WEBVTT - There's All Kinds Of Hinky S Going On

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, arm Strong and Getty and

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<v Speaker 2>he Armstrong and Eddy. Elon called me.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, you know they're trying to drive us apart.

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<v Speaker 3>I said absolutely. Now, they said, we are breaking as

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump has seated control of the presidency to Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 3>President Musk will be attending a cabinet meeting at eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>And I say, it's just so obvious. They're so bad

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<v Speaker 3>at it. I used to think they were good at it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're actually bad at it. Because if they were good

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<v Speaker 3>at it, I'd never be president.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to find somebody smarter than him.

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<v Speaker 2>I searched all over. I just couldn't do it. I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't really try it harder. I couldn't find anyone smaller. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So we had it. We had it for the country.

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<v Speaker 2>But they settled, and we settled on this.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks having me, Donald Trump and Elon Musk their first

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<v Speaker 4>interview together, I believe on Hannity on Fox last night.

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<v Speaker 4>They do have a bit of a bromance going, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And we've.

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<v Speaker 1>All seen the just ham handed efforts of the mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>media to like drive a wedge, and I wondered how

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<v Speaker 1>that was going. I'm glad to hear they're snickering at

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<v Speaker 1>it so obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's hear a little more of this.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I respect him, I've always respected him.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I never knew that he was right on certain things,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm usually pretty good at this stuff. He did starlink,

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<v Speaker 3>He did things that was so advanced and nobody knew

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<v Speaker 3>what the hell they were. We watched the rocket chips,

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<v Speaker 3>so we watch Tesler. I think you know, something that

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<v Speaker 3>had an effect on me was when I saw the

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<v Speaker 3>rocket ship come back and get grabbed, like you grab

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<v Speaker 3>a beautiful little baby.

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<v Speaker 2>You grab your baby. It just I've never seen everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a little more on that front.

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<v Speaker 3>When he talks about the executive orders, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>probably true for all precedents. You write an executive order

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<v Speaker 3>and you think it's done. You said to out, it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't get done, it doesn't get implemented, they don't implement it.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as he said that, I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>You write a beautiful executive and you sign it and

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<v Speaker 3>you assume it's going to be done.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>What he does is he takes it and with his

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<v Speaker 3>hundred geniuses. He's got some very brilliant young people working

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<v Speaker 3>for him that dress much worse than him.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, they dressing just T shirts. You wouldn't you wouldn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>They have one hundred and eighty ideas. So he's your

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<v Speaker 2>tech support. Actually, he gets it done. He's a leader.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets it done.

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<v Speaker 3>So when he said that, he said, you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>you sign these executive orders, a lot of them don't

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<v Speaker 3>get done, and maybe the most important ones. And he

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<v Speaker 3>would take that executive order that I'd sign and he

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<v Speaker 3>would have those people go to whatever agency it was, when.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you doing it? Get it done? Get it done?

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<v Speaker 2>And some guy that maybe didn't want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>It, all of a sudden he's signing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just does.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was interesting because that's the thing our

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<v Speaker 4>friend Tim Sander is always talking about. You know, you

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<v Speaker 4>they pass a bill or in this case it's executive orders,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, no bad things. Then it goes off into

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<v Speaker 4>the department or the agency or whatever, and they do

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<v Speaker 4>whatever the hell they want. Yeah, and nobody follows up

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<v Speaker 4>on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've always thought the term deep state was just

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<v Speaker 1>too scary movie conspiracy theory sounding, even though it's accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always preferred the term the permanent bureaucracy because it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more plain spoken. And the permanent bureaucracy swings

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<v Speaker 1>way left because it is in large measure you unionized

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<v Speaker 1>government employees, and they do what they want. They can

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<v Speaker 1>slow walk you, they can lose the file, they cannot

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<v Speaker 1>return the call. They can uh, well, sorry, we worded

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<v Speaker 1>that wrong when we put out funding. But there are

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand ways that the bureaucracy, the permanent bureaucracy Steymy's

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<v Speaker 1>cabinet officials and even the president.

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<v Speaker 4>I like the fact that Elon Musk, as wealthy as

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<v Speaker 4>he is, cares about taxpayer money for the average person,

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<v Speaker 4>like he talks about here.

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<v Speaker 5>In order to save taxpayer money, it comes down to

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<v Speaker 5>two things, competence and caring. And when the President was

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<v Speaker 5>shown the outrageous bill for the new Air Force one

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<v Speaker 5>and then negotiated it down, if the President had not

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<v Speaker 5>applied competence in caring, the price would have been fifty

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<v Speaker 5>percent higher, literally fifty percent higher. The president cared the

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<v Speaker 5>president's competent, the price was not fifty percent higher. As

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<v Speaker 5>a result, and so when you add more competence and caring,

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<v Speaker 5>you get a better deal for the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the average.

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<v Speaker 5>Taxpaying Americans should be mad as hell because their tax

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<v Speaker 5>money is being I'm early spent.

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<v Speaker 4>There aren't many people, especially people that have lived their

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<v Speaker 4>lives in government, who think about how taxpayer money is

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<v Speaker 4>spent at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Or to the contrary of what he was describing, they

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<v Speaker 1>want more so they can hand out more to enhance

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<v Speaker 1>their own power. The idea of cutting spending is abhorrent,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've said many times on many themes, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>the bullet train in California or the green energy scam

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<v Speaker 1>of grants. The point is handing out the money. The

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<v Speaker 1>program is an excuse. The point is to spend the money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how you get to where you don't

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<v Speaker 4>care about people's tax money.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>The people I run around with, and you tend to

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<v Speaker 4>run around with people like yourself. Mostly your whole life

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<v Speaker 4>is just you know, you get your first real paycheck,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like how much gets taken out.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you find and then what's it going to?

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<v Speaker 1>This What we're explaining is the reason why you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have severely restricted government. If it gets big and bloated,

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<v Speaker 1>it will steal and waste, because that is how human

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<v Speaker 1>beings act every single time. The it's it's not odd

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<v Speaker 1>or surprising that politicians don't care about what did he say,

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<v Speaker 1>competence and caring. It's because they're out to achieve the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that they're not good at it, it's that

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to do the opposite. That would be my

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<v Speaker 1>only quibble with with Elon. Now, there are some, certainly

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<v Speaker 1>you who are are responsible and care about taxpayer money,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Bit of a niche. I think in DC, Trump did

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of praising Elon. Here's Elon praising Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I think President Trump is a good man

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<v Speaker 5>and he's you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I said, that's the way he said that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's something I.

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<v Speaker 5>Said that it really is, you know, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>the President has been so unfailure attacked in the media.

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<v Speaker 2>It's truly outrageous.

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<v Speaker 5>And I've spent at this point spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>time with president and not once have I seen him

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<v Speaker 5>something that was mean or cruel or or wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>That on that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So according to the Doge guys, they found four point

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<v Speaker 1>seven trillion dollars in treasury payments on untraceable budget lines

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<v Speaker 1>with a code. Well, in the federal government, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>this Treasury Access symbol, which is a code you put

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<v Speaker 1>on the expenditure to show what kind of expenditure is

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<v Speaker 1>and where it's going.

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<v Speaker 2>And they said quote in the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>The TAS field was optional for about four point seven

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars in payments and was often left blank, making

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<v Speaker 1>traceability almost impossible. They posted on X as of Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>this is now required field. I'm sorry. I meant to

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<v Speaker 1>say Twitter. I refuse to say X. I will never

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<v Speaker 1>say X again unless I slip up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Twitter. That's a good hill to die on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to go anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>This will increase insight into where money's actually going.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been a handful of things that they've said,

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<v Speaker 1>like the fifty million dollars in condoms and gods that

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<v Speaker 1>that's not true, and the Politico subscription thing. Sorry, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>that was completely misunderstood. That was not what it was

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<v Speaker 1>portrayed to be. It was actually pretty legitimate.

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<v Speaker 4>The condoms of the Tally Band's true, isn't it? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>It was part of a big package of aid to

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<v Speaker 1>the country, and some of it was spent on condoms,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, I could get into the details,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of the headlines that get hot online

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<v Speaker 1>are grossly oversimplified.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually Elon walked back the millions of dollars of

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<v Speaker 2>condoms in Gazi.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, yeah, I just got that wrong. Sorry, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fine, that's going to happen. I'm not there are

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<v Speaker 1>some people are using that as an indictment of the

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<v Speaker 1>entire effort, but they're the ones in on the scam,

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<v Speaker 1>so they'll do anything they can to derail it anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. My point was this four point seven trillion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in untraceable money. I want to stay with this

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<v Speaker 1>because it sounds like too perfect to be true, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's even close to true that they're I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not impossible.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember in California, it was a big story in California,

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<v Speaker 4>the billions of dollars we've spent on the homeless problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody looked into you know, how it's doing, where it's

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<v Speaker 4>going impossible. Nobody was keeping track of any results with

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<v Speaker 4>that money at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only did they not know what the results were.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't even an mechanism to check.

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<v Speaker 4>There wasn't nobody drew up a the way we would

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<v Speaker 4>measure results and check back in six months.

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<v Speaker 2>There just wasn't one naving well.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And if cal Unicornia, which is a nation, if

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<v Speaker 1>you will, of roughly forty million people to get in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, is he regularly here exactly could get that

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<v Speaker 1>corrupted off track? Well, it's certainly possible that in the

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<v Speaker 1>deep dark recesses of the Treasury there's all sorts.

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<v Speaker 2>Of hinky as going on.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'll believe that AI is really gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be something is when I don't have to every single day,

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes multiple times a day, type in my email address

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<v Speaker 4>or phone number or home address or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>How is there not some sort of AI system on

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<v Speaker 4>everything I use that fills all that in so I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not still doing it with my thumbs.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's crazy. I think about that every time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, really, how is it?

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<v Speaker 4>How am I once again filling out my address for anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And there are enough systems and websites and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of it that have auto fill. When you're run into

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<v Speaker 1>one that doesn't, it's like, what is this the eighteenth century?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course that'll you know, probably enable scammers to scam.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know that's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't you think that AI's got a way around that

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<v Speaker 4>or some way to fill in my phone number and

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<v Speaker 4>all that stuff that I do a million times a year,

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<v Speaker 4>sure without putting it out there for that Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they can't conquer that, unplug the internet, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not good enough at it, right, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I think your prince eyeball, Grundle print, whatever, it doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>just some way to positively identify Grundle print.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not touching your keyboard.

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<v Speaker 4>Need a gun print to get into the building. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you need to put that lower. I can't get that

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<v Speaker 4>up my grundle up that high.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that was that was the character in Harry Potter

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<v Speaker 1>Grundle Print. He was the dark arts teacher.

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome, as I recall, Uh, we got a lot more

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<v Speaker 4>on the way, stay here, Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 2>And so who is in charge of DOGE?

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<v Speaker 7>The President of the United States, he's the administrator of DOGE. No,

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<v Speaker 7>the DOGE is the what was formerly US Digital Services.

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<v Speaker 7>It's an agency of the federal government that reports into

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<v Speaker 7>the Office of the Executive Office of the President, which

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<v Speaker 7>reports to the President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a short clip of a longer exchange in

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<v Speaker 1>which Abudan Costella, like Brianna Keeler simpleton CNN.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, the guest was involved with the pols, what polls?

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them?

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<v Speaker 4>All of them I like, are actually uh just as

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<v Speaker 4>a presence on CNN seems like a last person.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even remember where to find CNN.

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<v Speaker 1>Like most Americans, it's dead to me anyway. But the

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<v Speaker 1>current campaign among the media is who's even a charge dog?

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<v Speaker 1>It's accountable to no one, only to itself. I mean, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're trying to deal with, is unaccountable only

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<v Speaker 1>to its you lying at it.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris extra hilarious, of course, since all of the media

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<v Speaker 4>outside of Fox didn't ask those questions for the last

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<v Speaker 4>four years when somebody was running the country, the foreign policy,

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<v Speaker 4>the domestic policy, everything, because the president's mind was shot

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<v Speaker 4>and you weren't asking those questions of who's running things?

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<v Speaker 2>Then you read my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that it's somewhat unclear, in fact, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not at all unclear, but we're pretending that it's somewhat unclear.

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<v Speaker 1>That this new little agency that's trying to rain and spending.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it's not clear who's a charge all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a sudden, that's the crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole effing country was run by nobody knows for

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<v Speaker 1>the last at least a couple of years, and you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have any interest in asking that question, Brianna Phony.

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<v Speaker 1>Final thought on doge. As we mentioned before, Elon was

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<v Speaker 1>toying with the idea of as they identified just enormous

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<v Speaker 1>areas of fraud and waste, that they eliminate and save

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<v Speaker 1>billions and billions and billions of dollars. They ought to

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<v Speaker 1>carve off a check to the American taxpayer, give them, say,

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars of their tax money back. Yes, because

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<v Speaker 1>we've saved so much. And it occurred to me, with

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<v Speaker 1>the help of one of Josiah and Utah brilliant listener,

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<v Speaker 1>that if you were to carve off, like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five cents thirty five cents of every dollar they

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<v Speaker 1>save and return it to the taxpayer, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>other two thirds of it just eliminate from the budget

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, the popularity of doge would be

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<v Speaker 1>a perpetual motion machine. The more they cut, the more

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<v Speaker 1>people would love it. It could be the best idea

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of politics.

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<v Speaker 4>Five thousand dollars. Check, I'm off to the Indian casino

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<v Speaker 4>read twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on now, well tis they're on? How much time

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<v Speaker 2>I got, Mike, I'm trying to decide to would do

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<v Speaker 2>this here or not? Pens whether you keep eating poorly?

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<v Speaker 2>I've got three minutes here.

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<v Speaker 4>So Trump just tweeted out, uh oh, this is after

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday where he blamed Ukraine for starting the war, which

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Trump a few minutes ago. Think of it.

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<v Speaker 4>A modestly successful comedian, Vladimer Zelenski talked to the United

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<v Speaker 4>States of America into spending three hundred and fifty billion

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<v Speaker 4>dollars to go into a war that couldn't be won,

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<v Speaker 4>that never had to start, but a war that he

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<v Speaker 4>without the US and Trump will never be able to settle.

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<v Speaker 4>The United Sates States has spent two hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 4>more than Europe, and Europe's money is guaranteed, while the

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<v Speaker 4>United States will get nothing back. Why didn't sleepy Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Biden demand equalization? In that this war is far more

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<v Speaker 4>important to Europe than it is to us. We have

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<v Speaker 4>a big, beautiful ocean at separation. On top of this,

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<v Speaker 4>Zelensky admits that half of the money we sent him

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<v Speaker 4>is missing. He refuses to have elections, is very low

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<v Speaker 4>in Ukrainian polls, and the only thing he was good

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<v Speaker 4>at was playing Biden like a fiddle. He's a dictator

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<v Speaker 4>without elections. Zelensky better move fast, and he's not going

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<v Speaker 4>to have a country left. In the meantime, we are

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<v Speaker 4>successfully no negotiating an end.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the war. Blah blah blah, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>Zelensky probably wants to keep the gravy train going. I

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<v Speaker 4>love Ukraine, but Lezinsky has done Zelensky has done a

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<v Speaker 4>terrible job. His country is shattered and millions have unnecessarily died,

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<v Speaker 4>and so it continues. That's uh horrible, I know, shocking.

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<v Speaker 4>I know people that believe that. I think you're unbelievably wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>that this is some sort of for profit scheme that

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<v Speaker 4>Zelensky has dreamed up and he's a dictator and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's a hero and a patriot who risked

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<v Speaker 4>his own life and his family's life to stay there

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<v Speaker 4>and try to defend his country in the face of

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<v Speaker 4>the worst invasion since.

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler right, and he was freely elected. Yeah, I if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be brutally honest about Trump, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he has a philosophy of geopolitics other than America first.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes I think he doesn't understand that it is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely in America's long term interest materially to enforce and

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<v Speaker 1>preserve the norms of you know, international relations that of

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<v Speaker 1>his existed post World War Two.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he is way too cavalier about throwing that away.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when the world order is gone, we'll miss it.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll miss it a lot because it benefits us greatly.

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<v Speaker 1>And everything Doze is doing right could be washed away

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<v Speaker 1>about the tides.

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<v Speaker 4>Of chaos anyway, That's Trump's latest tweet. You got any comment?

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<v Speaker 4>Four one, five, two nine five kftc Armstrong and.

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<v Speaker 3>Getdy hy by mine dud's cuss the sheet over here, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I coup over that huse there?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>And that's an invite to a party. On February fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 4>I open the.

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<v Speaker 6>Door and it is our like eighty five year old

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<v Speaker 6>neighbor who is truly like such a sweetheart, and he

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<v Speaker 6>gives me a little invitation and it says a celebration

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<v Speaker 6>of winter four pm until the cops arrive.

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<v Speaker 2>Until the cops arrived, he's literally eighty five.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll only bring a smile. Frisbyp to his email and

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<v Speaker 6>he gave his phone number.

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<v Speaker 4>Love Doug, Ah, your eighty five year old neighbor shows

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<v Speaker 4>up with a party invitation. Party starts at four and

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<v Speaker 4>goes until the cops arrive. Wow, that's fantastic. Of course

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<v Speaker 4>you get over there and it turns out he's got

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<v Speaker 4>some sort of breaking bad meth lab thing going are something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I found that I have more questions than answers

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<v Speaker 1>about that clip.

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<v Speaker 2>So here you go.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see if we can put this to

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<v Speaker 4>rest once and for all here and I you'd be

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<v Speaker 4>better to present this story than me, because you have

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<v Speaker 4>studied it way more than I have. But I think

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<v Speaker 4>if I present it and you like comment on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It might work better. And this and this is s Low.

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<v Speaker 2>This is around free.

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<v Speaker 4>Speech and what you know. Kicking off the conversation yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>with JD. Vance lecturing Europe about letting free speech go

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<v Speaker 4>and the ridiculous CBS over the weekend, Margaret Brennan with

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<v Speaker 4>they weaponized free speech in Germany for a holocaust?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about, lady?

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<v Speaker 1>And then one of the stupidest sentences ever uttered in

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<v Speaker 1>the English lineup, It really.

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<v Speaker 4>Is, And then sixty minutes cheering on Germany for breaking

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<v Speaker 4>down people's doors and coming in with guns drawn, for

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<v Speaker 4>inappropriate cartoons and whatnot. Anyway, this is the whole conversation,

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<v Speaker 4>because I was saying this up until a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, not having any idea what I was talking about,

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<v Speaker 4>which is true of a lot of things that I

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<v Speaker 4>talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, you can't yell fire in a crowded

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<v Speaker 2>movie house.

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<v Speaker 4>So to like nail this down without even getting into

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<v Speaker 4>the court case it came from originally and all that

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<v Speaker 4>sort of stuff, which we can do if you want, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think we have to.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, it is I did a deep dive

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<v Speaker 4>on YouTube videos and there's so many great things from fire,

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<v Speaker 4>and various.

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<v Speaker 2>Judges and legal minds across the country into this sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>About the it's impossible to stop the the never. You

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<v Speaker 4>can't bring up free speech without somebody saying, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't yell fire in a crowded movie house.

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<v Speaker 2>You just you can'.

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<v Speaker 4>It's impossible. It's like it's like it's like having weeds

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<v Speaker 4>or something right and they go back or whatever. It's

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<v Speaker 4>worse than that. But the best example I heard of

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<v Speaker 4>it was I think it was a podcast as listened

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<v Speaker 4>to it a couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Weeks ago at Charles CW. Cook, who was really upset

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<v Speaker 2>about this because he said, just just strip all that away.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just get down to the basic. You're in a

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<v Speaker 2>movie house.

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<v Speaker 4>Without any of the other extraneous legal matters if you yell.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, the one word that's always left out

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<v Speaker 4>is you can't falsely yell fire in a crowded movie house.

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<v Speaker 4>But people always say you can't yell fire in a

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<v Speaker 4>crowded movie house. But there's a big difference there. But

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<v Speaker 4>so if you're sitting in a theater you're watching the

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<v Speaker 4>New Captain America, yes and you yell, but yes and

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<v Speaker 4>you yell fire if there's if there's nobody there, it

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<v Speaker 4>makes no difference.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's only a few people there.

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<v Speaker 4>They're gonna look around and think you think there's a fire, honey,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I'll smell of smoke. Guy must know something.

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<v Speaker 4>And you would walk to the exit and nobody hurt

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<v Speaker 4>and nothing would happen, so nobody'd be charged with anything

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<v Speaker 4>if the place is on fire. As I saw one

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<v Speaker 4>legal expert from fire, they're the people that stand up

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<v Speaker 4>for free speech.

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<v Speaker 2>Foundation for individual rights and expression. Correct. Yeah, he's unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>named for this discussion.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, I'm telling you this right now, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>in a theater and it's on fire, it's your duty

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<v Speaker 4>to yell fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you can indeed yell fire in a crowded movie

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<v Speaker 1>house in virtually every circumstance except the one where it's

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<v Speaker 1>falsely claimed and you cause a panic and people are hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But so if you yell fire.

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<v Speaker 4>The other scenario is you yell fire, there isn't a fire,

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<v Speaker 4>and people rush toward the door and somebody gets knocked down,

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<v Speaker 4>hits their head and dies or something like that. One

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<v Speaker 4>that makes you a complete lunatic to do that, and

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<v Speaker 4>a dangerous society.

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<v Speaker 2>And then two, you're gonna get sued for all kinds.

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<v Speaker 4>Of different things, maybe by the movie theater, maybe by

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<v Speaker 4>an insurance company, all kinds of different things you incited.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you'd call it a riot or there's a variety

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<v Speaker 2>of things. But it's got a civil liability obviously, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with free speech. No, that doesn't even factor

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<v Speaker 2>into the whole thing. No, so what do you think? Yes, Katie,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a very just a question.

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<v Speaker 8>I have never in my life heard it called a

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<v Speaker 8>movie house.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well that that I think that goes himy, that

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<v Speaker 4>goes to the original court case. I think that's why

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<v Speaker 4>they called a movie house. Because it was nineteen thirteen

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was you be and you just me

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<v Speaker 2>being an old man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a bad assumption. But no, in this case. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>that citation was from yesterdayear.

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<v Speaker 4>As a woman once said to me, and I said,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm She said something about me being a boomer, and

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<v Speaker 4>I said, I'm actually Generation XT. She said, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 4>you really scream boomer. Wow, boomers have taken you in

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<v Speaker 4>as an honorary member. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also, well, let's go to the movie house.

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<v Speaker 1>As your clever gen X retort.

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<v Speaker 4>Katie, I was just I was just using the language

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<v Speaker 4>of whichever judge it was that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrote that car citation. Woman, maintain your silence, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Ky theater you can't. You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but it is perfectly legal to shout movie in

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<v Speaker 1>a crowded firehouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 4>That's funny. You gotta do that? Does that ever happen

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<v Speaker 4>to fire people? Ever do that to fire fire people?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably fireman when you're if we're ever doing that again,

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<v Speaker 4>we're at a fire station.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do that. Movy everybody, see if anything happens.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think the sense?

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<v Speaker 4>Even on its face without even getting into the legal principles,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't make any sense. Why do you think it

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<v Speaker 4>continues the way it does? Is always coming up if

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<v Speaker 4>you're discussing free speech, because it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Very handy, easy to understand way to state that there

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<v Speaker 1>are a few exceptions to the right.

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<v Speaker 2>To free speech.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it kind of illustrates that, is there anybody? It's

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<v Speaker 1>past hackwards.

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<v Speaker 4>But but but are there people that think, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I can walk up to my boss and call him

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<v Speaker 4>an a hole because of free speech?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you do, you're either a child or an.

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<v Speaker 1>Idiot, or a former employee or a former employee.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, Well there, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just actually, funnily enough, wrote a bit of an essay

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<v Speaker 1>on this. And yeah, there are all sorts of societal, religious,

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<v Speaker 1>just good manners, practical considerations before you exercise your free speech,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's limited in various ways. It's just not

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<v Speaker 1>limited by the government except in some very specific, very

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<v Speaker 1>very limited ways, which include nothing to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>shouting conflagration in a house of cinema.

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<v Speaker 4>Where I learned years ago. Harry, here's a good one

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<v Speaker 4>for you, Katie, because this was long before you joined

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<v Speaker 4>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I once went to him, Katie, you are allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>speak again now, Oh, thank you, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling a story here, glad it's a little heart

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<v Speaker 4>would be good. This is many, many years ago. This

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<v Speaker 4>is probably twenty some years ago.

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<v Speaker 8>Permission to play from Joe, so she was probably hesitant, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I went to a movie and I didn't like it

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<v Speaker 4>right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was horrible.

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<v Speaker 4>And so this is the middle of the day, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>by myself, and all the theaters were empty. Back when

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<v Speaker 4>I was single and childless. It's hard to believe that

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<v Speaker 4>my life was ever like that, that I was ever

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<v Speaker 4>like at a movie theater by myself in the middle

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<v Speaker 4>of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I was thinking the same thing as you

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<v Speaker 1>were doing that, and I had a house full of

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<v Speaker 1>little kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I can't believe anybody lives like that. That's wild,

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<v Speaker 2>but So I was at.

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<v Speaker 4>This movie and like, fifteen minutes in, this movie is horrible.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna hate this movie. And there was another movie.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd been trying to decide between it and that and

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<v Speaker 4>the theater and that, you know, it's a multiplex. So

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<v Speaker 4>I get out of my seat and I go over

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<v Speaker 4>and watch the other movie, thinking no harm, no foul.

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 4>I paid for a movie, and I watched am movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I stuck around and watched two movies like some people do.

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 4>I just went to a different one.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>I talked about it on the air and found out

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<v Speaker 4>that is a crime. It's an actual crime, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>called defrauding an innkeeper.

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<v Speaker 8>What Yeah, so what you're supposed to waste ten minutes

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<v Speaker 8>to go up and exchange your movie ticket or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but it's defrauding an innkeeper. So I

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<v Speaker 4>tell my kids that all the time. Day I think

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<v Speaker 4>we might be defrauding an innkeeper here, like if we

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<v Speaker 4>sneak a water into the movie instead of paying for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I was at the theater the other day, they

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<v Speaker 4>wanted six dollars for a regular bottle of water. Six

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<v Speaker 4>dollars good, You know what? And I kind of thought,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that's not bad. You're actually just you're just

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<v Speaker 4>charging somebody for it. You're not gonna bring your own.

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<v Speaker 4>How high would we have to mark up the pratices

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<v Speaker 4>on these waters before you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring one in your purse.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna suitcase it like a prisoner before I pay

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<v Speaker 1>six dollars for a bottle of water.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, Joe, why are you walking like that down in

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<v Speaker 2>the movie? Here? Suitcase, give me a minute at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll meet you in the theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, LUs, if a fire breaks out, I can use

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<v Speaker 1>this water to put it out, so nobody shouts defrauding

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<v Speaker 1>an innkeeper.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't sneak in the popcorn the same way. I mean,

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 4>you could bring in popcorn, but it's not as good.

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<v Speaker 4>They're chemically delicious butter that doesn't taste anything like butter,

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 4>is its own unique flavor.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and I love you on an early grave. But

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>it's delicious. Yeah, And they'll butter the popcorn.

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<v Speaker 8>And then now they've got the spouts where you can

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<v Speaker 8>go add more yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen those? Yeah? I have that yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and access to a Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like yeah, it's like an all you can drink

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<v Speaker 4>butter bar that they've got once you buy the first

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<v Speaker 4>tub of popcorn. Last time on into the movie. We

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<v Speaker 4>went to Gladiator two with both my kids. I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get anything, but I got them a couple of things

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<v Speaker 4>and it was forty bucks. So total for the three

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 4>people going in the movie and the concession was almost

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I thought. I told them.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, I'm not doing this again. We are not

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<v Speaker 4>getting concession. I'm not spending forty bucks on concessions. Thanks, time,

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<v Speaker 4>get a big purse.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to sneak of a heata in you know the

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<v Speaker 3>fietas Yeah, oh yeah and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, suit case. Do you sneak things into the theater

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<v Speaker 2>like beers? I used to do that, Katie.

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<v Speaker 8>I will not confirm nor deny since.

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<v Speaker 4>It is defrauding an innkeeper. How old old tiny is

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<v Speaker 4>that at the movie house?

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<v Speaker 2>Like exactly?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, water, Yes, a candy bar if you need a

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<v Speaker 4>candy bar. You don't need a candy bar the movie anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>Mike and.

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<v Speaker 2>I So, yeah, I don't. I don't. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I Ever since I was a little kid, if we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted food, we brought it with us because it's so expensive.

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>And I grew up, as they say, without money, so

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of bringing your own snacks is perfectly reasonable

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't seem odd at all.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, I think they no, and and they don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been anywhere where they seem to police that,

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<v Speaker 4>so they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it bothers them.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree occasionally show up at a restaurant with a nice

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<v Speaker 1>ham and several side dishes, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like being waited upon. But no, I brought my

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<v Speaker 2>I just need your cutlery. I have no forks at

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<v Speaker 2>ho it cannot really.

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<v Speaker 8>I had a great time once when I had I

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<v Speaker 8>don't know where this purse went, and I'm so sad

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<v Speaker 8>about it, but it could hold a bag of wine

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 8>and it had a spout.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh cool, great, great time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to drink beers into the theater and then

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 4>you got you gotta time opening your beer with some

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 4>loud noise on the television. So when Nicholas Kaijuk blows

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 4>something up, that's when you open your beer.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So my home stage, or at least I claim it

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>as my homestate of Illinois, is crumbling and corrupt. And

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>then I moved to California for twenty five years and

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<v Speaker 1>crumbling and crupt.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm beginning to think it's me.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the race to the bottom, Illinois has really

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>got some momentum.

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Share that with you in a moment or two.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's kind of like when Kanye West was talking

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<v Speaker 4>to his wife about the divorce and he said, it's

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 4>not you or me, it's the Jews.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that joke. Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Twice from Saturday Night lives there, I remember staying with us.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other das going through my hoodies because I

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>have too many of them and I don't wear them all,

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, at all?

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 2>In some cases are not.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been wearing the same one hoodie I have for

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<v Speaker 4>everything for a long time, and I really need a

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 4>new hoodie. It's looking a little grungy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. I could do you want three? Or four? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>One that I absolutely refuse to get rid of, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how little I wear. It is my State of

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Jefferson hoodie. The State of Jefferson a movement in northern

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>California and southern Oregon for the good and reasonable folks

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>of those two regions to secede from their crazy ass

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 1>progressive crumbling mobbed up high tax states ruled by Portland

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>in one case and the big coastal cities in California

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>on the other and form their own reasonable state of

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>moderate to conservative politics. I wish it could happen. It

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't, but I was extra excited to read this.

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<v Speaker 1>The state where I grew up, Illinois, secession is in

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<v Speaker 1>the air. This did not get much notice, but in November,

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<v Speaker 1>seven Illinois counties voted to consider seceding.

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<v Speaker 2>I could list the counties, but most of you have

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 2>never heard of them.

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>And six of the seven counties approved the advisory question,

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<v Speaker 1>should we consider seceding from the state of Illinois. Six

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<v Speaker 1>of the seven approved it by more than seventy percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, are they talking about forming their own state or

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<v Speaker 4>joining with a surrounding state, Nebraska or Indiana?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, indeed Indiana, and the House Speaker of Indiana, Todd Hustin, said,

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<v Speaker 1>come on over, You'd be more than welcome. It's it

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>would be very difficult to pull this off. But the

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>child grooming, gender bending nightmare of a governor mobster JB.

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<v Speaker 1>Pritzker called the secession idea stunt and derided Indiana as

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<v Speaker 1>a low wage state that doesn't protect workers, a state

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<v Speaker 1>that does not provide healthcare for people when they're in need,

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>which is all code for they don't mutilate their little

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<v Speaker 1>kids who are momentarily confused about their sex during puberty

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But if you look at the this is

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, the organizations here are little cumbersome. They're a

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>variety of think tanks and business organizations. But the state

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<v Speaker 1>economic outlook for twenty twenty four, Indiana is fifth in

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<v Speaker 1>the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Illinois is forty eighth.

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<v Speaker 1>The average effective property tax is three quarters of a

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<v Speaker 1>percent in Indiana, it's two and a quarter percent in Illinois.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, it's so interesting if you think about various states.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there'd be some serious jerrymandering going on, but

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<v Speaker 4>I think most people would be in favor of of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I was picturing a chunk of Nebraska. Then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you go through Iowa and get the college towns in

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<v Speaker 4>Des Moines on into Illinois and then you know their

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 4>blue parts. Put those together, then surround it with other

0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 4>stuff that and everybody'd probably be happy. The progressions will

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 4>be like, yeah, good, get rid of you corn pone,

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 4>Trump voting weirdos and the rest of us would be like, yeah,

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 4>go ahead, enjoy your trains, bathrooms, and knock yourself out

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<v Speaker 4>with your high taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>I've advocated many times, Yeah, you can have twenty five states.

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<v Speaker 1>Will take twenty five states, will run them the way

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<v Speaker 1>we want to, You run years the way you want to,

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<v Speaker 1>and then after ten years we'll get together and see

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<v Speaker 1>who's doing better. But a number of people pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>people are kind of already doing that, fellas they're moving

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<v Speaker 1>that they're self segregating. But anyway, so there are a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of statistics by which, by any measure, Indiana's a

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<v Speaker 1>way better option. Mister Pritzker writes, I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>the Journal editorial board is essentially claiming the superiority of

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<v Speaker 1>his welfare state public union governance model, but fewer people

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<v Speaker 1>are buying it. Since twenty twenty thirty three Illinois counties

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<v Speaker 1>have voted to consider breaking away from the state they're

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<v Speaker 1>alienated from. The progressive governance of Springfield and which is

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<v Speaker 1>owned by Chicago, saw the third highest out migration people

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<v Speaker 1>in the country while Indiana was gaining thirty thousand residents,

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<v Speaker 1>and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Illinois is also facing there.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the Illinois fiscal mess is so great that

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<v Speaker 1>pressure will keep building to raise taxes again and again.

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<v Speaker 2>Pension debt was.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred and forty four billion dollars last year, up

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<v Speaker 1>from sixteen billion dollars in the year two thousand, So

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty four years it went from sixteen billion to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and forty four billion, and JB.

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<v Speaker 2>Prisker says this is a stunt.

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<v Speaker 1>The other headline out of Illinois that only Illinoisans would

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<v Speaker 1>care about is one of the greatest, most evil political

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<v Speaker 1>mobsters in the history of the United States. Michael Madigan,

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<v Speaker 1>legendarily grimy Illinois House Speaker and all powerful master of

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<v Speaker 1>a one party state, has finally been convicted by a

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<v Speaker 1>federal jury of ten felonies.

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<v Speaker 2>So he is gone from Illinois.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether there's any saving that poor beleaguered land of Lincoln,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But that's always easier to secede from

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<v Speaker 1>your crappy, crappy state.

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<v Speaker 2>No kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>That whole pension bomb thing, and a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>different states or big cities across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to come do someday. Oh yes, suoni ish

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<v Speaker 2>In cal Unicornia, for instance

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