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Speaker 1: Listener discretion is advised. The World's origion Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It's a Saturday on

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday before Thursday game. I got that in before

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Speaker 1: Paul stepped down. Anything to add. Paul knows his mouth

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Speaker 1: to shut you just wait, zip it, let him sip it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the bills are favored. I don't know the number,

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Speaker 1: but it was five five, so that's eight yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: if you do the math right. You just didn't know

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Speaker 1: why you're making me laugh every time you do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm so mature. I can't handle it. Serenia and Serenian whatever, Hey, Jan,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Serenia whatever his name is. It's like Evan

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Speaker 1: couldn't be bothered by the Eagles offense is like what

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Speaker 1: I dream of and like my favorite dreams. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know you had a girlfriend, I would absolutely tell it.

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Speaker 1: I'm in love with ball. This is dreams about my

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Speaker 1: favorite dreams. Did you see that? R I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: about this game. Let's see what we've got. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: let's let's just get it over with. I'm excited. Let's

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Speaker 1: just get it like no, let's let's just rip this

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Speaker 1: band aid off. This is Patriot's Unfiltered fueled by Duncan.

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Speaker 1: Well if we ripped the band aid off Thursday? Ouch

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Speaker 1: ouch ouch, all right, it is Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and uh getting ready for the West Coast trip Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals coming up Monday night. So it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: while before the Patriots have another game. It's me, It's deuce.

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Speaker 1: Eventually it'll be a full house. Paul's filming a camera,

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Speaker 1: Practice was at noon today, so Evan will be here

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Speaker 1: and probably to Maroon, maybe Alex, and it'll be a

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Speaker 1: full house today. Yeah, eventually we'll get everybody started off

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Speaker 1: yet get them, We'll get him on the straight narrow.

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Speaker 1: But um, yeah, it's been a while since the Patriots played.

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Speaker 1: That was Thursday, and it'll be a while until they play,

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Speaker 1: which will be Monday, because technically this is a Monday.

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Speaker 1: gonna get right again? I think next week, but we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be a little bleary eyed as we go into Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess now that's still a Sunday game, but Sunday

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Speaker 1: afternoon after the flexing. So yeah, we haven't had a

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Speaker 1: to talk about what transpired Thursday night. Um, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones play was I mean, I know, for that

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Speaker 1: and maybe they all fly out for Vegas, and Josh,

425
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: that's the thing, the whole You'll see no one at Arizona,

426
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 1: but they'll all be there for Vegas. Right. I think

427
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: I think there'll be a good contingent in Vegas because

428
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: you also have the Josh angle of its Vegas. Yeah

429
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 1: and Vegas. Baby. I mean I was going to say

430
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: that in and out right, that that that's why people

431
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 1: in and out in Arizona. That's probably true. All right,

432
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: fair enough, fair enough, We're all going to Vegas for

433
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: in and out. I really call me crazy, but I don't.

434
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm not the like high on Vegas. I don't think

435
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: it's like probably my least favorite places to go. Welcome

436
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: to middle age. Why is that? I just it's just

437
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: do I way too young to take. I think Miami's

438
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: better than too over the top. It's too over the

439
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: top thing like do you think Vegas is too much?

440
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: But Miami no is not. But listen hear me out.

441
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: Hear me out being at the swimming pool and seeing

442
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: women in like heels and like full face of makeup

443
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: and just fully dressed. I'm like that in Miami though

444
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: too right, not so much. No, I'm not. I'm not

445
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: hanging out too much at the pools when we go

446
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: to Vegas and you know, and I think that's another

447
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not a gambler. I'm out in the

448
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: casino like I've never done any of that. Yeah. I

449
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: think I think of vacation spots I need like water, beach, Yeah,

450
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: that's true, relaxation. Been much shopping? Are you went to shopping? Yeah?

451
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: But how about gambling? She's not at the game. I'm

452
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: just kidding. Dinner dancing, it was fun. Short doses. I

453
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: would Yeah, I'm with Fred, I really would enjoy Vegas,

454
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: but a couple of days I'd be like, Okay, I

455
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: gotta get Yeah, training camp in Vegas was a little

456
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: bit much by the time that you were the wild

457
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: men out there. By the time the game rolled around,

458
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: I was ready to go home, especially because it was

459
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: a preseason game. On Trent Brown. Yeah. When when Trent

460
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: Brown tweeted that, I was like, one, Trent, Yes, Like

461
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: can we just get this game over with and let's

462
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: get let's get update one John Robinson if anyone cares it,

463
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: says Titans owner Amy Adams. She said in a statement

464
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: on the website, There's more to be done and higher

465
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: aspirations to be met. I'm just surprised, I thought, I mean,

466
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: I said at the top, I just think the Titans

467
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: have done a good job last few years. They've had

468
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: six you know, I mean, Ryan, get your fire. It's

469
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: I mean, we talk how tight the how tight it

470
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: is just to like base your team on Derrick Henry

471
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: and he goes out and all of a sudden, you're

472
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: you're you're kind of searching for answers. But they've done

473
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: it really well. Whatever that happens, you wonder is there

474
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: the power struggle between the head coach and the gene.

475
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: I think that's did the head coach win? That's sort

476
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: of the things that have trickled out about A. J.

477
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: Brown is that that trade was more a John Robinson

478
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: trade than it was Mirabel trade. I think I think

479
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: Fred probably has it. I think that's probably right. You

480
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: know what you guys are talking about in terms of

481
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: a power struggle. I would also, as he is on

482
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: the screen over there, I would also mention that, oh,

483
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: I believe that Mike Vrabel knows that there's a ceiling

484
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: with Ryan Tannehill that they have hit over the last

485
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: I think to Mike's point that he just brought, like

486
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: how much further can this Derrick Henry lead team go?

487
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: This is it? And I think a lot of people

488
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: thought they were going to fall off a cliff this year. Well,

489
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: it looks like they're going to be good enough to

490
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: win a bad division, but they're not going What are

491
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: Henry Stat's last three games? I heard they're not that good.

492
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,239
Speaker 1: I's been held and check. I don't know exactly off

493
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: the top of my head, but all I know is

494
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: is that the guy that was on the screen was

495
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: obviously Tom Brady last night. It's hard to imagine that

496
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: Vrabel didn't want Brady a couple of years ago. Real quick,

497
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: do you remember a couple of weeks ago when I

498
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: was like going through that thing about some guys just

499
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: have that that thing where things that they don't have

500
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: anything to do with just always seem to work out

501
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: for them. The last eight minutes of that game was

502
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: the epitome of Tom Brady, Like good things just happened

503
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: to that guy. Yeah, And everything that the Saints could

504
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: do wrong in the last eight minutes that had nothing

505
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: to do with Brady, the Saints did. And much like

506
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: like the twenty eight to three game, if any of

507
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: them went a different way, they lose, like literally any

508
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: of them from I'm going to kick a field goal

509
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: up ten on fourth and like a yard and a

510
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: half instead of trying to make it a three score game,

511
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,239
Speaker 1: I'm just going to continue to make it a two

512
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: score game, which meaningless, ten and thirteen meaningless. The next

513
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: time they get the ball third and one, thirteen and

514
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: they can't convert it, what did they do? Thank you,

515
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 1: thank you Evan for watching, because I know no one

516
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: else did I turned it. I turned it on because

517
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: I knew that he was going to come back. I

518
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: did too. Oh, I know it was coming in. I

519
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: have Evans and Godwins. I was like, oh, this is great.

520
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna benefit. Then I didn't benefit, but anyway almost did.

521
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: Godwin's cut touchdown? Yeah cost me to win? Whatever? Um

522
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: so on that. On the drive before that, the first

523
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: scoring drive, the Saints are completely blanketing him the all night.

524
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: They're playing like you know, too deep that like the

525
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: Mannings were talking about the quarters coverage, and all of

526
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: a sudden they go single high. Mike Evins runs right

527
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: by the guy wide open. They have to interfere with

528
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: him at like the three yard line, easy touchdown, so

529
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: it allows him to get like fifty yards on one play.

530
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: They had over three minutes before when they scored the

531
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: first touchdown. Still do you need that three and out?

532
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: Was there aids out they were going to get a

533
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: three and out? Heaven? Was there any doubt? Was that

534
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: the ingram one where I don't think that. I don't

535
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: think the Bucks forced to three and out all game,

536
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: But I would have been anything that I had in

537
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: my possession that they would have a three and out

538
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: right down to Taysom Hill dropping that pass down the scene. Now,

539
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't put it on Tastom Hill. You gets throw

540
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: like a twenty five yard scene route to a quarterback,

541
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get you know, have a hard time

542
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: completing that one. But they didn't. They took no time

543
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: off the clock at all. And then to top it

544
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: all off, the Bucks went right down the field and

545
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: Dennis Alle just stood there and said, I don't think

546
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: I'll need just I don't think I'll need any of

547
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: those time outs here that they had a whole three

548
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: seconds left when the TA was over answer in the tank.

549
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. Am I wrong? Did I just any?

550
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: And I as I was watching this, my first reaction

551
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: to when he threw the touchdown to Rashad wife or

552
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: the game winner, for my first reaction was like he

553
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: how does he do this? Like? How does he do

554
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: this every single time? Then my second reaction is since

555
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: he left, we can't do this right, Like we like

556
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: that drive that he put together at the end of

557
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: the game that doesn't exist here anymore, Like you can't

558
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: you just can't do that now. The most amazing part

559
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: of him capping the comeback was that. I was like, yeah,

560
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: that's pretty much exactly what I thought was going to happen.

561
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: And that was my reaction. It was a lot of

562
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: other people's reaction too. It's just a credit to just

563
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: how I mean, I thought Troy Aikman was great at

564
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: the game. He's like, you know that he is the

565
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: best that's ever. It's just so cold blooded in those situations.

566
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: And he's throwing to like a washed Julio Jones. It's

567
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: a rookie running back out of the backfield sport. He's

568
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: I agree, a washed l Jones. And suddenly it looked

569
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl. That was a great catch. Yeah,

570
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: And you're just it's funny because now I see people like, oh,

571
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: they're about to get Tom bradyed, and I'm like, wow,

572
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: I've coined tom Brady. Yeah, to get Tom Brady. Imagine

573
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: how bad they would be that team, Like that's twice

574
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: he's done that. Yea with the Rams and the Saints,

575
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: Like that team is just in disarray. It's amazing that

576
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: how difficult it is for them to score points. Yeah,

577
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, no offense. Yeah, they can't run the ball

578
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: and they can't protect the passer. So he does it again. Um,

579
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: and that makes Patriots fans even more miserable, doesn't I think?

580
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: So it doesn't bother you as much, doesn't make you

581
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: more miserable. Patan, Well, I mean, but I'm also a

582
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady fan, right, Yeah, So that's what I'm saying.

583
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: You think it really makes everybody more? He just well,

584
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: you yearn for the days of your Okay, it doesn't.

585
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: The first season, I hated it. I hated watching him

586
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: play for another team. It was like kill my soul

587
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: every time I could see him in a bed. But

588
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: I've gotten used to it now, and I think I've

589
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: reached a point, at least now where I just kind

590
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: of appreciate that he continues to do. Appreciate it. Now

591
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't appreciate it, but I think at this point

592
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: I do look at it, and I keep reminding myself

593
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: to degree that even if you was still here, I

594
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: think it would obviously be better because he would carry

595
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: the team like he did last night in certain games.

596
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: But they're so dysfunctional in so many different areas that

597
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: would see this is where you're missing. Is it nineteen?

598
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: It's nineteen. He wouldn't allow it. He would not allow

599
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: it to be dysfunction. It would be like nineteen. Yeah,

600
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: it would be like it wouldn't be it would be better.

601
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: It would be what do you know what they did

602
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: in nineteen They were twelve and four? Yea, it would

603
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: be better than that. This this team would be better

604
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: than twelve and the offense would be better. Yes. Do

605
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: you think if you put him, why isn't the Bucks

606
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: offense better than? Just out of curious, do you think

607
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: that if Tom Brady was so for example, all the

608
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: floating rumors about him coming back for his last year,

609
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: if you think he put him in this situation right now,

610
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: keeping everything as it is with Matt Patricia calling the plays,

611
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: that it would be better. I'm saying that if Tom

612
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: was here, probably Matt Patricia wouldn't be calling the plays.

613
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. That's that's fair, and I

614
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: think that is fairer what that guy looking at my office,

615
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: he would allow this from the get go to have happened, right,

616
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: and he would have to make that's fair. I also

617
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: think that there's another element of it too, where I

618
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: saw last night that OBJ was at the MAV's Sons

619
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: game and they're all according him to Dallas I think

620
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: you might get a meeting with OBJ if he's still here, right,

621
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: like if you have Brady and building together. I think

622
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: I think OBJ loves Belichian, right, and I think he

623
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: loves Brady too, the quarterback that he yeah, he wants

624
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: to go somewhere. We're just going to get the ball, right,

625
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: So I think that there's that element of it too,

626
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: where he gets Julio Jones, who I just mentioned. I

627
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: think Julio Jones is pretty much washed, but it's a

628
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: name brand receiver. Maybe OBJ takes a meeting here. Now

629
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: you can't even get a meeting with him, So I

630
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: think that there is an attraction that he brings that

631
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: maybe he could bring in some other people. But I

632
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: just I'm wary of the fact that the team would

633
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: be a super Bowl contender simply because they dropped Brady back.

634
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't think they'd be a super Bowl contender, but

635
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: I think that the record would be a lot better

636
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: than of course, of course, yeah, all right, well that's

637
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: to Fred's point. I think the offense would look better,

638
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: but I didn't even bring in the variable of Patricia

639
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't even be the cord enough, Tom would be. You'd

640
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: rather not have anybody right, like you just dumb, I

641
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: got this, don't worry about it. It's It's funny though,

642
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: the way Tom runs that offense is he does really

643
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: depend on the sleeve, you know, like it's not all

644
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: but it does flat. It doesn't flat though, but it's

645
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: not all up in his head. Like he really does

646
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: use that sleeve, I think more than when he was

647
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: here within New England. Yeah, you know, I curious how

648
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: things have changed for him over the few years in Tampa.

649
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: You know, just how he's offensively playlists that he likes things.

650
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: You know, How's how's the change just being in another

651
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: offense for a few years and you know, not being

652
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: away from Josh. I mean there's probably some interesting and

653
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: to you a point, like I think the biggest problem

654
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: for them this year and I'm obviously way outside looking in,

655
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: but I think it's it's him and all that he's been. Like,

656
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he put anywhere near the time to

657
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: prepare for the season that he normally does. And obviously

658
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: now we know why. Yeah, you know when he just

659
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: like leaves training camp for eleven days, you think he

660
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: wanted to do that. Like, I think the biggest part

661
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: of The problem with that offense right now is he's

662
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: not quite as sharp as he normally is. And he

663
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: overcomes all these things like they still have good wide

664
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: receivers even though like it's a washed Julio Jones. He

665
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: is like the third guy, third, a fourth guy. Um

666
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: they have been like Evans. They just doesn't Byron Left,

667
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: which is also on the radar of or is he

668
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: really any good? Because Brady calls the two minute offense himself,

669
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: and that's the only time they moved the ball, and

670
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: that's the only time they moved the ball. So he

671
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: when they get to the line of scrimmage at the

672
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: two minute offense, Tom is calling the plays and all

673
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden their offense comes to life. And then

674
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: when they when they're in the other three and a

675
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: half quarters of the game, they can't move the ball.

676
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: It was fascinating to watch that. Did you watch any

677
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: of the manning thing last night? Um? So, Randy Moss

678
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: was on UM and he's told the story about UM

679
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: secretly meeting with the Patriots and O six at the

680
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: Minnesota Monday night game. You've heard trapes of that. S

681
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: So he that was the year before. Obviously they traded

682
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: for him, and he has told the story of the

683
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: Patriots are playing on Monday night in Minnesota. He went

684
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: to the hotel and he went in. I think he

685
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: met with Brady. Yeah, Doug Gabriel told him how great

686
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: the offense Wasn't you already knew that part of it? Yeah, Oh,

687
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: I just learned that it was recent. It was recent.

688
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: I thought we talked about it though. No, I definitely

689
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: know the story of him meeting I did. He credited

690
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: all the credit last night Randy Moss gave to Doug

691
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: Gabriel for when he was here in oh six. He

692
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: told him what a great facility and the structure of

693
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: the organization and how they have the whole program is

694
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: set up and this is a perfect place to play,

695
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: which I thought was really funny given the way it

696
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: sort of ended for Doug Gabriel. I think he was

697
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: a guy who was unreliable and they had to cut him,

698
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: like they got him in the middle, like you're desperate

699
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: for somebody, and he made some place when he was

700
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: here and they had to get rid of him because

701
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that they felt like he was reliable

702
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: and this this guy was the one who's selling Randy

703
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: Moss on it. I thought that was past. Came out

704
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: at some other point in the last year, Paul, I'm

705
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: forgetting what but some kind of video. It was just

706
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: the duck Gabriel Park that I wasn't a kind of

707
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: the rest of it. I had known. I'm pissed. I'm

708
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: blanking on all this because it was a whole story

709
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: that came out. It's just how the whole courtship went

710
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: and really interested going in Minnesota, somebody one of the

711
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: colors they've been over. So Randy Moss said, you know,

712
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: it was funny because Eli goes, uh, yeah, you know,

713
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: and they call him Moss. You know, everybody calls Randy Moss.

714
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: They just called him Moss. They go, yeah, Moss. Uh.

715
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: You know, Eli still wants to know, he goes, Eli says,

716
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: he goes, p pat still wants to know if maybe

717
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: you can tell that story to see if you can

718
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: get the Patriots charged with tampering. And it was kind

719
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: of funny, but they sort of they talked to him like, so,

720
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: how did you do it? Like how did you like,

721
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: you just went to the hotel, and he said he

722
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: went into the hotel, he had like a hoodie, put

723
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: the hood up and he went through the backstairs. He

724
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: went up with like fifteen flights of stairs. He said, wow,

725
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: to get to flew right up in my bed to

726
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: get to the brady. Um. I thought it was really

727
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: be fair him going up fifteen fights star, not like

728
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: me doing Yeah, it's probably like a normal person going

729
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: up like three right, yeah, not like me doing it

730
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: where I would have had a stop at like flight eight.

731
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Yet feeling back in my quads. I think he also

732
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: mentioned last night I saw it somewhere on the tweet

733
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: machine that he had an opportunity to return to New

734
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: England near the end before he retired. I did not

735
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: see that, which but I wasn't like watching it intently.

736
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: I was going back and forth to some different like

737
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: the Bruins were on, you know, Bruins are very entertainment

738
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: game on their way back in. Were you there? Did

739
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: you do these last night? Bruce got a little emotional

740
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: playing team please. It was a really I mean, it

741
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: was a regular season game, which is meaningless in the

742
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, but it was really entertaining regular

743
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: season right. Well, I it's funny that you said that.

744
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: As soon as the game was over, I immediately textured

745
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: blew up felgerl Tony and Jim Murray said, Bruins blew

746
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: feld to celebrate, I mean celebrates all right. Eight five

747
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: five Pats five hundred is the ace ticket hut line

748
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: eight five five Pats five hundred. Web radio at Patriots

749
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: dot com is the email address? Anything else we need

750
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: to talk about? We mentioned that the Patriots are flexed

751
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: out of the Las Vegas game. It's now a four

752
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: oh five game next Sunday. Any other voting voting for

753
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl? Yes, voting for the Pro Bowl and

754
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: December fifteenth, So use the hashtag Pro Bowl vote. Yeah,

755
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: and either tag your favorite player or at least put

756
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: their last name in it to vote for them. Somehow

757
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: I sense the excitement of Patriots fans for Pro Bowl voting.

758
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: Isn't there this year? No? Yeah, I did see that.

759
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: Judon does is like the leader obviously for his position.

760
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, other than that, so you got Jude On,

761
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: who else? Marcus Jones, Mark Jones, probably Nick return Yeah,

762
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: he's going to be the All Pro returner, Yeah, just

763
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: like Gunner was, only he'll have earned it. Anyone else really,

764
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: maybe Nick Fole, Maybe I don't know. Running back right.

765
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Running back is tough for m Andre you know Nick Chubb. Yeah,

766
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good running backs. Yeah. Also um

767
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man in the year. Yeah, yeah, every guy.

768
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: So he's the nominee. And then they announced it around

769
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and there's a lot of things that go

770
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: into an organization. It's not just the film, all right,

771
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: we need to talk about the community. This was making

772
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: the transition from regular media to team media tough for you. Huh.

773
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: Just embrace it. The team is embraced. The ship is sinking.

774
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: We're talking about did you run into Koch was Nikovich

775
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: on your show today? I saw Nikovich running around and

776
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: was not he was coming running. For the first of all,

777
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: it's not my show, and he was not with us

778
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 1: and and your boys. Teddy Bruski's out there with some

779
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: some fee and kids. I don't know if they're having

780
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: a fee and day. I wonder if the feeing coach

781
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: was is named one of the coaches of the week,

782
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: because they're all here today. I think it's a year

783
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: the coach of the year is the Wakefield coach, but

784
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: Fien's coach may have been. I think Brian Pinnabell is

785
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: his name. He may have been the coach of the

786
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: week one. Yeah, one of these weeks. I didn't know

787
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: what was going on. Everybody, like everybody was invited back

788
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: old Patriots. I was talking to Tip this morning. Yeah yeah,

789
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: And of course the us Men got knocked out. But

790
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: there's hope for the future. That's what I'm here, is

791
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: this nineteen seventy six. Ye, there's hope for the future.

792
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: Did anyone go to any state championship games Friday Saturday? No,

793
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: I watched a little on TV, though I watched a

794
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: good portion of them. Yeah. One of my sons KP

795
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: champs again. No, they got crushed. Really yeah, they please

796
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: see him. It's not their fault. Okay. They have to

797
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: play the best team in the state in Division two,

798
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: which is ridiculous, that's all right. Saint John's Prep beat

799
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: Springfield Central, which is oh that's a big one. A

800
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: little bit of a little upset, a little bit of

801
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: an up set. And like I said, one of my

802
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: son's very best friends was the player of the game. Wow,

803
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: thirty seven carries for one hundred and thirty eight yards touchdown.

804
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: It's not a very good average. That he completely won

805
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: the game. It was one of those. He kept getting

806
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: three yards every play. It's like James Cook. And no,

807
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: he didn't get twenty eight like James Cook game. Um,

808
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: it was like three yards at a time first down, Yeah,

809
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: like three and they just grinded out the clock. But

810
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: it was kind of like that was the height of

811
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: like the rain early in the day. It was really

812
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: really sloppy. And I think the Springfield quarterback is a

813
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: kid named William Watson. They call him Pop. He's going

814
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: in Nebraska, real good, like dual threat guy. I think

815
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: he was really neutralized by the way I was looking

816
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: at the ticket scans and ticket scams. Over the course

817
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: of all the games, they had almost twenty thousand people.

818
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: That's awesome, come here, that's pretty cool. Yeah, great venue.

819
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: So he's gonna go play for Matt Rule, Yeah yeah, yeah,

820
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, there's I mean, there's a kid for

821
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: Saint John's Prep. It's going to Georgia John Elle Aguero. Um.

822
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to put that kid in the Tom

823
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: Brady category of everything goes right, but like it just

824
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: sounds like that kind of kid, Like he's got the nickname,

825
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: he's got the illiteration last name. It's just like he's

826
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: already set up to be that guy. Like you know,

827
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't haven't even seen him, but I'm sure I

828
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: know exactly what he looks like. Pop pop popos right

829
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: transferred to Colorado one one one final thing coming out

830
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: of the game on Thursday, And I guess this is

831
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: for you, dude. Any repercussions on the cloak that Bill

832
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: was wearing and for those for those of us he

833
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: has no time for you. Come on, let's get to

834
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: the over routes. Um no, I went over rout I

835
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: need to tell about uh. For those who don't know,

836
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Bill in the second half, we

837
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: just emerged in one of those giant player cloak. It

838
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: was like he was on the vikings. He wanted to

839
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: be the Walter Peyton manna, Like whoa if that wasn't

840
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: a just a microcose him of where they're at. I

841
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: know Bill put the cloak on. It was weird, it

842
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: was fun. Yeah, I don't know. It didn't help. I'm

843
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: not going to record that one though, but I did

844
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: put a picture of it in the in the database.

845
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: You're not going to repostity. No, I made a note

846
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: of it, made a note of it. But if anybody comes, so,

847
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: let me ask you in terms of the data base,

848
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: ye does does it get recorded when he starts the

849
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: game that way? Like it doesn't count like if he

850
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: puts it on later? Well, definitely, because he was wearing

851
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: something pregame, I think this week that was different. And

852
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: then he changed. Oh the only time he changed was

853
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: in the twenty fifteen AFC Championship in Denver. He went

854
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: from like a hot jacket to the sweatshirt. And that

855
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: was one that was like a whoa, whoa, whoa, what's

856
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: going on there? That the mortar kick game? Was it

857
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: the game he kicked off and over? No? No, this

858
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: is the playoff game they have not the coach of

859
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson. That's thea. Those are my greatest hits. That

860
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: was Miami, my twenty and fifteen greatest hits games. That

861
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: was the game he had Gronk in the in for

862
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: the two pointers. I just remember the fourth down play.

863
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: I forget about the rest of the game. It's very convenient.

864
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: I just thought I was rattled when I saw him

865
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: come out with the clothes. I didn't know what's going on.

866
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: It must have been cozy in there though. Yeah, all right,

867
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: so I guess we'll go to the phones. Um, we'll

868
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: start with Patty and Agawa. What's up Patty? Hey, what's up? Everyone?

869
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: So I called into the postgame show and my network

870
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: dropped the call or my service serience probably didn't because

871
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: I was pretty hammered. And um, I'm pretty sure I

872
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: was going to drop up an f bomber too. So,

873
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get a band from the

874
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: show Freddie right. So I'm glad, I'm glad. I'm glad.

875
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: You know the universe works mysterious ways. Um, big picture

876
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: question though for you guys. Um, and I'm bringing this

877
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: up because that uh friend of the show, mister Bart,

878
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: I can't I don't know if it was him or

879
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: my Cathlick talking on their show how Bill may see.

880
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia has a long term plan, he does, maybe

881
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to bring in a guy that's going

882
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: to come for a year or two. I mean, if

883
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: that's the case, and it's a big what it But

884
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: if that happened, any of you guys have any faith

885
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: that this offense is going to get better, even if

886
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: like they shore up the offense of blind because I

887
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: sure as hell don't well, I mean, okay, so let's

888
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: just say you believe that Patricia is not good right

889
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: now at what he's doing. Can he improve? I mean,

890
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: is it possible that he gets better doing this? I

891
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: mean you can't rule that out right. I mean I

892
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: think they're on a clock though. I mean, I don't

893
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: think they have time to sit around and hey, I

894
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: know it's terrible right now, but in six years, Like,

895
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't like, you got to play to this year.

896
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't, I don't I don't see it.

897
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't have any confidence in this. But one thing

898
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: that you said, Patty that did kind of you know,

899
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: resonate with me, is is Bill like after all the

900
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: years of you know, getting that brain drain, people leaving, Like,

901
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: is he getting tired of that? And like, yeah, I

902
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: do want somebody that I know is going to be

903
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: here for a few years. And you know, but this

904
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: is the problem with not promoting from within, right, Like,

905
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: this is the problem with not having a pipeline. And

906
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: I would also mentally has had the pipeline and the

907
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: pipelines dry now well, but this but that's his part

908
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: of his job is to continue to develop coaches. But

909
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: they've gone too fat. You know what I mean. You

910
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: can't like Josh was here for ten years. Yeah, I

911
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: mean I think to a degree, like, but then he

912
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: left everybody with them. But this is what Saban deals

913
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: with all the time too at Alabama, and basically at

914
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: Alabama it's a two year shelf life on an offensive coordinator.

915
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: It's Lane Kiffin to Sark to Billy Oh, you know

916
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: it's it's two years and he knows that. So what

917
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: they do is is they just passed the playbook from

918
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: coordinator to coordinator and everything kind of stays the same.

919
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: Each coordinator puts their own little spin on things because

920
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: that's what coaches do. But for the most part, the

921
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: base offense for Alabama hasn't changed since Lane Kiffin was

922
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: there in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen. So when you have

923
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: a defensive minded head coach that that you have to

924
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: be willing to work on offense like you have to

925
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: be willing to for the fact that offense is not

926
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: where your expertise is and you're going to have a

927
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: little bit of an evolving door there. And with Patricia,

928
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: I always go back. I love Batman, Christian Bale, love

929
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: that series, that whole trilogy, and there's a scene with

930
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: Bain right where Bain was like, I was born in

931
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 1: the darkness and you simply you were simply adopted. Yeah,

932
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia is adopting offense. He was not born in

933
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: offense right, Like he was not. That's not in his roots,

934
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: Like that's not in his makeup. He is a defensive

935
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: minded coach. Like can he get better? Yeah? I think

936
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: you're right, Fred in the margins, And honestly, do you

937
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: think he'll get discernibly better? I don't like anytime soon.

938
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I didn't ask you if

939
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: you very low bar to star. I asked you if

940
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: you thought he would I think he can. I think

941
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: he would if if if he was given the time,

942
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: he would get better. Okay, but what is the time,

943
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: Like you know, a couple seasons? Okay? Yeah, I mean yeah,

944
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: I think we'll get better if you give them three years.

945
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: We don't have three yea mac Jones will be gone

946
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: by now. Yeah. I was gonna say three seasons as

947
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: a long time. And I don't know how much patience.

948
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean, as you can see for mac Jones on

949
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: the sideline, I don't I don't know how much patience.

950
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: I think it takes time, and I think he would

951
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: get better. The question is that I don't think they're

952
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: gonna That's why I said before last game that there's

953
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: going to be a shake up on offense next year.

954
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: I think it's a different Yeah, I really, I really

955
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: hope so. Um And just to like sit on Eldred's

956
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: side of defense too. I mean, what would have been

957
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: the harm of having keeping Patricia as an offensive as

958
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: system to the sort of groom think Kayley from within

959
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: to be the play caller and eventually the offensive coordinator.

960
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, at least you wouldn't have to change systems.

961
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: You could have kept the same um yeah system. And

962
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: I wonder what the deal is with Kayley. What I

963
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: hope isn't the case, and we'll find out from Elder

964
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: Patty Patty, but what I hope isn't the case is

965
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: that they didn't do that because they felt like Kayley's

966
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: gonna leave. Like to me, I think Even's Alabama situation

967
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: I think illustrates it. You have to know that if

968
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: you if you pire people and put them in positions

969
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: to succeed, and they succeed, they're probably gonna leave Like

970
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: that to me, that shouldn't be a deterrent to do something,

971
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: and I've heard that too many times. I think it

972
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: might have been. I look at Buffalo and they had

973
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey right, and they they had Brian Dable, and

974
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: they had Ken Dorsey grooming or Brian Dable grooming Ken

975
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: Dorsey because they knew Briton Dable as a hell of

976
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: a good coach and he's gonna get and Sean McDermott's

977
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: a defensive coach, so they had the guy waiting to

978
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: take over for Brian Dable and it was Ken Dorsey.

979
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: And I just the Alabama example and with Patricia go

980
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: back to the summer when the word Billy used was

981
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: streamlining the offense, and now, more than ever, I believe

982
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: that they streamlined the offense because of the coaching staff,

983
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: not because of the players. I don't think the coaching

984
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: staff was capable of coaching a complex offense to that level.

985
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: So they pulled it back and they, I personally think

986
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: that water and that's why Ivan Fierce was here as

987
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: much as he was. He still someone had to teach

988
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: them he's still here, and Ivan Fiers, I think was

989
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: tasked with explaining to them what the you know what,

990
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: what carry over that they have And I'm not saying

991
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: that it's all the same as it used to be,

992
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: but it's not also entirely different, right, And I think

993
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: they watered it down for the coaches. And now it

994
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: gets to the point where they're on third down, they're

995
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: running the same play over and over again on third down,

996
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: and Kendrick Bourne's like, they know what we're doing on

997
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: third down, and we got to scheme it up better

998
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: because they're running the same play. And that was two

999
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: weeks after guys were overheard in the locker room saying

1000
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: the other team is calling out our place right. Uh,

1001
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: speaking of Eldred, he's on the phone. What's up, Eldred?

1002
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: Hey doing good? Hell? Hey, hey dude a little bit too.

1003
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna pick it. You wish you're still lead time? Ah,

1004
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: that's I'm just picking. It's tired of twelve and four.

1005
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: You know what, man, you know what, Man, I can

1006
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: ride that dude. It was in a wheelchair. You can

1007
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: do a chuchdown mad ride him that far. But nothing

1008
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: for that. But uh, on that post game, Deuce, I

1009
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: felt your frustration. Yeah, heard ya all the way. And

1010
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: y'all got mad at Kentry Borne and maybe Matt for

1011
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: acting out. But don't y'all know players do be crap

1012
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: from real stuff. Yeah you know, I don't. I mean,

1013
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't, So you know, you know you can't blame

1014
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: them again first rate, because one you're cutting off the money,

1015
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: you're cutting off the bonus, and then you know it's

1016
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: then not being productive. And I was definitely, like I

1017
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: said before, ass Kayley. Then Patricia called him plays because

1018
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: he's the this is the minded coach. Ain't no way

1019
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: he could pitch the offense like that. I'm sorry you

1020
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: just that way. But we also have no idea if

1021
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: Keyley can do it. We don't know, but I understand

1022
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: off you all down. Yeah, could be the worst. But

1023
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: why do you think that Bill didn't like all these

1024
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: people left with Josh? Why did Bill say no to Keyley?

1025
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: I guess is that he was under contract? Okay, so

1026
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: but he still said no to him, right, and the

1027
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: others weren't, so he had no choice, that's my girl.

1028
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: So you're saying he would have said no to the

1029
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: other that's my guess. I don't do I know? Do

1030
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: I know that? Nope? Okay, nope, I mean that could

1031
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: that makes sense. If that's the case, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,

1032
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: you know offense undermid Daniel, So it makes perfectly sense. Bill,

1033
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Do you like like everything else? He like his guy

1034
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: and like drafted. He like his guy. He see the

1035
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: athletic guys, interviewed them. You want to pick a cup

1036
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: of them, but you won't move up to get him.

1037
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: The next team gets didn't come back kickout. But every

1038
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: during time I came in for a visit, or he

1039
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: would like this guy like Jeff or we wanted Debo,

1040
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: he came in. If you don't see him, but if

1041
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: he seemed to kick out. But yeah, it's such a

1042
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: great point because, yeah, I think that we're all talking

1043
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: much about Patricia is something that I wanted to bring up.

1044
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 1: We're all talking so much about Patricia and the play

1045
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: calling and the offensive coordinator and all this kind of stuff.

1046
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: And I think that that's like the four, that's the trees.

1047
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: But the forest is that Buffalo's rosters is better than yours. Yeah,

1048
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: they're just a better team than you are. They have

1049
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: a better quarterback, they have better skill players, they have

1050
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: better defensive players. They are a better team than you are.

1051
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: And to some extent too. As much. I'm not trying

1052
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: to scape goat Patricia and say that he isn't actually bad, right,

1053
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: and it's it's personnel and all that kind of stuff,

1054
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: But I think we also need to hold the team

1055
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: accountable for their player personnel decisions and their player acquisition decisions.

1056
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: To Eldrick's point, you know they had in twenty nineteen.

1057
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: They have all these receivers in for visits. A J. Brown, Deebo,

1058
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: Samuel Terry McLaurin, you know, nikkil Harry, right, they have

1059
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: all these guys in for visits, and their decision is

1060
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: to draft Nikkiel, who's the worst out of all of

1061
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: them by a mile. Last year they drafted Cole Strange, okay,

1062
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: because they created a hole and they drafted a guard.

1063
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: And when they drafted him, I lost my marbles, all right,

1064
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: And I said, I said at the time, how does

1065
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: Cole Strange help you against Buffalo? Like, how does that?

1066
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: How does a guard from Chattanooga in the first round?

1067
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: How does that shrink the gap between you and Buffalo?

1068
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: How did it shrink the gap? On Thursday night? They didn't, right,

1069
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: And now Cole Strange has been benched twice in his

1070
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: rookie season. PFF I think has him seventy fourth among

1071
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: eighty three guards in their grading system right now, and

1072
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: the Patriots are in a position where they don't have

1073
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: any premium blue chip talent outside of like Matthew Judon

1074
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: and Romondre Stevenson. And I would also go to the

1075
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: second round with Taekwon Thornton. Now, maybe with Taekwon if

1076
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: they were willing to actually use him in a productive way,

1077
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: he would be a better player. But he's getting outperformed

1078
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: by people that were drafted after him too. So it's

1079
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: not just even as receivers, right, It's not just the

1080
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: in game coaching, It's not just the coordinating of the offense.

1081
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: The personnel decisions have been terrible for years as well. Yeah,

1082
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna piggyback on that a little bit, and I think,

1083
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, I totally agree. This is the thing we

1084
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: talk about. Why are they in this point where they

1085
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: I think bad drafting is the core of all of it.

1086
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: But I'm also at the point now where I feel

1087
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: like they're not developing players either. So like, as much

1088
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: as they're missing on the draft picks, they're also drafting

1089
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: some talented guys who are now going backwards. So I

1090
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: wonder where how are things meeting right now with this

1091
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: coaching staff and the schemes and everything, because you could

1092
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: bring I think you could bring in better coaching, and

1093
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: you might get more production. You might feel better about

1094
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: some of the players on this or I'm not saying

1095
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: that there's talented as Buffalo, but I just that's what's

1096
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: distressing to me. All the points are right, but guys

1097
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: like Dug or Barmore, Mac Jones, you know, everybody, Isaiah Win,

1098
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: I mean, Isaiah Win was a serviceable tackle and he's gone.

1099
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean he was hurt a lot, right and now

1100
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: now it's like he doesn't play all the time, and

1101
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: when he does play, he's kind of met. And that's

1102
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: one more point I make on this. This subject is

1103
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: just the overall talking to have an upstairs about this.

1104
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: Who wants to play on this team? Like and I know,

1105
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: and like it just doesn't seem like they are a

1106
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: team right now. You gotta do this every time we

1107
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: get each other worked up. He because he comes in

1108
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: all hot and bother about something whenever the first time

1109
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: in the week after the game, and we've both been

1110
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: sitting on our thoughts for like two days. This is

1111
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: that's like I think when I when I look at

1112
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: this Patriots team, like when I'm an outsider because I

1113
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: did not grow up a Patriots fan at all. It's

1114
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: like they, I think, pride themselves with great coaching and

1115
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: like Bill Belichick being such a great coach. And I'm

1116
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: not saying he's not a great coach now, but I

1117
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: think that now it's you're kind of seeing, like, Okay,

1118
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 1: all those guys left and went to Las Vegas. Bill

1119
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: Belichick is still here. He doesn't have the same coaching staff,

1120
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: but he also doesn't want to go out and like

1121
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 1: pay money for all these stars either because he feels

1122
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: like he can do it without them. But now you're

1123
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: reaching a point where you're like, Okay, I don't have

1124
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: the coach and I don't have the stars, and so

1125
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 1: which one is he going to try to do get

1126
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: better coaching or is he going to try to like

1127
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: get stars in the off season both? You got to

1128
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: figure out what about getting star coaches? We just we

1129
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: just not do things that that only you would do. Okay,

1130
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: that's the part that I love that, that's the part

1131
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: that I'm frustrated about the most wants to be different

1132
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia. Only Bill Belichick would make Matt Patrician offensive coordinator.

1133
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: Nobody else would do that. And the strange, only Bill

1134
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: Belichick draft Cole Strange in the first round. And what

1135
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: is the reaction to that? Like, there's so many, so

1136
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: many reactions to that would be like, oh, like even

1137
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft kind of said all that unorthodox, But he's

1138
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: been unorthodox in the past and had success, right, right,

1139
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: and so's And I'm not saying this move was met

1140
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: with a lot of skepticism by not just the media

1141
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: but by fans too. So I'm not saying that all

1142
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: fans thought would it, But there were a lot of

1143
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 1: people that were like, Oh, he's gonna make you guys

1144
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: look like idiots? Like why, Like why is that the goal?

1145
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: Shouldn't the goal just be let's have his productive an

1146
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: offense for our second year quarterback as we can he may,

1147
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: let's provide as much of a support system as we can.

1148
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: He makes it harder on himself almost on purpose, right,

1149
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 1: And I feel like that, I know it sounds stupid,

1150
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: it sounds, but I feel like he does that, yeah,

1151
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: because it's like if he had just like hired like

1152
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: Adam Gase just to use some random outside guy. That's

1153
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: where other teams would do, right, So if it works,

1154
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't get credit for that. I think he prides

1155
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: himself on like doing things his own way and not

1156
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: following the rest of the league. It's like the Rams

1157
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: go ahead, stack their team up, they win a super Bowl.

1158
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: The Bills when after von Miller and all the other

1159
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: guys that they have, it's like there, he just doesn't

1160
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: want to do that. I wonder how much of it

1161
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: is financial, Like if I think that's part of it.

1162
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: He has a budget that he needs to keep and

1163
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: they just spent what two hundred and seventy million the

1164
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: previous year in free agency because of all these issues

1165
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: that Evan and Mike just I do as a player personnel. Look,

1166
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: the caps a cap and I think his bogus, but

1167
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: you're still only gonna be able to when you with

1168
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: the cap space that they had in the off season.

1169
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: They had like one big move they could have made, right, Like,

1170
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,959
Speaker 1: they had one swing they could have made, and they're

1171
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: not going to do that with the money that they

1172
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: had just sent. Right that was from a coaching standpoint,

1173
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 1: I think Adam Gays is a great example, because Adam Gays,

1174
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: I think is coaching like high school football right now

1175
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: or something like that. Like and Bill was spoken very

1176
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: highly of him in the past, not just coach speak

1177
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: highly of him, but like, I think he would not

1178
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: have cost a lot of money to bring Adam Gayson.

1179
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: That's my point. Bill O'Brien would have cost him a

1180
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: lot of money. Adam Gas would not have cost him

1181
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: a lot of money. But I just it drives me

1182
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: nuts because then everybody looks at like Paul was to

1183
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: Paul's point, everybody says, oh, why why why does the

1184
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: media consensus board in the draft, Like why does that matter?

1185
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: Like who cares? Who cares what everybody in the media

1186
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: says about who should go in the first round? You know,

1187
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: he's Bill Belichick. He Okay, Well, if I was running

1188
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: their draft board, or if Mike was running their draft board,

1189
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: or if any mel Kiper was running their draft board,

1190
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: then Devin Lloyd would probably be a Patriot right now, right.

1191
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: And I would also say, not necessarily, like individual, not

1192
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: to break this into a draft thing, because I'm sure

1193
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: we'll get a lot of that when the off season

1194
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: gets here, But not necessarily talking specifically about individuals like

1195
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd as opposed to Cole Strength Walker by Christian Watson. Yeah,

1196
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: there were a lot of guys that were like, I

1197
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: was so excited for Oh my god, it's happening at time.

1198
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: If you if you look bad. Yes to the times

1199
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: when they sort of went unconventional at the draft, it

1200
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: almost it really doesn't work a lot like the times

1201
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: when they pick a guy that no one saw coming

1202
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: is it's always like like everybody says Kyle Dugger. No

1203
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: one thought Kyle Dugger's division two. That's exactly where Kyle

1204
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: Dugger was projected in that draft, yea early second round. Yeah,

1205
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: it's the guys that were projected like four rounds off

1206
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: from where you pick haven't really worked out. Like Tavon Wilson. Yeah,

1207
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,479
Speaker 1: I was just trying to think, you know, everybody like

1208
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: like everybody don't don't Cliff you, Sean McVay, I will

1209
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: never forget that, you know what. I and I don't

1210
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: know how you feel about the seven because we weren't

1211
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: on the shows together at the time. I think that

1212
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: he was laughing at himself because he really thought he

1213
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: was going to get that guy in the fourth round. Right,

1214
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: That's what I think he was laughing at, Like I

1215
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: think everybody looked at he was making fun of the Patriots. No,

1216
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: I think he was making fun of himself and less

1217
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: sneed he was making fun of the Patriots. See, this

1218
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: is what you deal with. Don't ever look in the mirror.

1219
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that he was making fun of the Patriots.

1220
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: Might get answers, but I do think on their board,

1221
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: they thought that he was going to be a third

1222
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: or fourth round and they were laughing at the Patriots

1223
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: for taking it off. I think they were laughing at

1224
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: him for thinking he was going to be there in

1225
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: the fourth round. Yeah. So now when you when you

1226
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: look at some of the things that happened in the offseason,

1227
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: would you have kept those guys on the offensive line

1228
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: so then you wouldn't have drafted Cole Strange and drafted

1229
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: a number one eye receiver instead. So they negotiated, and this, yes,

1230
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: to answer the question. In short, they they're negotiating with

1231
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: Ted Carriss was a joke. Okay. They lowered their offered

1232
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: at Ted Carriss like twenty minutes before he signed the

1233
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: contract with the Bengals. Yea, they lowered he came back

1234
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: with their offer, with the offer of the three for

1235
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: eighteen that he got from the Bengals the Patriots or

1236
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: initial offers three for fifteen. Ted came back to the

1237
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: Patriots and said, I got three from eighteen from Cincinnati.

1238
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: Can we I want to stay in New England, but

1239
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: can we bridge this gap? And they lowered the offer. Wow,

1240
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: where'd you hear that? Can't tell you when he was

1241
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: a big JJ. That was just a lowercase Jay. They

1242
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: lowered the offer, and so what not the first person

1243
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: they've done that with too, Shack Mason, but Andrews shack Mason.

1244
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: I think you can make the case that at ten

1245
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars for shack Mason performance relative

1246
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 1: to contract, maybe not the best deal in the world.

1247
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: But if they had somebody like Ted Carriss here who

1248
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: could have started this season and they didn't have to

1249
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: use either use a first trum pick on Cole Strange

1250
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: or throw him out to the Wolves in his rookie

1251
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: season and they could have broken him in a little bit,

1252
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: would it be better. Absolutely would be better. I think

1253
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: that big mistake was they franchise Tuney instead of just

1254
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: extend him and overpay him a little bit, but just

1255
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: keep him. He's he can play like four positions. My

1256
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: whole thing to me where I differ with the Patriots

1257
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: is I don't care like winning the contract. Like Evan

1258
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: just said, you know, maybe you can make an argument

1259
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: ten whatever million not commensurate with you, but you know,

1260
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: and you just said, like the franchise, Like, to me,

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Speaker 1: the only the only factor should be is this guy

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Speaker 1: my terms, not for that he needs to do it

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Speaker 1: for this, Like why is that to be? And I'm

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Speaker 1: you know whatever? The what was it fourteen million? What

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Speaker 1: It comes in and hits him on top the head

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Speaker 1: Buffalo untouched right in the middle. Fourth touchdown rushing for

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01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary. They have the last four games for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just the way this game was gone, you

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: know eventually the damn's gonna break. I don't how much

1472
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: more you can hold him at seventeen offense can't do

1473
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: anything but three and punt, and the Patriots, looking at

1474
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: a third and fifteen backed up to their thirty eight

1475
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: high staff is back to Jones. A deep drop stands

1476
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: in throw us at left underneath pop By Myers and

1477
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: the flat. He dives ahead of the forty seven yard

1478
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: lives four England and the Patrebos were punk welcome. There's

1479
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 1: some white flag waiver right, white flag waver fans Huffala

1480
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: loves it. Look at them when Patriot fans are booing

1481
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: the Bills fans and there are a lot of them

1482
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: here today. That's the stake because it's down below our booth.

1483
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 1: Happened with what they're seeing. They've won four of the

1484
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: last five. Jones takes the snap first and ten from

1485
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: the forty nine mac. Pressured from our ride's being chased,

1486
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,799
Speaker 1: he backs up. He circles back the wonder said Jones.

1487
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: Jill on the run. A woman not blocking that defends

1488
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: Jones throws at your side, dropped by Bourn. Matt. Jones

1489
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,879
Speaker 1: look circling all around the field and pursue Jordan Phillips

1490
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 1: coming back across the field pass the five standard oweo.

1491
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: Jones gets it to Bourne, who drops it. Is this

1492
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: an offensive line drill where you stand there and watch

1493
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: your quarterback run around and not block anybody, But he's

1494
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: trying to keep a play alive. I've never seen anything

1495
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: like it. You got a chance to take your left

1496
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 1: shoulder and stick it in his chest. Hits somebody get angry.

1497
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: Third down staff looming from the patriot forty seven yard

1498
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 1: line again Victory formation, Alan takes the knee and that's it.

1499
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 1: The Patriots indeed drop a second straight Thursday Night affair.

1500
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: They falled in six and six. The Buffalo Bills improved

1501
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,480
Speaker 1: to nine and three. They can coninue their recent dominance

1502
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: of a division rival. The one's reigned not only over

1503
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: the AFC East, but especially repeatedly the Buffalo Bills. The

1504
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: Pats had won thirty five of forty. Buffalo has now

1505
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: won five of six. Although Bills try to continue on

1506
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: to upward trajectory toward the postseason, the Patriots now have

1507
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: five games left try to fight their way into postseason contention.

1508
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: You know what, We're in the holiday season, and you

1509
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: know who's ready for the holidays? FedEx. They are ready

1510
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: for the holidays, Wilson. That's it. That's the read. I

1511
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: hope they are. I hope they took the time that

1512
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: they saved writing the copy for this read and the

1513
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: spending at delivering packages. But FedEx is ready for the holidays.

1514
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: They didn't just say like, hey, just let everybody know.

1515
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:09,440
Speaker 1: So let me take a poll Christmas gifts. What percentage

1516
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: are you doing it online? For us actually going to

1517
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:16,759
Speaker 1: a store and buy who I'd say probably online online?

1518
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 1: Dred percent for evan to marrow. Uh, this conversation is

1519
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: very debatable for me because it's my birthday and I

1520
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: hate buying people gifts on my birthday. Oh okay, Christmas

1521
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: is your birthday? Yes, it is so miserable. Nobody else

1522
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: in this room has to buy gifts for someone on

1523
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: their body. Throw the birthday out of it. I just

1524
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: hate I would I'd rather just sign a thing of like,

1525
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: all right, no one has to get me any gifts,

1526
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: and I'm not getting anybody gifts and we're all good.

1527
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: Like I would just make that deal with the world,

1528
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: but I'm sure kids would wrenches. My wife had a

1529
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: thing where okay, we're all gonna pick each other's names

1530
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: out of a hat, and whoever's name you pick that's

1531
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: who you buy the gifts for. And my son was like,

1532
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: that ain't happening because he knows he would get he'd

1533
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: get like his grandmother. You know. But back to your question,

1534
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: online only the store is just anxiety now, Pauline. Yeah,

1535
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: but that's just out of laziness. Yeah, I'll probably do

1536
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: about eight online. It's better too because then sorry FedEx,

1537
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 1: but like then you don't have to go make that

1538
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: extra stop and go pick it up because now you

1539
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: can like check the box like it's gift to put

1540
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: a gift note inside. Some places even like will wrap

1541
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: it for you. Yeah, it's just perfect. Yeah. I don't

1542
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: like having to wrap stuff. But that's the only part

1543
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't like is a stickler that everything has to

1544
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: be wrapped, count putting it in a bag. Yeah, what

1545
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: about gift back with the tissue paper. I try to

1546
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: get away with that, Samarrow, you could, you could probably

1547
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: do that, but like we were talking, you know, in

1548
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: the break about stocking stuffers and whatnot, and you know,

1549
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: I always get her like some gift cards and things

1550
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: like that they have to be wrapped. What she knows

1551
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: what they are, even the gift card. Yeah, she's insane.

1552
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: I think my mother in law wraps presents like she

1553
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 1: doesn't want you to open them. That's how tight they are.

1554
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: Like it's like I need scissors, Like you can't get

1555
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: you can't get into it with your bare hands. That's

1556
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: how that's how sealed up it is. I'm the vice

1557
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 1: president of the trash bag when opening presents right right away,

1558
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: right away. Right. Don't you hate that? You know? You know,

1559
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: Rich Rich like hits me no matter where I am.

1560
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: He hits me right in the temple every time. But

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01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that because, oh, you get it all

1562
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: done right away so that you don't have to pick

1563
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: it up, really crush it, so you maximize your space.

1564
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm now you got the dog, so like you know,

1565
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: they can't leave the crapper on the floor because it's

1566
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: the dog will eat it. I got it. It's been

1567
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: better in recent years as the nephews have gotten a

1568
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: little older, we've Rich and I have sort of passed

1569
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: that along. Yeah, so they handle all that and now

1570
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: Rich hits his son in the temple with the with

1571
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: the chronicled up wrapping paper. I like that job too.

1572
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: It gives me, it gives me purpose. Yeah, we're not

1573
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 1: even gonna have to clean up. I'm doing it all

1574
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: right now A welcome. Yeah, all right. Five five past

1575
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: five hundred is the ACE ticket outline web radio at

1576
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: Patrice dot com. We got some callers that have been

1577
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: holding on. Thank you. Let's go to Willem. Fella, what's up?

1578
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: Will they thank you? Fred? Before I go back to work?

1579
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: Thank you? All right, I'm just gonna get strin First

1580
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: of all, they dude, how did this feel? Uh? Three

1581
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 1: four years now? Time didn't you say? Uh, I'm trying

1582
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 1: to coach the work that you said at this time?

1583
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: It was gonna poor Mike, it'd be fun. I think

1584
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: it'll be fun. I've had a lot of people they're

1585
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: still mad that I thought it would be fun. I

1586
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: gotta get them. I gotta get But I got acause

1587
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: he was like I want to put I remember what

1588
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: he's saying. It's like, I'm ready to try something. Move now.

1589
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 1: I'm ready to move on on it. It was gonna

1590
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: something like that too. Yeah. I wish it could have

1591
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 1: lasted forever. I do. I do wish it could have lasted.

1592
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 1: That tweet didn't last long. Is it working out for you, Mike?

1593
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: How was it working out for all of us not well, right,

1594
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean what I mean, if I could have hit

1595
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 1: pause in twenty eight for me and Fred, we didn't

1596
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: want to pull the famous quote for for duces. I

1597
01:20:54,280 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: am so tired of twelve and four. We suck, we've stagnated.

1598
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: Oh I got you see. That's what happens coming me boy,

1599
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: And that's this is what um, this is what all

1600
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: of y'all at the fame even though Mry, I know

1601
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 1: you new to this no with the team and all

1602
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: and everything though, but I'm gonna go switch you in

1603
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: anyway because you wouldn't okay, even age too on half

1604
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 1: of that. So why haven't okay you called out man?

1605
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: Y'all call out man for Church. You've called out anybody

1606
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: but the main front running death running the whole show.

1607
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: Y'all never call him out, either of you, Evan, even

1608
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: when you add the YouTube thing when you and Alex

1609
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: we're doing, y'all never called him called out Bill? Why

1610
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: did you listen to the first hour of the show. Wow,

1611
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: took you wrong enough? Right? I mean, I think we

1612
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: gave him the benefits of that man. But here's the thing,

1613
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: and I hear what you're saying, William, I all right,

1614
01:21:55,160 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: I believe William has some things to say. Okay, go ahead, yeah, remember, Paul,

1615
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: you won't me have a d M when you learn

1616
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: how to argue. I got more right now, yes, okay,

1617
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: doing well? Okay, So I'm saying, nice, How long how

1618
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: long you have y'all seen Bill mess up the rough?

1619
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: But how long have you seen them mess up the draft?

1620
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: When you could have got Justin Herbert? You didn't want?

1621
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: When when could they have gotten Justin Herbert? First of all, wait, wait, wait, wait,

1622
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: wait wait wait, tell me how they could have drafted

1623
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. I don't disagree with your general point, but

1624
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: make it right. Please up and oh yeah, so they're

1625
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 1: supposed to trade up what Justin Herbert's draft was? Yeah, okay, yeah,

1626
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 1: fifteen picks to trade up for Justin Herbert? You got it,

1627
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,560
Speaker 1: you got it? Okay, keep going, Okay, Okay, that was

1628
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: good for you, Paul. It's good arguing. Yeah, but I

1629
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: kind of agree with em. And then I think Justin

1630
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: Herbert was a little out of I've also watched Bill

1631
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: be one of the great coaches of all time for

1632
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: a long time too, and I can't think of who

1633
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: I would rather have instead. Of him. Okay, okay, Fred,

1634
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: let me get you push back. Okay, I get it, y'all.

1635
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: All I'm saying, and I agree with you. He's a grist,

1636
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 1: I guess, the brest coach of a time. But look

1637
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: at what's going on for the past three four years. Man,

1638
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: you can't destes mans to be argued at this point. Man,

1639
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: don't don't stick people bows. Ain't gonna hold up weight

1640
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: man at this point? Yeah, you know, I mean, how

1641
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: long you don't think anybody's defending he's the greatest. He's

1642
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: the greatest coach at all time. Look at the rocks,

1643
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: the ladies and gentlemen. Look at the time, the offensive coortineers.

1644
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 1: Look at what he's doing. He's still hockey foot Man

1645
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: didn't say he does with best for his team. Really

1646
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: look at it. Look at his because because joint practices,

1647
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: because the off seasons, the weapons. Look at it. Yeah,

1648
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: I say, listen, you know it's it's a results oriented

1649
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 1: business and right now he's not getting the results. There's

1650
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I mean, what can you say?

1651
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: And he said it himself. I'm in charge. I put

1652
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: it on me, right, So I understand that, Fred, But

1653
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: pictures on Philter nick y'all never called him out. I

1654
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I think we spend a lot of times times.

1655
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: A lot of people in my mentions would disagree. So so, William,

1656
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: let me let me ask you a question. Are you called?

1657
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 1: Are you calling for the firing of Bill Belichick? No,

1658
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't do What are we doing so close? Okay?

1659
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna

1660
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 1: tell you what. I'm gonna say, what I think won't

1661
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: happened just because he wants his BIA. Okay, all right,

1662
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you off the front. Go. I don't

1663
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: hope mister Craft with his air Force one is right

1664
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: every day. I hope he just put things in check

1665
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: with him now if Bill don't want to roll with it, basically, yeah, okay, okay,

1666
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna get your wish. But yeah, yeah,

1667
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: I also think that all ee in the room, I

1668
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 1: think that's what's gonna happen with with that, Like I

1669
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,560
Speaker 1: think everyone in the room is there. Yeah, we get

1670
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: I think most people, most rational people, gave Bill a

1671
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 1: couple of years to rebuild the team, and now that

1672
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 1: the team is not where where it needs to be,

1673
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: where he's started starting to get plenty of pushback from us,

1674
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 1: from everybody else in the media or around here. I

1675
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 1: don't know what else we're supposed to say. That's why

1676
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 1: I love y'all. I listen to yall. All right, all right, thanks,

1677
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: thanks William, Thanks William. I hope that police were up

1678
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 1: to him throwing off against the cruiser or something. They

1679
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: could have had justice rubber. But listen, I hear what

1680
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: he's saying, and like we were talking about it at

1681
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, and maybe even before the

1682
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: show started. You know, definitely, the human cry is negative

1683
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 1: toward Bill these days. You don't hear the Belichick people

1684
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: these and maybe they're just being quiet and there, you know,

1685
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: because they don't have much to say right now. But

1686
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 1: the tide is turned and h but the thing is, like,

1687
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 1: are you calling for him to be fired? Well, no,

1688
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: I just want to think it's funny that it took

1689
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: him hiring a defensive coordinator as the offensive coordinator for

1690
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: people to family say I'm not sure you're doing the

1691
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: right thing. I just you know, it's so like they

1692
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: were saying it on the blog, you know, Bubba, you

1693
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: know when I said, Okay, who do you want Sean

1694
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: You know, Sean Payton's name gets really you know, first

1695
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: of all, I think the Saints still have his rights, right,

1696
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: so you have to go shape with them and give

1697
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: them something in order to get him. And if you

1698
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 1: believe he's the guy, you do that, you give up

1699
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 1: a first round pick for. I'm just surprised that you're

1700
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: a lukewarm on I'm a little bit lukewarm on him.

1701
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: I would take him, yeah, yeah, why offensive guys? Yeah,

1702
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: one of the best offensive coaches in the league. Yeah,

1703
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: I would take him. What's he one without Drew Brees?

1704
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean nothing, but like what you need

1705
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: to find a way to help your quarter? What did

1706
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: Drew Brees win without him? Yeah? I know. It's so

1707
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 1: so Sean Payton. Just when you thought I was gonna

1708
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: zing who else? Who else? I don't, I don't. I mean,

1709
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: this isn't about the head coach. It's not. Oh not,

1710
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: I'm not not either, But I just I bristle at

1711
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 1: the who would you rather have? I don't really know

1712
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: all the principles available. And if I think my head

1713
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 1: coach isn't getting the job done, I need to move on. Yeah,

1714
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 1: but they're all imperfect. So I'll take the best one

1715
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,560
Speaker 1: that's imperfect, and that's Bill Belichick. I still think the

1716
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: biggest thing to me, to me is what we were

1717
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: talking about a break. It's accountability. Okay, it's somebody and

1718
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: I think that to a degree, And maybe this is

1719
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: why some of their personnel moves for a couple of

1720
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 1: years there were a little bit different. I do think

1721
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: from what I had heard that that Dave Ziegler was

1722
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 1: able to push back a little bit on Bill and

1723
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: the draft from in that twenty twenty draft, and that

1724
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: that draft ended up working out pretty well. But I

1725
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 1: heard the last two years we drafted better. I mean

1726
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: twenty one draft. Excuse me, everybody likes the last two drafts.

1727
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about this last. I'm not sure about

1728
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, well, strange will be fine, be okay, Well,

1729
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: if they all do things that they haven't done yet,

1730
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: the draft will be good. Yeah, you're right, But racist

1731
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: Jones is good. I think it's accountable right, Like he

1732
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: at this point, he's allowed to just do whatever he

1733
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: wants and get away with it. Yeah, and the only

1734
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: person because he's the the tzar of football here, there's

1735
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: nobody above him, and football. And look, I think Macro

1736
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,719
Speaker 1: is a has a bright football mind when it comes

1737
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: to scouting. That guy ain't standing up to Bill. I

1738
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 1: can just tell you right now that guy is not

1739
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 1: gonna go up to Bill. And just look at it.

1740
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,679
Speaker 1: Look at it, Like from Afar, this is the son

1741
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 1: of one of his former coaches, right that he coached

1742
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: with Froll. How is he in the league. Yeah, it's

1743
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: just his person. He Alway job too. Yeah, Like I'm

1744
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 1: not telling you that he can't stand up to him,

1745
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: but empirically you look from Afar the circumstantial evidence. Do

1746
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: you think the son of al Grow, who's got his

1747
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: job because of your connection to Bill Belichick from al

1748
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: Grow is going to be the guy that's saying no, no, no, no, no,

1749
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 1: cold Strange, we need to draft. Yeah, I don't know.

1750
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening. I don't know. I don't

1751
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,560
Speaker 1: know the answer to that. The only guy that he

1752
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: got Elliott Wolf, I don't know what his Wolf was

1753
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: yelling at everybody. The only guy made. I don't blame him.

1754
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,919
Speaker 1: The only guy that I think can hold him accountable

1755
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 1: is mister Kraft, Like he's the only guy that can

1756
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: that can say, hey, the only buddy person above you

1757
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: in this organization, is That's true, right, And he's the

1758
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: only one. Like I feel like mister Kraft has to

1759
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: be our savior at this point, right, like, can you

1760
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: like please like like give us something, you know, speak

1761
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: for us, right, speak for the fans, speak for the

1762
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: people that care about this team. But because he just

1763
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 1: does what But the only thing I want my owner doing,

1764
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 1: and I don't care what sport it is, is to

1765
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 1: tell my head guy do better. I don't want him

1766
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: telling what to do because that's not his area of expertise.

1767
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:53,600
Speaker 1: And then holding accountable, you know, do better, and you know,

1768
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 1: give him parameters if you don't do better by this

1769
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 1: point or whatever. But that's really all in my opinion,

1770
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: and owners should be do is holding people accountable. If

1771
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: your Mike's not on, it was on. Sorry. Um So

1772
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: what if, for example, he says do better, but Bill's like,

1773
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: what I'm doing is better, like and he doesn't want

1774
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: to change anything, you know? Then what if he wants

1775
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 1: to give Patricia another year? What if he's like, Okay,

1776
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 1: we tried it, but I think one more year would work. Yeah,

1777
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: like that, then you cut ties? Yeah, I mean, Evin

1778
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 1: said the word accountability. And I think something that's frustrating

1779
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 1: for fans like me is that there's not a lot

1780
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 1: of accountability based on the product we've seen over the

1781
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: last three years, how the seasons have followed similar trajectories.

1782
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 1: What does accountable What does accountability look like? I think

1783
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 1: it's going pretty good. Like that's not that's I'll give

1784
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 1: you an example, Okay. And I'm not telling like you

1785
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 1: know me, I'm not a big advocate of like this

1786
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 1: guy needs to be fired, that guy needs to be fired, right,

1787
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 1: losing job, just like I'm not a hot day. But

1788
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 1: in terms of what Mike just talked about accountability, have

1789
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: you ever seen a team for a whole year have

1790
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: special teams as bad as the Patriots did last year?

1791
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: And they continue? Right? Yeah? I mean, how many punts

1792
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 1: do we have blocked last year? Three? Right? And I

1793
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: had a field goal blocked, I believe too. Uh. And

1794
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 1: and you know, returns were you know, not not returns

1795
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 1: for touchdowns but returned the journing game was a problem.

1796
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Their special teams were abysmal last year and nothing changed.

1797
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: And now Bill's been here for twenty you know, head

1798
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: coach for twenty two years, and I don't know the

1799
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 1: answer to this during a season. Has he ever fired

1800
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: a coach or demoted a coach during during a season?

1801
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: But they've moved on from coaches, Oh yeah after the season.

1802
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: Who is the last one I can think of that

1803
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: they they moved on, but I can think of different

1804
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 1: like Dean Peas all of a sudden was gone as

1805
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 1: when it was defensive. Yeah, but like the fact that

1806
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 1: and again I'm not saying like poor cam cam Accord,

1807
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: like I don't know if he's a great coach or not,

1808
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 1: but like I don't think you can form any worse

1809
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: than that. Like maybe green Bay. Green Bay's special teams

1810
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: were pretty bad last year ultimately cost them the season.

1811
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 1: They moved on, they got a new guy. But but

1812
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 1: like I want to make this point right on top

1813
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 1: of years, is like everyone is terrified right now. The

1814
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: Bill's just going to say, no, we like what's going on,

1815
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 1: We're to bring them back. And I want to get

1816
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: to Bill's quote this swarning because Evan and I were

1817
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 1: in the press conference. Um, but Fred, when you said, like,

1818
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: do you think the owners should never tell the coach

1819
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: what to do? Yeah, Like, like football, I don't want

1820
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: to meddling but I wanted, and I told like I

1821
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: would largely agree with that one hundred percent. I think

1822
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: the best owners allowed the people that they hired to

1823
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: do their jobs, and then if they don't do it,

1824
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 1: you get rid of them. But what I would ask is,

1825
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: would you consider if if Robert had a talk with Bill,

1826
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 1: you know, middle of January, assuming that they're done, and

1827
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 1: said this didn't work. The way we had it set

1828
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 1: up on offense didn't work. The players aren't happy, the

1829
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: fans are not happy. We need to do something different.

1830
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 1: Is that telling him what to do? No? Okay, I agree, No,

1831
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: I agree. I think he'd be well within his rights

1832
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 1: to have that conversation with Bill. This is and then

1833
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 1: it'll be up to Bill to say, I'm not letting

1834
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 1: this guy tell me I need to make changes to

1835
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 1: my coaching staff. And then you well, my first I

1836
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: don't think he would leave. I think he would say okay,

1837
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: my initial my initial conversation would be okay, over the

1838
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: last two years, are you happy with how things have

1839
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: turned out? If if if Bill says yeah, okay, we

1840
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 1: got a problem. If he says yeah, I'm as unhappy

1841
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 1: as you are. Robert. My second question is what are

1842
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 1: you going to do about it? I give him a chance, Yeah,

1843
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't ye, And then I listen, what are you

1844
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:41,719
Speaker 1: going to do about I don't give him a chance?

1845
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,799
Speaker 1: And if he said and if and if he says

1846
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 1: and if he says, well we're just gonna keep, then

1847
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 1: I got a problem. Yeah, but tell me what you're

1848
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 1: gonna I feel like we had that conversation two years

1849
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: ago though, like before the Mac draft, like you know,

1850
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: like that's when it felt like the come to Jesus

1851
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: moment of hey, that's what Evan's talking about with Ziegler

1852
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,839
Speaker 1: maybe had a little say, had a little backbone connected

1853
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,640
Speaker 1: to this draft, which I agree this draft was not

1854
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: what they needed right now. I mean, this is this

1855
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 1: draft is looking like this is exactly what you didn't

1856
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: need at this point in the quarter. Right now, this

1857
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: draft is draft is average at best. I don't like

1858
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 1: determining what a draft is, you know, thirteen weeks into

1859
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 1: guys NFL careers. But we had no problem doing that.

1860
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 1: Last year. Everybody said what a home run the draft was.

1861
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: And last year was mac Stevenson and Barmore And last

1862
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 1: year what do they do? They drafted two guys from

1863
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: Alabama and two guys from Oklahoma and this year they

1864
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 1: and they went three for four. Can we shop at like,

1865
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: can we get some name brand play like players, Like

1866
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: can we can we draft guys from the SEC? Like

1867
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 1: can we draft guys from that that played big time

1868
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 1: college football? Not Chattanooga? Not no offense to Baylor. I

1869
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 1: know they're in the Big twelve, which doesn't play defense.

1870
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: So when Taekwon Thornton's out there and running through guys

1871
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 1: at four, two, eight and at in the Big twelve,

1872
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: what difference does it make? Right? And this is this

1873
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: is what I get back to with the you know,

1874
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: giving him a chance to say this is what I'm

1875
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 1: gonna do about it? No, no no, no, no no. If mac

1876
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: Jones played last year as a rookie the way he's

1877
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: played this year and Barmore got hurt the way he

1878
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 1: did this year and hasn't really played, how would you

1879
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,799
Speaker 1: look at last year's draft. Yeah, but everybody just decided,

1880
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, because these guys had success. Immediately the home

1881
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 1: run on that draft home run, well, let's see, right,

1882
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 1: And once that became the narrative, you had to stick

1883
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: to it because he's your quarterback now. And now you're

1884
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 1: like invested. Let's see how they say the same thing

1885
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,560
Speaker 1: about this year's draft too, exactly exactly. I don't like

1886
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:36,560
Speaker 1: making determinations thirteen games into a guy's career that the

1887
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 1: guy can play or not. Ronnie Perkins last year he

1888
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: didn't play. This year hasn't played. I don't know, like

1889
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 1: we've never seen him. It's the thought like I could

1890
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 1: be convinced even though I didn't want Cold Strange, I

1891
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: probably wanted Lloyd. I wanted a faster linebacker. But you

1892
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: can convince me those first two picks, may you could

1893
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, the logic, we need help on the offensive line, okay,

1894
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 1: and we want to add speed to our offense, and

1895
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 1: so you can the logic was there. It's like, maybe

1896
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 1: they didn't pick the right guy, but the logic was there.

1897
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 1: Same thing with free agency there and the drafted to

1898
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: kill Harry too. They had a need at receiver, right,

1899
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: but they didn't there There was more logic about that

1900
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,560
Speaker 1: than drafting the guard in the first round. We're just

1901
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 1: getting to the point of third guard in the first round,

1902
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 1: where we're getting to the point where the fact that

1903
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 1: they're drafting the wrong players year after year after year

1904
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: has there has to be some accountability for that. Yeah,

1905
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 1: there has to be a point in time where we

1906
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 1: say why is this key? Pat Robert said it at

1907
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 1: the owners meetings that our drafts have not been good enough.

1908
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: And I would not sit there and say to to Belichick,

1909
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 1: like you have to hire Bill O'Brien, like you have

1910
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 1: to hire no that that would be telling him what

1911
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 1: to do, right. I would say to him, you need

1912
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 1: to hire an offensive coordinator that has a history of

1913
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 1: coaching offense, right, Like you need to hire a real

1914
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator next year. Yeah, that would be item number

1915
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 1: one on the list. Like that, You not what are

1916
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: offensive coaches period? Like everybody's I think stretched too thin.

1917
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it too. You need to

1918
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: hire a real offensive coordinator. I would love for them

1919
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: to hire a real offensive line coach as well. And

1920
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: the other thing that I would honestly say to him

1921
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 1: at this point, too, is the name of the game

1922
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: at receiver has changed. Like you cannot go about the

1923
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver position anymore, the way that they want to

1924
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: go about and shop shopping at the dollar store, like

1925
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:35,679
Speaker 1: making acquisitions for Davante Parker, Like the game has changed,

1926
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 1: Like the trades that are helping teams are A J. Brown,

1927
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: Tyree Hill, you know, Stefan Digs a couple of years

1928
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 1: ago to Buffalo, DeAndre Hopkins who they'll play on Sunday,

1929
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 1: to Arizona. Like these are the trades that have moved

1930
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 1: the needles for Teach. By the way, speaking of free agents,

1931
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams over the weekend is I mean, he's really

1932
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 1: clicking now we have to deal with him. He makes

1933
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 1: me nervous. And I was talking to someone earlier, I'm like,

1934
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:03,640
Speaker 1: I can just picture John Jones on him, just like

1935
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 1: Justin Deperson pulling, trying to pull him down by the face,

1936
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 1: man concerned. I mean we saw in Vegas. I mean

1937
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 1: we've already we've already gotten a glimpse of it. I mean,

1938
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 1: for me, it was it was Jalen Mills, which one

1939
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: wrap up the sideline was like they were they were

1940
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 1: side by side and then all of a sudden, Adams

1941
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 1: just put the hammer down and was like bye bye, Joe.

1942
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean right over. Plus, I mean the Raiders are

1943
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: starting to play a little bit better defensively, which their

1944
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: defense has been like historically bad all year. All of

1945
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 1: a sudden, your boys, Chandler, Chandler three sacks the other day. Um,

1946
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 1: and they're supposed to be getting Renfro and Waller back,

1947
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 1: who are eligible. They have refused with that now and

1948
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: they have a cupcake Thursday. I mean Thursday night. Road

1949
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 1: games are never cupcakes. But Vegas to La isn't exactly. Uh,

1950
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, they should beat the Rams if they if

1951
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:53,599
Speaker 1: they beat the Rams, Patriots if they If they beat

1952
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 1: the Rams, they have a chance to pass you the

1953
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 1: following week, regardless of what the Patriots. I just don't

1954
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 1: think it's a coincidence either. And look, I think the

1955
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 1: Davante Adams situation is really particular because he wanted to

1956
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 1: play with Derek Carr. So that's like, you know, one thing.

1957
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 1: But Ziegler and McDaniels finally get get away from the

1958
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: nest here in New England and the first move they

1959
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 1: make is to go trade for high. It's not that

1960
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 1: it makes you feel better, like I don't want to

1961
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 1: like turn the Patriots into the Red Sox and like, oh,

1962
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,719
Speaker 1: it's great that you're you're in on all these guys,

1963
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: But did you hear the Patriots name with a J.

1964
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 1: Brown or DeAndre Hopkins or Davante Adams, Like I'd never

1965
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 1: like heard any like they had a J. Brown for

1966
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 1: a rookie visit here that was no. I mean, I mean,

1967
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 1: when the time, why why is it that their names

1968
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 1: aren't because I don't think they look at it. I

1969
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 1: think they think everybody else is dumb for overpaying the receivers.

1970
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:49,560
Speaker 1: I think that too. I think they look at it

1971
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 1: and they say, that's not how you actually build a

1972
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 1: football team. That might be how you build it in

1973
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 1: Madden or Fantasy football. But things have changed. But I

1974
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 1: agree with Ed. I don't think I think that they

1975
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 1: believe changed that the Agalore is the Bourns, the Parkers

1976
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 1: of the world is a better investment than pained Tyree

1977
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 1: killed thirty million dollars and it's just like, you know,

1978
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 1: the quarterback is even changing. I mean like, I don't

1979
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: even think that they would ever. I could not foresee

1980
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 1: them drafting adjustin fields like someone mobile, Oh see that one.

1981
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,799
Speaker 1: I couldn't see it. I think they were strongly interested

1982
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 1: in Lamar Jackson. I think they really really kicked the

1983
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 1: tires on Lamar Jackson. I don't think that they closed

1984
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:30,560
Speaker 1: the door on that. But now the problem would be

1985
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:32,560
Speaker 1: are they willing to give that kind of guy like

1986
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty million guaranteed, which was what Baltimore's

1987
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 1: dilemma is, right right, Yeah, they don't know if they

1988
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 1: want to do that now that I don't know. And

1989
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: if you get one of these quarterbacks that demands top dollars,

1990
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 1: they were lucky that they you and I don't think

1991
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: Brady gave a lot back to the table. But Brady

1992
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: didn't demand to be the highest paid guy. He could

1993
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 1: have asked and he could he could, he could have

1994
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:53,600
Speaker 1: He and Peyton could have been at the top of

1995
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 1: the list every year, and Brady it wasn't important to

1996
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: him to be at the top of the list. And

1997
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 1: they were fortunate with that. I allowed all the other

1998
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 1: salaries to drop under his lively conversation. People calling, emailing.

1999
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:08,640
Speaker 1: I want to get to some of the emails, but

2000
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 1: let's unstack the phones here, Christians in Boston, what's up,

2001
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 1: Chris with A T, I, A N. Hey, A lot

2002
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 1: of hatefill um, you can add me to the list.

2003
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 1: I think it's time to move on. Wow. And I

2004
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 1: just spent a batter part of the whole row listening

2005
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 1: to you rattle off the litany of reason, and they're

2006
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 1: all down. I mean, this is a third year in

2007
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: a row that you get embarrassed from trimetime by the

2008
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 1: same team and you don't have an answer to And Fred,

2009
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned in the post game show that in the

2010
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 1: chat a lot of people stay of the crash thing. Yep,

2011
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 1: what do they think? They got a company that's worth

2012
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 1: five billion dollars? I want to go, I think you're

2013
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: worth five billion dollars and you can't get a phone there? Right?

2014
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 1: Are you calling from Ukraine? Where are you calling from?

2015
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I want to really crappy. Okay, all right?

2016
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 1: Because it was Christians. I wouldn't have done that to

2017
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: kill a guy. Yeah, so Christians as hardcore fantasy can

2018
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: get right? No, because I think NBC Sports Boston tweeted

2019
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 1: out earlier today a poll. You know we're talking about

2020
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:12,760
Speaker 1: just like the Ovan thing, like all the different things

2021
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 1: that have gone wrong. Should they should the crass be

2022
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 1: considering a change at coach? And someone had read this

2023
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 1: to me and like laught and like how ridiculous is that?

2024
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean, Like, do you

2025
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 1: think then the guy goes? Do you think he should

2026
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 1: be fired? I said, no, I don't, but I can

2027
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: understand someone who who does Like, since Brady's left, it's

2028
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 1: gone downhill, right, So was it him or was it Brady?

2029
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:39,800
Speaker 1: Like I think if someone had that mentality, I'm not hitting,

2030
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 1: I'm not here to tell you you're right. And I

2031
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 1: think it was Brady and Belichick together. I think that

2032
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: that they succeeded together. Someone else might not look at

2033
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: it that way. Is that unfair? And I don't even

2034
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 1: look at it through the Brady versus Belichick think. I

2035
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:53,640
Speaker 1: just it's been going down hill. No, But that's what

2036
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, you know, like like it's just it's

2037
01:42:55,640 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: just like I think Bill deserves the chance to sort

2038
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:02,799
Speaker 1: of fix this mess that I think largely he created.

2039
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 1: But I think he deserves the child Pete Carroll when

2040
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 1: he was here starting the playoffs. By the time he left,

2041
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 1: he never had a losing season. His last season was

2042
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 1: eight and eight, ten and six, nine and seven eight.

2043
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,679
Speaker 1: Clairett was going in the wrong direction. I'll be interested

2044
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 1: to see if, like mister Kraft will like meet with

2045
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 1: players on offense to kind of hear what they have

2046
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 1: to say. Would you do that, like kind of like Robert,

2047
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 1: that's dangerous, that's dangerous. And you also get into but

2048
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:34,799
Speaker 1: the things that Kendrick Bourne said after the game b personally,

2049
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 1: I will defend Kendrick Bourne, and if they make him

2050
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:41,719
Speaker 1: inactive on Monday night, that is bogus because this offense

2051
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 1: is an absolute train wreck and they have good they

2052
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 1: have good enough players for it to be better, and

2053
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 1: he was just inactive. Mike resaid on the radio yesterday

2054
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 1: that he might be inactive for the game. See I

2055
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:54,679
Speaker 1: would just if you if you're gonna make him an active,

2056
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 1: just cut him. What are you gonna make him in act?

2057
01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 1: In fact that he's inactive or he's bench You know,

2058
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 1: he dresses, but he doesn't play, like whatever the case

2059
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 1: may be. To me, that is just so ridiculous that

2060
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: he actually had the backbone to stand up on on

2061
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 1: Thursday night and say what everybody else was thinking and

2062
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 1: everybody else knew was to be the truth about what

2063
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 1: was going on with the offense. And because he was right,

2064
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna bench him And I'm look, I'm getting

2065
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: mad at them for doing something that they haven't done yet,

2066
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 1: but I just I just see it coming, like I

2067
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 1: we know how this this goes. And Kendrick Bourne's already

2068
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 1: been down this road with this if what if from

2069
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 1: the get go two strikes Bill has said, this is

2070
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:40,879
Speaker 1: how we were on here. We don't air our dirty laundry.

2071
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 1: Come to me, Come to your position, coach. But if

2072
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 1: he already flip over a table in your position meeting,

2073
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 1: do whatever you do, but don't do it publicly. When

2074
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 1: then he's done it twice al what if he already

2075
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 1: has more than that? What if he already has but

2076
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: other guys have done it publicly too? Yeah? Yeah, what

2077
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 1: he means? What if he already has? What if kender

2078
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 1: Bourne already has? Because I don't think did Kendrick Bourne

2079
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 1: said anything to us on Thursday night that he hasn't

2080
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:06,599
Speaker 1: already said to the coaches? Yeah so awesto. I also

2081
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 1: didn't in my opinion, because I was standing right there

2082
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 1: with Evan. I don't think anything that he said was bad.

2083
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 1: Like I feel like he started off, he definitely paused

2084
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 1: before a lot of his answers, but I liked how

2085
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 1: he kept bringing it back to like I wish Mac

2086
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 1: had more time he was. I think he was really contradictory,

2087
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, maxis press converence, like he

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01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 1: would say something and then bring it back because he

2089
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 1: had because he had to praise the coaches every thirty seconds,

2090
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 1: and we're saying things like we need to go down field. Boy,

2091
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 1: Mac doesn't have any time, Like, I don't know, you

2092
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 1: borne thoroughly confused me. Yeah, I just but I'm with Evan.

2093
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 1: I kind of like the rant. No, I didn't. I

2094
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 1: wanted to say that based on I think William called

2095
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:47,680
Speaker 1: like saying, I like, I have no problem with with

2096
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 1: what they're what they were doing after the game and

2097
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: talking about I mean, everybody's frustrated, like everything they said.

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01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 1: I felt like, yeah, you know, and even like it's

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01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 1: not the fact that Kendrick too, He's like, it's so

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01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 1: annoying not being able to captain on what our defense

2101
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,599
Speaker 1: is doing. You finally forced the Bills to punt, then

2102
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 1: you can't do anything. You get a turnover, you literally

2103
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 1: can't do anything. He's like, it's annoying, it's frustrating. And

2104
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 1: then you have Max sing he wants to be coach harder, right,

2105
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 1: Cord that wrong's wrong. I want to be coached harder.

2106
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 1: That game plan was designed to essentially take advantage of

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01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 1: the fact that the Bills are near the bottom of

2108
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 1: the league and miss tackles, which by the way, was

2109
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 1: accumulated when they had like half their defense out due

2110
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: to injury. And on top of all of that, the

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01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 1: only guy that could make the miss a tackle is

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01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones. So you had to play Marcus Jones on

2113
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: offense to have one play to take advantage of that

2114
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 1: on those lines. Can I ask you real quick and

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01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 1: if you just one word answer, do you think if

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01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 1: Tae Kwon Thornton had that same bubble screen it's a touchdown? No? No,

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01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, probably, No, I don't. I

2118
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 1: mean I he I thought that might be alone on

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01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 1: that No, No, I didn't. Like I think it was

2120
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 1: a special run. I think if they got the ball

2121
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 1: to him ten yards downfield and he could lead, he could. Yeah. No,

2122
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 1: one's going to catch a pure acceleration. Well, to me,

2123
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 1: it was also setting like he only had Parker in

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01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 1: front of him, and there were two guys there in

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01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:16,639
Speaker 1: decent position, and he's sort of like like a punt return. Yeah,

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01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,640
Speaker 1: it was instinctive. He set the guy up perfectly and

2127
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 1: then he outran the angle r To me, it's totally

2128
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,639
Speaker 1: different type of speed. Yeah, Tai Kwon is a vertical speed.

2129
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 1: Type of guy. Marcus Jones is like Devin Hester speed. Right,

2130
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 1: it's shifty. It's Tyreek Hill's speed. Whereas Taekwon is is

2131
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 1: he's you know, Deshaun Jackson's speed. It's just a different,

2132
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 1: different level. All right, A couple more calls. I apologize

2133
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 1: so many emails. But we've had a good show. We have.

2134
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 1: We haven't got to any Todds in North Carolina quickly

2135
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Todd for Film and Christian with a ti N ESPN

2136
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 1: threw something on earlier Staton comparing Pete Carroll and what

2137
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 1: happened when they lost Willson to Belichick, when he lost Brady,

2138
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: and how Pete Carroll has got his team back playing well.

2139
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 1: I know their division is kind of but still, they

2140
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 1: did a really good comparison and they basically said, you know,

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01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:13,680
Speaker 1: Bill's missing the boat. There's something wrong there. It's not

2142
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 1: working out. You know, he's just not being getting the

2143
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 1: team to perform, and he's up putting the people in

2144
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 1: the right place and he doesn't even have the right people.

2145
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:21,679
Speaker 1: And it was a really good thing. So I thought,

2146
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 1: you know what, what Christian said, it's time for a change.

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01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm with him. I'm gonna put my neck on the

2148
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:28,719
Speaker 1: line with Christian. All Right, thank you guys. Thanks Todd.

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01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:33,599
Speaker 1: Rashad's in Baltimore. What's up with shod? Hey, what's up?

2150
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna make it quick. I just gotta

2151
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,639
Speaker 1: say I'm not looking forward to saying John Jones again

2152
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 1: the next the I mean, the rest of the season,

2153
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 1: the next number one wide receivers, Like, does he cover

2154
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:49,560
Speaker 1: Hopkins in man coverage? And he's one on one with

2155
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 1: the best wide receiver and he's always getting dragged down,

2156
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 1: He's always behind Tralon, Like, he's not a number one corner, Bill,

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01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 1: He's not a number one corn Yeah, well, we don't

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01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 1: have a number one corner. I think he is the

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01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 1: number one corner in certain matchups. Yeah, yeah, when the

2160
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 1: other team doesn't have a number one receiver, right, No,

2161
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 1: no plays one. But don't put don't put him in

2162
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 1: a position where he's going to have to do the

2163
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 1: best wide receiver and you know he can do it.

2164
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 1: You know he can't do it. And if you double

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01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:20,760
Speaker 1: the double to wide receiver, that usually does a bad either.

2166
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 1: So it's like, but it's a lot of things. I

2167
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 1: know it shows about the end. But that's that's what

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01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:29,880
Speaker 1: I had to get off my jack. I think that. Okay, thanks,

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01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:31,719
Speaker 1: So do you think it would have been any different

2170
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 1: on Thursday if Jalen Mills would have played like what,

2171
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 1: I don't think it would have helped a little. But

2172
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:40,760
Speaker 1: I think that and if he doesn't play on Monday night,

2173
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 1: Jala Mills does not play on Monday night, I think

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01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 1: it's less of a bad thing than it would have

2175
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 1: been against the Bills. Yeah, I mean I would say

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01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 1: that Mill because I think Jack Jones lost some playing

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01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 1: time the other night. I don't think Jack Jones has

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01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 1: played very well. I know he had like the flashy

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01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 1: takeaways against Green Bay. I don't think he's been that good. Um.

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01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 1: I think he lost some playing time as a result

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01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 1: of some of the players that I thought he didn't

2182
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 1: make that. I don't know that. No one's told me

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01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 1: that he was losing because of his play. Maybe Jalen

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01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 1: mills presence allows them to play him less. I think

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01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 1: Jack Jones has been exactly like what Treyvon Diggs was

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01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Right, It's like everything without

2187
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 1: all the big plays though. Well, but but he has

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01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 1: made the big plays early on, is my point, right,

2189
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 1: And it just he's he's struggled. I look, the air

2190
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 1: coverage has struggled for three straight weeks. I'd go back

2191
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 1: to the Jets game with Zach Wilson. There's a reason

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01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 1: why Zach Wilson. But what coincided with the struggling of

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01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 1: the coverage a little bit, I just they stopped getting

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01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. What's going on there? Well, that but

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01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 1: that's I think that's the biggest thing is that this

2196
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:45,760
Speaker 1: defense is driven through its pass rush, right, And I

2197
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:47,719
Speaker 1: think with a lot of these guys that they've faced

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01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, you know, I think

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01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 1: Kirk had a great game under pressure. I you have

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01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 1: to give him some kudos for that. And I would

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Speaker 1: also just mention that these good NFL quarterbacks, if there's

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01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 1: guys open downfield, the pressure doesn't affect them as much

2203
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,360
Speaker 1: as it affects the Zach Wilson or Sam Ellinger or

2204
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:09,720
Speaker 1: somebody like that. Right. So, if he's got an open

2205
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 1: receiver downfield, but he's got Matthew Judon bearing down, a

2206
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: lot of these quarterbacks, like Josh Allen, is still going

2207
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,639
Speaker 1: to make the throw. That's true. They've also faced better quarterbacks.

2208
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 1: They really have not covered well all years, and this

2209
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 1: has been something that I have been seeing on all

2210
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:24,640
Speaker 1: twenty two. Jason I had a corner high on our

2211
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 1: list in the draft because we just figured Ja Jackson's

2212
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 1: going and right now I think they got a yeah.

2213
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 1: I think they got a couple of promising players in

2214
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 1: the third and fourth round. I think I'd like to

2215
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 1: say that even though Barnmore hasn't had a great year,

2216
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 1: I think they've missed him a lot, and just the

2217
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 1: overall team rush together him eating blocks and all that stuff.

2218
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 1: I just he's quick off the ball and disruptive. He

2219
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 1: hadn't been productive, but I think that that has coincided

2220
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 1: with some of this drops. He was more productive than

2221
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 1: he got credit for because I think a lot of

2222
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 1: people chalk out pass rush production to sacks where and

2223
01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 1: he's a good player. Interior pressures doesn't work like that

2224
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 1: unless you're like Aaron Donald. So their interior pressure right

2225
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:06,679
Speaker 1: now is basically Daniel Aquale, which is a big drop

2226
01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 1: off from Christian Barmore. So I think that one of

2227
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 1: the things that I've been toying around with maybe them doing,

2228
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day with you know, like

2229
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 1: High Tower for example, used to rush over the interior

2230
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:19,559
Speaker 1: of the offensive line that used to stand him up

2231
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 1: like in the A or the B gap and have

2232
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 1: him rush as like a rush linebacker. I think I

2233
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: would like to see them maybe try to do that

2234
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 1: more with Judon and move him inside because they have

2235
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 1: guys like, you know, like Anfredy Jennings for example. He

2236
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 1: can set the edge right like he can just have

2237
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: that you know, that gap integrity, rush lane integrity, just

2238
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, stay in the on the outside, keep the

2239
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 1: quarterback in the pocket. He can do that, and I

2240
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 1: think a lot of the time over the last couple

2241
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 1: of weeks what's happened with Judon, especially against Josh Allen,

2242
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 1: is they're so worried about Josh Allen getting out of

2243
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 1: the pocket that Udon's edge or Judon's edge pressure kind

2244
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 1: of goes by the wayside because he's not it's not

2245
01:52:57,520 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 1: that type of game, right, It's not a pin your

2246
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 1: ears back off the edge type of game. So it's

2247
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 1: kind of taken him out of the game almost just

2248
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 1: by your own doing, you know, at that. But those

2249
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 1: rules in that kind of situation less stringent for an

2250
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:11,799
Speaker 1: interior rusher though, you know, like like a guy like barmore.

2251
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:13,759
Speaker 1: Would he have more free rein to break the pocket

2252
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 1: and get up in there rather than the edge guys

2253
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 1: who look, you cannot be past the quarterback. I would

2254
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:20,840
Speaker 1: think so because usually you have a second level behind

2255
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 1: you on the inside. Right, So usually you have that linebacker,

2256
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 1: whether it's Mac Wilson spying or it's just you know,

2257
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:31,720
Speaker 1: a zone layer, right, you know you're in zone and

2258
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 1: you have that second layer behind the interior rushers on

2259
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:38,679
Speaker 1: the edge, it just gets so dangerous because there's nothing

2260
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 1: there's no secondary force, right, Everything is just on that

2261
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 1: edge defender to keep him in the pocket. But they

2262
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:47,679
Speaker 1: have not been a great coverage team. I think Jonathan

2263
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 1: Jones is one of those guys that is good in

2264
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 1: certain matchups, like when he goes up against Tyreek Hill.

2265
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 1: I actually think he's pretty good because it's just speed

2266
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 1: on speed, right, it's just two fast guys guarding each other.

2267
01:53:58,160 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 1: But when he goes up against guys that can win

2268
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 1: at the catch point down the field, Hopkins is just

2269
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 1: too big. That's why I was That's why I asked

2270
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 1: you the question. Mike and I already talked about it

2271
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 1: on Monday. He's just too big, right, So I don't

2272
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 1: know what they do, so I personally, you know, I'll

2273
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 1: write about this later in the week. But once upon

2274
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 1: a time, as we keep saying around here right now,

2275
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 1: they used to go with that strategy a lot of

2276
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 1: the time where they would double the number one guy

2277
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: with the second corner right and then they would have

2278
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, the number one corner take the second receiver

2279
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:32,280
Speaker 1: on an island. So in this instance, I'm assuming Hollywood

2280
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 1: Brown's going to play. That's a great matchup for John,

2281
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:36,480
Speaker 1: a better matchup for Jones. But how do they handle

2282
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 1: Hopkins Because they used to do that with with Gilmore right,

2283
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,440
Speaker 1: so I would used to have pretty good success against Hopkins.

2284
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 1: This is why I hope that Jalen Mills plays, because

2285
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 1: I think he's You're better off doing this with Jalen

2286
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 1: Mills than with Jack Jones, because Jack Jones just scares

2287
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:49,920
Speaker 1: the crap out of me right now against the guy

2288
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 1: like Hopkins. But I would just I would either roll

2289
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 1: the safety over the top or straight up double team

2290
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins out of the game. And if they beat

2291
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 1: you throwing a Hollywood Brown one on one against John Jones,

2292
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:03,879
Speaker 1: or they're tight ends against Kyle Dugger and Adrian Phillips.

2293
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 1: Then you have to sort of live with that. But

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Speaker 1: what they did against Buffalo is basically play off coverage

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Speaker 1: zone and man off man and keep eyes in the

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Speaker 1: backfield to maybe get a pick and pray that he

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Speaker 1: didn't beat you over the top. I mean, unfortunately, I

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Speaker 1: think we're at the mercy in this game defensively of

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Speaker 1: Kyla Murray. Like, I think Kyler Murray is average as

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Speaker 1: a passer, and I think he has more than enough

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Speaker 1: weapons to really take advantage of the secondary. But Willie,

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Speaker 1: you know, will he be willing to do it? If

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Speaker 1: he only is able to get Hopkins four or five catches?

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Speaker 1: Will he be able to go to a J. Green

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Speaker 1: and Zach Ertz and Hollywood Brown? And who knows? My

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Speaker 1: favorite guy duced Greg Dortch. He's my favorite. He's been healthy.

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Speaker 1: He missed the last game with a thumb injury. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if he's able to do that, I just don't see

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Speaker 1: I don't see them slow. I don't see him stop

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Speaker 1: them now, all right with Hopkins. I just wanted this

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Speaker 1: last point. Their offense has been bad all year Arizona.

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Speaker 1: They haven't been very productive. When Hopkins and Murray both

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Speaker 1: plays happened four times. They average over twenty eight a game.

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Speaker 1: Can you get twenty eight? I don't think we can call. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into that tomorrow because we have another

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Speaker 1: We gotta catch twenty two. So plenty of your plus

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