1 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, ba fam, It's Mandy here for another episode 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: of the Baqa the Baqa. I hope you guys are 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: having a wonderful start to the month. I am so 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: excited to be here taking all of your wonderful questions. 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Hit us up at Browndambition podcast dot com. Let that 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: be the first stop on your tour of our website 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: or brand new website. If you haven't seen it, please 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: check it out. It's beautiful if I do say so myself. 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: And while you're there, ask us anything. You can email 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: us at brand Ambition Podcast. Through the website. You can 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: find out how to find us on Instagram through the website, 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: so bronambitionpodcast dot com. I cannot wait to get your 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: questions anything career of money. I am your girl and 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: thank y'all again for the continued support. What else is 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: happening in my world? Y'all know I'm coming up on 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: a year of Mandy money. I can't believe it. Oh man, 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: it's almost been a year. I gotta figure out how 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: to plan a party. If y'all have any ideas of 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: how to celebrate a year in business, just let me know, 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: because my my deep you know, Leo Hart here the 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: lion wants to dance. Okay, I want a party. I 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: love an affair. I love to have a good time. 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: So I'm just thinking back on a year in business. 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: It's tax season right now, and for any entrepreneurs out 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: there who are like sweating it, you know, first quarter 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: taxes and then closing out taxes for last year. My 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: accountant is my secret weapon. And I'm not even going 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: to sit here and pretend like I know a bunch 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: of stuff and can and give lots of advice on 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: how to, you know, manage your taxes this time of year. 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: But my biggest piece of advice is to don't stick 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: her head in the sand. Actually go ahead and hire someone. 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: It is worth the money, not only to find an accountant, 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: but also to find a bookkeeper. Even in the first 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: quarter of this year, I didn't think I did anything 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: that funky, But when I tell you, my bookkeeper had 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: about twelve thirteen different questions for me to answer and 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: line items and my expenses and my income to figure out. 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So I'm so glad I'm getting on 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: top of that. Where did I find my bookkeeper and 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: my accountant? I asked a friend. I asked a fellow 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: business owner, you know, where do you do your taxes? 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: And I asked someone local so that I could find 44 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: someone local, and fortunately I interviewed them both and their 45 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: husband and wife duo, and they are fabulous. So if 46 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: you're someone who's whether you've just launched a business or 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: you've been in business for a couple of years, I'm 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: talking to you, nubie entrepreneurs like myself, go ahead and 49 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: outsource that and get some help. It makes me feel 50 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: so much more at ease, and it makes me not 51 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: fear that I'm going to have a nasty letter from 52 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: the Irs hitting my mailbox any day now telling me 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: that I owe them eleveny million dollars. Okay, so happy 54 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: tax season to all of y'all. Also, my goodness, it's 55 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: been almost a year in business, and y'all know, when 56 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: I started Mandy Money, I created my own website myself. 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: Squarespace is a sponsor of the podcast, but even before 58 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: they became a sponsor, I was a fan. I used 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: Squarespace to create mymandymoney dot com website, and I have 60 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: to let y'all know there is a whole newmandymoney dot 61 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: com for y'all to check out. You can check it 62 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: out mandymoney dot com. It's Mandy with an I. I 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: partnered with the same badass web designer who did the 64 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: new brand Ambition podcast dot com. Her name is Shirleyansley. 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: She is amazing black woman, mama partner in crime for me. Now, 66 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: for all my website needs check out, I'll put a 67 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: link to her website in our show notes. And I 68 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: told Shirley I was going to do it, and I 69 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: was like, you're probably not prepared for lots and lots 70 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: of people to want to work with you. I think 71 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: she's already sold out and booked for the next few months. 72 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: But she deserves all of her success. She's great at 73 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: what she does, and as a fellow mom and entrepreneur, 74 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: I gotta support my girl, Shirley. So I will put 75 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: a link to her website. She is phenomenal and I'm 76 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: so happy with the new look at mandymoney dot com. 77 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: All right, Well, with that being said, let me get 78 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: on into the inbox and see what kind of questions 79 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: y'all have today. All right, so today's show is going 80 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: to be all about money, honey. Our first question comes 81 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: from an anonymous listener who had the courtesy of giving 82 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: me her own pseudonym, and I'm a fan Balance transfer Bell. Hello, 83 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: balance transfer Bell, let's talk. My question is, with interest 84 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: rates going up now that the FED is working on inflation, 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: should I lock in the zero percent balance transfer rates 86 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: that my credit cards are offering with a three percent 87 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: transfer fee or wait until the next offer comes along. 88 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: Here's some context. I've been for the last two years 89 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: rolling over approximately sixty thousand dollars of debt on credit cards. 90 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: I have been under employed during COVID and in a 91 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: precarious living situation. In order to keep all those plates spinning, 92 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: I decided it was better to borrow the money from 93 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: myself and deal with the three percent balance transfer fees 94 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,119 Speaker 1: and make sure all my bills like student loans, card notes, 95 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: rent were paid on time. As a result, my credit 96 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: isn't great because my balance to limit ratio are high, 97 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: but I have zero issue paying my bills on time. 98 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: I've been doing this now for two years, and I 99 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: honestly believe this is the year when I'm finally going 100 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: to get a decent job and be able to pay 101 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: down this loan. But a few additional things about this 102 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: sixty K worth of credit card debt that I have 103 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: been rolling along, so they're spread against different cards, and 104 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: they all have different terms that are up at different times. 105 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: I know I need to move the money before those 106 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: terms expire so I don't get hit with additional interest. 107 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: But the offers come when they come, so there's no 108 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: guarantee that a new zero percent balance transfer offer will 109 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: come in time. Also, I should let you know that 110 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: I put a large amount of money that I had 111 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: sitting in savings in the stock market. I didn't need 112 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: to use all the money, but I wanted to make 113 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: sure I could make my minimum payments and have an 114 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: emergency fund. I want to leave that money in the 115 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: market in order to not take a loss. I know 116 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: it's a lot, but I want to leave my money 117 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: in the market, invest and pay off these loans in 118 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: the next year and a half. But I want to 119 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: know if the next balance transfer offer that pops up 120 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: overlaps with my zero percent offer, should I jump at it, 121 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: because even with the added cost of a balance transfer fee, 122 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: it could be a safer bet since rates are finally rising. 123 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: Let me know what you think. I appreciate all that 124 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: you do, oh Man, Balance transfer bell, this is a doozy. 125 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: So sixty thousand dollars worth a credit card debt, you know, 126 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: I got to give you major props because you actually 127 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: took advantage of a very useful tool via a zero 128 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: percent balance transfer offer, to keep that sixty k from 129 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: spiraling out of control. It's a lot of credit card debt, 130 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: and because it's spread across different cards, it's still a 131 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: lot to juggle. Yeah, to keep up with those term 132 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: expiration dates. I hope you're reading the fine print because 133 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: you could get a hit with additional interest fees, but 134 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: you can also have deferred interest clause, which would actually 135 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: go all the way back to the beginning and when 136 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: you open those credit cards and smack all that interest 137 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: onto your balance, so it would be like you were 138 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: paying interest all along. So you're left not only with 139 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: those interest charges, but also way more debt than you 140 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: actually started off with. My biggest concern, and my question 141 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: is have you actually been making payments on these credit 142 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: cards or just shuffling them around, Because shuffling them around 143 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: is savvy, but if you're not actually putting a dent 144 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: in them, then you're really just kicking the can down 145 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: the road and you're creating more stress on yourself, and 146 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: like you said, it's stopping you from being able to, 147 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, make investing and saving decisions that could really 148 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: build help build you wealth in the future. I'm fearful 149 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: that if you don't start tackling this sixty thousand dollars 150 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: worth of debt, that it will get to the point 151 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: where you kind of reach your balance transfer cliff. I mean, 152 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: there are some you know, balance transfers are not a 153 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: total panacea for credit card debt, right, So there's a 154 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: couple of limitations. One, you typically cannot transfer a balance 155 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: from a credit card at a certain bank to the 156 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: same bank. So that means if you've got ten dollars 157 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: on a Chase credit card, even if Chase has a 158 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: zero percent balance transfer offer, you can't transfer that balance 159 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: onto a Chase credit card. You have to go to 160 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: another issue or bank and find a zero percent balance 161 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: transfer offer from them. There also may be limitations on 162 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: how often you can transfer balances, you know, at one 163 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: bank to the other. So definitely want to read that 164 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: fine print. You've put a bunch of money into the market, 165 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: and I get what you're saying. You know, you don't 166 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: want to take it out. You don't want to lose 167 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: and miss out on those gains. And I think that 168 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: that is, you know, it makes a lot of sense. 169 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: But the fact that you were able to invest in 170 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: the market tells me that you've got extra money and 171 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: extra funds that you could be using to pay down 172 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: this credit card debt. So I would think a little 173 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: bit differently about how much money you're putting toward your 174 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: investments and instead start siphoning some of that money to 175 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: your credit card debt. That's sixty K. Like I said, 176 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: you're managing it right now, but it's like spinning plates, 177 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: and you keep not only spinning plates, but you're like 178 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: doing it on your tippy toes. And then you're going 179 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: to try to like lift one foot off the floor 180 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: and you're just making it. It's getting harder and harder. 181 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: Then you're going to be like, oh, I can do it, 182 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: but I can put one hand behind my back. Eventually 183 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: it's all going to come crashing down. So that's why 184 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: I want you to come up with a plan that 185 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: lets you put additional funds toward that debt. Now I 186 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: know that this is brown ambition, and we talk about 187 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: the importance of investing and wealth building. Sure, but I 188 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: don't want you to lose sight of that credit card debt, 189 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: because honestly, paying down debt can also be a form 190 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: of investing, especially if that debt is going to be 191 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: costing you or has the potential to be costing you 192 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: down the line. So maybe what you could be doing 193 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: while you're enjoying the remaining terms of your zero percent 194 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: balance transfer options that you've got is to start creating 195 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: a bit of a cash nest eck that you can 196 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: use to start paying down those credit cards sooner rather 197 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: than later. And maybe whatever you've put into the stock 198 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: market so far, you kind of let that sit, and 199 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: you say, cool, I put this wind far into the 200 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: stock market. I'm going to let that rock and I'm 201 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: not going to touch it. That's fine, but you've got 202 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: to throw everything you've got left at these credit cards. Now. 203 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: You talk about zero percent balance transfers also not always 204 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: coming around every day of the week. While it's true, 205 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: especially if banks know, and they always have a way 206 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: of knowing, don't they. If you're someone who's likely to 207 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: take advantage of balance transfer offers, I imagine you get 208 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: a lot of those offers in your email or in 209 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: your old snail mail through the mailbox. That being said, 210 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: you don't always have to wait for an offer to 211 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: come across your you know, your inbox in order to 212 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: take advantage. You can actually use sites like nerd. While 213 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: at Magnify money, just do a quick Google search to 214 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: see what banks out there are offering zero percent balance 215 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: transfer cards right now, and you can take advantage of those, 216 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, if you qualify. I'm actually really impressed that 217 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: you say you've managed to maintain such a high credit 218 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: score even though you're maintaining pretty high balances. And that's 219 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: probably due to the fact that, like you said, you 220 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: haven't been missing payments because you've been set enough to 221 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: take all those spinning plates and move them around strategically 222 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: to different, various zero percent balance transfer options. That's super savvy. 223 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: But how long can you keep that up? Sure, if 224 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: you see a zero percent balance transfer offer and it's 225 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: going to give you and buy you more time, and 226 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: it's a smart way to you know, offload some of 227 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: that debt and save you what interest, even though you are, 228 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: like you said, paying a balance transfer fee. Okay, fine, 229 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: but what are you really going to be doing in 230 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: the long term? Like, what's the long term strategy. I 231 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: am so excited and I'm hopeful too that you'll find 232 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: a job that's going to increase your income to help 233 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: you pay down that debt. I really hope that happens. 234 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: But if it doesn't, or let's say you even do 235 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: get that job, but you're not able to put as 236 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: much as you want toward your debt, what are the 237 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: sources of income can you be bringing in? You know, 238 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: are there any ways that you can be freelancing or 239 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: bringing an additional income to help tackle that debt? And 240 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: if a balance transfer doesn't sound like something that you 241 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: can keep up for much longer, you could consider taking 242 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 1: on a debt consolidation loan at a credit union or 243 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: an online lender. Yes, it's not the juicy zero percent 244 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: interest offer that you may get from credit cards, but 245 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: it gives you more peace of mind because it's a 246 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: fixed interest rate loan, meaning it's not going to go up. 247 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: You mentioned the FED has been raising rates to combat inflation, 248 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: which it does. That's the whole point of the FED, 249 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: which means that credit card debt and other types of 250 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: loans can get more expensive, So it can be nice 251 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: to lock in a fixed interest rate through a debt 252 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: consolidation loan like a personal loan through a credit union 253 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: or a lender, because at least then you know this 254 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: rate is my rate. No matter what the FED does, 255 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: I'm going to get this juicy, great rate. And because 256 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: you've got decent credit, you know your chances of getting 257 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: one of the lower rates is fairly high. I mean, 258 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: obviously I don't know all of your information, but let's 259 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: just assume it is. So look into that fixed rate, 260 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: fixed term personal loan. And by fixed term, I mean 261 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: they're going to give you a loan and say you're 262 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: going to owe this this your monthly payment for the 263 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: next five to seven years or whatever the term of 264 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: your loan is. And then you always know what your 265 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: monthly payment is going to be. And because it's a 266 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: fixed rate loan, you know the rate is not going 267 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: to change. So as much as balance transfer cards are 268 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: a good option, they are a band aid, and I 269 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: think a long term debt payoff solution like a debt 270 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: consolidation loan can make some sense. But because balance transfers 271 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: are so good and you got your zero percent offer, hey, 272 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: you've already proven that you can multitask like no other 273 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: like women are freaking amazing at multitasking. I just know 274 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of men out there who probably couldn't 275 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: not to it. I know men are not a monolith, 276 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: but to manage all those different cards and all those 277 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: different term limits and balance transfer offers like that is 278 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: no small feat. So you know, I commend you for that, 279 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: and I say, as long as you can keep it 280 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: going and you're not, you know, losing sleep and your 281 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: eyes are not spinning out of your head, you know, 282 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: continue taking advantage of those zero percent balance transfer offers. 283 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: As long as you can get them, you can qualify them. 284 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: But when it starts to look like you're gonna need 285 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: a way to help pay off some of this debt 286 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: beyond balance transfers, you know, consider a debt consolidation loan. 287 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: Consider starting a relationship with a credit union that will 288 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: also help improve your credit. I know you said your 289 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: credit's pretty decent, but with your high utilization rates on 290 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: credit cards, you know, that's a double whammy for your 291 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: credit score. Not only is a high utilization gonna diminish 292 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: your credit score because it's like the second biggest factor 293 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: of your credit score, that high utilization rate, but it's 294 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: the types of debt that you have too. It's the 295 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: revolving credit card debt, and credit scoring models tend to 296 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: favor installment loans, which like a debt consolidation loan, that's 297 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: an installment loan versus high interests revolving credit cards. So 298 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: something to think about as well for the long term. 299 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, you're kind of a I'm gonna 300 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: change your name from balance Transfer Bell to balance transfer Badass. Okay, 301 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing your question. That was 302 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: a juicy one. Let me take a quick break. I 303 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: will be right back with more of your question. Hey, hey, 304 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: all right, I am back with another credit score question. 305 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: I love them. Keep them coming, y'all. Brandimissionpodcast dot com 306 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: send us all of your questions. Another listener who'd like 307 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: to remain anonymous, I'm gonna call her. We had balance 308 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: Transfer Bell slash balance Transfer Badass, so I'm gonna call 309 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: her Credit Queen, Credit Queen. Hello, thank you for your question. 310 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: Credit Queen says, I am paying down my debt and 311 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: I've paid down twenty thousand dollars with high interest credit 312 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: card debt. Woho, that is amazing. I'm about to tackle 313 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: the highest balance I have yet, thirty four thousand dollars 314 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: on a credit card with a thirty eight thousand dollars 315 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: credit limit. Yikes. Overall, my credit utilization rate is sixty 316 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: percent with all the other open credit lines that I have. Again, 317 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: all the other credit cards are down to zero. This 318 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: is the last one I have left, thirty four K 319 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: on a thirty eight K credit limit card. My question 320 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: is should I close down this very high balance card 321 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: and with a high credit livet. I've already cut up 322 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: the card. I'm working on my money habits and my 323 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: plan so that I'm no longer putting expenses on credit. 324 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: But with closing the card, affect my credit or make 325 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: it better since my credit utilization will technically be better, 326 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm paying off this card. I've never been laid on 327 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: the payments. Also, I think I want to look into 328 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: taking a personal loan to pay it off with a 329 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: better interest rate and then close the card. Thanks for 330 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: your help, ooh, this is a perfect combo question to 331 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: go along with our question in the first half of 332 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: the show. First and foremost, congratulations, paying down twenty thousand 333 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: dollars of high interest credit card debt is no small 334 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: feed so I am giving you all the snaps, my friend, 335 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: all right, quit credit queen. So you got thirty four 336 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: K and a thirty eight K credit card. The fact 337 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: that you know enough to understand how to calculate your 338 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: credit utilization rate tells me I am not dealing with 339 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: a newbie here. You actually know something about how credit 340 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: scores are determined and how power they can be. So absolutely, 341 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: having such a high balance on this credit card could 342 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: really be hurting your credit score. I mean, you have 343 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: almost one hundred percent balance used on one credit card, 344 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: but you have saved yourself from having terrible credit, it 345 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: looks like, by having additional lines of credit. So the benefit, 346 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: while we're seeing here from this your own example, is 347 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: the benefit of keeping credit cards open, because if you 348 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: had closed down those other credit cards as you pay 349 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: them off, then you'd be left with like a ninety 350 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: nine percent utilization rate right now, and your credit score 351 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: would totally tank, because that is the second most important 352 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: scoring factor apart from making on time payments, which is 353 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: great to hear that you've been doing that as well, 354 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: but utilization rate is the second biggest reason, or second 355 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: biggest factor in determining your credit score. Now because of 356 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: those other lines of credit. Like you said, that thirty 357 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: four k is actually only sixty percent of your total 358 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: credit limit across all your credit cards, which is really 359 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: savvy to understand. That's because credit scoring models, when they 360 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: determine utilization rate, they're not just looking at the utilization 361 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: rate per individual card, but they're adding up the total 362 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: available limit across all your credit cards and then adding 363 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: up the total balance across all your cards, and that's 364 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: how they're getting to utilization rate. Okay, so you've already 365 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: proven by your own example the power and the positive 366 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: side of keeping credit cards open. What will happen if 367 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: you were to pay off this thirty four k and 368 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: then cut up that and get rid of and close 369 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: that thirty eight thousand dollars line of credit is that 370 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: it could make it more difficult for you to maintain 371 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: a low utilization rate in the future, right, so you 372 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: won't have that quote unquote. It's hard to call a 373 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: big fat credit limit a safety net because really it's 374 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: almost like it's like, I don't know, it's like putting 375 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: a for me as a as a person who struggles 376 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: with like eating and eating, you know, binge eating Sometimes 377 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: like It's like putting a big bag of potato chips 378 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: next to me after a long day of work and 379 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: kind of expecting me to not devour the entire thing 380 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: in five minutes. Right, So it's a tempting line of credit. 381 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, use me, I'm here. You can't afford it, Oh, 382 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: just put it on this thirty eight thousand dollars credit limit. 383 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: It's just it's thirty eight thousand dollars. What's a couple 384 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: thousand dollars? You know, So it's tempting you. But what's 385 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: crucial to me that you've said in your question is 386 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: that you're actually working on your money mindset and building 387 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: smarter habits so that you won't put things on credit 388 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: if you trust yourself, and only you can answer this, Okay, 389 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: credit queen, Only you can decide if you trust yourself 390 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: enough to keep that credit line open because you know 391 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: it'll help you with the utilization rate, and you know 392 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: that you know you'd like to have a longer credit 393 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: history because the length and age of your credit is 394 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: also a small but powerful factor in your overall credit score. 395 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: And you know that, and you're like, I'm going to 396 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: keep this open because it's actually benefiting me to have 397 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: it open. However, you know yourself very well, well, you 398 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: know how you racked up all this credit debt in 399 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: the first place. I know you say you're, you know, 400 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: putting some new mindsets in place and trying to you know, 401 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: get your spending under control and all of that. But 402 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: at the first sign that you feel tempted to start 403 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: using that line, you know, you may want to go 404 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: against what logic and reason says and actually close the card. 405 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: I have let myself credit cards close if I felt 406 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: like I was going to be tempted to use them, 407 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: and if I felt like I had enough of a 408 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: credit limit across other cards that yeah, it was going 409 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: to decrease my overall credit limit, but I still had 410 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: other cards that I could lean on, and I wasn't 411 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: going to be, you know, messing myself up too, too 412 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: terribly badly. So sometimes it's okay to let your credit 413 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: cards close. I'm just going to go out there and 414 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: say it, because conventional wisdom and logic and reasoning. This 415 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: is why they call it personal finance. You know, sure, 416 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: there's the right or quote unquote the right thing to 417 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: do and the logical thing to do, but you also 418 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: have to know your personality and your approach to money, 419 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: and what your triggers and your weaknesses are. This is 420 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: the reason why I don't keep big bags of chips 421 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: in my house. You know why, because I know myself 422 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: and all it takes is one bad day at work 423 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: or one argument with my partner, and it's just like 424 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: a bag of chip's gonna solve my problems, and I'm 425 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna feel like a sack of crap after, you know 426 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I know myself, right, I think 427 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: you should get to know yourself too. Now it could 428 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: be a case where you paid on the credit card, 429 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: and let's be clear, you haven't paid it off yet, 430 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: so let's not get too ahead of ourselves, like, just 431 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: focus on paying it down. But when you get to 432 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: the point where you've paid it down, then you can 433 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: kind of see yourself and you know, be real with 434 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: yourself and say do I need this credit line? Are 435 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: my other credit cards sufficient? Okay? Let me close it down. 436 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: So what you can expect if you were to close 437 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: it down is would you take a hit to your 438 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: credit potentially A couple of reasons why we just talked 439 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: about them, right, you are immediately decreasing your total available limit. Now, 440 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: the beauty of your situation is that those other credit 441 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: cards you have have a zero balance. So even if 442 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: you're going to close this card, your utilization rate should 443 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: still be zero, right, so you're not actually hurting yourself. 444 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: Where you might get dinged, and what you probably will 445 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: get dinged is your average age of credit if that 446 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: credit card is one of your older accounts. So you 447 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: can do a quick Actually, credit Karma has a cool 448 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: tool for this. You can actually do a credit simulate, 449 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: what's it called credit score a simulator, and you can 450 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: actually see with you r if you load your credit 451 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: accounts into there, you can see, well, what if I 452 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: close this one? What if I get a credit limit 453 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: decrease or increase, And you could actually see what the 454 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: effect could be to your score, and then you could see, okay, 455 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: maybe it's like twenty thirty points whatever if my average 456 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: age of credit is reduced by closing this card, but 457 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: your credit score will bounce back. It is not like 458 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: I said, It is not a like a stagnant sort 459 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: of score. It's always moving and changing and flowing. You know, 460 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: It's a living, breathing thing. And as Tiffany always says, 461 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: it's basically your g if you look back at all 462 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: your credit history and your you know history, personal finance 463 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: and loans and all that, it's a record you know 464 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: from your whole credit life. So as long as on 465 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: the whole you've been relatively on time, relatively you know, 466 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: good behavior, then your credit score should always come back. 467 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: It should bounce back. So in your case, it may 468 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: make sense for you to close that card and just 469 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: be done with it and just put it in the 470 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: past behind you, even if you take a temporary hit 471 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: to your credit score. You have to do what works 472 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: best for you. But honestly, this is like you're in 473 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: the beautiful position I think of kind of obsessing over 474 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: tiny details. But focus, focus, focus on paying that credit 475 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: card balance down because that's still thirty four k. You 476 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: paid down twenty k, and that is amazing. You are 477 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: a credit goddess, right and you have you are a 478 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: paydown queen. But let's focus on getting that thirty four 479 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: k paid down asp ACEP asap. So I wish you 480 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: the best of luck. Thank you so much for your 481 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: question to Brown Ambition. I wish you nothing but the best. 482 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: Please follow up, like let me know how the credit 483 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: card paydown is going. Let me know how you paid 484 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: off that first twenty k cause I love to support 485 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: y'all and love to share all your different strategies. But 486 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: congrats again. I think you're in a pretty good position 487 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: to even be thinking about after I paid on the 488 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: thirty four k. What am I gonna do? So keep 489 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: keep going, all right? This was such a fun episode. 490 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: Thank y'all for the questions again. Hit us up at 491 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: brownambitionpodcast dot com. Send us your questions through ig. We 492 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: are at Brian Ambison Podcast and I am Mandy Woodruff Santos. 493 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm at Mandy Muddy on Instagram and I cannot wait 494 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: to hear from you guys. See y'all next week. 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