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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, arm Strong and Getty and

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Speaker 2: he Armstrong and Eddy. Elon called me.

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Speaker 3: He said, you know they're trying to drive us apart.

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Speaker 3: I said absolutely. Now, they said, we are breaking as

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump has seated control of the presidency to Elon Musk.

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Speaker 3: President Musk will be attending a cabinet meeting at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 3: And I say, it's just so obvious. They're so bad

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Speaker 3: at it. I used to think they were good at it.

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Speaker 3: They're actually bad at it. Because if they were good

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Speaker 3: at it, I'd never be president.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to find somebody smarter than him.

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Speaker 2: I searched all over. I just couldn't do it. I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't really try it harder. I couldn't find anyone smaller. Right,

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Speaker 2: So we had it. We had it for the country.

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Speaker 2: But they settled, and we settled on this.

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Speaker 4: Thanks having me, Donald Trump and Elon Musk their first

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Speaker 4: interview together, I believe on Hannity on Fox last night.

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Speaker 4: They do have a bit of a bromance going, right,

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Speaker 4: And we've.

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Speaker 1: All seen the just ham handed efforts of the mainstream

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Speaker 1: media to like drive a wedge, and I wondered how

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Speaker 1: that was going. I'm glad to hear they're snickering at

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Speaker 1: it so obvious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hear a little more of this.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 3: I respect him, I've always respected him.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I never knew that he was right on certain things,

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Speaker 3: and I'm usually pretty good at this stuff. He did starlink,

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Speaker 3: He did things that was so advanced and nobody knew

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Speaker 3: what the hell they were. We watched the rocket chips,

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Speaker 3: so we watch Tesler. I think you know, something that

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Speaker 3: had an effect on me was when I saw the

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Speaker 3: rocket ship come back and get grabbed, like you grab

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Speaker 3: a beautiful little baby.

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Speaker 2: You grab your baby. It just I've never seen everyone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little more on that front.

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Speaker 3: When he talks about the executive orders, and this is

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Speaker 3: probably true for all precedents. You write an executive order

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Speaker 3: and you think it's done. You said to out, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't get done, it doesn't get implemented, they don't implement it.

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Speaker 2: As soon as he said that, I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: You write a beautiful executive and you sign it and

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Speaker 3: you assume it's going to be done.

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Speaker 2: But it's not.

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Speaker 3: What he does is he takes it and with his

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Speaker 3: hundred geniuses. He's got some very brilliant young people working

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Speaker 3: for him that dress much worse than him.

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Speaker 2: Actually, they dressing just T shirts. You wouldn't you wouldn't know.

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Speaker 2: They have one hundred and eighty ideas. So he's your

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Speaker 2: tech support. Actually, he gets it done. He's a leader.

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Speaker 2: He gets it done.

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Speaker 3: So when he said that, he said, you know, when

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Speaker 3: you sign these executive orders, a lot of them don't

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Speaker 3: get done, and maybe the most important ones. And he

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Speaker 3: would take that executive order that I'd sign and he

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Speaker 3: would have those people go to whatever agency it was, when.

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Speaker 2: Are you doing it? Get it done? Get it done?

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Speaker 2: And some guy that maybe didn't want to do.

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Speaker 3: It, all of a sudden he's signing it.

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Speaker 2: Just does.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was interesting because that's the thing our

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Speaker 4: friend Tim Sander is always talking about. You know, you

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Speaker 4: they pass a bill or in this case it's executive orders,

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Speaker 4: you know, no bad things. Then it goes off into

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Speaker 4: the department or the agency or whatever, and they do

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Speaker 4: whatever the hell they want. Yeah, and nobody follows up

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Speaker 4: on it.

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Speaker 1: And I've always thought the term deep state was just

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Speaker 1: too scary movie conspiracy theory sounding, even though it's accurate.

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Speaker 1: I've always preferred the term the permanent bureaucracy because it's

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Speaker 1: you know, more plain spoken. And the permanent bureaucracy swings

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Speaker 1: way left because it is in large measure you unionized

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Speaker 1: government employees, and they do what they want. They can

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Speaker 1: slow walk you, they can lose the file, they cannot

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Speaker 1: return the call. They can uh, well, sorry, we worded

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Speaker 1: that wrong when we put out funding. But there are

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Speaker 1: a thousand ways that the bureaucracy, the permanent bureaucracy Steymy's

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Speaker 1: cabinet officials and even the president.

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Speaker 4: I like the fact that Elon Musk, as wealthy as

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Speaker 4: he is, cares about taxpayer money for the average person,

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Speaker 4: like he talks about here.

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Speaker 5: In order to save taxpayer money, it comes down to

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Speaker 5: two things, competence and caring. And when the President was

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Speaker 5: shown the outrageous bill for the new Air Force one

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Speaker 5: and then negotiated it down, if the President had not

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Speaker 5: applied competence in caring, the price would have been fifty

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Speaker 5: percent higher, literally fifty percent higher. The president cared the

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Speaker 5: president's competent, the price was not fifty percent higher. As

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Speaker 5: a result, and so when you add more competence and caring,

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Speaker 5: you get a better deal for the American people.

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Speaker 2: I think the average.

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Speaker 5: Taxpaying Americans should be mad as hell because their tax

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Speaker 5: money is being I'm early spent.

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Speaker 4: There aren't many people, especially people that have lived their

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Speaker 4: lives in government, who think about how taxpayer money is

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Speaker 4: spent at all.

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Speaker 1: Or to the contrary of what he was describing, they

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Speaker 1: want more so they can hand out more to enhance

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Speaker 1: their own power. The idea of cutting spending is abhorrent,

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Speaker 1: as we've said many times on many themes, whether it's

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Speaker 1: the bullet train in California or the green energy scam

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Speaker 1: of grants. The point is handing out the money. The

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Speaker 1: program is an excuse. The point is to spend the money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you get to where you don't

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Speaker 4: care about people's tax money.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 4: The people I run around with, and you tend to

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Speaker 4: run around with people like yourself. Mostly your whole life

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Speaker 4: is just you know, you get your first real paycheck,

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Speaker 4: it's like how much gets taken out.

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Speaker 2: And then you find and then what's it going to?

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Speaker 1: This What we're explaining is the reason why you have

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Speaker 1: to have severely restricted government. If it gets big and bloated,

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Speaker 1: it will steal and waste, because that is how human

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Speaker 1: beings act every single time. The it's it's not odd

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Speaker 1: or surprising that politicians don't care about what did he say,

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Speaker 1: competence and caring. It's because they're out to achieve the opposite.

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Speaker 1: It's not that they're not good at it, it's that

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Speaker 1: they're trying to do the opposite. That would be my

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Speaker 1: only quibble with with Elon. Now, there are some, certainly

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Speaker 1: you who are are responsible and care about taxpayer money,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's a.

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Speaker 4: Bit of a niche. I think in DC, Trump did

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Speaker 4: a lot of praising Elon. Here's Elon praising Trump.

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Speaker 5: I think I think President Trump is a good man

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Speaker 5: and he's you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I said, that's the way he said that. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's something I.

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Speaker 5: Said that it really is, you know, because I mean,

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Speaker 5: the President has been so unfailure attacked in the media.

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Speaker 2: It's truly outrageous.

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Speaker 5: And I've spent at this point spent a lot of

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Speaker 5: time with president and not once have I seen him

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Speaker 5: something that was mean or cruel or or wrong.

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Speaker 2: That on that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: So according to the Doge guys, they found four point

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Speaker 1: seven trillion dollars in treasury payments on untraceable budget lines

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Speaker 1: with a code. Well, in the federal government, you've got

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Speaker 1: this Treasury Access symbol, which is a code you put

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Speaker 1: on the expenditure to show what kind of expenditure is

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Speaker 1: and where it's going.

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Speaker 2: And they said quote in the federal government.

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Speaker 1: The TAS field was optional for about four point seven

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Speaker 1: trillion dollars in payments and was often left blank, making

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Speaker 1: traceability almost impossible. They posted on X as of Saturday,

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Speaker 1: this is now required field. I'm sorry. I meant to

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Speaker 1: say Twitter. I refuse to say X. I will never

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Speaker 1: say X again unless I slip up.

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Speaker 2: It's Twitter. That's a good hill to die on. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to go anyway.

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Speaker 1: This will increase insight into where money's actually going.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: There have been a handful of things that they've said,

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Speaker 1: like the fifty million dollars in condoms and gods that

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Speaker 1: that's not true, and the Politico subscription thing. Sorry, folks,

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Speaker 1: that was completely misunderstood. That was not what it was

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Speaker 1: portrayed to be. It was actually pretty legitimate.

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Speaker 4: The condoms of the Tally Band's true, isn't it? Well,

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Speaker 4: kind of sort of.

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Speaker 1: It was part of a big package of aid to

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Speaker 1: the country, and some of it was spent on condoms,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, I could get into the details,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of the headlines that get hot online

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Speaker 1: are grossly oversimplified.

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Speaker 2: And actually Elon walked back the millions of dollars of

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Speaker 2: condoms in Gazi.

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Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I just got that wrong. Sorry, which

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Speaker 1: is fine, that's going to happen. I'm not there are

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Speaker 1: some people are using that as an indictment of the

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Speaker 1: entire effort, but they're the ones in on the scam,

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Speaker 1: so they'll do anything they can to derail it anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's right. My point was this four point seven trillion

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Speaker 1: dollars in untraceable money. I want to stay with this

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Speaker 1: because it sounds like too perfect to be true, right,

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Speaker 1: But if it's even close to true that they're I mean.

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Speaker 2: That's not impossible.

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Speaker 4: Remember in California, it was a big story in California,

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Speaker 4: the billions of dollars we've spent on the homeless problem.

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Speaker 4: Somebody looked into you know, how it's doing, where it's

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Speaker 4: going impossible. Nobody was keeping track of any results with

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Speaker 4: that money at all.

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Speaker 1: Not only did they not know what the results were.

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Speaker 1: There isn't even an mechanism to check.

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Speaker 4: There wasn't nobody drew up a the way we would

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Speaker 2: There just wasn't one naving well.

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Speaker 1: Right, And if cal Unicornia, which is a nation, if

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Speaker 1: the world, is he regularly here exactly could get that

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Speaker 1: corrupted off track? Well, it's certainly possible that in the

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Speaker 1: deep dark recesses of the Treasury there's all sorts.

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Speaker 2: Of hinky as going on.

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Speaker 2: I got, Mike, I'm trying to decide to would do

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Speaker 4: A modestly successful comedian, Vladimer Zelenski talked to the United

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Speaker 2: Of the war. Blah blah blah, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: Of chaos anyway, That's Trump's latest tweet. You got any comment?

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Speaker 4: Four one, five, two nine five kftc Armstrong and.

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Speaker 3: Getdy hy by mine dud's cuss the sheet over here, right,

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Speaker 4: And that's an invite to a party. On February fifteenth,

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Speaker 4: Love Doug, Ah, your eighty five year old neighbor shows

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Speaker 4: goes until the cops arrive. Wow, that's fantastic. Of course

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Speaker 4: rest once and for all here and I you'd be

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Speaker 4: better to present this story than me, because you have

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Speaker 2: It might work better. And this and this is s Low.

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Speaker 4: Speech and what you know. Kicking off the conversation yesterday

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Speaker 4: About the it's impossible to stop the the never. You

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Speaker 4: you can't yell fire in a crowded movie house.

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Speaker 2: You just you can'.

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Speaker 4: It's impossible. It's like it's like it's like having weeds

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Speaker 2: Weeks ago at Charles CW. Cook, who was really upset

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Speaker 2: Let's just get down to the basic. You're in a

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Speaker 4: Without any of the other extraneous legal matters if you yell.

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Speaker 4: But people always say you can't yell fire in a

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'll smell of smoke. Guy must know something.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you can indeed yell fire in a crowded movie

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Speaker 1: house in virtually every circumstance except the one where it's

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Speaker 1: falsely claimed and you cause a panic and people are hurt.

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Speaker 2: Right, But so if you yell fire.

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Speaker 4: The other scenario is you yell fire, there isn't a fire,

447
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Speaker 4: and people rush toward the door and somebody gets knocked down,

448
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Speaker 4: hits their head and dies or something like that. One

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Speaker 4: that makes you a complete lunatic to do that, and

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Speaker 4: a dangerous society.

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Speaker 2: And then two, you're gonna get sued for all kinds.

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Speaker 4: Of different things, maybe by the movie theater, maybe by

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Speaker 4: an insurance company, all kinds of different things you incited.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you'd call it a riot or there's a variety

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Speaker 2: of things. But it's got a civil liability obviously, nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with free speech. No, that doesn't even factor

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Speaker 2: into the whole thing. No, so what do you think? Yes, Katie,

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Speaker 2: I have a very just a question.

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Speaker 8: I have never in my life heard it called a

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Speaker 8: movie house.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well that that I think that goes himy, that

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Speaker 4: goes to the original court case. I think that's why

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Speaker 4: they called a movie house. Because it was nineteen thirteen

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Speaker 4: or whatever it was.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was you be and you just me

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Speaker 2: being an old man.

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Speaker 1: That's not a bad assumption. But no, in this case. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: that citation was from yesterdayear.

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Speaker 4: As a woman once said to me, and I said,

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Speaker 4: I'm She said something about me being a boomer, and

471
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Speaker 4: I said, I'm actually Generation XT. She said, yeah, but

472
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Speaker 4: you really scream boomer. Wow, boomers have taken you in

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Speaker 4: as an honorary member. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's also, well, let's go to the movie house.

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Speaker 1: As your clever gen X retort.

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Speaker 4: Katie, I was just I was just using the language

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Speaker 4: of whichever judge it was that.

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Speaker 1: Wrote that car citation. Woman, maintain your silence, all right.

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Speaker 2: Ky theater you can't. You can't.

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Speaker 1: So, but it is perfectly legal to shout movie in

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Speaker 1: a crowded firehouse.

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Speaker 2: Keep that in mind.

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Speaker 4: That's funny. You gotta do that? Does that ever happen

484
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Speaker 4: to fire people? Ever do that to fire fire people?

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Speaker 4: Probably fireman when you're if we're ever doing that again,

486
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Speaker 4: we're at a fire station.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do that. Movy everybody, see if anything happens.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think the sense?

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Speaker 4: Even on its face without even getting into the legal principles,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't make any sense. Why do you think it

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Speaker 4: continues the way it does? Is always coming up if

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Speaker 4: you're discussing free speech, because it's a.

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Speaker 1: Very handy, easy to understand way to state that there

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Speaker 1: are a few exceptions to the right.

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Speaker 2: To free speech.

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Speaker 1: That's it kind of illustrates that, is there anybody? It's

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Speaker 1: past hackwards.

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Speaker 4: But but but are there people that think, you know,

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Speaker 4: I can walk up to my boss and call him

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Speaker 4: an a hole because of free speech?

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Speaker 2: Well, if you do, you're either a child or an.

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Speaker 1: Idiot, or a former employee or a former employee.

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Speaker 2: Right right, Well there, I.

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Speaker 1: Just actually, funnily enough, wrote a bit of an essay

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Speaker 1: on this. And yeah, there are all sorts of societal, religious,

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Speaker 1: just good manners, practical considerations before you exercise your free speech,

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Speaker 1: and so it's limited in various ways. It's just not

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Speaker 1: limited by the government except in some very specific, very

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Speaker 1: very limited ways, which include nothing to do with the

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Speaker 1: shouting conflagration in a house of cinema.

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Speaker 4: Where I learned years ago. Harry, here's a good one

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Speaker 4: for you, Katie, because this was long before you joined

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Speaker 4: the show.

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Speaker 1: I once went to him, Katie, you are allowed to

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Speaker 1: speak again now, Oh, thank you, appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling a story here, glad it's a little heart

517
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Speaker 4: would be good. This is many, many years ago. This

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Speaker 4: is probably twenty some years ago.

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Speaker 8: Permission to play from Joe, so she was probably hesitant, right.

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Speaker 4: I went to a movie and I didn't like it

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Speaker 4: right off the bat.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was horrible.

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Speaker 4: And so this is the middle of the day, I'm

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Speaker 4: by myself, and all the theaters were empty. Back when

525
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Speaker 4: I was single and childless. It's hard to believe that

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Speaker 4: my life was ever like that, that I was ever

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Speaker 4: like at a movie theater by myself in the middle

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Speaker 4: of the day.

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Speaker 1: I just I was thinking the same thing as you

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Speaker 1: were doing that, and I had a house full of

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Speaker 1: little kids.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I can't believe anybody lives like that. That's wild,

533
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Speaker 2: but So I was at.

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Speaker 4: This movie and like, fifteen minutes in, this movie is horrible.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna hate this movie. And there was another movie.

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Speaker 4: I'd been trying to decide between it and that and

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Speaker 4: the theater and that, you know, it's a multiplex. So

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Speaker 4: I get out of my seat and I go over

539
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Speaker 4: and watch the other movie, thinking no harm, no foul.

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Speaker 4: I paid for a movie, and I watched am movie.

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Speaker 2: Right, it wasn't.

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Speaker 4: I stuck around and watched two movies like some people do.

543
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Speaker 4: I just went to a different one.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

545
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Speaker 4: I talked about it on the air and found out

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Speaker 4: that is a crime. It's an actual crime, and it's

547
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Speaker 4: called defrauding an innkeeper.

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Speaker 8: What Yeah, so what you're supposed to waste ten minutes

549
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Speaker 8: to go up and exchange your movie ticket or something.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's defrauding an innkeeper. So I

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Speaker 4: tell my kids that all the time. Day I think

552
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Speaker 4: we might be defrauding an innkeeper here, like if we

553
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Speaker 4: sneak a water into the movie instead of paying for it.

554
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Speaker 4: Because I was at the theater the other day, they

555
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Speaker 4: wanted six dollars for a regular bottle of water. Six

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Speaker 4: dollars good, You know what? And I kind of thought,

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Speaker 4: you know, that's not bad. You're actually just you're just

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Speaker 4: charging somebody for it. You're not gonna bring your own.

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Speaker 4: How high would we have to mark up the pratices

560
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Speaker 4: on these waters before you.

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Speaker 2: Bring one in your purse.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna suitcase it like a prisoner before I pay

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Speaker 1: six dollars for a bottle of water.

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Speaker 2: Please, Joe, why are you walking like that down in

565
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Speaker 2: the movie? Here? Suitcase, give me a minute at all.

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Speaker 2: I'll meet you in the theater.

567
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Speaker 1: Oh, LUs, if a fire breaks out, I can use

568
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Speaker 1: this water to put it out, so nobody shouts defrauding

569
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Speaker 1: an innkeeper.

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Speaker 4: You can't sneak in the popcorn the same way. I mean,

571
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Speaker 4: you could bring in popcorn, but it's not as good.

572
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 4: They're chemically delicious butter that doesn't taste anything like butter,

573
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Speaker 4: is its own unique flavor.

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Speaker 2: Oh and I love you on an early grave. But

575
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Speaker 2: it's delicious. Yeah, And they'll butter the popcorn.

576
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Speaker 8: And then now they've got the spouts where you can

577
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Speaker 8: go add more yourself.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen those? Yeah? I have that yeah, yeah,

579
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Speaker 2: and access to a Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's like yeah, it's like an all you can drink

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Speaker 4: butter bar that they've got once you buy the first

582
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Speaker 4: tub of popcorn. Last time on into the movie. We

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Speaker 4: went to Gladiator two with both my kids. I didn't

584
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Speaker 4: get anything, but I got them a couple of things

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Speaker 4: and it was forty bucks. So total for the three

586
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Speaker 4: people going in the movie and the concession was almost

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Speaker 4: one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I thought. I told them.

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Speaker 4: I said, I'm not doing this again. We are not

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Speaker 4: getting concession. I'm not spending forty bucks on concessions. Thanks, time,

591
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Speaker 4: get a big purse.

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Speaker 3: I tried to sneak of a heata in you know the

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Speaker 3: fietas Yeah, oh yeah and everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, suit case. Do you sneak things into the theater

595
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Speaker 2: like beers? I used to do that, Katie.

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Speaker 8: I will not confirm nor deny since.

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Speaker 4: It is defrauding an innkeeper. How old old tiny is

598
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Speaker 4: that at the movie house?

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Speaker 2: Like exactly?

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Speaker 4: Okay, water, Yes, a candy bar if you need a

601
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Speaker 4: candy bar. You don't need a candy bar the movie anyway,

602
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Speaker 4: Mike and.

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Speaker 2: I So, yeah, I don't. I don't. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I Ever since I was a little kid, if we

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Speaker 1: wanted food, we brought it with us because it's so expensive.

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Speaker 1: And I grew up, as they say, without money, so

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Speaker 1: the idea of bringing your own snacks is perfectly reasonable

608
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Speaker 1: to me.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem odd at all.

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Speaker 4: No, No, I think they no, and and they don't.

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Speaker 4: I've never been anywhere where they seem to police that,

612
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Speaker 4: so they're not.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it bothers them.

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Speaker 1: Agree occasionally show up at a restaurant with a nice

615
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Speaker 1: ham and several side dishes, and I.

616
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Speaker 2: Just like being waited upon. But no, I brought my

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Speaker 2: I just need your cutlery. I have no forks at

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Speaker 2: ho it cannot really.

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Speaker 8: I had a great time once when I had I

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Speaker 8: don't know where this purse went, and I'm so sad

621
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Speaker 8: about it, but it could hold a bag of wine

622
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Speaker 8: and it had a spout.

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Speaker 2: Oh cool, great, great time. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I used to drink beers into the theater and then

625
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Speaker 4: you got you gotta time opening your beer with some

626
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Speaker 4: loud noise on the television. So when Nicholas Kaijuk blows

627
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Speaker 4: something up, that's when you open your beer.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So my home stage, or at least I claim it

630
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Speaker 1: as my homestate of Illinois, is crumbling and corrupt. And

631
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Speaker 1: then I moved to California for twenty five years and

632
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Speaker 1: crumbling and crupt.

633
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Speaker 2: I'm beginning to think it's me.

634
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Speaker 1: But in the race to the bottom, Illinois has really

635
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: got some momentum.

636
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Speaker 2: Share that with you in a moment or two.

637
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like when Kanye West was talking

638
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Speaker 4: to his wife about the divorce and he said, it's

639
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Speaker 4: not you or me, it's the Jews.

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Speaker 2: I like that joke. Wow.

641
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Speaker 4: Twice from Saturday Night lives there, I remember staying with us.

642
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Speaker 1: So the other das going through my hoodies because I

643
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Speaker 1: have too many of them and I don't wear them all,

644
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Speaker 1: you know, at all?

645
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Speaker 2: In some cases are not.

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Speaker 4: I've been wearing the same one hoodie I have for

647
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 4: everything for a long time, and I really need a

648
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: new hoodie. It's looking a little grungy.

649
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I could do you want three? Or four? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: One that I absolutely refuse to get rid of, no

651
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Speaker 1: matter how little I wear. It is my State of

652
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Speaker 1: Jefferson hoodie. The State of Jefferson a movement in northern

653
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Speaker 1: California and southern Oregon for the good and reasonable folks

654
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Speaker 1: of those two regions to secede from their crazy ass

655
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Speaker 1: progressive crumbling mobbed up high tax states ruled by Portland

656
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: in one case and the big coastal cities in California

657
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Speaker 1: on the other and form their own reasonable state of

658
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: moderate to conservative politics. I wish it could happen. It

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00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: probably won't, but I was extra excited to read this.

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Speaker 1: The state where I grew up, Illinois, secession is in

661
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Speaker 1: the air. This did not get much notice, but in November,

662
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: seven Illinois counties voted to consider seceding.

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Speaker 2: I could list the counties, but most of you have

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Speaker 2: never heard of them.

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Speaker 1: And six of the seven counties approved the advisory question,

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Speaker 1: should we consider seceding from the state of Illinois. Six

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Speaker 1: of the seven approved it by more than seventy percent.

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Speaker 4: Now, are they talking about forming their own state or

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Speaker 4: joining with a surrounding state, Nebraska or Indiana?

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Speaker 1: Okay, indeed Indiana, and the House Speaker of Indiana, Todd Hustin, said,

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Speaker 1: come on over, You'd be more than welcome. It's it

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Speaker 1: would be very difficult to pull this off. But the

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Speaker 1: child grooming, gender bending nightmare of a governor mobster JB.

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Speaker 1: Pritzker called the secession idea stunt and derided Indiana as

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Speaker 1: a low wage state that doesn't protect workers, a state

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Speaker 1: that does not provide healthcare for people when they're in need,

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Speaker 1: which is all code for they don't mutilate their little

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Speaker 1: kids who are momentarily confused about their sex during puberty

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Speaker 1: or whatever. But if you look at the this is

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Speaker 1: you know, the organizations here are little cumbersome. They're a

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Speaker 1: variety of think tanks and business organizations. But the state

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Speaker 1: economic outlook for twenty twenty four, Indiana is fifth in

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Speaker 1: the country.

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Speaker 2: Illinois is forty eighth.

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Speaker 1: The average effective property tax is three quarters of a

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Speaker 1: percent in Indiana, it's two and a quarter percent in Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Of course, it's so interesting if you think about various states.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there'd be some serious jerrymandering going on, but

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Speaker 4: I think most people would be in favor of of it.

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Speaker 4: Like I was picturing a chunk of Nebraska. Then you know,

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Speaker 4: you go through Iowa and get the college towns in

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Speaker 4: Des Moines on into Illinois and then you know their

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Speaker 4: blue parts. Put those together, then surround it with other

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Speaker 4: stuff that and everybody'd probably be happy. The progressions will

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Speaker 4: be like, yeah, good, get rid of you corn pone,

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Speaker 4: Trump voting weirdos and the rest of us would be like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: go ahead, enjoy your trains, bathrooms, and knock yourself out

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Speaker 4: with your high taxes.

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Speaker 1: I've advocated many times, Yeah, you can have twenty five states.

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Speaker 1: Will take twenty five states, will run them the way

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Speaker 1: we want to, You run years the way you want to,

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Speaker 1: and then after ten years we'll get together and see

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Speaker 1: who's doing better. But a number of people pointed out

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Speaker 1: people are kind of already doing that, fellas they're moving

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Speaker 1: that they're self segregating. But anyway, so there are a

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Speaker 1: bunch of statistics by which, by any measure, Indiana's a

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Speaker 1: way better option. Mister Pritzker writes, I think this is

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Speaker 1: the Journal editorial board is essentially claiming the superiority of

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Speaker 1: his welfare state public union governance model, but fewer people

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Speaker 1: are buying it. Since twenty twenty thirty three Illinois counties

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Speaker 1: have voted to consider breaking away from the state they're

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Speaker 1: alienated from. The progressive governance of Springfield and which is

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Speaker 1: owned by Chicago, saw the third highest out migration people

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Speaker 1: in the country while Indiana was gaining thirty thousand residents,

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Speaker 1: and then.

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Speaker 2: Illinois is also facing there.

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Speaker 1: It is the Illinois fiscal mess is so great that

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Speaker 1: pressure will keep building to raise taxes again and again.

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Speaker 2: Pension debt was.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and forty four billion dollars last year, up

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Speaker 1: from sixteen billion dollars in the year two thousand, So

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Speaker 1: in twenty four years it went from sixteen billion to

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty four billion, and JB.

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Speaker 2: Prisker says this is a stunt.

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Speaker 1: The other headline out of Illinois that only Illinoisans would

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Speaker 1: care about is one of the greatest, most evil political

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Speaker 1: mobsters in the history of the United States. Michael Madigan,

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Speaker 1: legendarily grimy Illinois House Speaker and all powerful master of

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Speaker 1: a one party state, has finally been convicted by a

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Speaker 1: federal jury of ten felonies.

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Speaker 2: So he is gone from Illinois.

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Speaker 1: Whether there's any saving that poor beleaguered land of Lincoln,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. But that's always easier to secede from

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Speaker 1: your crappy, crappy state.

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Speaker 2: No kidding.

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Speaker 4: That whole pension bomb thing, and a whole bunch of

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Speaker 4: different states or big cities across the country.

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Speaker 2: That's going to come do someday. Oh yes, suoni ish

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Speaker 2: In cal Unicornia, for instance

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Speaker 4: an hour get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on to

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