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Speaker 3: This is the Daily Children.
Speaker 4: With your host Jordan Level.
Speaker 5: What the Daily Show, Good blude, But we got so
Speaker 5: much to talk about. Tonight, Kamala makes her final arguments.
Speaker 5: Trump gives a final BJ and you're nervous about who's
Speaker 5: going to win the election, don't worry. We're just gonna
Speaker 5: tell you. So let's get into it. Indecision twenty twenty four. Guys,
Speaker 5: Tomorrow is the big day at Long Last.
Speaker 6: Tilda's Witten's birthday.
Speaker 5: She's turning ageless, so congrats to her. Tomorrow is also
Speaker 5: election day, and look, I'm not in the prediction business,
Speaker 5: but I still think Joe Biden can pull this off.
Speaker 5: But meanwhile, Donald Trump and Kamala Harris have both been
Speaker 5: making their closing arguments.
Speaker 6: For Kamala, it's a.
Speaker 5: Message of unity, hope, and check out who my friends are.
Speaker 7: A Megawatt all star lineup on the trail.
Speaker 6: You can see some of the scenes right there on
Speaker 6: her screen.
Speaker 5: Performances from musicians like Mumford and Sons and Bracy Abrams.
Speaker 6: She has Glilla out here.
Speaker 8: She has Cardi B, who wasn't even going to vote
Speaker 8: four months.
Speaker 1: Ago, making a surprise appearance on Saturday Night Live playing
Speaker 1: the mirror image of actress Maya Rudolph's version of her.
Speaker 1: She is leaning on some big names like Katy Perry, Oprah,
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga, Ricky Martin, The Roots, and others to help
Speaker 1: get her across the finish line.
Speaker 5: Lady gog I, Katy Perry, Ricky Martin, if you stole
Speaker 5: their album on LimeWire, they're probably endorsing Kamala Harris.
Speaker 6: She's coming for every.
Speaker 4: Last Soul cycle.
Speaker 6: Vote now well.
Speaker 5: Kamala is ending the campaign on a note of joy
Speaker 5: and celebrity hype. Donald Trump's closing argument is that he's
Speaker 5: pissed at basically everyone.
Speaker 9: Do you want to see me knock the hell out
Speaker 9: of people backstage? You's gotta get a bunch of crooks
Speaker 9: and horrible people. She's a dumb person. Guys like Adam
Speaker 9: Shifty Shift. You'll probably be a senator. Can you believe it?
Speaker 4: Watermelon Head?
Speaker 9: What an ugly guy, both inside and out. It's a
Speaker 9: very demonic party. Have this piece of glass here, and
Speaker 9: to get me somebody would have to shoot through the
Speaker 9: fake news. And I don't mind that so much.
Speaker 5: He's just casually joking about reporters getting shot.
Speaker 6: You know, I guess.
Speaker 5: You'd be grouchy too if you had to do all
Speaker 5: your campaign events and cast in glass like a stick
Speaker 5: of deodoran at Walgreens. But Trump wasn't just giving off
Speaker 5: dark vibes. He was also giving off a weird sexual energy.
Speaker 9: I came in today, I said, and you know, this
Speaker 9: is after four of these things. I've been in old fairness.
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm a human being, right, I come in
Speaker 9: and here's the problem. I said, Oh man, it's too low.
Speaker 4: I said, it's too long. I way too long, way
Speaker 4: too low.
Speaker 3: What are we doing here?
Speaker 6: People?
Speaker 5: I hate to say it, but can we please go
Speaker 5: back to the hand job routine?
Speaker 4: Please?
Speaker 5: And you know a campaign has gone off the rails
Speaker 5: when you go to watch c SPAN and it asks
Speaker 5: if you're over eighteen. But blowing a mic stand isn't
Speaker 5: even the weirdest parts of his closing message. The weirdest
Speaker 5: part is that just a few days to go, he's
Speaker 5: now telling us, oh, by the way, RFK Junior is
Speaker 5: going to do all the President's stuff.
Speaker 9: And I told a great guy RFK Junior, I said, Bobby,
Speaker 9: you work on women's health. You work on health, you
Speaker 9: work on what we eat, you work on pesticides, you
Speaker 9: work on everything. The one thing you have to let
Speaker 9: me do, Bobby, I gotta work the liquid gold. You're
Speaker 9: not going to touch that.
Speaker 6: You're not gonna touch yet. No, let me work the
Speaker 6: liquid gold. Bobby, let me work it. Let me work it. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 6: let me get this straight.
Speaker 5: So you're gonna give RFK women's health, regular health, food, pesticides,
Speaker 5: and quote everything, and in return, you're just gonna suck
Speaker 5: all the oil out of the ground. This this is
Speaker 5: a lot of new shit to drop on us the
Speaker 5: day before election day. You spent two years talking about tariffs,
Speaker 5: and now you're like, oh, by the way, the guy
Speaker 5: with brain worms is in charge of everybody's health. You
Speaker 5: need me, I'll be in Texas working the drills.
Speaker 6: You know, you might be thinking Trump.
Speaker 5: Is just talking out of his ass, But but RFK
Speaker 5: Junior doesn't think so, because, unlike getting rid of a
Speaker 5: bear corpse, he's put a lot of thought into this.
Speaker 10: Over the weekend, Kennedy tweeted the Trump administration would quote
Speaker 10: ad buys all us water systems to remove fluoride from
Speaker 10: public water on day one. The CDC recommends fluoride in
Speaker 10: water as a cost effective way to improve oral health.
Speaker 11: Trump telling NBC News the fluoride removal idea quote sounds
Speaker 11: okay to me.
Speaker 5: This out okay, okay, this is two days before the election.
Speaker 5: We haven't talked about this at all in the last
Speaker 5: seven hundred days. But suddenly the thing that's been normal
Speaker 5: in this country for eighty years, it's like.
Speaker 6: We're gonna get rid of that on day one. I mean,
Speaker 6: where did this come from?
Speaker 5: Even the people who wrote Project twenty twenty five were like, fluoride?
Speaker 6: Did we put that in here?
Speaker 5: This whole campaign, I've been prepping for the worst case scenario,
Speaker 5: but not the weirdest case scenario. Now I gotta worry
Speaker 5: about soft teeth. You know how many Trump rallies I've
Speaker 5: been to.
Speaker 3: Do you know how many?
Speaker 4: Do you know how many?
Speaker 5: Not once did I ever hear him say people's teeth
Speaker 5: are too hard.
Speaker 6: We're gonna fix that.
Speaker 5: Look, look, Trump campaign, this is your last chance to
Speaker 5: get your message out. Surely there is someone who's staying
Speaker 5: focused on the important issues and not getting distracted like
Speaker 5: some idiot dog when it sees a squirrel.
Speaker 12: Have you seen the videos of this squirrel?
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 5: No, no, I haven't seen the videos of the squirrel.
Speaker 6: Why is that an issue?
Speaker 3: Maga.
Speaker 8: Republicans are up in arms after Peanut the Squirrel, a
Speaker 8: pet squirrel famous on social media, was seized by the
Speaker 8: New York Department of Environmental Conservation and later euthanized for
Speaker 8: biting an official.
Speaker 12: I know, Don's fired about Peanut the Squirrel. We are
Speaker 12: on the way down here from Cincinnati. He was like,
Speaker 12: you know, is it really the case that the Democrats
Speaker 12: murdered the elon musk of squirrels?
Speaker 5: But if someone adopts a baby pet squirrel, hell yeah,
Speaker 5: no justice for Peanut. Okay again everyone, we are mere
Speaker 5: hours before election day and Republicans' final messages we must
Speaker 5: avenged the death of Peanut the squirrel.
Speaker 6: Don't get me.
Speaker 5: Wrong, I'm glad Republicans finally care about police brutality.
Speaker 4: But here we.
Speaker 5: Are, with all of my world mourning the death of
Speaker 5: Penut the squirrel. Well, not RFK Junior. He already has
Speaker 5: Peanut marinating in his fridge. But so, to sum up,
Speaker 5: we are an hour from election day, we have a
Speaker 5: presidential candidate descending even further into madness, a legion of
Speaker 5: his supporters ready to follow him into battle. The capital
Speaker 5: is all boarded up and ready for a final showdown.
Speaker 5: Our kids teeth are about to fall out. The police
Speaker 5: are executing squirrels, and tomorrow is the climactic day when
Speaker 5: we discover whether Earth continues existing and it's muddled mess
Speaker 5: or we all go screaming into hell. I guess what
Speaker 5: I'm saying is, don't forget to vote. For More on
Speaker 5: the Trump campaigns closing messages, we go live to Trump
Speaker 5: campaign headquarters with political analyst Michael Costa. Michael Michael, it
Speaker 5: feels like during this final weekend, Trump was totally spirally
Speaker 5: out of control.
Speaker 2: Wrong again, Jordan out of control? Donald Trump is totally
Speaker 2: spiraling in of control.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 2: He's not wreck less, he's wreck full. He's not the
Speaker 2: mayor of crazytown. He's the sheriff of saying, diego you
Speaker 2: following this?
Speaker 5: I'm not following that at all? Or are you saying
Speaker 5: you say Trump is being rational here? He spent the
Speaker 5: final weekend on the campaign just ranting about issues that
Speaker 5: voters don't care.
Speaker 2: About, well, issues that most voters don't care about think
Speaker 2: about it, Dan. Voters who care about normal issues have
Speaker 2: already voted early. Some of them voted weeks ago at
Speaker 2: this point there, I voted, stickers are more torn up
Speaker 2: than my nipples after yesterday's marathon.
Speaker 6: You ran the marathon? No, but I like to watch
Speaker 6: it like this.
Speaker 2: The point is there are still people who haven't voted yet,
Speaker 2: people political science academics to as the freaks. Okay, they're
Speaker 2: the ones with hyper specific, freaky single issues. Fluoride in
Speaker 2: the water, civil rights for squirrels, a man's right to
Speaker 2: give a consenting microphone a blowjob, and Donald Trump is
Speaker 2: speaking to and or sucking off these issues.
Speaker 5: There can't be people who decide a president, who decide
Speaker 5: who they want to be the president based on those
Speaker 5: weird issues.
Speaker 2: Sure, it's no different than people who vote based on
Speaker 2: the price of eggs. I mean to me, that's weird.
Speaker 2: Why eggs? There are a million other foods. There's jello
Speaker 2: or jello or I can't think of other foods. But
Speaker 2: you get what I'm saying, Michael.
Speaker 5: If this is such a good strategy, why isn't commonly
Speaker 5: doing it?
Speaker 2: She is She's at an event with Katy Perry as
Speaker 2: we speak, Why to lock down the two or three
Speaker 2: freaks who like Katy Perry's new album Jello Jello?
Speaker 4: Did I say Jello?
Speaker 6: You only said Jello?
Speaker 7: Good?
Speaker 2: Good point is the voters who wait until the very end,
Speaker 2: by definition, have the most leverage, so they can say
Speaker 2: whatever they want and get it from the candidates. That's
Speaker 2: why Jordan to make my vote be the most powerful.
Speaker 2: I'll be voting after the election.
Speaker 6: No, then then your vote won't count. That's stupid.
Speaker 2: Non fat jello jello pops, strawberry jello. See, these are
Speaker 2: all totally different foods.
Speaker 6: Now, who's stupid? Okay, very insightful, Michael cost everyone.
Speaker 13: We come back, we'll find out who're going to win tomorrow.
Speaker 13: They'll go away all about the Daily Show.
Speaker 5: If you want to know who's going to win the election,
Speaker 5: polls aren't the only way to predict the future.
Speaker 6: Great Coolige Bick has more.
Speaker 7: The election is so close and mistakes are so hot.
Speaker 3: I feel like I can't think about anything else.
Speaker 7: Can someone just tell me what's going to happen so
Speaker 7: I can chill the fuck out?
Speaker 8: Presidential race that dead heat, deadlocked at exactly forty eight percent.
Speaker 2: Got Trump up two points, Harris with a three point advantage.
Speaker 6: Maybe Trump up a.
Speaker 4: Point or two, Harris up five four.
Speaker 6: Everything you're about.
Speaker 13: To see is within the.
Speaker 7: Margin of ara in margin arra, So what do these
Speaker 7: numbers mean? I could do the a beautiful mind thing,
Speaker 7: but maybe it's just quicker to talk to an expert. Anthony,
Speaker 7: who the fuck is going to win this election?
Speaker 14: I can tell you that this race is effectively tied,
Speaker 14: has been for a while in all the polls. There
Speaker 14: are so few undecided voters who say they may or
Speaker 14: may not vote, and they'll probably decide this.
Speaker 7: Okay, thank you for all of this information.
Speaker 3: It's been really helpful.
Speaker 7: I'm wondering who is going to.
Speaker 1: Win the election.
Speaker 11: I can't tell you that.
Speaker 7: Do you think that polls are the best way to
Speaker 7: predict elections?
Speaker 14: Well, poles tell you what people are thinking now, and
Speaker 14: more importantly, they show you why people are thinking it.
Speaker 3: But what do we know about people?
Speaker 4: They sometimes change their minds?
Speaker 7: Right, So this morning, for example, I was at a diner.
Speaker 7: I know what I want, It's going to be two eggs,
Speaker 7: scrambled sausage, potatoes. But it was eleven thirty, so I
Speaker 7: was seriously tempted to get a chicken sees a wrap
Speaker 7: and that's basically exactly what you do.
Speaker 14: Not really, but it does underline the idea that people
Speaker 14: can make different decisions at different times.
Speaker 7: Can you just blink once if it's going to be
Speaker 7: the person that I want it to be, Okay, that's a.
Speaker 2: Really bad sign.
Speaker 7: So, despite that being their only job, the polls can't
Speaker 7: tell us who is going to win. Fortunately, there is
Speaker 7: someone who has called nine out of ten of the
Speaker 7: last elections using a system of thirteen questions about the
Speaker 7: economy and the electorate.
Speaker 15: I don't pay attention to the polls. They're snapshots, not predictors.
Speaker 15: My system, the Thirteen Keys to the White House, examines
Speaker 15: the fundamental forces that drive presidential elections.
Speaker 7: So how did you settle on thirteen keys?
Speaker 15: Using pattern recognition every election from eighteen sixty to nineteen eighty?
Speaker 7: Why not fourteen?
Speaker 4: Could have been any number?
Speaker 7: Why not fifteen?
Speaker 15: I love all those numbers, but the big messages it's governing,
Speaker 15: not campaigning that counts that. The elector as a whole,
Speaker 15: ask whether the administration has done a good enough job
Speaker 15: for four more years or they.
Speaker 6: Want to make a change.
Speaker 7: So allan what is your prediction for this election twenty
Speaker 7: twenty four?
Speaker 15: The keys indicate that Kamala Harris will become the first
Speaker 15: woman president of the US.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 7: Alan's track record is solid, but he did make one
Speaker 7: popsy in two thousand.
Speaker 15: People say I got Florida wrong because I was calling Gore,
Speaker 15: and in fact Bush ultimately won. I say I was
Speaker 15: correct because Florida way disproportionately rejected ballots cast by African Americans.
Speaker 7: So your system works perfectly unless someone is stealing an election. Yes,
Speaker 7: thank god, that won't happen, right, right, Okay, So is
Speaker 7: there one other reliable method for predicting the election?
Speaker 16: So election results are a perfect thing for astrology to forgit.
Speaker 16: The position of the planets when you're born influences a
Speaker 16: person's personality and how their life unfolds.
Speaker 7: And Amy has been amazingly accurate in some of her predictions,
Speaker 7: like naming the exact date that Joe Biden stepped down.
Speaker 16: There is a full moon coming up that was in
Speaker 16: Capricorn at twenty nine degrees, and twenty nine degrees represents
Speaker 16: an ending and Capricorn represents old age, So I just
Speaker 16: put together that he was going to drop out.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 12: That makes sense.
Speaker 7: Actually, so what are your current predictions for the twenty
Speaker 7: twenty four election?
Speaker 16: I predict Kamala is gonna win the presidector.
Speaker 7: So basically with this election, what you're saying is that
Speaker 7: Kamala's chart just looks more powerful than Donald Trump's.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Donald Trump's chart is giving desire for power and control
Speaker 16: and Kamala's chart is giving more following her life path
Speaker 16: than what she's meant to do.
Speaker 7: So is it real? Is astrology real?
Speaker 16: Yes?
Speaker 9: It's very real?
Speaker 16: Okay, very real.
Speaker 7: The stars had made a clear prediction for the election,
Speaker 7: but what could they predict about something that really mattered?
Speaker 7: Like me?
Speaker 16: I do see a wealth aspect in your chart.
Speaker 7: That's a fabulous news.
Speaker 16: And Trump's a Gemini and you have a lot of
Speaker 16: Gemini energy.
Speaker 7: So you would say Trump and I are similar.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Actually, your venus is on his son, so you might
Speaker 16: would fall in love with him.
Speaker 7: My v is on his what?
Speaker 16: No, this is a marriage aspect.
Speaker 7: Actually changes everything. Are you gonna tell my girlfriend or
Speaker 7: am I?
Speaker 16: But for Trump, it's not outside the realm of possibility
Speaker 16: that he goes to jail.
Speaker 7: So my husband is going to jail. Yeah, but I'll
Speaker 7: be wealthy.
Speaker 16: Yeah, okay, good, you're gonna have the money.
Speaker 6: I am loving astrology.
Speaker 7: There you have it. But with both the stars and
Speaker 7: history predicting the future, do we even need to vote?
Speaker 12: Ah?
Speaker 15: Here's the thing. The keys are based on history, and
Speaker 15: if people don't vote, you're going to break the.
Speaker 4: Pattern of history.
Speaker 3: So I have to vote.
Speaker 5: You must vote.
Speaker 15: I don't care who you vote for, but you must vote.
Speaker 6: You're such a leo.
Speaker 4: I'm not a lyo metaurus.
Speaker 7: Let's cut that part out.
Speaker 17: I'll come back and I'm sure if you're joining me
Speaker 17: on the show, don't go away.
Speaker 5: Well in the back of the Daily you have my
Speaker 5: guest tonight is an author and staff writer at The Atlantic,
Speaker 5: whose piece in the latest issue is called the right
Speaker 5: Wing Plan to make Everyone an Informant.
Speaker 6: Please welcome, Adam Serwer.
Speaker 4: Adam, I'm excited to get you.
Speaker 5: You're one of my favorite writers covering this strange moment
Speaker 5: we are in. And you had a new piece just
Speaker 5: dropped today? Is that what happens with new pieces?
Speaker 6: Do they drop?
Speaker 5: Is it like a new song? As a journalist, you
Speaker 5: say I dropped a new piece today.
Speaker 3: Only when we want to sound really cool, I.
Speaker 5: Was gonna say, try it.
Speaker 3: I just dropped a new piece today.
Speaker 6: Good, this is the audience for it. Yes, your new piece.
Speaker 5: Trump's followers are living in a dark fantasy.
Speaker 6: I just read it.
Speaker 5: You talk about going to Trump rallies. I've been to
Speaker 5: a thousand Trump rallies and you've gone to them over
Speaker 5: the years. I'm curious what you've noticed recently and how
Speaker 5: if you've noticed any sort of change.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you know what's really different about the
Speaker 11: rallies now? And I think you know, I think it's
Speaker 11: important to recognize, you know, we're coming out of a
Speaker 11: difficult economic moment because of high inflation, because of the
Speaker 11: end of pandemic. But what's happened is there is a
Speaker 11: sort of universe of unreality that they're living in in
Speaker 11: which everything bad that is happening in America at this
Speaker 11: moment is the fault of immigrants and illegal immigration. And
Speaker 11: that is primarily because that's what Donald Trump and JD.
Speaker 11: Vance are telling them, and so they I have this
Speaker 11: idea that you know, if Trump comes in, he's going
Speaker 11: to take all this money that's being spent on these
Speaker 11: illegal immigrants that you know, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden
Speaker 11: are bringing in and spending all this money on They're
Speaker 11: going to take that money and they're going to spend
Speaker 11: it on them instead, and that's really not what the
Speaker 11: agenda is.
Speaker 3: And so to me, I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 5: Do you find is that different than what you noticed
Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I think the sort of comprehensive universe
Speaker 11: of unreality that these people are living in is distinct.
Speaker 11: And I think we saw how dangerous that kind of conspiratorial,
Speaker 11: conspiratorial universe can be on January sixth in twenty twenty.
Speaker 11: But if anything, it's only gotten worse. People are in
Speaker 11: a kind of conspiratorial bubble where they think that they
Speaker 11: are being victimized by things that are not happening. And
Speaker 11: this is not to say that people are not suffering
Speaker 11: from real economic hardships, but the reasons they are being
Speaker 11: given on for those things are not the actual reasons.
Speaker 5: Now you talk about the three circles of the mind
Speaker 5: universe here, did you notice it broken down in three
Speaker 5: kind of types of people who were becoming and are
Speaker 5: fervent Trump supporters.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I think there's the people who would
Speaker 11: staff a Trump administration and they have a very specific
Speaker 11: policy agenda that I think is actually distinct from what
Speaker 11: a lot of the people who go to these rallies
Speaker 11: think is going to happen, because when they go to
Speaker 11: these rallies, you know what Trump says, what his warm
Speaker 11: up speakers say, is that Harris and Biden are spending
Speaker 11: all this money on illegal immigrants, and your life is
Speaker 11: getting harder. But we're going to take all that money
Speaker 11: and we're going to spend it on you instead. And
Speaker 11: that's not really what their plan is. So I think
Speaker 11: there's a sort of the circle around Trump, his sort
Speaker 11: of policy advisors, his activists, those types of people. They
Speaker 11: understand what the actual policy agenda is, which is a
Speaker 11: very traditional policy agenda of redistributing income upward, of cutting healthcare,
Speaker 11: of you know, shrinking the welfare state in order to
Speaker 11: you know, cut taxes for the wealthy.
Speaker 5: The ones who benefit primarily from that as well. That's
Speaker 5: like the Elon Musk live in that that first circle precisely.
Speaker 11: And you know there's this other circle, these people who
Speaker 11: are true believers who show up the Trump rallies and
Speaker 11: they love Trump and they believe that he is fighting
Speaker 11: for them and that when he deals with all these
Speaker 11: people they have been told of their enemies, they're going
Speaker 11: to have much easier lives. And then there's sort of,
Speaker 11: you know, the I would people A would describe as
Speaker 11: a sort of medium Republican voter who you know, they
Speaker 11: may not love Trump, but they are conservative. You know,
Speaker 11: they're they're anti abortion, maybe they own a business, you know,
Speaker 11: they want to they want lower taxes, they have conservative principles,
Speaker 11: and they sort of are talking themselves into voting for
Speaker 11: Trump by dismissing, you know, the things that he has done,
Speaker 11: by saying, you know Jan six, Okay, fine, you know
Speaker 11: it was bad, but the media is exaggerating. You know, yeah,
Speaker 11: he says a lot of colorful things, but you know,
Speaker 11: politicians lie all the time. They sort of rationalize, you know,
Speaker 11: what Trump is, who is he? You know, he is
Speaker 11: a uniquely dangerous person. You know, I don't think every
Speaker 11: Republican is like Trump. But they sort of dismissed this
Speaker 11: because they want to give themselves permission to vote for
Speaker 11: him anyway. And I think those are the three elements
Speaker 11: of what I would describe as the Trump coalition. And
Speaker 11: I think, you know, tomorrow we're going to find out
Speaker 11: just how big those three circles are now.
Speaker 5: You wrote a very influential and thoughtful piece called The
Speaker 5: Cruelty Is the Point in twenty eighteen sort of articulated
Speaker 5: this MAGA movement and people finding community around the cruelty
Speaker 5: that Trump espoused and some of his some of his
Speaker 5: actions that wasn't a byproduct of conservative values, but sort
Speaker 5: of the cruelty was what people did rally around. We
Speaker 5: are we are now years past that. Have we become
Speaker 5: comfortable with that cruelty? How is that cruelty changed?
Speaker 11: I think that, you know, one of the attack lines
Speaker 11: that the Harris campaign has been using has been saying, oh, well,
Speaker 11: you know, people lead the Trump rallies early and this
Speaker 11: sort of drives Trump insane. Now, to be clear, those
Speaker 11: people who are leaving, you know, those are Trump super fans.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 11: The way someone else put it to me was like,
Speaker 11: you know, people with season tickets leave games early too,
Speaker 11: So you know, these are people who really love Trump.
Speaker 6: But tradition, those teams aren't winning very often either.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's true, Yes, that's true.
Speaker 11: But I think that, you know, part of it is
Speaker 11: just that they're not totally there for him. I mean,
Speaker 11: he gives What he gives them is permission to act
Speaker 11: out in ways that other people might judge them for
Speaker 11: in a space where it's okay to do that, Where
Speaker 11: in a space where it's okay to be cruel, it's
Speaker 11: okay to be you know, nasty about the people that
Speaker 11: you don't like or that you hate and fear. But
Speaker 11: I think that, you know, a lot of times people
Speaker 11: are shown up because they want to be around other
Speaker 11: people who think like them.
Speaker 3: They want to feel less alone.
Speaker 11: And I think that's, you know, that part of it
Speaker 11: is very human, and we're pretty much you know, we're
Speaker 11: all social animals, We're all like that. I think that,
Speaker 11: you know, the problem is obviously that it's centered around
Speaker 11: this man who has authoritarian ambition and authoritarian ambitions and
Speaker 11: is willing to create this sort of fictional universe in
Speaker 11: order to manipulate people into doing, you know, justifying terrible things.
Speaker 5: I think you talk a little bit in this most
Speaker 5: recent article about the MSG rally and the comedian who
Speaker 5: came on and told a joke that belittle Puerto Rico,
Speaker 5: called Puerto Rico garbage, and there was an uproar around
Speaker 5: this conversation. But I think what it was speaking to
Speaker 5: was what the sensibility in that room was who he
Speaker 5: was appealing to.
Speaker 6: And I think as somebody who goes to.
Speaker 5: So many of these rallies, so many of these rallies, Uh,
Speaker 5: there's a there's a trolling sensibility there. The T shirts
Speaker 5: that you see are as mean as possible. They're belittling
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris calling her uh uh uh.
Speaker 6: Joe.
Speaker 5: And the hoe was a big T shirt that they had.
Speaker 5: Like the idea of being a troll is celebrated there.
Speaker 5: That's part of the fun. There's there's an ecstasy in
Speaker 5: the cruel see that happens at these events, all right.
Speaker 11: They get to say the things that you know, people
Speaker 11: might judge them for saying if they said them, you know,
Speaker 11: at their workplace or you know, among their friends, depending
Speaker 11: on who their friends are. But in you know, in
Speaker 11: this space, they get to say it and you know,
Speaker 11: Trump will encourage it and they laugh at it and
Speaker 11: everybody would will have a good time. And so you know,
Speaker 11: I just think, you know that part of it certainly
Speaker 11: has not changed, But there is something different about the
Speaker 11: degree to which people are making decisions on the basis
Speaker 11: of things that simply are not happening. You know, when
Speaker 11: you talk about this, this sort of this conspiracy about
Speaker 11: Harris and Biden flying in undocumented immigrants from other countries
Speaker 11: in order to sign them up to vote.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just not a thing that's happening.
Speaker 11: But they do not have any compunctions about telling people
Speaker 11: these things, because that kind of that's what justifies, you know,
Speaker 11: these the sort of conspiratorial world that they've created, justifies
Speaker 11: you know, some sort of radical action, like say, trying
Speaker 11: to overturn an American election, because after all, there are
Speaker 11: these shadowy elites who are trying to destroy, you know,
Speaker 11: the world as you know it.
Speaker 6: Do you know who those elites are, Well, one.
Speaker 3: Of them is me.
Speaker 11: Obviously, I'm obviously a part of you just shadowy.
Speaker 3: Elite, I know it.
Speaker 5: You win people over when you say, you drop an
Speaker 5: article and everybody makes you're cool, and suddenly you have
Speaker 5: all that power.
Speaker 3: And suddenly you know, I'm a member of the illuminati.
Speaker 5: You have another article that's in the most recent prededition
Speaker 5: of the Atlantic that talks about this Republican informant state
Speaker 5: turning everybody into an informant.
Speaker 6: What is that? What is this the snitch state that
Speaker 6: you're speaking.
Speaker 3: To well, I think you know, before Roe v.
Speaker 11: Wade was overturned, there was this Texas band that was
Speaker 11: passed and you know, I live in Texas, I live
Speaker 11: in San Antonio. Uh and this this band that was
Speaker 11: passed that was based on the idea that you know,
Speaker 11: if you uh had a you could file lawsuit in
Speaker 11: court over someone aiding or a betting an abortion and
Speaker 11: you could get ten thousand dollars for that. Now, that
Speaker 11: is a law that sort of incentivizes snitching. It's a
Speaker 11: snitch law. And what we found is like laws in
Speaker 11: Texas and in other conservative states.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can look at Florida.
Speaker 11: They sort of incentivize this informing on people for things
Speaker 11: that conservatives think should not be acceptable and whether that's
Speaker 11: you know, in some cases they you know, you talk
Speaker 11: about school curriculums or not just abortion, but discussing abortion.
Speaker 11: You know, a law like that is not just about
Speaker 11: making sure people don't have abortions, but it's about making
Speaker 11: sure people don't discuss them. Because you don't want somebody
Speaker 11: to sue you or sue someone you love on the
Speaker 11: basis of the fact that you you know, paid for
Speaker 11: the uber that took them to the airport that they
Speaker 11: went then got on a plane and went to Colorado
Speaker 11: to get an abortion because they couldn't get basic health
Speaker 11: care in their home state. And you know, especially a
Speaker 11: couple of years ago, Abbot pat put out this executive
Speaker 11: order defining gender firming care for children as child abuse,
Speaker 11: which led to you know, people, you know, it's one
Speaker 11: of the examples that was given to me was that
Speaker 11: a girl who was dressing in a gender nonconforming way,
Speaker 11: somebody you know, reported her, even though she wasn't even
Speaker 11: actually trans, she was just you know, wearing pants or something.
Speaker 11: And this is the kind of you know, this, this
Speaker 11: is the kind of environment that those laws create where
Speaker 11: it incentivizes these laws incentivize people to snitch on their
Speaker 11: friends and neighbors, you know, in the hopes of recreating
Speaker 11: stigmas that I think, you know, are no longer in
Speaker 11: society in the way that they once were. Obviously, it
Speaker 11: was once very stigmatizing to have had an abortion, It
Speaker 11: was very you know it we're not that far off
Speaker 11: from where it was not all right to be out
Speaker 11: as a gay person in American society, you know, or
Speaker 11: for example, we we.
Speaker 3: Are not two. I mean, it's been four years.
Speaker 11: But the racial justice protests that happened in twenty twenty
Speaker 11: brought out a lot of ideas that some people would
Speaker 11: rather not discuss and would rather be shoved, you know,
Speaker 11: back into the dark. And so what you can do
Speaker 11: is you can't necessarily argue people out of believing those things,
Speaker 11: but you can pass a law that says, you know,
Speaker 11: you're not allowed to bring a book by tan Ossikots
Speaker 11: into the classroom, otherwise you might get fired.
Speaker 5: Although, did you see this news about Peanuts the squirrel
Speaker 5: and finally Republicans are standing up to police brutality. Do
Speaker 5: you feel like that is that's progress?
Speaker 11: You know, I love animals, and I'm very sad about
Speaker 11: Peanut the squirrel, But I really wish that the people
Speaker 11: who are very angry about Peanut the squirrel could extend
Speaker 11: some of that empathy for you know, someone like Tom
Speaker 11: or Rice who gets killed by the police.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if you know this tomorrow's election day.
Speaker 5: What I know has been anxious. Yeah, you got you
Speaker 5: got to watch the.
Speaker 3: News man, I'm not paying attention.
Speaker 5: You gotta pay. This's why I think they need to
Speaker 5: extend it. They need to be running for president for
Speaker 5: longer than what they've been because important people like you
Speaker 5: have no idea to happen.
Speaker 3: At least two and a half years of election.
Speaker 6: Three four.
Speaker 11: You know what's bad is like that's sort of what
Speaker 11: we have now, Like it's pretty awful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think over Trump has been running for over
Speaker 5: seven hundred days for president Knights.
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say years, to be honest.
Speaker 6: Meals like that. What do you think's gonna happen tomorrow?
Speaker 11: I have no idea and I don't think anybody else
Speaker 11: knows either. If people are telling you that they know,
Speaker 11: I think they're not telling you the truth. You have
Speaker 11: the polling which is pointing towards a very tight race,
Speaker 11: and you have non polling indicators that are saying maybe
Speaker 11: there's a little more bit more of an advantage for Harris.
Speaker 11: But the fact is, you know, people are trying to
Speaker 11: read tea leaves from the early vote, and that doesn't
Speaker 11: really work. The truth is we're not going to know
Speaker 11: what's going to happen until it happens, and everything. Most
Speaker 11: of the things that are, you know, most of the
Speaker 11: things that we're seeing right now point towards a very
Speaker 11: close race where it could go either way. Even if
Speaker 11: that map ends up looking very red or very blue,
Speaker 11: it's it's going to be you know, it's not going
Speaker 11: to be by a whole lot of votes, if that
Speaker 11: makes any sense. The Unfortunately, the way the electoral College
Speaker 11: works is a few votes and a few states can
Speaker 11: swing the thing one way or the other.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so who knows. But if you don't live in
Speaker 5: seven states, it doesn't matter what you do.
Speaker 6: Fortunately not America, Baby.
Speaker 5: Check out check out Autam's fates, the November issue of
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