WEBVTT - Ep. 167: Big announcement! 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.640 Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon, a production of 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:11.799 I Heart Radio. Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.360 I am your host, Shane Bacon, and don't normally do this, 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.960 we don't invite the guests right in, but uh, you know, 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.200 this whole episode is about myself and the guest, so 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.680 I figured why not introduced him right away and we'll 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:28.360 get going. Damon a Hack of the Golf Channel joining 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.400 me Shane Bacon of the Golf Channel. Is that is 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:33.920 that what we say here? Damon? I think the rumors 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.040 are true, but we're gonna be working together. It sounds 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:41.640 like a pretty darn suon. Yeah, announcement today, really exciting stuff. 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.040 Um really happy to be joining the NBC team in 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.040 the Golf Channel crew. I feel honored, I feel humbled, 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.800 all of those emotions that come when somebody reaches out 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.279 to you with interest. Is uh, is a part of 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.600 what's gone on the last few weeks, in the last 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.120 couple of months. But Damon, as I was talking to 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.040 the people that are our bosses and the people that 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.479 are the movers and shakers in and around NBC Sports 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.880 and Golf Channel, I was waiting around to see who 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.880 I would be working closely with, and I find out 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.800 about a week and half two weeks ago it's you, 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.640 which is like, you know, it's like opening the perfect 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.400 holiday gift and then walking outside wearing the jacket and 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.920 realizing that they also bought you a car. You know, 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.000 it's like this this I shouldn't be this lucky. This 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:31.920 is awesome. Well, I'll tell you what the feeling is. Mutual. Um. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.360 I was kind of left in the dark, not really 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.399 knowing what was gonna be happening with me in this 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.120 move in one who I'd be sitting next to, and 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.200 when I found out that it was gonna be Shane Bacon, Uh, 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.800 someone who I've respected from Afar, who I spent a 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.560 magical week with at at bandoned Dudes. And I'm sure 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.400 we'll get into that as the days, weeks and months 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:56.320 and maybe this podcast we're on. But Buddy, yours as 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.320 versatile and talented as anyone in the business. You love 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.200 this game much to anyone in the business, and that 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.520 means a lot just on its own. So to be 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.520 able to work with you and talk about this great 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.080 game was We're gonna do five days a week on 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.320 Golf Channel. I could not ask for anything better. Yeah, well, 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.359 the new show, just so people know, it's called Golf Today. 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.839 Obviously playing off NBC's Today Show success and the great 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.280 job they do over there, Golf Today is gonna be 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.520 a daily show. You and I are gonna be rocking 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.679 and the roll and I believe Wednesday through Sunday, Is 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.600 that right, Damon, That's exactly right. Wednesday through Sunday will 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:34.239 kind of set up that week's tournament and then really 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.360 every day set up every round and kind of get 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.200 inside the game and the stories. And we've kind of 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.280 talked about you know what, we what we hope the 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:45.720 show will be. I think it's gonna be unpredictable and 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.360 not really a formulaic type of show. But we're gonna 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.760 go where the where the tea leaves take us, and 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.239 where the stories take us, you know, inside what these 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.320 players are working on the best players in the world, 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.400 but also just the game as a whole. As you know, 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.440 we're lovers of this game. We play this game at 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.440 two completely different levels. By the way, one of us 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.560 is actually a very good player. I'll let your listeners 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.480 decide us think whom on us is really really good? 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.800 Who happens to just be passionate, loves it, but but 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:17.080 can barely get the ball around the golf course. But 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.480 I think all of those things combine our love of 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.880 covering the game, of talking about the game, of playing 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.760 the game, of interviewing the best players in the world, 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.480 and the coaches and the movers and shaskers and stakeholders 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.959 in this game, it's gonna be what I envisioned, a 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.960 one stop shopping for the golf for the golf fan. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.640 And I think it's gonna be an absolute blast really 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:45.440 seeing this show evolve into whatever eventually becomes. Yeah, definitely, 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.000 I was gonna ask you that I was gonna get 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.400 into it in a bit, but I figure, I mean, 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:49.960 I'll do it right now. Since you mentioned, I mean, 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.480 you joined the Golf Channel back in two thousand twelve, 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.920 and you know you have worked in a lot of 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.800 positions at the Golf Channel. How excited are you for 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.560 this opportunity to create eight a show? I mean, you 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:03.360 you were You've been a part of so many shows, 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.720 and I know you've been so influential and how those 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.440 shows go, but this really your your first chance to 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:11.880 kind of create from the ground up a new show. 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.200 With our producers and with all of our talented team 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.840 behind the scenes. But how excited it is that for you. 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.920 It's a huge honor. I don't take it lightly. It's 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.760 a it's a huge responsibility, uh, to really start something 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:30.320 fresh part of Morning Drive now. Since so thankful that 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.880 that Molly Solomon, the executive producer, brought me down. I 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.440 was living in New York and working for Sports Illustrated 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.680 and to have the chance to to make the move 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.800 to television and for her to trust me in my 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.320 background as a sports writer covering golf in the National 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.640 Football League for s I and the New York Times 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:52.280 and for news Day and with the Sacramento b and 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.839 taking this you know, ink stained wretch as it were, 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:59.040 this old newspaper guy and magazine guy and let them 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.320 talk and run his up on television has been quite 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:05.080 a joy and connected with viewers and being excited and 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.120 passionate about the game. And I want to take it 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.640 to the next level. I want to continue to build 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.960 relationships with our viewers and be transparent and and be 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.279 you know, authentic, and I know that you're you're built 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.680 the same way, and um, I think it's gonna be 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.880 a collaborative effort between us and our producers obviously, but 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.520 I think it's also a great chance to to build 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.360 on the chemistry I think we already have. I think 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.839 both of us a kind of quietly excited about, you know, 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.719 what this show could become and what a great honor 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.400 for both of us at Golf Channel is kind of 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.200 giving us the ball and say, hey, you know, you guys, 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.560 go with it and let's see where it goes. Yeah, 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.479 I had my we had our first meeting, official meeting, 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.080 I guess on Monday, as you guys are listening to 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.800 this on Tuesday or beyond, had our first official meeting 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.280 on Monday, and damon my wife and I and my 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.240 wife credit to her is an unbelievable rock star when 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:57.479 it comes to managing, you know, paperwork. And I would say, 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.359 all the tasks that I hate doing when it comes 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.360 to something huge like a move, my wife just does 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.479 them all. And I'm the guy that's like she, you know, 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.799 kind of dragging his feet, and she's given me the side. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.719 I like, hey, you need to you probably need to 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.719 box some stuff up today. But I'm watching during this meeting, 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.480 you know, the Women's open is wrapping up on a Monday, 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:17.480 and I have the iPad onto the side, as I 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.400 think everybody in the meeting had, because obviously we have 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.279 to keep one eye on on what's happening in the 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.800 golf world. And I couldn't help but feel like the 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.200 Women's Open was mirroring my life. They showed a replay 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.600 of Thursday. All the players are in shorts, and it's 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.599 this beautiful day in Houston. And come Sunday, Uh it 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.440 is it is this really, really nasty ear muff park 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.159 a jacket weather day. And and I brought up my 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.960 wife to say one thing We've both echoed throughout this 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.800 whole experiences. I am, you know, on cloud nine in 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.640 terms of the excitement level of the job part. But 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.400 we also have to move our lives from Arizona to Connecticut. 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.840 I couldn't help but look at this and go, it's 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.479 a little about what I'm gonna have to deal with. 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:01.120 I'm gonna go from short weather I'm wearing shorts right now, damon, 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.920 to the northeast. It's a little bit chillier there. You're 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.000 there right now? What are we? What are we? What 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:12.760 are we in uh expecting? As we encounter Connecticut in January. Oh, 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.480 I can tell you what you're expecting and what I'm 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.000 living with and dealing with right now is snow today. 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.960 Today was my first snow day in Westport, Connecticut was today, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:27.040 and it was upon me what degrees the real field 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.640 temperature they called real field temperature? You know what's a 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.800 real field temperature. I'm learning about that as well. I mean, buddy, 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.880 not a lot of golf courses are opening are shut down. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:40.000 I mean they're the really good clubs in places they 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.840 might have like an indoor facility where you can kind 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.920 of get a little toasty and hit some shots out 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.640 of like a three sided trailer or something. But buddy, 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.360 it's it's gonna be very hard to work on your 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.640 game year round. You have to really improvise and trying 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.120 to figure things out. And that's okay. I mean, we 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.160 are going to be busy. That that's the key is 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.480 We're gonna be so busy January, February March and beyond that. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.160 I'm not sure that we'll be missing really time on 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.640 the links. I think once uh, once we get away 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.160 from work, it's gonna be families and kiddos and as 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:14.920 focusing on that. But we have a positive only rule 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.080 in our household right now. So again with moving and 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.640 packing and you know, wrapping glasses and I one of 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.200 my jobs today was to wrap all our pictures and 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:28.040 that sticky you know safety whatever the hell of the 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.120 plastic is that they give us, but that was one 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.240 of my jobs today. And yeah, I'm still sitting there. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.360 I'm whistling, I'm enjoying, and I'm listening to a podcast. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.880 I'm trying to stay positive as I'm getting set to 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.040 where a few more jackets than we tend to do 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.760 here in Arizona. But I wanted to go through with you, um, 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.400 if you will, a few questions that people might have. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:49.400 I jotted down some questions that people might have for 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.240 us about our new show Golf today. Uh. Number one 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.679 question that I could see people asking, and so I'm 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.560 gonna present this to you is Damon and Shane. You know, 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.080 we we know you guys love golf, but there's not 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.760 an analyst on the show. How are you guys going 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.120 to dive deep into the golf? So I wanted to 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.440 present that to you first, Aim. I think it's a 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.720 great question. I think we'll have analysts on from time 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.199 to time, but not necessarily a regular analyst. I think 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.040 we use our powers of observation, our powers of reporting. 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.720 Both of us have you know, a pretty good role 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.240 of deex of people that we know inside the game, 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:28.360 from players and coaches. I'm not above texting a player, 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.800 texting a coach calling a coach calling a player. From 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:32.800 time to time, it'll be great to get some insight 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.520 from inside the ropes on a Wednesday or Thursday and 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.600 interview some players and get some players press conferences and 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.480 pull some quotes from from the internet, from social media, 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.679 from press conferences that we're able to break down and 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.080 talk about. I mean, we've both been covering this game 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.720 and loving this game for a long time, and I 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.320 think if there are things that we need to to 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.480 pull some different opinion, if we need a you know, 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.080 Aim and Lynch from Golf Weak to talk about a 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.520 story he wrote, or Brandon Shamblita to break down a 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:09.360 specific aspect of the footwork or the shafflene of a player. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.480 I'm sure it will be about bringing somebody on and 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.559 having them leaving their expertise. But I think both of us, 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.720 with our knowledge of the game, love of the game, uh, 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.520 we're not gonna be afraid to to take some pretty 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.640 big swings ourselves into the matters that are surrounding our 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.880 great game. Yeah, I I think it's it's knowing the 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.640 sport and it's explaining the sport with the knowledge that 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.120 is well beyond your abilities. I guess it's probably the 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:36.880 key way of doing that. You know, I give a 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.440 lot of credit to uh now, the No Dunk's Crew, 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.800 but they're previously the starters and Basketball Jones even before 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.120 that when I used to work with Jay Skee. Yeah 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:47.920 who sports back in the day. But you know, I 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.360 give a lot of credit to two groups of people 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:56.240 like that who started a show about basketball. And those 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.599 four guys on the set weren't professional basketball players and 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.520 didn't play professional basketball, but they were knowledgeable enough to 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.760 speak on the sport. They knew what to say and 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.400 how to say it. They never overstepped, you know, really 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.280 into that player world trying to talk of of maybe 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.360 the ins and outs of behind the scenes because they 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.520 didn't know that much about it. And I even think 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.760 in our sport, I mean, the No Laying Up guys 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.240 have done such a great job of establishing a group 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.640 of people that talk about golf and No golf, and 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:27.240 they have different personalities and you know, different experiences in 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.480 the sport, but they're able to talk on it because 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.480 they know enough about the players and the stats and 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.560 the history of those players at events, at tournaments, and 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.120 so really we've seen people do this before. I just 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.319 feel like on TV, you know, it maybe isn't the 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.120 normal thing to have to have a show without analyst. 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.200 But I think you and I are also two guys 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.440 that are okay with asking the questions. You know, we 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.319 don't have to see it, and actually we know everything. 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.760 I think that's a very important part of this is 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.520 asking the wise to the people that know the answer 0:11:55.559 --> 0:12:00.920 to our questions. Absolutely. I think at the basic level 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:05.240 for both of us were curious minds where reporters I 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:10.320 love asking questions, probing questions, questions that elicit answers and 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.160 responses where I can kind of stay out of the way, 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.280 and where I can learn and be educated and the 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:18.120 viewer can learn and be educated. And there's different different, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.320 you know, aspects and strengths that will bring to the 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.440 to the show. I mean, I've been to South Korea, 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.240 for example, I was thinking about al m Kim winning 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.920 uh this US open that we saw on a Monday 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.520 finish and I'm thinking, my god, I've been to South Korea. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:32.720 I might not be able to break down all the 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.040 aspects of her swing, but I I do know what 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:40.280 that country is like as a powerhouse golf nation that 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.920 has minor league you know, we're talking about the l 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.200 p g A over there. It's the k LPGA is televised, 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.719 and then there's minor league golf below that's televised, and 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.480 then the level below that is televised. And speaking of 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.240 levels they have, you know, you talk about top golf 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:59.000 and shot makers and all these you know, things that 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.560 are sprouting up here that that's been the way of 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.160 South Korean golf for decades and decades. They're dotted all 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.720 over Soul in different parts of South Korea, and it's 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:13.080 and it's no wonder that they're producing major championship winners 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:16.040 at such a high clip. So we'll be able to 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.840 figure out our way around this great game, as both 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.680 of us have done from Afar, and now we'll do 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.319 it side by side. We're gonna take a quick break 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:39.400 and be right back. David, this is more of a 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.720 question for you because you'll have obviously a better feel 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.000 for that now and and and especially over the last 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.000 few years of just working on it. But you know, 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.680 with Morning Drive going away and and and golf today, 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.560 you know, coming out in the start of two one, 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.800 what do you feel like will be similar or similar 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.520 to Morning Drive? What do you feel like will be 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.120 different to Morning Drive? With what you and I are 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.800 gonna do? I tell you it's been such a joy 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.640 for me, who a TV newbie back in twelve to 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.240 be able to work alongside you know, too many great 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.760 people to to count on Morning Drive and and to 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.640 be able to laugh and and have some fun. And 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:19.920 that's probably my biggest joy was collaborating with with people 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.040 on the show and having some great laughs with with 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.760 the Charlie Rhymers and and Gary Williams of the world, 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.720 and a more recent vantage of you know, Robert Dammer 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.040 and and LT and Hannah Whiteley and Page. It's just 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.880 been fun to to have a group that that you 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.520 wake up with every day and you're you know, you've 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.400 got the the your eyes are barely open when you're 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.120 walking into the office and you're you're trying to figure out, okay, 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.120 you know, what's this rundown? What it looks like and 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.800 then you you build a family. And I think that 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:52.040 chemistry is so important. And my favorite aspect of Morning 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.280 Drive was the chemistry that we built, and I think 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.600 that that's gonna be a big part of what makes 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.400 our show successful, Shane, is that that we have the 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.520 chemistry and the respect for one another, and the and 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.400 the idea of rowing in the same direction and not 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.080 being afraid to disagree if we do disagree, but also 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.240 having a healthy respect for one another. So I think 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.560 chemistry is hugely important and I imagine that will be 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.480 a big part of what we do. We interviewed a 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.640 lot of people on Morning Drive. Imagine we'll do that 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.360 as well. What we'll have the the cameras on the 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.880 ground as we did at times at Morning Drive. I'm 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.200 hoping one thing that's differences we have more cameras on 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.320 the ground for golf today, that we're able to sit 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.600 on players a little bit more and talk about what 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.280 they're working on, what are their joys and what are 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.120 their fears, and what are their you know, ceilings and 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.800 limitations in this game. And both of us have spent 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.560 enough time around these players, is you know, interviewees and 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:44.680 interviewers spending time with them after major championships or or 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.120 tour events and talking to them about what they're working 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.000 on and what they want to accomplish. So I'm just 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.880 hoping that we can convey our love of the game 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.320 and in talking to the viewers of golf channels, that 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.840 they know that, uh, you know, my energy is really 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.400 your energy is really I'm so excited to have the job. 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.640 I have to be able to talk about the game 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.200 that I love to collaborate with people on the air, 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.560 and I hope that that good feeling of chemistry and 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.960 collaboration continues, and I expect that it will. Yeah, I 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.440 mean it. It's interesting you bring up the chemistry part 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.200 of of Morning Drive and how much fun you had 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:21.000 working with that crew. You know, my first ever TV 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.600 opportunity back in two thousand and fourteen, Um, I went 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.480 into an office at one point with the Modra shot, 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.640 who you know I watched, you know, as a kid, 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.040 and and it was an awe of you know, everything 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:34.760 he did in and around the n B A and 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.120 uh and so I'm kind of in this in this 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.240 room with a mod Rashot. You know, You're like, oh 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.240 my god, is this guy gonna say to me, and um, 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.560 he told me. He said, you know, the most important 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:48.680 thing about television, especially a studio show, is chemistry, because 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.160 the show is only as good as the chemistry you 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.720 have with with your coworker, with your co host. And 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.280 I uh, I always took that and found that so interesting. 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.120 I've I've had opportunities on both sides where it's worked great, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.560 and I've had times where maybe it wasn't the most 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.920 amazing chemistry in the world. And every time that's been 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.200 the case, I always go back to that modershot moment 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.920 because it's so true what he told me. So that's 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.520 that is something I'm again going back to the fact 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.080 that I got the announcement, Hey, Damon and you were 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.879 doing this. I was like, well, this this is I'm 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.600 getting paid as as well, and this is like such 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.080 a bonus. I mean, the chemistry part checked the list, 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.640 which brings me to my next question, Damon. The next 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.760 question viewers might have, didn't you guys peak in ten? 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.960 Is the question, and it's it's a fair one to 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:37.879 bring up. It's a fair one to bring up, I wondered, 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.240 did Matt Jenella asked that question? Who get that texted 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.240 in or something? And we took down at the Uncle 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:50.000 Tony Invitational Abandoned Dudes, and that's where this relationship really started. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.320 I mean, both of us were kind of making our 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.480 way in the business before then, but we were we were, 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.760 you know, paired together, team together at Bandoned Dunes. And 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:02.160 this is of course a well known in golf circles match, 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.480 you know, as annual you know, hitting giggle, I guess 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.320 you call it, but it gets pretty serious there on 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.000 on the weekends as folks trying to bring home that title. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.600 There's a lot of revelry and laughs, you know. You know, 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:16.040 they've had it at Pinehurst, they've most you know, notably 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.040 had it more regularly had it at Bandoned Dunes. And 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.919 we went out there and Shane, of course, who's you know, 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:25.200 trying to qualify for for national championships and and competed 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.720 at at Pack twelve Powerhouse out in Arizona. And here 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.160 I am like new to the game for the most 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.280 part as a player, stuck in the high teams of 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.640 my handicap at we somehow well, I'll tell you from 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:41.040 my perspective, if Shane Bacon is your partner, uh and 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.280 I imagine this could be both in front of the 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.840 camera or when you're when you're you know, playing golf together, 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.520 it just frees you up to be your best. So 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.119 I'm playing alongside the big left to you see the 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.399 three hundred yards and somehow I'm able to put together 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.440 two or three rounds. In the eighties, a couple of eagles, 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:03.280 including on the third hole abandoned tray down, win three 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:07.080 for one. This bumps all around, and we took Matchella 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.720 out and that was really that was the haymaker. That 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.240 was like the big punch. And and and Janella and 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.840 his partner Tim, they never really recovered Shady and you 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.720 were there. You saw the look of doubt in their 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.159 eyes that they've been visited by by Nicholas and Palmer 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.800 in the Wryter Club. We took them down. I will 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:29.160 never forget the look on their face. So so Hack 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:31.720 makes three for one on a part five. Okay, makes 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.560 an eagle, gets a couple of pops, so he makes 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.560 a net one, which for those counting of homes good 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.680 on the card. That's a really good thing to do. 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.080 So the next hole is a tricky kind of difficult 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:46.240 part four. And then the next hole abandoned trails is 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.040 one of their signature short part three's on the entire 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.639 resort and you hit the flag, so you went three 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:56.000 for one and then hit the flag two holes later, 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.680 and they just they were looking at each other, they 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:00.800 were looking at us, they were look in the caddies. 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:02.680 I mean, they were looking at the deer that were 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.520 passing over behind the greens. You know, everything they could 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.720