1
00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,280
Speaker 1: It does seem similar to like around that time, like

2
00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,400
Speaker 1: a five six year old it was Christmas and I

3
00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,960
Speaker 1: like rolled up a napkin and put it, put the

4
00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,440
Speaker 1: end of it in the fire and like tried to

5
00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,040
Speaker 1: smoke it, and my mom like slapped it out of

6
00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,680
Speaker 1: my hand and she said, there's not even anything in

7
00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,680
Speaker 1: that ship. Like that was the important thing, Not that

8
00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,880
Speaker 1: I had tried to even smoked or whatever. It was

9
00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,400
Speaker 1: just like, you're so stupid, you didn't even put anything

10
00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,880
Speaker 1: in it. She's like, my man, you're not gonna feel nothing.

11
00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:47,640
Speaker 1: What are you doing? My crown chips in your Mansquala

12
00:00:47,720 --> 00:01:03,040
Speaker 1: bears are racists mostly money stuff. I can't tell me. Yep, yep, yep.

13
00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,640
Speaker 1: There it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome

14
00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,240
Speaker 1: to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the

15
00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,880
Speaker 1: podcast where we dive deep deep into the world of

16
00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,640
Speaker 1: black conspiracy theories and we finally worked to prove that

17
00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,480
Speaker 1: the real downfall of our fight for civil freedoms came

18
00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,000
Speaker 1: when we started letting activists get nice haircuts. Think about it,

19
00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,000
Speaker 1: no legendary freedom fighter had a decent faith to save

20
00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:35,160
Speaker 1: their lives. Martin Luther King Tresh Paul robeson tresh Met

21
00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,959
Speaker 1: Your Ever trash. Nelson Mandela had the exact same haircut

22
00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,679
Speaker 1: as Esther Roland Good Times, and that's how he was

23
00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,320
Speaker 1: able to sacrifice so much in the name of liberating

24
00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,120
Speaker 1: his people. These are the facts, ladies and gentlemen. I'm

25
00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,840
Speaker 1: just reporting at this point. I'm your host, Lenkston kerman Um,

26
00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm pleased to be here with you. I am please

27
00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,080
Speaker 1: this punch. I've never said that phrase out loud before,

28
00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,559
Speaker 1: but god damn it did it feel appropriate right now?

29
00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,360
Speaker 1: And you know who else is pleased this punch? I

30
00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:10,160
Speaker 1: have to imagine juice. He's pleased as a full juice

31
00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,880
Speaker 1: is my guest today. He's he's so cool, so funny,

32
00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,320
Speaker 1: so talented. You know him. You know him from all

33
00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,000
Speaker 1: kinds of ship. You know him from from Insecure, you

34
00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,840
Speaker 1: know him from from Snowfall, you know him from writing

35
00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,000
Speaker 1: on on Grownish, and most importantly, you know him from

36
00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,160
Speaker 1: a film on Netflix called French Dirty. He's amazing. Please

37
00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:36,280
Speaker 1: get up from my talented guests. Mr Wade Elaine market Man,

38
00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,600
Speaker 1: It's so good to be here. What a what an

39
00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,800
Speaker 1: intro and also just that that introduction song just really

40
00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,400
Speaker 1: gets you in the mood. You know, it's got the

41
00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,799
Speaker 1: vibe situation. But then we're talking about racist koalas and like,

42
00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, all that stuff feels just right. Yeah, you

43
00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,840
Speaker 1: start accusing animals of being racist, and you're like, I'm ready,

44
00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm in it. You know it though, you know dogs

45
00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,720
Speaker 1: have that problem. Certain Oh, we've had a few episodes

46
00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,480
Speaker 1: where we've had to unpack the racist tendencies of certain

47
00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,560
Speaker 1: dogs and and the dog's owners frankly, but the dogs

48
00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,600
Speaker 1: themselves as well. And you're not wrong. There there's a

49
00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,920
Speaker 1: fair amount of evidence that dogs can be racist. Evidence,

50
00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,560
Speaker 1: actual evidence. I mean, yeah, well you see them, you

51
00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:25,919
Speaker 1: see them grountle it us. It doesn't take much o

52
00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,519
Speaker 1: their digging and sort of see the way they react,

53
00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,600
Speaker 1: and you're like, I guess it's motherfucker's racist. There it is.

54
00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,960
Speaker 1: I I'm excited you're here because you came with a

55
00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:42,160
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that I would say. It's why it's broad.

56
00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,640
Speaker 1: We've talked about sort of the full breath of it,

57
00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,600
Speaker 1: but it also has so much of sort of down

58
00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,240
Speaker 1: homeleess that I think many of our listeners are going

59
00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,720
Speaker 1: to be able to relate to. It really feels like

60
00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,920
Speaker 1: an at home kind of conspiracy theory, and it the

61
00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,160
Speaker 1: best way we could phrase that. You and I talked

62
00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,520
Speaker 1: ahead of time, but you said, my mama told me.

63
00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:11,280
Speaker 1: Mama could make it better at home. Always. It's always

64
00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,240
Speaker 1: been like that. It really has well. And it's interesting

65
00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,080
Speaker 1: too because we're blending. Like, you know, my mom and

66
00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:22,599
Speaker 1: everybody from my mom's side is from New Orleans. You know,

67
00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,760
Speaker 1: when you go back to New Orleans, that's that that's

68
00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,839
Speaker 1: that earthy ship. That's that stuff where you're like, you

69
00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you haven't got to go out

70
00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,240
Speaker 1: and get it from white people or anybody really, because

71
00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,400
Speaker 1: we grow this ship or it'll be in the cabinet. Yeah,

72
00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,159
Speaker 1: you get it from the root. There's there's somewhere that

73
00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,600
Speaker 1: you get the medicinal things you need from. Yeah. They

74
00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,159
Speaker 1: got a little BlackBerry tree in the back and that

75
00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,680
Speaker 1: can you know that's magic? Yeah? Yeah, And so you

76
00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,840
Speaker 1: your mom is from New Orleans, she like from there

77
00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,000
Speaker 1: or is it just her people are from there? No,

78
00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,200
Speaker 1: she born to raise New Orleans. She looked over she

79
00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,400
Speaker 1: moved over here young like kind of part of that

80
00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,679
Speaker 1: right after her came Betsy. You know, there's there's gotta

81
00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,080
Speaker 1: be a hurricane and then the exodus, you know what

82
00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Like a came and then an exodus is

83
00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,160
Speaker 1: sort of the cyclical nature of what happens in New Orleans.

84
00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,920
Speaker 1: And so she was definitely part of, you know, this

85
00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,720
Speaker 1: wave of Creoles from New Orleans to Los Angeles, because

86
00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,320
Speaker 1: by the way, there's there's a lot of there's a

87
00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,039
Speaker 1: lot of Creoles in l A Wait a minute, I

88
00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,000
Speaker 1: did not know that. I I think I've always assumed

89
00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,599
Speaker 1: that all the black people and and and Blackish people

90
00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,440
Speaker 1: in l A Are just, uh, they just mixed with

91
00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,800
Speaker 1: Mexican somehow. You know. That's the thing. That's the thing

92
00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,359
Speaker 1: with creoles, right, You might not know. They might just

93
00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,760
Speaker 1: be they might just be lurking out in those streets.

94
00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,839
Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, nowadays it'll be like Creole

95
00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,279
Speaker 1: is black in America. But obviously there's a history of

96
00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,880
Speaker 1: like where where were they? Where were you? You know,

97
00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,080
Speaker 1: and just the complications of how that all was a

98
00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,160
Speaker 1: passing ship like that. Yeah, I mean, it is one

99
00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,640
Speaker 1: of the more frustrating things I imagine that if I

100
00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,840
Speaker 1: weren't American I would hate about America is that we

101
00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,600
Speaker 1: do dissolve everything down to like it's most basic answer.

102
00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,719
Speaker 1: It's like these people have like this rich history and

103
00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,840
Speaker 1: culture and experience and then we go, yeah, but you're

104
00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,800
Speaker 1: black dog and so crazy. But by the way, my

105
00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,080
Speaker 1: mom does that to me too, you know what I'm saying. Like,

106
00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,880
Speaker 1: there's just times where I've been like, like, people ask

107
00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:40,320
Speaker 1: what I am and I'll be like, I'm Creole and Romanian,

108
00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, my father's like Jewish Romanian or whatever, and

109
00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,960
Speaker 1: she'll just be like, you just sound like you're trying

110
00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,640
Speaker 1: to not sound black by like getting specific with that.

111
00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's absolutely not what I'm trying to do.

112
00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,159
Speaker 1: And she'll be like, you know, you know what you are.

113
00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,040
Speaker 1: You know, so you and I'm a nick like I'm

114
00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm gone. Just a back and forth situation to drill

115
00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,720
Speaker 1: it in that very young situation of her being like,

116
00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,680
Speaker 1: don't go around and just be confusing about who you are.

117
00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,880
Speaker 1: You're black. Yeah, I I feel very fortunate. I also

118
00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,560
Speaker 1: have a Jewish father, and in a didn't know that.

119
00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,120
Speaker 1: I didn't yeah, h yeah, I I in a different way.

120
00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,680
Speaker 1: My dad sat me down earlier early and was like,

121
00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,360
Speaker 1: hey man, you're black, Like like, let's not play this

122
00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,040
Speaker 1: game where like you spend a bunch of time trying

123
00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,800
Speaker 1: to convince the world that this is more complicated than

124
00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,960
Speaker 1: it is. Like even if you you should think about

125
00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,480
Speaker 1: your history and sort of like all of like the

126
00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,440
Speaker 1: things that come with that, but as far as the

127
00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,120
Speaker 1: way the world is gonna see you and treat you,

128
00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,920
Speaker 1: you are a black man and you need to be

129
00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,280
Speaker 1: aware of that and not sort of like skirting that

130
00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,600
Speaker 1: because of some you know, so fascinating and Pops had

131
00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:02,240
Speaker 1: that conversation with you. Yeah, And I feel very grateful

132
00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,680
Speaker 1: that he was someone that had that conversation with me,

133
00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,320
Speaker 1: because I feel like had it come from my mom,

134
00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,600
Speaker 1: it would have felt like she was trying to sway

135
00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,920
Speaker 1: me in a way, you know, in her direction, as

136
00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,560
Speaker 1: whereas coming from my dad, it's like, oh no, this

137
00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,600
Speaker 1: is just the way it is, and I need to

138
00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,640
Speaker 1: be aware of that. That is a beautiful thing. That's

139
00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,840
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. Yeah. I feel like my dad was

140
00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,440
Speaker 1: definitely aware of it, but he he more was just

141
00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,960
Speaker 1: like he would I feel like he was a little

142
00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,560
Speaker 1: quieter about it and was like, I know she's gonna

143
00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,040
Speaker 1: be crazy for him out there, but like, you know,

144
00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how to talk to him about it.

145
00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,640
Speaker 1: So then my mom would sup in and she'd be

146
00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,840
Speaker 1: like you again, and don't let anybody or no whatever,

147
00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,320
Speaker 1: that's what your situation is. Yeah, I think it's so

148
00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,680
Speaker 1: funny because I definitely can see, even as like a

149
00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,000
Speaker 1: father to a white father to a black child, how

150
00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,280
Speaker 1: complicated that probably must feel to be like yo, despite

151
00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,200
Speaker 1: you being as me, what you got on the other

152
00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,920
Speaker 1: side of that half sort of supersedes a lot of

153
00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,320
Speaker 1: what my experience and and sort of culture is bringing

154
00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,480
Speaker 1: to the table in this way. Right, absolutely, And but

155
00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,160
Speaker 1: it is interesting too, and and then I know we'll

156
00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,360
Speaker 1: get to these conspiracy theories of black mama's but just

157
00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,240
Speaker 1: because we're here and also Jewish, keep the rample going

158
00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,120
Speaker 1: back Jewish father. Well, the Jewish father and the black

159
00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,400
Speaker 1: mother is a specific one, you know, because I feel like,

160
00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,400
Speaker 1: to be honest, a lot of the time it is

161
00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,920
Speaker 1: like a black father and a and a white mother,

162
00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,679
Speaker 1: you know, or or not a lot of the time.

163
00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,240
Speaker 1: But most of the time when I encounter mix people,

164
00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,720
Speaker 1: that's the mix. I think that me a more common mix.

165
00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,760
Speaker 1: And I would argue, and this is a controversial take

166
00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,920
Speaker 1: that not a lot of people like I think it's

167
00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,400
Speaker 1: the worst mix. I think that's the I think that's

168
00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,280
Speaker 1: the one that makes you weird. I think you want

169
00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,360
Speaker 1: is a black mama. That's the one that saves you,

170
00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,360
Speaker 1: you know what, crazy too because like I also do

171
00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,520
Speaker 1: feel like the black mama, white white white daddy, we

172
00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:08,520
Speaker 1: kind of come out looking better on the side of town,

173
00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that's the right type

174
00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,760
Speaker 1: of swirl. So not not just not to hate on y'all,

175
00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,520
Speaker 1: but I do have to say this is the right way. Yeah,

176
00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,400
Speaker 1: you fucked up anybody who. But also the interesting thing

177
00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,120
Speaker 1: is just with Jewish in general, right, like there is

178
00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,520
Speaker 1: a there is a sense of oppression that they probably

179
00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,360
Speaker 1: went through, you know what I mean, Like being Jewish.

180
00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,800
Speaker 1: It's not like it's like some waspy ship that we

181
00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,760
Speaker 1: have on the other side, there's some you know, we

182
00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,320
Speaker 1: were all on the same sign together with dogs, you

183
00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,640
Speaker 1: know what, not being led out of Yeah, and at

184
00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,480
Speaker 1: some point the Jews and the dogs got taken off

185
00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,800
Speaker 1: that sign and it was just niggas, but just niggas.

186
00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,760
Speaker 1: But no, I do think in that way it at

187
00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,160
Speaker 1: least allows for a little cross pollination in the ways

188
00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,360
Speaker 1: that we talk about identity and culture in this country.

189
00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,320
Speaker 1: Right is having parents who at least can relate on

190
00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,480
Speaker 1: some level with that experience, as opposed to, like you said,

191
00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,520
Speaker 1: if it's if it's like some rich, waspy family and

192
00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,080
Speaker 1: then a black sort of like New Orleans type vibe,

193
00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,080
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a bunch to to really connect

194
00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,160
Speaker 1: on until they can't, until it's like, oh wait, we

195
00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,680
Speaker 1: are in America, and this does all of a sudden

196
00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,400
Speaker 1: get super binary, and it's just like now, all of

197
00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, we don't understand each other at all. At

198
00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:36,040
Speaker 1: least that's what happened in my family. I got you well, okay,

199
00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,200
Speaker 1: you hinted at it. Tell me a little bit more

200
00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,800
Speaker 1: about the specifics that we sort of lived in with

201
00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,360
Speaker 1: with this very sort of sexy general conspiracy theory. Well,

202
00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,160
Speaker 1: the most yeah, and to get super specific, the most

203
00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,120
Speaker 1: kind of visceral image I had is like of being

204
00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,800
Speaker 1: super young. This is me like five six years old

205
00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,080
Speaker 1: or whatever, having a a mcbug and I'm just going

206
00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:08,000
Speaker 1: to town in the toilet puking, right, and then it's

207
00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,480
Speaker 1: like you're throwing up so much you can't really see

208
00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just the stream and sounds,

209
00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, like it's just a blur of sound and movement,

210
00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,280
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, there's this image of

211
00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:26,000
Speaker 1: this dark liquid in a small glass and I just

212
00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,560
Speaker 1: hear my mother's voice being like, drink this, and and

213
00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,240
Speaker 1: it just gets kind of put in front of me

214
00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like what is and she's like, just drink it.

215
00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,280
Speaker 1: And there's there's an aroma to it. I don't really

216
00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,200
Speaker 1: know what liquor smells like, you know, and then say

217
00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,959
Speaker 1: grab it up, throw it back, and all of a

218
00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,800
Speaker 1: sudden it's the most burn like, it's the burning ist,

219
00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,960
Speaker 1: smokingest thing that I've encountered at that stage of my

220
00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,480
Speaker 1: five six year old life. And it's whiskey, and it's whiskey,

221
00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,199
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, it pretty much gets puked

222
00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,640
Speaker 1: up immediately, but probably twenty minutes later like I'm I'm

223
00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:08,199
Speaker 1: not doing I'm not throwing up anymore, kind of settled,

224
00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,680
Speaker 1: and and that's really like the sort of I guess

225
00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,320
Speaker 1: the beginnings of being like she has all these different

226
00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,839
Speaker 1: things that she can point to that are just really

227
00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,600
Speaker 1: accessible and around the house, like I mean, whiskey just

228
00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,000
Speaker 1: being right there, but they too where it's like this

229
00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,800
Speaker 1: will fix you in a way that other things, you

230
00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,040
Speaker 1: know that robotestin or whatever might not or modern medicine

231
00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,079
Speaker 1: can't do what Jim Beam has been doing for us

232
00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:44,440
Speaker 1: for generations exactly. So your mom is very much a

233
00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,920
Speaker 1: person who and I feel like this is this is

234
00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,960
Speaker 1: probably on the cusp of homeopathic, let's say, is somebody

235
00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,000
Speaker 1: who leans towards at least trying the things that are

236
00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,360
Speaker 1: are local and within reach as opposed to taking you

237
00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,080
Speaker 1: to a doctor or some sort of like pharmacy to

238
00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,160
Speaker 1: solve your problems. Absolutely, and by the way she was

239
00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:10,199
Speaker 1: like she was also on like organic foods before organic

240
00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,760
Speaker 1: foods was really you know, and like like growing up

241
00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,280
Speaker 1: in l A, like before it was Whole Foods, it

242
00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,640
Speaker 1: was this place called Mrs Guches. Whoa that's a problematic name,

243
00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:28,200
Speaker 1: Mr Mr Yeah, Mrs Guches was the one who you know,

244
00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,960
Speaker 1: she was. I mean, I don't know if there really

245
00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:36,080
Speaker 1: wasn't Mrs Gouch, but there probably was Mrsuch but the

246
00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,360
Speaker 1: Mrs Gooch got bought up by Whole Foods. But she

247
00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,720
Speaker 1: was the one who had all the organic foods. And

248
00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,240
Speaker 1: she would, you know, she would be like, this is

249
00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,280
Speaker 1: what you have to eat if you want to live forever.

250
00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,800
Speaker 1: Ship it always had eat these carrots if you want to,

251
00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, have better eyesight. Yeah, I would be like, okay,

252
00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,640
Speaker 1: well then I'm gonna eat these carrots up because I'm squinting. Yeah,

253
00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,840
Speaker 1: like to see better. I'll say, I'll follow your carrot dreams.

254
00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,760
Speaker 1: I can do that. Well, let me ask you this,

255
00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,000
Speaker 1: how much of this have you then carried into your

256
00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,480
Speaker 1: own life? Are you a person who who continues to

257
00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,880
Speaker 1: sort of live with like these homeopathic tendencies? Are you? Like, Nah,

258
00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,680
Speaker 1: I did it, the carrots didn't work. I still wear glasses.

259
00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,200
Speaker 1: Fuck it, I'm I'm gonna go eat McDonald's. I do

260
00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,240
Speaker 1: wear glasses. But it's it's in, it's in me, you know.

261
00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:34,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm absolutely still following the homeopathic training. I mean

262
00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,640
Speaker 1: I try not to be like, nah, fuck modern medicine,

263
00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,240
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna just go it on my own out here.

264
00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,640
Speaker 1: But but no, but I do. I do absolutely believe

265
00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,240
Speaker 1: that like there are the things in nature and the

266
00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,880
Speaker 1: things and like things that we didn't think like because

267
00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,360
Speaker 1: it started earlier, like with Grandma with like baking soda,

268
00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,360
Speaker 1: clearing your throat, you know, or or like toothpaste. When

269
00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,200
Speaker 1: I got a little bit odor, My Grandma would be

270
00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,840
Speaker 1: like put toothpaste on your pimple. There there's nothing better, No,

271
00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,320
Speaker 1: like pimple cream is gonna be better for you than

272
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,760
Speaker 1: just a little dollarp of toothpaste. I will say that

273
00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,040
Speaker 1: that to that point, I felt a type of and

274
00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how you felt when these things sort

275
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,160
Speaker 1: of got presented to you, but I felt a type

276
00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,840
Speaker 1: of relief when I found out that that was at

277
00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,160
Speaker 1: least an option, because then it wasn't there. There was

278
00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,480
Speaker 1: less of like this shame that I had to carry in, like, oh,

279
00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,760
Speaker 1: I gotta solve this problem of how to get these

280
00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,400
Speaker 1: pimples off my face. It's like, all right, I got

281
00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,760
Speaker 1: what's needed right at hand, and I just need to

282
00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,560
Speaker 1: figure out how to apply it the way that's gonna

283
00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,200
Speaker 1: make it so that I'm you know, not ugly anymore,

284
00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,640
Speaker 1: absolutely exactly, and and just all the different stuff, like

285
00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, just it's all it's it goes back to you.

286
00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,640
Speaker 1: You got everything you need, you know what I mean,

287
00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,120
Speaker 1: Like you always have everything you need in the cabinet,

288
00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,960
Speaker 1: in the garden or whatever, as long as you can,

289
00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, as long as you know how to how

290
00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,600
Speaker 1: to put those things together in the right way, and

291
00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, where they go, like toothpaste might not only

292
00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,800
Speaker 1: go on team that like that. You just gotta open

293
00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,080
Speaker 1: up your mind to what different things you gotta do.

294
00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,360
Speaker 1: You can go everybody right now should just go look

295
00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,639
Speaker 1: into their cabinet and see different ship and be like

296
00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,080
Speaker 1: what else could this be used? Yeah, open open your

297
00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,800
Speaker 1: crunchy third eye and you figure out how you can

298
00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,959
Speaker 1: apply these things in a in a more functional way.

299
00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,600
Speaker 1: And know that it probably came as like you know,

300
00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,719
Speaker 1: from Africa on the on the Juju train, you know,

301
00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,920
Speaker 1: like they were doing like juju and that then all

302
00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden became like, okay, we can now we

303
00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,040
Speaker 1: can now put this into a whole other situation. Yeah.

304
00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:52,359
Speaker 1: Well that's what makes it so fascinating, especially because you

305
00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,639
Speaker 1: you're sort of talking about your New Orleans roots and

306
00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,440
Speaker 1: and your your family's New Orleans roots. Here is that

307
00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,480
Speaker 1: so many of these things I feel like they were

308
00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,960
Speaker 1: just sort of made up by a lady, you know

309
00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,879
Speaker 1: what I mean, where it's just like a lady was like,

310
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,280
Speaker 1: give the baby some whiskey, see what happens. But it

311
00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,280
Speaker 1: is to your point, much more rooted in like a

312
00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,760
Speaker 1: real history, where like I'm sure whatever is in whiskey

313
00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,159
Speaker 1: at some point was being used to settle stomachs and

314
00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,959
Speaker 1: cure colds. And then at some point we didn't have

315
00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,720
Speaker 1: that exact medicine or roots or whatever the funk it was,

316
00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,119
Speaker 1: and so we found it in whiskey again and we're like,

317
00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,480
Speaker 1: fun it, give the baby some some jamison and let's

318
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,080
Speaker 1: see what happens. Well, and you know, and that stuff

319
00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,520
Speaker 1: has been proven a lot of the times. And it's

320
00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,760
Speaker 1: crazy because you don't you don't want to just only

321
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,119
Speaker 1: rely on this stuff. But you think about like even

322
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,159
Speaker 1: you know, we both we both got young babies like

323
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,720
Speaker 1: breast milk and ship. You know, for a while they

324
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,400
Speaker 1: were basically like, you're not getting everything you need from

325
00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,360
Speaker 1: breast milk. You need to take this formula. And that

326
00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,280
Speaker 1: was a crazy thing to be pushing on women, to

327
00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,359
Speaker 1: be like, no, this form love is going to be

328
00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 1: better for your child because of whatever the hell they said.

329
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 1: Where it's like mom's got everything up in them, up

330
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,800
Speaker 1: in them, up in them titties. You just let it flow,

331
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,120
Speaker 1: let it flow into the baby's mouth and they will

332
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,240
Speaker 1: be taken care of. So it's especially when you think

333
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,680
Speaker 1: about where in the middle of middle I guess it

334
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,960
Speaker 1: is a tough word at this point, but we are

335
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:32,399
Speaker 1: still facing down a pandemic, a global pandemic, whether whether

336
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 1: we want to deal with it or not. And and

337
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 1: one of the things that we discovered was that, you know,

338
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,920
Speaker 1: breastfeeding is an option for being able to to protect

339
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,400
Speaker 1: our daughter, protect children in general from the potential you know,

340
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 1: risks of COVID that like, because my wife gets vaccinated,

341
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,719
Speaker 1: breast milk does allow for some transference of like whatever

342
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 1: antibodies the baby might need to be able to be

343
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,479
Speaker 1: a little more safe in the face of you know,

344
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 1: whatever this virus is. Absolutely but and that's what's crazy though,

345
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 1: because then on the flip side is like people, you know,

346
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 1: people will take like our own immunity or whatever to

347
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: this other degree. Like all the things that we're talking

348
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,920
Speaker 1: about can also be used in a way that's like

349
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 1: we don't even need the vaccination, Like what's the point

350
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 1: of having that stuff? And that's that's when all this

351
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 1: stuff gets tricky and sort of like what is the conspiracy?

352
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 1: Is the conspiracy that like we should be listening to

353
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 1: like our mothers doing, you know, grabbing stuff from the

354
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 1: backyard and you repurposing other things in the cabinet for

355
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: our own benefit that we already have, or is the

356
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 1: conspiracy that like none of that ship works and we

357
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: need to rely on you know, vaccines, what it just gets.

358
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: It's all like you know, it goes to one extreme

359
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,919
Speaker 1: or the other when you're trying. I think what I

360
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,439
Speaker 1: think to your point the dangerous that we're in a

361
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 1: space where people feel like they exclusively have to pick

362
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: a side at all times. They have to go like, yo,

363
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm either completely a homeopathic person who who I don't

364
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: need medicine because push ups will cure my cancer, or

365
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: I am a person who is on the other side

366
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 1: of it, where it's like I refuse to to eat

367
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 1: a vegetable, but pray to God you give me every

368
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 1: shot in and sort of like injection that science advocates for.

369
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: And it's probably that we should all be meeting somewhere

370
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: in the middle where it's like, no, try all the

371
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: things that are in your cabinet, but if them ships

372
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: ain't working, go see somebody, bro. Yeah, go get it

373
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: checked out. YEA. What I mean, like, you definitely can't

374
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: just put like calcum powder on your balls if your

375
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: balls are like swollen beyond belief. You know, yeah, that's

376
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: not gonna do that for you. I've never had my

377
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: balls get swollen beyond belief, but I just know it.

378
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 1: It sounds like a personal story that you're trying to

379
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: make into a very general one. And a friend told

380
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: me recently that their balls really swelled up. No, it's

381
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,719
Speaker 1: true though, it absolutely is true, and it's you know,

382
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: it's And that's the thing with conspiracy theories in general. Right,

383
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've had this conversation a lot of the time,

384
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: which is like, yeah, of course a piece of this

385
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 1: ship is true, you know, like there's always gonna be

386
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: that little particle of it that's like, yeah, I'm not

387
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 1: debating that part. It's the whole thing around it that

388
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: now has gotten blown up to this crazy degree that

389
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 1: makes me be like, how did it go from this

390
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 1: to that? Yeah? I talked about this before on the podcast,

391
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: and in a weird way, it has now circled back

392
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: where to me, the most dangerous part of when the

393
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: pandemic really was at it's it's like height, was when

394
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: we were still arguing about where the virus came from.

395
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 1: Like it was that early period where it was truly

396
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: us just blaming Chinese people for eating bats and claiming

397
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: that you know, they had spilled a violin Wuhan and

398
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: that had somehow like exploded across the world. And I

399
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: don't know what caused the pandemic. There's probably a fair

400
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: amount of evidence that it was naturally born, and then

401
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: there's other evidence that maybe something science related happened that

402
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: was a mistake. I don't give a funk, though, And

403
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: I think to a certain extent, we all have to

404
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: get to a point in a nice way. We did

405
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: at at a period shift into a point where we said,

406
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: fuck it, let's just get rid of this motherfucker, and

407
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 1: then we got bored, and now we're back at being

408
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: like but them goddamn Chinese though, and it's like, fuck,

409
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: that's not this isn't helping y'all. I know now, Yeah,

410
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: we always got a circle back. It's like now I'm

411
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: just in a place where like if things if there's

412
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: a lull, like everybody wants things to be back to

413
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: quote unquote and normal, but also it doesn't seem like

414
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: we do because like if things start to get cool,

415
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: it's like, well, let's let's go rust with something else

416
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: up and figure out how we can just continue to

417
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: be traumatized by existing every day. Yeah, I I think

418
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: in that way it truly is like, uh, we're we're bored,

419
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like that we we

420
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: need a reason to be angry or to be excited

421
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know. The word is that sort of

422
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: like drives you forward. Some people are rage, some people

423
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: are joy whatever, but you need that thing. And for

424
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 1: a lot of people being anti, the sort of like

425
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: status quo or sort of the collective reasoning that we've

426
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: all landed on is more than enough to keep existing,

427
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: even if it means keeping us fucking stuck in this bullshit. Absolutely. Yeah,

428
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: Well before we we we go to break, let me

429
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: ask you this. You say you've embraced some of the

430
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: homeopathic things that your mother and and family have taught you.

431
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: Have you seen any of this ever backfire? Has there

432
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: ever been like damn, I had too much of the

433
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: thing and now my arm is weird or some ship,

434
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It didn't work? Well, I mean,

435
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if assilla coxinum ever works, you know

436
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: what I mean? I mean, because that's like the ultimate homeopathic.

437
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: Like if you're feeling like you have a cold, just

438
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: put some put some sugar pellets under your tongue, you

439
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I will continue to just

440
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: do those all the time, and they're absolutely have been

441
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: times where like I'll feel a little tickle in my throat.

442
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: I'll do like three jars, three little vials, you know,

443
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: plastic vials of that Asila cooxinum, and then I'm just hyper,

444
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, hyper, and I'm I'm not feeling better, I'm

445
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: just feeling more. Are intense. Yeah, your chest still still sore,

446
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: but you know you got the energy for it. Now,

447
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: You're you're exactly You're built up for twenty three minutes.

448
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be okay, and then I'll crash. I love that.

449
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take a break. We'll be back

450
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: with more way to Lane Marcus and more, my mama

451
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: told me. And we are bet mom ever feel you know, no, no, no, yeah,

452
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: We're back here with more way to Lane Marcus more.

453
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: My mama told me. Were still talking about those homeopathic remedies.

454
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: That things are mother's claim. They can do better at home.

455
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: We don't need doctors, we don't need medicine. It's it

456
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: reminds me of that Eddie Murphy Joe, we don't need

457
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: McDonald You don't. You don't need McDonald's. We I can

458
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: make burgers like McDonald's at home. You know, you remember that. No,

459
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: I don't. But I love that. And it's true. I

460
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: hated when my mom did ship like that, make this

461
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: big as burger that I don't want. Just give me

462
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: some flat poison from from the place that I like

463
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: with the toys, That's true. Burger king was my joint.

464
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: But I definitely like I would take a whopper any day,

465
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: any day. First of all, I respect that choice. I

466
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: think that's a that's a fair decision. Let me ask you,

467
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: were you making this decision even as a child, even

468
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: as a kid, you are like, I prefer flame broiled, definitely, definitely. Maybe, Yeah.

469
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: I think it was just it was just the the

470
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: flame broiled. Maybe it's because I was raised on organic food,

471
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So the flame broil just

472
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: felt closer to something more real than two patties with

473
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: another piece of bread in the middle. It was like

474
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't gonna get made at home. You know, I'll

475
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: say this, it sounds like you had a very advanced

476
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: palette for a young a young person. I myself. I'll

477
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: eat white castle till the day I die. I don't,

478
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: I can't taste anything. I'm a miserable funk who's I

479
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: ain't never had nothing organic, So who knows get into it,

480
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: because I definitely was eating like I don't think there's

481
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: anything I won't eat, and I don't think there's ever

482
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: been a time when I wouldn't eat anything like I basically,

483
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: my my pallet has been open since day one. I

484
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: don't know if my mom is responsible for that or

485
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: if that's just how I was formed, but I will

486
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: definitely leaves with anything. It's not even about trying anything

487
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: once is I'll eat a whole meal of whatever because

488
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: I just love all kinds of food like that. I'm

489
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm truly the same way. I just it has worked.

490
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: I think in a way that is slightly askew from

491
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: what you're taught king about in that I will do

492
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: it with garbage, you know what I mean? Like you're

493
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: I think you're speaking in a way that makes it

494
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: feel like, oh, you'll try any food, it doesn't matter

495
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: because food can be culture and beautiful, and I'm like,

496
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: no man flip over a lid like a heath cliff

497
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: and put a fishbone on it, and I'll eat the motherfucker.

498
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: I don't care about myself or my life, you know, Yeah, no,

499
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: I get that. I mean I've definitely eaten like, uh,

500
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: this thing called grass cutter, which is what they which

501
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: is what they have in Ghana on the streets, Like

502
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: this is just some like this is not like delicious

503
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 1: ganame food. This is just like in Ghana they have

504
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: this thing called grass cutter, and it's basically like a

505
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: rat that's like this big. They sell it like a stick,

506
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: like a little grass cut on the stick, like a

507
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: little chicken stick kind of thing, you know, like one

508
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: of those like when you get a tie those thie

509
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: chicken sticks, except you see a little claw kind of

510
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: at the end of it speared spirits, so you're just

511
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: kind of gnawing on a little arm. God damn, that's

512
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: a different kind of garbage. The worst thing I think

513
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: I ever ate, and I had a few pretty wild things.

514
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: I went to China with my students years ago. I

515
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: was there chaperon going to China, and we ate like

516
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: their street food, which was like fried scorpion I had.

517
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: I had fried starfish that was fucking awful. That's that's

518
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: like it tastes like toe nails, like layered on top

519
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: of each other, toenails, and like intelligence. Right, And that

520
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: aren't they smart? Don't they know things? I think so?

521
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're not like super I think

522
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: octopus are the real Yeah, those are the brilliant animals

523
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: of the sea. But starfish aren't as dumb as we

524
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: want them to be. And boy was I trying to

525
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: bite into that smart animal and it was it's u

526
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: I hated it. Yeah, that doesn't sound like a great

527
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: and but you know, you gotta try things. You gotta

528
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: be opening up your your palette in your mind, you know,

529
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: like that record says, put it in your mouth. Huh.

530
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: That's okay. Let's let's jump into some of this research

531
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: because we can't obviously cover all of the the various

532
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: home remedies that that we've talked about throughout all of this,

533
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: but I did want to pick a few of them

534
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: to dig into. And one of the things that got

535
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: me really excited was hot toddies apparently are very legitimate.

536
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: I was surprised to find out that that this whiskey

537
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: treatment that your mother was offering, and many mothers have

538
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: offered for years and years. Is not as absurd as

539
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: it seems like it would be, right, Okay, And so

540
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: is that more for like a little like a cough

541
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: or cold, Because hot toddies, I feel like I associate

542
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: more with like you're kind of stuffed up or something

543
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: like that, not necessarily when you're like puking your brains out.

544
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: So I'll say all of the things that whiskey potentially,

545
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 1: and whiskey and sort of the combination of all the

546
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: things that you can find in a hot toddy might do.

547
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: But as it's basically being explained, moderate alcohol consumption has

548
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: been shown to dilate mucus membranes much in the same

549
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: way that menthol does. So if you have like a

550
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: common cold, if you're congested in some kind of way,

551
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: I'll smoke a motherfucking pack of cools. Hell, yeah, dude,

552
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: take a shot, smoke some cools. You're gonna feel fine. Sorry. Yeah,

553
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: that's so opens the membranes. It opens those mucus membranes.

554
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: And then whiskey specifically also contains this antioxidant allergic acid.

555
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: Allergic acid. I'm not good at reading words, my man,

556
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: but it's studies suggests this may help treat viral and

557
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: bacterial infection. So whiskey specifically has sort of like a

558
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: you know a little bit more of a healing property

559
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 1: to it than alcohols. It's so wild to think about,

560
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, because you know, Mom didn't know that she

561
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: did specifics of that, you know what I mean, Like

562
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: she's flying blind with it. This is just from generations

563
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 1: of drink this like she did to me, you know.

564
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: But there there's a realness there, and that's a beautiful thing. Yeah,

565
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: she was just getting a five year old fucked up,

566
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: but in actuality, the science was saying he's not just

567
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: sucked up, he's less congested than he was previously. So

568
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: the whiskey in conjunction with hot water which relieves Nate's

569
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: little congestion, and honey which consumes sore throats and suppressed coughts,

570
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: and then the vitamin C that you would find in

571
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: lemon juice helps to reduce flim That's what makes a

572
00:33:54,360 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: hot toddy potentially this this magical healing drink. Now, the downfall,

573
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: and this is sort of like the thing that they

574
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: warn against with hot toddies is that while it does

575
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: have the potential to be this fixer. There are a

576
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: lot of other potential issues with the over consumption of alcohol,

577
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: right that. Dehydration, constipation, nausea, and of course the inexplicable

578
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: changes in your personality are all things that might warn

579
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: you against it. Certainly overuse of alcohol as a healing

580
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: tool if you will, absolutely, But you know that's true

581
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: with everything, right I feel like there's nothing that is

582
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: good for you in one dose that is better for

583
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: you in more doses. Yeah, you know what I mean.

584
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean everything that gets abused in that in that

585
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: way is going to there's a tipping point. You know,

586
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: you've got to use the right amount. That's totally fair.

587
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: I it reminds me so much of the fact that, uh,

588
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: and this was a revelation for me when I was

589
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: like in high school or whatever, that you can die

590
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: from drinking too much water. That you can fucking drown

591
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: yourself if you just in water supposed to be like

592
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: are it's the most of our makeup. It fixes everything.

593
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: But now you can't drink too much of that ship

594
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: because you'll do we think, is that actually true? It's

595
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: you can totally die from drinking too much water because

596
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: you'll just thin out your blood too much, I think

597
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: it you truly will drown your body like it your organs,

598
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: I guess will somehow be Yeah, by by the water.

599
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: That said, it ain't what we potentially are drinking, you

600
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's not like, oh, you had

601
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: your eight glasses and now you're at risk of drowning.

602
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: You truly would have to have like five gallons of

603
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: water a day, and you have to be tortured on

604
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: some water boarding kind of ship exactly it. You really

605
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: would have to be going crazy with this ship. But

606
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: it also reminded me of like the that old phrase, right,

607
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: we know that phrase an apple a day keeps the

608
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: doctor away, That that sort of is at the root

609
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: of this homeopathic logic. But then it also reminded me

610
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: that that the seeds of apples are carson. Yeah, that it.

611
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: It truly is a poison if you are to eat

612
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: enough of them, and enough of them like fine finely

613
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: chopped and sort of like ground up. And it would

614
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: take somewhere between I think a hundred and fifty to

615
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: several thousand apple seeds to do it. But you really

616
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: could be giving yourself cyanide poison by by eating them. Yeah,

617
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: that's so wid. I mean, all of it does. It

618
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: has the roots to kill us and to save us

619
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: basically within anything, right, I mean, I just like, I'm

620
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: just like looking around my room. I just see I

621
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: see a pencil like Nelson Mandela, you know what I'm saying.

622
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: But also like that you can just I can save

623
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: myself in the eye or something, you know what I mean.

624
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: I love you're you're playing the Diever games. Uh fay

625
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: spy a mirror, I can tell me that I have

626
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: a booker on my nose. But I also could have

627
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: the picture of Dorian Greg where I just look at

628
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: myself and then all of a sudden, you know, you

629
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: don't realize that you're dead. You'd I'm not just a

630
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: good looking, light skinned motherfucker. I'm I'm oh dead motherfucker.

631
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: Oh motherfucker. So this also got me thinking about this

632
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: question because Okay, whiskey works, that's exciting. It got me

633
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: questioning the the toothpaste of it all, right, and and

634
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: skin care and whether or not toothpaste actually does work.

635
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: And as it turns out, unlike the whiskey of it all,

636
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: toothpaste does not seem to be a great medicinal option

637
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: for solving your acne. I'm sorry, man, you know what's

638
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: crazy about that, because like the tooth aste is from

639
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: Grandma and the whiskey is from mom, and so now

640
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: I'm just feeling like, you know, I gotta well, now

641
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell Grandma. I'm just gonna let Grandma

642
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: keep thinking that the toothpaste is. Okay, that's sweet of you.

643
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: You gotta take that away from her. It's gonna be like,

644
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: next time she sees one on my face and be like, thanks, Grandma.

645
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: So we do that. So it's so interesting that you

646
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: said that your grandmother was the one that that offered

647
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: this up to you, because part of the reason that

648
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: toothpaste became a potential home remedy for acne was because

649
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: older toothpaste, toothpaste you know before a certain generation, actually

650
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: contained this stuff called tri clossen, and tri clossen specifically

651
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: had stuff in it that could kill bacteria in a pimple.

652
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: So there was a version of toothpaste that did in

653
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: fact have the potential to like make your pimple's less

654
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: pimplee that said, we took triclossen out of toothpaste because

655
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: it had other side effects. It apparently, Yeah, it apparently

656
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: did weird fucked up shipped to your thyroid hormones. So

657
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't great to be putting on your your face

658
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: or in your mouth, you know what I mean? That

659
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: makes sense? And what about did we did we look

660
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: at lavender? I didn't look at lavender. I found myself

661
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: going further and further down a lot of these other options.

662
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: I'll keep lavender as a burn for myself, right, Yeah, lavender,

663
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to do some independent study

664
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: on that. Uh, sign up with a local university and

665
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: make sure that you're you're making that happen. I did

666
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: look up something that you mentioned earlier, which was baby

667
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: powder and talc, specifically in the question of whether or

668
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: not talc. Because you are a father, you know this

669
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: very well that at a certain point they stopped telling

670
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: us to put baby powder on our babies, which seems counterintuitive, Like,

671
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: you think the ship has their fucking name on it,

672
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: you should be putting this on the baby. And they're like,

673
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: don't you put that on your fucking baby. That's gonna

674
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 1: kill your baby. And I wanted to really understand why,

675
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: and for years, I don't know if you had heard this,

676
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: but I had heard that talc was cancer causing. I

677
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: heard that too, Yeah, is it not? So, it's it's

678
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: hard to know that. If you go on Johnson and

679
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: Johnson's website, they really want you to know that no

680
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: one has sufficient evidence to prove that talc can give

681
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: you cancer, Whereas if you go on other websites, they

682
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: are very adamant that talc and baby powder will give

683
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: you cancer if inhaled or put on your skin. That said,

684
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: one of the things that makes baby powder bad that

685
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: isn't as much up for debate is that the American

686
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: Academy of Pediatrics warned against talc since nineteen sixty nine,

687
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily because of the cancer question, but because baby

688
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: powder drives out mucus member rains, which can then lead

689
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: to respiratory diseases such as pneumonia, asthma, pulmonary talcosis, lung fibrosis,

690
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: and respiratory failure. Wolf And so then once you put

691
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: too much baby powder, then you gotta give a little

692
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: bit of whiskey to open up, and it just becomes

693
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: a cyclical thing again, you know, it always comes back, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

694
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: And that's what the whiskey is for I imagine this,

695
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: you gotta mix this ship technico to take the bed.

696
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: They were giving us the towl so that they can

697
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: give us the whiskey. Put it all together. It reminded me, though,

698
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: in a in an important way, I think of just

699
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: how often the things that we are being presented with

700
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: have potential danger in them, right that like baby powder

701
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: for years was something that you were told to put

702
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: on your baby. You were promised was gonna keep your

703
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: baby safe and dry and all the things. And then

704
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: at some point they go, oh, fun, my bad, Uh,

705
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: don't do that no more. And then a company that

706
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: still benefits from making the ship goes, no, you can

707
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 1: still do it. Good, No, no, keep keep doing the ship.

708
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: And so it's all complicated and conflated, which then leads

709
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: us to what we were talking about earlier, of people

710
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: making these hard fastened decisions of I will never funk

711
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: with any of this ship because of the possible risk

712
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: that I'm being lied to on the back end. No,

713
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: it's so wow, because you have to. You can't just

714
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: go through life being like I'm suspicious of everything that

715
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: is like presented to me, and yet in the same

716
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: breath you kind of have to question everything. Yes, so

717
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: you have to do both of those things at the

718
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: same time, which of course is going to breed conspiracy

719
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: theories because you're like living in the in between of like, alright,

720
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: some people are gonna tell me truths. There are some

721
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: things that are gonna be good for me. But at

722
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: the same time, where is this source coming from? I

723
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: have to question this just to make sure that it's right,

724
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: quote unquote do my own research. But all the people

725
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: who are saying like I'm gonna do my own research

726
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: on that right now, you know, these are people who

727
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: like aren't getting vaccinated or something, you know what I mean.

728
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: So it's just it is such a strange thing of

729
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: having to live between both of those worlds of like

730
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: trust things that people say to you, sure, question do

731
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: your own research, but question everything. And I think even further, like,

732
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: thank God, I I feel very grateful that I do

733
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: my own research, mostly for the sake of of stupidity, right,

734
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: that I do it so that I could talk ship

735
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: with with people I respect and my friends. It has

736
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: very little to do with me being like super passionate

737
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: about any of these things. I'm just being a silly billy.

738
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: But then there are people who are doing the same

739
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: level of shitty research that I'm doing and picking that

740
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: research as like the way that they are going to

741
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: define themselves for the rest of their lives. And that's

742
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: fucking scary. No, that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, but

743
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: and that maybe is to your point of like we

744
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: should all just be silly billies. Yes, you know what

745
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 1: I mean, because like if we're too serious about any

746
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: of it, like we're just gonna we're gonna freeze up

747
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: and shrivel up. Like I don't know that that that

748
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: lives in the same space of like all of this

749
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: is really important, right, Like the work we do in

750
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: terms of like telling stories, making film and TV, doing

751
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: comedy or whatever like that is important in a lot

752
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: of ways because it changes the culture. It changes how

753
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: we see ourselves and how other people see us. And

754
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: also it's a high level version of pretend like we're

755
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 1: just you know, we're just out here floating around. Yeah,

756
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: and sillybillies. Yeah. I think I think we we would

757
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: benefit as a as a society of embracing how many

758
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: of us are just silly people, whether that is our

759
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: career path or not. That like truth be told, whether

760
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: I had chosen comedy as my career. I was always

761
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: gonna be a silly motherfucker, and I would do better

762
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,479
Speaker 1: to embrace that than to be like, I'm a professional now,

763
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: so I'm a professional serious man. It's like, no, motherfucker,

764
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: you know what you do at night, just be a

765
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: silly billy. Just you can be a silly billy at

766
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: the factory too. Yeah, I mean do the job right, ye,

767
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: silly billy, don't lose your finger over it. But like

768
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: they have fun billy. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take

769
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: one more break. We'll be back with more way to

770
00:45:48,120 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: Lane Marcus and more. My mama told me we are that. No, no, no, yeah,

771
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: we're back here with more way to Lane Marcus more.

772
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: My mama told me. We're still talking about the homeopathic

773
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: remedies that our mothers offered to us, and whether or

774
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: not we should be dealing in that ship or or

775
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 1: I guess, embracing it fully, become the grass fed person

776
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: that you should have always been, or turned to modern

777
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: medicine and never eat grass again. Who knows, well, it's

778
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: probably somewhere in the middle. I feel like that's where

779
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: we've that's where us mixed dudes have come to you

780
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean, as Jewish fathered, black mothered men have. Yeah,

781
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: it's somewhere in the middle of those two. Yeah, we

782
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: really picked the cowards way out and said right in

783
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: the middle. Does somebody listen to this, like, bitch, choose aside?

784
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: The war is coming now. No, I'm gonna stay somewhere

785
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: in the middle here, You're doing the right thing. Okay,

786
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: let's let's jump into this game. I have a very

787
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: fun game for us. It's it's a classic game on

788
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: this show are most classic game. It's a game called

789
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: white Lies. Ugly. You're disgusting. I'm gonna kill you. Give

790
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: me two white lies. This is a fun game where

791
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: or wait, I am going to introduce to you a

792
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that that is sort of circulating in the

793
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: white community, a conspiracy theory I certainly had not heard of,

794
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: but one that white people seem to be uh supporting

795
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: in some kind of way. And I would love for

796
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: you to just unpack why you think this conspiracy theory

797
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: is so important to white people. What do you think

798
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: these sneaky motherfucker's are up to. Please, let's see. This

799
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: is an exciting one. It was submitted to us via

800
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: one of our our listeners. It is one I had

801
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: never heard before, but I'm excited to share it with

802
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: you now. They're apparently on Breddit. Is a conspiracy theory

803
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: that Anne Hathaway's husband bears a strong resemblance to the

804
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: poet William Shakespeare. That the wife of WILLIAMS. Shakespeare, who

805
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: died in six three, was called Anne Hathaway, and Shakespeare

806
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: one day wrote life is too short to love you alone.

807
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: In one I promised to look for you in the

808
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: next life. And so I think they are theorizing that

809
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: Shakespeare has returned to get his Ann Hathaway in a

810
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: new life. And these motherfucker's I'm gonna share my screen

811
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: with you. These motherfuckers don't not look alike, you know,

812
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: they kind of there's stuff resemblance right here. Oh my god,

813
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: that's crazy. There there there's a little bit of a

814
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: resemblance between this painting of a man who lived four hundred,

815
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: five hundred years ago and Ann Hathaway's husband. Oh that

816
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: is um, that's pretty any I mean Shakespeare. The paintings

817
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: of Shakespeare are kind of like the images of Jesus

818
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: right where we just don't quite know, but I do,

819
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: I do, uh, I do see it. Yeah, I see

820
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: why that would be together. I mean, and so why

821
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: do I think that white people tell themselves this lie?

822
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: Why do you think and let's let's focus it a

823
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: little bit. Why do you think it's so important to

824
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 1: white people that this might potentially be that this William

825
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: Shakespeare has time traveled and or reincarnated himself to once

826
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: again be with modern and Hathaway, Well, I would probably

827
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: go to the place that you know, and Hathaway is

828
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: a polarizing figure, you know. I think she's a polarizing

829
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: figure both in the white community and maybe just in general.

830
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: And Shakespeare too, is someone who you're like, was it

831
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: Francis Bacon, was it Christopher Marlowe? You know? Was it

832
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: Queen and Berleynn? I don't know. I just threw that one,

833
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: and you know, I had to be. There's there's probably

834
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: a woman behind Shakespeare too, I know, like this mother reading,

835
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't even know that. No, no, no, I don't.

836
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: I think Ane Bolen is just the one who cuts

837
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: some heads off or something like she was Bulen was

838
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: definitely doing some crazy ship. But I am going to

839
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: venture to say that because of Anne's polarizing profile, that

840
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: Anne Hathaway followers the ones who really loved her, because

841
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: I do think the people that love Anne are our

842
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: writer DIYers, that they kind of created this thing to

843
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: give an an anchor, being like, there's this nebulous white

844
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: man out there who who in our world is the

845
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: father of so much of modern language in a lot

846
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: of ways, was to lend some real credence to somebody

847
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: who has kind of a shaky reputation out in the world.

848
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: WHOA I like that as an answer, because what you're

849
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: suggesting is that if I'm an Ann Hathaway supporter, if

850
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm a Hathaway head, this is a Hathaway in the

851
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: Hathaway in. This is a way to add gravity to

852
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: the the person who I love and and want to

853
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: sort of like be in in support of that. Like

854
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: and Hathaway is is maybe just an actress who sometimes

855
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: rubs people the wrong way, but if we add these

856
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: other layers to it, and Hathaway is potentially a savior,

857
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: a person connected to our greatest absolute writer. She's a

858
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: chosen one and and has always been chosen for the

859
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: last you know, yeah, whatever, I guess he's like sixteenth

860
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: century something like that. It's fifth because it's one before

861
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: the one that. Yeah, no, look, man, billies, you know

862
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: it's back then. You know they had them pointed ass

863
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: shoes and you know the things that were that were

864
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: that were hyped up, the little high water joints. Yeah,

865
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: they were doing it. Well, Fuck, I don't wait a minute.

866
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: That's cool, motherfuck completely that we did it. Wait. I

867
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: think I think that was a wonderful answer. I think

868
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: this was a wonderful, wonderful episode, a great recording. Could

869
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: you tell the people at home where they could find you,

870
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: what cool ship you have going on? All of that?

871
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, because right now I'm just in the cut,

872
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm writing, I'm building the stuff, you know, I mean

873
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 1: obviously watching Secure. The final season is airing right now,

874
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: so you can catch me as Derek Dubois and all

875
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: your screens and and besides that, you know, just laid

876
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: back in the cut like I am. Just wait for

877
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: wait for the new stuff to cut them as it

878
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: as it most definitely will. Fuck yeah, So wait your

879
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: goddamn turn, you idiots for a way to be ready

880
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: to show you this ship. But watching Secure and and

881
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: follow Weight online, and as always you can follow me

882
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: at Langston Kerman and if you want to send us drops,

883
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: if you want to send us your own conspiracy theories,

884
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: if you just want to send hate mail, send that

885
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: goddamn ship to my mama pot at gmail dot com.

886
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: I would love to hear from you. Otherwise I don't know. Bye, bitch,

887
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: bye my crop chips in your hands. Quas are racist,

888
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: mostly money mary stuff. I can't tell me