Speaker 1: Second day. You know, we've talked about people getting back
Speaker 1: into the dating game after being out of it for
Speaker 1: a while, but we don't normally speak to people on
Speaker 1: this segment who are using dating apps for the very
Speaker 1: first time ever. Every it's like a time warp. If
Speaker 1: you haven't dated since twenty ten and you met somebody
Speaker 1: at a grocery store. Nowadays, you're getting an eggplant, all right,
Speaker 1: but it's a digital one, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: you even wanted it in the first place. But that's
Speaker 1: what happened with Rachel. Recently. She emailed us saying this
Speaker 1: is her very first time being on a dating app,
Speaker 1: and she actually met a great guy who's somehow not
Speaker 1: calling her back. So Rachel, welcome, Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious because I've ever been on dating apps, right,
Speaker 1: because I met my husband like before, they were huge,
Speaker 1: Like what is it like for your first time? It
Speaker 1: made me feel kind of old too, though, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had been in a relationship since the college, so
Speaker 1: says you know what I mean? Done, so, like I
Speaker 1: just completely knew for me and when I got flooded
Speaker 1: with all these guys, it was exciting. It kind of
Speaker 1: boosted my ego, but it took me about like two
Speaker 1: and a half weeks to find someone that actually fit
Speaker 1: all of my criteria and that was Jack. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you messaged him, so he reached out to me. So
Speaker 1: I thought that was vulnerable, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like that's pretty hardcore and not at all but thousands,
Speaker 1: but that's okay, he said, Hey, he's like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's so. I mean, how long did it take you
Speaker 1: to go out with him? Like between talking to him
Speaker 1: on the app and then the actual date actually about
Speaker 1: five days So we started kind of like Sunday Monday
Speaker 1: talking and then that weekend he was free and I
Speaker 1: was free. So even okay, And I feel like a
Speaker 1: weekend date is a big commitment date. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like using your weekend for that. I'll take any day
Speaker 1: of the week. I think single people think anytime is
Speaker 1: a good time. Ye married people like, my weekend is
Speaker 1: my own time. So what did you guys end up doing? Rachel?
Speaker 1: So we ended up going to dinner? Okay, it was
Speaker 1: really really sweet. We met there. So I took an
Speaker 1: uber And what was that like for you? Because it's
Speaker 1: like your first dating, nothing is amazing it's her first
Speaker 1: dating map, it's the first guy she's met this, Like,
Speaker 1: I would be so nervous if I were you, just
Speaker 1: because god, that's a lot. It's a lot. I'm a
Speaker 1: huge fan of broad City, and I felt like I
Speaker 1: was in bost City. What was the actual date? Like,
Speaker 1: oh well, he was just such a gentleman, like he
Speaker 1: was dreaming. He was such a good listener to you guys, Like,
Speaker 1: oh that's important. He was, Yeah, yeah, it's important. He
Speaker 1: did your ex come up a lot, because I mean,
Speaker 1: you did mention to us that you were together for
Speaker 1: a really really long time. It did, because, like I said,
Speaker 1: it was over a decade and he's saying that came up.
Speaker 1: He seemed to roll with it and it didn't seem
Speaker 1: to bother him. I mean, because here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: was upfront with him from the getto and I told
Speaker 1: him straightforward that I'm not going to go home with him.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, this is like immediately after the handshaker, When
Speaker 1: is this? This was like after the first appetexer, you know,
Speaker 1: because I wanted to kind of loosen things up, but
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to get too loose, if you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Okay, but that also sounds good.
Speaker 1: You want to set boundaries and he should. It could
Speaker 1: also come across as rude, though, like you're also assuming
Speaker 1: that that's all he's looking for, you know, like Brooks
Speaker 1: only saying that because she never never crossed her, so
Speaker 1: he could have been insulted by that was his reaction.
Speaker 1: Were you able to gauge it. He was taken aback,
Speaker 1: but he said he wasn't expect anything, So maybe, like
Speaker 1: you said, it just kind of threw him off or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I mean, here's the thing. When you talked about
Speaker 1: bringing up my ex for the first time, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't cry, guys, you know I was on the day.
Speaker 1: I'm glad teared up whenever I think of Dylan. You know,
Speaker 1: that's my my ex and I've been broken up. I
Speaker 1: hear Rachel crying right now. You've been just mentioning it.
Speaker 1: That's hard. You probably were still emotional then. If you're
Speaker 1: just like just now not crying talking about him, I
Speaker 1: think maybe that the drinks didn't help, you know. Do
Speaker 1: you think that that's why Jack isn't calling you back.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, he was, like I said,
Speaker 1: he didn't see it like he didn't seem like he
Speaker 1: was weirded out by it at all, and good, No,
Speaker 1: it seems kind. We all know you obviously didn't hook up,
Speaker 1: but did you guys like kiss or hug or like
Speaker 1: do anything else that's like intimate. No, he was a gentleman,
Speaker 1: so we did like this side hid thing side I
Speaker 1: hug like I do it all my friends. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: a good sign. It was my first date, Like, I
Speaker 1: haven't been in an real, imperson date in over a decade.
Speaker 1: But give me. Yeah, we're we're just sorry. We've heard
Speaker 1: a lot of dating stories, but your sounds very nice,
Speaker 1: especially for your first time back into the dating pool,
Speaker 1: first time on a dating app. So let's let's play
Speaker 1: a song we'll give not doing uh oh Jack Jack.
Speaker 1: I am so sorry. I promise you, Rachel, I will
Speaker 1: not call him Dylan. In fact, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: the last time I ever say Dylan on this show. Okay,
Speaker 1: what a song. We'll come back and we'll call it
Speaker 1: Jack for you, not Dylan. Right after this second date,
Speaker 1: dialing a number if you're just joining us for the
Speaker 1: second date. We're talking to Rachel, who went on her
Speaker 1: first first date in a very long time. Yeah, she said,
Speaker 1: it's been more than a decade since she's gone on one,
Speaker 1: and she's never been on a dating app before. This
Speaker 1: was her first time on a dating app and that
Speaker 1: was a little bit overwhelming, which is understandable. In fact,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do an impression right now of a guy
Speaker 1: seeing fresh meat on a dating down. Oh yeah, oh
Speaker 1: a newbie. We're gonna stay at Applebee's for twenty minutes
Speaker 1: and then go back to my mom's house and she's
Speaker 1: gonna watch me play Mario kart oh Man. So it's
Speaker 1: like she was dating college all over again. Jack, who
Speaker 1: she met, wasn't like that. He was different. He was
Speaker 1: a gentleman. And how do I know that they were
Speaker 1: a good match because Rachel said she didn't cry once
Speaker 1: during their entire cry about her ex, well cry in
Speaker 1: general tears. So, Rachel, we're about to give Jack a call.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling? Honestly, I'm hoping for the best.
Speaker 1: There was nothing but positive vibes. So I feel like
Speaker 1: something happened, maybe at his job or family. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hope it's getting's okay, but he's just perfect. And
Speaker 1: also it's like, you know this is new to you.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of options out there that you haven't
Speaker 1: even exploded. Kept talking. That's how you get over people. Jazz.
Speaker 1: There is one thing that doesn't change in dating, and
Speaker 1: that's vibes. Like you can tell if something happened on
Speaker 1: the date. You can pinpoint a moment usually, so you
Speaker 1: don't feel like there was something, then maybe there was.
Speaker 1: She hasn't even really a dated in her adult life.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've had the same boyfriend since you were
Speaker 1: in college, you know, like just want you to make
Speaker 1: up for lost time. But okay, let's call Jack. You
Speaker 1: know what, We're just gonna stop projecting our feelings and
Speaker 1: our failed relationships onto you. We're just gonna dial Jack
Speaker 1: and see what he has to say. Okay, okay, okay, Yeah, Hello,
Speaker 1: Hey is this Jack? Yeah? This is Jack. Who's this?
Speaker 1: Hey Jack? My name is Jeff from the radio show
Speaker 1: Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning. Hello. Oh that's that's
Speaker 1: my co host Brook, who just jumped in with a
Speaker 1: weird voice. No, it just sounded like how he was
Speaker 1: hitting on us when he answered the phone. So I
Speaker 1: was like returning the favorite Jack. Oh yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's interesting because like it was an unknown number, right,
Speaker 1: were you expecting someone else on the phone? Jack, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: what is this all about? You're very confused. This lady
Speaker 1: is walking at you and kind of hitting on you
Speaker 1: at a certain time. So we're a morning radio show
Speaker 1: and we're doing a segment called a second Date Update
Speaker 1: where we're trying to help one of our listeners get
Speaker 1: in touch with you after you went out. Oh geez
Speaker 1: u sounds like fun right? All right, Um, what do
Speaker 1: you what do you need from me? Well, we heard
Speaker 1: a lot of good things about you, so that's a
Speaker 1: good start, and we heard them from one of our
Speaker 1: listeners name Rachel. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, So tell us
Speaker 1: what you thought about Rachel? Um? I mean Rachel? Was
Speaker 1: she's cool, she's nice? Um? Would she attracted me? Were
Speaker 1: you attracted to her? Did you feel like you guys
Speaker 1: had some chemistry? Yeah? You know. Uh, I think she's beautiful,
Speaker 1: she's really cool, and I think maybe she's just going
Speaker 1: through a lot right now and working through stuff. But
Speaker 1: what do you mean? I was not prepared to talk
Speaker 1: about this, It's okay. I mean she told some stuff
Speaker 1: about like her X and maybe how she talked about
Speaker 1: that on the date She's had a lot of really
Speaker 1: nice things about you, about how you're a great guy
Speaker 1: and a good listener. She said, you're a great listener.
Speaker 1: Well that's super nice of her. Um. I she was
Speaker 1: just really specific about what she wants and a guy,
Speaker 1: and uh kind of went on and on about how
Speaker 1: I fit those things, and that was that wasn't good
Speaker 1: to you. I mean it's nice, it is nice. Um,
Speaker 1: I think it was just like a little much at
Speaker 1: some point. Uh, what was much like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: first dates are supposed to be a little more chill
Speaker 1: and steer the conversation toward things that are maybe more
Speaker 1: fun and getting to know each other, and it was
Speaker 1: just basically at one point I was like, look, I
Speaker 1: just want to get to know you, you know, And
Speaker 1: she smiled, and she reached in her purse and handed
Speaker 1: me an index card. Okay, what was on the index card?
Speaker 1: Index cards are sexy? Yeah? Is it a recipe from
Speaker 1: her grandma or something? I kind of wish it was? Um.
Speaker 1: On top, it said physical boundaries and kind of listed
Speaker 1: all these physical things that she would allow, and she
Speaker 1: also listed them by date. Oh you mean like like
Speaker 1: first kiss, three dates in you can touch a butt
Speaker 1: four dates exactly. Wow, really, oh my gosh, a lot
Speaker 1: of planning. Do you have the card? Yeah? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Date one fist bump, fist bump, i'd hug and high five.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, send me the card before the day. Yea.
Speaker 1: From from what we heard, it sounded like you did
Speaker 1: that side hug on the first day. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we definitely we did. Actually we did do. Yeah. How
Speaker 1: was it? Oh, it was exactly what you did expect
Speaker 1: from OK. So it wasn't necessarily her boundaries, it was
Speaker 1: the way they were presented. Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I think it's cool, like her therapist says, always create
Speaker 1: boundaries what she told me, you know, and I think
Speaker 1: it's super healthy. That's great, But it's just not what
Speaker 1: I'm looking for. It's just a little much to me.
Speaker 1: And especially talking about on the first date like that.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe there's a more organic way to work
Speaker 1: in your boundaries, Like what's more organic than having her
Speaker 1: beyond the radio with you and tell her her boundaries
Speaker 1: right now because she's been on the other line listening
Speaker 1: Jack and she wants to talk to you. No, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: she's not respecting your boundary in that way, No, Jack, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had such a great time. I mean, you you're
Speaker 1: such as we your heart. You just told me that
Speaker 1: you you like like you think I'm attractive, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to be a great communicator, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like no gray areas. I thought you
Speaker 1: would appreciate to know exactly what I want what I meeting,
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm not I'm not trying to play game.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a hot pitch right there. I like it. Jack.
Speaker 1: Feel free to respond Rachel Rachel. Okay, look, this is
Speaker 1: a I can't believe you're we're on the radio right now.
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. Um, ridiculous. Is a little offensive to me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's very It's just even though I think
Speaker 1: you're a great person, you were clearly physically attractive, and
Speaker 1: it's just like the chemistry was just not there, you know,
Speaker 1: And like the way this this whole boundary note card
Speaker 1: thing was was brought up, it just kind of killed
Speaker 1: the vibe. And I know, maybe, dude, do you know
Speaker 1: how many times a note card would have saved me
Speaker 1: on one of my Craigslist meetups, whether or not, like
Speaker 1: you think it's if it's going too far, it's like
Speaker 1: taking the spontaneity out of it. She's just trying to
Speaker 1: show you what she's comfortable with doing before things get awkward.
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, it's her first day in a really,
Speaker 1: really long time, so she's just trying to get her
Speaker 1: feedback under her. It doesn't mean you need to be
Speaker 1: a robot. It's like when I walked through your car,
Speaker 1: I have to pull out the note card and check
Speaker 1: what I can do. If it's like five hugs. You
Speaker 1: said we didn't have any chemistry, but I guarantee that
Speaker 1: server what it told you different, And to be honest,
Speaker 1: it's your loss because after date number five, things really
Speaker 1: open up. Oh I was out on the card. Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: I mean the thing about Rachel, she sounds like someone
Speaker 1: who's very organized and maybe very different from you and
Speaker 1: could really bring some other aspects to your life that
Speaker 1: you don't have. Right now, let's get to the second
Speaker 1: day on your note card so we can get to
Speaker 1: some of that other stuff because we'd like to pay
Speaker 1: for that. What do you say, Jack, give it another
Speaker 1: shot happen? Rachel? I just I think it's cool that
Speaker 1: you think we had chemistry. I just think that like
Speaker 1: a lot of the fun was kind of drained out
Speaker 1: of it as soon as those boundaries came up and
Speaker 1: give her a second chance. On the second day, she
Speaker 1: knows that already she doesn't have a second note card,
Speaker 1: do you, Rachel, you have another note? Not anymore? No,
Speaker 1: it's a pencil. Maybe you could just change. She's funny.
Speaker 1: She's funny. Jack, all right, you know, if we can
Speaker 1: start over, If we can start over, and it's like
Speaker 1: a punch card, you're gonna get a freelance. So are
Speaker 1: you just saying yes? Is that what you're saying, Jack?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Okay, I'll say yes, but I'll pretend
Speaker 1: like the card never happened. Okay, she still Jack, I'm
Speaker 1: actually excited and I'm really happy that I was vulnerable
Speaker 1: and call it the station. Thank you guys. You barely
Speaker 1: cried once during this entire call. That must mean it
Speaker 1: was a positive experience. Yeah, just don't say that code
Speaker 1: word that makes her cry. It's stilling. Oh God, Broke
Speaker 1: and Jeffrey in the morning