
Speaker 1: but it was Helena giving a like Broadway dot Com
Speaker 1: or whatever backstage tour of Bullets over Broadway the musical,
Speaker 1: which I didn't. I love all theater. Marty loves all
Speaker 1: what doy Allen movies. No, what do you Allen can
Speaker 1: choke too, well, what do you Allen can absolutely choke?
Speaker 1: Actually do not? Supported? That is very true. Also some
Speaker 1: t I found out Woody Allen speaks fluent Korean. That's terrifying.
Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate that. I hate that. You
Speaker 1: know why? You know why he speaks fluent Yes, So
Speaker 1: a friend of mine recently saw him arguing with Ye
Speaker 1: and they were arguing influent Korean. And that's all I'll
Speaker 1: say about. What was she arguing about? How he stole
Speaker 1: her childhood? And I mean potentially so basically, um, so
Speaker 1: Helena was giving like this back backstage tour. And so
Speaker 1: Helena played the Jennifer Tilly part olive um the like
Speaker 1: bad actress, and she was probably fucking phenomenal. But do
Speaker 1: you know who played the Diane West part was Marin Mazie.
Speaker 1: And she's a part where she goes and knocks on
Speaker 1: Marin's door and she comes out and they have this
Speaker 1: gorgeous exchange and Maren Mazie like, if you are if
Speaker 1: you love musical theater, check out Marin Mazie. She was
Speaker 1: also incredible in Ragtime. We can never go back to
Speaker 1: It's so good. She is epic. We are going to
Speaker 1: take a short break and then when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna ask Marty gold Cummings the question. We actually
Speaker 1: are back with Marty gold Cummings Bowen, what do we
Speaker 1: do now? Okay, Marty, we ask all our guests this question.
Speaker 1: And you kind of gave us a little bit of
Speaker 1: a taste for um. Taste of it with the three
Speaker 1: vhs is that you still have. But what is the
Speaker 1: culture that made you say culture is for me? What
Speaker 1: are the cultural sort of things that imprinted on you
Speaker 1: and for in a very at a very early age,
Speaker 1: that made you move in a cultural direction. Okay, I
Speaker 1: am obsessed with Princess Sana. I wish I could set
Speaker 1: this entire bookshelf over here is all Princess Diana books. Wow. Really,
Speaker 1: So when I how much time do we have? We
Speaker 1: have a lot of time. So when I was a
Speaker 1: little kid, I was at the eye doctor with my
Speaker 1: grandmother in the waiting room, and you know they have
Speaker 1: the magazines and my grandmother the magazine. You know they
Speaker 1: have magazines at the eye doctor and my grandmother that's
Speaker 1: number thirty. You know, they have magazines that doctor to
Speaker 1: really weed out the sears from the Naziers. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know, do they still have magazines? And I don't
Speaker 1: have health insurance, but I've been in a while, but
Speaker 1: you and Bowen need to get fucking health insurance. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is a whole another tangent. But I got
Speaker 1: beat up by the police, uh, and we want to
Speaker 1: talk about it. So I have a I'm still I'm
Speaker 1: still a concussed a little bit, and I just got
Speaker 1: my first medical bill from it, and I'm like a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, wait dollars and thirteen cents, and that's for
Speaker 1: one of the four visits I've had. Uh, We're going
Speaker 1: to revisit this because I want, I want everyone to
Speaker 1: hear this and I want to know how you're doing.
Speaker 1: But I'm pitting that. But Diana, first, let's talk about
Speaker 1: Lady Diana Spencer, the People's princess, and then we'll get
Speaker 1: into the police. And then we're talking about the police.
Speaker 1: To fund the police. Um so hashtag. I was at
Speaker 1: the eye doctor, uh when I was a very small
Speaker 1: child and my grandmother took me Peggy, who my psychic
Speaker 1: later told me as my guardian angel. That's who another
Speaker 1: do we stand? Peggy? Peggy's my girl. I mean, she's
Speaker 1: has been dead for a long time, but I love her.
Speaker 1: Uh Peggy, my dad's she was born in nineteen fifteen.
Speaker 1: She's amazing. The day I moved to New York City
Speaker 1: was the last time I ever saw her. She died
Speaker 1: two months later, but I sat in her bed she
Speaker 1: lived next to her, and I said, I said, Grandma,
Speaker 1: I'm going to New York. I'd love you. I'll see
Speaker 1: you in a couple of months when i'm home. And
Speaker 1: she said I was out to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I wasn't out to her because she was born in
Speaker 1: nineteen fifteen, a very different three years after Titanic, saying
Speaker 1: she was so So. I was sitting on her bed
Speaker 1: about to leave New York and she said, you know,
Speaker 1: I think God just makes gay people the way they are,
Speaker 1: and they're born that way and it's wonderful. And I
Speaker 1: love you. And that was the last thing my grandmother
Speaker 1: ever said to me. So I love Grandma. Peg My
Speaker 1: psychic says she's my guardian angel. But when she took
Speaker 1: her to the I as a child, she was flipping
Speaker 1: to the magazine and I saw a picture of Princess
Speaker 1: Diana and I said, oh, my God, that is the
Speaker 1: most beautiful woman I've ever seen. I love who is this?
Speaker 1: I love this woman? Who was this woman? And my
Speaker 1: grandmother said, oh, she's this wonderful lady. She's a princess
Speaker 1: in England and she does a lot of good to
Speaker 1: help people. She really loves helping people. And she said
Speaker 1: she has a good heart. And I know you have
Speaker 1: a good heart. And I remember that as a kid,
Speaker 1: and so I became fascinated with this princess with a
Speaker 1: good heart that my grandmother loved. And uh so I
Speaker 1: was a faggy child because I love Princess Diana. All
Speaker 1: the other kids are like, I'm playing the sports ball
Speaker 1: stuff and I'm like, like, I like Tara Read, and
Speaker 1: you were like, I like Princess Diana. Diana Spencer of
Speaker 1: al for that's where she was born anyway, so that's hers,
Speaker 1: that's wrong. So when she died, we were camping in
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Uh My parents had an RV that they
Speaker 1: would take the beach and we were out rosie marshmallows
Speaker 1: and I said, I'm gonna I'm gonna go watch TV.
Speaker 1: And I turned on the news and it said Diana died,
Speaker 1: and I was crushed. So I made my parents the
Speaker 1: next day by every newspaper that they could find about this.
Speaker 1: And I still have all those newspapers in a safe
Speaker 1: in my childhood hall, next to my Franklin mint doll
Speaker 1: of Princess Diana had never taken out of the box.
Speaker 1: And uh so anyway, So also my my wall over
Speaker 1: here is the original Time magazine special report of her dying.
Speaker 1: It's hanging next to my bed. I told my husband
Speaker 1: that we have to have that. So that's hanging on
Speaker 1: my wall here, the original the original magazine from anyway,
Speaker 1: So when she died, I wrote about I tell the
Speaker 1: story a lot, but I wrote, so this is the
Speaker 1: cultural moment. I guess that, yes, this is a long
Speaker 1: answer to your question. So we went back to we
Speaker 1: went to school. She died August. Start first. So I
Speaker 1: go to fifth grade and Robin trimbled my teacher, who
Speaker 1: I later found out was a raging homophobe. Fuck her.
Speaker 1: Uh she um. She said, I want you to write
Speaker 1: five page paper, everybody and tell me what about your
Speaker 1: summer so I get a sense of your writing skills.
Speaker 1: So I wrote my paper and it was called Death
Speaker 1: of an Icon. The Life and Legacy of Lady Diana Spencer,
Speaker 1: Princess of Wales. I gotta see, and I cried that
Speaker 1: title alone, you should have gotten. My mom said, why
Speaker 1: do you why do you think you gotta see? Why
Speaker 1: did you get to see? And I said, well, Mrs
Speaker 1: Trimble said that I didn't do the assignment, that I
Speaker 1: didn't talk about what I did this summer. And my
Speaker 1: mom said, oh, no, no, no no, my mom was a
Speaker 1: teacher of the school. She marched right, and then she goes,
Speaker 1: she goes. Marty's entire summer was affected by the death
Speaker 1: of this woman who he idolizes. He I went by
Speaker 1: here at the time. Now day, then you know, I've,
Speaker 1: as an adult, learned who I am, but become Yeah,
Speaker 1: I become me who was born to who My grandmother said,
Speaker 1: I was born to be by God. So so my
Speaker 1: my mother demanded that she changed the grade. And because
Speaker 1: my whole summer didn't matter, because my idol died, So
Speaker 1: I got an a uh. And then on my honeymoon,
Speaker 1: we were in Paris, and we we stumbled upon the
Speaker 1: tunnel where she died, and I made my husband, in
Speaker 1: degree heat in Paris, sit for like two hours at
Speaker 1: the entrance to this tunnel as I cried because I
Speaker 1: knew I said, this is the last thing. She said,
Speaker 1: this is the last thing she saw. I love so much,
Speaker 1: it's like a sick of session. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: have all these books, Oh my god, the whole shelf. Now,
Speaker 1: because you love Diana so much, do you sort of
Speaker 1: keep up to date with the goings on of the
Speaker 1: royal family? Like? Oh? Yes, Prince was my very first crush. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I love I love Sophie, Countess of Wessex, who's
Speaker 1: Edward's wife. That I met Princess Beatrice once. My two
Speaker 1: dreams growing up. I wanted to be on Broadway and
Speaker 1: to meet a member of the royal family. I've gotten
Speaker 1: fucked by a lot of people who have been on Broadway.
Speaker 1: Never been on it myself, but Badway. But my, my, my, my, my,
Speaker 1: My ex was on Broadway. My husband's played in the
Speaker 1: pit on Broadway a lot. Uh, he's a viola player.
Speaker 1: And I met Princess Beatrice when I was a teenager.
Speaker 1: I was working at Isabella's, which was a restaurant on
Speaker 1: seventy seven, uh, Columbus, and we were well known for brunch.
Speaker 1: One time Jenna Bush came in, I said, I won't
Speaker 1: serve her, but I hear she's cool. Now's I think
Speaker 1: she's she's permissible now yeah, so so so this is
Speaker 1: a true story. This is an honest to go to.
Speaker 1: And you can call Thomas Mitchum and ask him. My
Speaker 1: friend Thomas that you can call Thomas Mitcham and asked
Speaker 1: him if anybody quit, she's a story. So Princess Beatrice,
Speaker 1: who at the time was fit the line to the throne,
Speaker 1: she's now like ten third level. She's way far down.
Speaker 1: We got a little Archie now and everything. So uh
Speaker 1: a little Charlotte George, who I think is yeah, George
Speaker 1: is George. George is gonna be hosting dry Race UK
Speaker 1: before we know it. So because he's not fracking now,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the truth. So no, no, not that
Speaker 1: I have questioned. I have not that I have questions about.
Speaker 1: I have questions about that for you later too, we'll talk, okay. So,
Speaker 1: so so, Princess beat just came you guys said, oh
Speaker 1: my god, why why am I Okay? Anyway, this is
Speaker 1: far off of the political agenda I came here to
Speaker 1: talk about. But uh so, Princess Beatrice came into Isabella's
Speaker 1: and you can. You can fact check with Thomas Mitchell. Um. So, anyway,
Speaker 1: so she comes in and I said, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's heat. So we get a table cleared, and I'm
Speaker 1: shaking and crying at the host, and I was the host.
Speaker 1: I'm crying, full on sabbing. But she was very nice.
Speaker 1: She sat in the curb of this of se street
Speaker 1: waiting for her table to be sat and I was like,
Speaker 1: the fifth in line to the throne of England is
Speaker 1: sitting on her fucking table set now sobbing. So, Susie,
Speaker 1: I'm a crier. Okay, I'm about to try telling this story.
Speaker 1: I was so Susie. The waitress goes, she's already iconic.
Speaker 1: Table nineteen. Would like to see you table nineteen, Princess Beatrice. Okay.
Speaker 1: So I go to the table and I'm shaking and
Speaker 1: I'm sobbing, and I have to compose myself because this
Speaker 1: is Queen her majesty, the Queen's granddaughter. And you were
Speaker 1: at work and I was I got fired from that job.
Speaker 1: I don't care. Um, so there's many years. I was
Speaker 1: like nineteen years old. So my new Princess Beatrice and
Speaker 1: I are I think we're the same age, and so
Speaker 1: I'm like convulsing over this teenage to girl and and
Speaker 1: she goes, um, she doesn't top like that. Hoday hello.
Speaker 1: So at the time she still had protection officers from
Speaker 1: the government, but the queen later got rid of that.
Speaker 1: Uh and now her dirty dad, who should be in jail,
Speaker 1: pays for her protection. But I just watched the documentary.
Speaker 1: I I'm shocked. That's a whole another conversation. But so
Speaker 1: she goes, could you her protection officers were eating outside,
Speaker 1: and she goes, could you make a very um fruity
Speaker 1: gay drink and take it to my protection officers and
Speaker 1: sing Happy birthday? She asked me to this. So I
Speaker 1: go up to Thomas Mitchell, my friend who is the
Speaker 1: bartender you can fact check, and I said, I need
Speaker 1: the prettiest drinks you can make, and I take them
Speaker 1: to the protections and I'm shaking, but I couldn't say
Speaker 1: Happy Birthday. Was so nervous. I just dropped the drink.
Speaker 1: She called me back over to the table. She goes, Oh,
Speaker 1: how did it go? And this is honest to God's truth.
Speaker 1: You can fact check it with Susie the waitress or
Speaker 1: Thomas Mitchell. I do not lie, I'm not a liar.
Speaker 1: This is the true story. And I'm so embarrassed that
Speaker 1: I'm telling this. So I say, oh, your your highness,
Speaker 1: and her friends are like laughing, and I'm calling her
Speaker 1: your highness, and I'm like, your highness, I'm so I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm so nervous, I'm so nervous. I'm such a I'm
Speaker 1: such a pussy. I couldn't do it. And then I go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I just said pussy to a princess.
Speaker 1: And I started crying the most guttural I princess title
Speaker 1: that I and I started and she and she hugged
Speaker 1: me and she said, you're very charming. It's very nice
Speaker 1: to meet you. Uh. And then she asked me where
Speaker 1: Urban Outfitters was, and I had to do everything in
Speaker 1: my power not to be like, oh, of course, you
Speaker 1: your Fergies daughter, of course. So I got very upset
Speaker 1: that she wanted to go to Urban out But she
Speaker 1: was very lovely, and she was very kind, and she
Speaker 1: was very very she was she was she was very
Speaker 1: funny and very nice. And I have to say that
Speaker 1: having a role encounter, it was now, like many years later,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that is the best way to have had
Speaker 1: a role encounter because she to hearth and she was
Speaker 1: with her like boyfriend who she lived in New York
Speaker 1: at the time, and she's like with her boyfriend and
Speaker 1: her friends, and she was just grateful that somebody like,
Speaker 1: did you hear that? What was that? Marty? Are you
Speaker 1: what was that? No? It was what's going on out there?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was. I think it's a firework.
Speaker 1: The neighbors are shooting off fireworks, um for the queers
Speaker 1: and uh So, anyway, it was the best experience. And
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I kind of met
Speaker 1: Diane because Diana was I met Diana. Well, that was
Speaker 1: obviously meant a lot to you so much to me.
Speaker 1: I want to know to like, what's your take on
Speaker 1: the Harry and Megan of it all. I love Prince Harry.
Speaker 1: He was my first crush because he looked like Greg
Speaker 1: who was in my third grade class who I had
Speaker 1: a crush on. Who. I mean, he's he's hot, He's
Speaker 1: so hot, and I bet he's saying saying no, no,
Speaker 1: he's so hot. Um. And I love Megan. I think
Speaker 1: she is incredible and I think that I think, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that they're going to do such
Speaker 1: incredible things with their new platform, and I think that
Speaker 1: he's following in the footsteps of his mom. And I
Speaker 1: think Megan is so beautiful and I love her mom.
Speaker 1: I loved her mom at the wedding, was so beautiful
Speaker 1: watching her and I think, Um, I just think she's
Speaker 1: so beautiful and so incredible. And I hope that that
Speaker 1: the Royal Family someday welcomes them back in because I
Speaker 1: think that they the Royal Family needs is shaking up
Speaker 1: in a modernization, and I think Megan and Harry are
Speaker 1: like the ticket and I love them. I was thinking
Speaker 1: that too, that Harry has some of Diana's spirit in
Speaker 1: terms of like wanting to disengage for the right reasons,
Speaker 1: like not wanting to play the game of being in
Speaker 1: that family too much. He wants to be of service
Speaker 1: to other people. And I think that if you're in
Speaker 1: the public eye in any form, even if you're not
Speaker 1: in the public just been a human being, you should
Speaker 1: be of service to other people. Right Like, where our
Speaker 1: world is a scary place, as we talked about earlier,
Speaker 1: we have to be of service. User voices so many
Speaker 1: people are are experiencing homelessness, so many people are experiencing
Speaker 1: um uh, income insecurity and food insecurity and aren't knowing
Speaker 1: how they're going to pay their their bills. We have
Speaker 1: people who have been out of work for three months.
Speaker 1: We have undocumented people who don't have access to unemployment,
Speaker 1: who are scared of what's going to happen. We have
Speaker 1: we have people who need help. So it's it's incumbent
Speaker 1: on all of us to come together and be of
Speaker 1: service to other people. And and uh, I also think that,
Speaker 1: I mean, flat out, the way that she was being
Speaker 1: treated was abusive. The way that she was being spoken about, um,
Speaker 1: she was being attacked. She has been every day by
Speaker 1: the media. She was killed by the paparazzi. She was
Speaker 1: murdered by the paparazzi. Yes, she she she was and
Speaker 1: she was certainly en route to being treated similarly too.
Speaker 1: And she was being treated treated similarly to Princess Diana.
Speaker 1: And honestly, I think Harry must have trauma his life. Well,
Speaker 1: he said that, he said he has PTSD. Whenever he
Speaker 1: hears the cameras clicking, he thinks of his mom. It's traumatic.
Speaker 1: He was a child he was a young child, he
Speaker 1: was like thirteen years old. I think that he did
Speaker 1: the right thing on every level, and I think that
Speaker 1: it's really gross, Like like, you know who's the most
Speaker 1: one of the most disgusting people in the world is
Speaker 1: Piers Morgan. Oh gardens trash, don't even we don't need
Speaker 1: to talk about no, no, what a piece of cow dung? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is dung. He's absolute dung, absolute dung. And I
Speaker 1: just want to point out that Marty Gold Cummings tied
Speaker 1: uh their remations on Trince Harry back to their campaign
Speaker 1: and that is beautifully beautiful campaign work happening right there. Wait,
Speaker 1: can we talk about Okay, can we shift gears? And
Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a tonship to let's
Speaker 1: talk about Well, first of all, I want to lead
Speaker 1: with your testimony at the City Council Public Um Committee
Speaker 1: for Public Safety. That was iconic. You were unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: You were not Marty, You and I were d m
Speaker 1: ng throughout the whole. Yeah, thanks for sharing that. You
Speaker 1: like it started at what ten am, and then it
Speaker 1: lasted into and then you you didn't testify until what
Speaker 1: four pm? Until about three or four o'clock in the afternoon,
Speaker 1: I think probably around three, probably around three o'clock, like
Speaker 1: two o'clock. I was dming you was like, are you
Speaker 1: gonna go uposite? Like I was like, what this is
Speaker 1: going on for so long? What was so infuriating about that? Is?
Speaker 1: Um oh, it's eleven eleven maga wish wish I wish uh.
Speaker 1: So the hearing the Public Safety was for to get
Speaker 1: testimony from the NYPD about their actions during this Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter movement, how they treated protesters, particularly during the
Speaker 1: curfew that the mayor put in place. So a lot
Speaker 1: of citycounts members were there. They all asked questions, a
Speaker 1: lot of questions. It took a long time, but what
Speaker 1: was I don't mind the city count members asking questions
Speaker 1: because they want to hear what they have to say,
Speaker 1: and we need the council members to do their job,
Speaker 1: which they did in question in the NYPD. So so
Speaker 1: we just we should say that there was the commissioner
Speaker 1: was not present, but the commissioners Shay was not there,
Speaker 1: but he sent the deputy what a bitch move? Who
Speaker 1: was should? I think it's important to say Deputy Commissioner
Speaker 1: of Police is a black man and to me, it
Speaker 1: felt like strategic in a way for them to put
Speaker 1: him out there is the face absolutely absolutely and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: well we're we're you know, don't don't like grill him
Speaker 1: too hard. He is. He also has his own like
Speaker 1: intersectional experience with this whole whole thing. I've met Commissioner
Speaker 1: shay Uh a while ago at something, and he probably
Speaker 1: doesn't remember me, but he wasn't very nice. Umst Michelle
Speaker 1: of Cops. He's Michelle of Cops. It's a it's weird,
Speaker 1: it's a rule of culture number Commissioner, he's resign and
Speaker 1: the mayor should resign. And I am a pole force
Speaker 1: in saying that, and I don't know a lot of
Speaker 1: other candidates to have said that. But what the mayor
Speaker 1: did with that curfew in itself, to me was um
Speaker 1: racist and wrong because a lot of people who are
Speaker 1: essential workers who work at night, are members of our
Speaker 1: black and brown community, are are are members of our
Speaker 1: immigrant community, and a lot of people who uh they
Speaker 1: sent the alert out on smartphones pretty soon to when
Speaker 1: the curfew was taking place. A lot of people might
Speaker 1: not have access to a smartphone. Not everybody has access
Speaker 1: to a smartphone, and they only put it out in English,
Speaker 1: which is wrong. So people were being arrested and and
Speaker 1: and and put in these these situations with the police
Speaker 1: where they shouldn't have been to begin with. We should
Speaker 1: said during a pandemic, and also illegally because you're it's
Speaker 1: illegal to arrest essential workers. Yes, and they were still
Speaker 1: doing it, and it's it's so insane. So during the testimony,
Speaker 1: the police were giving lie after lie after lie after
Speaker 1: lie after lie, and so by the time it got
Speaker 1: to the test my testimony, I'm so proud of everybody
Speaker 1: who testified. It is incredibly hearing some of their stories. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it was incredibly courageous to hear from people
Speaker 1: shout out, yeah, we have a friend testified was arrested
Speaker 1: on his own porch, on his front step. Yeah, along
Speaker 1: with the delivery worker, central worker. And then there was
Speaker 1: there was somebody who I can't remember their name, but
Speaker 1: this uh trans person who was beaten so badly they
Speaker 1: urinated on themselves they you know, and then they were
Speaker 1: miss gendered. They they were made fun of and mocked
Speaker 1: by the police the whole night, and their testimony was
Speaker 1: on there, so it's public record, you can see it.
Speaker 1: I can't remember their name, but they were so brave
Speaker 1: telling their their story. I was so pissed because during
Speaker 1: my testimony was on a zoom so you could see
Speaker 1: the people, and I saw that the three cops who
Speaker 1: were testifying were no longer in the room. And I
Speaker 1: got pissed because how dare you subject us to your
Speaker 1: lie saying that you provided masks for people? Know you didn't,
Speaker 1: saying that you didn't beat people, Yes you did. I
Speaker 1: have a concussion and I have the n three dollar
Speaker 1: fucking medical bill to prove it. You you have. You
Speaker 1: have them saying, oh, we were only arresting agitators and looters.
Speaker 1: That is not true. When I was arrested on the
Speaker 1: West Side Highway, I was marching with my hands in
Speaker 1: the air, peacefully with a group of people, and they
Speaker 1: started coming towards these girls who were like a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifteen pounds with their baton swinging. So my group
Speaker 1: of friends and I circled them and they just came
Speaker 1: for us. It's wrong, and they lied continuously. The treatment
Speaker 1: in jail was horrible. The treatment was horrible for me.
Speaker 1: It was even worse for people of color. The way
Speaker 1: they treated uh black people. They arrested, it's wrong. And
Speaker 1: so to hear them lying under oath was so annoying
Speaker 1: and so aggravating. So when they said, oh, your time
Speaker 1: is up, I said, not today. I want to keep
Speaker 1: going because people need to hear it, and every single
Speaker 1: person who was arrested should tell their story and the
Speaker 1: interests of really understanding what happened, could you just walk
Speaker 1: us through what happened? So you were protesting and what happened. Well,
Speaker 1: I started out at a regular march, and then I
Speaker 1: went to Stonewall for the vigil for our black trans community,
Speaker 1: you know Tony mcdad, Nina pop Leili and Polenko uh,
Speaker 1: people who have been been killed by either violence or
Speaker 1: or police violence. Uh. And so it was a huge
Speaker 1: gathering of people and we marched to the West Village
Speaker 1: and through the city and ended up on the West
Speaker 1: Side Highway, and right after eight o'clock the police came
Speaker 1: down the highway with their Briton's literally, so there's a
Speaker 1: video of it. You can see the video on Instagram,
Speaker 1: swingeing and they go in and I didn't realized this.
Speaker 1: My husband. I remember remember seeing my friend Nathan go
Speaker 1: down and seeing the look in his face, and I
Speaker 1: remember pushing my husband out of the way and the baton.
Speaker 1: I don't remember this, but he saw this, but I
Speaker 1: pushed him out of the way. The baton that was
Speaker 1: going to hit him is what hit me in the head.
Speaker 1: And then they The next thing I remember, I was
Speaker 1: having a cup, you know, like or you're under arrest
Speaker 1: and standing me up. In the video there's four cops
Speaker 1: on me. I so the doctors think I blacked out
Speaker 1: for a minute, uh, because I don't have that. I
Speaker 1: have no recollection of four cops on top of you.
Speaker 1: But I remember when I realized what was happening. I
Speaker 1: said to myself, I'm so grateful. I'm sober because I
Speaker 1: have a program of recovery that's taught me um prayer
Speaker 1: and meditation and taught me how to just tap in
Speaker 1: conscious contact is what we call it, conscious contact with
Speaker 1: higher power, to just tap in. And I knew in
Speaker 1: that moment. I said, if you if you freak out,
Speaker 1: you're going to get really hurt. And if you you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a panic, you're gonna you're gonna lose your mind.
Speaker 1: So I I the entire time was just Okay, you
Speaker 1: need to focus. I think it's like like that fight
Speaker 1: or flight mode. I was like, I need to focus
Speaker 1: and pay attention to every single thing that's around me.
Speaker 1: What do they look what do their faces look like?
Speaker 1: Do I see badge numbers? What are those numbers? What
Speaker 1: are their names? What are they telling me? You know,
Speaker 1: and and really focusing and listening to every single thing
Speaker 1: that happened, because I was like, you know, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to tell this story and you need to have
Speaker 1: it factual as best as you can. And I didn't
Speaker 1: even know I had a concussion until I got home
Speaker 1: from jail. I was arrested at eight fift PM and
Speaker 1: I and I walked out of the jail at seven
Speaker 1: a m. And I didn't know I had a concussion
Speaker 1: until later that day. My husband and my roommate were like,
Speaker 1: you look in saying like my eyes were going all
Speaker 1: over the place. I was slurring my words. So that's
Speaker 1: when I went to the hospital. So sorry. And then
Speaker 1: the next day my arm was but you know, I
Speaker 1: had this really bad. You know, so there's like nerves
Speaker 1: stuff from being in cuffs for so long and uh,
Speaker 1: but you know, but I look at it as you know,
Speaker 1: my experience with the police was traumatic and terrible and scary,
Speaker 1: But because I was born a white person in America,
Speaker 1: I got to go home and live. We're protesting because
Speaker 1: so many people, even during these protests, like we talked
Speaker 1: about with Atlanta, people are being murdered by the police.
Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor's murderers are still on the police force, getting
Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars. They have not been arrested or charged. We
Speaker 1: have um uh police officers. I went to a rally
Speaker 1: at City Hall where over ten families spoke about their
Speaker 1: loved ones in New York City being killed by the police.
Speaker 1: Innocent people, unarmed people, some people who had mental health issues,
Speaker 1: and the police didn't know how to handle it, so
Speaker 1: the reaction is to kill them. And all of the
Speaker 1: officers are on the police force still. So I got
Speaker 1: to walk away with my life because I was born white.
Speaker 1: But we're marching because how many people have died, have
Speaker 1: continued to die, and how many people do we not
Speaker 1: know about because we just now have cameras to be
Speaker 1: able to show what's happening. You know, how many people
Speaker 1: has this happened to before? So so yeah, my interaction
Speaker 1: with the police was shitty, but we're marching because people
Speaker 1: are dying because of the systemic racism that this country
Speaker 1: has put in place that has allowed cops to get
Speaker 1: away with murder. I mean, just hearing you talk about this,
Speaker 1: and just seeing things happen on the ground, um, from
Speaker 1: from all the protesters, um, especially especially black protesters. UM.
Speaker 1: It just as a New Yorker and I'm sure Man
Speaker 1: agrees with this, and I hope and I'm sure you
Speaker 1: agree with this. It just feels like the curfew itself
Speaker 1: bore out so much trauma for our city that I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't I don't see us recovering from
Speaker 1: this trauma in a way that makes us trust institutions again,
Speaker 1: especially the police. Um, but that makes us trust at
Speaker 1: least build a Blasio or just like people we elect.
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's it's just so hard. I mean,
Speaker 1: the only salve for this is through our elections, through voting,
Speaker 1: and and through voting for for people like you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and look at who people are getting donations from. Look
Speaker 1: at who who Who who's funding people's campaigns? Who who?
Speaker 1: Who is in bed with the police unions? Who is
Speaker 1: in bed with the real estate corporation corporations? Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo the governor. The other day, people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm a homosexual, don't be because the other day he said, oh,
Speaker 1: we repealed fifty A. You guys want to stop protesting. No,
Speaker 1: we're not going to stop protesting. Fifty eight is one
Speaker 1: law out of a lot of injustices that are happening.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Brianna Taylor's murderers are still on payroll
Speaker 1: where She's from. You know, there are still NYPD cops
Speaker 1: who are on payroll. Eric Gardner's killer is not in jail,
Speaker 1: and Bill de Blasio is the mayor that kept him
Speaker 1: on the force for five years, making six figures after
Speaker 1: we all saw Eric Gardner murder for what? For selling
Speaker 1: a Lucy's cigarette? Do you know how many Lucy's cigarettes
Speaker 1: I bought up the bodego over there. I don't smoke anymore, Okay, kids,
Speaker 1: don't we don't smoke. I don't smoke anymore. But you
Speaker 1: know I used to love a camel crush, goddamnit, and
Speaker 1: back in the day. No more healthy and very holly.
Speaker 1: Don't eat me either, very healthy. But but that's insane
Speaker 1: that somebody would be murdered for that. So uh, Bill
Speaker 1: de Blasio is a piece of ship. And look at
Speaker 1: who who's running for office, what they stand for. Who's
Speaker 1: saying to defund the police, who's putting policy together to
Speaker 1: make that happen, and who's working to make sure that
Speaker 1: the communities that have been impacted the most are going
Speaker 1: to get those funds. Who are the people who are
Speaker 1: working to get things right in this this city and
Speaker 1: this country. And who were the ones who were going
Speaker 1: to just keep the status quo billed a Blasio is complicit,
Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo saying, even him saying, you know, stop protesting
Speaker 1: you want, No, we haven't, him saying, oh no, We're
Speaker 1: not going to take down the Columbus statue because of
Speaker 1: Italian heritage. Columbus was a rapist and a murderer. Put
Speaker 1: a statue of the Lenape people, who who who the
Speaker 1: Manhattan belonged to? Put puts a statue honoring them. Put
Speaker 1: a put a statue honoring you know, leaders who have
Speaker 1: done things, not fucking rapist and murderers. It's it's really
Speaker 1: it's really crazy that the Columbus of it all is
Speaker 1: like a national scar It's really crazy. And the fact
Speaker 1: that he celebrated every year, I mean and it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And then people are talking about, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: whole argument over Confederate statues. There's a statue in New
Speaker 1: York that's I don't know the guy's name. I can't
Speaker 1: remember his name, but he was a doctor. There's a
Speaker 1: statue of him in New York. He was a doctor
Speaker 1: who who who? Who? Who performed surgeries on black women
Speaker 1: and black children. And people say, oh, he did all
Speaker 1: these great things for medicine. He mutilated black women and
Speaker 1: children's bodies against their against their will. He stole that
Speaker 1: these people and mutilated their bodies. I don't give a
Speaker 1: funk what scientific stuff he came up with. He did
Speaker 1: it at the cost of human life. And there's a
Speaker 1: statute to him in New York and that statute needs
Speaker 1: to be torn down and thrown in the fucking river too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: This idea that because things are quote unquote history, it's like,
Speaker 1: that's a history that you want to acknowledge, and you,
Speaker 1: because your in power, got to decide that still stands.
Speaker 1: That is not It's it's like this weird thing that
Speaker 1: history is cannon for everyone. It's like, let's really get
Speaker 1: real about you can teach history without idolizing. It's illegal
Speaker 1: to have statues of of Hitler in Germany. They still
Speaker 1: learn what happened because because it's a historical thing, we
Speaker 1: can learn about these things. But idolizing people with the
Speaker 1: statue is fucking wrong and disgusting. I would love for
Speaker 1: you if you're able to spotlights on people that you
Speaker 1: were excited about that are going to be running outside
Speaker 1: of yourself, Like who who should we be looking at
Speaker 1: in New York or around the country? In New York,
Speaker 1: around the country. I want to know who are you
Speaker 1: excited about New York. I'm excited for Uh my friend
Speaker 1: Alisa Crespo, who is running for City Council the Bronx.
Speaker 1: When she wins her seat, she'll be the first trans
Speaker 1: woman UM to hold office in New York City Council.
Speaker 1: Transported to color. My friend UM Kristen Richardson UH Jordan,
Speaker 1: who's running in the council district next to mine, would
Speaker 1: be the first UM, black queer woman to hold office
Speaker 1: in the New York City Council. My friend Sammy oliveris
Speaker 1: who is running for district leader in New York right now? UM,
Speaker 1: who else is running that? I just love UM? I saw.
Speaker 1: She tweeted him you met Eliza Orleans tonight. She's running, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's running. She's running for d. A. Uh my my
Speaker 1: friend Yanos is also running for d I like them
Speaker 1: both very much and and and I think I think
Speaker 1: they're both really great. Uh. Megan McCain blocked me. She
Speaker 1: did that is a badge. That's a liah Michelle like
Speaker 1: being the dragon at Lia Michelley. Did you tweet it?
Speaker 1: Did you tweeted her? Well? She said something about how
Speaker 1: she loves, you know, LGBTQ people, and I was like,
Speaker 1: your husband runs the Federal List. Um, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's the t And also I got I have bad
Speaker 1: news for everyone who loves Leah on Real Houses in
Speaker 1: New York contributed to The Federalist. Look at not Great.
Speaker 1: Oh Ramona Ramona called me a he she wants shut up.
Speaker 1: Fuck Ramona. I've said this before and I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: I hope Ramona dies alone. I really. She called me
Speaker 1: here doing a radio interview together years ago, and she
Speaker 1: brought hair and makeup and I was like, we're on
Speaker 1: the radio. I didn't say that true, but I just
Speaker 1: thought I was like, who is I was like, we're
Speaker 1: on the fucking radio and you're getting your hair and makeup,
Speaker 1: don out of here, and she brought like her she
Speaker 1: brought her jewelry line to show and I was like,
Speaker 1: and then she she said something. She goes, I don't
Speaker 1: remember the context of it, and she goes, oh, you
Speaker 1: know you're like he she or whatever, and I was like, Nope,
Speaker 1: actually a person. This is before I came out as
Speaker 1: a non binary. I was like twenty years old when
Speaker 1: this happened, and and that made me like feel I
Speaker 1: knew I was like different, you know, I didn't have
Speaker 1: the language for it at the time, identified as you know,
Speaker 1: like a gay man. But I knew that there was
Speaker 1: something that I wasn't connecting with, you know, flat out.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it right there. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: need a definition of privilege, it's Ramona fucking Singer thinking
Speaker 1: she can say whatever she wants because she's on Real
Speaker 1: Houseives of New York. It really impacted me in such
Speaker 1: a negative way for like a lot time. And I
Speaker 1: and and now when I watch her on TV. I
Speaker 1: mean I love the Housewives. I mean, but when I
Speaker 1: watched it, my husband gets so so mad because we'll
Speaker 1: be watching every single time Ramona comes on the screen,
Speaker 1: I go, I hate Ramona. I fucking hate her on
Speaker 1: the record, I hate her. What's good about her? What?
Speaker 1: What is good about he gets he's he's like, I know, Marty,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I know, but it
Speaker 1: needs to be said again. And who do you like?
Speaker 1: What's your what's your Housewivee's moment like what? Well? I mean,
Speaker 1: Dorenda has always been so lovely every time, you know,
Speaker 1: I have turned this number to call her. Um during
Speaker 1: Durrend has always been lovely to me. I I like Dorenda.
Speaker 1: Um it's a little it's a little dark for me
Speaker 1: this season. Well, you know, Dorenda, you know, I think
Speaker 1: it's like she said, she never got to more and Richard,
Speaker 1: she was with John for a long time. She's now
Speaker 1: Hannah's out of the house. She's not with John. She
Speaker 1: hurt her home that she loves was like, you know,
Speaker 1: she had to redo it because it was like flood
Speaker 1: or whatever that happened in And I think she's she's
Speaker 1: coming into she's you know, I think compassionate, Queen you are.
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for Dreda, but I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, for so many people you. You, when you're
Speaker 1: raising a family, or you're married or all this stuff.
Speaker 1: You you're so invested in making sure that everybody else
Speaker 1: is okay that you forget to take care of yourself.
Speaker 1: And I think Durnda's having this dark moment because she
Speaker 1: she's like, who am I what? Just what? You know?
Speaker 1: She's like, what does Dorinda? Like? What makes Dorinda? And
Speaker 1: she's figuring that out. And I think that now that
Speaker 1: Tinsley is gone, she doesn't have anyone easy to pick on.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna we're gonna see it turn in word
Speaker 1: very quickly. I miss Carol. I love Carol. Bowen identifies
Speaker 1: as a Carol. She's a princess. You know that she's
Speaker 1: a Kennedy You know she is a Kennedy princess. She
Speaker 1: she's a princess. She married a prince or something, and
Speaker 1: it's really, it's really cult number three, Carol is a
Speaker 1: Kennedy princess. I also believe I'm still sitting in my
Speaker 1: hip pads right now. Oh my god, do you watch
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills? Girl, Girl is the Grass Green? Uh? Yes,
Speaker 1: I watched Beverly Hills. I love Beverly Hills. Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: is words, but they're on a hiatus right now. And
Speaker 1: why all the previews said we're gonna know this Denise
Speaker 1: and and Brandy's situation, but now it's gone to July.
Speaker 1: I need to know. I need to know. I'm Denise Richards.
Speaker 1: I'm on the magazines. You wish you were on a
Speaker 1: work bitch. I love Denise. And also, can I say something?
Speaker 1: You are? You are you caught up with Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: I don't watch I don't watch any of Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: so but I'm happy to Can you guys talk about it? Okay?
Speaker 1: So Denise Richards is the best thing that's happened to
Speaker 1: the show in a long time. And you can tell
Speaker 1: the reason that they're targeting her is because they all
Speaker 1: cannot deal with the fact that she's the fan favorite.
Speaker 1: Oh man, her husband's a lack of doodle though. Job.
Speaker 1: You need to get you need, you need to get
Speaker 1: up to date, because he is like one of those
Speaker 1: crazy conspiracy theory persons. Total dundee, he is not. But Denise, Okay.
Speaker 1: In her confessional is that what they call it the
Speaker 1: confessional or whatever? Yeah, they're talking head confessional or whatever.
Speaker 1: Her confessional. She looks like her character from Drop Dead
Speaker 1: Gorgeous but lucky and lean. She is Becky and Lemon,
Speaker 1: all grown up and it's confessional and I and even
Speaker 1: she's wearing the Todder's in tears off of that She's
Speaker 1: wearing in one of the confessionals. I'm like, I forget it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I love Erica Chaine. Um Dorito's too
Speaker 1: much for me. I can't. I'm not. I always and
Speaker 1: forever love Kyle and Mauricio. Is I want to I
Speaker 1: want to have an only fans with Mauricio. I love him?
Speaker 1: Can I say Mauricio? And I'm not speculating. I love Kyle.
Speaker 1: Kyle's what I see when I look in the mirror.
Speaker 1: I thought, I will say this, what's the deal with MAURICEO.
Speaker 1: He has not been around And that's all I'll say
Speaker 1: about that one. What he's on like five episodes this season? Girl,
Speaker 1: there's something going down. Stop it. I know I'm not
Speaker 1: know too much. With Kelly and her divorce, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to talk about. I love Kyle Marizio. Stop it.
Speaker 1: Are you excited about the return of his Brandy? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't like Brandy. I mean, who likes Brandy, but
Speaker 1: she's come back to stir it up. Fucking fucking Denise.
Speaker 1: Brandy probably hangs out with La Michelle. Oh god, what
Speaker 1: what an allegation? We have a team Leon rhymes person
Speaker 1: here in the end the zoom. Yes, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's delicious. What is her? How do I live with? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's she's Yeah, she's an icon. We're actually we're gonna
Speaker 1: take a break and we're gonna come back, and it's
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, time everybody. Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1: I think it's time for I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: This is our segment where we take one minute to
Speaker 1: rail against something in culture. Um that's just getting on
Speaker 1: our nerves. Um. Could be anything that's going on in
Speaker 1: the world right now, could be something that's happening on
Speaker 1: on a personal level or on a global level. It's
Speaker 1: up to the reader, it's up to a person, um
Speaker 1: to to to rail against what you want to rail against.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, oh no, I'll save it
Speaker 1: for the end. Okay, Well, we know there's something coming.
Speaker 1: There's something coming. Something it comes. I do can you
Speaker 1: time me? Yes, I do have something because something actually
Speaker 1: came up on Twitter today and I actually couldn't believe
Speaker 1: what I was seeing. Oh my goodness. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: so this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many
Speaker 1: as time starts now, I don't think so, honey. The
Speaker 1: n y U culture right now, all you little n
Speaker 1: y U twinkie gays are getting online and talking about
Speaker 1: Timothy shallow May, spreading rumors that he spread clamidia while
Speaker 1: he was in New York at n y U, saying
Speaker 1: that he is a clamidia fiend. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: First of all, if you were a twenty year old
Speaker 1: at n y U, you don't you and you think
Speaker 1: you know someone who knows someone who knows someone who's
Speaker 1: up with tell me, Timothy Shalomy, let me tell you
Speaker 1: something right now, No twenty year old at m y
Speaker 1: U knows a fucking thing. You don't know anything for
Speaker 1: a fact. I don't think so, manny all you you
Speaker 1: remind me of me when I was eighteen year old
Speaker 1: saying I quote unquote knew for a fact that James
Speaker 1: Franco banged everyone on my floor. I didn't know ship
Speaker 1: for a fact. I was a liar for attention. I
Speaker 1: see you guys getting on Twitter and you a little
Speaker 1: means and you're trying to take the actor at the
Speaker 1: moment Timothy Shalomy trance to slander him. Also, why are
Speaker 1: you spreading harmful things about someone sexual health? Oh so
Speaker 1: I have to say this, clammydia is not a big
Speaker 1: fucking deal. You need to grow up. I don't think
Speaker 1: so high. If you think lamydia is a big deal,
Speaker 1: be a grown up like me and get syphilis. And
Speaker 1: Williams from someone who worked for Good Morning America or
Speaker 1: so he said. Until then, I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute that was so saturated with information.
Speaker 1: That's what I have to say. I have to say.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of little twinks online right now, and
Speaker 1: I quote retreated one of them who were like, the
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, I know for a fact
Speaker 1: that Timothy Shalom may give everyone at chlamydiat at end
Speaker 1: right and well en Yu is the clamydia of colleges,
Speaker 1: but gave everyone and n y U clamydia. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, you don't know this for a fact.
Speaker 1: You're a twenty year old looking for attention online. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, he's coming for the gen z Ears. Well,
Speaker 1: it was such a funny too, because he was like,
Speaker 1: I know someone who knows someone who knows someone who's
Speaker 1: up with tillingmy Timothy Shaloman and got chlamydia. And it's like,
Speaker 1: First of all, bitch, why are you talking about someone's
Speaker 1: sexual health. This is very twenty years old of you.
Speaker 1: Second of all, bitch, you do not know that because
Speaker 1: this is a game of telephone that I cannot co
Speaker 1: sign on. Third of a bitch, I was you talking
Speaker 1: about James Franco back in the day, And I know
Speaker 1: I was lying. Fourth of all, bitch, chlamydia is not
Speaker 1: a big deal. Like I said, clam India, you take
Speaker 1: a pill and you get better. And if it's true,
Speaker 1: let the let the child spread the chlamydia. Get on
Speaker 1: my level and get syphilis. And that's a role of culture.
Speaker 1: At number sixty six, Get on my level, and I
Speaker 1: got the monster of all s t I s And
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. It was not quote unquote
Speaker 1: a day in the park. Marty is scandalized. Marty scandalized.
Speaker 1: I think that was a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, Well. I
Speaker 1: don't like this rumor spreading. I don't like I don't
Speaker 1: like the stigma around sties, and I don't like the
Speaker 1: stigma around sexuality. And I think that people are just
Speaker 1: they get really excited. And the fact of the matter
Speaker 1: is Timothy Shalomgans who all the young girls are beating
Speaker 1: off to nowadays, so they can't wait to talk about
Speaker 1: how much they quote unquote know him and know about him?
Speaker 1: Is he the one from the call me call me
Speaker 1: your name, Yes, call me by your name famously. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna stigmatize S T I S, then that is
Speaker 1: a hair away from you saying, um that sex work
Speaker 1: should be criminal should be criminalized. It's also shich is wrong. No, no,
Speaker 1: you're when you're not kidding. I'm I'm I'm being I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm. This is a bad faith argument I'm making.
Speaker 1: This is all. That's all I'm saying. Let's just say this.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of things that I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey on this day, and I picked you, n
Speaker 1: y U twinks causing drama. Shut up, I have a similar.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, actually wow, and I love
Speaker 1: the similar to manically similar And speaking of your I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. It might be time for you
Speaker 1: now here's the thing, Bowen, I famously got into a
Speaker 1: bike accident last week and my phone was shattered, so
Speaker 1: I was able to um time you. So do you
Speaker 1: mind timing yourself? Of course? Here, I'll do all. I'm
Speaker 1: doing well by the way I have. My wounds are
Speaker 1: healing actually really really quickly. I'm actually I think I'm
Speaker 1: of an x men with the way I'm healing. It's
Speaker 1: really kind of crazy that I'm happy. I'm happy you're
Speaker 1: healing and you're recovering. A sorry, party is very lost. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. I don't think so, honey, And it's
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so honey. People who
Speaker 1: a um posted that whole gen z versus millennials TikTok threat.
Speaker 1: I mean it was funny, but no, this is the thing.
Speaker 1: Be the person on Twitter. I can't find their handle.
Speaker 1: I mean they were being very funny, but they said
Speaker 1: that that sounds like an episode of lost culturistics that
Speaker 1: that you and I talk in terms of being like,
Speaker 1: I'm a hufflepuff. I hate adulting. We have never let
Speaker 1: it be known on the record that Matt and I
Speaker 1: have never not once said the word adult ing. I
Speaker 1: abhore that word as much as the gen Zers do.
Speaker 1: We talked about Harry Potter maybe once a year, and
Speaker 1: I at this point sucking hate Harry Potter, and I
Speaker 1: rejected the whole full wholesale, and I truly whatever. Like
Speaker 1: you know what, the gen Z or someday they're going
Speaker 1: to be in our position and they're going to look
Speaker 1: back at the younger generation, the generation creeping up behind them,
Speaker 1: and think, oh, no, we were the cool ones back
Speaker 1: in the day when COVID was so just everyone. Let's
Speaker 1: stay in our lanes. Let's all coexist as generations. We're
Speaker 1: not that you're not gonna You're not gonna okay, boomer Us.
Speaker 1: You know that's one minute, You're actually not gonna. No.
Speaker 1: It was wonderful, and you know what, it brings up
Speaker 1: a really great social point, which is that gen Z
Speaker 1: will get old, okay. And I love and we love
Speaker 1: gen Z so much. We love Billie Eilish so much
Speaker 1: for yourself, and I knew you'd bring up Billie Eilish.
Speaker 1: And also the facts of the matter is I don't
Speaker 1: like that it's all on Billie Eilish's shoulders to represent
Speaker 1: j Where's Lord, Where did she go? Where the fund
Speaker 1: is Lord. It's actually a really culture number one where
Speaker 1: is Lord. She was supposed to release new music, but
Speaker 1: then her dog passed away, so she's really traumatized. So
Speaker 1: she's taking time to work on I think a dog album,
Speaker 1: which I'm looking forward to. It's very mindy Cyrus and
Speaker 1: her dead pets. I'm going to say on like, I
Speaker 1: love that for Lord. I love I love that for
Speaker 1: Lord Tree. You know that's gonna be a good album. Well,
Speaker 1: I am. Lord is one of the great young artists. Uh,
Speaker 1: I agree? I agree, Marty. Marty. Marty is shell shocked
Speaker 1: right now. What's going through your mind right now? Marty?
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be here, Marty. This is Marty's
Speaker 1: first time really observing. I don't think culture. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and we're so happy that Marty's here. Okay, Marty, would
Speaker 1: you like to do and I don't think so. Honey,
Speaker 1: you're required to you. I say, well, you brought up
Speaker 1: Harry Potter, which was gonna be my do it, do it?
Speaker 1: Do it? Do it, do it? Do it? Do it? Okay, Marty,
Speaker 1: this is Marty wo coming down. Don't think so many
Speaker 1: of their time starts it now. I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: j k rally in the middle of a pandemic and
Speaker 1: a Black Lives Matter movement decides to become a turf
Speaker 1: and talk about how transport women will. Guess what, j
Speaker 1: K roan and I give a funk about your Lagardi
Speaker 1: levios a bitch. Alright, Harry Potter went into the wind's
Speaker 1: back and all the time to talk to Morty Myrtle
Speaker 1: and nothing happened. So get the funk together, all right. Also,
Speaker 1: transformon over women, transmitter men, and non binary people are themselves,
Speaker 1: So get your ship together and focus on what's really happening.
Speaker 1: We're a pandemic where people are dying and getting sick,
Speaker 1: and governments aren't paying attention, people aren't wearing mask and
Speaker 1: he have Black people who are being killed by systemic
Speaker 1: racism by the American police forces. So we needed to
Speaker 1: fund the police. Get your act together, keep going, keep
Speaker 1: taking one another thing. I don't even like that fucking spider.
Speaker 1: It was a dumb plot point. Oh as a little
Speaker 1: bit sorry you j k rallies, to get your ship together,
Speaker 1: your turf, focus on what matters seconds and trans woman,
Speaker 1: our women, transmitter man, non binary people on themselves and
Speaker 1: from us and that's one minute. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: got all that in thirty seconds. I don't forget it.
Speaker 1: You really laid in and honestly, that was a speed
Speaker 1: and rapidity that we aspire to, and you really nailed J. K. Rowling.
Speaker 1: And I have to say, as someone who loves in
Speaker 1: Orlando Theme Park, it is frustrating to me, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to be bypassed. Harry Potter World saved my life
Speaker 1: once and gone gone. Please continue. How did it Harry
Speaker 1: Potter World save your life? Okay? I want to know World.
Speaker 1: It's actually a rural culture. Number sixty four saved my life.
Speaker 1: So my husband loves Disney theme parks and loves amusement parks,
Speaker 1: and so we were ned to Larida and during Halloween
Speaker 1: season and he was like, we have to go to Halloween, Horror,
Speaker 1: Fright Night whatever at Universal. It is scary, bitch scary.
Speaker 1: So I said sure, I uh. Haunted houses okay, So
Speaker 1: cyber I got hired to do a haunted house with
Speaker 1: a Lissa Edwards and Rocky Andrews Ones. And I was
Speaker 1: felt so bad scaring the people that I would apologize
Speaker 1: to them by scared and they and they were like,
Speaker 1: you need to stop, and I'd be like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that I felt And I felt bad
Speaker 1: with a Lissa and Roxy and and all these drag queens. Anyway,
Speaker 1: cy I think I had like I felt bad because
Speaker 1: once when I was in like fourth grade, I pee
Speaker 1: my pants on a hunted house that my brother worked at.
Speaker 1: Uh anyway, okay, So moving on. I was at Universal. Hey,
Speaker 1: these people are all on costs, people are you know whatever?
Speaker 1: So I see this girl in a cheerler costume. Oh fun,
Speaker 1: little cut cheerler costume. How cute? And uh, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: waving at the cheerleader and uh, look at a little
Speaker 1: raw rack girl. And then she reaches behind this bush
Speaker 1: and pulls out the biggest chainsaw I've ever seen. And
Speaker 1: this cheerleader, you know, Ashley or Megan or whoever call
Speaker 1: her and get something to call him now. So Karen's
Speaker 1: chasing me with this chainsaw and I'm screaming. So my
Speaker 1: husband and all of our friends are laughing, having a
Speaker 1: good old time watching me die, and I um and
Speaker 1: I'm crying and screaming. And then she sits, she does
Speaker 1: the signal, and little two more cheerleaders with chainsaws come out.
Speaker 1: You gave yourself away. I I thought I was gonna tie.
Speaker 1: So I, uh, there's a taco truck and I got
Speaker 1: in the line because they can't get you in the
Speaker 1: food line. I was and there and they literally you
Speaker 1: can't stay there all day. So then by this time
Speaker 1: there's like six or seven cheerleaders with chainsaws. My I
Speaker 1: can get through a haunted house, but I hate the
Speaker 1: chainsaw because what if what if one of them is
Speaker 1: nuts and they put the chain on it and really
Speaker 1: try to well, come on, they make it. I also
Speaker 1: think we were at the same year because it was
Speaker 1: like it is what you're describing. It was like it
Speaker 1: was like a junior prom and raised blue and white
Speaker 1: cheerleader outfits a little bit so Harry. So I see
Speaker 1: the door and I didn't know what it was, but
Speaker 1: I said I wanted there. I don't wanted there. And
Speaker 1: I opened the door and all of a sudden was
Speaker 1: a diagon Alley. Now Harry Potter World diagon Alley. The
Speaker 1: diagon Alley is not allowed to have the horrorie because
Speaker 1: it's a tame. So when I tell you I wrote
Speaker 1: the Green Got Bank Ride, it's so good, Paul, I said,
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving until the part closes. I'm staying in
Speaker 1: here in Harry Potter World. So J. K. Rowling is
Speaker 1: a stupid turf, But Harry Potter World saved my life
Speaker 1: from those wretched little cheerleaders who frankly they they looked
Speaker 1: like Trump's supporters. They live in well, they lived in Florida.
Speaker 1: I also have to say one thing. I have to
Speaker 1: say one thing about Harry Potter books, Harry Potter films,
Speaker 1: Harry Potter theme parks, whatever. Don't let J. K. Rowling,
Speaker 1: being a jerk and a turf take the experience that
Speaker 1: you had with the books away. I thought Daniel Radcliffe
Speaker 1: put it really beautifully, because if you have a relationship,
Speaker 1: and you gotta read Daniel Radcliffe's sort of statement on
Speaker 1: this matter, because I thought it was beautiful and I
Speaker 1: really love him and I give him a hug wherever
Speaker 1: he is. If you got something out of that book
Speaker 1: that was about how love can conquer, all about how
Speaker 1: you know this, the eve illness that is purification of
Speaker 1: race is something to be chased out of the world.
Speaker 1: If you got positive things out of the book, if
Speaker 1: they're a part of your childhood, no one can ever
Speaker 1: take that from you, and I thought that was really beautiful.
Speaker 1: And you know what she She's Baltimore. She's been changed
Speaker 1: by her wealth, and she's been changed, and she is
Speaker 1: not able to recognize her privilege any longer. And she
Speaker 1: is a different thing. But your experience with the books
Speaker 1: and with the films, and with your enjoyment with that
Speaker 1: content is yours. And don't let it get me ruined
Speaker 1: for you. That's my message. You know what Harry Potter
Speaker 1: books did to me. They loved Daniel Radcliffe. What is sweetie?
Speaker 1: I I wish rosa Donald Show was still around so
Speaker 1: he could be a guest on it. But bring it back,
Speaker 1: bring it back. But I love the Harry Potter books
Speaker 1: until the final book came out on my twenty one
Speaker 1: birthday and everybody left my birthday party to go get
Speaker 1: in line at Barnes and Nobles. Shut up for all
Speaker 1: eugen Zers who are coming for my millennial nous. Barnes
Speaker 1: and Nobles is a bookstore. If you know what I'm
Speaker 1: book is, you're all bitch. Learn about books? How about that?
Speaker 1: Learn about books? Learn about don't ever come for don't
Speaker 1: ever come for the bus before we before we go.
Speaker 1: I did want to ask you. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to leave without asking you about this. But like, so
Speaker 1: you've been a drag artist for years and a decade. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: over a decade, so you kind of have seen like
Speaker 1: drag race explode Dragon to this next level. I recently
Speaker 1: found cleaning out my papers. Uh my, do you remember
Speaker 1: a couple of at the beginning of the pandemic. It's
Speaker 1: not a weird sentence at the beginning. I remember at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the pandemic, the National International Nightmare. At
Speaker 1: the beginning of the pandemic, I posted my season two
Speaker 1: audition tape on my Instagram. Oh my gosh, how many
Speaker 1: years did you audition? Uh? And I posted them because
Speaker 1: I was going through my papers and I found the
Speaker 1: note card that RuPaul used to sign himself being like
Speaker 1: thank you for all. It was like a printed carpet.
Speaker 1: Then RuPaul would like sign it being like thank you
Speaker 1: for auditioning for RuPaul's records for season two. And I
Speaker 1: found that. I said, I said, I I'm going to
Speaker 1: post my season two audition. Wow, And it's there. I'm
Speaker 1: grateful that human beings can evolve and and grow and learn. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. I get you because I
Speaker 1: started drying before YouTube tutorial. So everybody, every dry queen
Speaker 1: had to have a messy phase. Mine just happened to
Speaker 1: last six or seven years. But you know, every dry
Speaker 1: queen has to have a messy face. Now these girls
Speaker 1: come out looking you know, uh Telapia, They said, what
Speaker 1: did you just started doing that? They just look so
Speaker 1: beautiful because they look at the inner web and paint
Speaker 1: before they come out. I didn't have the luxury of
Speaker 1: the you know, dial up and so so I I
Speaker 1: was very um, unfortunate looking. But the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is, like you, what you work was authentic? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know I I worked. I worked, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why. Talent um. Yeah, you know. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say I'm not a great queen, but I
Speaker 1: I know what my strengths are and I and I
Speaker 1: and I think you know a lot of these queens
Speaker 1: today Listen, you can look beautiful, but if you can't
Speaker 1: hold an audience by yourself on stage for an hour,
Speaker 1: you are an incredible queen. And you are you are,
Speaker 1: you are inspirational. And I I feel like if drag
Speaker 1: Race has made people think that being an incredible queen
Speaker 1: means showing up with a perfect face and a perfect
Speaker 1: shaped body in terms of how you constructed it, and
Speaker 1: being able to be good at snatch game, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: Let's just say for the second that that is not drag.
Speaker 1: That is being a drag race contestant. So you are.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love the show. I love watching the show,
Speaker 1: and of course we all love the show. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love the show. I love seeing my friends on it,
Speaker 1: and I love seeing and meeting new friends because of it,
Speaker 1: you know, getting to work with Queen, I've worked with
Speaker 1: so many of them. I'm filming something. I mean, it
Speaker 1: will be out by the time this air, so I
Speaker 1: can say I'm filming a Netflix panel with a bunch
Speaker 1: of drag race girls. And I'm very lucky in my
Speaker 1: career that I've been able to have a career that
Speaker 1: many drag race girls have without the show. I'm very
Speaker 1: I'm very fortunate, and for whatever reason the universe has
Speaker 1: has made I'm very lucky and I and I think
Speaker 1: it's important. Like I said earlier, whenever you have anything
Speaker 1: like that in your life, use it to be of
Speaker 1: service to people. So I hope my drag is an
Speaker 1: opportunity to show people that yes, you can be funny
Speaker 1: and silly and do fun stuff and you know, tell
Speaker 1: silly stories about saying I'm a pussy in front of
Speaker 1: a princess. But at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: hope if anybody takes anything away from my drag, I
Speaker 1: hope it's that, you know, drag is political. Drag is
Speaker 1: an act of political revolution, and it's self, uh that
Speaker 1: use your drag to be of service, and use your
Speaker 1: platform to be of service, and and and you have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to really help and educate people. That's why
Speaker 1: I love shows like We're here. I love with with
Speaker 1: you know, Dragnificent. I was so grateful to do Shade
Speaker 1: Queens when we did that. Um, I love the Boulet Brothers.
Speaker 1: Dragula shows a whole new side of drag where there's
Speaker 1: drag kings and and all different types of drag artists.
Speaker 1: And I and I and I think, um, I you know,
Speaker 1: I I love see you know jan and Jackie and
Speaker 1: Britta are great friends of mine, and I loved seeing
Speaker 1: them this season. And I can't wait to see who's
Speaker 1: on the next season. And uh and I and I
Speaker 1: like that drag Race put out a statement about the
Speaker 1: fans this week, you know, stop being the fans are
Speaker 1: so vicious to those girls and say the most racist,
Speaker 1: awful stuff, and it's terrible. That's not what drag is about.
Speaker 1: You know. It's a competition where you're you're competing for
Speaker 1: a crown, but at the end of the day, like
Speaker 1: we're all, you know, a community and and drag. The
Speaker 1: greatest thing about drag is the friendships you make because
Speaker 1: of it. And and I hope that all these fans
Speaker 1: who watch that show see that, Like the girls care
Speaker 1: about one another even though they're competing, and they're reading
Speaker 1: each other. And there's shade. Shade is not being an asshole.
Speaker 1: Shade is like a funny, silly thing. Don't be a dick,
Speaker 1: you know, And a lot of these fans act like that,
Speaker 1: and it's wrong. You know. Drag is about uplifting one
Speaker 1: another and supporting one another in your art, whatever your
Speaker 1: art is. And um, And so I was happy that
Speaker 1: the show put out that statement. I wish the host
Speaker 1: put out more statements. Yeah yeah, But I love World
Speaker 1: of Wonder and I love Drag Race and I'm grateful
Speaker 1: that they've given me so many opportunities to be on
Speaker 1: panels a Dragon. I love doing Dragon. I love being
Speaker 1: a voice at those events and I and I love
Speaker 1: working with them. You're doing because you are a superhero
Speaker 1: and we're so proud of you as a representative of
Speaker 1: our community, and we're so excited about everything that you're
Speaker 1: gonna do. And I mean we are we are huge fans.
Speaker 1: And this is what I was gonna save earlier on
Speaker 1: for for later was I mean, this is just me
Speaker 1: saying that, Uh, just seeing Marty and Action is to
Speaker 1: love Marty and I. You know, Marty, Marty, Marty and
Speaker 1: I we worked um a march one time. Wait, my
Speaker 1: eyebrows are so busted that day. I don't remember that.
Speaker 1: I knew, Oh oh clunky chunkies. They look they looked
Speaker 1: like two clubs. You would shoes on my face. I
Speaker 1: don't want to think you were great a long gray
Speaker 1: wig and a purple feather dress. And then it was
Speaker 1: truly like float after float, community after community that was
Speaker 1: representing the whole march. Like you were running down and
Speaker 1: like dancing with them and people were just ecstatic to
Speaker 1: see you. And I was like, oh, that's right, Like
Speaker 1: Marty is like I love being queer. I love pride.
Speaker 1: I love being queer so much. I love you were
Speaker 1: someone who embodies every part of that spirit like you
Speaker 1: unify people. You bring people together from from every corner
Speaker 1: of this community that you would in terms of in
Speaker 1: terms of disparate communities that you would think wouldn't be connected,
Speaker 1: but didn't you bring them together in such a beautiful way.
Speaker 1: And I think, I mean yes, your drag is inspiring,
Speaker 1: your drag is public service. And it's so amazing to say.
Speaker 1: We love it. We love it so much, Marty, thank you,
Speaker 1: we love you, Thank you so much for being here.
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