WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 12

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz,

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<v Speaker 1>where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>sports stories of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz.

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<v Speaker 2>Not so fast, my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Andrew Perloff.

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<v Speaker 3>He's Paul Paps. Paul, there was no football on last night.

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<v Speaker 3>The first Tuesday of the regular season can be really tough.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, six straight days of NFL or college football. There

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<v Speaker 5>was no MAAC football on last night. So we pivoted.

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<v Speaker 5>We pivoted. You and I were texting each other. Let's

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<v Speaker 5>catch up on our baseball and... Congratulations to the Milwaukee Brewers.

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<v Speaker 5>They're very likable and lovable Milwaukee Brewers. They win the

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<v Speaker 5>division again. They celebrate. The Brewers, weirdly, again, have the

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<v Speaker 5>best record in baseball, even though they spend like half

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<v Speaker 5>what the Dodgers do.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I know there's a feel-good element to the Brewers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to get fooled again. I pulled some

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<v Speaker 3>of our balls. They've been in the playoffs seven times

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<v Speaker 3>since 2018, and they've won two series. They do not

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<v Speaker 3>win once they get into the postseason.

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<v Speaker 5>If you don't have a dog in the fight, the

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<v Speaker 5>Brewers are a very root-for-able team. That's an actual phrase.

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<v Speaker 5>Great unis. Mizorowski will get to him. They've been close.

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<v Speaker 5>They could topple the all-powerful Dodgers, possibly.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear what you're saying, but I've been behind the

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<v Speaker 3>Brewers for about three decades, and they've never delivered for me.

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<v Speaker 5>That 82 Brewers team, what a great team they had.

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<v Speaker 5>They almost won the World Series. Those are prime Brewer days.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me? Robin Yount? You want to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about Cecil Cooper?

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<v Speaker 5>Paulie Molitor?

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<v Speaker 4>Ben Ogilvie? We could go on and on.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're kind of a pitching team, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>little weird.

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<v Speaker 5>Good squad, good thing. But the other great thing about baseball,

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<v Speaker 5>with only two weeks left, technically all the teams alive

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<v Speaker 5>for the playoffs— Rays, Yanks are in. Red Sox, Orioles,

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<v Speaker 5>White Sox, Guardians, Tigers is still eligible. Astros, Rangers, Braves, Phillies, Cubs, Padres, D-backs.

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<v Speaker 5>The Padres just won like seven in a row. But

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<v Speaker 5>there's so many teams alive. It's just good for the sport.

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<v Speaker 5>Going back a generation ago before the wild card, most

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<v Speaker 5>teams were out of it at this juncture.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's kind of sad to see teams that are

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<v Speaker 3>75 and 76 on this graphic.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe there's too many teams involved. Also, Dan brought up

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<v Speaker 4>a great point.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it really all about the Dodgers and the entire

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<v Speaker 3>league trying to catch up with them? Once the postseason starts,

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<v Speaker 3>is L.A.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to win it all easily?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Or can any of these teams that we're looking at

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<v Speaker 3>now make some noise?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, DP talked about that earlier in the Dan Patrick show,

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<v Speaker 5>and he said that the Dodgers, they're going to be

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<v Speaker 5>in it every year, but they don't necessarily are going

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<v Speaker 5>to win it every year. They're just eligible. Like a

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<v Speaker 5>White Sox, they get in the playoffs once every 10

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<v Speaker 5>years at best. But the Dodgers came this close, literally

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<v Speaker 5>this close from losing it last year to the Blue Jays.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I look at that pitching staff with Scooble and Yamamoto,

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<v Speaker 3>and you go on and on. They seem unbeatable on paper.

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<v Speaker 5>And Yamamoto pitches complete games in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah. All right. Well, let's talk some football as well.

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<v Speaker 3>We're one week in, and we try not to overreact,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're ready to overreact. Let's talk about, Paul, the

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<v Speaker 3>one contender in the AFC that impressed you the most.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I go first?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I know there are a lot of big games. I

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<v Speaker 3>know the Bills won a huge game over the Texans.

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<v Speaker 3>I know the Chiefs look dominant over the Broncos, who

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<v Speaker 3>I have in the Super Bowl. But to me, the

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<v Speaker 3>one team that blew me away was Baltimore. They could

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<v Speaker 3>beat you in every possible way. Lamar Jackson running, throwing.

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<v Speaker 3>Derrick Henry looks like he's 25, not 32. Zay Flowers,

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<v Speaker 3>I know he got hurt a little bit. He's dominant

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<v Speaker 3>in a wide receiver. Here's one number to throw at you.

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<v Speaker 3>When they did a play action with Lamar under center...

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<v Speaker 3>Lamar was 7 of 8 for 128 yards. Love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Because if you're a defense, what do you do, Paul?

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<v Speaker 3>You have to worry about Derrick Henry, but you have

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<v Speaker 3>to worry about Lamar both running and throwing the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an impossible situation, and the defense looked great as well.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think you're debunking yourself because you always said

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<v Speaker 5>you love the Ravens in the regular season, not the postseason.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I said I wouldn't be fooled by the Brewers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting fooled by the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you have any other contenders in the AFC?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I do like the Chiefs. I like the Bills,

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<v Speaker 3>the favorites. It feels like we're sort of in a

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<v Speaker 3>flashback to two years ago or three years ago when

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<v Speaker 3>those were the teams that were always there. To me,

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<v Speaker 3>it's those three are at the top. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>can I say the fact that Mike McDonald won in

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<v Speaker 3>Seattle makes me think Jesse Minter can win in Baltimore

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<v Speaker 3>and new offensive coordinator Declan Doyle. Looks really good. What

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<v Speaker 3>a great start. So some new blood in the coaching

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<v Speaker 3>side really gets me into Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's why they're different in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, my AFC team or AFC contender that impressed

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<v Speaker 5>me the most, I'm not going to go with the

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<v Speaker 5>Ravens because they did what I kind of expected them

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<v Speaker 5>to do. That's what they do in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to go with the Jaguars, but I can't

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<v Speaker 5>because they did it against the Browns. But it's weird

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<v Speaker 5>because I feel bad not giving the Jaguars their flowers.

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<v Speaker 5>Very good season, not a good postseason last year. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's weird because they have star power. Trevor Lawrence had

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<v Speaker 5>star power. Does he still have it? Still got the hair.

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<v Speaker 5>Travis Hunter not playing both ways, that takes a little

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<v Speaker 5>of his star power away. But I'm not going with

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<v Speaker 5>the Jaguars because they did it against the Browns. I've

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<v Speaker 5>got to see it for a few more weeks. I

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<v Speaker 5>am going with the Chiefs for a couple reasons. I

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<v Speaker 5>love the addition of Ken Walker. We call him Ken

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<v Speaker 5>Walker here on Not So Fast. And it gives him

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<v Speaker 5>such an element. Mahomes ran that play in the other day,

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<v Speaker 5>and he looks great. Does he look tentative at times,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe not ready to cut it loose downfield. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's about his cast, not his ability to throw downfield.

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<v Speaker 5>Xavier Worthy is supposed to be a deep threat. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>still waiting. I like him when he gets the ball

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<v Speaker 5>in the running game sometimes on those jet sweeps. My

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<v Speaker 5>only concern about the Chiefs, not the defense, not the

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<v Speaker 5>running game, not Mahomes, do they have an A-level receiver

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<v Speaker 5>for the postseason? And I don't think they do.

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<v Speaker 3>Rasheed Rice is coming off a knee injury. You could

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<v Speaker 3>tell he was a little slower. He could be an

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<v Speaker 3>A-level receiver. Second half of the season, he's healthy. Travis

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<v Speaker 3>Kelsey also looked really good.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to get ahead of myself.

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<v Speaker 5>Good for a guy of his age and his speed.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought he looked just good, good. And you've seen

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<v Speaker 4>Mahomes win with not great receivers in the past. I

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<v Speaker 4>would not knock them off for that reason.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I know we have to get to NFC, but

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to call for a 20 here. Let me

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<v Speaker 5>suggest this to you. What if the Chiefs around week

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<v Speaker 5>seven realize we have a team, clearly they have a

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<v Speaker 5>team that can compete for a title. They do every year.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's hit the trademark and get the best wide receiver possible.

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<v Speaker 5>And let me throw this scenario at you. The Vikings

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<v Speaker 5>had a good week one. Probably won't work out that well.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's say the Vikings are three and five after eight games.

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<v Speaker 5>Do the Vikings put Justin Jefferson on the market. You're

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<v Speaker 5>spending a lot of money. You can get out all

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<v Speaker 5>your books and reset your franchise next year at the

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<v Speaker 5>wide receiver and quarterback position. And the Chiefs step up

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<v Speaker 5>and trade whatever. You'll give whatever for Justin Jefferson.

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<v Speaker 4>This seems like something that you say in a bar

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<v Speaker 4>to a buddy.

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<v Speaker 5>This does seem sports radio-ish.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or not even sports radio. Like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>I was a GM, I'd trade for Justin Jefferson. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure the Vikings have gotten calls about him in the

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<v Speaker 3>past and said no. The Vikings cannot let him go,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what. Because eventually they're going to get their quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>and who's the guy the Vikings need?

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<v Speaker 4>The Chiefs have a quarterback. They don't need Justin Jefferson

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<v Speaker 4>to make a quarterback great.

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<v Speaker 3>The Vikings need that.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, let's get to the NFC. The NFC contender

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<v Speaker 5>that impressed you the most, Pearl, I'll let you go

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<v Speaker 5>first again.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this might be a little against the grain because

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<v Speaker 3>it actually didn't look that great, but the Seattle Seahawks

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<v Speaker 3>really impressed me because they won with Sam Darnold going

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<v Speaker 3>down early over the Patriots. Their defense looked even more

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<v Speaker 3>dominant than last season, and they had some injuries on defense.

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<v Speaker 3>They barely lost anyone. They lost Reek Woolen, but they're

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<v Speaker 3>fine without him. That defense, to me, could be, first

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<v Speaker 3>of all, it's unheralded, but the most impressive unit around

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL overall. They don't need great quarterback play. And

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<v Speaker 3>they have JSN and wide receiver. They don't need Kenneth Walker. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>Ken Walker.

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<v Speaker 4>They have, you know, they have Jadarian Price, and they

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<v Speaker 4>can fill in running backs.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see a major flaw with the Seahawks, even

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<v Speaker 3>if Sam Darnold needs a couple weeks out.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like Sam Darnold can't get credit for anything. He

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<v Speaker 5>wins the Super Bowl, or he was part of the

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<v Speaker 5>Super Bowl winning team. His team outscored their opponents by

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<v Speaker 5>191 points last year. But he's going to miss a

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<v Speaker 5>couple weeks, and it's not even a lead story in sports.

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<v Speaker 5>The defending Super Bowl champs quarterback, is out for a

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<v Speaker 5>few weeks, which we still don't know whether it's his

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<v Speaker 5>hip or his glute. I checked the Seattle Seahawks website.

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<v Speaker 5>They said it is not his hip. He does not

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<v Speaker 5>have a hip joint injury. It is his glute, which

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<v Speaker 5>means your butt.

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<v Speaker 4>That does mean your butt.

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<v Speaker 3>I also saw he could come back week three if

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<v Speaker 3>they really need him to, but I don't think they

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<v Speaker 3>need him to.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a quarterback for the Seahawks, just don't throw interceptions.

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<v Speaker 3>Your defense will win the game.

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<v Speaker 5>You won the Super Bowl last year. My NFC contender

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<v Speaker 5>that impressed the most I would like to say the

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<v Speaker 5>Bears by their offense, but their defense is not good.

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<v Speaker 5>And it wasn't good last year, but it's opportunistic. I

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<v Speaker 5>think their defense is actually worse than last year. And

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<v Speaker 5>they made all those plays on defense. Can't go with

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<v Speaker 5>the Bears. And I would like to go with the

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<v Speaker 5>New York Giants, but I think it was a really

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<v Speaker 5>good first week. It might be a really nice first

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<v Speaker 5>month for the Giants, but I don't look at them

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<v Speaker 5>as contender or even contender-ish. I think they're going to

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<v Speaker 5>have an improved season. And I'm going to go with...

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<v Speaker 5>The 49ers begrudgingly. I like the way the 49ers adjust

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<v Speaker 5>with injuries because they're used to being injured. And that

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<v Speaker 5>game against the Rams, they spanked them. And I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to hear about jet lag and no Aaron Donald.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're the favorite to win the Super Bowl and

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<v Speaker 5>you lay an egg, the other team caused you to

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<v Speaker 5>lay the egg. Boy, that sunshine is gorgeous on those uniforms.

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<v Speaker 5>I know it's all health dependent with Christian McCaffrey, with

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<v Speaker 5>Nick Bosa and all those guys. But right now, the

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<v Speaker 5>49ers are a little dangerous, maybe even a lot dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we forgetting about a massive electrical substation?

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's an overdone joke.

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<v Speaker 5>I am pro substation now. I want my team to

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<v Speaker 5>build a substation and soak in all those good rays

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<v Speaker 5>that are helping the 49ers be good.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, they look great in week one.

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<v Speaker 3>If that team is out there for 18 weeks, 17 weeks, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they're definitely a contender. And I consider them as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But come on, Paul. They're all older. I mean, Trent

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<v Speaker 3>Williams looks like the best tackle. He's almost 40. Kittle

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<v Speaker 3>is 32. Bosa looked great coming off an injury. But

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<v Speaker 3>there's a long season ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with you. But why do we think they're

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<v Speaker 5>always going to be injured? I think we expect them

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<v Speaker 5>to be injured. And what if this is the year?

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<v Speaker 5>And McCaffrey stays healthy and splits carries. We're going to

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<v Speaker 5>talk about that. Bosa stays healthy. Ayuk is off the roster,

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<v Speaker 5>which I think is a great thing. That guy was

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<v Speaker 5>a mess.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally agree.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that the Niners, with the lack of expectations,

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<v Speaker 5>could sneak up some people like they did in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Kyle Shanahan, great coach as well.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, coming up next, we may have a surprise

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<v Speaker 3>number one pick in the NFL draft. Love it. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>explain that next. Not so fast.

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<v Speaker 5>Back on Not So Fast, passing Perloff. Always the midday pick-me-up, Perloff.

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<v Speaker 5>Not just coffee. A little bingo. That is Pete Alonso. Big,

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<v Speaker 5>hulking player going yard against his old team, the Mets.

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<v Speaker 3>That has got to feel great.

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<v Speaker 2>300.

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<v Speaker 4>Do it against the Mets. Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they let you go. They didn't give you the

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<v Speaker 5>big contract. That wasn't a bad flip. That was a

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<v Speaker 5>bad spike.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would not want to be in the way

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<v Speaker 3>of a bad flip from that dude at all.

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<v Speaker 5>That was a fun night last night. More for Pete

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<v Speaker 5>Alonzo than for Mets fans, but they seemed to enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to talk more about that in a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit because DP, earlier on the Dan Patrick Show, was

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<v Speaker 5>pretty hot on the topic. More of the fan reaction

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<v Speaker 5>than Pete Alonzo's hit. It's time for warm takes here

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<v Speaker 5>on Not So Fast with Paxton Perloff. We hit the warm-ups,

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<v Speaker 5>you soak them in like hot butter, baby. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to go first. Interesting week for Arch Manning

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<v Speaker 5>down at Texas. Saturday was fantastic. His signature game of

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<v Speaker 5>his career. And then for some reason, he lost the

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<v Speaker 5>press conference at home two days later. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>going to give him too much of a hall pass.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think you should because he is a Manning.

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<v Speaker 5>He is not a college kid who's new to the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 5>He is the most prepared college kid of all time

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<v Speaker 5>for the spotlight. His uncles are media giants. They were

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<v Speaker 5>in the pros for years, for decades. And Arch Manning

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<v Speaker 5>had a big whiff at the press conference. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>you know the details. We don't have to go through them,

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<v Speaker 5>but you know if you have a phone and saw

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<v Speaker 5>social media. He had to issue an apology yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 5>it was warranted. And I'm going to give him a

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<v Speaker 5>borderline hall pass from the standpoint of, you know, you

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<v Speaker 5>look at his statement. My press conference yesterday, I made

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<v Speaker 5>an insensitive comment. He's talking about Holly Rowe and the

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<v Speaker 5>video with Sark. You guys know what happened. But this

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<v Speaker 5>guy's got to have more awareness there in the moment.

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<v Speaker 5>And his Madden awareness rating was really low on this one.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's like, you're Arch Manning, and you should know this.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think he does. It's like being a Kennedy

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<v Speaker 5>in politics, being a Manning in football. You go in famous,

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<v Speaker 5>you go in picked apart, and you go in as

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<v Speaker 5>people are going to talk about you, good, bad, or ugly.

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<v Speaker 5>You had the best football weekend of your career, and

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<v Speaker 5>you got really, really loose in the press conference. So

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<v Speaker 5>did the media there. But that's one where He better

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<v Speaker 5>learn that lesson because the second one won't get the

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<v Speaker 5>hall pass.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what my reaction was? I immediately thought, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>why is everyone on social media jumping over a 22-year-old

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<v Speaker 3>kid over this?

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a social media clip. Then I saw the clip.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I had not seen it and it was really inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's no excuse.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, Art should have known on that one.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and the 22-year-old kid thing, I think that works

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<v Speaker 5>a generation ago for the, not the NIL athletes. These

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<v Speaker 5>are professional athletes who happen to be in college. Some

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<v Speaker 5>aren't even going to college, so they should know every

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<v Speaker 5>bit of it and the If you look at when

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<v Speaker 5>he looked over to the Texas SID and did this one,

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<v Speaker 5>you knew it was a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. I am actually going to stay in a

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<v Speaker 3>similar field, college football. Arch Manning might be the number

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<v Speaker 3>one overall pick still. Played well in the second half.

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<v Speaker 3>You got other quarterbacks who are playing well. Todd McShay

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<v Speaker 3>said this could be the greatest quarterback draft class of

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<v Speaker 3>all time. But it's falling apart a little bit. Dante

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<v Speaker 3>Moore does not look great for Oregon. Drew Messamaker looks awesome,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's throwing a lot of interceptions. Lenore Sellers has struggled.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of guys have had either a slow start

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<v Speaker 3>or haven't played anyone yet. So we don't know. But

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<v Speaker 3>one guy that we know is a sure thing is

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio State wide receiver Jeremiah Smith. He is so obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>to me, the best NFL prospect in college football.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not even close.

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<v Speaker 3>Quarterbacks might go ahead of him just because of the position.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is a once-in-a-generation wide receiver. Reminds me so

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<v Speaker 3>much of Calvin Johnson, maybe Julio Jones, maybe a little

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<v Speaker 3>Terrell Owens.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Paul, I have a question off this.

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<v Speaker 3>If you are the number one team in the draft

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<v Speaker 3>and you know you have a Hall of Fame wide

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<v Speaker 3>receiver sitting there, you know Calvin Johnson sitting there, do

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<v Speaker 3>you still take the quarterback anyway or do you go

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<v Speaker 3>with the sure thing wide receiver?

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<v Speaker 5>I think this is really interesting because it does feel

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<v Speaker 5>like there's very few questions about this guy, Jeremiah Smith.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's say you're the Tennessee Titans. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 5>go and get another quarterback again and start this process again?

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<v Speaker 5>What if you went with Jeremiah Smith, give him one

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<v Speaker 5>year under his belt on a rookie contract? You're probably

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<v Speaker 5>not going to be that good and you're in the

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<v Speaker 5>next draft. And that quarterback you bring in has Jeremiah

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<v Speaker 5>Smith to play with. And now you're putting together a

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<v Speaker 5>dream team as opposed to doing it the opposite direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. I think this is something Dan says. You want

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that your team is ready for the

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<v Speaker 3>rookie quarterback. So you have talent around him. You have

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<v Speaker 3>an O-line. You have receivers. Otherwise, you're basically Cam Ward

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<v Speaker 3>in Tennessee two years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>You know the team I like? The Miami Dolphins. Somehow

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<v Speaker 5>the Dolphins have the number one pick. And you want

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<v Speaker 5>to really stick with Malik Willis and give him a

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<v Speaker 5>chance to expand and grow. And not making that much money,

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<v Speaker 5>Malik Willis, you give him Jeremiah Smith and build the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of your roster. That could be saucy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, after week one, I think there are three teams

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<v Speaker 3>in the mix for number one. Tennessee might go Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>Miami might go Smith. But Cleveland has to go quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>So I still think there's a chance. Jeremiah Smith is

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<v Speaker 3>so transcendent wide receiver that he bucks a trend, and

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<v Speaker 3>he passes all those other guys. And Arch, as you

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<v Speaker 3>point out, is he even ready to go pro? He

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<v Speaker 3>might even go back to Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be something. If they don't win the title

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<v Speaker 5>or somehow miss the playoffs this year, I could see

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<v Speaker 5>another Arch season. I don't think he wants to start

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<v Speaker 5>one year.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it would be his second year, but Mannings usually stays.

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<v Speaker 3>C.J. Carr is another guy at Notre Dame. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sure he doesn't go back as well. Could clear a

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<v Speaker 3>path for Jeremiah Smith.

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<v Speaker 5>He just blew up the draft. All right, here's my

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<v Speaker 5>next warm take, and this is going back to the Brewers.

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<v Speaker 5>The Brewers have the pitcher Jake Mizorowski, the Miz as

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<v Speaker 5>they call him. He's about 6'7, about 210 pounds, and

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<v Speaker 5>he's thrown a pitch 105.5 miles per hour in his career.

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<v Speaker 5>If you watch his games, he hits 100 most of

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<v Speaker 5>the time. It's not even a big deal. I saw

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of 103s in the same at-bat yesterday. It's

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<v Speaker 5>really fascinating. It's a little bit like Randy Johnson because

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<v Speaker 5>he's got the presence, the big hands, and he's appointment programming.

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<v Speaker 5>But these days in baseball, there aren't that many appointment

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<v Speaker 5>programming pitchers because they don't get to go to innings 7, 8,

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<v Speaker 5>and 9. And I don't want to go back to

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<v Speaker 5>get off my lawn back in my day. Yamamoto for

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<v Speaker 5>the Dodgers is really interesting, and there's a few other pitchers.

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<v Speaker 5>Paul Skeens is appointment programming. and you've got to tune

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<v Speaker 5>into them. But I'm really curious about the future of

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<v Speaker 5>the pitching position. We're at 105 miles per hour. Mason

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<v Speaker 5>Miller of the Padres, he throws 105. It's not that

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<v Speaker 5>big of a deal to go over 102 anymore. And

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<v Speaker 5>how far can we go with this, the Miz? Can

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<v Speaker 5>the Miz throw 107 in two years? In 20 years,

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<v Speaker 5>are we talking about 110 miles an hour? Can this

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<v Speaker 5>go this far, or is there a cap on this,

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<v Speaker 5>and can hitters ever catch up? Bonus coverage, having two

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<v Speaker 5>sports people both named the Miz, the wrestler... And the pitcher,

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<v Speaker 5>does there have to be one Miz, Perloff, or can

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<v Speaker 5>we go with two Miz's or Miz-I?

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<v Speaker 3>I think pro wrestling is in a different category, so

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<v Speaker 3>you're fine with two Miz's. Can I throw a curveball

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<v Speaker 3>at you?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't totally believe these numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they've changed the way that they measure speed

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<v Speaker 3>because I've never seen anyone throw harder than Nolan Ryan. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And all these guys are five to ten miles faster

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<v Speaker 3>than Nolan Ryan. Are you calling out the radar gun?

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<v Speaker 3>I've called it out many times before. It's not just

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<v Speaker 3>where they're measuring the ball. I mean, listen, it's fire,

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<v Speaker 3>and they all throw it like this. But I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>Nolan Ryan guy. Paul, I just can't accept that the

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<v Speaker 3>Miz throws it that much harder than my guy.

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<v Speaker 5>And Nolan Ryan could probably throw 85 today.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'll go back to the NFL for my next

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<v Speaker 3>warm take. The NFC South started out 0-4. Not only that,

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<v Speaker 3>they let up over 35 points a game. All four franchises,

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<v Speaker 3>in my opinion, do not have a bright future. Out

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<v Speaker 3>of the last four years, twice the winner of the

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<v Speaker 3>division has had a losing record.

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<v Speaker 4>So can this go on for eternity? Or does the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL ever step in and say, you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we should realign. And that sounds crazy because we've

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<v Speaker 3>had these same divisions for a long time now. What

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<v Speaker 3>if they expand overseas, Paul? Then they have to realign

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<v Speaker 3>at some point. They might go from 32 to 36,

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<v Speaker 3>have an all-overseas division, or they say, you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's add in London in the NFC East. Then they

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<v Speaker 3>mix it up.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be honest. I look at the ownership groups of

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<v Speaker 4>all four teams. I'm looking at the quarterback situation.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're saying this is a bigger trend?

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<v Speaker 3>I think the NFC South is sunk because the Bucs

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<v Speaker 3>just re-signed Baker Mayfield. He's not getting into the Super Bowl.

0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.679
<v Speaker 3>The Panthers are going nowhere with Bryce Young. They just

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<v Speaker 3>let up 59 points. Atlanta is one of the biggest

0:18:04.540 --> 0:18:07.119
<v Speaker 3>messes in the entire NFL. The one quarterback who I'm

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<v Speaker 3>excited about is Tyler Shuck.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's barely excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Barely excited.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's not that young.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he's in his second year, but he's an

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<v Speaker 3>older guy as well. I just don't see where the

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<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl team is here. What are we doing in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFC South? Are you going to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>win it at 9-8, 8-9 for the next 10 years?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I like what you're saying here. How about this

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<v Speaker 5>as a solution? If you don't have a winning record,

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<v Speaker 5>you cannot make the playoffs. Does that fix the problem? Now,

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<v Speaker 5>they're all 0-1 right now. All the teams in the

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<v Speaker 5>division are 0-1 right now. It wouldn't be a surprise

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<v Speaker 5>if one of them finishes below. 500 and makes the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 5>It's happened before. An easy rule, and I think football

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<v Speaker 5>fans would get behind this. If you're under. 500 or

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<v Speaker 5>you're one game under. 500, you can't make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the next team in another division gets that spot.

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<v Speaker 3>A new wild card spins. I like it.

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<v Speaker 4>And, you know, the NFL loves to change their rules.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not? Let's go.

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<v Speaker 5>Roger Goodell is watching. I'm sure he loves it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Roger.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, let's play a little game here. This is

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<v Speaker 5>a fun one I like to call blip or trend.

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<v Speaker 5>Is this something that's just happening for a couple days,

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<v Speaker 5>or is it more of a trend? Perloff, you don't

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<v Speaker 5>know what's coming.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Here we go. Christian McCaffrey splitting touches with rookie Kalen Black,

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<v Speaker 5>the rookie out of Indiana that I like a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Blip or trend for your 49ers?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, if the Niners are smart, this is a definite trend.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it is a trend because they know

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<v Speaker 3>Christian McCaffrey gets too many touches, he wears out. Black

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<v Speaker 3>looked awesome. Now, here's what I'm worried about. Is it

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a close game? They were up on

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<v Speaker 3>the ramps. close divisional game. Are they just going to

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<v Speaker 3>keep on riding McCaffrey and forget about Black?

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<v Speaker 4>I hope not.

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<v Speaker 3>I say Trent.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think this sets it up. And we talked

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<v Speaker 5>about this in week one. We went back to the draft.

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<v Speaker 5>You and I talked about how much we liked Kalen Black.

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<v Speaker 5>And we said, this is perfect. Christian McCaffrey's got a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of mileage going back to college. A ton of mileage.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you can put him in position to be

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<v Speaker 5>ready for December, January, February, it's a great strategy.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Bengals becoming a Turner machine on defense. Blip or trend?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, that's a blip.

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<v Speaker 3>If you watch some of the turnovers, it's because Baker

0:19:56.930 --> 0:19:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Mayfield was running wild and forgot to hold on to

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<v Speaker 3>the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't face him every week.

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<v Speaker 3>That was completely about Baker Mayfield got behind to Joe

0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.419
<v Speaker 3>Burrow and just like, I've got to make every play possible.

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<v Speaker 3>I am still a little worried about the Bengals' defense.

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<v Speaker 3>I know Dexter Lawrence is awesome. but the Bucs in

0:20:13.470 --> 0:20:15.969
<v Speaker 3>the second half of that game looked like the better team, actually.

0:20:16.250 --> 0:20:18.430
<v Speaker 3>So Cincinnati, I don't think they're that different. I know

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<v Speaker 3>that they had a convincing week one win, which they

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<v Speaker 3>never do, but I still worry about the defense.

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Burrow is so bummed that you didn't say this

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<v Speaker 5>is a trend, because Joe Burrow just needs a little defense,

0:20:26.220 --> 0:20:27.100
<v Speaker 5>not even a lot of defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did you see when the game got close at

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<v Speaker 3>the end, all of a sudden the Bucs started moving

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<v Speaker 3>the ball?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's way too early to say since he

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<v Speaker 4>fixed his defense.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, next up for blip or trend, Drake May,

0:20:36.550 --> 0:20:39.890
<v Speaker 5>the quarterback of the Patriots, becoming a turnover-happy machine. Wow,

0:20:39.910 --> 0:20:40.830
<v Speaker 5>this is a pejorative.

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<v Speaker 4>Turnover-happy?

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<v Speaker 3>Machine, after one week against the Seahawks, the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 3>winning defense.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why it's flipper trend, Perloff.

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<v Speaker 3>Drake May was pressing, obviously, in the fourth quarter against Seattle.

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<v Speaker 3>Three turnovers, they're all late. Drake May does have this

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<v Speaker 3>thing where he thinks he can make any play. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he did read some headlines.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a loaf of bread guy. He likes to hold

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<v Speaker 5>the ball a little loose in the pocket whilst running.

0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.109
<v Speaker 5>He had a bunch of fumbles last year. that his

0:21:03.190 --> 0:21:05.470
<v Speaker 5>own team recovered, I looked this up, so he doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>get the ding for fumbling.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would say blip, though, because I think he

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<v Speaker 4>has a good coaching staff.

0:21:09.530 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Mike Frabel, Josh McDaniels are going to say, listen, Drake,

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<v Speaker 3>you're awesome, but don't think you're Patrick Mahomes, because you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got to contain himself, play more disciplined, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>not playing Seattle every week.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, last one for the popular game, blip or trend.

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<v Speaker 5>You can play at home. Packers unable to close out games,

0:21:24.619 --> 0:21:26.459
<v Speaker 5>blip or trend. I'd like to go first on this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Please.

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<v Speaker 5>This has become a trend, and Packers fans are not happy.

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<v Speaker 5>It goes back to the last two months of last season.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>The Packers limped to the finish in games they could

0:21:33.890 --> 0:21:36.210
<v Speaker 5>have won. A couple against the Bears, they could have won.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the playoff game against the Bears.

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<v Speaker 5>And the start of this season, for Carson Wentz to

0:21:40.109 --> 0:21:42.669
<v Speaker 5>do it against you, it's getting really hot up in

0:21:42.690 --> 0:21:44.510
<v Speaker 5>Green Bay, and it doesn't usually get hot in Green Bay.

0:21:45.190 --> 0:21:46.090
<v Speaker 5>The fans are really upset.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it seems like a bigger problem to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Their offensive line was not great on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 5>Jordan Love did his job.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then he started getting hit.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the Packers are too much of a,

0:21:56.740 --> 0:21:59.220
<v Speaker 3>we're going to have great plays called in the first half.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not tough enough, Paul. I don't want to call

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<v Speaker 3>out anyone's toughness. They're just not physical enough to sustain

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<v Speaker 3>it for four quarters. I think Matt LaFleur is a

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<v Speaker 3>really good offensive coach, and that works awesome in the

0:22:08.609 --> 0:22:11.490
<v Speaker 3>first half. It does not get the win. I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>If he doesn't make the playoffs this year, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it might even be over, which is funny because he's

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<v Speaker 3>been great.

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<v Speaker 4>He has a high winning percentage every year, but that

0:22:19.340 --> 0:22:20.060
<v Speaker 4>seat is very hot.

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<v Speaker 5>Very, very hot. All right, coming up next, that was

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<v Speaker 5>Blipper Trend. You guys can play at home. Coming up next,

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<v Speaker 5>more on NFC North and the Bears. Kevin Fishbane, our

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<v Speaker 5>buddy from The Athletic, he covers it all. Stick around.

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<v Speaker 5>Not so fast.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Not so fast. Perloff and Papps, NBC Sports Now, Peacock. Paul,

0:22:37.980 --> 0:22:40.920
<v Speaker 3>we've had a few days since the week one games happened.

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<v Speaker 4>So you think people cool off?

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<v Speaker 3>I got to tell you, people are not cooling off.

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<v Speaker 4>Not on your Chicago Bears.

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<v Speaker 5>And not with the Green Bay Packers on the other

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<v Speaker 5>side of that. A lot to chop up there.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. We're going to bring in athletic senior writer

0:22:51.770 --> 0:22:56.129
<v Speaker 3>Kevin Fishbane, who covers the Bears, the entire NFC North. Kevin,

0:22:56.530 --> 0:22:58.190
<v Speaker 3>we're old enough to remember when the Bears used to

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<v Speaker 3>be good at defense and not great on offense.

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<v Speaker 4>Are we ready for the new look Bears?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I was wondering if Paul remembered the 1980 Bears,

0:23:08.380 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 7>Vince Evans going off for 61 points the last time

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:13.980
<v Speaker 7>the Bears scored this many points.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, this is a.

0:23:15.300 --> 0:23:18.859
<v Speaker 7>a franchise founded on defense and running the football. And

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 7>one thing that Ben Johnson has carried over, they're really

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.100
<v Speaker 7>good at running the football, but in today's NFL, he

0:23:24.340 --> 0:23:26.810
<v Speaker 7>finds a way for them to be an explosive offense

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:28.880
<v Speaker 7>with the way that they run the football. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>this city is still buzzing over their 59 points in

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<v Speaker 7>Week 1.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Fishbane, you're a responsible journalist. You're a measured guy.

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<v Speaker 5>You're in Chicago. Can you calm things down there, or

0:23:39.790 --> 0:23:43.230
<v Speaker 5>should it be the opposite? Should you expect similar, not 59,

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<v Speaker 5>but similar going forward for the Bears?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, Pauly, they scored 59 without Colson Loveland touching the football. So,

0:23:49.490 --> 0:23:51.959
<v Speaker 7>you know, there are fans that are letting their imaginations

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.939
<v Speaker 7>run wild about what this could be. I think everyone

0:23:54.980 --> 0:23:58.500
<v Speaker 7>knows the Brian Flores defense on deck here with Minnesota

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.010
<v Speaker 7>and then Vic Fangio's Eagles defense the next week. Good

0:24:02.050 --> 0:24:04.210
<v Speaker 7>wake-up calls to see like, hey, it might not be

0:24:04.270 --> 0:24:07.340
<v Speaker 7>that easy. Also, the defense certainly has... a ton of

0:24:07.380 --> 0:24:10.199
<v Speaker 7>work to do after giving up 37 to Carolina. But

0:24:10.220 --> 0:24:13.930
<v Speaker 7>I think what we saw is this offense has crazy potential,

0:24:13.990 --> 0:24:15.690
<v Speaker 7>and they can find lots of different ways to.

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<v Speaker 3>Score on you. Kevin, what's different about Caleb Williams this

0:24:18.770 --> 0:24:20.050
<v Speaker 3>year than the last two years?

0:24:21.250 --> 0:24:22.230
<v Speaker 5>Boy, is he locked in.

0:24:22.250 --> 0:24:25.990
<v Speaker 7>I mean, he really, not that anybody doubted it, but

0:24:26.190 --> 0:24:29.780
<v Speaker 7>this offseason, the work that he put in on accuracy,

0:24:30.380 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 7>on just becoming a master of this system that Ben

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:36.369
<v Speaker 7>Johnson's put in for him, We've seen just an incredibly

0:24:36.430 --> 0:24:39.100
<v Speaker 7>focused Caleb William Stroud camp. And then a couple of

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:41.580
<v Speaker 7>things like taking the checkdowns, right? He had a bunch

0:24:41.619 --> 0:24:45.340
<v Speaker 7>of them against Carolina. Making sure that when he scrambles,

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:48.100
<v Speaker 7>he's still accurate. You saw a couple big plays when

0:24:48.140 --> 0:24:51.400
<v Speaker 7>he moved outside the pocket. So already week one, you're

0:24:51.470 --> 0:24:55.869
<v Speaker 7>seeing those incremental improvements from a guy who's armed talent-wise

0:24:55.910 --> 0:24:58.629
<v Speaker 7>and the way he runs, he can do anything he wants.

0:24:58.710 --> 0:25:01.290
<v Speaker 7>It's just kind of continuing to refine it. So yeah,

0:25:01.330 --> 0:25:03.070
<v Speaker 7>the Bears have to be pretty pleased with what he

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<v Speaker 7>did in the opener.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I hate to be the reality check guy,

0:25:05.470 --> 0:25:06.650
<v Speaker 5>but the defense gave up 37 points.

0:25:06.670 --> 0:25:06.740
<v Speaker 3>And.

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.439
<v Speaker 5>not against the best offense of all time. Last year,

0:25:10.460 --> 0:25:13.780
<v Speaker 5>the Bears' defense survived or thrived by taking away the football,

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:15.760
<v Speaker 5>but some of those guys are gone. Kevin Byard's gone.

0:25:15.780 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 5>Deshaun Wright is gone. And they didn't add a lot

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.570
<v Speaker 5>of impact guys. Thielman, the safety, is very interesting. But

0:25:21.609 --> 0:25:23.470
<v Speaker 5>can this team, I know they could do damage in

0:25:23.510 --> 0:25:25.910
<v Speaker 5>the NFC North, no problem there, but can you compete

0:25:26.109 --> 0:25:28.429
<v Speaker 5>in December, January, February with the Rams and the Seahawks

0:25:28.470 --> 0:25:29.090
<v Speaker 5>with this defense?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, they need these guys to step up, right? They

0:25:33.010 --> 0:25:34.969
<v Speaker 7>need Montez Sweat to play like a pro bowler. They

0:25:34.990 --> 0:25:37.690
<v Speaker 7>need Austin Booker, the other defensive end, to take a

0:25:37.730 --> 0:25:40.879
<v Speaker 7>big jump in his career. They need Dylan Thienemann, the

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 7>first-round pick, to play like a top pick already as

0:25:44.380 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 7>a rookie. Missing Kobe Bryant, that was a huge blow

0:25:46.980 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 7>to the defense. So Devin Bush, who came over in

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.980
<v Speaker 7>free agency, they need him. to play at a high level.

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 7>I mean, you really, you look at the collection of players,

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.609
<v Speaker 7>you're asking all of these guys to essentially play above

0:25:58.660 --> 0:26:00.510
<v Speaker 7>what they have been in their career. Or maybe a

0:26:00.550 --> 0:26:03.590
<v Speaker 7>guy like Grady Jarrett, find what he had earlier in

0:26:03.630 --> 0:26:06.129
<v Speaker 7>his career. So they're kind of asking for that, but

0:26:06.170 --> 0:26:09.550
<v Speaker 7>they're also hoping that more comfort in Dennis Allen's scheme

0:26:09.570 --> 0:26:12.650
<v Speaker 7>will allow Dennis Allen to, you know, throw some things

0:26:12.710 --> 0:26:15.660
<v Speaker 7>at offenses that can help them out. But the positive

0:26:15.700 --> 0:26:18.200
<v Speaker 7>thing from week one, you mentioned Theanaman, he had a

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:22.210
<v Speaker 7>pretty good performance. Malik Mohamed, The fourth-round rookie, nickel-corner Ben Johnson,

0:26:22.260 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 7>is very pleased with what he did in week one. So, look,

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<v Speaker 7>if those guys can stand out, this group can improve.

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 7>But they really need players to have these breakout seasons. Otherwise,

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.970
<v Speaker 7>they're going to need to score five, six touchdowns a week.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. I think Paul sort of jumped over the

0:26:36.750 --> 0:26:39.750
<v Speaker 3>NFC North a little bit. Who is the Bears' biggest

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<v Speaker 3>competition in the division?

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<v Speaker 7>Shoot, I would probably say Detroit. I know that they

0:26:47.660 --> 0:26:49.949
<v Speaker 7>had a brutal second half and letting the Saints kind

0:26:49.970 --> 0:26:52.190
<v Speaker 7>of climb back into that game, but you think about

0:26:52.230 --> 0:26:55.090
<v Speaker 7>how hungry that group is after what happened last year.

0:26:55.490 --> 0:26:57.590
<v Speaker 7>You look at Goff and Gibbs and Campbell and that

0:26:57.650 --> 0:27:00.190
<v Speaker 7>offensive line. I think that is still a team. Look,

0:27:00.630 --> 0:27:03.420
<v Speaker 7>they still swept the Bears last year, including the game

0:27:03.460 --> 0:27:05.660
<v Speaker 7>late in the season that didn't mean anything to Detroit.

0:27:05.700 --> 0:27:09.060
<v Speaker 7>I think that still is probably frustrating for the Bears

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.300
<v Speaker 7>that they didn't get that, but I mean, all these teams,

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 7>you look at what the Vikings were able to do

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 7>without Kyler Murray. I know the Packers' fourth quarter thing

0:27:15.660 --> 0:27:18.880
<v Speaker 7>is a problem, but Jordan Love, Christian Watson, those guys

0:27:18.900 --> 0:27:21.060
<v Speaker 7>could still put up big plays. I'm expecting it to

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.550
<v Speaker 7>be a really competitive division, but right now I think

0:27:23.570 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 7>Detroit is probably still going to be maybe the team

0:27:26.010 --> 0:27:28.449
<v Speaker 7>to beat. I know they were the odds-on favorite, but

0:27:28.470 --> 0:27:30.330
<v Speaker 7>you can make an argument for any of those four

0:27:30.910 --> 0:27:32.690
<v Speaker 7>to be the ones on top come January.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Kevin, you covered the entire NFC North. They're

0:27:35.010 --> 0:27:37.780
<v Speaker 5>all cyclical. All those teams are bound together. I want

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 5>to talk about the Packers because the Bears fans, the

0:27:39.820 --> 0:27:41.740
<v Speaker 5>only thing they like more than watching the Bears win,

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.250
<v Speaker 5>I really do believe, is watching the Packers lose in

0:27:44.290 --> 0:27:47.390
<v Speaker 5>painful fashion like they did on Sunday. Now, I don't

0:27:47.550 --> 0:27:50.230
<v Speaker 5>overreact on Week 1, but this seems like a hangover

0:27:50.270 --> 0:27:52.669
<v Speaker 5>from last year. Matt LaFleur caught a lot of flack

0:27:53.090 --> 0:27:55.290
<v Speaker 5>last year, the Packers head coach, about not closing games.

0:27:55.670 --> 0:27:57.980
<v Speaker 5>And he did it again Week 1 against technically a

0:27:58.020 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 5>third-string quarterback in Carson Wentz. If this were a situation,

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 5>what level of situation is it in Green Bay?

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:09.410
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, again, you have a Pretty darn good quarterback. You

0:28:09.450 --> 0:28:12.310
<v Speaker 7>have the weapons there. There's a lot of talent. And

0:28:12.369 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 7>for them to have blown this fourth quarter lead, the

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 7>second in a row, if you count last year's playoff

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:20.139
<v Speaker 7>loss in Chicago, there's a lot to think about with

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 7>the coaching decisions. And there's a lot to think about

0:28:22.260 --> 0:28:26.909
<v Speaker 7>of why is this team not showing that ability, that moxie,

0:28:27.210 --> 0:28:31.030
<v Speaker 7>to finish off opponents. That's what separates the great teams from...

0:28:31.030 --> 0:28:33.230
<v Speaker 7>in this league. So as much as you want to

0:28:33.270 --> 0:28:35.190
<v Speaker 7>write it off and say, well, it's just week one,

0:28:35.530 --> 0:28:37.620
<v Speaker 7>as you said, Paul, you have the evidence from last

0:28:37.650 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 7>year and LeFleur was under tons of heat at the

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.380
<v Speaker 7>end of last season. I mean, to lose that way

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 7>in Chicago to your rival to end the season, boy,

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.220
<v Speaker 7>oh boy. I mean, he's a great play caller, obviously,

0:28:48.260 --> 0:28:51.420
<v Speaker 7>and they've had a ton of success, but that's something

0:28:51.460 --> 0:28:55.020
<v Speaker 7>to continue monitoring this season because there's too much talent

0:28:55.060 --> 0:28:57.050
<v Speaker 7>there for them to not be able to close out

0:28:57.070 --> 0:28:57.660
<v Speaker 7>games like that.

0:28:58.080 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 3>All right, Kevin, if you're the Bears, who do you

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:03.260
<v Speaker 3>want to see in Minnesota? Carson Wentz or Kyler Murray?

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:09.370
<v Speaker 7>Oh, man, that's a great question. Well, I think you

0:29:09.490 --> 0:29:11.850
<v Speaker 7>probably would, I guess maybe Carson Wentz because you don't

0:29:11.890 --> 0:29:13.770
<v Speaker 7>have as much of the running that you have to

0:29:13.810 --> 0:29:15.730
<v Speaker 7>contend with. Like Kyler Murray, there's still a little bit

0:29:15.750 --> 0:29:18.550
<v Speaker 7>of unknown of that ability for him. to wiggle and

0:29:18.590 --> 0:29:20.630
<v Speaker 7>make some plays on the run, so maybe Wentz is

0:29:20.650 --> 0:29:24.350
<v Speaker 7>a somewhat easier scouting situation, but in the end, you're

0:29:24.370 --> 0:29:26.150
<v Speaker 7>still trying to stop the run, you're still trying to

0:29:26.170 --> 0:29:28.970
<v Speaker 7>stop Justin Jefferson, you're still finding a way to attack

0:29:29.010 --> 0:29:32.730
<v Speaker 7>that Brian Flores defense, but yeah, I guess maybe Carson Wentz,

0:29:32.770 --> 0:29:36.170
<v Speaker 7>but that guy's a veteran, and that guy, it was

0:29:36.190 --> 0:29:38.370
<v Speaker 7>a long time ago, he's come into Soldier Field and

0:29:38.390 --> 0:29:41.420
<v Speaker 7>played really well before, way earlier in his career. So

0:29:42.660 --> 0:29:44.150
<v Speaker 7>keep that in mind. This guy has got a lot

0:29:44.170 --> 0:29:46.850
<v Speaker 7>of confidence for everything that he's gone through in his career.

0:29:46.890 --> 0:29:48.850
<v Speaker 7>He's got a lot of experience and he's not afraid

0:29:48.870 --> 0:29:51.930
<v Speaker 7>to let it rip. So Those are two solid quarterbacks.

0:29:52.190 --> 0:29:54.230
<v Speaker 7>And they're probably looking at the Bears' defense. They're watching

0:29:54.250 --> 0:29:57.209
<v Speaker 7>that Carolina tape being like, we don't care who's a quarterback.

0:29:57.230 --> 0:29:59.370
<v Speaker 7>We're going to find ways to score points. So I

0:29:59.410 --> 0:30:01.950
<v Speaker 7>understand if Kevin O'Connell is going to enter Sunday with

0:30:01.970 --> 0:30:04.270
<v Speaker 7>a lot of confidence after seeing what the Bears' defense did.

0:30:04.300 --> 0:30:05.780
<v Speaker 5>All right, before we let you out of here, Kevin

0:30:05.820 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 5>Fishbane of The Athletic, big fan of Not So Fast.

0:30:08.020 --> 0:30:09.980
<v Speaker 5>For months he's been a fan of Not So Fast.

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 5>I want to give you credit for using the word

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 5>moxie on the show. First one, I'm checking my notes yet,

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 5>first time. Okay, last thing. We do a thing called

0:30:16.810 --> 0:30:19.770
<v Speaker 5>Such Thing as a Bad Question. You're a decorated sports writer.

0:30:19.790 --> 0:30:22.090
<v Speaker 5>You don't do this. We do this. Have you ever

0:30:22.110 --> 0:30:25.150
<v Speaker 5>been at a press conference, Ben Johnson or other, where

0:30:25.190 --> 0:30:27.250
<v Speaker 5>you got chewed out or close to chewed out?

0:30:28.450 --> 0:30:31.810
<v Speaker 7>Fortunately, I've never been chewed out, Paul. But this was

0:30:31.830 --> 0:30:34.710
<v Speaker 7>aired live, so I don't mind bringing it up. 49ers-Bears

0:30:34.770 --> 0:30:38.010
<v Speaker 7>last year. That was a crazy game, a wild finish.

0:30:38.580 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 7>Bears attempted a little hook and ladder there at the end.

0:30:40.700 --> 0:30:42.310
<v Speaker 7>I loved the call in the moment. I thought it

0:30:42.330 --> 0:30:45.590
<v Speaker 7>was awesome. DeAndre Schiff gets tackled and bounds, though, and

0:30:45.650 --> 0:30:48.670
<v Speaker 7>time comes off. Frenetic ending. They lose the game. And,

0:30:48.910 --> 0:30:50.930
<v Speaker 7>you know, Ben Johnson was pretty short with us afterwards,

0:30:51.070 --> 0:30:53.790
<v Speaker 7>understandably so. So you're kind of scrambling in your brain

0:30:53.810 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 7>to think of a way to ask the question. I

0:30:55.390 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 7>kind of just spit out something along the lines of,

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:00.380
<v Speaker 7>were you okay with calling that play in that situation?

0:31:00.900 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 7>And he kind of looked right back at me and goes,

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 7>were you not? And then, you know, just that hush.

0:31:06.060 --> 0:31:09.780
<v Speaker 7>over the room because, of course, he was okay calling

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.940
<v Speaker 7>that play a situation because he did call that play

0:31:13.020 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 7>a situation. So, you know, it was, again, he was

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:18.620
<v Speaker 7>not upset with me at all. I was not upset

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:21.690
<v Speaker 7>with his response. But, you know, listen, we all talk

0:31:21.730 --> 0:31:25.110
<v Speaker 7>about pressure-packed coaches. How about the pressure-packed media members to

0:31:25.150 --> 0:31:27.750
<v Speaker 7>kind of come up with on the fly those questions

0:31:27.770 --> 0:31:29.570
<v Speaker 7>that we've got to ask in those situations?

0:31:29.630 --> 0:31:31.090
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you don't get to take your shirt off

0:31:31.130 --> 0:31:31.990
<v Speaker 5>if you have a great question.

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:37.310
<v Speaker 7>Well, they do frown upon that. There's no rule against it,

0:31:37.350 --> 0:31:39.370
<v Speaker 7>but we tend to avoid it.

0:31:40.270 --> 0:31:43.010
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, Kevin, listen, it's a change of pace in Chicago.

0:31:43.050 --> 0:31:45.170
<v Speaker 3>Maybe things are changing. They're going to score 50 points

0:31:45.210 --> 0:31:48.450
<v Speaker 3>a game. Should we expect that all year long? Maybe

0:31:48.470 --> 0:31:51.350
<v Speaker 3>you'll take your shirt off then. If they average over

0:31:51.350 --> 0:31:53.930
<v Speaker 3>40 points a game, I want to see you just

0:31:53.970 --> 0:31:56.310
<v Speaker 3>put it all out there in Week 18.

0:31:56.310 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 7>OK, well, that would make you the only one then

0:31:58.100 --> 0:32:02.300
<v Speaker 7>for all to want that. So but yeah, I think

0:32:02.700 --> 0:32:05.550
<v Speaker 7>Bears fans are really trying to get used to this. Like, oh,

0:32:05.870 --> 0:32:07.850
<v Speaker 7>we might have a quarterback and a head coach that

0:32:07.870 --> 0:32:10.300
<v Speaker 7>we could actually be excited about. for a long time.

0:32:10.540 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 7>This is my 14th year covering this team, guys. I

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:14.300
<v Speaker 7>can't even tell you off the top of my head

0:32:14.340 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 7>how many quarterbacks. I can tell you this is my

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.330
<v Speaker 7>fifth head coach in only 14 years. So this is

0:32:19.550 --> 0:32:22.530
<v Speaker 7>all pretty new to everybody. But these guys are pretty

0:32:22.550 --> 0:32:24.270
<v Speaker 7>darn good, and they showed it in week one. So

0:32:24.630 --> 0:32:26.930
<v Speaker 7>I tell Bears fans, just enjoy it. Enjoy the ride.

0:32:26.970 --> 0:32:29.460
<v Speaker 7>See where it takes you. Let your dream, you know, dream.

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.020
<v Speaker 7>Dream big and see where this thing goes.

0:32:32.420 --> 0:32:34.420
<v Speaker 3>Awesome. Thanks so much, Kevin. Talk to you soon.

0:32:34.500 --> 0:32:34.820
<v Speaker 5>See you, bud.

0:32:35.730 --> 0:32:36.190
<v Speaker 3>Thanks, guys.

0:32:36.670 --> 0:32:36.990
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

0:32:37.150 --> 0:32:40.210
<v Speaker 4>Dream big. I don't know, Paul, have you ever gotten

0:32:40.230 --> 0:32:41.510
<v Speaker 4>yelled at at a press conference, by the way?

0:32:41.570 --> 0:32:44.250
<v Speaker 5>I have not. I once had Lou Holtz ask me twice,

0:32:44.350 --> 0:32:47.230
<v Speaker 5>say that again. And I think I just stopped.

0:32:47.690 --> 0:32:47.930
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:32:48.090 --> 0:32:49.210
<v Speaker 5>I didn't take my shirt off there either.

0:32:49.530 --> 0:32:51.890
<v Speaker 3>No, I once got glared at by Pat Riley.

0:32:52.300 --> 0:32:53.020
<v Speaker 5>Oh, that's big time.

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it was just a normal question. Like, what

0:32:55.100 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 3>did you think of the second half? He just looked

0:32:56.620 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 3>at me like I was a lesser man.

0:32:58.140 --> 0:32:58.660
<v Speaker 4>And I was.

0:32:58.760 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 5>What a great moment.

0:32:59.720 --> 0:32:59.860
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:00.220 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 3>All right. Coming up next, we will go to the

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.860
<v Speaker 3>clip joint. Something on the Dan Patrick show stood out

0:33:04.900 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 3>to me, and Paul will dive right into that. Not

0:33:07.180 --> 0:33:07.660
<v Speaker 3>so fast.

0:33:09.070 --> 0:33:09.930
<v Speaker 5>Wow, Pat Riley.

0:33:10.250 --> 0:33:12.950
<v Speaker 3>That's, I mean, that's... Yeah, I mean, it's tougher than

0:33:12.970 --> 0:33:14.750
<v Speaker 3>Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson looks no nonsense.

0:33:15.110 --> 0:33:17.870
<v Speaker 5>And with his hair, you're intimidated already, Pat Riley.

0:33:23.540 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Give me the thing that you know is true right

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 2>now with the NFL after one week that is going

0:33:28.580 --> 0:33:31.860
<v Speaker 2>to be sustainable the rest of the season. Good or bad?

0:33:32.540 --> 0:33:36.850
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, the Cowboys defense is not fixed. That jumped out

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.850
<v Speaker 8>to me as something that was a huge blinking red light.

0:33:41.030 --> 0:33:44.990
<v Speaker 8>When the story of your previous season is your defense

0:33:45.050 --> 0:33:47.310
<v Speaker 8>is bad, if you could get to mediocre, then you

0:33:47.350 --> 0:33:50.050
<v Speaker 8>might have a contender. And then your entire offseason is,

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:54.060
<v Speaker 8>is spent bringing in players that you think will fix this,

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 8>drafting players, signing players you think will fix it, bringing

0:33:56.900 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 8>in a new defensive coordinator you think will fix it,

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 8>and then game one, primetime, Monday night, you can't get

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.550
<v Speaker 8>a stop in must-stop obvious rundowns.

0:34:06.770 --> 0:34:08.390
<v Speaker 5>That, to me, jumped off the page.

0:34:08.410 --> 0:34:11.210
<v Speaker 8>The coverage breakdowns, they stink, but I feel like you

0:34:11.250 --> 0:34:14.089
<v Speaker 8>can coach around that. You're still getting pushed around after

0:34:14.230 --> 0:34:17.589
<v Speaker 8>all that time, to me, is a big, big red

0:34:17.630 --> 0:34:18.970
<v Speaker 8>flag for the Cowboys going forward.

0:34:19.650 --> 0:34:22.189
<v Speaker 5>Back on Not So Fast, Pabst and Perloff here. Don't forget,

0:34:22.290 --> 0:34:24.890
<v Speaker 5>check out our show on podcast. Wherever your podcasts are found,

0:34:24.950 --> 0:34:27.650
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0:34:27.670 --> 0:34:30.690
<v Speaker 5>listen on your drive. All right, Perloff. That was Dominique Foxworth,

0:34:30.730 --> 0:34:33.230
<v Speaker 5>who is a very measured analyst. I look at him

0:34:33.270 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 5>as a voice of reason, but he said something there

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 5>at the end about the Cowboys. They're still getting pushed around,

0:34:39.140 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 5>and that was supposed to stop.

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.060
<v Speaker 3>I know. They traded Micah Parsons, and they brought in

0:34:43.100 --> 0:34:45.919
<v Speaker 3>Quinton Williams and Kenny Clark. The one thing those guys,

0:34:45.940 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 3>that they're paying a lot of money to, should be

0:34:47.500 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 3>able to do is stop the run, and the Giants

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 3>just Ran all over them and also passed all over them.

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 4>Did anything they wanted.

0:34:53.300 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 5>And what bothered me more is that the offense didn't

0:34:55.260 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 5>keep up. Like, I understand it's going to be a

0:34:57.140 --> 0:34:58.940
<v Speaker 5>track meet in some of those games and the defense

0:34:58.980 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 5>might take a little while to get up to speed.

0:35:01.219 --> 0:35:04.009
<v Speaker 5>Caleb Downs, the safety looked really good. But if the

0:35:04.150 --> 0:35:08.050
<v Speaker 5>offense can't score 25, the defense, it won't even matter.

0:35:08.170 --> 0:35:09.370
<v Speaker 3>How are you supposed to keep up when you only

0:35:09.390 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 3>get the ball twice in the second half? I think

0:35:12.410 --> 0:35:14.390
<v Speaker 3>Dominique kind of nailed it. For me, it's the fact

0:35:14.410 --> 0:35:16.950
<v Speaker 3>that I built them up so much in my mind preseason.

0:35:17.310 --> 0:35:19.489
<v Speaker 3>You know, if they had played this game in New

0:35:19.530 --> 0:35:22.029
<v Speaker 3>York and it was an emotional night, then maybe I

0:35:22.070 --> 0:35:24.430
<v Speaker 3>could forgive them. But I had convinced myself they were

0:35:24.469 --> 0:35:26.330
<v Speaker 3>basically the doomsday D all over again.

0:35:26.350 --> 0:35:28.569
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to not so fast you to not bail

0:35:28.610 --> 0:35:30.509
<v Speaker 5>on the Cowboys. I think that this team has enough

0:35:30.570 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 5>new talent that they're going to pick it up. And

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.750
<v Speaker 5>I don't think the Eagles are unbeatable. The Washington Commanders

0:35:35.790 --> 0:35:39.509
<v Speaker 5>seem iffy. And, you know, the Giants improved, but not

0:35:39.690 --> 0:35:40.190
<v Speaker 5>really threatening.

0:35:40.230 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, actually, I'm not so fast as you. I'm not

0:35:42.940 --> 0:35:45.580
<v Speaker 3>so fast back and forth. I think the Giants might

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 3>be really good. Really good.

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:49.060
<v Speaker 5>Are you falling for your own stuff?

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:52.700
<v Speaker 3>I am. I'm overreacting like crazy. John Harbaugh, obviously, is

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 3>a winning coach. But Jackson Dart, to me, looked elite.

0:35:56.420 --> 0:35:59.620
<v Speaker 3>And if you can't scataboo healthy for at least half

0:35:59.660 --> 0:36:00.890
<v Speaker 3>the season, you're out of the game.

0:36:00.950 --> 0:36:03.410
<v Speaker 5>No more backflips, bro. And I love their defensive line.

0:36:03.450 --> 0:36:06.050
<v Speaker 5>They didn't get a sack, but their defensive line is fantastic.

0:36:06.090 --> 0:36:09.830
<v Speaker 3>Oh, Abdul Carter finally showed up. Former number three overall pick. Obviously,

0:36:09.870 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Brian Burns is elite. Maybe the Cowboys lost to a

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:14.739
<v Speaker 3>really good team and we just didn't realize it.

0:36:14.739 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 5>All right, next up on the clip joint, let's get

0:36:16.700 --> 0:36:18.779
<v Speaker 5>to one that was pretty hot earlier today. We talked

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:22.089
<v Speaker 5>a little baseball earlier. We know about Pete Alonzo, former Met.

0:36:22.390 --> 0:36:24.969
<v Speaker 5>Now he's an Oriole. Goes back to play against the Mets.

0:36:25.010 --> 0:36:26.509
<v Speaker 5>The Mets are out of it. The Orioles are out

0:36:26.530 --> 0:36:28.850
<v Speaker 5>of it. He hits home run number 300. The fans

0:36:29.270 --> 0:36:32.070
<v Speaker 5>gave him a standing O, full standing O, during a

0:36:32.110 --> 0:36:35.540
<v Speaker 5>competitive-ish game where he tied up. Dan was a little

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 5>salty about this one. He came out of the gate.

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 5>Here's how it went.

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 3>I would have a problem with it.

0:36:41.170 --> 0:36:42.830
<v Speaker 2>Now, some of the Mets fans that we have who

0:36:42.870 --> 0:36:45.470
<v Speaker 2>work here in the back said this could have been

0:36:45.590 --> 0:36:50.630
<v Speaker 2>a middle finger to management. The fans are cheering the

0:36:50.730 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 2>guy that you allowed to leave via free agency. If

0:36:54.500 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 2>it's a frustration cheer, I understand that. But are you

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.020
<v Speaker 2>trying to tell me if you're in a pennant race,

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 2>you're holding on for a wild card berth. and Pete

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.710
<v Speaker 2>Alonso hits his 300th home run in the ninth inning,

0:37:09.270 --> 0:37:12.550
<v Speaker 2>you're going to give him a standing ovation? The answer

0:37:12.610 --> 0:37:13.339
<v Speaker 2>is no, you're not.

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:16.390
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm with Dan on this.

0:37:17.070 --> 0:37:19.090
<v Speaker 3>I think the Mets fan base has a little bit

0:37:19.130 --> 0:37:21.069
<v Speaker 3>of loser energy, Paul. I really do.

0:37:21.210 --> 0:37:23.950
<v Speaker 5>That's fair. It is a loser energy, but they are losers.

0:37:24.070 --> 0:37:26.569
<v Speaker 5>And I think that was a total frustration cheer last night.

0:37:26.610 --> 0:37:29.589
<v Speaker 5>Let's appreciate Alonzo. We miss him. Let management hear that.

0:37:29.610 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 5>We're cheering the opponent.

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<v Speaker 4>That's an interesting angle.

0:37:31.930 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 5>It felt like complete frustration because anyone in the building

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<v Speaker 5>last night is the hardest core of hardcore Mets fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, listen, I come from Philadelphia where we boo our

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 3>own players, let alone the other players.

0:37:41.340 --> 0:37:42.020
<v Speaker 5>When they're doing well.

0:37:42.980 --> 0:37:44.500
<v Speaker 4>Someone put a hypothetical to me.

0:37:44.780 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 3>If Chase Utley, a former Philly, had done something big

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<v Speaker 3>against the Phillies, would I have cheered?

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<v Speaker 4>No way.

0:37:49.810 --> 0:37:53.629
<v Speaker 3>Dan's actually totally right. If it's a playoff race, you

0:37:53.650 --> 0:37:55.570
<v Speaker 3>boo him no matter who he is. I don't care

0:37:55.730 --> 0:37:58.450
<v Speaker 3>what he did in New York. I definitely don't come

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<v Speaker 3>away from this feeling good about the Mets.

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<v Speaker 5>Feels like a must-boo situation.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go to the NFL.

0:38:03.070 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 3>The Chargers laid an egg against the Cardinals in Week 1.

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<v Speaker 4>Jim Harbaugh tried to explain what went wrong.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean, we made some preseason type of mistakes. Now,

0:38:13.580 --> 0:38:16.739
<v Speaker 9>in retrospect, you know, we should play our guys a

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<v Speaker 9>little bit more in the preseason and give them those,

0:38:18.810 --> 0:38:23.990
<v Speaker 9>give them those, those reps, but those game-like reps onward

0:38:24.890 --> 0:38:29.910
<v Speaker 9>and attack in all areas to, to find improvement.

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<v Speaker 5>Pearl, this is a classic blame me, not them situation.

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<v Speaker 5>He's taking the blame for not playing his players more

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<v Speaker 5>in the preseason. Thus, they couldn't have been ready because

0:38:39.090 --> 0:38:41.630
<v Speaker 5>he didn't let them be ready. Instead of saying, our

0:38:41.670 --> 0:38:43.850
<v Speaker 5>players didn't show up against a subpar team, he said,

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<v Speaker 5>blame me for not giving preseason reps.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's what went wrong. Why are coaches still

0:38:50.100 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 3>not playing guys in the preseason? You can see it

0:38:51.660 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 3>around the NFL. The players that played in the preseason

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.420
<v Speaker 3>looked better in week one. Maybe that's legit. Maybe it

0:38:57.580 --> 0:38:59.930
<v Speaker 3>was the lack of action. Maybe next year they'll come

0:39:00.030 --> 0:39:02.469
<v Speaker 3>out and give Herbert more time because they looked like

0:39:02.510 --> 0:39:03.830
<v Speaker 3>they had never played together before.

0:39:04.010 --> 0:39:06.430
<v Speaker 5>It was a total blame me situation. Here's another coach.

0:39:06.450 --> 0:39:07.710
<v Speaker 5>We've got to go to the next coach who was

0:39:07.750 --> 0:39:11.219
<v Speaker 5>frustrated and disappointed in week one. Sean Payton says the

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.540
<v Speaker 5>offensive issues, again, blame me, are on him. Here's how

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:14.899
<v Speaker 5>that went.

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 10>I thought there were a number of places we have

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 10>to look.

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:21.550
<v Speaker 5>Our third down.

0:39:21.110 --> 0:39:25.890
<v Speaker 10>Numbers weren't good. Our rushing numbers weren't good.

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<v Speaker 5>Pick your spot.

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<v Speaker 10>Look, it was just as a head coach always, whether

0:39:30.250 --> 0:39:31.969
<v Speaker 10>you're calling the plays or you're not, you know, it's

0:39:33.190 --> 0:39:35.370
<v Speaker 10>regardless of who's calling the plays. When you have a

0:39:35.390 --> 0:39:38.940
<v Speaker 10>game like that and you're the head coach, you know,

0:39:38.950 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 10>it's frustrating.

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<v Speaker 5>It's disappointing.

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<v Speaker 10>And I don't know that the feeling is any different

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<v Speaker 10>whether you're calling them or not, honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>This is one of the biggest stories in the NFL

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<v Speaker 3>to me. Broncos have Super Bowl expectations. Week one was

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<v Speaker 3>not good for Davis Webb. Not only did they not

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<v Speaker 3>move the ball, they had trouble getting plays into Bo Nix,

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<v Speaker 3>which was a problem last year. When does Sean Payton

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<v Speaker 3>take over is a legit question to me. And honestly,

0:40:03.020 --> 0:40:05.420
<v Speaker 3>I think sooner rather than later. Sean Payton's an awesome

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<v Speaker 3>play caller. Why is he doing this experiment? People are

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 3>saying maybe they didn't want Davis Webb to leave the team.

0:40:10.860 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 5>Yep.

0:40:11.650 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, he's not that valuable because, as Peyton, you could

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:15.980
<v Speaker 3>see there, he's not happy with the product.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Pearl, I think this is a case of Sean

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<v Speaker 5>Peyton backing his guy, Davis Webb, week one. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know in week four if he's going to do so

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 5>because if they can't run the ball, if they don't

0:40:23.380 --> 0:40:25.779
<v Speaker 5>get the ball to waddle, it's really nuts. Not getting

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:27.339
<v Speaker 5>the ball to waddle is really, really nuts.

0:40:27.500 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can't run the ball if you don't hand

0:40:29.140 --> 0:40:30.950
<v Speaker 3>the ball off. They only tried six runs in the

0:40:30.989 --> 0:40:33.430
<v Speaker 3>first half. It was a total collapse.

0:40:33.730 --> 0:40:34.290
<v Speaker 4>Hey, you know what?

0:40:34.310 --> 0:40:36.630
<v Speaker 3>They were in KC, but there's not a lot of time.

0:40:36.650 --> 0:40:38.590
<v Speaker 3>They have a hard schedule. They've got to fix it immediately.

0:40:38.790 --> 0:40:40.210
<v Speaker 5>He's a visor guy. Are you a visor guy?

0:40:40.530 --> 0:40:40.970
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:40:41.210 --> 0:40:42.049
<v Speaker 5>Never, never, right?

0:40:42.270 --> 0:40:44.510
<v Speaker 3>I think you need to be, A, an assistant football

0:40:44.570 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 3>coach for years to really feel comfortable in the visor.

0:40:46.860 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 5>If I coached in the SEC, I'd be first team

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<v Speaker 5>all visor. Coming up next, constructive criticism and a hot

0:40:52.180 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 5>new segment, Cool or Crazy. We love alliteration here on

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<v Speaker 5>Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Stick around.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we're back on Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Perloff. He's Pabst. In the last segment, Paul, you

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:02.259
<v Speaker 3>said you hate alliteration. That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet your name is Paul Pabst.

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:06.299
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

0:41:06.500 --> 0:41:07.340
<v Speaker 4>I wonder if that's why.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, with that, we're going to go to a new

0:41:09.140 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 3>segment called Cool or Crazy. We're going to look at

0:41:13.420 --> 0:41:15.980
<v Speaker 3>some great sound from college coaches around the nation, and

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:17.940
<v Speaker 3>we're going to decide if it's cool or crazy. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>start with a clip that everybody's been talking about. James Franklin,

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Virginia Tech. Was this cool or crazy?

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<v Speaker 5>Michael Howes with the Baltimore Sun.

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<v Speaker 11>Hey, Michael.

0:41:27.940 --> 0:41:28.760
<v Speaker 5>Hey, Michael.

0:41:28.950 --> 0:41:30.549
<v Speaker 3>What do you remember about working?

0:41:30.570 --> 0:41:31.069
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Michael.

0:41:32.030 --> 0:41:34.510
<v Speaker 5>What do you remember about working alongside? Hey, Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing, Michael? Michael, how you doing? Can you

0:41:40.790 --> 0:41:42.350
<v Speaker 3>hear me? Yeah, I'm saying how you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you? Good. Good.

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<v Speaker 5>This is What's Beyond Crazy. I thought this was like

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:50.479
<v Speaker 5>an AI glitch where they're going, hey, Michael.

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Hey, Michael.

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<v Speaker 5>Like a robot that the batteries are wearing out. He's staring.

0:41:54.890 --> 0:41:57.299
<v Speaker 5>He's not blinking. He's got the glasses. how do you

0:41:57.340 --> 0:41:59.020
<v Speaker 5>not know you're going to come off like an absolute

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 5>nutcase when you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You know, it's funny. I thought it was funny

0:42:02.660 --> 0:42:04.379
<v Speaker 3>at first. Then I was like, okay, I'm over this.

0:42:04.420 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 3>Now it's funny again. It's one of those things. It

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 3>gets funnier as we get farther away from it.

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:09.940
<v Speaker 5>And it's transfixing. I can't not watch it.

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<v Speaker 4>So the Michael, I don't even remember his last name.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>He's become a bit of a star because of this clip.

0:42:14.910 --> 0:42:16.870
<v Speaker 3>And he, now he's going on camera and talking about

0:42:16.890 --> 0:42:18.450
<v Speaker 3>the interview. He loved it. So he's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go to our next clip.

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<v Speaker 3>This is from Jason Eck, the New Mexico coach, who

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<v Speaker 3>is our kind of guy, Paul.

0:42:26.250 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 6>They're, um, going to be a challenge you know we're

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 6>definitely stepping up in class it's kind of like we've

0:42:32.140 --> 0:42:34.219
<v Speaker 6>you know been going to like fast food restaurants to

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:35.860
<v Speaker 6>eat now all of a sudden we got an invite

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.390
<v Speaker 6>to the nicest steakhouse in town and you're checking your

0:42:39.410 --> 0:42:41.529
<v Speaker 6>wallet to make sure you have enough to cover it

0:42:41.550 --> 0:42:43.330
<v Speaker 6>because you don't want to be embarrassed because this certainly

0:42:43.350 --> 0:42:44.410
<v Speaker 6>is a team that can embarrass you.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought this was like a Ted Lasso bit on

0:42:47.510 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 5>NBC or a bit on SNL that's like a Chris

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.259
<v Speaker 5>Farley this guy could sweat an ice cooler I love

0:42:53.300 --> 0:42:56.130
<v Speaker 5>this guy he's fantastic He's got star power written all

0:42:56.150 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 5>over him.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Jason Eck is our kind of guy. Fast food restaurants,

0:42:59.469 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 3>he looks like he knows all about them.

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:02.940
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I would call him before I went out to

0:43:02.980 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 5>eat anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think of a coach in general saying,

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, we're about to face a team that's really good?

0:43:08.060 --> 0:43:09.580
<v Speaker 3>I kind of got the vibe like, oh, I might

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:10.580
<v Speaker 3>bet against New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say he's more cool because he's definitely not crazy.

0:43:13.810 --> 0:43:16.510
<v Speaker 5>He knows what he's doing. He's completely calculated, and he's lovable.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, our next cool or crazy is John Summerall down

0:43:20.130 --> 0:43:24.049
<v Speaker 3>at Florida getting rather intense before their showdown with Auburn.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, there's ties, but Florida pays my mortgage, you know?

0:43:28.830 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 12>So any family that is pulling against us, they ain't

0:43:32.780 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 12>my family. I mean, I don't care what their last

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:39.100
<v Speaker 12>name is. You know what I mean? Allegiances, I mean, look,

0:43:39.500 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 12>I got a lot of respect for Auburn. It's a

0:43:41.300 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 12>great place, good people. I got a lot of friends.

0:43:45.810 --> 0:43:47.130
<v Speaker 12>My wife went to school there, you know what I mean?

0:43:47.370 --> 0:43:50.830
<v Speaker 12>And so a lot of crossover, but I'm a Florida Gator,

0:43:50.850 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 12>and everybody– affiliated with me closely as a Florida Gator.

0:43:53.860 --> 0:43:55.140
<v Speaker 12>They're not affiliated with me closely.

0:43:55.700 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 5>This is pure football, Coach. I'm done with my family.

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.580
<v Speaker 5>I'm only focused on football. That's a good sign for

0:44:00.620 --> 0:44:01.180
<v Speaker 5>Florida football.

0:44:01.460 --> 0:44:02.340
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a little crazy.

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.870
<v Speaker 3>I've always thought Summerall is performing a little bit. That's crazy.

0:44:05.910 --> 0:44:06.890
<v Speaker 4>His wife went to Auburn.

0:44:06.950 --> 0:44:08.330
<v Speaker 3>Is he not going to talk to her the week

0:44:08.370 --> 0:44:08.770
<v Speaker 3>of the game?

0:44:08.870 --> 0:44:11.509
<v Speaker 5>But his wife is rooting clearly for Florida because that

0:44:11.550 --> 0:44:15.710
<v Speaker 5>pays the bills. But her brother, is he rooting for

0:44:15.830 --> 0:44:17.819
<v Speaker 5>Auburn or rooting for Florida? You've got to go blood

0:44:18.030 --> 0:44:20.020
<v Speaker 5>over Actually, I don't know how it works in the SEC.

0:44:20.219 --> 0:44:22.379
<v Speaker 5>You stick with your squad, right? I think you stick

0:44:22.420 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 5>with your squad.

0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, listen, obviously he's rooting for him, but John Summerall,

0:44:25.820 --> 0:44:27.440
<v Speaker 3>a bit of a tough guy act there to me.

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 3>I will say that to his face.

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<v Speaker 5>Mildly crazy?

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:32.940
<v Speaker 3>Oh, definitely mildly crazy, but not too crazy. All right,

0:44:32.980 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 3>our last cool or crazy, let's go to Dabo Sweeney,

0:44:36.020 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 3>who made a comparison.

0:44:36.620 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 5>Crazy. I'm sorry I jumped this one.

0:44:38.660 --> 0:44:40.219
<v Speaker 11>I hate to even say it, but, I mean, I

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:43.730
<v Speaker 11>recruited Tebow. You know, so physically, you know, he's just

0:44:44.510 --> 0:44:47.930
<v Speaker 11>gifted like that. I'm not saying he's Tim Tebow. Please

0:44:47.969 --> 0:44:50.910
<v Speaker 11>don't say that and write that. I'm just answering your question.

0:44:50.950 --> 0:44:52.150
<v Speaker 11>Maybe I shouldn't have answered the question.

0:44:53.170 --> 0:44:56.850
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so Dabo was asked about his new quarterback and

0:44:57.250 --> 0:44:59.230
<v Speaker 3>made what I think is a mistake to compare him

0:44:59.290 --> 0:45:02.650
<v Speaker 3>physically to Tim Tebow. Dabo was obviously with Tebow at

0:45:02.690 --> 0:45:04.090
<v Speaker 3>some point. I don't know what he was saying. He

0:45:04.130 --> 0:45:05.890
<v Speaker 3>recruited him? Right. Oh, no, sorry. He recruited him and

0:45:05.910 --> 0:45:07.590
<v Speaker 3>didn't get him. He must have been probably at Alabama

0:45:07.630 --> 0:45:11.850
<v Speaker 3>or Clemson. You don't compare your incoming quarterback to Tim Tebow.

0:45:11.890 --> 0:45:14.390
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, one of the greatest, most successful college quarterbacks of

0:45:14.410 --> 0:45:16.730
<v Speaker 5>all time, whatever you think of his pro career. Dabo,

0:45:16.770 --> 0:45:18.130
<v Speaker 5>I think, knew in the moment. You see him kind

0:45:18.150 --> 0:45:21.110
<v Speaker 5>of go, oh. He kind of grappled with himself at

0:45:21.180 --> 0:45:22.460
<v Speaker 5>one point and said, what did I just do there?

0:45:22.940 --> 0:45:26.780
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you're right. That was a crazy, crazy comment.

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:28.580
<v Speaker 5>That was fun. Cool or crazy, I think that's going

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.580
<v Speaker 5>to be a staple here. Now, staying with alliteration as

0:45:31.620 --> 0:45:35.380
<v Speaker 5>we do here, it's time for Constructive Criticism. Here we go.

0:45:35.420 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 5>What you think about what we're doing, what we're saying,

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:41.529
<v Speaker 5>or maybe some sports stuff. Here we go. Would you

0:45:41.570 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 5>pay the PSL fee if your team built a new

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:48.830
<v Speaker 5>stadium after being a 20-year season ticket holder? I don't

0:45:48.870 --> 0:45:50.509
<v Speaker 5>know if you have a choice these days. I think

0:45:50.530 --> 0:45:52.990
<v Speaker 5>the PSL is the right to buy the season ticket.

0:45:53.750 --> 0:45:55.770
<v Speaker 5>What's your option? No longer be a season ticket holder?

0:45:55.790 --> 0:45:57.670
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you could shake your fist at the clouds,

0:45:57.690 --> 0:45:58.589
<v Speaker 5>but I don't know what you do here.

0:45:58.890 --> 0:46:01.230
<v Speaker 3>I don't buy it. I hate this so much. You

0:46:01.330 --> 0:46:03.870
<v Speaker 3>earn that season ticket over the years. And when the

0:46:03.930 --> 0:46:07.370
<v Speaker 3>new stadium comes in, probably paid for with tax funds

0:46:07.410 --> 0:46:09.950
<v Speaker 3>like we're going to see in Buffalo this weekend, I

0:46:09.989 --> 0:46:12.930
<v Speaker 3>think they're gouging fans. It's totally unfair. If you've been

0:46:12.950 --> 0:46:14.969
<v Speaker 3>there for 20 years, you should not have to pay

0:46:15.030 --> 0:46:15.380
<v Speaker 3>another fee.

0:46:15.390 --> 0:46:16.770
<v Speaker 5>It seems like everyone's doing it. All right, here's the

0:46:16.810 --> 0:46:20.969
<v Speaker 5>next one, constructive criticism. Paul, let's get this tailgate tip

0:46:20.989 --> 0:46:24.580
<v Speaker 5>of the week going. Football is secondary. I won't go there.

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<v Speaker 5>The tailgate is vital, but make sure you respect and

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<v Speaker 5>go watch the game. I don't like people who skip

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<v Speaker 5>the game for the tailgate. That's the tailgate tip. Don't

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<v Speaker 5>go into the game late. Go to the tailgate early.

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<v Speaker 5>If your game is at noon, you should start tailgating

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<v Speaker 5>by 9 a.m. At 11.30, you eat a lot, you

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<v Speaker 5>drink a lot, and start heading in toward the game.

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<v Speaker 5>There could be a lot of crowds. There's your tailgate tip.

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<v Speaker 3>What if it's like Notre Dame Rice where you know

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a blowout? Can't you come in

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<v Speaker 3>a little late, Paul?

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<v Speaker 9>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Ribs or something around, and they're good?

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<v Speaker 1>Ribs.

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<v Speaker 5>You didn't tell me about ribs. All right, next one,

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<v Speaker 5>constructive criticism. What is the required drop on a 12-foot

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<v Speaker 5>run of 5-inch gutters? That's a curveball question because you

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<v Speaker 5>and I aren't what you'd call handy.

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<v Speaker 3>The required drop, the 12-foot run.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know what that means.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they thought they were going to get us here,

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<v Speaker 5>but I went to the big German, Eric Jones, who

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<v Speaker 5>knows everything about everything, operations of the Dan Patrick Show.

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<v Speaker 5>He says you want it between a fourth-inch and a

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<v Speaker 5>half-inch slope per 10-foot run of gutters. I'd aim for

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<v Speaker 5>three-eighths of an inch of a total slope on the

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<v Speaker 5>12-foot run. Walk-off by Eric Jones, the big German. That's

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<v Speaker 5>gutter talk right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, to me, that's a line right there.

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<v Speaker 3>If you actually clean your own gutters and you're a

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<v Speaker 3>real homeowner, and I live in an apartment, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>never going to happen for me.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, it's time for the feel-good here, Perloff. This

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<v Speaker 5>is the feel-good. I'm not sure how good this one is, though.

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<v Speaker 5>Check this game out. Tanya, will you marry me? Jim, P.S.

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<v Speaker 5>the ring is on the way on the Jumbotron at

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<v Speaker 5>the Yankee game.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean the ring is on the way?

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<v Speaker 3>Like in the eighth inning it's coming in out of

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<v Speaker 3>the bullpen? What does the ring is on the way mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the boys at FedEx have it at the facility.

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<v Speaker 5>You've got to pick it up. The ring is on

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<v Speaker 5>the way meaning I'm asking you to marry me, but

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have a ring yet? Is that what that infers?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't afford the ring? So you get a little plastic

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<v Speaker 4>ring as a placeholder. Do something.

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<v Speaker 5>He's trying to lock her down with a ring to

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<v Speaker 5>be named later, and I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we need a not-so-fast policy on baseball game proposals

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<v Speaker 3>to start with?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, baseball game proposals. You should be at the game

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<v Speaker 5>with your possible fiancé standing there, and you should point

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<v Speaker 5>to the screen. I didn't see any camera work there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that might have come later. I'm not sure I'm

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<v Speaker 3>pro-proposal at a baseball game.

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<v Speaker 4>I might do it a little more romantic.

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<v Speaker 5>There is no more romantic thing than doing it at

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<v Speaker 5>a baseball game with hot, sweaty guys yelling around you.

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<v Speaker 4>At least have a ring. I mean, this guy's 0

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<v Speaker 4>for 2 in my mind.

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<v Speaker 5>You're better than that. You're 0 for 2, and you're

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<v Speaker 5>about to take the ha. All right, that's it for

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<v Speaker 5>us on Not So Fast. Tune into the podcast every day.

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<v Speaker 3>We're done.