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Speaker 2: are one week away, friends, your long annual springtime nightmare

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Speaker 1: My name is Andrews. Siciliano. The home office, Jason Gibbs

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Speaker 3: I am?

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Speaker 2: I finished all the stuff. I had some draft stuff

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Speaker 2: That's the level of sicko that I am. Because you

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Speaker 3: That's I admit it.

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Speaker 2: That's not normal.

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Speaker 1: That's sick I respect that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've, you know, long been an advocate of Abdul

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Speaker 1: Are you leaning in the direction? Because now that you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, I can't be I can't have Andrew

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Speaker 1: Okay, Because like if Abdul Carter saw on ig By

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Speaker 3: The three people walk older.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's coming. That's coming.

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Speaker 2: Now he's wide receiver one for me?

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Speaker 2: That's not who he is. I think he's better as

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Daniel Jeremiah'm my friend from NFL Network. Here.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive a little deeper there, because you know Jim Schwartz, well,

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Speaker 1: Real quick, you can't play Hunter inside, can you. He's

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Speaker 1: We're getting to the Browns quarterback thing here in a second,

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Speaker 2: This has been planned for a long time. This was

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Speaker 3: That's all now.

435
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Speaker 1: But you know how this whole machine works right out.

436
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Speaker 1: Like you know I read today, excuse me, the Steelers

437
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 1: have another running back in for a thirty visit. Nine

438
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Speaker 1: of their thirty visits have been running backs. Granted, they

439
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 1: need a running back, we all know that. But you

440
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: also know from working with the Browns, the Eagles, the

441
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: Ravens that so much of the last ten days. Now

442
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: we're at day nine. To Costa had a presser today.

443
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: Dan Morgan had a presser today. So much of this

444
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Speaker 1: final countdown is just information or more importantly, disinformation.

445
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Speaker 2: Over I would say that would be my initial thought,

446
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: except that our buddy Jack Andraid, who does research and

447
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 2: who's the best in the business at NFL network. Over

448
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 2: the last few years, I've had him and he's amazing

449
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: at it. I've had him watch all of these press

450
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Speaker 2: conferences and tell me and send me takeaways from him,

451
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Speaker 2: like what are the big takeaways that you took? And

452
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: what I learned from that, Andrew is we're giving these

453
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 2: guys way too much credit as tod poker players. A

454
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Speaker 2: lot of times that information coming from that, and they've

455
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Speaker 2: done and gone in that exact same direction on the draft,

456
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Speaker 2: and I've been able to on the set and be like, well,

457
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: they said they needed to this and this is exactly

458
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Speaker 2: what they just did. So I think sometimes we're giving

459
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Speaker 2: them too much credit for diversion. In other words, the

460
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: Steelers are going to take a running back at some

461
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Speaker 2: point in time, and probably sooner than later. May not

462
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Speaker 2: be at twenty one, but may be at twenty one.

463
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Speaker 2: May be at twenty one, but sooner than later.

464
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Speaker 1: All Right, The Steelers and the Browns are kind of

465
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Speaker 1: tied in together here because the Steelers also are potential

466
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Speaker 1: quarterback team in twenty one. The Browns are certainly a

467
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Speaker 1: potential quarterback team at thirty three. What do you think

468
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Speaker 1: happens at thirty three? Do they have to trade back

469
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Speaker 1: up if there's a guy that they want, do they

470
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Speaker 1: have to get ahead of twenty one? How do you

471
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: read the bottom of night one? And really I guess

472
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Speaker 1: the start with the Browns at the top of Friday.

473
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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be of just my opinion

474
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Speaker 2: as we sit right now, and however many days out

475
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Speaker 2: we are from the draft. Right now, I would love

476
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Speaker 2: to be the Denver Broncos because as it feels to me,

477
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: it feels like two to three not taking quarterbacks, and

478
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 2: that is those two teams. Then realizing, okay, we do

479
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 2: like Jackson Dart's the name to be fully transparent here,

480
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart connected with both both places, with the Giants

481
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Speaker 2: and with the Browns, and the destination is north of

482
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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh Steelers are picking at number twenty one,

483
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Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos are picking at twenty, so that to

484
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Speaker 2: me would be the team that could conceivably hold all

485
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Speaker 2: the chips if those two teams and the Browns and

486
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Speaker 2: the Giants want to come up for Jackson Dart. I've

487
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Speaker 2: made the case when people talk about do you take

488
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Speaker 2: a quarterback at three? Do you trade back if you're

489
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: those teams and just you know, if you're not comfortable,

490
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: if you'd like they say you're a Jackson Dark team,

491
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: you don't want to take him at three, you have

492
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Speaker 2: two options. We can trade back and take him, or

493
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: we can trade back in and take him. And you'll

494
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: know this as someone who's followed that team for a

495
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: long time. I came in there right after the year

496
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Speaker 2: after the what is not known as the Brady Quinn Draft.

497
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Speaker 2: It's known as the Joe Thomas Draft because Joe Thomas

498
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Speaker 2: was the first person to speak at that press conference.

499
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Speaker 2: As your first pick. It's a different situation when you

500
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Speaker 2: do that and then you have a quarterback come along

501
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: the year before I got to Baltimore. It's not known

502
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: as the Kyle Boller draft. You know that for sure.

503
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: It's known as a Cherell Suggs draft. They got one

504
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 2: they got one sure thing in the bucket and then

505
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 2: they took their swing and looking those two swings didn't

506
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Speaker 2: work out, but they walked away with with the sheer thing.

507
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Speaker 2: I think that's where this draft is headed, where you're

508
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: going to see both the Giants and the Browns get

509
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Speaker 2: the two sure things in the draft and whatever order

510
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Speaker 2: they come off and Abdul Carter and Travis Hunter and

511
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Speaker 2: then it's but you know what, we still want to

512
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Speaker 2: be aggressive, will take our swing, but that guy is

513
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Speaker 2: going to be second to speak.

514
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Speaker 1: And the Browns do have the two threes. They got

515
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Speaker 1: one from a Buffalo from Mari Cooper, which had the

516
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: time pell painful. It was kind of not waving the

517
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: white flag, but it was the surest sign that this

518
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: season is not going where you thought it was going

519
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: to go. But now with that extra three, you have

520
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: that ammunition. You also traded away the five for Kenny Pickett.

521
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Speaker 1: As for Jackson Dart, your comp for him, I think

522
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: would surprise some Browns fans. Your comp is and you're

523
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Speaker 1: not suggesting he's going to win a Super Bowl tomorrow,

524
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: but your comp's Jalen Hurts. Yeah, And I raised eyebrows

525
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: and I knew it would and I wasn't it. As

526
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: my son would say, it wasn't rage bait. It was

527
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: it was literally the comparison of a player in terms

528
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Speaker 1: of let's start with the body type, their strong, sturdy guys,

529
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Speaker 1: and then you look at guys who got better each

530
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Speaker 1: and every year that throughout their careers.

531
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Speaker 2: I think you can look at the same thing there. Now,

532
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: obviously Hurts is a is a better athlete, but man

533
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart ran for a bunch of yards in the

534
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Speaker 2: in the SEC and he can move around and do

535
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: things from that standpoint, and then maybe most of all

536
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: was the wiring. When you talk to people around both

537
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: of them, it was I don't want to say like

538
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: not you know, he's never going to fail, but it

539
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 2: was you can buy into the person. Like everybody talks

540
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: about how competitive they are, they're they're good leaders, they're

541
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: they're wired the right way. So you're betting on the

542
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: person as much as the player. That's where the comparison

543
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: came in for me.

544
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: Also, when you think about betting, if you were to

545
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: take Janalin Milroe, and honestly, I'm surprised he accepted the

546
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: invitation of Green Bay, But if you take Jayalen Milroe somewhere,

547
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: whether it's at thirty three or elsewhere, someone's going to

548
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: take them. Likely by the end of Friday, you're getting

549
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: that lottery ticket. DJ. What is Jalen Milroe's ceiling?

550
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Speaker 2: I mean as a as a runner, he's got a

551
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's ceiling. Like that's you know, different body type,

552
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: but that type of you know, this guy looks faster

553
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: than everybody else on the field. Speed like he's that's different.

554
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 3: So I mean, I.

555
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: Guess you would have to say that's the that's the

556
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: ultimate ultimate man. He it all came together, it all

557
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: clicked for him, which sounds lofty. Uh, you know, a

558
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 2: guy who's won multiple MVPs, But that's if it all clicks,

559
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: you know. But he's not entering into this process nearly

560
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: as accomplished as Lamar Jackson was. But that's the that's

561
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: the dream, that's the goal.

562
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: You surprised he went to Green Bay.

563
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, you know, on that on that deal,

564
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 2: I don't know what the thought process is behind the

565
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: invitations on some of those where it's do you want

566
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 2: to have a couple guys hangover for day two, like

567
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: just to have somebody else to bring up on the podium.

568
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: It's a lot of names, Like you're saying seventeen, I

569
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: think they're what seventeen invites or something along those lines

570
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: like that's the odds are that somebody's not, you know,

571
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: going in the first round when you have that many

572
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: guys invited. So I I just don't know what the

573
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: you know, what the logic was? Are you asking me

574
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: what I will I be shocked if he's a first

575
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: round pick. Yes, I would be shocked if he's a

576
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: first round pick, but I've been shocked before.

577
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Speaker 1: Would you if you had to choose right now between

578
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart and Tyler Shuck. Let's assume they're both there

579
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: at thirty three, what would you do?

580
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: I would take Dart. And it's not the people say, oh,

581
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,479
Speaker 2: it's just because he's younger or no. And I mean

582
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: the injuries, the injuries and the durability bother me more

583
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: with Shuck than the than the age does. And I'm

584
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to always push back when people say, yeah,

585
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: they're freak injuries. Injuries are injuries to me. Even in

586
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: a draft room, you don't differentiate like there's guys get

587
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: hurt and they get hurt more often than other people,

588
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: and that's the problem. So that's what concerns me there now.

589
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: He is big, he's got a strong arm, he's.

590
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: A good athlete.

591
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: There are tools the age I don't really care about.

592
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: I can understand why teams would would have him over Dart.

593
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: For me, I just think Jackson Dart is still on

594
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: that climb, still on that ascent, and I just feel

595
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: like I've got a guy who I've seen get the

596
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: absolute credit kicked out of him and get back up.

597
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

598
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: So I hate to use the phrase hot take because

599
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: that's not what I try to do. But the one

600
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: thing that I get pushed back from when I put

601
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: this on social media, and I'm not trying to make

602
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: some bold prediction. I'm not gonna like do a victory

603
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: lap if I'm right. I honestly don't care if I'm right,

604
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: but I know you kind of are of like mine.

605
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: But it's the opinion that Jackson Dark could go before

606
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: Shadoor Sanders nine days out, DJ, what do you think

607
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: the odds of that happening.

608
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: Are fifty to fifty.

609
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a legit possibility that he

610
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: ends up going ahead of Shdor Sanders, So you know

611
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: that's from just talking to different teams. And that's the

612
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: other thing is like, look, it only takes one team.

613
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: That's the answer to the question if you want to

614
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: take the easy way out, is that, yeah, you cant

615
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 2: have thirty one teams feel one way. If the one

616
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: team feels the other way and they pick them, then

617
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: that does it. I'm just telling you there are numerous

618
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: teams that have him over Shado or Sanders, so I

619
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: can't be surprised if that's the way that this ends

620
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: up falling when it all goes down, I have Shador

621
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: over him on my list, but I would say it's

622
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: a coin flip.

623
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Speaker 1: Talking to Janel's am, I here, how many running backs

624
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: go Thursday three three? Do you think Traveon's there at

625
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: thirty three for the Brons?

626
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. It's it's very similar to the

627
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs draft where everybody liked Jamiir Gibbs and everybody

628
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: and and I read it as everybody likes him. Everybody

629
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: likes him, but you know, nobody's committed that they would

630
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: take him, you know, super high. But everybody likes him.

631
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: And then the Lesson is usually when everybody likes him,

632
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna get some courage and go ahead and just

633
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: do it. And for someone that has the value that

634
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: he does as a home run hitter, and someone that's

635
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: unbelievable is you know, as a pass protector and catch

636
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: the ball. Everybody's trying to find the mismatch players.

637
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: You know.

638
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: Sean Payton notoriously came out and said he wants to

639
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: find his joker.

640
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: In the draft.

641
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: And that's what this guy is. He's a mismatch player

642
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: and a draft that's not real sexy. It's a hard

643
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's not hard to see teams fall

644
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: in love with this kid.

645
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: Well, the other thing too with him is and you

646
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: know this with rookie running backs, any coach will ask you,

647
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: can I trust my rookie running back on third day?

648
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: Right?

649
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: Can I trust him? In pass pro? Traveon Henderson isn't

650
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: just good at pass protection, like he is a violent

651
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Speaker 1: pass protector.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a I use the phrase I wrote it

653
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Speaker 2: in my notes, which I'd never done before. It's like

654
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: there's a matrix quality to his pass protection. Whereas when

655
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Speaker 2: he hits guys, you see the slow motion armed flailing

656
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Speaker 2: up in the air because he buckles people and he's

657
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Speaker 2: one of the best pass protecting running backs I've evaluated period,

658
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Speaker 2: Like he's outstanding in that department.

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Speaker 1: All right, two things left here and we appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Number One, what is the biggest surprise to come from

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Speaker 1: Thursday night? Like, if you had to write your NFL

662
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Speaker 1: dot com headline for Friday morning, other than the obvious

663
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Speaker 1: where the quarterbacks go? Or maybe maybe that's the headline.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but like, what's the wow moment? If

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Speaker 1: there is one?

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Speaker 2: Gosh, the wow moment, that's why it's a wow moment. Right,

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Speaker 2: They're hard to predict what the wow that's gonna be. Well,

668
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Speaker 2: I'll say this selfishly knowing that they won't do it,

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Speaker 2: but I'd love to see the Cowboys just do something interesting.

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00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: You've been so boring. I know they've had their winning years,

671
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: and I know we all joke about it, and you have,

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Speaker 2: I have, everybody has about Gosh, we just talked about

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Why are we like.

675
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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to talk about him anyways? So how

676
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: about do something interesting for once, Like let's see them

677
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: be aggressive and go up and make some Splash in

678
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Speaker 2: the draft. Whether that's trying to maybe move up a

679
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Speaker 2: few spots for Ash and Gent to bring him into

680
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Speaker 2: the mix, I don't know what it looks like, but

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Speaker 2: I just know we're gonna talk about the Cowboys. It

682
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Speaker 2: would be sure. It would be friendly of them to

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Speaker 2: give us something fun to talk about.

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Speaker 3: They're picking twelve.

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Speaker 1: We are contractually obligated, yes night, we actually are. We're

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Speaker 1: contractually obligated to discuss the Dallas Cowboys. And then, finally,

687
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Speaker 1: because I believe Anchorman was filmed in San Diego, right

688
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: where you sit right now, If you kiper Matt Miller,

689
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: Field Yate, Stane Brugler, if you guys all met in

690
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Speaker 1: a back alley, would anyone would anyone kill a man

691
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Speaker 1: or the trident? And if so, who oh? I wouldn't

692
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Speaker 1: trust Field Yates? Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: First of all, he's in phenomenal shape.

694
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Speaker 1: Start there.

695
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: The guy is in great shape, and he used to

696
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Speaker 2: be a bigger guy, so he's got bigger guy muscles,

697
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Speaker 2: but he's leaned up, so I think he could fight

698
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: all day long. And I just think that everything's I

699
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: love Field. He's the nicest guy in the world. There's

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Speaker 2: some deep rooted anger in there, and I think he's

701
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: suppressed it for a long period of time. And I'm

702
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: telling you you don't want to be around when that

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Speaker 2: comes out.

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Speaker 1: And he's got the fantastic hair. Now he's grown out

705
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Speaker 1: the hair for draft season.

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Speaker 2: It's not moving. He'll just have splashes of the rest

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Speaker 2: of our blood on him and his hair will not

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Speaker 2: have moved.

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Speaker 1: Almost like our dear friend Charles Davis. Maybe I should

710
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Speaker 1: have put him in there as well. And you and

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Speaker 1: I both agree he is the nicest man on earth.

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Speaker 1: He is America's But also there's an angry Chuck in there.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm getting.

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Speaker 2: Chuck in there.

715
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Speaker 1: There's angry Chuck in there. And when you see evil

716
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Speaker 1: Chuck come out, you best get out of the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think just out of respect Kuyper, they'd

719
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Speaker 2: leave Kuiper alive. Like nobody's messing with mel like appreciate

720
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 2: we all have our gigs because of you, So hands off, man,

721
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: you just get sit a sandwich and watch the rest

722
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: of us doke it out over here.

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Speaker 1: There is a show, and it will be a show

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night next week in Green Bay. Daniel Jeremiah

725
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: will be there hopefully with puppies by Saturday, but with

726
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: Ridge Eason undoubt on Thursday, Friday and Saturday all day

727
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: long for the NFL Draft twenty twenty five edition. Please

728
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: watch on NFL Networking. You're gonna be an ESPN this

729
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: week as well, doing all that. Love you man, glad

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00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: we did this, break a leg.

731
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Speaker 2: You're the best, brother, Love you man.

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Speaker 1: He's the best, all right, Give me a lot to

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Speaker 1: unpack there. Number one, It certainly seems that Daniel Jeremiah

734
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Speaker 1: is leaning towards making Travis Hunter his number one overall player,

735
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Speaker 1: which would be nice. He also has a Heisman Trophy,

736
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: which is also nice. But of all the awards on

737
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: his shelf, DJ's number one in his top fifty is

738
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Speaker 1: probably the best honter wide receiver or corner. The answer

739
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: is yes both. He also told NFL Network or former

740
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: NFL Network Research in turn, Garrett Total, who now writes

741
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Speaker 1: for CBS, that if he can't play both ways, he

742
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: basically wants to quit. By the way, I'm happy for Garrett.

743
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Speaker 1: I love the kid. The Browns would play him at

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00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: both at this point. There isn't a team that would

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Speaker 1: say we're not going to play you at both. The

746
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Speaker 1: Browns would play them at both, and Andrew Barry has said

747
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Speaker 1: if you go back to the combine, they see him

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Speaker 1: primarily as a wide receiver, which is good because they

749
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Speaker 1: need him primarily as a rookie as a wide receiver. Remember,

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Speaker 1: Martin Emerson is up for a contract extension. He was

751
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Speaker 1: not a first round pick. This is going to be

752
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Speaker 1: a year number four. Greg Newsom is in year five

753
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Speaker 1: of his initial rookie first round deal. He's on the

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Speaker 1: fifth year option. So there is potential at corner maybe

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00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: in two years, but this year give a I am

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00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: fine with him as a wide receiver moonlighting as a corner.

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Speaker 1: Although I know, and I've made this point too, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of easier the other way around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Gerrod was on Cleveland Browns Daily or

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00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: the earlier this week, Brown's analyst, sideline reporter, guy that's

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Speaker 3: played some corner in his day, and he said it.

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00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: Charles Davis was also on Cleveland Browns Daily this week

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Speaker 3: and kind of said the same thing. The most impact

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Speaker 3: that Hunter can have is definitely wide receiver, especially for

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Speaker 3: this football team. The greatest impact he can have his

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Speaker 3: wide receiver. It's is it an easier endeavor than corner probably,

767
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: but as Gerard said, technique matters at corner like and

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Speaker 3: you need reps upon reps and upon reps. And he

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Speaker 3: said having to divide reps between wide receiver and corner

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Speaker 3: could actually hurt his development as a corner in the

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Speaker 3: National Football League because you're taking away some of the

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Speaker 3: valuable things that you know, he needs to know. It's

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Speaker 3: a lot of level. It's a lot, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he averaged eleven hundred snaps a year the

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Speaker 1: last two years for Colorado. I don't think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna play both ways at the Browns take him.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, we're not we're not telling you

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Speaker 1: that we already know the pick. My gut tells me

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Speaker 1: that's the pick, because that is the collective, that is

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Speaker 1: the group think right now in the draft o sphere.

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00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: All right, that's what I believe. If it's Abdul Carter,

782
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 1: I'll be happy as well. I've kind of built myself up. However,

783
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: did Travis Hunter. Matt Harmon, who I respect a lot,

784
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: does does great work. Check him out his YouTube page,

785
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: check him out on Twitter. He primarily focuses on wide receivers,

786
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, getting off the line versus certain coverage separation

787
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: at the top of the route. Things like that, as

788
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: at all all kinds of numbers, said that looking at

789
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter the last two years, his get off off

790
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Speaker 1: the line, his operation against Pressman is the best he's seen.

791
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: Basically the comp is obj I mean that's saying a lot.

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Speaker 3: Well and then throwing mel Kiper earlier this week on

793
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Speaker 3: ESPN Cleveland saying Travis Hunter's got my highest draft rates

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Speaker 3: since John Elway. Great.

795
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Speaker 1: I mean, so John Elway ruined my childhood. Here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: Travis Hunters face. Yes, Travis Hunter would enrich my adulthood.

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Speaker 3: How about this? I like, I like that, Yeah, because

798
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Speaker 3: he ruined he ruined both.

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Speaker 1: I once told John Elway and he really didn't know

800
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Speaker 1: me from Adam at this point, very young in my career,

801
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: I was at a at an event at the Super

802
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Speaker 1: Bowl and I bellied up to the bar to order

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Speaker 1: a drink and he was right there. We had a

804
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: mutual friend. I dropped that mutual friend's name. He really

805
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: seemed unimpressed, and then I said, as he may have

806
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: told you, you ruined my childhood, and he was like,

807
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: all right, took.

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00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: His beer and left. That sounds about right for him.

809
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: Since we've connected. He's a nice enough guy. I have

810
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: no personal animus, but he ruined my childhood. Yeah one

811
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: ruined my child did yep? And Rich Carlos missed the kick,

812
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah you did.

813
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: But I mean that this is the praise that's being

814
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: thrown upon him, and Abduall Carter's got a lot of

815
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Speaker 3: praise as well. I don't I don't want to short

816
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: change Abduall Carter because clearly he is a top level

817
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: talent and there's a reason why he's been number one

818
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: on Daniel Jeremiah's Top fifty board for most, if not all,

819
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Speaker 3: of the draft process. He's a great player. I just

820
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Speaker 3: think for what we need, Travis Hunter makes the most

821
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: sense totally.

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Speaker 1: And there's a difference between drafting for need and drafting

823
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: the best player available. Obviously, this is the best podcast

824
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 1: available you you understand the whole concept. Taking Travis Hunter

825
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: over Abdul Carter is not drafting for need. It is

826
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Speaker 1: taking the best player available. And the rankings with Carter

827
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Speaker 1: and Hunter have been pretty much identical from everyone who

828
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Speaker 1: does this. As DJ said, he is not only wide

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Speaker 1: receiver one he is cornerback one. I mean, it's an

830
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Speaker 1: embarrassment of riches. It's on you and on your building

831
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Speaker 1: to figure out how to handle it. And don't please

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Speaker 1: misread anyone listening. What Hunter said is kind of a

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Speaker 1: veiled threat to teams. You have to play me both. No, no, no, okay.

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Speaker 1: The guy's a good kid. He truly truly your draft

835
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Speaker 1: for character drafting Travis Hunter for character is a great pick,

836
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Speaker 1: just my opinion. And he's also really good at football,

837
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: really good at football. Bit and that's a win win. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So.

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Speaker 3: Who knows. I don't know what will happen next week

839
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: when we kick off this podcast. Maybe everything changes over

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Speaker 3: the next five days.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's lay out between now and then real quick

842
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and we're recording this on Tuesday and Wednesday.

843
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: Andrew Berry is going to speak. It is his typical

844
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: pre draft presser. Almost every team does this, as you've

845
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: seen them trickle in during the week. There aren't many headlines.

846
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: Vrabel did one in New England rather than Elliott Wolf

847
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: claimed he didn't know what the Titans or Browns who

848
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: were doing the Browns probably the Titans. There's no way

849
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: obviously he doesn't know what they are doing. The one

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00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: in Carolina is interesting. Dan Morgan wouldn't comment on whether

851
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: or not they would pick up a fifth year option

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00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: on left tackle Ikiakwanu. Those are due May first. I mean,

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00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: that's really just I think draft lying season here. Why

854
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: tell anyone they're picking eight right ahead of the Saints.

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00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: Let people guess they're in a great position with news

856
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: of the Derek Carr injury. And then there's the Miami presser,

857
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: which got contentious with Jalen Ramsey, with Tyreek Hill, with

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Speaker 1: whatever they were asked whether or not they're going to rebuild.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it got ugly. I do not expect any

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Speaker 1: major headline out of Andrew Barry's presser. And that's not

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Speaker 1: a knock on him. It's simply the fact that he

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00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: is known, and this is a compliment to hold his

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Speaker 1: cards close to his vest.

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Speaker 3: Well. And I think you're not gonna get anything draft

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Speaker 3: wise that we're not going to talk about it, and

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have a thirty minute presser, but you could

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Speaker 3: get a nugget or two based on you know, is

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Speaker 3: someone going to ask him about Greg Newsom yep? And that,

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Speaker 3: and you know the option years or you know, an extension,

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Speaker 3: an extension for MJ you know some of these other guys.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure he's gonna get in a jub question.

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Speaker 3: So I mean that it's probably gonna be more about

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Speaker 3: the current roster and NFL free agency than it is

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Speaker 3: learning anything really about the draft.

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Speaker 1: And then the players are back in the building next

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Speaker 1: week for the first stage to the offseason program that

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Speaker 1: there's no football, nothing like that. It's all lifting weights

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Speaker 1: and working out. But they're back of the building and

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski will have a presser pre draft next Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: last week or next week as well. Yours truly will

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Speaker 1: be there at the Cross Country Mortgage campus handing out

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Speaker 1: Hawaiian T shirts with the words We're not here to

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Speaker 1: hang out on them.

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Speaker 3: I love it, I love it, love it. You know

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Speaker 3: I need a big one. I need a large one.

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Speaker 3: And then you, as philis said, I needed to run.

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Speaker 3: I need to take a phage off of your book

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Speaker 3: and do a little running myself.

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Speaker 1: You texted how's your chess game? As well?

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Speaker 3: Well. I don't know if you've seen it, but Abdull

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Speaker 3: Carter beats Stefanski in chess.

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Speaker 1: When you know I missed that.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, that's why I said, how's your chess game?

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Speaker 3: Coach Kevin Stefanski doesn't lose at chess very much. He

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Speaker 3: is an esteem chess player. I did not Bill Carr

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Speaker 3: beat him in his visit here.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, do we think Stefanski took a dive?

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Speaker 3: I don't see coach taking a dive. I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's that guy.

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Speaker 1: I think he's I mean, you build up the young

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Speaker 1: players here ingratiating yourself to the potential second overall pick,

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Speaker 1: just saying they went to rival high schools.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Could he stomach that?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't see coach allowing someone.

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Speaker 1: Just to who would win. Stefanski and Amari Cooper back

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Speaker 1: in the day.

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Speaker 3: They it was very competitive. A got him once or twice.

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Speaker 3: I know coach got his fair share of victories as well.

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Speaker 1: Has coach ever played Stephen Kwan? I don't have an

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Speaker 1: answer for you, because good Stephen Kuan is. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say he's elite. I think you can he's

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Speaker 1: He's damn good. That's a charity events defans against Stephen

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Speaker 1: Kwan for.

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Speaker 3: Coaches foundation to watch them play chess.

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Speaker 1: I've never called play by play on chess. Let's do it,

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. I like you, all right, all right,

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Speaker 1: I like it as well. This is another rambling edition

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Speaker 1: of the best podcast available. Thank you to Daniel Jeremiah.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next week, it is finally mercifully Draft week

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Speaker 1: and we'll be joining you live from the Cross Country

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Campus Live debatable, but cross Country Mortgage Campus not

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Speaker 1: enjoy your final weekend before the draft festivities for Jason Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: My name is Andrews Siciliano.

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Speaker 3: So long.