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Speaker 1: Season seven, episode five, The Great Stink and.
Speaker 2: I kept calling it the Big Stink, but you are correct.
Speaker 2: It's the Great Stink.
Speaker 1: Either applies aptly named episode for sure. And let's do
Speaker 1: the synopsisizations with Danielle Romo. I got you head synopsisizor
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 4: Season seven, episode five, The Great Stink. Airy Day, October
Speaker 4: twenty fourth, two thousand and six. Christopher and lorelized relationship.
Speaker 4: It progresses as they get support from Emily and Richard
Speaker 4: and he tells her that Sherry wants Gigi to stay
Speaker 4: in Paris for a few months. Rory gets one night
Speaker 4: with Logan and meets his colleagues. Les Star's hollow is
Speaker 4: plagued by a stinky odor.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel, as long as you're asking what
Speaker 1: I thought of the episode, I thought I didn't reject.
Speaker 1: I felt like The Great Stink was the whole thing
Speaker 1: was a metaphor. The stink was season seven, the residents
Speaker 1: of Stars Hollow were the fans, and I thought, isn't
Speaker 1: that clever of them to be so aware of how stinky,
Speaker 1: of how stinky things have gotten in the hollow?
Speaker 5: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: And it you know, Okay, this is what I'll say.
Speaker 1: This show is so far gone at this point season
Speaker 1: seven that I'm just looking for positive stuff. I'm just
Speaker 1: looking to enjoy the last two episodes.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go as far as.
Speaker 1: That I'm going to get something out of this because
Speaker 1: I because there's gonna be good jokes, there's going to
Speaker 1: be jolly's and you know, I overall, I really like
Speaker 1: the Logan Rory stuff.
Speaker 2: So criticism there like it really really There's things I like,
Speaker 2: but there's things I do not like.
Speaker 6: That's the best part of the episode.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you this, Zukri was the best
Speaker 2: part of the episode or logan? I found Rory to
Speaker 2: be so irritating and annoying, like her complaining about the
Speaker 2: dinner and almost whin.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was and that was a bro hag.
Speaker 2: May I say. I saw Suzanne nodding a bit, and
Speaker 2: I think she might be on my side.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I actually so, there's like there's like two Gilmore's for me.
Speaker 5: There's like seasons one through Poorish and then there's Flourish
Speaker 5: through seven.
Speaker 1: And let me let me just interrupted here. I think
Speaker 1: it's season seven and particularly this episode and especially that
Speaker 1: cheeseball ending, which was really an homage to like It's
Speaker 1: It's It's like the Corpse of Gilmore was happened upon
Speaker 1: by a show called Dynasty now pro created with the
Speaker 1: Brady Bunch and came up with season seven.
Speaker 2: Wait why did I block out how the show ends?
Speaker 2: I know they're going to France and they're all happy,
Speaker 2: and I actually liked that moment. That was the cheesy
Speaker 2: moment that I actually liked.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not Gilmore. Gilmore doesn't do that.
Speaker 2: That's like something that's okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I will say it was the first
Speaker 3: time I was really happy we weren't just mad at
Speaker 3: the end of an episode.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I have way more composed for yourself.
Speaker 4: I didn't like this, it is still running off with Christopher.
Speaker 3: I didn't like the scene, but it wasn't like me
Speaker 3: wanting to punch my TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, Susanne, I interrupted you.
Speaker 2: Well, that's okay.
Speaker 5: I just was going to say, I think out of
Speaker 5: the past like maybe ten episodes, this one wasn't that bad.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I agree, like you know.
Speaker 5: First second, third season quality, but given that this is
Speaker 5: our new normal, I thought it was.
Speaker 2: It's okay. Yeah, I agree, there's things I really like.
Speaker 5: I do was so little on my nerves though, but
Speaker 5: she's so annoying in.
Speaker 2: This annoying This is hellalous.
Speaker 6: And it's always kind of valid.
Speaker 4: I disagree, we disagree with it being valid, but it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I I also found it so annoying that they're like
Speaker 2: and then Bobby just stole the show by getting up
Speaker 2: and walking out re enacted, and I'm like, she didn't
Speaker 2: do anything good. Like I was like, I think she's
Speaker 2: super cute and cool, but yeah I was not that
Speaker 2: was that could that dinner scene could have been so
Speaker 2: much better. But who am I to judge?
Speaker 5: I totally got rory on the Bobby thing though, like
Speaker 5: how she thought Bobby was a man. That's the parting
Speaker 5: happened to me in my life. So I kind of
Speaker 5: was with her.
Speaker 2: Suzanne, your husband was working in someone. This was like
Speaker 2: this guy.
Speaker 5: This was like way before I even met my husband.
Speaker 5: It was this guy that I was kind of like,
Speaker 5: we weren't dating, but I was kind of interested and
Speaker 5: it was kind of like weird.
Speaker 2: He had he had a best friend named Pat and Ray.
Speaker 5: He kept Ray last friend Ray, but it turned out
Speaker 5: to be r Ae ray Lean.
Speaker 2: Girl that did was not clear me.
Speaker 5: I didn't you say something so I can relate to her?
Speaker 1: I can't. If you want to talk about cringe, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: we do call the Laurel I and Christopher scenes were cringe,
Speaker 1: total cringe. I don't know how. It's like I didn't
Speaker 1: under I didn't know what show I was watching anymore.
Speaker 2: And we will be discussing the deleted scene that Suzanne
Speaker 2: found and sent us. Yes, I have not as much
Speaker 2: cringe on them as I was, like, Rory, you're making
Speaker 2: me so mad.
Speaker 5: There was, Yeah, Christopher was. It kind of annoyed me
Speaker 5: that he miss under well, and we'll talk to him
Speaker 5: talk about it when we get to that scene.
Speaker 2: But I didn't.
Speaker 5: It annoyed me that he was annoyed with Laura I
Speaker 5: because he didn't he misinterpreted what she was saying and
Speaker 5: it was like he did He's done that to her before.
Speaker 5: He did that to her at Luke's Diner that one time,
Speaker 5: right after the Debutante ball. I don't know, we'll talk
Speaker 5: about when we get away.
Speaker 1: Let's just let's just talk about the massive hole in
Speaker 1: the show now. The narrative Luke and Laurel I narrative
Speaker 1: is gone.
Speaker 2: Now it's we're miss Luke.
Speaker 1: There wasn't enough Luke, and it's awkward. The show feels
Speaker 1: really flat now, and it's I have never ever disliked
Speaker 1: being in the presence of the Gilmours, Richard Emily, Okay,
Speaker 1: this time I did. They were They were just too
Speaker 1: damn happy that Christopher was. Yeah, it was there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Emily was a little I mean for me, that's
Speaker 5: how Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know they would be that way. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: as a fan of the show. Yeah, the big narrative
Speaker 1: that you know was part one of the pillars of
Speaker 1: the show is now removed completely, one to the point
Speaker 1: where Laurel I even make some really demeaning comment. It's like,
Speaker 1: I rather smell the stink than go to a town
Speaker 1: hall meeting and run into Luke.
Speaker 2: Well that I thought about, I mean, I was.
Speaker 1: Like borderline disrespectful of the character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, overall digging into each scene because I think we've
Speaker 2: got problems with each one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's go Amy, So okay, baby, everybody else but.
Speaker 5: Moralized packing multiple bags and all this stuffing is for
Speaker 5: paul Anka and she's tooth.
Speaker 2: It was dumb.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great a former dog owner. There are many bags.
Speaker 4: It's like you're packing for five children. There's the water bowl,
Speaker 4: there's a food, there's if they have medication, medication, their
Speaker 4: toy if they haven't bandana. Like, there's a lot. There's
Speaker 4: a lot that goes.
Speaker 5: Into it, and it has to be a green tennis
Speaker 5: ball and it has to be this brand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all that stuff.
Speaker 2: I get it, all right, all right. I mean it
Speaker 2: was mildly amusing. I was like, Okay, she's gonna go
Speaker 2: over to Christopher's. They're obviously still doing great. Then she
Speaker 2: forgot paul Anka. I'm like, oh gosh, that's so wacky.
Speaker 2: Like there were some things I didn't love.
Speaker 1: I think, Amy, you got to understand these fans who
Speaker 1: dedicated this show are sitting there in disgust that they
Speaker 1: have to watch these scenes. See, I am ready to
Speaker 1: bar at all times. I together more.
Speaker 2: Where I'm at in that it's not bad, it's not discussed.
Speaker 2: You would be, well, we'll find trust me, we will
Speaker 2: find out.
Speaker 5: Because they're as a fan.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that. I just said. I should just
Speaker 1: say I disagree with that.
Speaker 2: Seuse any what how do you feel?
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I would rather watch a scene
Speaker 5: like that, which is sort of funny and bantery. I
Speaker 5: would rather watch that kind of the lurlike Christopher scene
Speaker 5: than walk a romantic Laura like Christopher scene.
Speaker 2: Oh. I would rather watch that and a romantic scene
Speaker 2: than them arguing like they did in the front door
Speaker 2: of the Gilmours.
Speaker 6: I was like, make it stop.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's because Christopher's just not He's a weenie.
Speaker 2: Right out the gate. We're like, that's like, I hate it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm hanging in there.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the town hall stuff. I enjoyed the.
Speaker 2: Okay jump ahead because there's some town hall stuff.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: When we get to the town hall, there's some genius
Speaker 2: stuff there.
Speaker 5: So then we go to Rory and Logan's aperm and
Speaker 5: she's getting off the elevator. She's carrying three hundred books,
Speaker 5: not mad about it, and he's on the phone with
Speaker 5: her and he says, go on the roof, Go on
Speaker 5: the roof. She unlocks the door, but then carries all
Speaker 5: the books up.
Speaker 2: Interesting, thank you.
Speaker 5: It was okay, And like I didn't know if she thought,
Speaker 5: like a meteor shower is something that like only last
Speaker 5: few seconds and she had to run right up there.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would have just left the books
Speaker 2: at the door, Like I understand that she wanted to hurry,
Speaker 2: but like they don't live in Like, I don't think
Speaker 2: any's going to come by and steal her books. She
Speaker 2: could just put them.
Speaker 5: Down and run up.
Speaker 1: It would have been But what about all her notes
Speaker 1: in there? I don't if you lose your notes, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 5: True. But then then she goes up on the roof
Speaker 5: and there's Logan.
Speaker 2: She's all excited. That was love moment, Like that was great, and.
Speaker 5: He had the you know, all the ankle lights and
Speaker 5: the food.
Speaker 2: And it's all great. What a cutie, what a straight
Speaker 2: up beauty. And his teeth have never looked better than
Speaker 2: in this episode. I'm like, wow, your teeth. Matt Zuegree, Hello.
Speaker 4: He like made such a like from when I first
Speaker 4: met him.
Speaker 2: I was like, this brat is.
Speaker 4: Now or Rory's love interest, But right now I think
Speaker 4: he's so cute. I love Logan right a really nervous
Speaker 4: because everyone doesn't like him.
Speaker 3: But but I think that's like the journey with Logan,
Speaker 3: like you go back and forth, like you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: he's so annoyingly like, oh my god, but he.
Speaker 4: Treats Yeah, and then right now is a plus Logan.
Speaker 4: He it is gold shiny star.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear how Daniel feels about the movies. Wait,
Speaker 2: you guys, I have to tell you a secret. Huddle up,
Speaker 2: puddle up, Puddle up, you guys. Okay, here's a secret.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna admit this. I might have made a phone
Speaker 2: call this week to find out if Matt Zukrie has
Speaker 2: a girlfriend. Not because I won't have the perfect person
Speaker 2: to set him up with. Really, so I was I
Speaker 2: was like, I need to find out, and I did
Speaker 2: not get a straight answer. But maybe there's hope. There
Speaker 2: might be hope.
Speaker 1: My friends, who's your friend?
Speaker 2: Well, I can't reveal she's not famous, like and I
Speaker 2: think he did not famous people.
Speaker 4: So like I think because Mila doesn't date famous people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he married someone with the last name Mariano.
Speaker 6: It's right, that's right. I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: But Zukri, so yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I did
Speaker 2: make that call. So everybody listening, if you know anyone
Speaker 2: else who's got a chance. No, he might have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: I actually your going to be.
Speaker 2: He's very private, so we don't know. So I did
Speaker 2: not get a straight answer, but I tried to find out.
Speaker 2: But don't tell. Don't tell everybody.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could do a wraf or something. We could
Speaker 1: why not.
Speaker 5: Moralized going through the TiVo And this made me laugh
Speaker 5: because of the tiva, like the act. Those sounds actually
Speaker 5: were like the t totally sounds. I don't know if
Speaker 5: you guys had an actually yeah, and I was like,
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, poor memory. It was I totally remember those.
Speaker 6: Sounds from definitely product placement right there at that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I watched Gilmore Girls the first time I t
Speaker 2: vote it, I would watch it on my Tiva like
Speaker 2: I would go Real More Girls because I like watch it.
Speaker 6: Do you remember recording on a VHS obvious?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so many people to rewind the tapes to start
Speaker 4: from the beginning.
Speaker 2: Does this mean anything to you be kind. Rewind, Yeah,
Speaker 2: getting charged, you'd get charged.
Speaker 6: You didn't rewind. It was so annoying when you popped
Speaker 6: in your movie and it was at the end.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it took so long to rewind it.
Speaker 2: Same with cassette tapes. You're like, I don't want us
Speaker 2: to hear number two and three. Get me to like
Speaker 2: Billy Joel glass Houses and like anyway, see, our pop
Speaker 2: culture is better than the pop culture in this episode,
Speaker 2: because ours is organic and clever. I have such a
Speaker 2: beef with the pop culture, but we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 5: So then Christopher shows Laurlai the letter from Sherry. She's
Speaker 5: had this epiphany and she's sorry and dating a yoga instructor.
Speaker 5: Sends this fifteen page letter that she wants Gigi to
Speaker 5: come visit her. Lorlai is surprised that Chris shared it
Speaker 5: with her, obviously because of what happened with Luke. She's like,
Speaker 5: you just got this letter and you're sharing it with me,
Speaker 5: and Christopher thought she was criticizing him. She says, no,
Speaker 5: it's not a criticism. And then that's when we find
Speaker 5: out that she wants Gigi to come with her to
Speaker 5: or to come visit her in Paris. I was hoping
Speaker 5: for a little paul Anka in the scene because they
Speaker 5: made such a big deals going to be the first
Speaker 5: time that paul could go to Christopher's house. I wanted
Speaker 5: to see you.
Speaker 2: I just thought it was such a Luke dig. She
Speaker 2: was giving such a dig to Luke, you know about
Speaker 2: the letter, because she's like, no, I'm so happy you're
Speaker 2: telling me. You mean you're and she was so sort
Speaker 2: of sarcastically not funny about it. She's like, you mean
Speaker 2: you didn't hide it for a month and then not,
Speaker 2: and you know, I was like, I'm not really loving that.
Speaker 1: Are we all? In? Uh, how do we feel about this?
Speaker 1: This dippy guy, Oh my god, Christopher sharing his fifteen
Speaker 1: page letter with his ex wife two Laura.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was fine with that. What is that
Speaker 2: is that?
Speaker 3: Like, I didn't think I didn't think that was as
Speaker 3: bad as just being like, oh yeah, let me just
Speaker 3: ship my daughter with.
Speaker 6: The nanny to you.
Speaker 2: That was weird.
Speaker 6: I thought that was worse than sharing.
Speaker 1: The tracks with Christopher totally, you know, but like I
Speaker 1: don't know, mister desperado here, I'm going to share the letter,
Speaker 1: go ahead and read it. You know, she says, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I didn't mind the letter, but Christopher's got some real
Speaker 2: question marks in this episode.
Speaker 1: He's a boy, he's not a man.
Speaker 6: Well it also it also just tracks so like he
Speaker 6: wasn't really there for Rory either. So it surprised me.
Speaker 6: But it didn't.
Speaker 3: I think it surprised me because I'm like, has he changed?
Speaker 3: She's been taking care of Gigi for how many years now?
Speaker 3: But it's like, oh no, the first chance that he
Speaker 3: gets to like ship Gigi off, he's like, oh, just
Speaker 3: go with.
Speaker 2: The Nobody is doing that. I mean maybe here I
Speaker 2: can't judge, but like Laura, I would never have done that. No,
Speaker 2: that's why she didn't have.
Speaker 4: A very interesting argument though that like she deserves to
Speaker 4: have a relationship with her mother and here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but why can't he take gg or she should come.
Speaker 2: Here or totally Gg has her school and her friends
Speaker 2: and her whatever.
Speaker 6: Well no, he said that she's not in school yet.
Speaker 2: I know, but she's still in like preschool or playgroup
Speaker 2: or whatever. She's at the park playing with somebody. It's
Speaker 2: like he should have said to Sherry, this is wonderful news.
Speaker 2: I so look for I have tons of money. Now,
Speaker 2: I so look forward to you.
Speaker 5: I'll have you.
Speaker 2: I'll even help you put you up right and so
Speaker 2: that you can spend the summer with your daughter. What
Speaker 2: wonderful news. Not I'm gonna have the nanny take my
Speaker 2: kid to this rando who left her once.
Speaker 6: Well in the comment that oh she's twenty five, she'll
Speaker 6: have fun or whatever he said.
Speaker 2: I thought it was funny.
Speaker 5: Whenever Laurel I mentioned the nanny, the age always got lower, did.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, because he got to eighteen.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, first she said the twenty year old nanny.
Speaker 5: Then she's like the eighteen year old.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I wasn't surprised. I was not like when
Speaker 4: Christopher was like, oh, I'm gonna shipper with the nanny.
Speaker 4: It's a once in a lifetime opportunity for the nanny.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: You know what I met, worry about what thinks about
Speaker 5: let's just yeah, nanny.
Speaker 1: You know what this is. This is a typical Christopher cluster,
Speaker 1: you know what. Yeah, it's like that guy stepped in
Speaker 1: it a long time ago, and he keeps like asking
Speaker 1: people to clean off his shoes, and it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: It's like everything every scene with this guy, It's like,
Speaker 1: what is he doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very mixed for me, because there's times and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh that's cute, they're cue and then there's
Speaker 2: times that I'm like, oh gosh, yeah, he's not a
Speaker 2: great decision maker.
Speaker 4: In question, does he have a job? Right now, he's rich,
Speaker 4: he's he's rich, But does he have a job.
Speaker 2: He's got like thirty million or something, didn't we decide
Speaker 2: fifteen job was to annoy.
Speaker 4: Us being he could he could take her to Paris?
Speaker 5: Of course?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, he has time and the money right well,
Speaker 3: and in fact he's going to take her to Paris,
Speaker 3: because that's.
Speaker 2: What happens at the end.
Speaker 4: But yeah, exactly, it's.
Speaker 5: Just okay, So enough of Christopher. So we go back
Speaker 5: to the rooftop where Logan and Rory are laying on
Speaker 5: a couch cushion, presumably watching the meteor shower and talking
Speaker 5: business jargon blah blah blah, and Rory's laughing at Logan.
Speaker 2: That was kind of cute, how she was? That was cute?
Speaker 2: That was cute, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: It was a cute little you know, almost a throwaway see,
Speaker 5: but it was cute, little banter.
Speaker 1: It's almost those their scenes were better acted than the
Speaker 1: Crystal Wait, this isn't where.
Speaker 2: She was in bed and called him like a lover.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, at this point she's like she's trying to check.
Speaker 4: Us, and they're like, it only twenty six more hours.
Speaker 4: What are we going to do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, oh yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: But then right after that it does go to the
Speaker 5: apartment where it's the early the next morning, it's like
Speaker 5: six am, and so he's going to the pre breakfast
Speaker 5: breakfast to prep with his team for the meeting, and
Speaker 5: then the whole you know.
Speaker 2: Work dark work doork, lover work doork, that's what it was.
Speaker 5: A cute little that was a cute little like you know,
Speaker 5: thing between them and she Rory looked happy.
Speaker 2: It was cute, he was She's in love and ye.
Speaker 1: She acts that well. I just thought their stuff was
Speaker 1: really well acted compared yeah, Christopher Lorelli stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I thought those scenes were realistic, like she she's
Speaker 5: been missing him so much and then she was so
Speaker 5: so excited to see him. So I thought it was cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a hand of those two. They really
Speaker 1: did some great scenes together.
Speaker 5: And then the next scene is where the stink is introduced,
Speaker 5: though no one knows what it is. They try to
Speaker 5: open a window, but it's worse outside. It's not coming
Speaker 5: from the kitchen. Suki's offended at the idea that it
Speaker 5: would be coming from the kitten.
Speaker 6: It was funny.
Speaker 2: This was funny, and it for me, the best parts
Speaker 2: of all the stinky stuff were the very subtle things
Speaker 2: you barely notice, like Michelle grabs the like weird squash
Speaker 2: or sort of fruity type object and just holds it
Speaker 2: on his nose. And in the we get to the
Speaker 2: town meeting, but there are some hilarious subtleties in the
Speaker 2: town meeting, like Gypsy is wearing air fresheners all around. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that was very clever. There was some really good stuff.
Speaker 6: It was also just nice to see everyone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, town meeting for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good one. And everyone's sort of
Speaker 2: like doing weird things with their nose and Taylor doesn't
Speaker 2: want to pay the twenty five hundred.
Speaker 4: And everyone's calling him a cheap.
Speaker 6: That's funny.
Speaker 2: And then anyway, we see Luke at the town meeting.
Speaker 5: I think that was the first time we'd seen Luke
Speaker 5: in the episode.
Speaker 2: I thought we'd saw him one time prior when they
Speaker 2: discover the smell. No, no, So why did I think
Speaker 2: I saw you one time?
Speaker 1: Like? Nos?
Speaker 4: Because we talked about him our lord.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's the very enviable position to have one part of
Speaker 1: one day shooting day and then you're off the rest
Speaker 1: of that shoot for that episode. That's wonderful.
Speaker 5: Well, and I think we can talk about it at
Speaker 5: the end, but I think you had like a little
Speaker 5: bit more of a storyline. Yeah, we're in the deleted scene,
Speaker 5: so I wonder if there were like maybe another scene
Speaker 5: or two that led into that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, because we didn't see April, even though she
Speaker 2: did work.
Speaker 5: And did that, she wasn't in an episode at all.
Speaker 2: But she's in the deleted scene.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know she's still better money, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for pay day.
Speaker 5: Okay, So eventually the spend the money to pick up
Speaker 5: the pickles and alleviate the stench, and then we go
Speaker 5: to the playground.
Speaker 2: I think we do need to post some photos from
Speaker 2: that town meeting though, so people can really see like
Speaker 2: the air freshener and like people were doing different things
Speaker 2: and Michelle still has the like gourd or whatever it
Speaker 2: is over.
Speaker 5: It was like an orange with the clothes stuck in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, I, oh, is that what it was?
Speaker 3: Okay, the whole time I was like, I love pickles,
Speaker 3: but I would the smell or around town to be terrible,
Speaker 3: like I was actually thinking about especially like.
Speaker 2: Three days in this we talk about the deleted scene
Speaker 2: here because it probably went in around here.
Speaker 6: I think it was here.
Speaker 5: It was at the end.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because if he has April, Looke didn't have April
Speaker 4: at the town meeting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's got the end because he sees them
Speaker 5: all drug by in the car.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll talk about it and thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 5: I think it was.
Speaker 2: It was night.
Speaker 5: I'm done on scene or second to last scene. So
Speaker 5: we go to the playground. And the second time I
Speaker 5: watched because I watched this episode twice this week, and
Speaker 5: the second time I watched it, I was watching the
Speaker 5: background and it was like the same five people.
Speaker 2: I noticed that.
Speaker 5: Somebody was riding a bike and it was pretty funny.
Speaker 2: He's not a great fake actor, Christopher Slash David Suckcliffe.
Speaker 2: You know when he's like clearly talking to I was like,
Speaker 2: that's not really, that's not great acting. So maybe it's
Speaker 2: not because you know what I'm saying, fake acting. It's
Speaker 2: like phase acting, but it's fake acting, like it's something
Speaker 2: that's not there, not great David, But that's okay.
Speaker 5: So this is where Okay, so I guess maybe okay,
Speaker 5: So I guess we didn't hear about Paris in the
Speaker 5: letter part. We heard about it in this scene, but oh,
Speaker 5: you know before that. So one thing I noticed this
Speaker 5: is where they talk about Friday night dinner. And I
Speaker 5: thought it was interesting. Laura, I said, mentioned going to
Speaker 5: Friday night dinner and she said, yeah, you me and
Speaker 5: Rory like no mention of Gigi going to Friday night dinner,
Speaker 5: Like it's just automatically he's not allowed to go.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. I guess that she's too little for something
Speaker 2: like Friday night dinner. She's so little, why would she want.
Speaker 5: To do that?
Speaker 1: Too late but you know, way past her bedtime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like where your head's at with that.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I just feel like if like if
Speaker 5: if if it was their kid, that kid would have
Speaker 5: been invited to dinner. But because it was Christopher's kid
Speaker 5: from you know, some person. We can't be around that child.
Speaker 1: Plus it's a production sort of cost to add a
Speaker 1: rubber baby, yeah, or a rubber four year old, but
Speaker 1: then you have to get the real four year old. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: they don't and then you have to you have to
Speaker 1: adapt your schedule so that they you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It throws off everybody's schedule.
Speaker 5: I did notice that, you know, is sort of a
Speaker 5: central concept in this episode, and yet there was they
Speaker 5: never like showed her, like they didn't have to bring
Speaker 5: in the kid, right, So this is where he mentions
Speaker 5: having the nanny take.
Speaker 1: She wears the same button down shirts as her father,
Speaker 1: and so.
Speaker 5: We see Laural like kind of make that face like
Speaker 5: I don't think this is such a great idea. But
Speaker 5: she doesn't say anything at that point, right.
Speaker 2: Because she's trying not to be that person or something.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So then we get a little break from uh,
Speaker 5: the Gilmour craziness, and we go to Yale.
Speaker 2: To the paper.
Speaker 5: And that was a little annoying out and they're arguing
Speaker 5: about release the paper.
Speaker 6: Is it going to be It's just a little out
Speaker 6: of place, it's saying.
Speaker 2: It felt like filler to me, like, we get it.
Speaker 4: Funny, they needed a scene for Logan and tell Rory
Speaker 4: that they sold the thing, they bought the company, and
Speaker 4: we're gonna we're going out on the town getting ready.
Speaker 3: I feel like she's totally could have been at home
Speaker 3: studying and that by yeah, because I wanted.
Speaker 6: Then I was like, okay, well, and then we have Paris.
Speaker 6: I feel like Paris was a throwaway in this episode, Like, you.
Speaker 5: Know, it just felt like a totally underutilized Yeah, it's
Speaker 5: like having a missile.
Speaker 1: You don't fire it, you just show it.
Speaker 5: And then then we go to the dragon Fly Michelle
Speaker 5: is trying it's I didn't. It took me a while
Speaker 5: to understand what he was doing. I guess he was
Speaker 5: talking to a client or a potential, Like he was.
Speaker 2: Trying to convince somebody not to come today because of
Speaker 2: the pickles.
Speaker 1: Somebody trying to book a room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the towels were funny and then he
Speaker 2: puts the mask on. It was all amusing with the pickles.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then Suki is cooking pastrami smart. Did you see
Speaker 5: the size of those loaves of bread?
Speaker 1: They were? Could you could you could smuggle a body
Speaker 1: in those you could smuggle.
Speaker 5: A rubber or four year old.
Speaker 2: I don't love pastrami, do you, guys? I know a
Speaker 2: lot of people do.
Speaker 4: Daniel, Yeah, it is ordering it, but I'll eat it.
Speaker 5: What is it like?
Speaker 2: It's almost like a roast beef? Yes, Oh, it's pickled
Speaker 2: roast beef.
Speaker 1: OKAYSTMI like pickled roast beef.
Speaker 4: Or something like that.
Speaker 2: So it's not salami.
Speaker 6: Okay, it's made from beef brisket.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 2: Then why don't I like pastrami? I don't think I
Speaker 2: like pastrami.
Speaker 1: Maybe you haven't had the right kind of sandwich you
Speaker 1: got to go.
Speaker 2: I actually never had pastrami, And I'm judging it based.
Speaker 1: On what's that place in New York City? What is it?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 5: When we were just there in April.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to Casses and yeah right cats, all right,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like six inches thick.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a thunderstorm to get there.
Speaker 2: And I don't think this drama is on my list
Speaker 2: of safe foods with my acid reflux, So I think
Speaker 2: I can't have it. We can do a whole episode
Speaker 2: on that. Wait for that. Stay tuned, everybody.
Speaker 1: That's when you do your imitation of Mount Saint Helen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Amy's diet is weird.
Speaker 1: Episode, all right, we'll do it. We'll do an episode
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 5: So then Suki, who we established already has become the
Speaker 5: voice of the fan. Yeah hates christ is talking to
Speaker 5: Larela I about like, why didn't you call Christopher out
Speaker 5: on the insanity of sending the little kid to Paris
Speaker 5: with a nanny? And Laurela I says, basically in her
Speaker 5: head she was thinking of Luke. She had to like
Speaker 5: tell herself, wait, no, Christopher wants me involved in his
Speaker 5: kid's life. It was lou that shut me out. And
Speaker 5: then the phone call from Rory. I thought the phone
Speaker 5: call was funny, the whole pickle train conducting, and how
Speaker 5: they had to replay the whole phone call because Rory
Speaker 5: she didn't tell I thought that was a cute little shit.
Speaker 1: That was a little little much. Yeah, I just think
Speaker 1: it's odd seeing Laura I behave this way.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: It's like she seems so damn happy and it's just
Speaker 1: so wrong and she but.
Speaker 2: She also seems mixed up in like who she is right,
Speaker 2: Like she's not suddenly gonna just have this filter and
Speaker 2: like hold back with this guy she's known longer than
Speaker 2: even like it just I'm like, who is this person?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: I even thought, and this is like not to be
Speaker 2: I'm not being mean. I'm just gonna say it. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was how they shot her.
Speaker 2: She even looked a little different in this episode, and
Speaker 2: I was like, what is happening? Who is that lady?
Speaker 2: By the way, I might go see sidebar, Lauren Graham
Speaker 2: is coming to San Francisco.
Speaker 6: She's also coming to her book tour in la Like
Speaker 6: somewhere tickets.
Speaker 2: I gotta get tickets. You guys should come up.
Speaker 5: She was in Riverside last weekend.
Speaker 6: That's what it already happened, but not here.
Speaker 2: Come up to San Francisco. Okay, continue, Sorry.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's see. So okay, phone call, we talked about
Speaker 5: the pickle train conducting. Then we go to the dinner
Speaker 5: with Logan. Okay, Now, first of all, before we jump
Speaker 5: into the scene, I have to say, when you watch
Speaker 5: this episode again, notice when they walk into the restaurant
Speaker 5: and you can see there's in the background there's like
Speaker 5: a wooden paneling with some kind of a metal like
Speaker 5: kind of accent stripe. So that room wherever that is
Speaker 5: on the Warner lot has been used in other Gilmore episodes.
Speaker 5: So that was the same room where Lorelei and Jason
Speaker 5: went on their first date and they walk in and
Speaker 5: she sees.
Speaker 2: Ted Copple. It was that, and then it was also
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 5: I can't remember the name of the episode, but it
Speaker 5: was early. I think it was like season one, season two,
Speaker 5: when Tricks was going to give Rory the trust fund
Speaker 5: and they go to Tea and Emily and I got
Speaker 5: any argument and that's what Tricks is like, Okay, well
Speaker 5: I'm not giving you the money now. That was that
Speaker 5: same room.
Speaker 6: So interesting, next time you watch it.
Speaker 5: Fun little that was a very good I like how
Speaker 5: they use things. Yeah, anyways, cool, Okay, So this is
Speaker 5: where Rory finds out that Bobby is a female and
Speaker 5: the look on her face. I thought Alexis did a
Speaker 5: good job in this scene.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and even and just her mannerisms too, like she
Speaker 4: was really stressed out.
Speaker 5: Right right, like she's trying to kind of heard it
Speaker 5: together and be sociable, but at the same time, you
Speaker 5: could see like the wheels in her head are just
Speaker 5: like spinning and she's about to like and.
Speaker 2: I thought this was where I got real annoyed. It
Speaker 2: was such an overreaction.
Speaker 4: I was like, chill, but for like someone I don't know,
Speaker 4: like when you have a long distance relationship. And I'm
Speaker 4: only saying this because I briefly did it in college.
Speaker 4: You don't know these people, and so when you hear
Speaker 4: your significant other being like, oh, I hung out Bobby, Bobby,
Speaker 4: and then you find out Bobby is a gorgeous blonde,
Speaker 4: but you're like, wait a minute, I don't know how
Speaker 4: I feel about that.
Speaker 6: Well, also very good, I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: I also thought that, like if my boyfriend was in
Speaker 3: town for twenty six hours and then I go to
Speaker 3: this dinner and like I would just be so annoyed
Speaker 3: with like a group of people, let alone another woman.
Speaker 3: Like That's where I thought, I'm like, she kind of
Speaker 3: has like valid feelings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's also something to be said for the style
Speaker 1: of acting for TV versus film, and for especially this show,
Speaker 1: because they don't do close ups. Sure everything is either
Speaker 1: wide shots or two shots or you know, they go
Speaker 1: from waist up.
Speaker 2: That's why don't they do close ups. I was today
Speaker 2: years old.
Speaker 1: Amy just did it. Doesn't like close ups. She doesn't
Speaker 1: do them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's not all TV shows or our long shows.
Speaker 1: But this show, so the acting has to be a
Speaker 1: little more noticeable. I guess you can't pick up y, yeah,
Speaker 1: because easily when you're not in a close up that's
Speaker 1: beautifully lit and you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 5: But we had some close ups of Rory in that scene,
Speaker 5: didn't we I have to go back and look.
Speaker 2: I guess it was over the top though. I think
Speaker 2: what Scott is.
Speaker 1: Saying close they don't do, like like close on the
Speaker 1: eyes and stuff. They don't do that. Everything is like
Speaker 1: from chest up or waste.
Speaker 2: I think that makes sense because on other shows. On
Speaker 2: the nine to two one oh show I do, there
Speaker 2: was a close up so close I told Tory Spelling,
Speaker 2: I could see down her ear and you never have
Speaker 2: that on more.
Speaker 5: And I think beyond that, I think that she felt
Speaker 5: kind of left out too, because she had nothing in
Speaker 5: common with these people. They all have this great shared
Speaker 5: experience of this breakfast where they bought this company, and
Speaker 5: she was just kind of like nodding, and.
Speaker 2: I know, I thought it was so like, you're you're
Speaker 2: the plus one, You've been included with this group that's
Speaker 2: super important to logan. I thought she could have just
Speaker 2: been leveled up. I thought she could have been.
Speaker 1: He led her on that it was going to be
Speaker 1: an intimate dinner just the two of them, there's special
Speaker 1: time together, and then she walks into that. I kind
Speaker 1: of don't blame.
Speaker 5: Let's take a book that was thinking running out of time,
Speaker 5: and she thought that was going to be like a
Speaker 5: special dinner with her, yea her perspective.
Speaker 1: She never said that it was going to be the group.
Speaker 1: He never did. She had she had every right to
Speaker 1: be a little yeah, and if you remember.
Speaker 4: That morning, she woke up and she was like, we
Speaker 4: only have fifteen hours, right, he spent we wasted hours
Speaker 4: sleeping or whatever. She doesn't want to I would be
Speaker 4: an hour being spent with his word calling.
Speaker 2: I would have been excited to be included. I think
Speaker 2: it's super nice. I'm just giving you a different thing.
Speaker 2: It's super nice that he included her. I think she's
Speaker 2: super smart. She could have just totally risen to the
Speaker 2: occasion and been like, just so happy to be there
Speaker 2: with these people and celebrating their significant accomplishment. And I
Speaker 2: just thought she was a whiny little brat. Sorry, I did,
Speaker 2: and I thought she was not even hiding it. I
Speaker 2: thought you're being so.
Speaker 6: I wasn't.
Speaker 4: She wasn't, and Logan called her out.
Speaker 1: But he set the bar really high with the rooftop
Speaker 1: delight right, and then ruins the private dinner thing with
Speaker 1: you know, it's not just going to be me and
Speaker 1: my pals, but there's going to be a really beautiful
Speaker 1: woman there that I work with who went to Oxford.
Speaker 4: I mean he was throwing the Oxford thing too. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it seems weirder.
Speaker 2: I think that the fact, like if someone called me
Speaker 2: and was like, come to dinner and my colleague is beautiful,
Speaker 2: I'd be like.
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, I think it's just like he's just
Speaker 6: I think he should say it's a woman. I don't
Speaker 6: even think she had to mention her appearance. I think it's.
Speaker 5: It's so weird, like we had his dinner.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be like, to your husband, there's
Speaker 2: going to be four girls there and seven boys.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Say to her, was like, hey, it's a
Speaker 1: it's kind of a work dinner. It's like sort of
Speaker 1: a celebration thing, so my colleagues are going to be there.
Speaker 4: Bobby, she she's from she went to Oxford.
Speaker 1: You know, like there's.
Speaker 2: That he could have said, come join us. We're celebrating
Speaker 2: this huge success.
Speaker 6: And I want you there.
Speaker 3: And I said if he said, if he said colleagues,
Speaker 3: it would make a difference.
Speaker 6: I don't think he'd have to say, you're right.
Speaker 5: That wasn't the first time he'd ever mentioned Bobby, like
Speaker 5: Rory says that, you know, he's told me all about
Speaker 5: you guys, like they've had He's been in London for
Speaker 5: months now, They've had conversations about his co workers. He
Speaker 5: could have somehow mentioned or it would have come up
Speaker 5: in the conversation that Bobby was a female. I we
Speaker 5: worried them have to be just that conversation.
Speaker 2: But are we worried that Logan's gonna like kiss Bobby.
Speaker 2: I'm not who.
Speaker 5: Cares I mean about that, But I don't know. I
Speaker 5: just feel like a little genuine.
Speaker 1: Till we're talking Logan here.
Speaker 4: The one thing I will say is, you know, like
Speaker 4: I sympathize with Rory again, she's in a long distance relationship.
Speaker 4: You know she you already are insecure as it is,
Speaker 4: especially at that age, but when you go to when
Speaker 4: you go to dinner with a colleague for the first time,
Speaker 4: that spends more time with your significant other than you
Speaker 4: do for them to be like, oh, like I did.
Speaker 4: I did think Rory had valid points with the adorable,
Speaker 4: you know, like, oh you adorable.
Speaker 2: That didn't bother me.
Speaker 4: I have so much fun because Logan makes us laugh.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It's just like.
Speaker 1: Logan. Logan was a tad slick in this episode.
Speaker 2: You know, I think it would.
Speaker 4: I would, I would.
Speaker 1: That's a great thing on the roof, And then he
Speaker 1: fails to dinner and then there's.
Speaker 2: Some Well's.
Speaker 1: And they sitting right next to each It feels a little.
Speaker 2: The word Scott just used prep is what I think
Speaker 2: Logan messed up. Because when I think that, like, even
Speaker 2: when you take your like significant other to like a
Speaker 2: family party, you're like, hey, my, my nutty aunt and
Speaker 2: uncle are going to be there, my so and sos,
Speaker 2: you do prep them, and that is kind of standard.
Speaker 2: So I do blame Logan on that, that like ya,
Speaker 2: because then she could have brought her a game and
Speaker 2: be like, oh, Tommy, she told me all about your
Speaker 2: you know, he told me about those other two guys
Speaker 2: were dorks. I thought too. If I may say, they were.
Speaker 4: I will argue to say that I do truly believe
Speaker 4: that Logan was kind of thrilled that Rory was jealous,
Speaker 4: because when he said it, he was smiling like, oh
Speaker 4: you were jealous, you know, like, I think he liked it.
Speaker 2: It's you.
Speaker 1: Games.
Speaker 6: He liked it.
Speaker 2: He likes her.
Speaker 4: He's not think he could have been intentional, is my point.
Speaker 2: Well, I think he intentionally didn't tell her Bobby's a girl,
Speaker 2: and then I think he likes that she was all
Speaker 2: in a dither.
Speaker 6: Well, he also just didn't want her to freak out,
Speaker 6: probably while while he's in London, now that I think
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 2: Also, she spent three hours at the dinner being all
Speaker 2: bitter and then he says one thing and she's fine.
Speaker 2: That was weird too.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, this is completely annoy this is random.
Speaker 3: But when they're walking out, there is a background extra
Speaker 3: who walks straight.
Speaker 8: Into Logan where he literally goes like this to let
Speaker 8: her walk back, if you go back, and I was
Speaker 8: like aggressive, because I mean, if you were supposed to
Speaker 8: be like in New York City busy, I get it.
Speaker 6: But she walks like right up against Matt Zukery where
Speaker 6: he literally moves out of the way for the extra
Speaker 6: if you go back it.
Speaker 2: Also, it's something about shooting on the lot never feels
Speaker 2: like you're actually shooting in the city. It's always a
Speaker 2: little weird.
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, I was like it was like the other
Speaker 6: side of where like Luke's is like.
Speaker 2: Is there a ways not to make the lot look
Speaker 2: actually like an actual place?
Speaker 1: It's it takes a lot of money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it takes some camera angle.
Speaker 3: Ye right, it always looks I think I agree with you, Amy,
Speaker 3: I definitely thought of I was like, oh, Warner Brothers.
Speaker 2: Like, I saw an episode of Quantum Leap the other
Speaker 2: day Rip Quantum Leave got canceled, and I'm like totally
Speaker 2: pissed about it. But there's literally a scene that I'm
Speaker 2: convinced was shot on the Universal Tour. You know, when
Speaker 2: the water comes rushing down and you're like, no, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be caught in this rushing water the damn broke.
Speaker 2: I literally think they shot it there on that very thing,
Speaker 2: And I'm like the.
Speaker 6: Lady music video And do you want to know what else,
Speaker 6: big fat liar?
Speaker 2: No, it was yeah, like right after Jaws. I think
Speaker 2: it's right after you credit that bridge and then it's like,
Speaker 2: oh no, the water and I'm like that is so fake.
Speaker 1: You know, they do have a New York Street or
Speaker 1: in New York section of Warner Brothers back a lot,
Speaker 1: because I went on the tour when we were there,
Speaker 1: uh the new Luke's Coffee Diner, Blens.
Speaker 2: And way to slide that jump. No, I was just
Speaker 2: like it, that's a very well.
Speaker 1: I was just telling you I was there to plug
Speaker 1: the coffee, you know, the Luke's Dinner Blenn And.
Speaker 2: If somebody were to get that, how would they get
Speaker 2: that coffee? Scott, If somebody wanted to get that, do
Speaker 2: they just go to the Warner Brothers store?
Speaker 1: Yes? But then also there's like a big, big sort
Speaker 1: of like thing coming announcement.
Speaker 5: I can't.
Speaker 1: So, but anyway they you know, I went back there
Speaker 1: with James Pettitt and they took us on a tour
Speaker 1: and the whole thing there was a whole New Yorky section.
Speaker 1: So maybe that's maybe that was maybe that night.
Speaker 3: Maybe, But they are because I've done the tour as well,
Speaker 3: and they say they always wet the street to make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, always always sidebar. Should I do that too? Or
Speaker 2: like is it worth it?
Speaker 6: It's fun.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to do that.
Speaker 1: You learn it's a pretty cool tour, but there's nothing
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: Because you know what, Universal, I can't do that too,
Speaker 2: because that thing goes around you and there's no there's
Speaker 2: no I can't like.
Speaker 6: You actually ride the thing around you.
Speaker 4: You go inside a sound stage.
Speaker 2: No, at Universal, you still go in that tunnel and
Speaker 2: that it spins.
Speaker 6: It doesn't do that stage. It doesn't do that anymore.
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers doesn't have rides.
Speaker 2: When King Kong came and the screens are around me
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I gotta pull the lever. I gotta
Speaker 2: get off, my friend.
Speaker 1: You can go inside and you can make some potions.
Speaker 1: Harry Potter.
Speaker 2: Like, do not pull the lever. I'm like, I have
Speaker 2: to get off this tram.
Speaker 6: The Warner Brothers one, you actually get off a lot
Speaker 6: and walk around.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, I'm going to do that. I want to
Speaker 2: do it like vi P. I'm gonna call James put
Speaker 2: it anyway? Continue?
Speaker 4: Oh thank you.
Speaker 5: I actually have an idea. It was funny when when
Speaker 5: we were in New York, so my husband and I
Speaker 5: had never been to New York before, and so we're
Speaker 5: on We're with the school groups. So we were on
Speaker 5: a tour bus and as we're like rolling through Manhattan like.
Speaker 2: Susan like, it looks no better way to see New York.
Speaker 5: Than we were shop running a high school trip. But
Speaker 5: it was funny because my husband's looking around and goes,
Speaker 5: it looks just like the Warner backflop.
Speaker 6: That's funny.
Speaker 5: I guess, I guess Warner did a good job. Then. Okay,
Speaker 5: so now we're in uh the car on the way
Speaker 5: to Friday night dinner. So the Mustang is gone. Now
Speaker 5: we're back in the Volvo and Lorelei is uh picking
Speaker 5: on Chris for his choice of music. Now, did you
Speaker 5: guys hear what song was playing?
Speaker 6: When was playing?
Speaker 2: It was a skid row? So yeah, oh that's funny.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: I just Jewel.
Speaker 6: Jewel was the last scene. Amy they put all their.
Speaker 2: Money into like clearing those songs, although they only played
Speaker 2: ten seconds of each one. But I'm like, again, okay,
Speaker 2: can I just vent about the pop culture for a minute?
Speaker 6: Is it forced?
Speaker 2: It's not good. It's so forced every single it's like, literally,
Speaker 2: this is what I thought about the other day. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've already told you guys this
Speaker 2: because they get confused about what we TechEd and whatever.
Speaker 2: It's like they do a script and then somebody in
Speaker 2: the meetings like, hey, we better squeeze twenty pop culture
Speaker 2: references in, and then they're just like shoving them in.
Speaker 2: Where what was so genius about the first six seasons
Speaker 2: is how like subtle they were and how organic they were,
Speaker 2: and how like some of them you didn't even totally
Speaker 2: get because they were so perfect and fast.
Speaker 1: There you go, Scott, it's these these it's Gilmour like,
Speaker 1: it's just it's not the genuine article because there's no
Speaker 1: Amy and Dan. So it's a little clunky and awkward,
Speaker 1: and there are pockets of funny things and it's you know, there's,
Speaker 1: like I said, there's some great writers on this, but
Speaker 1: without Amy and Dan's special sauce, it's hard. You can't
Speaker 1: replicate that. You just can't do it. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of I think that's what everybody's feeling watching season seven,
Speaker 1: where it's like there's some great writers on this staff
Speaker 1: and they're writing funny stuff, but it's a it's different
Speaker 1: how it's set up, it's different, how it's delivered, it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's all just kind of different, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's good in its own way, but we don't
Speaker 1: necessarily recognize it.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's yeah, it's not right, it's not Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: not clever anyway.
Speaker 5: So sorry, I gotta a break. They're pinging me to
Speaker 5: join a meeting at work that's already in progress.
Speaker 2: So please do this, don't. We'll just continue. We'll miss you,
Speaker 2: but we'll continue. Danielle, can you take it over?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: Never, No, you're gonna say, oh sure, oh my god.
Speaker 2: You give it a go, You give it a go.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 6: I can't follow Susanne, I.
Speaker 2: Know because she adds those tidbits that I know, and.
Speaker 6: I don't have a This scene was from this episode.
Speaker 2: Give me the scenes and I can help.
Speaker 6: Okay, So we're almost done.
Speaker 2: She's not missing that much.
Speaker 3: So Emily serves the lamb because it's special and love
Speaker 3: and Laura I and wants to place I love.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and like they're all in a fight, and
Speaker 2: Emily and Richard are having the time of their lives
Speaker 2: because they don't even realize they're in a fight, and
Speaker 2: just like it's so polite in the whole thing. And
Speaker 2: then I laughed when she said, please step into the
Speaker 2: bathroom with me, and I'm like, oh, that's funny.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then uh, Richard proposes a toast to Loralai
Speaker 6: and Christopher.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know Scott hated it all, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just like Emily and Richard, you guys talk yourself.
Speaker 6: I have nothing to ask you gotta hated it so much.
Speaker 2: I didn't mind all this.
Speaker 4: I agree with with Scott when he said this in
Speaker 4: the beginning, that he's always excited to see Emily and Richard,
Speaker 4: and in this I'm like, no, like Emily and Richard,
Speaker 4: you guys always give people a hard time, Like can
Speaker 4: you please give Christopher a hard time just a little bit.
Speaker 3: The only reason why I'm okay with it is because
Speaker 3: it's expected from them with Christopher, like they've always wanted
Speaker 3: as much as a train, Like.
Speaker 4: At what point are you like my daughter was about
Speaker 4: to marry somebody else six weeks ago, and now she's
Speaker 4: dating her baby daddy, Like, at what point do you
Speaker 4: like step in like, hey, Lauraa, are you good?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know. I think any other parent it
Speaker 4: would be questioning this.
Speaker 6: I agree, but I also think it's jazz. It's so
Speaker 6: about like, oh well, he's the son of these people,
Speaker 6: you know what, those terrible parents, which they don't like.
Speaker 2: They don't even like that guy. They hate that guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think they're just jazz because it's like their dream
Speaker 2: and he's, as Scott always says, like of the caliber
Speaker 2: they want whatever. I didn't hate those scenes though, and
Speaker 2: I actually sort of thought it was amusing when they
Speaker 2: make up and Rory shows up, and I didn't mind it.
Speaker 2: I giggled a little bit when Emily's like, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Like she was so clueless to the whole thing that
Speaker 2: they were in a big tiff.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Scott, I'm on your paget this whole
Speaker 4: this whole portion of episodes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this last well, and then it just felt very forced.
Speaker 3: And by the way, the scene right after this that
Speaker 3: the force after that after the dinner was the Manhattan
Speaker 3: Look dinner.
Speaker 6: But we already talked about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went out of order.
Speaker 6: But when the three of them Lorelei.
Speaker 3: Rory, and Christopher are sitting on the couch and then
Speaker 3: they're like, oh my god, do you want to see
Speaker 3: mom's mugshot?
Speaker 2: That was funny.
Speaker 3: It was funny, but I also was just like, I
Speaker 3: don't like that they're all enjoyed, like that was the
Speaker 3: one seemed around like, oh come on.
Speaker 2: I was like not even mad about that because it's
Speaker 2: like so hilarious she went to jail. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess my other problem with it is logistics. How
Speaker 2: is Rory And I don't I'm not from the East Coast,
Speaker 2: so I don't know. But how is Rory getting from
Speaker 2: Yale to Manhattan and then back to like wherever they
Speaker 2: live all this fast by dessert?
Speaker 1: I'm going to look it up right now, right because
Speaker 1: she went through a whole dinner with him, and he
Speaker 1: was leaving at ten thirty or something.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's got to be midnight. Like what is
Speaker 2: happening the way.
Speaker 1: I'm looking this at God, Well, yeah, she just disappeared
Speaker 1: like they just appear in The Brady Bunch.
Speaker 4: But this is the part where Christopher invites Laurli to
Speaker 4: go to Paris, and I think I think Christopher is
Speaker 4: giving her everything Luke wasn't giving her in this moment,
Speaker 4: even though we all get the ick from it. I
Speaker 4: think I think Laurel I is is drawn to the
Speaker 4: fact that he's including her in something that Luke pushed
Speaker 4: her away from. Anybody.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, give me that one more time.
Speaker 2: I didn't follow. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: Think that she is.
Speaker 4: I think she is drawn to the fact that Christopher
Speaker 4: is including her in something that Luke is pushing her
Speaker 4: or pushed her away from.
Speaker 6: He was craving that from Luke and never got it.
Speaker 4: So this is Andry is giving it on a silver
Speaker 4: platter in Paris.
Speaker 1: Wont to do everything. Also, just an update because you
Speaker 1: can afford a silver platter. So there.
Speaker 3: It takes two hours and thirty minutes to get from
Speaker 3: Manhattan to Hartford, so you're.
Speaker 2: Long from Yale. It's totally right. It's all bananas. It's
Speaker 2: like totally crazy. I don't even think Rory needed to
Speaker 2: show up. No, but she showed up because we had
Speaker 2: to get that car scene.
Speaker 4: Because she's going to pair us too.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming right, No, not necessarily, but we had to
Speaker 2: get that car scene.
Speaker 4: Oh I took and the car he's going to go
Speaker 4: to and then Rory's going to visit.
Speaker 3: Oh, I got it.
Speaker 2: Look at us, we're a happy family.
Speaker 6: That's how I took it to I think finally, after.
Speaker 2: This many years, twenty one years, We're finally a happy
Speaker 2: family in a car together, and that's why Loralai gives
Speaker 2: that sort of smirk.
Speaker 1: Here's my commentary. This is me walking off the set.
Speaker 1: Here we go. You you wrap it? Okay?
Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about the deleted scene before
Speaker 2: you leave?
Speaker 1: I don't want. I'm protesting this whole episode. I'm done
Speaker 1: with this.
Speaker 2: That's It's like when someone dramatically wants the view. I'm
Speaker 2: walking off.
Speaker 4: Give us your mic drop, Scott, give it us.
Speaker 2: I'll get my thoughts. The cars was enjoyable because I
Speaker 2: too sort of had a moment of like, oh that
Speaker 2: is sweet. Like they're all three in the car together.
Speaker 2: This is the first time they've all three been like
Speaker 2: a real family, and the parents are together and like
Speaker 2: a lot of people want their parents to be together,
Speaker 2: and Laura Lai sort of realizes.
Speaker 4: It, but not Rory if you think about it, she
Speaker 4: does has corrector not wanted them to get this.
Speaker 2: Sort of seems in on it. She's smiling and happy
Speaker 2: and bopping her head and he's bopping his head and
Speaker 2: Lorlai gives that sort of look of like, yeah, you know, wow,
Speaker 2: my family, She's gonna.
Speaker 4: Do that, right, guys, because it's like we've seen this twice,
Speaker 4: yeah already, just like, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's gonna go up and down for you.
Speaker 3: I think the reason for me that it's inconsistent with Rory,
Speaker 3: like because I got the same thing Amy that.
Speaker 6: She's like, oh, happy family.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, that's inconsistent because the end of even
Speaker 3: a couple episodes ago, she's like, I can't believe you
Speaker 3: did this with Dad, and it's like it's.
Speaker 6: But it's kind of like the writers like forgot what
Speaker 6: they wrote like three episodes, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Well, of course, right, they're right, they're everybody. Everything's poofing
Speaker 2: away in a in a blink, right like.
Speaker 4: This whole freaking season. Yeah, oh Lore like Crystopher.
Speaker 2: And then let's talk about the deleted scene. Okay, wait,
Speaker 2: Scott's back. Scott. We haven't done the deleted scene yet,
Speaker 2: but I think you could. You could handle it. So
Speaker 2: so the deleted scene is actually kind of amazing. It's
Speaker 2: that Luke built a bonfire. Tell me if I'm getting
Speaker 2: it right, because I saw kind of like a version
Speaker 2: of it, built a bonfire to get rid of April
Speaker 2: came up with the idea because it can get rid
Speaker 2: of the smell, right, So the whole town's around the
Speaker 2: bonfire and Taylor's losing his mind because there's open flame
Speaker 2: or whatever it is, and April's explaining the science of it,
Speaker 2: and then he sees them driving. Is that right? And
Speaker 2: that's a gut punch. I actually think they should have
Speaker 2: wished they should.
Speaker 4: Have been the last scene. I totally better than the
Speaker 4: dumb car scene, so much better.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just ended with nothing.
Speaker 2: The way the Palladinos used to do it that we
Speaker 2: always talked about was like, you think you got to
Speaker 2: the end, so you think the end is the three
Speaker 2: of them in the car, And the deleted scene would
Speaker 2: have been so much better because it always gives you another.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that because they couldn't have the bonfire in
Speaker 1: there and then cut all three of them smiling and
Speaker 1: happy as a family.
Speaker 6: But before I.
Speaker 1: Thought that was the last, very last scene, right, I
Speaker 1: think it was.
Speaker 2: I think you would have had the car scene with
Speaker 2: the three of them and then you cut to the bonfire.
Speaker 2: I mean they must have out of time because there
Speaker 2: would have needed to be some sort of bonfire.
Speaker 4: Set up if you were taking out the Paris, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. There's much more you could have
Speaker 4: put it.
Speaker 6: But at the very end of the car scene, if
Speaker 6: you remember, they all made that face like the stink,
Speaker 6: so it actually would have had to be.
Speaker 2: Right they're smelling the smell, no, because they've rolled back
Speaker 2: into stars Halloup and they're smelling the smell, and then
Speaker 2: you cut to the bomb fire at the bomb.
Speaker 6: Trying to make the smell drive by, right.
Speaker 2: I I think it would have been a better episode
Speaker 2: with the scene in for sure.
Speaker 6: You're right, Daniell cut the Yale scene.
Speaker 4: We didn't need it, and like April saying something like
Speaker 4: is that Laura and you know something like that, A.
Speaker 2: Bunch of that dinner. I don't even think you need
Speaker 2: April saying it because we know Luke season cut a
Speaker 2: bunch of that Bobby dinner. That thing went on way
Speaker 2: too long.
Speaker 1: I liked Bobby.
Speaker 2: I like Bobby fine, I didn't like Rory. I dropped
Speaker 2: my pen I don't know where my pen is.
Speaker 4: And shambles over here again.
Speaker 6: Are we gonna really? I have like whiplash from this
Speaker 6: like episode, I've.
Speaker 2: Dropped my pen I can't even take notes. Yes, I
Speaker 2: don't have any, because there's any good ones. Give your give,
Speaker 2: your give, your rating.
Speaker 1: You to go first, Danielle. You've been calling.
Speaker 6: TV how many seven gave.
Speaker 2: More than me?
Speaker 6: Okay, I I'm a tad lower.
Speaker 3: I'm giving it seven Rory textbooks, I'm giving it seven.
Speaker 4: Are you writing this is seven?
Speaker 2: The only reason why seven air fresheners around Gypsy's Now.
Speaker 6: That's a good one. I love the Bobby stuff and
Speaker 6: I loved the I like the Logan stuff. Saved the
Speaker 6: episode for me, respectfully disagree.
Speaker 2: The Bobby stuff was so not good, not good. I
Speaker 2: would have I would have watched two hours of Friday
Speaker 2: Night Dinner compared to.
Speaker 1: Bobby, Go Bobby, Go Bobby.
Speaker 6: But the Logan there were so.
Speaker 2: Good. And those two fools that work at the company,
Speaker 2: they were so caricaturing.
Speaker 1: I was like, they were awesome. It was a little cheesy,
Speaker 1: they were so awesome.
Speaker 4: They were I work for Logan. This season would be
Speaker 4: bust like legitimately Dog if.
Speaker 3: He was still in London on the phone this episode,
Speaker 3: I think we would have all given up and coming
Speaker 3: to tell.
Speaker 2: What is next week?
Speaker 5: Hold on?
Speaker 1: I have to give yes very valuable.
Speaker 4: Negative five.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna split the baby in half and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a fiver. I guess you know.
Speaker 1: I got some chuckles out of this. I got some chuckles.
Speaker 4: What's your measuring stick?
Speaker 1: Five really large, stinky barrels of rotten pickles. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm giving, right, that's going to be a wrap on
Speaker 1: this great stink. And it certainly was half of it anyway. Uh,
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