WEBVTT - Ever After with Keah Brown 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.000 On the Bell Cast, the questions asked if movies have 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.960 women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.879 or do they have end individualism the patriarchy? Zef in 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:17.079 best start changing it with the Bell Cast. Once upon 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:23.400 a time there were two podcasters. But the story you 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.920 think you know about them is not right. It is 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:31.720 not accurate. You have some fantastical notion of this story. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.480 But they're really just two ordinary women hosting a podcast 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:42.520 and there and they're living, laughing and loving. The end. 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:47.840 The end, the end. Okay, fine, you know what, there's 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:52.320 no conflict. That was a great story. I okay, well, 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:57.400 welcome to the back Cast. I didn't have anything that 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:01.760 was the best I could come up with on short notice. Honestly, listeners, 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.840 I think it's because we have covered We're having a 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.240 really Cinderella e month, and I feel like we've kind 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.319 of burned out our Cinderella themed intros because over on 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:15.440 the Matreon we did Ella Enchanted and a Cinderella Story 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:21.160 for Cinderelluary, and now we're observing Cinderelluary in February with 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.119 an amazing guest. All I had to say, we've been 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:28.600 introducing Cinderella episodes quite a bit lately. What's your podcasts again? 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.240 So we are the Bechtel Cast. My name is Caitlin Darante. 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.440 My name is Jamie Loftus. And again we're so we're 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:41.280 just ordinary women, were commoners. In fact, we're just yeah yeah, 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:46.320 which some people don't care about, right, And we examine 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.200 movies through an intersectional feminist lens, using the Bectel test 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.840 as a jumping off point. Jamie, ye tell me what 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.800 that is, please. While it's an ordinary media metric in 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:03.600 which uh um we uh it was invented by Holy 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:08.320 sh it is invented by queer cartoonist Alison Bechdel, sometimes 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.160 called the Bechdel Wallace Test, lots of different permutations of 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.840 the test. The one that we use requires that there 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.400 be two characters of a marginalized gender with names who 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.960 speak to each other about something other than a man 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.920 for two lines of dialogue. You're in Luck today, baby. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.520 It's a movie that I think we were talking about 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.880 this as we were watching, Caitlin or you mentioned this. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.000 I think barely passes the reverse Bechtel test. Yeah, there's 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:37.840 not a lot of men talking to each other in 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.520 this movie. And we love that love so and we 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.919 have Okay, So we have a very not just a 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:47.600 very popular request, but an extremely popular guest returning to 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:53.400 continue her mission of covering the best Cinderella adaptations on offer, 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.800 which happened to come out one year apart. Right, Yes, 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:01.640 and these episodes are coming out almost exactly one year apart. 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:05.280 Because it's true. Right around a year ago, our guest 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:11.040 was on for Cinderella, The Brandy and Whitney Houston one. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.600 She's back for this episode. She is a journalist, actor, 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.720 author of the book The Pretty One on life, pop culture, disability, 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.040 and other Reasons to Fall in Love with Me, and 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.960 she's got a forthcoming children's book called Sam's Super Seats. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:30.480 It's Keia Brown. Oh god, Hi, thank you for having 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:34.080 me back. I'm pretty much you know, force your hand, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:38.400 but it was necessary. You manifested it. I did. I 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:43.160 quote all the YouTubers I watch. I had it on 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:48.320 my metaphorical vision board. I'm so thrilled that you brought 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:52.800 us this Cinderella adaptation in particular. We I know how 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.000 passionate you are about it, and it's um when I've 0:03:56.040 --> 0:04:01.720 never seen before. Recovering ever after Today, Ever After parentheses. 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.600 A Cinderella Story, not to be confused with a Cinderella 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:11.720 Story starring Hillary Duff and Chad Michael Murray. Chad Michael Murray, 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:16.479 Uh sorry, yeah, I know that this is Like have 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:20.760 you seen the Hillary Duff Cinderella Story And if so, 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:26.960 how recently? Oh? I own it? Like I have the DVD. 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:31.200 I watched it, I'd say at the beginning of no 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.279 at the end of December. I think I watched it 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:38.920 on Oh my god, so very recently. I didn't seen 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.920 it in over a decade. And I like, what a messy, 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:50.960 interesting film. So what is your relationship with ever After? Kia? Oh? 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.920 I mean it's a masterpiece. I think it deserved oscars. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:59.560 I feel like people need to see the movie, like 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.800 it's one of those movies where it's like, I don't 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.760 care how you feel about anybody in it, you still 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.240 need to watch it. Like it's It's one of those 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.680 films that I think is like the perfect intro for 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.400 people who don't know how they feel about a ram 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.760 com but I want to try them out. I think 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.120 ever After is that movie to give you you know, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.280 your way in because it's just it's a masterpiece. It's 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.839 a Gateway drug. Yeah, like everybody has a different accent, 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:35.919 Like everybody in the film has the same accent. Like 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:39.720 it's just correct, and I think it's like beautifully casted. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.719 And I just feel like some parts made no sense, 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.320 but it makes all the sense together, like you know 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.880 what I mean. Like ideally you'd be like, why why 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.719 do they all sound so different if they're from the 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:56.480 same place, But yeah, it's just beautiful. I'm obsessed with it. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.720 It's spiritually it makes sense. I know, I was. I 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.120 was getting some I wrote down. I was like getting 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:07.720 some House of Gucci vibes with the accent work, because 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.400 everyone allegedly is from the same place. But but I 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.200 also like how it's like they're in France there in 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.160 Renaissance era France. The only character with the French accent 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:23.320 is her father, a goost, who's only on screen for 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.120 the first like five minutes, and then everyone else has 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:30.159 a British accent, which is five that happens in movies 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.720 all the time. I feel like movies that are specifically 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.440 catered to like Western audiences, is like everyone's British, but 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.479 they could be from anywhere in Eastern Europe. But I 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.880 feel like it keeps coming to your attention because they 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.640 keep making fun of England and America while speaking in 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.279 British accents, but they're from France and you're like, huh, 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:58.359 they also Spain. It's a whole thing. Look. I was confused, 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:01.360 but also he I totally agree with. It's like, well, 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.520 everything happening is emotionally true, and so you're just like 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.359 on board with the ride, right, You're like, you know what, 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.960 I'll just I'll do this. It's it's fine, whatever is happening, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.600 I'm gonna let it do it, and it's just we'll 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.000 figure it out at the end. There's enough good stuff 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.080 going on. Yeah. Yeah, So like you know, you get 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.320 past the fact that it's literally nobody talks the same. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.440 Everybody's just kind of like trying to make it work 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.880 using their like listen, I'm just gonna be charming and 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:35.000 lovable and you're gonna deal with it. It's fine, we'll 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.080 figure it out and make it happen. I love it 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.200 and it works and it works. Jamie, you said you 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.000 had never seen this before, correct, I hadn't. I was 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.320 kind of surprised that I hadn't. I don't know why 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.520 I hadn't. But I guess that there's just so many 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:54.000 Cinderella adaptations from this era that you gotta miss one 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:55.720 of them, and I guess this is this is the 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.920 one that I missed, and I'm bummed out because it's 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.200 so so much better than a lot of the ones 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:06.320 that I did get very attached to. So I'm I'm 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.040 really thrilled to have seen it now. I think it 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.960 holds up like extremely well. I had a great time 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:16.040 watching it. And sorry, but Flee is going off today, 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.480 so he's just going to be present in the recording. Um, 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.040 and yeah, I really enjoyed it. Caitlin, had you seen 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.520 this movie before? I forget I had, but I didn't 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.400 grow up with it. I only saw it for the 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.440 first time during the pandemic and it was after Kia 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.160 we recorded Cinderella with you. So I saw it for 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.199 the first time within the past like probably nine months, 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:42.120 and I can safely say it's my favorite Cinderella adaptation. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.760 And I watched it like three times to prep for 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:50.080 this episode, partially because it's a very dense movie in 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.440 a good way, like it just there's a lot happening, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.400 there's a lot to digest, there's a lot to process, 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.319 but in a way that it's just covering a lot 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.960 of ground, and like there's all this class commentary that 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:06.280 you're not expecting from a Cinderella movie, even though the 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.360 source material is ripe to make that kind of commentary. 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.319 But most of them don't bother with it. So it's 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:16.120 just like really cool. And I like the movie a lot. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.160 I think it's well written. And oh my gosh, Angelica 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:25.200 Houston's eyebrows and all the work that they're doing, the costumes, 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:31.200 everything her eyebrowser put to work in this movie. She 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.600 really is like she's using her powers for good and 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.800 this one she and Angelica He's I'm trying to think 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:39.880 of who belongs in the Eyebrows Hall of Fame. I'm 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.440 going to work on this eyebrows Hall of Fame. Angelica 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:47.240 Houston's in there, of course, Will Poulter's in there. That's 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:52.200 as far as I've gotten. Well, it's a good start. Listeners, 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.920 If there's anyone that you're like, oh, this is an 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.760 obvious addition to Eyebrows Hall of Fame, please let me know. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:59.760 And by that I mean I think just people who 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:04.719 really we lead with their eyebrows. It's an unusual acting decision. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.560 I'll throw um. Well, I don't know if she leads 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:12.679 with her eyebrows, but Rachel Weiss has very prominent eyebrows. 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.520 Put her in. She's then I'm renting a space it. 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.719 This is an installation of doing um, I love it. 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.600 All right, we'll get there. Let's talk about ever after. Yes, 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:29.600 here's the recap. We open on an old woman telling 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:35.719 the brothers grim that their version of Cinderella is inaccurate 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:40.600 and too fantastical, but she has the real story, which 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:46.120 is once upon a time again. In Renaissance era France, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:50.280 there was a young girl named Danielle de Barberak. She 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.640 and her father, August are very close. He has just 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:59.840 married a woman, a stepmother to Danielle. She's a baroness 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:04.560 named Rodmilla de Gent and she is Angelica Houston. She 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:08.480 has two daughters, Marguerite and Jacqueline. And not long after 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:13.920 Danielle's new step family moves into their manner, Danielle's father 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:18.920 dies and she is, of course devastated. Ten years pass 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:23.520 we then meet the King and Queen of France and 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:28.320 their son, Prince Henry played by do Gray Scott. Is 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:34.480 that his name? Who is that not? Sure, okay, I 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.000 don't think so is it what is it? Is it 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:43.439 doug Ray? Is it doug Ray? Doug Ray would be fun. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.960 That's like the Margharita vill reed of that of that name. 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.360 How do you say his first name? I assumed it 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:58.560 was do Gray. Yeah, I don't know why I said Doury. 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:07.120 Let's just go with is terrible, but hey, it can 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:12.240 be anything we want. So Prince Henry is leaving his 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.959 tower to escape the pressures of palace life, to quote 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.160 Disney's Aladdin, because he is about to be forced into 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.440 an arranged marriage with the Princess of Spain, which he 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.880 does not want to be in. Meanwhile, Danielle is now 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:30.040 Drew Barrymore. And then you know, as the Cinderella story goes, 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.800 her stepmother has made her a servant in her own home. 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.760 She's cruel to Danielle. And then one day, as Danielle 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.720 is outside doing her chores, she sees a man stealing 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.720 her father's horse, so she pelts him with apples, but 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:51.520 then realizes that he's the Prince. He pays her to 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:55.520 keep quiet about having seen him, and with this money, 0:12:55.679 --> 0:13:00.319 Danielle can buy back quote unquote Maurice one of the 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.840 servants of the house who the baroness had sold to 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:08.480 pay her taxes. I really enjoyed that. I don't know. 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.360 I was like, oh, this, here's a fantasy I didn't 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.360 know that I had where a man looks ridiculous in 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.080 front of you and then he throws you a bag 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.320 of money and then disappears forever. I was like, that 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:24.600 actually should be more of a common practice. Right, he's 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:30.040 doing something bad, you're punishing him. He looks like a fool, 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.719 and then he's like, please don't tell anyone you saw this. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.560 Here's a bunch of money. I really think that that 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.640 would be a good thing. I mean, and then we 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.720 would we would all own houses, you know. Yeah, we 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:49.679 would be rich exactly, no debt. We can dream. So 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.040 that morning, as Danielle is serving breakfast, the Baroness is 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.760 especially cruel to Danielle, as is her daughter Marguerite played 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.760 by Megan Dodds, though the other step sister, Acculean, played 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:05.079 by Melanie Lynsky, seems much more sweet. I love Melanie. 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:11.000 I didn't know she was in this movie. She's there, 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.000 and her character is similarly bullied by the Baroness and 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:19.320 Marguerite then we cut back to Prince Henry, who on 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:24.360 his journey runs into Leonardo da Vinci as one does, 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.600 who is on his way to the castle because he 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:32.520 was invited to be the artists in residence. Is so wild, right, 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.280 I did not. Okay, if you, like me, hadn't seen 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.480 ever after, are you shocked to hear in this recap 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.760 that Leonardo da Vinci is And then I was like, oh, 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.400 that's an interesting But then he's there for the rest 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.480 of the movie. He's a main character. He's in many 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:53.920 ways the grandpa that Henry right right, like he's and 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:55.720 then in some ways, like there's a read of it 0:14:55.720 --> 0:15:00.720 where it's like he's also the fairy Leonardo Nci. Other Yeah, 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:06.880 he is a fascinating choice. I loved it, And tell 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.000 me your thoughts on this. So we see the scene 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.920 where Danielle is throwing apples at the Prince Leonardo Davincius 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:18.920 in the movie the da Vinci Code is apple. Uh huh? 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.600 Is the movie trying to tell us something? It is 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.600 trying to tell us don't watch The Da Vinci Code 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:29.200 when it comes out, like in eight years, absolutely ridiculous 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.760 dogship movies gonna come out and everyone's gonna say it's good, 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:33.960 and then you're gonna watched three years later and be like, 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:38.960 the da Vinci code was Apple. I still can't. We 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.120 We covered that on the Matreon like a year ago, 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.600 and I'm still furious about it, like we were all 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.920 the power we gave that man, Dan Brown when the 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.800 da Vinci code was Apple is so absurd. Alfred Molina 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.120 is in it, though, and that's it's one redeeming quality, 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.360 and so we can't write it off entirely. There is 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:04.600 cultural significance understandable, Yes, okay, So Leonardo da Vinci is 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.560 on his way to the castle, but he is being 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:11.320 robbed by a band of thieves. Henry recovers the Mona 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:15.200 Lisa that one of the thieves was trying to steal Prince. 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.800 Henry also goes to return the horse that he had 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:23.120 stolen from the Baroness to the baroness, and Marguerite then 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:27.400 tries to dazzle the Prince. She hopes that he will 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.680 fall in love with her and marry her. Meanwhile, Danielle, 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:35.320 with the help of her friend Gustav, secretly borrows a 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:40.080 fancy dress so she can impersonate a noblewoman and go 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.880 to the castle to negotiate the buying back of Maurice, 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:49.560 which she successfully does, something that Prince Henry witnesses, and 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:54.080 he is very impressed by her passionate speech about class 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.960 and he's like, wow, who are you. What's your name? 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.600 To quote Ella Enchant, You're not like other girls, like 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.560 this movie doesn't like directly say it to you, but 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.359 there but you know, same vibe. He's like, but there's 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.600 more nuance too, because there is. There is. I don't 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.639 want to keep interrupting you, but my one of my 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.520 favorite lines of the entire movie is when he comes 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:22.119 to return the horse and she says, oh, she's mute, 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.040 and he's like, but she was talking to me. Just 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.040 ride and she was like, oh it comes and girls 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:35.120 just a pleasant perfect The movie's got jokes, yes, So 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:39.240 Danielle is trying to brush off Prince Henry and she 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.720 finally tells him that she's a comtesse by the name 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:47.640 of Nicole de Lancre, which we learned was her mother's name, 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:53.320 and then Danielle runs off. Danielle and Maurice returned to 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.240 the manor. There is a very nice reunion with them 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.560 and the two servant women that Danielle is very close 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:04.720 with Paulette and Louise. Then the King, after arguing with 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.840 Henry about this arranged marriage, decides to throw a ball 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.199 in honor of da Vinci, who again is in the 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.520 movie as a character. Um, if Henry can find love 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.480 before the ball, he can marry whoever he falls in 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:25.200 love with, rather than the Spanish princess. But the ball 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:31.639 is only five days away. Done right. The Baroness and 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.359 all the ladies of the house get invited to the ball. 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.840 So so now the Baroness is like, okay, this is 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.600 our chance to like get the prince to fall in 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:44.480 love with Marguerite. She bribes Toby Jones, who is making 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:49.479 his American film debut in this movie. Yes, he had 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.199 been in a number of like British productions, but this 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.760 is his first role in an American production. I would 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:57.720 say that Toby Jones is actually doing a lot of 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:01.840 eyebrow acting and this role also okay, so he's going 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:07.560 into consideration for my gallery. Amazing. So Toby Jones's character 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.840 works at the castle in some capacity. It's a page okay, 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.600 got it. The Baroness bribes him to feed her information 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.600 about what Prince Henry is doing so that Marguerite can 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:24.840 basically stalk Prince Henry. Then Danielle finds out about the 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.280 ball when she walks in on Marguerite about to steal 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:33.000 Danielle's mother's dress and shoes, and the Baroness plays it 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.760 off like, oh, Danielle, you can come to the ball too, 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:41.240 I guess if you're on your best behavior. Then Danielle 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:47.200 bumps into Prince Henry again when she's having a little swim. 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:52.520 I love this something about like, I feel like we've 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:54.879 discussed the trope. This is not the trope, though, I 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.000 would say this is an inversion of the troupe, which 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:58.520 didn't exist at the time. So I don't know what 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.160 I'm talking about. But there's been a recent wave of 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.760 coming of age stories where at the peak of the action, 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.639 the peak of her uncertainty, the girl dives into a 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:15.359 pool and it's like like it happens in Ladybird, it 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.600 happens in eighth Grade, it happens all the recent coming 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.040 of age movies. A girl's jumping into an in ground 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:26.320 pool and having a moment. This is the opposite. Drew 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.440 Barrymore is having a moment, but she's like floating. She's 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.000 looking at this guy. She's having a nice time, and 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.840 she's like, I don't know. I really liked that moment. 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:36.480 I was like, oh, I want, I want to do that. 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:41.720 It seems very relaxing. Here was my thought. Leonardo DiCaprio 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:45.080 watched this movie and he's like, Wow, someone in water 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:49.360 swimming around, but they're still wearing their clothes. But he's 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:53.320 already been at it for years at that point, he'd 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.359 been in clothes in water. That's I mean. Titanic probably 0:20:56.400 --> 0:21:01.320 sued her and Romeo all we call this lawyer before 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:04.960 they left the movie theater, and was like, can I 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:10.240 sue for this is my intellectual property? Can you copyright 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:16.480 wet clothes? But it's so great though, because she was 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:21.919 just like they're minding her business, you know, like relaxing. 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.440 And then you're coming out of the virgie and he's 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:28.399 just like, hey, looks like rain. He's walking on water 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:32.840 because he's invented boat shoes or something. Who knows. I 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.680 love every time he's on screen. I'm like, I'm interested. 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:40.919 Whatever is happening. I'm interested. So Danielle bumps into Prince Henry. 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:45.520 They have another discussion about class. It becomes kind of flirty. 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.359 They're giggling, but then she has to run off and 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:53.640 get back home again. Then we meet this wealthy, creepy 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:58.879 guy Monsieur Le Pew literally love p you like we 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:04.320 get it pay l Pew Yeah, played by Richard O'Brien 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:08.280 of Rocky Horror Picture Show Fame. This guy has a 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:12.520 fixation with Danielle and he wants to marry her, slash 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:16.960 and trap her basically. Meanwhile, Prince Henry is kind of 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:20.400 going through the motions of courting Marguerite, but you can 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.239 tell he's not really interested in her because he like 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:28.560 someone else, surprised it's Danielle. Um. There are a couple 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:32.720 of instances where Prince Henry almost runs into Danielle when 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:37.880 she's in her commoner clothes, including when Danielle and Gustav 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:41.040 are in a field and she's trying to fly one 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:44.120 of da Vinci's kites, so she has to run back 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:46.199 to the manner get into a fancy dress just in 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:49.240 time for Henry to arrive and pay her a visit. 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:54.720 He then takes her to this huge library. She's dazzled 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:57.760 by all of the books Fairy Beauty and the Beast. 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:01.960 He has like a really I don't know why I 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:05.720 always focus on this in the scene, but like his 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:10.960 pants is very pronounced or whatever they had, it's very 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:14.680 pronounced in that scene. That is true of a lot 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.680 of this movie where whatever, like cod pieces they wore 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.679 back in the day. It's very distracting because I'm just 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:26.120 looking at the the giant bulge in these guys pants. 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:32.760 But that's yeah, it's like that said, let's not be 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:36.000 pointing fingers at the movie. Maybe you're just horny. Could 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:43.680 be sounds like me, okay. So on their way back, 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:48.600 the carriage breaks down and Danielle and Henry are bombarded 0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:51.239 by the same band of thieves. Then we get that 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:55.120 moment where the main thief is like, you can take 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:58.480 anything you can carry, and then Danielle picks up Henry 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:02.399 and starts to carry him away, and the thieves are 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:12.280 like feminism alert. I liked it though. Yeah. Then the 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:15.439 thieves are like, all you goofs, let's be friends, and 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:19.560 then they all hang out and Danielle and Prince Henry 0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:25.320 finally kiss. Meanwhile, Marguerite and the Baroness are trying to 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:29.480 get into the Queen's good graces, mostly by using deceit. 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:33.879 The Baroness uninvites Danielle from the ball after she stays 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:37.639 out all night, although the Baroness does not know that 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.760 daniel was with the Prince. Then Marguerite says something really 0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:46.680 rude about Danielle's mother, so Danielle punches Marguerite in the face. 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:54.720 So but then Marguerite retaliates by destroying a beloved book 0:24:54.760 --> 0:25:00.040 of Danielle's that her father gave her. Margite she he 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:07.320 is sorry extremely. Then the Baroness figures out that the 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.359 contests that the Prince has been spending so much time 0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.800 with that all of the courtiers at the castle are 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:19.080 gossiping about, is in fact Danielle. And then Danielle meets 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.920 up with the Prince again and wants to tell him 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.880 that she's actually a commoner, but she can't bring herself 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:28.800 to do it. Back at the manner, the Baroness confronts 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:32.800 Danielle about pretending to be a contest and locks her 0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:37.879 in the pantry. On the eve of the ball, no, 0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:42.440 so it's the ball is about to happen. Henry thinks 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:46.880 his contest is engaged to a Belgian man, so he's 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.480 about to relent and go through with the engagement to 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:54.640 the Spanish princess, but Gustav grabs Leonardo da Vinci, who 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.840 breaks Danielle out of the pantry. She shows up at 0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:02.959 the bay sentences, so weird need to draw everyone's attention 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:08.480 to the fact that the sentences or die. Okay, he is, 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:12.639 he is like, I needed to happen. I'm gonna do 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:17.359 what I can. Hope he's a shippers. He believes in 0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.080 he does. His portrait at the end was just like 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:25.520 fan fiction for the time. Yeah, He's like, well, I 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:29.000 can conjure whatever I want, So I'm going to conjure 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:34.719 this ship, like incredibly use of power. Why didn't Robert 0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.880 Langdon in the Da Vinci Code examine anything about that 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:44.000 painting and try to figure out Lawrence asking Also, we 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:46.920 didn't mention this, but in the framework, um, the framework 0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.240 of this movie reminded me so much of the beginning 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:53.560 of A Portrait of a Lady on Fire, because it's 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.240