WEBVTT - Momma Knows Best (with Wade Allain-Marcus) 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:07.280 It does seem similar to like around that time, like 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:09.400 a five six year old it was Christmas and I 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.960 like rolled up a napkin and put it, put the 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:14.440 end of it in the fire and like tried to 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:18.040 smoke it, and my mom like slapped it out of 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:21.680 my hand and she said, there's not even anything in 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:26.680 that ship. Like that was the important thing, Not that 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.880 I had tried to even smoked or whatever. It was 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.400 just like, you're so stupid, you didn't even put anything 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.880 in it. She's like, my man, you're not gonna feel nothing. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:47.640 What are you doing? My crown chips in your Mansquala 0:00:47.720 --> 0:01:03.040 bears are racists mostly money stuff. I can't tell me. Yep, yep, yep. 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.640 There it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:11.240 to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.880 podcast where we dive deep deep into the world of 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.640 black conspiracy theories and we finally worked to prove that 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.480 the real downfall of our fight for civil freedoms came 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:27.000 when we started letting activists get nice haircuts. Think about it, 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.000 no legendary freedom fighter had a decent faith to save 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:35.160 their lives. Martin Luther King Tresh Paul robeson tresh Met 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.959 Your Ever trash. Nelson Mandela had the exact same haircut 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.679 as Esther Roland Good Times, and that's how he was 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:45.320 able to sacrifice so much in the name of liberating 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.120 his people. These are the facts, ladies and gentlemen. I'm 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.840 just reporting at this point. I'm your host, Lenkston kerman Um, 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.680 I'm pleased to be here with you. I am please 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.080 this punch. I've never said that phrase out loud before, 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.559 but god damn it did it feel appropriate right now? 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.360 And you know who else is pleased this punch? I 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:10.160 have to imagine juice. He's pleased as a full juice 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.880 is my guest today. He's he's so cool, so funny, 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.320 so talented. You know him. You know him from all 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.000 kinds of ship. You know him from from Insecure, you 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.840 know him from from Snowfall, you know him from writing 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.000 on on Grownish, and most importantly, you know him from 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.160 a film on Netflix called French Dirty. He's amazing. Please 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:36.280 get up from my talented guests. Mr Wade Elaine market Man, 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.600 It's so good to be here. What a what an 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.800 intro and also just that that introduction song just really 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.400 gets you in the mood. You know, it's got the 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.799 vibe situation. But then we're talking about racist koalas and like, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.800 you know, all that stuff feels just right. Yeah, you 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.840 start accusing animals of being racist, and you're like, I'm ready, 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.480 I'm in it. You know it though, you know dogs 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.720 have that problem. Certain Oh, we've had a few episodes 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:06.480 where we've had to unpack the racist tendencies of certain 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.560 dogs and and the dog's owners frankly, but the dogs 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.600 themselves as well. And you're not wrong. There there's a 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.920 fair amount of evidence that dogs can be racist. Evidence, 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.560 actual evidence. I mean, yeah, well you see them, you 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:25.919 see them grountle it us. It doesn't take much o 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.519 their digging and sort of see the way they react, 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.600 and you're like, I guess it's motherfucker's racist. There it is. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:36.960 I I'm excited you're here because you came with a 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:42.160 conspiracy theory that I would say. It's why it's broad. 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.640 We've talked about sort of the full breath of it, 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.600 but it also has so much of sort of down 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.240 homeleess that I think many of our listeners are going 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.720 to be able to relate to. It really feels like 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.920 an at home kind of conspiracy theory, and it the 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.160 best way we could phrase that. You and I talked 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.520 ahead of time, but you said, my mama told me. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:11.280 Mama could make it better at home. Always. It's always 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.240 been like that. It really has well. And it's interesting 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.080 too because we're blending. Like, you know, my mom and 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:22.599 everybody from my mom's side is from New Orleans. You know, 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.760 when you go back to New Orleans, that's that that's 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.839 that earthy ship. That's that stuff where you're like, you 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:30.200 know what I mean, you haven't got to go out 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.240 and get it from white people or anybody really, because 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:38.400 we grow this ship or it'll be in the cabinet. Yeah, 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.159 you get it from the root. There's there's somewhere that 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.600 you get the medicinal things you need from. Yeah. They 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.159 got a little BlackBerry tree in the back and that 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:53.680 can you know that's magic? Yeah? Yeah, And so you 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.840 your mom is from New Orleans, she like from there 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.000 or is it just her people are from there? No, 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.200 she born to raise New Orleans. She looked over she 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.400 moved over here young like kind of part of that 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.679 right after her came Betsy. You know, there's there's gotta 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.080 be a hurricane and then the exodus, you know what 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.480 I mean, Like a came and then an exodus is 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.160 sort of the cyclical nature of what happens in New Orleans. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.920 And so she was definitely part of, you know, this 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.720 wave of Creoles from New Orleans to Los Angeles, because 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.320 by the way, there's there's a lot of there's a 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.039 lot of Creoles in l A Wait a minute, I 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:34.000 did not know that. I I think I've always assumed 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.599 that all the black people and and and Blackish people 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.440 in l A Are just, uh, they just mixed with 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.800 Mexican somehow. You know. That's the thing. That's the thing 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:47.359 with creoles, right, You might not know. They might just 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.760 be they might just be lurking out in those streets. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.839 And I mean, you know, nowadays it'll be like Creole 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.279 is black in America. But obviously there's a history of 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.880 like where where were they? Where were you? You know, 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.080 and just the complications of how that all was a 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.160 passing ship like that. Yeah, I mean, it is one 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:10.640 of the more frustrating things I imagine that if I 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.840 weren't American I would hate about America is that we 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:18.600 do dissolve everything down to like it's most basic answer. 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.719 It's like these people have like this rich history and 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.840 culture and experience and then we go, yeah, but you're 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.800 black dog and so crazy. But by the way, my 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.080 mom does that to me too, you know what I'm saying. Like, 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.880 there's just times where I've been like, like, people ask 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:40.320 what I am and I'll be like, I'm Creole and Romanian, 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.360 you know, my father's like Jewish Romanian or whatever, and 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.960 she'll just be like, you just sound like you're trying 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:50.640 to not sound black by like getting specific with that. 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.960 I'm like, that's absolutely not what I'm trying to do. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.159 And she'll be like, you know, you know what you are. 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:01.040 You know, so you and I'm a nick like I'm 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:06.080 I'm gone. Just a back and forth situation to drill 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:10.720 it in that very young situation of her being like, 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.680 don't go around and just be confusing about who you are. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:18.880 You're black. Yeah, I I feel very fortunate. I also 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.560 have a Jewish father, and in a didn't know that. 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:27.120 I didn't yeah, h yeah, I I in a different way. 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.680 My dad sat me down earlier early and was like, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.360 hey man, you're black, Like like, let's not play this 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.040 game where like you spend a bunch of time trying 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.800 to convince the world that this is more complicated than 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.960 it is. Like even if you you should think about 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.480 your history and sort of like all of like the 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.440 things that come with that, but as far as the 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.120 way the world is gonna see you and treat you, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:51.920 you are a black man and you need to be 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.280 aware of that and not sort of like skirting that 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.600 because of some you know, so fascinating and Pops had 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:02.240 that conversation with you. Yeah, And I feel very grateful 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.680 that he was someone that had that conversation with me, 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.320 because I feel like had it come from my mom, 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.600 it would have felt like she was trying to sway 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.920 me in a way, you know, in her direction, as 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.560 whereas coming from my dad, it's like, oh no, this 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.600 is just the way it is, and I need to 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.640 be aware of that. That is a beautiful thing. That's 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.840 a beautiful thing. Yeah. I feel like my dad was 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:27.440 definitely aware of it, but he he more was just 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:28.960 like he would I feel like he was a little 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.560 quieter about it and was like, I know she's gonna 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.040 be crazy for him out there, but like, you know, 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:35.880 I don't know how to talk to him about it. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.640 So then my mom would sup in and she'd be 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.840 like you again, and don't let anybody or no whatever, 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:46.320 that's what your situation is. Yeah, I think it's so 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.680 funny because I definitely can see, even as like a 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:55.000 father to a white father to a black child, how 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:59.280 complicated that probably must feel to be like yo, despite 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.200 you being as me, what you got on the other 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.920 side of that half sort of supersedes a lot of 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.320 what my experience and and sort of culture is bringing 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.480 to the table in this way. Right, absolutely, And but 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.160 it is interesting too, and and then I know we'll 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.360 get to these conspiracy theories of black mama's but just 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:23.240 because we're here and also Jewish, keep the rample going 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.120 back Jewish father. Well, the Jewish father and the black 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.400 mother is a specific one, you know, because I feel like, 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.400 to be honest, a lot of the time it is 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.920 like a black father and a and a white mother, 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:36.679 you know, or or not a lot of the time. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.240 But most of the time when I encounter mix people, 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.720 that's the mix. I think that me a more common mix. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.760 And I would argue, and this is a controversial take 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.920 that not a lot of people like I think it's 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.400 the worst mix. I think that's the I think that's 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.280 the one that makes you weird. I think you want 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.360 is a black mama. That's the one that saves you, 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.360 you know what, crazy too because like I also do 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:03.520 feel like the black mama, white white white daddy, we 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:08.520 kind of come out looking better on the side of town, 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.040 you know what I mean, Like that's the right type 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:14.760 of swirl. So not not just not to hate on y'all, 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.520 but I do have to say this is the right way. Yeah, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:22.400 you fucked up anybody who. But also the interesting thing 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.120 is just with Jewish in general, right, like there is 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.520 a there is a sense of oppression that they probably 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.360 went through, you know what I mean, Like being Jewish. 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.800 It's not like it's like some waspy ship that we 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.760 have on the other side, there's some you know, we 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.320 were all on the same sign together with dogs, you 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.640 know what, not being led out of Yeah, and at 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.480 some point the Jews and the dogs got taken off 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:48.800 that sign and it was just niggas, but just niggas. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.760 But no, I do think in that way it at 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:58.160 least allows for a little cross pollination in the ways 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:02.360 that we talk about identity and culture in this country. 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:06.320 Right is having parents who at least can relate on 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.480 some level with that experience, as opposed to, like you said, 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.520 if it's if it's like some rich, waspy family and 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.080 then a black sort of like New Orleans type vibe, 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.080 you're not gonna have a bunch to to really connect 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.160 on until they can't, until it's like, oh wait, we 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.680 are in America, and this does all of a sudden 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.400 get super binary, and it's just like now, all of 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.960 a sudden, we don't understand each other at all. At 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:36.040 least that's what happened in my family. I got you well, okay, 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.200 you hinted at it. Tell me a little bit more 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.800 about the specifics that we sort of lived in with 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:47.360 with this very sort of sexy general conspiracy theory. Well, 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:51.160 the most yeah, and to get super specific, the most 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:55.120 kind of visceral image I had is like of being 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.800 super young. This is me like five six years old 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:03.080 or whatever, having a a mcbug and I'm just going 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:08.000 to town in the toilet puking, right, and then it's 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.480 like you're throwing up so much you can't really see 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.239 you know what I mean. It's just the stream and sounds, 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:18.240 you know, like it's just a blur of sound and movement, 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.280 and then all of a sudden, there's this image of 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:26.000 this dark liquid in a small glass and I just 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:30.560 hear my mother's voice being like, drink this, and and 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.240 it just gets kind of put in front of me 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.880 and I'm like what is and she's like, just drink it. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.280 And there's there's an aroma to it. I don't really 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.200 know what liquor smells like, you know, and then say 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.959 grab it up, throw it back, and all of a 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.800 sudden it's the most burn like, it's the burning ist, 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:51.960 smokingest thing that I've encountered at that stage of my 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.480 five six year old life. And it's whiskey, and it's whiskey, 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.199 you know, and you know, it pretty much gets puked 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:03.640 up immediately, but probably twenty minutes later like I'm I'm 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:08.199 not doing I'm not throwing up anymore, kind of settled, 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.680 and and that's really like the sort of I guess 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:17.320 the beginnings of being like she has all these different 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.839 things that she can point to that are just really 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.600 accessible and around the house, like I mean, whiskey just 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:27.000 being right there, but they too where it's like this 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.800 will fix you in a way that other things, you 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:35.040 know that robotestin or whatever might not or modern medicine 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.079 can't do what Jim Beam has been doing for us 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:44.440 for generations exactly. So your mom is very much a 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.920 person who and I feel like this is this is 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.960 probably on the cusp of homeopathic, let's say, is somebody 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.000 who leans towards at least trying the things that are 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.360 are local and within reach as opposed to taking you 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.080 to a doctor or some sort of like pharmacy to 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.160 solve your problems. Absolutely, and by the way she was 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:10.199 like she was also on like organic foods before organic 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.760 foods was really you know, and like like growing up 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.280 in l A, like before it was Whole Foods, it 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:20.640 was this place called Mrs Guches. Whoa that's a problematic name, 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:28.200 Mr Mr Yeah, Mrs Guches was the one who you know, 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.960 she was. I mean, I don't know if there really 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:36.080 wasn't Mrs Gouch, but there probably was Mrsuch but the 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.360 Mrs Gooch got bought up by Whole Foods. But she 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.720 was the one who had all the organic foods. And 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.240 she would, you know, she would be like, this is 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.280 what you have to eat if you want to live forever. 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:50.800 Ship it always had eat these carrots if you want to, 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:55.040 you know, have better eyesight. Yeah, I would be like, okay, 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:59.640 well then I'm gonna eat these carrots up because I'm squinting. Yeah, 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.840 like to see better. I'll say, I'll follow your carrot dreams. 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.760 I can do that. Well, let me ask you this, 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:11.000 how much of this have you then carried into your 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.480 own life? Are you a person who who continues to 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:18.880 sort of live with like these homeopathic tendencies? Are you? Like, Nah, 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.680 I did it, the carrots didn't work. I still wear glasses. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.200 Fuck it, I'm I'm gonna go eat McDonald's. I do 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:28.240 wear glasses. But it's it's in, it's in me, you know. 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:34.520 Like I'm absolutely still following the homeopathic training. I mean 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.640 I try not to be like, nah, fuck modern medicine, 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.240 like I'm gonna just go it on my own out here. 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.640 But but no, but I do. I do absolutely believe 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.240 that like there are the things in nature and the 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.880 things and like things that we didn't think like because 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.360 it started earlier, like with Grandma with like baking soda, 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:59.360 clearing your throat, you know, or or like toothpaste. When 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.200 I got a little bit odor, My Grandma would be 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:05.840 like put toothpaste on your pimple. There there's nothing better, No, 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.320 like pimple cream is gonna be better for you than 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:13.760 just a little dollarp of toothpaste. I will say that 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:17.040 that to that point, I felt a type of and 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:18.960 I don't know how you felt when these things sort 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.160 of got presented to you, but I felt a type 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.840 of relief when I found out that that was at 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.160 least an option, because then it wasn't there. There was 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.480 less of like this shame that I had to carry in, like, oh, 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.760 I gotta solve this problem of how to get these 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.400 pimples off my face. It's like, all right, I got 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.760 what's needed right at hand, and I just need to 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.560 figure out how to apply it the way that's gonna 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.200 make it so that I'm you know, not ugly anymore, 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.640 absolutely exactly, and and just all the different stuff, like 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.920 you know, just it's all it's it goes back to you. 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.640 You got everything you need, you know what I mean, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.120 Like you always have everything you need in the cabinet, 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.960 in the garden or whatever, as long as you can, 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.800 you know, as long as you know how to how 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:05.600 to put those things together in the right way, and 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.720 you know, where they go, like toothpaste might not only 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.800 go on team that like that. You just gotta open 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.080 up your mind to what different things you gotta do. 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.360 You can go everybody right now should just go look 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.639 into their cabinet and see different ship and be like 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:21.080 what else could this be used? Yeah, open open your 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.800 crunchy third eye and you figure out how you can 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.959 apply these things in a in a more functional way. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:32.600 And know that it probably came as like you know, 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:37.719 from Africa on the on the Juju train, you know, 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.920 like they were doing like juju and that then all 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.840 of a sudden became like, okay, we can now we 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:47.040 can now put this into a whole other situation. Yeah. 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:52.359 Well that's what makes it so fascinating, especially because you 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.639 you're sort of talking about your New Orleans roots and 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.440 and your your family's New Orleans roots. Here is that 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.480 so many of these things I feel like they were 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.960 just sort of made up by a lady, you know 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:06.879 what I mean, where it's just like a lady was like, 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.280 give the baby some whiskey, see what happens. But it 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.280 is to your point, much more rooted in like a 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:16.760 real history, where like I'm sure whatever is in whiskey 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.159 at some point was being used to settle stomachs and 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.959 cure colds. And then at some point we didn't have 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.720 that exact medicine or roots or whatever the funk it was, 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.119 and so we found it in whiskey again and we're like, 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.480 fun it, give the baby some some jamison and let's 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.080 see what happens. Well, and you know, and that stuff 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.520 has been proven a lot of the times. And it's 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.760 crazy because you don't you don't want to just only 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.119 rely on this stuff. But you think about like even 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.159 you know, we both we both got young babies like 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.720 breast milk and ship. You know, for a while they 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.400 were basically like, you're not getting everything you need from 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.360 breast milk. You need to take this formula. And that 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.280 was a crazy thing to be pushing on women, to 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.359 be like, no, this form love is going to be 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:05.840 better for your child because of whatever the hell they said. 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.760 Where it's like mom's got everything up in them, up 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:13.800 in them, up in them titties. You just let it flow, 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.120 let it flow into the baby's mouth and they will 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:21.240 be taken care of. So it's especially when you think 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:24.680 about where in the middle of middle I guess it 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.960 is a tough word at this point, but we are 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:32.399 still facing down a pandemic, a global pandemic, whether whether 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.720 we want to deal with it or not. And and 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:38.359 one of the things that we discovered was that, you know, 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:42.920 breastfeeding is an option for being able to to protect 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:47.400 our daughter, protect children in general from the potential you know, 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:51.280 risks of COVID that like, because my wife gets vaccinated, 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.719 breast milk does allow for some transference of like whatever 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.800 antibodies the baby might need to be able to be 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.479 a little more safe in the face of you know, 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:06.200 whatever this virus is. Absolutely but and that's what's crazy though, 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:10.439 because then on the flip side is like people, you know, 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:14.280 people will take like our own immunity or whatever to 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.560 this other degree. Like all the things that we're talking 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.920 about can also be used in a way that's like 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.000 we don't even need the vaccination, Like what's the point 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:27.639 of having that stuff? And that's that's when all this 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.880 stuff gets tricky and sort of like what is the conspiracy? 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.879 Is the conspiracy that like we should be listening to 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:38.080 like our mothers doing, you know, grabbing stuff from the 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:42.240 backyard and you repurposing other things in the cabinet for 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:44.840 our own benefit that we already have, or is the 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.320 conspiracy that like none of that ship works and we 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:51.760 need to rely on you know, vaccines, what it just gets. 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.280 It's all like you know, it goes to one extreme 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:58.919 or the other when you're trying. I think what I 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.439 think to your point the dangerous that we're in a 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:05.120 space where people feel like they exclusively have to pick 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.840 a side at all times. They have to go like, yo, 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:12.960 I'm either completely a homeopathic person who who I don't 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:16.520 need medicine because push ups will cure my cancer, or 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.280 I am a person who is on the other side 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.720 of it, where it's like I refuse to to eat 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:25.000 a vegetable, but pray to God you give me every 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:29.199 shot in and sort of like injection that science advocates for. 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.280 And it's probably that we should all be meeting somewhere 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.800 in the middle where it's like, no, try all the 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.240 things that are in your cabinet, but if them ships 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.879 ain't working, go see somebody, bro. Yeah, go get it 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:44.560 checked out. YEA. What I mean, like, you definitely can't 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:48.720 just put like calcum powder on your balls if your 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:52.520 balls are like swollen beyond belief. You know, yeah, that's 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:54.879 not gonna do that for you. I've never had my 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.240 balls get swollen beyond belief, but I just know it. 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.919 It sounds like a personal story that you're trying to 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:05.359 make into a very general one. And a friend told 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:10.200 me recently that their balls really swelled up. No, it's 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:14.719 true though, it absolutely is true, and it's you know, 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.639 it's And that's the thing with conspiracy theories in general. Right, 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:19.720 I'm sure you've had this conversation a lot of the time, 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:23.520 which is like, yeah, of course a piece of this 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:27.199 ship is true, you know, like there's always gonna be 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:29.840 that little particle of it that's like, yeah, I'm not 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:34.120 debating that part. It's the whole thing around it that 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.320 now has gotten blown up to this crazy degree that 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:39.720 makes me be like, how did it go from this 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:44.680 to that? Yeah? I talked about this before on the podcast, 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.720 and in a weird way, it has now circled back 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:51.840 where to me, the most dangerous part of when the 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:55.640 pandemic really was at it's it's like height, was when 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:59.760 we were still arguing about where the virus came from. 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.199 Like it was that early period where it was truly 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:06.320 us just blaming Chinese people for eating bats and claiming 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.240 that you know, they had spilled a violin Wuhan and 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:12.600 that had somehow like exploded across the world. And I 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:16.000 don't know what caused the pandemic. There's probably a fair 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:19.160 amount of evidence that it was naturally born, and then 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:23.080