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Speaker 1: whooping going on in this Monday night football game. Let's

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Speaker 1: see make sure I didn't miss anything. Thirty to eleven,

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Speaker 1: more Middlecoff mailbags. At John Middlecoff is the Instagram handle

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Speaker 1: those d ms we got. We got basically the final eight, right,

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Speaker 1: four in the NFC, Packers, Niners, Bucks, Rams, Titans, Bengals, Chiefs, Bills.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good final eight. You know, I don't think most

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Speaker 1: definitely Bills, Chiefs, Packers, Rams, Bucks, the Niners. I mean,

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Speaker 1: mean Joe Burrows stud Um. So we will dive into

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Speaker 1: a bunch of football talk, have the golf podcast out

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Speaker 1: Wednesday as well, and we'll keep on rolling, rocket and rolling,

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Speaker 1: rocket and rolland baby football playoffs. We have four six,

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Speaker 1: seven games left, seven games left until the fall, so

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Speaker 1: enjoy the football. Unless you're like an SEC or Big ten.

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Speaker 1: Then guys got that spring football game. But let's face it,

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Speaker 1: seven games left in the NFL. Uh It's been fun,

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty uneventful. Wild Guard weekend. Um not actually not great.

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Speaker 1: forty Niners come back and ruin the Rams day. It

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Speaker 1: But it was pretty devastating. It wasn't your typical hats

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Speaker 1: to come back and I know the Cardinals are a

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Speaker 1: That's impressive by Sean McVeigh. I I've said it for

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna be celebratory, be celebratory. Sean McVeigh is

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Speaker 1: a big boy coach. He has now won, uh you know, obviously,

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Speaker 1: hat tip to Sean McVeigh that that's what top flight

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Speaker 1: and that that's why he's a he's a superstar head coach.

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Speaker 1: they don't have Super Bowls, but how many coaches would

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Speaker 1: ton of talent. Uh. Now do they have a long

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Speaker 1: Arizona area, general managers and coaches would be lying up

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Speaker 1: division is big time. Uh. You know they've had success

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Speaker 1: man walking now. If they let him coach on his

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Speaker 1: And I'm not going to take a victory lap on

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Speaker 1: this one because I don't root. You know, even though

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Speaker 1: was pretty clear this was never going to work. A

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Speaker 1: couple of things translate in football physicality, toughness, and listen,

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Speaker 1: say McVeigh, having watched him from a four the Niners perspective,

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Speaker 1: And that was the toughness mismatch. So the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: big swing. These home and road playoff games are a

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Speaker 1: big deal. So they just totally ship the bed again

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Speaker 1: it's the head coach, the scheme, and a little quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And I, as someone who was a big fan of

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying the guy can't play and he can't

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Speaker 1: mean I would, I'm out, so you won't hear me

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Speaker 1: to sling it all over the place, And this is

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Speaker 1: why I struggled, like I couldn't get behind paying him

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Speaker 1: forty million dollars because he's not accurate and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have that explosive of at all. And you saw yesterday

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Speaker 1: they really only took one shot and they hit it

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Speaker 1: on a Mari when he smoked the slot receiver, the

430
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Speaker 1: slot corner Kawan Williams. But they're not really bombs away

431
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Speaker 1: because he's not a bombs away guy. So I do

432
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: think like it's spilled milk, but there's water in the bridge.

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00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 1: The contract is the contract. He's not going anywhere. You

434
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Speaker 1: do need to adapt the offense a little bit to

435
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Speaker 1: his skill set if you're gonna ask him to throw

436
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: it forty five to fifty times a game against the

437
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Speaker 1: top teams. We're not talking Joe Judge. We're not talking

438
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Speaker 1: the football team. We're not talking the Eagles backup. We

439
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: are talking the Niners, the Box, the Packers, the good teams.

440
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: For all the marbles, they have to play differently. That

441
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: is not a formula for success. Now, when you look

442
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Speaker 1: back at McCarthy's teams, he had Rogers, who is infinitely

443
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Speaker 1: better than Dak Prescott. But one of the reasons that

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh got him twice and then uh even I guess

445
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Speaker 1: McCarthy wasn't the team. But but McCarthy lost a lot

446
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Speaker 1: of big playoff games is because they tried to play

447
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Speaker 1: this spread office that's hard to play in the playoffs. Now,

448
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't because Rogers couldn't sling it around. It was

449
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: just harder to play. And you know the inclement weather

450
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Speaker 1: with Dak, it's just they're playing in a dome. It

451
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Speaker 1: doesn't even matter. He's not built to do that. He's

452
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Speaker 1: you have to think of him much more closely to

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith. Then. I think the way that the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: internally believe that he's that he is because he's just

455
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: not that guy. It's just to me also kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: He's not that accurate. I watch a guy who's just

457
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Speaker 1: not naturally that accurate, which if you're not going to

458
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Speaker 1: have a big arm, that's a little concerning. It really

459
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Speaker 1: is like Jimmy Garoppolo has a better arm than Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think that's arguable. If you have eyes

461
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Speaker 1: and you watch the game, you go, yeah, Jimy's got

462
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Speaker 1: a more explosive form. And it turns out Jimmy was

463
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Speaker 1: playing yesterday with his sprained shoulder and after the second

464
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Speaker 1: quarter the other team, which it's the reason I wasn't

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Speaker 1: that big on Mac Jones, and like I understand why

466
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Speaker 1: Belichick took him in fifteenth. Overall, they had no quarterback situation.

467
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,239
Speaker 1: They were desperate to re sign Camp just because they

468
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Speaker 1: didn't have anyone else. Uh, it was just values the

469
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Speaker 1: last quarterback on the board. I get it, But I

470
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Speaker 1: do struggle with the ceiling of the franchise with a

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Speaker 1: guy who's pretty average arm. Now here's what I will

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Speaker 1: say about Mac. Like Dak, his football intelligence, his understand

473
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Speaker 1: is under ability to redefenses, his toughness, all the intangible

474
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Speaker 1: stuff checks all the boxes. Mac is an impressive guy.

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Speaker 1: I do think his skill set, Like when you just

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Speaker 1: saw him on the field with Josh Allen, he couldn't

477
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Speaker 1: dream of doing half the things Josh Allen does with

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Speaker 1: his eyes closed, right, or Mahomes or Lamar Jackson or

479
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: Herbert or all the physically really talented guys. He's gonna

480
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Speaker 1: have to beat you with his mind and really again

481
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Speaker 1: play closer to Alex Smith. Well, here's the thing with

482
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Speaker 1: the Patriots is they were able to get away with

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Speaker 1: it for a long period of time because they had

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady and you know, Gronkowski Edelman their core guys

485
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Speaker 1: on defense. Their special teams were always good. They were

486
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: they were a greatly built team, and Belichick deserves a

487
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Speaker 1: lot of credit. He built a team and he also

488
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: had the greatest quarterback of all time. But Tom's arm

489
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: was really elite. I mean, Max just isn't. But unlike

490
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Speaker 1: what they were able to somewhat circumvent with Tom, Really

491
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Speaker 1: their core guys on offense were the running backs, Gronkowski

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Speaker 1: and Edelman, and they kind of had a you know,

493
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Speaker 1: rotating door at wide receiver. But let's face it, like

494
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Speaker 1: the second iteration of the Patriots that won several championships

495
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: were not that dynamic at wide receiver. Mac Jones had

496
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Speaker 1: success in Alabama because he had dynamic weapons outside. He

497
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Speaker 1: had elite players. I mean he had multiple. I guess

498
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Speaker 1: he played at the end of that, you know, to

499
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Speaker 1: his year, because he got hurt. But the year he started,

500
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Speaker 1: he had Waddle and he had he had Devonte Smith,

501
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Speaker 1: and Devonte Smith ended up when the higsman. He also

502
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Speaker 1: had Nagy Harris, who's starting running back for a you know,

503
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Speaker 1: for a playoff He Now we can argue the Steelers

504
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: a normal playoff team, probably not, but Najia Harris is

505
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: stud But those wide receivers were really a game changer.

506
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Speaker 1: And Belichick is gonna have to find a way. And

507
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Speaker 1: I know he hasn't had much success drafting wide receivers,

508
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: but look at the Bills, who just kicked the ship

509
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Speaker 1: out of him. They were in a position where they

510
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Speaker 1: needed to help out their young quarterback and they traded

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Speaker 1: them pick twenty two for Stephan Dicks. That is a

512
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: massive hit. Diggs has been a star for them. It's

513
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: actually been a win win because the Vikings, the best

514
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Speaker 1: player on their team is the wide receiver that they

515
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Speaker 1: used with that pick. Really, it could have been a

516
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Speaker 1: win win. You could have just stayed there. It's hard

517
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Speaker 1: to know when they made the trade. They had to

518
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Speaker 1: make the trade. That was a very very good trade.

519
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: I do think that Belichick is going to have to

520
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Speaker 1: entertain doing something like that this offseason. Is there a guy,

521
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Speaker 1: and I don't know the specific player, but is DK

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Speaker 1: Metcalf available? Could you could you trade your first round

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Speaker 1: pick for d k back. I'm not even saying he's

524
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Speaker 1: worthy of it. I'm just I'm just throwing out a

525
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Speaker 1: name of a team that might be doing some turnover.

526
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Speaker 1: That would be the type move to do. Remember the

527
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Speaker 1: Cardinals did it a couple of years ago when they

528
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Speaker 1: traded for DeAndre Hopkins. Now they only had to use

529
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Speaker 1: a second round pick. I think Belichick is gonna have

530
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Speaker 1: to utilize draft capital to get Mac Jones of help

531
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Speaker 1: because part of their limitation is going to be in

532
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty two, like things change. It was

533
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: much easier in defense and physicality. I was texting with

534
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: a guy in the NFL that actually was part of

535
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: a pretty physical win over the weekend, and he was saying,

536
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: like they just didn't want it that they we hit

537
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: him in the teeth early on, and we could tell

538
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: they kind of wiltered. Physicality and toughness will always work

539
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL. No matter how much the rule changes,

540
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: no matter how much society changes, Physicality toughness translates in

541
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: life and definitely in the sport of football, and definitely

542
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: on the road. So I'm not saying that Belichick has

543
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: to change his whole mindset. He's the greatest coach of

544
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: all time. But they got away this year with playing

545
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: defense and running the ball well to win in the playoffs,

546
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Speaker 1: especially in the f C Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, even

547
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: with Bozoh, Brandon Staley, they got Justin Herbert. They're not

548
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: going anywhere Lamar Jackson. There is so much quarterback firepower

549
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to score points. And the Patriots, ultimately

550
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: their downfall, always was gonna be. It's one thing to

551
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: score fifty points against the Jacksonville Jackson don't have a coach,

552
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: it or just in shambles. It's another thing to be

553
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: in a playoff game and be like, obviously their defense

554
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: let him down in that game. But let's just say,

555
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: instead of scoring whatever forty seven points the Bills had

556
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: scored thirty, how are the Patriots gonna get to It

557
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: was gonna be very, very difficult, and they just don't

558
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: have enough firepower. So Belichick is gonna have to think

559
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: and he said it before. You know, once upon a

560
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: time they make a trade for Randy Moss, Like, he's

561
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: very good at finding these players over his history, but

562
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: he's got to do that for Mac Jones because Mac

563
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: Jones is just not gonna be He doesn't have the

564
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: physical capabilities to just carry your franchise at the highest

565
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: level in a conference with countless fifty million dollar quarterbacks.

566
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Speaker 1: Literally one guy kind a four and fifty million dollar deal.

567
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: He's one of the best young players we've ever seen,

568
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Superstar, Lamar Jackson going nowhere justin Herbert. The

569
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: league would jump in front of a train to get

570
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: their hands on that guy as their quarterback. So I

571
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: think Belichick's gonna have to be very very aggressive this

572
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Speaker 1: offseason to get offensive fire defense. He's always able to

573
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Speaker 1: figure that out. That it's he can find the J. C.

574
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Speaker 1: Jackson's and coach up the high towers and that's not

575
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Speaker 1: gonna be his issue. But getting offensive guys, I think

576
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Speaker 1: he's best at scouting guys in the league. We've seen it.

577
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Speaker 1: He can be hit because the drafts hit or miss.

578
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Speaker 1: It's hard, But I think he's gonna have to isolate

579
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Speaker 1: guys that are available. There's a lot of coaching turnover.

580
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Speaker 1: Anytime there's a ton of coaching turnover, eight new coaches,

581
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: that means players will be available, and I think Belichick

582
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: can take advantage of that. I claimed I wouldn't talk

583
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: about this guy, but I read the day that Albert

584
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: Brier and it was reported over the weekend that John

585
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: Schneider and Pete Carroll had met with the Paul Allen's daughter,

586
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: who I think now just basically runs the franchise because

587
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: Paul Allen passed away and they're good, like they're they're

588
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Basically, it was reported that status quo,

589
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna run it back and those guys are gonna

590
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: be the GM the head coach, and they intend on

591
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: keeping Russell Wilson. Of course they do. He's the best

592
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: player in the history of the franchise and they're starting quarterback.

593
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: Like what else would you do? Like, yeah, we're just

594
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: gonna trade. They do not want to trade Russell Wilson,

595
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: no matter how big of a pain in the assay

596
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: is because let's face it, he can be a little

597
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: bit of a diva. That's not really arguable at this point. Well,

598
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: of course, there was a leak from his camp that

599
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: was like, well, he's not asking for a trade, but

600
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: he'd be willing to explore his options. And then one

601
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: thing I read today in Albert Briers m MQB because

602
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: I just I knew the drama was coming from Russell Wilson.

603
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: And one thing he's clearly adamant of being a part

604
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: of is like I want a bigger role in the organization.

605
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: And I just I was thinking about it this morning.

606
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Speaker 1: What the fund does that mean? Like I do not

607
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: understand you've only been with one team. Same thing with Rogers,

608
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: remember Rogers? Like I want more? Say of what? Like

609
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: who are practice Squade? Is? Okay? You want Randall cob Back?

610
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: I get it, Like we'll trade for your Randall cop

611
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: But like you want to pick the third round players?

612
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: Have you evaluated the entire draft? You want to who

613
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: you want me to sign? Like? What what does Russell

614
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: Wilson want? Davante Adams were like, no, ship like every

615
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: guy in the league? Or do you want some role player? Well,

616
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: do you want to rank the role players? Do you

617
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: want to come into our personnel meetings? That's what I

618
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: wonder like this notion, and I think everyone's jealous to

619
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Tom Brady got zero say in New England,

620
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: absolutely none, never had any poll was signing guys. Now

621
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: he got pulled when he got the Tampa But think

622
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: about the poll he said, yeah, I want to bring

623
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski. Pretty easy one. Every team in the league

624
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: if Tom Brady was going to join their team, they

625
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: would have signed Rob Gronkowski. That was a pretty easy transaction.

626
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: His other move was, let's face it, kind of rocky.

627
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Antonio Brown ended with him doing cartwheels off

628
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: the Jets field. Now, it did help them win a

629
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year. Antonio Brown was good, but it

630
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: was those two guys. So whenever I see that this

631
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: guy wants a bigger hand in the organization, like I've

632
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 1: in you know, in my life, I've been a part

633
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: of these free agent and draft meetings. You have to

634
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: watch so many players ranked them, get a feel for

635
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: the market, Like you can't just be like I want

636
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: who do you want? Well? Do you know how much

637
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna cost? You know how much cap room we have?

638
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: Are you sure he's better than X, Y and Z.

639
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: Have you studied these other guys. I think it's very like, yeah,

640
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: I want Rob Gronkowski, Well, no, ship me too, I

641
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: want you know, uh Amari Cooper, Like, yeah, those are easy.

642
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: Everyone knows. The separation happens in football on the margins,

643
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, in the mid rounds, signing a guy, signing

644
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: the three million dollar player, everyone knows, you know, the

645
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: high end million dollar guy, Like everyone knew the moment

646
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals got Hopkins, they were stealing like that

647
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: you got him for a second round pick, that that

648
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 1: that was a no brainer. So I think Russell Wilson

649
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: of lives in this fantasy land because he sees these

650
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: other guys like, yeah, do you have a Randall Cobby

651
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 1: you want back? Well, Schneider and Pete would have coached

652
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: or signed him because they've been there the whole time

653
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: with you, So who is that player? I I think

654
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: it's such easy headlines, and I understand like Russell thinks this,

655
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: But I think in reality and uh actual, the function

656
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: behind it and putting this into uh like into motion

657
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: doesn't really make that much sense unless, hey, instead of

658
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: going on vacation all the march in February, you want

659
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: to come to the combine. If you want to come

660
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: to the combine. Hell, Russell, you can come to the

661
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: combine and interview some of the draft picks if you

662
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: want to. We'd be glad to have you here. We'd

663
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: love to have you. You don't want to do that.

664
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: So if you don't want to do that, you just

665
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: want to like play GM like mirror you playing fantasy football.

666
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: That's not the way it works. And ultimately, the NFL

667
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: is not the NBA. We don't really have to kiss

668
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: your ass. You're under contract for several years. We we

669
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: want to win too, like we are trying to accumulate

670
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: the most good players as humanly possible. But like, okay,

671
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: you want to get traded, Well, what if we don't

672
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: want to trade you? So I think a lot of

673
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: these these become headlines and you just end up having

674
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: to talk about it because it's a guy like Rogers,

675
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: it's a guy like Russell Wilson. But nothing ever happens,

676
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: And ultimately I think a major difference probably in Seattle

677
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: than what happened in Green Bay. Like Aaron Rodgers did

678
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: not like Gouda Kins for whatever reason. I still struggled

679
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: to quite figure that out. But like they did not

680
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: see I that doesn't necessarily feel like Pete and John

681
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: they're not buddies. It just feels like Russell wants you

682
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: before you sign someone, you to text him. You're like, like,

683
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: he's Lebron James. Let's face it, Lebron James also the

684
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: guy that wanted Russell Westbrook. Every time I look up,

685
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: the Lakers are getting their ask kicked because they traded

686
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: for a guy making forty five million dollars that couldn't

687
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: hit water if he was sitting on a boat. So

688
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: this notion that all these players know what they're talking

689
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: about when it comes to player acquisition, it's just patently false.

690
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the history of sports shows that

691
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: if players were able to pick the players forever, Joe Burrow, Naylan,

692
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase, there are a lot of mrs. So I

693
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: just interested to know exactly what he wants, because if

694
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: he wants to pick draft picks, watch the entire draft

695
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: class and then ranked the players. And then the hell,

696
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: if I was John Snider, I would I would take

697
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: your input for sure. And the last thing I just

698
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: saw the New York Giants UM put out that they

699
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: had interviewed Adam Peters, the assistant forty niner GM, and

700
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about this, Like five six

701
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: years ago, when I left radio, I went into business

702
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: for myself, and I had to do so much stuff

703
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: with partners that I had never done before. I had

704
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: never I had worked in football, and then I had

705
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: worked in radio. But when I worked in radio, I

706
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the selling of everything. I

707
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the production of anything. I

708
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: just talked, that's it. I had evaluated football players and

709
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: I had talked about football. Those were the only things

710
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: I had done for a living up until I was

711
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: thirty years old. Well, when you go into business, you

712
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: have no choice, Like if you want to eat, you

713
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: gotta go make some money. So you just like, how

714
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: are you gonna get any money? Well, you gotta sell something,

715
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: So you just figure it out as you go either

716
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: sink or swim or else. You just gotta go back

717
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: and go sell printers, or you go sell cars or something.

718
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: I had to figure it out, and at first it

719
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: was very, very difficult. And then over time, you do

720
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: your first deal, maybe it's three or four thousand dollars,

721
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: it's a huge high, and then you realize, well, this

722
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: isn't gonna sustain. You have to do more and more,

723
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: and the numbers just keep growing and you get more

724
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: and more confident. Right you go to a five figure deal.

725
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: Then things start going well. You signed a six figure

726
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: deal and you're like, oh, you get these advertisers and

727
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 1: you just you keep leveraging things. But you get more

728
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: confident as you do stuff. You are better off five, six, eight,

729
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: ten years later than when you started. That's human nature.

730
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: We improve through experiences. When you don't know how to

731
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: do anything. I'm a big believer and just go try it,

732
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: Just go do it, find out if you can. It

733
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: turns out I can sell, and I didn't know I could.

734
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: I actually kind of resented it my whole life. But

735
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: when I was thrown into a part of it, I

736
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: didn't have a choice. I had to figure it out

737
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: where else I was not gonna eat, or I had

738
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: to go get a real job. And I refused to

739
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: get a real job. So I figured it out, and

740
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: as times gone, I've gotten very very confident. I know

741
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: that I can find money. I'm good at it, but

742
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know that five years ago. Just like a

743
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: lot of coaches and general managers. They are like a

744
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: big reason I say this all the time. Like Kyle

745
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: Shanahan got hired young, same with Sean McVeigh. They had

746
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: been in the league for over a decade. Kyle Shannah

747
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: had been calling plays for nine years, nine years before

748
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: hired him, so while he was in his late thirties,

749
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: he had been doing it for a long period of time.

750
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: For example, Joe Judge, same deal, gets hired. You know

751
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: it is mid to late thirties. He had never called plays,

752
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: he had only run the special teams. He had had

753
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: was an assistant wide receiver coach for one year and

754
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: knew nothing about defense. Kind of not shocking that he

755
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: was over his head. I don't think we value enough

756
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: when in these interviews like what is your experience? How

757
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: long have you been in the NFL. One of my

758
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: issues with Brandon Staley beside him just talking a bunch

759
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: of madness, making no sense with a lot of his

760
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: press conferences, uh, and just knowing exactly what the media

761
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: wants to hear, is he wasn't in the NFL very long.

762
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: If he had been in the NFL for fifteen years,

763
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: even if he had only been for a coordinator for

764
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: one I'd be like, you know what, he'd been around

765
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people. He had worked at John Carroll

766
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: before he ever came to the league, so he had

767
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: been here for such a short period of time. You know,

768
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: that's just by the time Belichick got hired to be

769
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: a head coach in whatever nine, his first year in

770
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: the NFL was nineteen seventy five, So Belichick had been

771
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: in the league for like sixteen seventeen years, on top

772
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: of obviously being a coordinator for a very very successful team.

773
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: Like I watched Adam Peters. Now I've known Adams since

774
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: I was a g A at Fresnent State. But I go,

775
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: if I was a GM, look, or if I was

776
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: an owner looking for a GM, I'd go, well, let's

777
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 1: look at Adam Peters resume. He's been in a league

778
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: for eight teen years as he worked for successful places. Well,

779
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: he got hired by the New England Patriots out of

780
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: the use, out of u c l A, where he played.

781
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: What happened was a part of multiple Super Bowl champions

782
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: You know, worked in house, worked in the college realm.

783
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: Then John Elway started running the Broncos. He hired Adam Peters.

784
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: He helped him be a part of multiple teams that

785
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: went to Super Bowls. Then what happened John Elway. Kyle

786
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: Shanahan takes over up John Elway Hall of Famer now

787
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: turned out to be a pretty good personnel guy hires

788
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: Adam Peters. Now Adam Peters went to a Super Bowl

789
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: with three different teams, three different teams. He's seen what

790
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, championships and building a championship culture looks like.

791
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: And I don't think we value that stuff enough. It's like, Oh,

792
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: this guy is the hot name. It's because these agents

793
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: are funneling these reporters these names. No one has any

794
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: clue that does anyone really know what Kellen Moore does

795
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: every day? And I'm not a Kellen Moore hater, but

796
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: I think everyone just you know that you get this

797
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: hype train, and once the hype train starts, there's no

798
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: slowing it down, even though we don't truly know if

799
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: these guys are good, bad, What are they like every day?

800
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: What is their true experience? How long have they been

801
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: in the league. You do not how long they've been

802
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: in the league. But sometimes times these these names just

803
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: catch on the life of their own, and you get

804
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: these guys that have no business being in position, and

805
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: obviously interviewing matters, right, There's some people listening interview really well.

806
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: Some people listening interview very very poorly. And if you

807
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: interview one thing I heard about Joe Judge, you went

808
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: to that interview and he crushed it, even though when

809
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: you looked at his resume, is like, you're hiring this

810
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: guy to be your head coach, and some guys are

811
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: gonna interview very poorly. Bruce Arian said for years like

812
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't a great interview because he was very blunt.

813
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: He didn't want to play politics. He just told you this,

814
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: this sucks, This sucks. You need upgrade here, And a

815
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of owners and general managers don't

816
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: want to hear that, and so it's like, what are

817
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: we really looking for? And I think the reason most

818
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: of these teams don't even know what they're looking for

819
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: in a general manager, in a head coach, at least

820
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: with a head you know, hiring a coach, you know

821
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: somewhat like if they've coordinated what success they've had with

822
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: with general managers, you have absolutely I remember when I

823
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: got fired in the NFL, I'm like I've been writing

824
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: up players for the last three or four years. Who

825
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: outside of my own building has any clue if I

826
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. I'm not a public figure.

827
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: My my reports are not public. I remember it was

828
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 1: kind of scary. I'm like, no, no one even knows

829
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: if I'm good bad, I could be the best or

830
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: war scout. Ever, no one knows, or at least if

831
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: you're a coch And you know, scouts don't make as

832
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: much money as coaches, so it's like I don't even

833
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: have any money, and then no one knows if I

834
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: if I know what I'm doing. And I think you

835
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: see all these guys interviewing in these GM jobs, and

836
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: you go, do you have any clue if this guy

837
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: can evaluate? And here's the other thing. There are gonna

838
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: be elements of the guy's job that it's like life,

839
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: like any time you upgrade a position, there are gonna

840
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: be things you're not ready for and you have to

841
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: grow on the job. I saw I read this thing

842
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: on CNBC. They tweeted it out. Like Jeff Bezos, the

843
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: two questions he asked when he was interviewing people like

844
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, like building this company. And I think

845
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: one of the questions was just like, what are your

846
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: career ambitions? And the other one was obviously they were

847
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: based in Seattle, Washington. His question was how many bottles

848
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Speaker 1: of water do you think there are in the greater

849
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: Seattle area? And it's just a crazy curveball question, but

850
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't no one knows the answer. He just wants

851
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: to see your mindset, how you problem solve and kind

852
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: of how you take a curveball question and just attack

853
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: it and you write it up on the white board

854
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: kind of your thinking. And there to me are elements

855
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: of like you want to ask some of these guys

856
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: what's the craziest thing they've been through? But a lot

857
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: of times, if you're an assistant GM or college scouting director,

858
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: you know, like when a guy on your team gets

859
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: a d u I or something bad happens in the organization,

860
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: you don't really do much Like it's on the head

861
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: coach and the general manager, so there is no getting

862
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: ready for those situations. You just kind of gotta hope

863
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: that the more experience the guy has, the more confident

864
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: he can be in those spots. And I think that

865
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: definitely carries over for coaches as well. Okay, let's dive

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00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: into the middle coffin mail bag. Uh, let's look into

867
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: what is going on up in these d M s. Hey, John,

868
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm a big L. S U fan and now a

869
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: big Bengals fan. Watching the end of the Bengals Raider game,

870
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: I noticed something that made me a little confused. Up seven.

871
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: The Bengals had a fourth and one inside the fifteen

872
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: yard line and tried to get the Raiders to jump offsides,

873
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: and when Joe saw they weren't gonna do it, they

874
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: called the time out. It ended up not mattering, and

875
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: they kicked the field goal to go up ten. But

876
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: why would they waste the time out when the field

877
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: goal would be virtually the same if they would have

878
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: just taken the five yard delay of game penalty. I

879
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: feel the same way when teams waste time outs in

880
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: the first or second downs. Your thoughts, it's a good question.

881
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: I I don't know the exact scenario thinking off the

882
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: top of my head, but I mean, I mean, in

883
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: that game, I know the scenario that happens. It's an

884
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: easy one with punts, right, A lot of times you

885
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: do it like the fifty yard line, you take the

886
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: delay of game. You have no problem taking the delay

887
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: a game with punting, I think with field goals, I'm

888
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: with you. If it's like you said, the fifteen yard line,

889
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, you know fifteen is ten, so that's you're

890
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: talking thirty two or thirty seven yard field goal. It's

891
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: not that big a deal. It's it's a waste of

892
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: a time out. Now, did that happen in the second half.

893
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: I've watched so much football since that game, I kind

894
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: of forget. But I'm with you. If it's like the

895
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: ten yard line, I would take to de lay a

896
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: game in the second half. If it's the first half,

897
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: I understand. But coaches are just they're kind of stuck

898
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: in their ways on that one, and they love calling

899
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: that time out for the field goal. Matt, I don't

900
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: know how you can hate on Kirk Cousins. You praise

901
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: Herbert for throwing all these touchdowns and being the brightest

902
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: butt on the Chargers, But did you know that Kirk

903
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: Cousins thrown nearly seventy touchdown passes the last two seasons.

904
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: I believe he's the biggest asset to the Vikings. I

905
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: do not hate Kirk Cousins. I actually think kirk Cousins

906
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: is solid. Now do I love Kirk Cousins. At thirty

907
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year, I do not or thirty

908
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell he's making. He makes a little

909
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: too much money. Why I think he's a solid NFL player, Yes, do.

910
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: I think he's somewhere between like nine and fifteen and

911
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: you can win games with him, as you've seen the

912
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: Vikings have gone to the playoffs with him. I do,

913
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: But he's paid like a top end guy would anyone. Obviously,

914
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is a better player and makes dramatically less money,

915
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: but at the same dollar figure, whether it was five

916
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: million dollars or thirty five million dollars, you would rather

917
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: have Justin Herbert. Is he one of the best assets

918
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Speaker 1: on the team. I think that's debatable. I think your

919
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: best asset is Justin Jefferson. Uh, but his Cousins an asset.

920
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: Could you trade him? Uh? Maybe? But what could you

921
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: get for him? And then who would play quarterback for you?

922
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: So I I am not a Kirk Cousins hater, but

923
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: I also have not like some you know, loyalists to him.

924
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: I think he is properly rated. He's not as bad

925
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: as people think, and when he's good, he's not as

926
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Speaker 1: good as people think. Looks like the Vikings have requested

927
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: to interview Demiko for their head coach. Seems pretty quick

928
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: after just one year as our DC. I talked about

929
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: this earlier with uh, you know, with guys being ready,

930
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: I would say the one thing that unique about Demiko

931
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: is I was with the Eagles when we traded for him.

932
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Speaker 1: Demiko was like a twelve year NFL VET, and he

933
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: was immediately a team captain in the NFL. Like Demiko

934
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: is a high, high level guy. So when you played

935
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: at a high level and you were the team captain

936
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: slash defensive signal caller, like, you know, you're a little

937
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: head of the game. Like guys like Demiko, Ryan and

938
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Speaker 1: Mike Raybell, you know what, they don't need to put

939
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: in as much time coaching as some of these other

940
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Speaker 1: guys that just are done playing, like Sean McVeigh had

941
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Speaker 1: to immediately go into coaching at two years old, say

942
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: with Kyle Janahan, so their their time they put in

943
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: working their way up is Demiko's equivalent when he was coaching. Now,

944
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: he's only been a coordinator for one year, but Demiko

945
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: has been calling defenses for a decade. Right with the

946
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator and building the defensive game plans throughout the

947
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: week with the staff. I think Demiko's kind of unik.

948
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: I Demko is a high level, high level dude, the

949
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: high level dude. I think Demiko is legit. Now you know,

950
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: one year coordinating, I'll tell you this, I'd rather have

951
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: Demko is my head coach over Brandon Staley. I know

952
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: that I love the pod. No rain, no sleet, no snow,

953
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: and no omicron can stop it too short questions that

954
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: was funny? Do you think the ending of San Francisco

955
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: at Dallas adds confusion to Jerry's decision heading in the

956
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: off season? The Cowboys get dominated at the Dallas narrative

957
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: has turned into if only the refs hadn't screwed us?

958
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: Is that really a narrative going on? Like the forty

959
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: Niners came up, the game started and that first drive

960
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: was basically like, hey Dallas, we're here to beat the

961
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: living ship out of you, and Mike McCarthy's like, yeah,

962
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: no problem. My teams are usually pretty soft and we're

963
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: gonna commit a bunch of penalties. The referees had Dak

964
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: Prescott screwed up the end of the game, the referee

965
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: has to spot the ball. Did you see where they

966
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: spotted the ball and where Dex slid. The Cowboys gave

967
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: themselves like three or four extra yards, like you're not

968
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: allowed to do that. The referees. They also overturned the

969
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: first down. The debot was pretty damn close the referees

970
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: that Dallas got worked. Dallas was a Jimmy garoppolo interception

971
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: away from a full on old school ass whooping. That

972
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: was hey, Mike McCarthy, Kyle Shanahan's kicking your ass up

973
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: and down the field. In the same situation, if Dak

974
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: runs up the middle and then laterals to a wide

975
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: receiver who runs with it to the sideline and the

976
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: ball goes out of bounds, the lateral wouldn't stop. The

977
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: clock just stop and there would be no need to

978
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: rush to reset. Yeah, I mean, I to me, you

979
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: cannot do what they did with fourteen seconds. The rules

980
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: pretty clear, the going you know kind of rule that

981
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: teams in high school college. I guess college a little

982
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: different because if you get a first down, this clock stops,

983
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 1: but in the pros it's about eighteen seconds. He did

984
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: it with fourteen seconds, and he took off like seventeen yards. Like, Bro,

985
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: you don't have that much time. I thought it was

986
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: just kind of stupid on their part. Should have done

987
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: a couple of plays before. Do you ever say constructive

988
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: negative things about a player or team just to motivate

989
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: them to be better? Right now, I'm particularly thinking about

990
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: this Cowboy forty niner game? Are you all the negative

991
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: comments about Dallas will motivate them? I mean, I don't.

992
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: My comments don't matter to players or coaches. That's that's

993
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: their own problem. Uh. I don't know, man, I mean,

994
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: you just you gotta play better, you gotta be smarter.

995
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean, if comments really motivate you and listen, we

996
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: all get motivated in different ways, but at the highest

997
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: level of any perfecsion, Like ultimately, the reason Brady kicks

998
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: everyone's ass is not because of other people's comments, is

999
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: because because intrinsically he's motivated every single morning at five o'clock,

1000
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: he's out of bed every single day when it's time

1001
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: to eat, he's eating healthy food, like as he doesn't

1002
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: get that from newspapers. Newspapers don't, I mean blogs or

1003
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, podcasts, you get cut burns deep inside, like

1004
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: you either want to jump off sides or you don't

1005
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: want to jump off signs, Like, let's face it, Randy Gregory.

1006
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: I saw a good tweet like Randy Gregory was, you know,

1007
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 1: a pretty questionable human being, Like back to his junior

1008
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: college days, he's not the most reliable guy. So when

1009
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: he's jumping off sides every other play in the game, like,

1010
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: that's on Randy Gregory. Now, he's very talented. He's a

1011
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: long you can rush the pastor and you know everyone

1012
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: in football's like, that's what I want. He's six four

1013
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: long ass arms you can bend. He's explosive. Yeah, he

1014
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: jumps off sides every other fucking play, and when the

1015
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: games matter in January and the margins are small, and

1016
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 1: yet fourteen penalties, which I think I heard someone say

1017
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: it was like second to being an all time record

1018
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Like that's son, Jerry, you know you're

1019
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: gonna have players like that. What's the comments? Stupid and

1020
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: loses more games than smart wins. The Cowboys were just

1021
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: they were reckless, they were dumb. There was a play

1022
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: when like CD wasn't set and he just like whatever

1023
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: tapped himself went out the game. It's just it felt

1024
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: very Mike McCarthy, it really did. I'm a new listener

1025
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: to the pot and a big fan. I'm also a

1026
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: big uv A fan, and I was wondering what your

1027
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: take is on this. With the arrival of highly touted

1028
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: offensive mine Tony Elliott, the long time offensive coordinator for Clemson,

1029
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: a potentially new sixty five million dollar facility, money flowing

1030
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: in Virginia, and the young talented receiving courts. Do you

1031
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: think University of Virginia has what it takes to contend

1032
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: for a CC championships or has the program hit a ceiling? Well?

1033
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: I do think Clemson's gonna bounce back. I think Mario

1034
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: is going to recruit very good players. I think Florida

1035
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: State sucks. I think NC States pretty solid. I think

1036
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: Pitt and nar Doozy has done a good job, but

1037
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: they're losing an NFL quarterback. Like I I think, if

1038
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: this guy is good and you never know, we see

1039
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: all the time coordinators go to become head coaches and

1040
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 1: they and they fail. But I would say this guy

1041
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: has coach with Dabbo or a decade or whatever, knows

1042
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: the landscape of the conference very very well. Uh. I

1043
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,959
Speaker 1: do think they recruit. You know, a little different guy,

1044
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: probably than Clemson. Right, academics are big at Virginia. If

1045
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: you could win nine games and be competing to go

1046
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: to the a CEC Championship Game every year, I think

1047
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: you're a starhead coach of Virginia. But I'd be lying

1048
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: if I said I knew. I don't know much about

1049
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: Tony Elliott. Beside, he's just been a star coordinator for

1050
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: Demo and people really like him, and he's turned down

1051
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: jobs like Venables for years. So I think I think

1052
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: I have a couple of questions, and it's less about Virginia.

1053
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: It's more about like, it's Clemson gonna bounce back, and

1054
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: we saw they had a crappy year. They went ten

1055
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: and three. Is Miami gonna be really relevant because I

1056
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: believe they are because Mario is gonna get players in

1057
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: there now. Is he a great coach? I don't know,

1058
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: but they're gonna have a way more talent than they've

1059
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: had now. The rest of the a SEC kind of sucks.

1060
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: So as the diehard Giants fan, since I was first

1061
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: able to watch football, the last eight years have been terrible.

1062
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: I haven't been this down since Ray Hanley was the

1063
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: head coach. If I was the owner, I'd get an experienced,

1064
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: younger GM and go throw all the money at Jim Harbaugh.

1065
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? I agree to me, I don't

1066
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: think Jim Harbaugh would take the New York Giants job

1067
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: just you know. To me, if he feels like he's

1068
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: coming back to the NFL, he's gonna go to the

1069
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: Bears or the Raiders, And I specifically think the Raider.

1070
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be the raiders next head coach.

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00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: To me, who makes a lot of sense for the Giants?

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00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I would get a young, up and

1073
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: coming GM. Hire Brian Flores, Hire a guy that just

1074
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: knows how to be a head coach. McAdoo over his head.

1075
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: Schirmer just awful, and Joe Judge just had no business

1076
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: being a head coach. To me, Brian Flores makes a

1077
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: lot of sense. When I closed my eyes, I envisioned

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00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: Brian Flores wearing the Giants gear. Tough guy, kind of

1079
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: even though he's young. Like I said, he's kind of angry.

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00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 1: He's kind of got Coughlin parcels to him. Uh I

1081
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: he's he's I think he's a New York guy. Um,

1082
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: I like Brian Flores a lot there to me, that

1083
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Just listen to your floors.

1084
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: Judge being angry and the ship was spot on, funny

1085
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: as hell and true. They're mad because they have an

1086
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: iPhone twelve and not a thirteen trying to copy Bill.

1087
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: And again I hated comparing Flora's to Judge. They have

1088
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: nothing in common in terms of one guy one on

1089
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: the one guy won nineteen games Judge. Judge's team was

1090
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: so gutless the last especially this year. I mean it was.

1091
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: It was pretty embarrassing. But part of like in my job,

1092
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: let's face it, I'm a podcaster, I work my home studio.

1093
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: I don't really have to get along with that many people.

1094
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I deal with some producers and I do

1095
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 1: get along because I'm a good guy. But like when

1096
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: you're a head coach, you are dealing with people on

1097
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: a daily basis, and Belichick and Saban, Let's face it,

1098
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: everyone the building can hate him. Nothing anyone can do.

1099
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: When you're Brian Flores, like, you do have to manage

1100
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: up and down a little bit, you know, I don't.

1101
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: You don't need everyone to like you, but you do

1102
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: need to make an effort to get along with some people,

1103
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: and that is clearly something that these Belichick guys are

1104
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: just not great at. Like you can't just be sol

1105
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: and the only guy you're potentially nice to is the owner.

1106
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: This is not gonna work that, That would be my advice.

1107
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm off. Maybe Flora is getting a bat

1108
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 1: raw deal and he's a nice guy. It's not quite

1109
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: the way it feels. Huge fan felt a little bit

1110
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: of a reach on your blind floor as being such

1111
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: an angry guy point compared to other generations the last part.

1112
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: I've lived in the New York City area my whole life.

1113
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: Brown's Ville, where Flores is from, is one of the

1114
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: roughest and most dangerous neighborhoods in the Northeast. I don't

1115
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: know how his upbringing is otherwise, but it has a feeling.

1116
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, Your upbringing is allowed to shape you. Right,

1117
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: He's forty years old, he's making six seven million, he's

1118
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Miami Dolphins and now potentially

1119
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: another team. Like, I'm sorry what happened in Like is

1120
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: it truly that relevant on most things that he's going

1121
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: through every day? Again, Like, you're allowed I get angry.

1122
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: I I was raised you know, I kind of come

1123
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: from an angry environment. I get it. Not like I

1124
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: didn't grow up in the hood or anything. But I'm

1125
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, my dad lost his brother in

1126
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: Vietnam's just just some demons that you don't shake, and

1127
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: you know your kids kind of bear some of that,

1128
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: which is human nature. But like, I don't get to

1129
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: use that excuse now at thirty seven years old, Like

1130
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: there are excuses you get to make to a certain

1131
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: point in time once you heard of age. Like again,

1132
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: you're allowed to have on three days, you're allowed to

1133
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: be piste off. But if you're angry seven when you're

1134
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: making seven million dollars and you win a game, like

1135
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's just like, well, it's not that especially

1136
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: you've worked in the league for two decades, you've been

1137
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: making big cash for a while. Your life isn't that bad. Now,

1138
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: You're just not allowed to be mad on a daily basis.

1139
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: I I just I adamantly believe that, and that will

1140
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: not change regardless whether you grew up in the country

1141
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: club or whether you grew up in the slums. Like

1142
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: once you've been living a good life for a while,

1143
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: and your profession. But that's the thing, your profession. Like

1144
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: you're the head coach, everyone's looking at you like your

1145
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: energy matters. And I got news for you. Belichick and

1146
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: Saban aren't actually that angry all the time. And I'm

1147
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: not even saying floras is, but you got to get

1148
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: along with people. And this goes back to MAINI, Josh McDaniels, Patricia,

1149
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: they all grew up differently, but they're also fucking mean.

1150
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: It's just it works if you're Belichick and you're gonna

1151
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: give six rings over two decades. It does not work

1152
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: if you're winning four games a year. And I Floor

1153
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: has won some games, but clearly the GM backstabbed him,

1154
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: and maybe the GM is just a bad guy who

1155
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: claims to be a good guy and just a backstabber survivor,

1156
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: which in the NFL there are a lot of those,

1157
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: because Chris Greer, in what world, in any other profession

1158
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: with that guy make two million dollars and that goes

1159
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: for most gms. There aren't that many jobs w two

1160
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: jobs that pay to three million dollars. What are you

1161
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: gonna be the CFO for fucking Wells Fargo. There's only

1162
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: one of the there aren't that many jobs, but in

1163
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: the NFL there are thirty two GM jobs and they

1164
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: pay a premium, Like how many people do you know

1165
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: that aren't like famous? That makes seven figures W two

1166
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: that's every GM does so I and obviously coaches making

1167
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: a lot more. So there is like they're very territorial.

1168
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: I hate that. I'm not even trying to crush Flores.

1169
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: My point is that I do think he has to

1170
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: be careful of not just trying to copy Bill, and

1171
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: I like I'm saying, I think Flores is a completely

1172
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: different universe. Like Joe Judge never should have been a

1173
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: head coach. Clearly Brian Flores can be a head coach,

1174
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: but for him to be really successful, I do think

1175
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: he has to attempt to just not copy Bill with

1176
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: in terms of just being angry, because I think we

1177
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: have a lot of evidence now every single guy that

1178
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: leaves New England all kind of acts the same and

1179
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: it wears people out, and let's face it, it has

1180
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: not worked. Mike Frabel is the one guy, and let's

1181
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: face it, he did not coach there, he played there,

1182
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: and Mike Frabel seems actually kind of fun. Had want

1183
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: toy out Mike Fabel, You're allowed to yell at people

1184
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: when they screw up. He does. No one says like

1185
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm pro yelling. I'm pro screaming at people. That's called

1186
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: football coaching. But just every and I don't. You don't

1187
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: need to be Pete Carroll or Andy Reid every day.

1188
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: But there there has to be some happy medium of

1189
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: this is two tho the players. This is not you know,

1190
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: Nichkey butt kissing Lawrence Taylor. They got humans are wired

1191
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: a little bit different. A big fan of the Pod,

1192
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: dedicated listener from Canada, just wondering if you think the

1193
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: NFL would ever bring a team to Toronto. That's a

1194
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: great question, and you know, I can't really give you

1195
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: an educated answer. My gut would say no. My gut

1196
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: would say they're not expanding into Canada. If they expand

1197
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: into another continent or excuse me, another country, Uh, it

1198
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: would probably be the UK, would be my guests. But

1199
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: it's like, is the NFL and some big rush to

1200
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: really expand right now? I don't think so. Clearly, the

1201
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: Bills aren't going anywhere if the Colts move off. Carson Wentz,

1202
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: what do you think is the most realistic option for

1203
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: them at quarterback draft class. Isn't that deep that they're

1204
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: not Carson Wentz to your quarterback next year? Unless I

1205
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: think it would be something crazy would have to happen.

1206
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. Just look at the look at the cap number,

1207
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: the dead cap that they just traded a first round

1208
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: pick for him. The Eagles get their first round pick.

1209
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is the starting quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts.

1210
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: Like it or not. Obviously, if you're a fan, you

1211
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: don't love it, but he's your quarterback next year. Now,

1212
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: next year might be his last year, but Carson Wentz,

1213
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: if he's healthy Week one, is going to be the

1214
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: starting quarterback two for the Indianapolis Colts. That's what happens

1215
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: when he trade a first round pick for a guy.

1216
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: You know, it sucks when he doesn't. He's not good enough,

1217
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: but that's just that's the you know, the hand they played,

1218
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: and it was you know, it's really their only option.

1219
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: They didn't have any other options. I can't shoot on

1220
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: them for that. I can't, but he's going to be

1221
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: their quarterback next year. Appreciate everyone listening me Some Middlecoff

1222
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: mail back questions at John Middlecoff Fire in those d

1223
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: m s and UM talk to you guys later this week.

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Speaker 1: Peace the Volume