Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, arm Strong and Getty and
Speaker 2: he Armstrong and Eddy. Elon called me.
Speaker 3: He said, you know they're trying to drive us apart.
Speaker 3: I said absolutely. Now, they said, we are breaking as
Speaker 3: Donald Trump has seated control of the presidency to Elon Musk.
Speaker 3: President Musk will be attending a cabinet meeting at eight o'clock.
Speaker 3: And I say, it's just so obvious. They're so bad
Speaker 3: at it. I used to think they were good at it.
Speaker 3: They're actually bad at it. Because if they were good
Speaker 3: at it, I'd never be president.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I wanted to find somebody smarter than him.
Speaker 2: I searched all over. I just couldn't do it. I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I couldn't really try it harder. I couldn't find anyone smaller. Right,
Speaker 2: So we had it. We had it for the country.
Speaker 2: But they settled, and we settled on this.
Speaker 4: Thanks having me, Donald Trump and Elon Musk their first
Speaker 4: interview together, I believe on Hannity on Fox last night.
Speaker 4: They do have a bit of a bromance going, right,
Speaker 4: And we've.
Speaker 1: All seen the just ham handed efforts of the mainstream
Speaker 1: media to like drive a wedge, and I wondered how
Speaker 1: that was going. I'm glad to hear they're snickering at
Speaker 1: it so obvious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hear a little more of this.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 3: I respect him, I've always respected him.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: I never knew that he was right on certain things,
Speaker 3: and I'm usually pretty good at this stuff. He did starlink,
Speaker 3: He did things that was so advanced and nobody knew
Speaker 3: what the hell they were. We watched the rocket chips,
Speaker 3: so we watch Tesler. I think you know, something that
Speaker 3: had an effect on me was when I saw the
Speaker 3: rocket ship come back and get grabbed, like you grab
Speaker 3: a beautiful little baby.
Speaker 2: You grab your baby. It just I've never seen everyone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little more on that front.
Speaker 3: When he talks about the executive orders, and this is
Speaker 3: probably true for all precedents. You write an executive order
Speaker 3: and you think it's done. You said to out, it
Speaker 3: doesn't get done, it doesn't get implemented, they don't implement it.
Speaker 2: As soon as he said that, I said, you know,
Speaker 2: that's interesting.
Speaker 3: You write a beautiful executive and you sign it and
Speaker 3: you assume it's going to be done.
Speaker 2: But it's not.
Speaker 3: What he does is he takes it and with his
Speaker 3: hundred geniuses. He's got some very brilliant young people working
Speaker 3: for him that dress much worse than him.
Speaker 2: Actually, they dressing just T shirts. You wouldn't you wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: They have one hundred and eighty ideas. So he's your
Speaker 2: tech support. Actually, he gets it done. He's a leader.
Speaker 2: He gets it done.
Speaker 3: So when he said that, he said, you know, when
Speaker 3: you sign these executive orders, a lot of them don't
Speaker 3: get done, and maybe the most important ones. And he
Speaker 3: would take that executive order that I'd sign and he
Speaker 3: would have those people go to whatever agency it was, when.
Speaker 2: Are you doing it? Get it done? Get it done?
Speaker 2: And some guy that maybe didn't want to do.
Speaker 3: It, all of a sudden he's signing it.
Speaker 2: Just does.
Speaker 4: I thought that was interesting because that's the thing our
Speaker 4: friend Tim Sander is always talking about. You know, you
Speaker 4: they pass a bill or in this case it's executive orders,
Speaker 4: you know, no bad things. Then it goes off into
Speaker 4: the department or the agency or whatever, and they do
Speaker 4: whatever the hell they want. Yeah, and nobody follows up
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 1: And I've always thought the term deep state was just
Speaker 1: too scary movie conspiracy theory sounding, even though it's accurate.
Speaker 1: I've always preferred the term the permanent bureaucracy because it's
Speaker 1: you know, more plain spoken. And the permanent bureaucracy swings
Speaker 1: way left because it is in large measure you unionized
Speaker 1: government employees, and they do what they want. They can
Speaker 1: slow walk you, they can lose the file, they cannot
Speaker 1: return the call. They can uh, well, sorry, we worded
Speaker 1: that wrong when we put out funding. But there are
Speaker 1: a thousand ways that the bureaucracy, the permanent bureaucracy Steymy's
Speaker 1: cabinet officials and even the president.
Speaker 4: I like the fact that Elon Musk, as wealthy as
Speaker 4: he is, cares about taxpayer money for the average person,
Speaker 4: like he talks about here.
Speaker 5: In order to save taxpayer money, it comes down to
Speaker 5: two things, competence and caring. And when the President was
Speaker 5: shown the outrageous bill for the new Air Force one
Speaker 5: and then negotiated it down, if the President had not
Speaker 5: applied competence in caring, the price would have been fifty
Speaker 5: percent higher, literally fifty percent higher. The president cared the
Speaker 5: president's competent, the price was not fifty percent higher. As
Speaker 5: a result, and so when you add more competence and caring,
Speaker 5: you get a better deal for the American people.
Speaker 2: I think the average.
Speaker 5: Taxpaying Americans should be mad as hell because their tax
Speaker 5: money is being I'm early spent.
Speaker 4: There aren't many people, especially people that have lived their
Speaker 4: lives in government, who think about how taxpayer money is
Speaker 4: spent at all.
Speaker 1: Or to the contrary of what he was describing, they
Speaker 1: want more so they can hand out more to enhance
Speaker 1: their own power. The idea of cutting spending is abhorrent,
Speaker 1: as we've said many times on many themes, whether it's
Speaker 1: the bullet train in California or the green energy scam
Speaker 1: of grants. The point is handing out the money. The
Speaker 1: program is an excuse. The point is to spend the money.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you get to where you don't
Speaker 4: care about people's tax money.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: The people I run around with, and you tend to
Speaker 4: run around with people like yourself. Mostly your whole life
Speaker 4: is just you know, you get your first real paycheck,
Speaker 4: it's like how much gets taken out.
Speaker 2: And then you find and then what's it going to?
Speaker 1: This What we're explaining is the reason why you have
Speaker 1: to have severely restricted government. If it gets big and bloated,
Speaker 1: it will steal and waste, because that is how human
Speaker 1: beings act every single time. The it's it's not odd
Speaker 1: or surprising that politicians don't care about what did he say,
Speaker 1: competence and caring. It's because they're out to achieve the opposite.
Speaker 1: It's not that they're not good at it, it's that
Speaker 1: they're trying to do the opposite. That would be my
Speaker 1: only quibble with with Elon. Now, there are some, certainly
Speaker 1: you who are are responsible and care about taxpayer money,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a.
Speaker 4: Bit of a niche. I think in DC, Trump did
Speaker 4: a lot of praising Elon. Here's Elon praising Trump.
Speaker 5: I think I think President Trump is a good man
Speaker 5: and he's you.
Speaker 2: Know, I said, that's the way he said that. You know,
Speaker 2: it's something I.
Speaker 5: Said that it really is, you know, because I mean,
Speaker 5: the President has been so unfailure attacked in the media.
Speaker 2: It's truly outrageous.
Speaker 5: And I've spent at this point spent a lot of
Speaker 5: time with president and not once have I seen him
Speaker 5: something that was mean or cruel or or wrong.
Speaker 2: That on that's interesting.
Speaker 1: So according to the Doge guys, they found four point
Speaker 1: seven trillion dollars in treasury payments on untraceable budget lines
Speaker 1: with a code. Well, in the federal government, you've got
Speaker 1: this Treasury Access symbol, which is a code you put
Speaker 1: on the expenditure to show what kind of expenditure is
Speaker 1: and where it's going.
Speaker 2: And they said quote in the federal government.
Speaker 1: The TAS field was optional for about four point seven
Speaker 1: trillion dollars in payments and was often left blank, making
Speaker 1: traceability almost impossible. They posted on X as of Saturday,
Speaker 1: this is now required field. I'm sorry. I meant to
Speaker 1: say Twitter. I refuse to say X. I will never
Speaker 1: say X again unless I slip up.
Speaker 2: It's Twitter. That's a good hill to die on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go anyway.
Speaker 1: This will increase insight into where money's actually going.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: There have been a handful of things that they've said,
Speaker 1: like the fifty million dollars in condoms and gods that
Speaker 1: that's not true, and the Politico subscription thing. Sorry, folks,
Speaker 1: that was completely misunderstood. That was not what it was
Speaker 1: portrayed to be. It was actually pretty legitimate.
Speaker 4: The condoms of the Tally Band's true, isn't it? Well,
Speaker 4: kind of sort of.
Speaker 1: It was part of a big package of aid to
Speaker 1: the country, and some of it was spent on condoms,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, I could get into the details,
Speaker 1: but a lot of the headlines that get hot online
Speaker 1: are grossly oversimplified.
Speaker 2: And actually Elon walked back the millions of dollars of
Speaker 2: condoms in Gazi.
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I just got that wrong. Sorry, which
Speaker 1: is fine, that's going to happen. I'm not there are
Speaker 1: some people are using that as an indictment of the
Speaker 1: entire effort, but they're the ones in on the scam,
Speaker 1: so they'll do anything they can to derail it anyway,
Speaker 1: that's right. My point was this four point seven trillion
Speaker 1: dollars in untraceable money. I want to stay with this
Speaker 1: because it sounds like too perfect to be true, right,
Speaker 1: But if it's even close to true that they're I mean.
Speaker 2: That's not impossible.
Speaker 4: Remember in California, it was a big story in California,
Speaker 4: the billions of dollars we've spent on the homeless problem.
Speaker 4: Somebody looked into you know, how it's doing, where it's
Speaker 4: going impossible. Nobody was keeping track of any results with
Speaker 4: that money at all.
Speaker 1: Not only did they not know what the results were.
Speaker 1: There isn't even an mechanism to check.
Speaker 4: There wasn't nobody drew up a the way we would
Speaker 4: measure results and check back in six months.
Speaker 2: There just wasn't one naving well.
Speaker 1: Right, And if cal Unicornia, which is a nation, if
Speaker 1: you will, of roughly forty million people to get in
Speaker 1: the world, is he regularly here exactly could get that
Speaker 1: corrupted off track? Well, it's certainly possible that in the
Speaker 1: deep dark recesses of the Treasury there's all sorts.
Speaker 2: Of hinky as going on.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'll believe that AI is really gonna
Speaker 4: be something is when I don't have to every single day,
Speaker 4: sometimes multiple times a day, type in my email address
Speaker 4: or phone number or home address or something like that.
Speaker 4: How is there not some sort of AI system on
Speaker 4: everything I use that fills all that in so I'm
Speaker 4: not still doing it with my thumbs.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy. I think about that every time.
Speaker 2: It's like, really, how is it?
Speaker 4: How am I once again filling out my address for anything?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And there are enough systems and websites and the rest
Speaker 1: of it that have auto fill. When you're run into
Speaker 1: one that doesn't, it's like, what is this the eighteenth century?
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course that'll you know, probably enable scammers to scam.
Speaker 2: But you know that's fine.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you think that AI's got a way around that
Speaker 4: or some way to fill in my phone number and
Speaker 4: all that stuff that I do a million times a year,
Speaker 4: sure without putting it out there for that Oh.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
Speaker 1: And if they can't conquer that, unplug the internet, right,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work.
Speaker 2: You're not good enough at it, right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think your prince eyeball, Grundle print, whatever, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: just some way to positively identify Grundle print.
Speaker 2: I'm not touching your keyboard.
Speaker 4: Need a gun print to get into the building. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you need to put that lower. I can't get that
Speaker 4: up my grundle up that high.
Speaker 1: No, that was that was the character in Harry Potter
Speaker 1: Grundle Print. He was the dark arts teacher.
Speaker 4: Awesome, as I recall, Uh, we got a lot more
Speaker 4: on the way, stay here, Armstrong.
Speaker 2: And so who is in charge of DOGE?
Speaker 7: The President of the United States, he's the administrator of DOGE. No,
Speaker 7: the DOGE is the what was formerly US Digital Services.
Speaker 7: It's an agency of the federal government that reports into
Speaker 7: the Office of the Executive Office of the President, which
Speaker 7: reports to the President of the United States.
Speaker 1: That was a short clip of a longer exchange in
Speaker 1: which Abudan Costella, like Brianna Keeler simpleton CNN.
Speaker 2: Uh, the guest was involved with the pols, what polls?
Speaker 2: Some of them?
Speaker 4: All of them I like, are actually uh just as
Speaker 4: a presence on CNN seems like a last person.
Speaker 2: I don't even remember where to find CNN.
Speaker 1: Like most Americans, it's dead to me anyway. But the
Speaker 1: current campaign among the media is who's even a charge dog?
Speaker 1: It's accountable to no one, only to itself. I mean, no,
Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to deal with, is unaccountable only
Speaker 1: to its you lying at it.
Speaker 4: Chris extra hilarious, of course, since all of the media
Speaker 4: outside of Fox didn't ask those questions for the last
Speaker 4: four years when somebody was running the country, the foreign policy,
Speaker 4: the domestic policy, everything, because the president's mind was shot
Speaker 4: and you weren't asking those questions of who's running things?
Speaker 2: Then you read my mind.
Speaker 1: So the fact that it's somewhat unclear, in fact, it's
Speaker 1: not at all unclear, but we're pretending that it's somewhat unclear.
Speaker 1: That this new little agency that's trying to rain and spending.
Speaker 1: Is it's not clear who's a charge all.
Speaker 2: Of a sudden, that's the crisis.
Speaker 1: The whole effing country was run by nobody knows for
Speaker 1: the last at least a couple of years, and you
Speaker 1: didn't have any interest in asking that question, Brianna Phony.
Speaker 1: Final thought on doge. As we mentioned before, Elon was
Speaker 1: toying with the idea of as they identified just enormous
Speaker 1: areas of fraud and waste, that they eliminate and save
Speaker 1: billions and billions and billions of dollars. They ought to
Speaker 1: carve off a check to the American taxpayer, give them, say,
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars of their tax money back. Yes, because
Speaker 1: we've saved so much. And it occurred to me, with
Speaker 1: the help of one of Josiah and Utah brilliant listener,
Speaker 1: that if you were to carve off, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: twenty five cents thirty five cents of every dollar they
Speaker 1: save and return it to the taxpayer, and then the
Speaker 1: other two thirds of it just eliminate from the budget
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, the popularity of doge would be
Speaker 1: a perpetual motion machine. The more they cut, the more
Speaker 1: people would love it. It could be the best idea
Speaker 1: in the history of politics.
Speaker 4: Five thousand dollars. Check, I'm off to the Indian casino
Speaker 4: read twenty one.
Speaker 2: Come on now, well tis they're on? How much time
Speaker 2: I got, Mike, I'm trying to decide to would do
Speaker 2: this here or not? Pens whether you keep eating poorly?
Speaker 2: I've got three minutes here.
Speaker 4: So Trump just tweeted out, uh oh, this is after
Speaker 4: yesterday where he blamed Ukraine for starting the war, which
Speaker 4: I have no idea what that is.
Speaker 2: This is Trump a few minutes ago. Think of it.
Speaker 4: A modestly successful comedian, Vladimer Zelenski talked to the United
Speaker 4: States of America into spending three hundred and fifty billion
Speaker 4: dollars to go into a war that couldn't be won,
Speaker 4: that never had to start, but a war that he
Speaker 4: without the US and Trump will never be able to settle.
Speaker 4: The United Sates States has spent two hundred billion dollars
Speaker 4: more than Europe, and Europe's money is guaranteed, while the
Speaker 4: United States will get nothing back. Why didn't sleepy Joe
Speaker 4: Biden demand equalization? In that this war is far more
Speaker 4: important to Europe than it is to us. We have
Speaker 4: a big, beautiful ocean at separation. On top of this,
Speaker 4: Zelensky admits that half of the money we sent him
Speaker 4: is missing. He refuses to have elections, is very low
Speaker 4: in Ukrainian polls, and the only thing he was good
Speaker 4: at was playing Biden like a fiddle. He's a dictator
Speaker 4: without elections. Zelensky better move fast, and he's not going
Speaker 4: to have a country left. In the meantime, we are
Speaker 4: successfully no negotiating an end.
Speaker 2: Of the war. Blah blah blah, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Zelensky probably wants to keep the gravy train going. I
Speaker 4: love Ukraine, but Lezinsky has done Zelensky has done a
Speaker 4: terrible job. His country is shattered and millions have unnecessarily died,
Speaker 4: and so it continues. That's uh horrible, I know, shocking.
Speaker 4: I know people that believe that. I think you're unbelievably wrong,
Speaker 4: that this is some sort of for profit scheme that
Speaker 4: Zelensky has dreamed up and he's a dictator and all that.
Speaker 4: I think he's a hero and a patriot who risked
Speaker 4: his own life and his family's life to stay there
Speaker 4: and try to defend his country in the face of
Speaker 4: the worst invasion since.
Speaker 1: Hitler right, and he was freely elected. Yeah, I if
Speaker 1: I'm going to be brutally honest about Trump, I don't
Speaker 1: think he has a philosophy of geopolitics other than America first.
Speaker 1: And sometimes I think he doesn't understand that it is
Speaker 1: absolutely in America's long term interest materially to enforce and
Speaker 1: preserve the norms of you know, international relations that of
Speaker 1: his existed post World War Two.
Speaker 2: I think he is way too cavalier about throwing that away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when the world order is gone, we'll miss it.
Speaker 4: We'll miss it a lot because it benefits us greatly.
Speaker 1: And everything Doze is doing right could be washed away
Speaker 1: about the tides.
Speaker 4: Of chaos anyway, That's Trump's latest tweet. You got any comment?
Speaker 4: Four one, five, two nine five kftc Armstrong and.
Speaker 3: Getdy hy by mine dud's cuss the sheet over here, right,
Speaker 3: I coup over that huse there?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: And that's an invite to a party. On February fifteenth,
Speaker 4: I open the.
Speaker 6: Door and it is our like eighty five year old
Speaker 6: neighbor who is truly like such a sweetheart, and he
Speaker 6: gives me a little invitation and it says a celebration
Speaker 6: of winter four pm until the cops arrive.
Speaker 2: Until the cops arrived, he's literally eighty five.
Speaker 6: I'll only bring a smile. Frisbyp to his email and
Speaker 6: he gave his phone number.
Speaker 4: Love Doug, Ah, your eighty five year old neighbor shows
Speaker 4: up with a party invitation. Party starts at four and
Speaker 4: goes until the cops arrive. Wow, that's fantastic. Of course
Speaker 4: you get over there and it turns out he's got
Speaker 4: some sort of breaking bad meth lab thing going are something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I found that I have more questions than answers
Speaker 1: about that clip.
Speaker 2: So here you go.
Speaker 4: I want to see if we can put this to
Speaker 4: rest once and for all here and I you'd be
Speaker 4: better to present this story than me, because you have
Speaker 4: studied it way more than I have. But I think
Speaker 4: if I present it and you like comment on it.
Speaker 2: It might work better. And this and this is s Low.
Speaker 2: This is around free.
Speaker 4: Speech and what you know. Kicking off the conversation yesterday
Speaker 4: with JD. Vance lecturing Europe about letting free speech go
Speaker 4: and the ridiculous CBS over the weekend, Margaret Brennan with
Speaker 4: they weaponized free speech in Germany for a holocaust?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about, lady?
Speaker 1: And then one of the stupidest sentences ever uttered in
Speaker 1: the English lineup, It really.
Speaker 4: Is, And then sixty minutes cheering on Germany for breaking
Speaker 4: down people's doors and coming in with guns drawn, for
Speaker 4: inappropriate cartoons and whatnot. Anyway, this is the whole conversation,
Speaker 4: because I was saying this up until a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago, not having any idea what I was talking about,
Speaker 4: which is true of a lot of things that I
Speaker 4: talk about.
Speaker 2: But you know, you can't yell fire in a crowded
Speaker 2: movie house.
Speaker 4: So to like nail this down without even getting into
Speaker 4: the court case it came from originally and all that
Speaker 4: sort of stuff, which we can do if you want, but.
Speaker 2: I don't even think we have to.
Speaker 4: First of all, it is I did a deep dive
Speaker 4: on YouTube videos and there's so many great things from fire,
Speaker 4: and various.
Speaker 2: Judges and legal minds across the country into this sort
Speaker 2: of thing.
Speaker 4: About the it's impossible to stop the the never. You
Speaker 4: can't bring up free speech without somebody saying, well, you know,
Speaker 4: you can't yell fire in a crowded movie house.
Speaker 2: You just you can'.
Speaker 4: It's impossible. It's like it's like it's like having weeds
Speaker 4: or something right and they go back or whatever. It's
Speaker 4: worse than that. But the best example I heard of
Speaker 4: it was I think it was a podcast as listened
Speaker 4: to it a couple of.
Speaker 2: Weeks ago at Charles CW. Cook, who was really upset
Speaker 2: about this because he said, just just strip all that away.
Speaker 2: Let's just get down to the basic. You're in a
Speaker 2: movie house.
Speaker 4: Without any of the other extraneous legal matters if you yell.
Speaker 4: First of all, the one word that's always left out
Speaker 4: is you can't falsely yell fire in a crowded movie house.
Speaker 4: But people always say you can't yell fire in a
Speaker 4: crowded movie house. But there's a big difference there. But
Speaker 4: so if you're sitting in a theater you're watching the
Speaker 4: New Captain America, yes and you yell, but yes and
Speaker 4: you yell fire if there's if there's nobody there, it
Speaker 4: makes no difference.
Speaker 2: If there's only a few people there.
Speaker 4: They're gonna look around and think you think there's a fire, honey,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'll smell of smoke. Guy must know something.
Speaker 4: And you would walk to the exit and nobody hurt
Speaker 4: and nothing would happen, so nobody'd be charged with anything
Speaker 4: if the place is on fire. As I saw one
Speaker 4: legal expert from fire, they're the people that stand up
Speaker 4: for free speech.
Speaker 2: Foundation for individual rights and expression. Correct. Yeah, he's unfortunately
Speaker 2: named for this discussion.
Speaker 4: He said, I'm telling you this right now, if you're
Speaker 4: in a theater and it's on fire, it's your duty
Speaker 4: to yell fire.
Speaker 1: Yes, you can indeed yell fire in a crowded movie
Speaker 1: house in virtually every circumstance except the one where it's
Speaker 1: falsely claimed and you cause a panic and people are hurt.
Speaker 2: Right, But so if you yell fire.
Speaker 4: The other scenario is you yell fire, there isn't a fire,
Speaker 4: and people rush toward the door and somebody gets knocked down,
Speaker 4: hits their head and dies or something like that. One
Speaker 4: that makes you a complete lunatic to do that, and
Speaker 4: a dangerous society.
Speaker 2: And then two, you're gonna get sued for all kinds.
Speaker 4: Of different things, maybe by the movie theater, maybe by
Speaker 4: an insurance company, all kinds of different things you incited.
Speaker 2: Maybe you'd call it a riot or there's a variety
Speaker 2: of things. But it's got a civil liability obviously, nothing
Speaker 2: to do with free speech. No, that doesn't even factor
Speaker 2: into the whole thing. No, so what do you think? Yes, Katie,
Speaker 2: I have a very just a question.
Speaker 8: I have never in my life heard it called a
Speaker 8: movie house.
Speaker 4: Okay, well that that I think that goes himy, that
Speaker 4: goes to the original court case. I think that's why
Speaker 4: they called a movie house. Because it was nineteen thirteen
Speaker 4: or whatever it was.
Speaker 2: I thought that was you be and you just me
Speaker 2: being an old man.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad assumption. But no, in this case. Indeed,
Speaker 1: that citation was from yesterdayear.
Speaker 4: As a woman once said to me, and I said,
Speaker 4: I'm She said something about me being a boomer, and
Speaker 4: I said, I'm actually Generation XT. She said, yeah, but
Speaker 4: you really scream boomer. Wow, boomers have taken you in
Speaker 4: as an honorary member. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's also, well, let's go to the movie house.
Speaker 1: As your clever gen X retort.
Speaker 4: Katie, I was just I was just using the language
Speaker 4: of whichever judge it was that.
Speaker 1: Wrote that car citation. Woman, maintain your silence, all right.
Speaker 2: Ky theater you can't. You can't.
Speaker 1: So, but it is perfectly legal to shout movie in
Speaker 1: a crowded firehouse.
Speaker 2: Keep that in mind.
Speaker 4: That's funny. You gotta do that? Does that ever happen
Speaker 4: to fire people? Ever do that to fire fire people?
Speaker 4: Probably fireman when you're if we're ever doing that again,
Speaker 4: we're at a fire station.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do that. Movy everybody, see if anything happens.
Speaker 2: So what do you think the sense?
Speaker 4: Even on its face without even getting into the legal principles,
Speaker 4: it doesn't make any sense. Why do you think it
Speaker 4: continues the way it does? Is always coming up if
Speaker 4: you're discussing free speech, because it's a.
Speaker 1: Very handy, easy to understand way to state that there
Speaker 1: are a few exceptions to the right.
Speaker 2: To free speech.
Speaker 1: That's it kind of illustrates that, is there anybody? It's
Speaker 1: past hackwards.
Speaker 4: But but but are there people that think, you know,
Speaker 4: I can walk up to my boss and call him
Speaker 4: an a hole because of free speech?
Speaker 2: Well, if you do, you're either a child or an.
Speaker 1: Idiot, or a former employee or a former employee.
Speaker 2: Right right, Well there, I.
Speaker 1: Just actually, funnily enough, wrote a bit of an essay
Speaker 1: on this. And yeah, there are all sorts of societal, religious,
Speaker 1: just good manners, practical considerations before you exercise your free speech,
Speaker 1: and so it's limited in various ways. It's just not
Speaker 1: limited by the government except in some very specific, very
Speaker 1: very limited ways, which include nothing to do with the
Speaker 1: shouting conflagration in a house of cinema.
Speaker 4: Where I learned years ago. Harry, here's a good one
Speaker 4: for you, Katie, because this was long before you joined
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 1: I once went to him, Katie, you are allowed to
Speaker 1: speak again now, Oh, thank you, appreciate it.
Speaker 4: I'm telling a story here, glad it's a little heart
Speaker 4: would be good. This is many, many years ago. This
Speaker 4: is probably twenty some years ago.
Speaker 8: Permission to play from Joe, so she was probably hesitant, right.
Speaker 4: I went to a movie and I didn't like it
Speaker 4: right off the bat.
Speaker 2: I thought it was horrible.
Speaker 4: And so this is the middle of the day, I'm
Speaker 4: by myself, and all the theaters were empty. Back when
Speaker 4: I was single and childless. It's hard to believe that
Speaker 4: my life was ever like that, that I was ever
Speaker 4: like at a movie theater by myself in the middle
Speaker 4: of the day.
Speaker 1: I just I was thinking the same thing as you
Speaker 1: were doing that, and I had a house full of
Speaker 1: little kids.
Speaker 2: Yes, I can't believe anybody lives like that. That's wild,
Speaker 2: but So I was at.
Speaker 4: This movie and like, fifteen minutes in, this movie is horrible.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna hate this movie. And there was another movie.
Speaker 4: I'd been trying to decide between it and that and
Speaker 4: the theater and that, you know, it's a multiplex. So
Speaker 4: I get out of my seat and I go over
Speaker 4: and watch the other movie, thinking no harm, no foul.
Speaker 4: I paid for a movie, and I watched am movie.
Speaker 2: Right, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: I stuck around and watched two movies like some people do.
Speaker 4: I just went to a different one.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 4: I talked about it on the air and found out
Speaker 4: that is a crime. It's an actual crime, and it's
Speaker 4: called defrauding an innkeeper.
Speaker 8: What Yeah, so what you're supposed to waste ten minutes
Speaker 8: to go up and exchange your movie ticket or something.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's defrauding an innkeeper. So I
Speaker 4: tell my kids that all the time. Day I think
Speaker 4: we might be defrauding an innkeeper here, like if we
Speaker 4: sneak a water into the movie instead of paying for it.
Speaker 4: Because I was at the theater the other day, they
Speaker 4: wanted six dollars for a regular bottle of water. Six
Speaker 4: dollars good, You know what? And I kind of thought,
Speaker 4: you know, that's not bad. You're actually just you're just
Speaker 4: charging somebody for it. You're not gonna bring your own.
Speaker 4: How high would we have to mark up the pratices
Speaker 4: on these waters before you.
Speaker 2: Bring one in your purse.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna suitcase it like a prisoner before I pay
Speaker 1: six dollars for a bottle of water.
Speaker 2: Please, Joe, why are you walking like that down in
Speaker 2: the movie? Here? Suitcase, give me a minute at all.
Speaker 2: I'll meet you in the theater.
Speaker 1: Oh, LUs, if a fire breaks out, I can use
Speaker 1: this water to put it out, so nobody shouts defrauding
Speaker 1: an innkeeper.
Speaker 4: You can't sneak in the popcorn the same way. I mean,
Speaker 4: you could bring in popcorn, but it's not as good.
Speaker 4: They're chemically delicious butter that doesn't taste anything like butter,
Speaker 4: is its own unique flavor.
Speaker 2: Oh and I love you on an early grave. But
Speaker 2: it's delicious. Yeah, And they'll butter the popcorn.
Speaker 8: And then now they've got the spouts where you can
Speaker 8: go add more yourself.
Speaker 2: Have you seen those? Yeah? I have that yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and access to a Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's like yeah, it's like an all you can drink
Speaker 4: butter bar that they've got once you buy the first
Speaker 4: tub of popcorn. Last time on into the movie. We
Speaker 4: went to Gladiator two with both my kids. I didn't
Speaker 4: get anything, but I got them a couple of things
Speaker 4: and it was forty bucks. So total for the three
Speaker 4: people going in the movie and the concession was almost
Speaker 4: one hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Wow, I thought. I told them.
Speaker 4: I said, I'm not doing this again. We are not
Speaker 4: getting concession. I'm not spending forty bucks on concessions. Thanks, time,
Speaker 4: get a big purse.
Speaker 3: I tried to sneak of a heata in you know the
Speaker 3: fietas Yeah, oh yeah and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, suit case. Do you sneak things into the theater
Speaker 2: like beers? I used to do that, Katie.
Speaker 8: I will not confirm nor deny since.
Speaker 4: It is defrauding an innkeeper. How old old tiny is
Speaker 4: that at the movie house?
Speaker 2: Like exactly?
Speaker 4: Okay, water, Yes, a candy bar if you need a
Speaker 4: candy bar. You don't need a candy bar the movie anyway,
Speaker 4: Mike and.
Speaker 2: I So, yeah, I don't. I don't. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I Ever since I was a little kid, if we
Speaker 1: wanted food, we brought it with us because it's so expensive.
Speaker 1: And I grew up, as they say, without money, so
Speaker 1: the idea of bringing your own snacks is perfectly reasonable
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem odd at all.
Speaker 4: No, No, I think they no, and and they don't.
Speaker 4: I've never been anywhere where they seem to police that,
Speaker 4: so they're not.
Speaker 2: I don't think it bothers them.
Speaker 1: Agree occasionally show up at a restaurant with a nice
Speaker 1: ham and several side dishes, and I.
Speaker 2: Just like being waited upon. But no, I brought my
Speaker 2: I just need your cutlery. I have no forks at
Speaker 2: ho it cannot really.
Speaker 8: I had a great time once when I had I
Speaker 8: don't know where this purse went, and I'm so sad
Speaker 8: about it, but it could hold a bag of wine
Speaker 8: and it had a spout.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, great, great time. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I used to drink beers into the theater and then
Speaker 4: you got you gotta time opening your beer with some
Speaker 4: loud noise on the television. So when Nicholas Kaijuk blows
Speaker 4: something up, that's when you open your beer.
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1: So my home stage, or at least I claim it
Speaker 1: as my homestate of Illinois, is crumbling and corrupt. And
Speaker 1: then I moved to California for twenty five years and
Speaker 1: crumbling and crupt.
Speaker 2: I'm beginning to think it's me.
Speaker 1: But in the race to the bottom, Illinois has really
Speaker 1: got some momentum.
Speaker 2: Share that with you in a moment or two.
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like when Kanye West was talking
Speaker 4: to his wife about the divorce and he said, it's
Speaker 4: not you or me, it's the Jews.
Speaker 2: I like that joke. Wow.
Speaker 4: Twice from Saturday Night lives there, I remember staying with us.
Speaker 1: So the other das going through my hoodies because I
Speaker 1: have too many of them and I don't wear them all,
Speaker 1: you know, at all?
Speaker 2: In some cases are not.
Speaker 4: I've been wearing the same one hoodie I have for
Speaker 4: everything for a long time, and I really need a
Speaker 4: new hoodie. It's looking a little grungy.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I could do you want three? Or four? Anyway?
Speaker 1: One that I absolutely refuse to get rid of, no
Speaker 1: matter how little I wear. It is my State of
Speaker 1: Jefferson hoodie. The State of Jefferson a movement in northern
Speaker 1: California and southern Oregon for the good and reasonable folks
Speaker 1: of those two regions to secede from their crazy ass
Speaker 1: progressive crumbling mobbed up high tax states ruled by Portland
Speaker 1: in one case and the big coastal cities in California
Speaker 1: on the other and form their own reasonable state of
Speaker 1: moderate to conservative politics. I wish it could happen. It
Speaker 1: probably won't, but I was extra excited to read this.
Speaker 1: The state where I grew up, Illinois, secession is in
Speaker 1: the air. This did not get much notice, but in November,
Speaker 1: seven Illinois counties voted to consider seceding.
Speaker 2: I could list the counties, but most of you have
Speaker 2: never heard of them.
Speaker 1: And six of the seven counties approved the advisory question,
Speaker 1: should we consider seceding from the state of Illinois. Six
Speaker 1: of the seven approved it by more than seventy percent.
Speaker 4: Now, are they talking about forming their own state or
Speaker 4: joining with a surrounding state, Nebraska or Indiana?
Speaker 1: Okay, indeed Indiana, and the House Speaker of Indiana, Todd Hustin, said,
Speaker 1: come on over, You'd be more than welcome. It's it
Speaker 1: would be very difficult to pull this off. But the
Speaker 1: child grooming, gender bending nightmare of a governor mobster JB.
Speaker 1: Pritzker called the secession idea stunt and derided Indiana as
Speaker 1: a low wage state that doesn't protect workers, a state
Speaker 1: that does not provide healthcare for people when they're in need,
Speaker 1: which is all code for they don't mutilate their little
Speaker 1: kids who are momentarily confused about their sex during puberty
Speaker 1: or whatever. But if you look at the this is
Speaker 1: you know, the organizations here are little cumbersome. They're a
Speaker 1: variety of think tanks and business organizations. But the state
Speaker 1: economic outlook for twenty twenty four, Indiana is fifth in
Speaker 1: the country.
Speaker 2: Illinois is forty eighth.
Speaker 1: The average effective property tax is three quarters of a
Speaker 1: percent in Indiana, it's two and a quarter percent in Illinois.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Of course, it's so interesting if you think about various states.
Speaker 4: I mean, there'd be some serious jerrymandering going on, but
Speaker 4: I think most people would be in favor of of it.
Speaker 4: Like I was picturing a chunk of Nebraska. Then you know,
Speaker 4: you go through Iowa and get the college towns in
Speaker 4: Des Moines on into Illinois and then you know their
Speaker 4: blue parts. Put those together, then surround it with other
Speaker 4: stuff that and everybody'd probably be happy. The progressions will
Speaker 4: be like, yeah, good, get rid of you corn pone,
Speaker 4: Trump voting weirdos and the rest of us would be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: go ahead, enjoy your trains, bathrooms, and knock yourself out
Speaker 4: with your high taxes.
Speaker 1: I've advocated many times, Yeah, you can have twenty five states.
Speaker 1: Will take twenty five states, will run them the way
Speaker 1: we want to, You run years the way you want to,
Speaker 1: and then after ten years we'll get together and see
Speaker 1: who's doing better. But a number of people pointed out
Speaker 1: people are kind of already doing that, fellas they're moving
Speaker 1: that they're self segregating. But anyway, so there are a
Speaker 1: bunch of statistics by which, by any measure, Indiana's a
Speaker 1: way better option. Mister Pritzker writes, I think this is
Speaker 1: the Journal editorial board is essentially claiming the superiority of
Speaker 1: his welfare state public union governance model, but fewer people
Speaker 1: are buying it. Since twenty twenty thirty three Illinois counties
Speaker 1: have voted to consider breaking away from the state they're
Speaker 1: alienated from. The progressive governance of Springfield and which is
Speaker 1: owned by Chicago, saw the third highest out migration people
Speaker 1: in the country while Indiana was gaining thirty thousand residents,
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 2: Illinois is also facing there.
Speaker 1: It is the Illinois fiscal mess is so great that
Speaker 1: pressure will keep building to raise taxes again and again.
Speaker 2: Pension debt was.
Speaker 1: One hundred and forty four billion dollars last year, up
Speaker 1: from sixteen billion dollars in the year two thousand, So
Speaker 1: in twenty four years it went from sixteen billion to
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty four billion, and JB.
Speaker 2: Prisker says this is a stunt.
Speaker 1: The other headline out of Illinois that only Illinoisans would
Speaker 1: care about is one of the greatest, most evil political
Speaker 1: mobsters in the history of the United States. Michael Madigan,
Speaker 1: legendarily grimy Illinois House Speaker and all powerful master of
Speaker 1: a one party state, has finally been convicted by a
Speaker 1: federal jury of ten felonies.
Speaker 2: So he is gone from Illinois.
Speaker 1: Whether there's any saving that poor beleaguered land of Lincoln,
Speaker 1: I don't know. But that's always easier to secede from
Speaker 1: your crappy, crappy state.
Speaker 2: No kidding.
Speaker 4: That whole pension bomb thing, and a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: different states or big cities across the country.
Speaker 2: That's going to come do someday. Oh yes, suoni ish
Speaker 2: In cal Unicornia, for instance
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