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Speaker 1: Everybody. It's Thursday, March twentieth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where March Madness has a

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Speaker 1: different meaning. It's me your man, NAMG Marcus Grand joined

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Speaker 1: by Michael ah Florio and Lawan Jones. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: straight up with you guys, like we are recording this show.

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Speaker 1: It is just after ten am Pacific time on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I do have two of the tournament games up on

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Speaker 1: the side window here with me both, so I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you guys now, I'm telling the listeners right now.

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Speaker 1: If at some point, I, you know, sort of lose

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Speaker 1: my train of thought, I get distracted, it's probably because

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Speaker 1: something's happening in one of these games. I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: my prediction for the first game of the tournament is

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Speaker 1: not going well. We'll leave it at that. How it

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Speaker 1: knows it blows up in the first round. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's either great or it's terrible, like on the first day.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see how this thing goes. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you, guys.

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Speaker 2: I have watched more college basketball in the last week

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Speaker 2: than I did the four months prior.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, because you know, all of a sudden you

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Speaker 1: want to be an expert on high points.

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Speaker 2: I fully admit I know nothing, but the tournament is

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Speaker 2: such a fun.

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Speaker 1: Time of year. It is you know, this this weekend,

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Speaker 1: I think coming up this Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, the

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Speaker 1: first weekend of the tournament is maybe the best sustained

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Speaker 1: for sporting days on the American calendar. I think it is.

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Speaker 1: I get it. The level of basketball is not what

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Speaker 1: you get in the NBA. That's fine, but the excitement,

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Speaker 1: the you know, the kind of the pageantry of it

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Speaker 1: is great. A right, more competitive.

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Speaker 2: They're less skilled, like that jumps out immediately, but they're

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Speaker 2: more physical, They're they're hustling harder, and like this is

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Speaker 2: every game is like a game seven to them. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: the competition.

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Speaker 1: Level is peak, yeah, for sure along those lines. Look,

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Speaker 1: it's it's late in March, right, we are pretty much

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Speaker 1: through free agency. I know there's a few guys still

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Speaker 1: kind of hanging out there that may sign. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're past the combine. The draft is still a little

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Speaker 1: more than a month away. It's sort of a slow period.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we could have sat here and

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Speaker 1: you know, Dug through analytics on you know, mistackles forced

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Speaker 1: for running backs or something like that. But I figure

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Speaker 1: the tournaments going, why not do something fun? So I

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Speaker 1: decided that we would do a bracket of the top

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Speaker 1: fantasy rookie quarterback seasons since the year two thousand. I

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Speaker 1: thought about doing like all time, but I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would maybe dig us back into some guys that

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe we didn't really watch a whole lot

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Speaker 1: or you know whatever. So I fantasy that's true. So

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Speaker 1: I capped at two thousand, and you know, we'll go

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Speaker 1: from there. So we'll kind of I set up an

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Speaker 1: eight team right player bracket, I guess, And so you

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Speaker 1: know that's gonna be a show today. We're gonna dive

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Speaker 1: through this, We're gonna make our picks. We're also gonna

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Speaker 1: put these out on Twitter. X exeters, we're still calling

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Speaker 1: the Twitter man, I'm not saying X fuck. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: fine with that. Putting it out on social media. You

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Speaker 1: guys can vote. And so what we'll do is every

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Speaker 1: week we'll update it so well the first round that

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Speaker 1: you guys can vote on this week, the winners obviously

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Speaker 1: will advance, and then in a few weeks we will

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Speaker 1: crown who is who had the greatest fantasy rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: season since the year two thousand. So just a little

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Speaker 1: something fun to do on the show today, because look,

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Speaker 1: I get it, you guys are hungry for stats, but

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: You could have asked me we could do a whole

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Speaker 1: segment on severn so and I would have been down

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Speaker 1: season finale tonight looking forward to it should be a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. I can't wait to binge it. You should,

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Speaker 1: you sul absolutely bing I mean after today the season's over,

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Speaker 1: you might just go and knock out both seasons. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'll just say in a weekend. But you got kids,

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Speaker 1: so you know, over the over the course, it's like

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Speaker 1: you can nag it out.

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Speaker 2: I'll just say this, it is so good that I

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Speaker 2: I'm already rewatching season two and it hasn't even ended yet. Wow.

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Speaker 1: That's dedication. That is kind of deep.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Wow, it's my favorite show by far on TV

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Speaker 3: I've only done that with a couple of shows, so

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Speaker 3: that definitely gets put at the top, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like, Wow, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great show. For sure. There are some

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Speaker 1: no pleasure in reading this headline, but we must. The

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Speaker 1: Vikings have said they are not pursuing Aaron Rodgers, and

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Speaker 1: they are rejecting calls for trade offers about JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: So it seems that for the moment, the Vikings are

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Speaker 1: ready to go with McCarthy as their starter. Florida. We

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Speaker 1: about the fact that we were all very surprised that

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy was drafted in our fantasy draft in the

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Speaker 1: fourteenth Rone. And I don't think Rogers was. I don't

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Speaker 1: I would ask you, though, I mean, with this seeming

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Speaker 1: the Viking said they're not necessarily in or out on Rogers.

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Speaker 1: They haven't made a decision on their own. They're just,

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Speaker 1: you know, basically like we're not texting you anymore until

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Speaker 1: you figure out what you want to do with your

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Speaker 1: life sort of thing. Would you feel comfortable or where

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Speaker 1: would you feel comfortable drafting JJ McCarthy at this point.

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Speaker 2: I still think he's a low end QB two, but

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Speaker 2: he's got upside there, right, So, like there's always upside

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Speaker 2: in the unknown, because look at what Sam Donald was

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Speaker 2: this time last year, like they would be like, why

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Speaker 1: He doesn't know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 2: But like the weapons in Minnesota, the system, I trust

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Speaker 2: Koc so much. He man he was getting numbers out

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Speaker 2: I just think it's a one of the most fantasy

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Speaker 1: It's like remember when.

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Speaker 1: So there's upside there.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of how I feel with JJ McCarthy, Like

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Speaker 2: it's JJ McCarthy, the unknown upside guys, then I'm willing

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Speaker 2: a little pleasure in you reading that headline because over

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Speaker 2: the weekend, when all this Rogers news was coming out,

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Speaker 2: I tweeted like, if I'm the Vikings, JJ McCarthy greater

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Speaker 2: signed Aaron Rodgers And let me tell.

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Speaker 1: You, people in my mentions.

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Speaker 2: Like compare his stats to Josh Allen and and all

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Speaker 2: this stuff, Like people still believe that Aaron Rodgers can

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Speaker 1: And I just don't see it where. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about Eli. I mean we're talking

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Speaker 1: where you believe. Aaron Rodgers right now is the Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers that was the MVP earlier in his career, right what?

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Speaker 1: What you know? Obviously two years ago he played four snaps.

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Speaker 1: just is so I mean, ego driven, ego centric. It's

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Speaker 1: it's so much about Aaron Rodgers right now that it

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Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like that's what you want for a

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't make sense at all. When did this

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Speaker 2: Oh, once they took Jordan Love, he went off the

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Speaker 1: I mean, it just sort of makes you what I mean,

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Speaker 1: you gotta think though, this was always sort of in him, right,

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Speaker 1: there are two wolves inside all of us, and this

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Speaker 2: No, he had a reputation of not being the best

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's probably fair to say. One

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Speaker 1: was gonna ask you should or Sanders or JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 2: I'll take the shot on JJ, just because I know

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Speaker 1: Really good, Like Sanders could end up with the Giants

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Speaker 1: that's fair. So Quan, I know how you feel about TJ.

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Speaker 1: Howkinson that you're just sort of out on him generally. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, assuming this is JJ McCarthy, I'm assuming you're

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Speaker 3: Then I'm okay on Addison, like because like he's not

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Speaker 3: getting pushed up in ADP in drafts, like even in

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Speaker 3: bestball leagues, he's falling like pretty late, So it's not

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Speaker 3: like you're taking that high risk now. Hawk on the

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Speaker 3: Hock always gets pulled up for some reason. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how JJ's going to be able to support all

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Speaker 3: so it's gonna have to be distributed between Addison and Hockinson.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I think I'm kind of with you

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Speaker 2: Does it give you the team that the people that

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Speaker 2: I'm telling it all to you guys.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean it could be.

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Speaker 3: And Daniel Jones left because Daniel Jones definitely had an

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Speaker 1: There's an automatic you know there's illegal contact, So now

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Speaker 1: it's third and seven. I feel like you're getting to

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Speaker 1: Am I am I wishing wish casting this too hard

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Speaker 1: or what?

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Speaker 2: I could see that.

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Speaker 3: But if you're getting the automatic first down and you're

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Speaker 1: You're getting, Yes, but we're not getting the yards, Like

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Speaker 1: that's the thing, all right, we're not but you're getting

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Speaker 2: But you get three plays instead of one if you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see it both ways, Like it can go

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Speaker 3: I rather six points for my wide receiver and then

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't like this rule person. Really.

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Speaker 2: I see your point about more plays, more opportunities.

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Speaker 2: I haven't really waited how I would feel about it

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Speaker 2: all right, I'll give up five yards rather than give

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Speaker 1: So I think you say that now already, right, like,

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Speaker 1: should be It's just sort of be like college, because

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Speaker 1: Like that's a major penalty, right, Yeah, that should be

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Speaker 1: you know whatever spot of the foul, an automatic first

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Speaker 2: I do like this because there's way too many tiki

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Speaker 2: tach I think I like your proposal better than the

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Speaker 2: Lions proposal, Okay, because there's too many tiki tak stuff

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Speaker 2: that changes games chiefs, Right, there's a lot. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of actual times where I'm watching where I'm like, no,

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Speaker 2: and ones like that, I think you should get rewarded

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Speaker 1: I like that a lot. Yeah, we gotta get MG

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Speaker 1: in the office. We got we gotta get in enough there. Also,

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Speaker 1: I want I want for my pass catcher to get

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Speaker 1: the penalty yards for fantasy.

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Speaker 4: Greedy man, whether we give them the fantasy yards or

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Speaker 4: it's like a point or two points. Like drawing a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will absolutely hate if I lose by one

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Speaker 1: Is it worse than losing by like half a point

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Speaker 1: worse than that? Know what? It's all bad for fantasy?

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Speaker 2: Kneel downs should not be negative rushing yards. You could

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Speaker 1: I like that idea, Like that's that's dumb.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it should be negative rushing yards for

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Speaker 3: We're gonna penalize quarterbacks for sack yards too, Like there's

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Speaker 3: Like no, let's just keep fantasy.

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Speaker 2: I think that's more fair than because a lot of

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Speaker 1: Cool with going all the way. Like no, I hate

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Speaker 1: that league. I think we should just have a rules show.

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Speaker 1: We should have like an episode of this show where

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Speaker 2: Here's something I've I've thought for. I think PPR should

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Speaker 2: If you catch a pass that's like, I like that

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Speaker 1: I like that I can get that with that, because

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Speaker 1: throws there's usually no defender near you just don't box it, man,

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Speaker 1: like a joint like that. That sucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, A rule show would be very fun.

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Speaker 1: A rule show would be very fun. We should we

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Speaker 1: should think about that. We should do that. It's not

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Speaker 1: in season two of Netflix's Quarterback Show, Joe Burrow, Jerry Goff,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Do we really need more Kirk Cousins he

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Speaker 3: I need to see the benching, Like I kind of

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Speaker 2: You know what's ironic. Not only was Kirk Cousins in

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Speaker 1: That's right, So Marcus, that's right.

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Speaker 2: They're like, oh, he's going to Hawaii now, Like, oh wow,

436
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: that's wild.

437
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just saw that. Listen. I'm like, I mean, look,

438
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is kind of interesting. I mean, Jared Goff

439
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 1: is fine.

440
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 3: Like I think I would like golf in this because

441
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 3: he's like through the years, he's.

442
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: Been showing more and more personality. Like I got drafted.

443
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: He did hard knocks. He didn't know said in the West,

444
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: and like, bro, you're from California. How do you how

445
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 1: do you not know this? You're from California? Man, Like.

446
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 3: I feel like now like he'll give us more and

447
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 3: like he'll start showing more persons because he seems like

448
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 3: he's just really really happy with his situation right now.

449
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: So he should be. He should be.

450
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: I mean there's nothing in life that that has gone

451
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 2: wrong for him.

452
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 3: I mean when he's winning off field as well on

453
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Speaker 3: and off.

454
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Speaker 1: Field, Like he's in a place where, like, you know,

455
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 1: the team loves him, the fans love him, he's having

456
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,479
Speaker 1: a success. It's hard to not be happy if you're

457
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: Jared Goff for sure, But yeah, I just love Kirk Cousins.

458
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't. I don't think he's that interesting.

459
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 2: If they do season three, I want like I want

460
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 2: young qbs right like I want Jayden, I want Caleb

461
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: Williams like Sanders, Like, let's learn about these guys.

462
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 3: They should just do rookies, so like rookie running backs,

463
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 3: rookie quarterbacks, like I would love to see like just rookies.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

465
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Speaker 1: I feel like at this point there's not much mystery

466
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Speaker 1: with Shador Sanders. We sort of know everything that's going

467
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: on with Shador. Oh. Yeah, he's been on our face

468
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: for like three years. Yeah, good batter in different We

469
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: know a lot about Shadur. Maybe yeah, maybe cam.

470
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Speaker 2: Ward, we can find out weekly where he ranks and

471
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Speaker 2: in the and his father's rankings. Yeah, Marcus, you can't

472
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: really only have one, but l Q do you rank

473
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Speaker 2: them weekly?

474
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Speaker 1: Uh No, I mean I could start. I mean put

475
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Speaker 1: the rankings on the fridge so that they know that

476
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Speaker 1: straighten up. You know, I could start doing that. Hey,

477
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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, that that number one rankings now

478
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: it's so.

479
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Speaker 3: Strong right now, Like you know, last summer we did

480
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 3: a star system though, and like I might bring that

481
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Speaker 3: back and just change it the rankings, like we those Like, yeah,

482
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Speaker 3: we're gonna bring them rankings back.

483
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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

484
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Speaker 2: Do they alternate PPR and standard?

485
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, points per room cleaning? That's what it is. Yeah, yeah, folks,

486
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: it's a March show. What do you want from us?

487
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Speaker 1: I'll take a break. Speaking of rankings, we're gonna come back.

488
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Speaker 1: We're gonna dour our fantasy Rookie QB bracket that we

489
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Speaker 1: go through some of the top rookie seasons since two

490
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Speaker 1: thousand and we'll put together little tournament bracket for it.

491
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Speaker 1: And you guys can vote, remember on social media, so

492
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Speaker 1: go check that out. We'll die through these next the

493
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Speaker 1: top half of the bracket on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So,

494
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Speaker 1: of course, you know, if you are any measure of

495
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Speaker 1: sports fan, you know the n C two A tournament

496
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Speaker 1: has started officially today because no one counts the first

497
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: four in nobody counts those games, so the actual tournament

498
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Speaker 1: has started today. I'm sure a lot of you are

499
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Speaker 1: involved in all sorts of fun extracurricular activities around this thing.

500
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: We decided we do our own bracket, because you know,

501
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: never let the NFL not glom onto somebody else's supporting

502
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: experience and do their own thing with it. So I

503
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: went and I looked up the top eight fantasy rookie

504
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: quarterback season since the year two thousand and I seeded

505
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: them according to total points. But I figure we could

506
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Speaker 1: talk those through because I want to also talk about

507
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Speaker 1: some of the skill position guys they played with, because

508
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: maybe that impacts your decision and maybe we get an updates,

509
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Speaker 1: an upset somewhere. So the seedings are. The number one

510
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: overall seed is Cam Newton and his twenty eleven season.

511
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Speaker 1: He will face off against the number eight seed Russell

512
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: Wilson in twenty twelve. Interesting four to five matchup. Robert

513
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: Griffin third in twenty twelve going against Bo Knicks from

514
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: this past year in twenty twenty four. Bo Nicks is

515
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: the five seed. Justin Herbert from twenty twenty is your

516
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: number three seed, Dak Prescott from twenty sixteen is the six,

517
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: and your two seed from twenty twenty four Jayden Daniels

518
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: going against Kyler Murray from twenty nineteen. So I want

519
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: to look at the first two matchups in the bracket.

520
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: Here the one seed Cam Newton from twenty eleven against

521
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Speaker 1: the eight seed Russell Wilson from twenty twelve. I quick

522
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: overview Cam Newton four and fifty one passing yards, twenty

523
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: one passing touchdowns, seventeen picks, A lot of picks for Cam.

524
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Speaker 1: He did have seven hundred and six rushing yards and

525
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: fourteen rushing touchdowns, three hundred and sixty nine point three

526
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Speaker 1: fantasy points. Russell Wilson, and I you know, Russell's rookie

527
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: season was better than I remembered it for sure. Over

528
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 1: thirty one hundred passing yards, twenty six touchdowns, ten picks,

529
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Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty nine rushing yards, four rushing touchdowns,

530
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy seven point six fantasy points. So Florio,

531
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Speaker 1: is this a cakewalk for Cam Newton or does Russ

532
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Speaker 1: have a chance in this one?

533
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Speaker 2: This is like a sixteen verse of one in my opinion,

534
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: one tournament. Sixteen should never be in a playing game.

535
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: They won their conference, they should they should be playing today.

536
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: But Cam Newton, I think there's an argument that Cam

537
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Speaker 2: Newton's rookie year is his second best season of his

538
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Speaker 2: career outside of his MVP season. Like it was the

539
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Speaker 2: only year I believe he threw for four thousand yards

540
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Speaker 2: in his career. The touchdowns passing wise weren't what we wanted,

541
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Speaker 2: but he gave us so much run.

542
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was his.

543
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 2: Only season thrown for four thousand yards. He ran for

544
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Speaker 2: over seven hundred. He finished top three as a as

545
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Speaker 2: a rookie amongst fantasy quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think.

547
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Speaker 2: Cam Newton is going to be very, very difficult to

548
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Speaker 2: dethrone in this tournament.

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it just seems like a lot And

550
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Speaker 1: I look at the guys he had with him. Now,

551
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: he had he had players with him right because he

552
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Speaker 1: had Steve Smith Senior, who went for almost fourteen hundred

553
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Speaker 1: yards and seven touchdowns I think of the backfield duo

554
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: of Jonathan Stewart and D'Angelo Williams, who combined put up

555
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: more than two thousand scrimmage yards, had twelve total touchdowns

556
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Speaker 1: between the him and then Greg Olsen, who was I

557
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: think kind of nearing the end of his career but

558
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: still was very productive five hundred and forty yards and

559
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: five and five touchdowns reg g Reg from the seventh

560
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: Floor crew. But Laku, I mean, look, does Rusk get

561
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: credit for not really having receivers that first year? I mean, yeah,

562
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that Sidney Rice is his leading

563
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: receiver that year, right, I was going to say that,

564
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: like he did not have much to work with.

565
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: But it's like he had to heavily lean on Marshawn

566
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: Lynch that season, but he still came out the gate

567
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: and hit the ground running. Like I feel like if

568
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: he wasn't going up against Cam, it will probably be

569
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Speaker 3: a better, you know, conversation amongst other quarterbacks on this bracket.

570
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 3: But it's just that Cam Newton, it was like a

571
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: cheet code that year, man, and like it was just

572
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: like impossible and like nobody has done it like Cam ever,

573
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: Like when we're talking about him mobile quarterback thrown for

574
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 3: four thousand yards, Like he's the only one to have

575
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: over five hundred rushing yards to go with that four k.

576
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 3: So it's like the dude was just unstoppable. He just dominated,

577
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 3: and like having Steve Smith put up almost fourteen hundred

578
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 3: yards is incredible to me. Like it was a highlight

579
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: reel that year. Like I went back to go watch

580
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 3: highlights of that year. That year's insane, Like I did.

581
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: I did not remember, Like I know Steve Smith was

582
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 2: very good with Cam Newton, but fourteen hundred yards, Like, god, watch.

583
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: The highlights of that seat. You're just watching it, like

584
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: like was I alive? Like was I really watching this?

585
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: In racing? This like what Cam Newton was actually doing.

586
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: Like the dude was bulldozing linebackers. We have never seen that.

587
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: Like that's why I was like, it's it's obviously he's

588
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: the one seed and Russ just gets bulldozed over in

589
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: this bracket.

590
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: Man, I'm sorry, I mean, I just I I remember

591
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: him at Auburn and just running people over in the

592
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: National Championship game, right, I mean, Cam Newton was just

593
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: straight up unstoppable. In college, he.

594
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: Became kind of a villain because he was just so

595
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: so good that people wanted to see, like who could

596
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: be who could beat him?

597
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm looking at the rest of the receiving

598
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: corps for that that team in twenty eleven. I mean, yes,

599
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: Steve Smith had a huge year, Greg Olsen had a

600
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Speaker 1: good year. The rest of us Lega Donne, right, that's

601
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: a real person. The center from the Denver Nuggets. I

602
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I never forgot about nine, but yeah, Lego

603
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: do It was like the number two wide receiver on

604
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: that team. They had like an aging Jeremy Shockey still

605
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Lafelle. Uh, we're kind of just iron and out

606
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: like he threw for four thousand yards?

607
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: Like how with that group? Yes, yeah, magical twenty eleven.

608
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Speaker 2: My least favorite draft of all time?

609
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Speaker 1: Why is that?

610
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Speaker 2: Bill said the third pick, the first two were Cam

611
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Speaker 2: Newton and Von Miller.

612
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean you ended up getting one of those

613
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Speaker 1: guys eventually.

614
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, way past his prime. Hey Cam, you want to

615
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: come back up, Josh Allen, We'll bring a full circle.

616
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: I'll say this too. The other thing about about that

617
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson season in twenty twelve, he was not well

618
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Speaker 1: when they drafted him. They had Matt Flynn, and they

619
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Speaker 1: had just paid Matt Flynn a ton of money for

620
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Speaker 1: one game. Ye, Matt Flynn was coming over from the

621
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Speaker 1: from the Green Bay Packers. Yeah, he basically had like

622
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: one one or two games where he bawled out, and

623
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: then the Seahawks gave him a whole bunch of money.

624
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: And then they drafted Russ and after like a few practices,

625
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was basically just like, Nope, you're the guy now.

626
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: That was it. He's too good, right, And then like

627
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: Matt Flynn, I think he played a handful of games

628
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: that season and then they moved on as a.

629
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: Heavy backup money though I know he wasn't that man.

630
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he can't be too too many.

631
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm still live it off of it today, i'd imagine

632
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: I would think.

633
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: So. All right, So are I think we're unanimous in

634
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: our prediction although I don't know. Are you picking the

635
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: upset here? Lakwan? I mean, I think you're making a

636
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: case for us, But are picked the upside? I can't.

637
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: I can't. It's a blowout. It's a blowout, all right.

638
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: So Cam runs away with that one in our predictions here.

639
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: That gets into the four to five, which I was

640
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: shocked to see bow Knicks landing as a five seed here,

641
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: Like I you know, I knew he had a good season,

642
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: and you know, we were all bow Leavers at some point.

643
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: I didn't think he would be a five seed, but

644
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: RG three again, I thought he'd be higher than a four,

645
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: to be honest, because I remember all the hype and

646
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: all the excitement around his rookie season. Just thirty two

647
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: hundred passing yards like an even thirty two hundred, twenty touchdowns,

648
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: five interceptions, eight hundred and fifteen rushing yards though with

649
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: seven rushing touchdowns, three hundred and seventeen and a half

650
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: fantasy points. Bon Knicks three thousand, seven hundred and seventy

651
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: five pass yards, twenty nine CDs, twelve picks, four hundred

652
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: and thirty rushing yards, four rushing touchdowns, three hundred and

653
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: six point two fantasy points. This one, Lakwan, has the

654
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: feeling of a four or five matchup. This one feels

655
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: like it really could go either way.

656
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: Listen, the upset is going to the bow Levers because bone.

657
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 5: Knicks balled out, man, Like I really was like stuck

658
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: thinking like, oh man, Archie three did ball out man,

659
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 5: And they did have Kirk Cousins, you know, in that

660
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 5: fourth round and put some fire owners.

661
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: But but RGIE three did ball out.

662
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: But bone Knicks was better for me, man, just based

663
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: on Look, you have to understand him coming into this season.

664
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: Everybody was like, he can't throw past the line of scrimmage,

665
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: he can't do this. He's played a ton of football

666
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: and all this other stuff. Sean like he put all

667
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: that to bed to be a top five Fantasy rookie

668
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: quarterback all time, all time, well since two thousand at least. Yeah,

669
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, though, it's like insane that he

670
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: went out there and do all those things that everybody

671
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: said he couldn't do.

672
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: So I think there's more of the story the impact

673
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: here for bow Knicks. So it just makes more sense

674
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: to get the ultimate upset, even though he has one

675
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: point less than Robert Griffin and played two more games.

676
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: But still looking at it at all.

677
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: It's like bo Knicks just he just cleared all the

678
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: haters and they're going to be mad he goes to

679
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: the next round.

680
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: Is is there recency bias bias Florio? Is it just

681
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: like bo Nicks Is the last thing we saw.

682
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: I, Well, no, no, I'm not gonna say it's recency bias.

683
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Lq's defending his guy because LQ is

684
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: a believer on this show, like like he's he's drafted

685
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: him in both our mocks. He's made it clear like

686
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: that is this guy, So I get it. It'd be

687
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: like if I defended Josh Allen, you know, like it's

688
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: but it's RG three for me, Like I think the

689
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: part about two extra games, like if you gave rookie

690
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: year RG three two extra games, he's sitting much higher

691
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: on this list, I think. I really, like, look, obviously

692
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: we all remember bo Nicks. We just lived it. But

693
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: like going back to what one defenses, it was harder

694
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 2: to score points twelve years ago than it is now,

695
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: but even more so, like the like RG three took

696
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: over the NFL that year, Like Andrew Luck was a

697
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: rookie that year and RG three to one Rookie of

698
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: the Year.

699
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: So I remember being.

700
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: Insanely excited for him and like very sad when he

701
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: got hurt and stuff. So if you compare his numbers

702
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: to jayde and Daniels, they're not that different from his

703
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 2: rookie year.

704
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm going with RG three here, come on.

705
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: My honestly, my first instint when I looked at this

706
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: was to go bow Knicks. That was my initial because

707
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: in part because of just what he had to work with. Yeah,

708
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: and not that not look not that you know the

709
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: Washington Club which is going by a different name at

710
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: the time. Look, the receivers weren't great. I mean, Pierre Garson,

711
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: Santana Moss, like neither one of those guys were I

712
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: remember drafting him. Oh yeah, no, I mean, look, was

713
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: a good player. He was not a great player. You know,

714
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: they had Alfred Morris, right, you're running the football who

715
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: I loved Alfred Morris, and he was.

716
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 2: An undrafted rookie, I believe.

717
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I was like surprised to see he

718
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: scored thirteen touchdowns because I felt like one of my

719
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: big frustrations that they never gave him goal line work,

720
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: But that he scored thirteen touchdowns is sort of amazing there.

721
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: But if I remember correctly, like when he lost RG three, he.

722
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Just went down the tubes. Yeah, it wasn't great after

723
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: that for him. But bo Knicks pretty much just had

724
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: Cortland Sutton. I mean that was kind of it. Yeah,

725
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: you know, I put Javonte Williams on this list of

726
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: the top skill players because, like we know you did

727
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: it would it would have looked sad if there was

728
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: just one name there and it was Courtland Sutton.

729
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: Right, But this is why he gets the edge on

730
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 3: RG three. Like they both didn't have like great weapons

731
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: around them. But it's just like bow had less like

732
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 3: you you had Santana Mass he was a good wide receiver.

733
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: Pierre Garton was a good wide receiver, but he just

734
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: had Courtland's Sutton and company.

735
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really I'm really torn on this one. Like,

736
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, more.

737
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: Touchdowns, second most touchdowns by a rookie. You're saying bo

738
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: Knicks catch it, bro. I also, I also do think

739
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: bo Nicks is sort of health and you touched on this.

740
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: Laqwan helped by the fact that the expectations for RG

741
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: three were so much higher than for bow Knicks. You know,

742
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: RG three won, He won a Heisman Trophy. Right, he

743
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: was he was the best player in college football. And

744
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 3: he gets to Washington and the whole city is behind him.

745
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 3: He was going to change the franchise. He was going

746
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: to really elevate this franchise back to its glory from

747
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: the eighties, you know, and then injuries unfortunately prevented all

748
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: that from happening. Bo Nix was like everybody was just like, yeah, man,

749
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 3: this dude's old and he can't throw. That kind of

750
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 3: the thought about bon Nicks top five deep ball passer

751
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: as well last season, but put some respect on his name.

752
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: Man, So I feel like some of the excitement is

753
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: about the fact that we didn't expect much from Bonnicks.

754
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: I think I'm still gonna vote bon NICKX in this one.

755
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's go all right, all right for

756
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: the four to five matchup, though, man like it, it's

757
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: gonna be close. I'm curious to see how the general

758
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: public votes on the four to five because I think

759
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: I think this was gonna be close. I think, you know,

760
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: I think Cam runs away with the one to eight matchup,

761
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: but RG three RG three in Bonnix could be a

762
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: battle for sure. That's the top half of the bracket.

763
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna do. The bottom half of the bracket still

764
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: two more matchups to go, a Bolt versus of Cowboy

765
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: and a couple of mobile quarterbacks at the bottom of

766
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: the bracket as well. Stick around for more of that

767
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: coming up on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Back to

768
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: the bottom half of the bracket. And by the way,

769
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: if you are watching this on video, if you check

770
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: this out on YouTube, man shout out to Kyrie Douglas

771
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: who put together these awesome graphics for us with the

772
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 1: shots and the players and the stats on their fantastic work.

773
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: So big, big thanks to him for putting that together

774
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: and making that look great. On the three versus the six,

775
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is your three seed from twenty twenty four.

776
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: Three hundred and thirty six passing yards, thirty one touchdowns,

777
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: ten picks, two hundred and thirty four rushing yards with

778
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: five rushing touchdowns, three hundred and thirty two point eight

779
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: fantasy points in a year that was very strange, right,

780
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys remember twenty twenty and you know

781
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: there were no fans in the state, not that the

782
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: Chargers ever really have fans in the stands, but on

783
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: pump like no fans in the sitands. You had you know,

784
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: you had people like opting out of games, you had

785
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: people missing games, you had games being played like on

786
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: a Wednesday afternoon, all that kind of weirdness. And still

787
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert went and balled out going against the sixth

788
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: seed Dak Prescot from twenty sixteen six hundred and sixty

789
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: seven passing yards, twenty three touchdowns, ten interceptions, two hundred

790
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: and eighty two rushing yards, six rushing touchdowns, two hunred

791
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: eighty six point nine fantasy points there. I'm am I

792
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: crazy Flora for thinking that Herbert could roll in this matchup,

793
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: not at all.

794
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: I think I think it should be that way, like

795
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: rookie year Dak. I think what made it so cool

796
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: and stuff was that like it kind of came a

797
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: little out of nowhere, like he it was. Tony Romo

798
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: was the starter still and they drafted Dak right, but

799
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: Romo wasn't healthy in training camp if I'm remembering correctly.

800
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: And then like back, yeah, they started Dak and then

801
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: they were like, all right, Dak's playing, well, we're just

802
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: gonna roll with him. But like that made it really

803
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: fun and stuff. But you compare numbers, Justin Herbert had

804
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: seven hundred more yards, eight more passing touchdowns, the same

805
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: number of interceptions, just fifty less rushing yards one less

806
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: rushing touchdown. Like I know his web were better that

807
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: I love that Chargers team from that era with Keenan,

808
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: Mike Williams, and Austin Eckler. But like Dak Prescott had

809
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: primed as Bryan still right or maybe not prime but

810
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 2: still relevant das he had Wait and he had prime

811
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: Zeke Elliott. So yeah, the supporting cast is pretty close.

812
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the better numbers and give it

813
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: to Herbert.

814
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: The thing I remember about that twenty sixteen season was

815
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: at some point during the year, like midway during the year,

816
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: the Cowboys called a press conference for Tony Romo to

817
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: acknowledge that he was no longer the starter. And I

818
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: just remember it was covered by our network, by a

819
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: lot of other networks as like the somber Sad occasion.

820
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: It was like it felt like, you know, none of

821
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: us were alive for it. But you know, you've probably

822
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: seen the video of you know, lou gerrig coming back

823
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: on fourth of July and doing like the whole like

824
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: today today today, it felt like that, except Luke Garrett

825
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: had a life threatening, debilitating disease. Tony Romo just lost

826
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: his job. Like it was covered with the same level

827
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: of seriousness as though like, you know, he was like

828
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: announcing that he had to leave the game for like

829
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: major health reasons. I'm like, but you're still getting paid.

830
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: You just just not a starter anymore? Like what are

831
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: we doing here? Yeah? I don't know, Uh floya is

832
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: does Dak have a shot in this at all? Or

833
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: is just a Herbert runaway? I picked Herbert, so l Q,

834
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: what do you think here? I picked Herbert as well.

835
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: It's the thirty one touchdowns man, Like he hit the

836
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: ground running, like he utilized all the weapons out around him.

837
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: Like I just remember that year, you know, Keenan Allen

838
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: and Mike Williams, like that was just like his go

839
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: to weapons. And then you have Alstin Eckler do what

840
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: he was able to do, like Dak just had Zeke

841
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: and he kind of just leaned on Zeke having over

842
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: nineteen hundred screming yards as well. So you got to

843
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: go with the numbers here, And I mean, honestly, how

844
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: you go against Justin Herbert that following year those were

845
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: five thousand yards? Like it's just like it just shows

846
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: to his greatness of him coming into the league like.

847
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: He was ready to go. I will say I did

848
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: not remember Cole Beasley being the Cowboys leading receiver in

849
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. You know, I remember, I know Beasley had

850
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: some good seasons and he was definitely a guy that

851
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: we liked in fantasy. I didn't remember him being their

852
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: leading pass catcher, remember him as a rapper unfortunately. Yeah,

853
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: I remember that.

854
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: When you guys are talking, I pulled up Tony Romo's

855
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: career stats and like shout out to him because his

856
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: run from start to finish was eight seasons and that's it.

857
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I remember early in his career. I remember

858
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: he was the holder on kicks on like extra points,

859
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: and I think it was was it a playoff game

860
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: or a really important late season game. He fumbled the

861
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: snap flumb playoff and either having to run and trying

862
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: to get the he was trying to score a touchdown.

863
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: It was like near the goal line and he gets

864
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: stopped there. Might talk about it like he also just

865
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: missed getting a first down, Like, yeah, he fumbled the snap.

866
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: If he picks up a first down, the Cowboys trobably

867
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,959
Speaker 1: score a touchdown and go on and win that game.

868
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: Do you think he'll be more like remembered than Dak Willis,

869
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: Like I feel like he was like the face of oh,

870
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: like not the league maybe because it was Brady.

871
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you.

872
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: This now, my uncle is a huge Cowboys fan and

873
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: he still lives in those Tony Romo days. He like

874
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 3: he low key does not like Dak and I don't

875
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: know why. And I'm like, Dak has done everything right.

876
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: He just he got injured.

877
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: Like I think the highs were higher with Romo, Like yeah,

878
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: like I think the highs were like we can actually

879
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: get back to the dance and like he can continue

880
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: us getting there.

881
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: And like with Dak, it's kind of like, oh, this

882
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: des caught it.

883
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone as they said, he doesn't catch it.

884
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: I can't.

885
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 3: I'm a joke with him like that because it turns

886
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: into like a serious football conversation like I love you all,

887
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: but like all right, rules of rules, he didn't catch it.

888
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: Man, Kyrie pointing out, yeah, Tony Romo was the starter

889
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: for Dallas in that fumble game. I think the other

890
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: thing about Romo that was sort of a big deal

891
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: is that he he sort of gave them Cowboys hope

892
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: because they wandered in the quarterback wilderness for a long

893
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: time after Troy Aikman left right, Quincy Carter didn't work out.

894
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: They tried to get a washed up Vinnie Testa Verdi

895
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: that didn't work out for them. Drew Bledsoe sort of

896
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: late in his career. I mean they were just trying

897
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: to sort of patch it together for a while and

898
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: then they hit on Romo and yeah, I mean that

899
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: turned into something really really good for a while. So

900
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it too, is that like

901
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: he kind of brought the Cowboys back in a sense,

902
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: got them back to relevance, even though he can never

903
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: quite get them over the all these years.

904
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: He was definitely more pop culturally, culturally reference.

905
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: Jessica Simpson.

906
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, has a video where he plays the two of them,

907
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: and it's like Dak doesn't have anything like that going on.

908
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: It's true, very very true. Uh. The other thing about

909
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: it is our our friend and colleague Akbar Baja Biamila

910
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: uh sacked Tony Romo in college. Really nice. Yeah, if

911
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: you if you scroll, you have to scroll ways. When

912
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: you scroll deep deep through a Bar's Twitter feed, there's

913
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: a picture of Akbar at San Diego State sacking Eastern

914
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Illinois Tony Romo. Nice. Look at them both now look

915
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: at him now both both big time TV stars. In

916
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: their their own respective rights, all right. So yeah, I

917
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: think Herbert is a unanimous on this one. I think

918
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: he sort of rolls in this one. I don't think

919
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: it's particularly close. Very curious how this goes. The two

920
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: versus the seven. Uh, Jayden Daniels is your too, coming

921
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: off a phenomenal year three thousand, five hundred and sixty

922
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: eight passing yards, twenty five touchdowns, eight hundred and ninety

923
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: one rushing yards, nine interceptions, also eight hundred ninety one

924
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: rushing yards, six rushing touchdowns, three hundred and fifty five

925
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: point eight fantasy points versus Kyler Murray from twenty nineteen

926
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: at three seven hundred and twenty two passing yards, twenty

927
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: touchdowns at twelve picks, five hundred and forty four rushing yards,

928
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: four rushing touchdowns, two and eighty five point three passing yards.

929
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: I want this to be close in my head, but

930
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: it's not going to be close as it looks. It's not. No,

931
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: it's not. Can we just say it together. It's clearly

932
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels. This is clearly Jadan Daniels.

933
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: Right, he has a chance to win the whole damn thing,

934
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: like honestly, like it's not my favorite.

935
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy though, So that's the thing, right, I mean, Lakwan,

936
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: you are currently wearing a Jayden Daniels T shirt from

937
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: Fantasy Fits. Shout out Fantasy Fits, Flora. You have been

938
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: on the Jade and Daniels bandwagon since day one. Poor Kyler,

939
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: he didn't stand a chance in this.

940
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: I loved Kyler as a rookie too, Like.

941
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all did.

942
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: I think this is the season that everybody holds onto

943
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 3: that he can hit higher in his projection.

944
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: So this one or I think it was. Was it

945
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty where he ran for the year he ran

946
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: for eight hundred yards? Because that was like yeah, I

947
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: mean he kind of did have to. Yeah, the twenty

948
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: twenty season, eight hundred and nineteen rushing yards, eleven touchdowns.

949
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: I think everybody's like, oh, all right, well Kyler's that guy, Like.

950
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, was that his best passing year two? Because that

951
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 2: was when he had d hop right it was thirty

952
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: nine hundred yards that year. Yeah, He's never had a

953
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: four thousand yard season career high in passing, So yeah,

954
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: that is the year. We're all like this guy is

955
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: who he.

956
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: Thought he was. We've been chasing that dragon ever since then,

957
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: it's been five years.

958
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: I kind of do hope that it comes down to

959
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 2: Cam versus Jaden, because I think there's a strong argument

960
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: to be made that Cam Newton had the best fantasy

961
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: rookie season ever, but jad and Daniels had the best

962
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: real life rookie season ever.

963
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: More wow moments, for sure, more like what the heck?

964
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: How did it? Like, it's more of those. Well, I mean,

965
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: especially the you know, the Hail Mary that was sort

966
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: of the big highlight of the year. But even what

967
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: he did in the playoffs, I mean the way he

968
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: just ran through the Lions. He went to two cribs

969
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: and he smacked it.

970
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: Not only that, like I think he legitimately could have

971
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: kept up with the Eagles, Like there was a stretch

972
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: in that game where he scored the touchdown they were

973
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: down one or two I think, and the next time

974
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 2: he touched the ball, they were down three scores because they.

975
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: Just kept fumbling.

976
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, So he put up a better fight

977
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: than Mahomes did, beter than the Rams.

978
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: Because off, if it just never snowed, this has a

979
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 2: ring right now.

980
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: This is why I hate snow, and this is why

981
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: I'm never returning back to live in New Jersey. That

982
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: that that's why I hate snow and we are. Let's

983
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: not get into a rams right right now. I literally

984
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 3: amost punched my camera.

985
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: That would have been great television, That would have been

986
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: great internet if you had done this podcast over just

987
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: a complete So, I mean, for the most part, this

988
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: is sort of a chalky bracket. I mean, you know,

989
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: there's a chance Knicks could pull the upset in the

990
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: four five.

991
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: Dak's gonna have Cowboy Nation riding with him, and Herbert's

992
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: gonna have no fans.

993
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: So that's the thing, right, Like, if we're doing this,

994
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: my fan base is like justin, Herbert's got great numbers. Interesting.

995
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: I think Herbert has a chance. Maybe doesn't beat Jayden Daniels,

996
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: but I think I think a Herbert Daniels matchup could

997
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: be really interesting. I think it could be a fun

998
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: second round matchup. The question is, if we're doing this

999
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: big on fan bases, Herbert might not get the support

1000
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: to get out of the first round.

1001
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and I hope folks don't like account for

1002
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 3: like outside of fantasy and like they go all well,

1003
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: their record was this year, no.

1004
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: No, no, don't worry, but that records don't matter. This is

1005
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: fantasy strictly all this is strictly fantasy production.

1006
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: But if it's Dak versus Jayden, we might get an

1007
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: NFC East.

1008
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: War in March, Washington, Washington, Dallas, you know, kind of

1009
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: rivalry matchup that that could be interesting, that would be

1010
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: so toxic in the comment and I'm I kind of hope.

1011
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: I really the one I want to see is RG

1012
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: three vers Jayden Daniels. Like to me, that would be

1013
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: a fun a fun matchup.

1014
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that could be a fun matchup. The

1015
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: problem is RG three might not get past Nicks. That's

1016
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: the that's the hard part with that one. But honestly,

1017
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: I think an RG three Cam matchup, Like I mean,

1018
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: I think Cam rolls. He's he is the he's the

1019
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: number one overall seed for a reason. But it's an

1020
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: interesting conversation a Cam versus RG three matchup because you know,

1021
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: they came in the league within a year of each other.

1022
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: They were both expected to sort of revolutionize the quarterback position.

1023
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Griffin we never really got to see that,

1024
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: you know, through no fault of his own. But I

1025
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: mean stylistically, they were very different because Cam is just

1026
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: a mountain of a person like linebackers. Yeah, like you know,

1027
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: Robert Griffin is at least built more like a normal

1028
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: everyday human being, you know, like not the same, not

1029
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: the same with Cam Newton for sure. Two things.

1030
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: One, I was shocked Andrew luck was not top eight,

1031
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 2: Like I think he has the record for most passing.

1032
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: Yards as a rookie.

1033
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: But also I know he didn't start his rookie year,

1034
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: but the first year and a half that Lamar Jackson

1035
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: was the starter is arguably the greatest year and a

1036
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: half stretch of like fantasy quarterback play.

1037
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was great. I am. I'm just think

1038
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: there were guys who had like great quarterback stretches, like

1039
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: Vince Young had a great stretch. He didn't necessarily have

1040
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: a great career, but you know, early on with Tennessee

1041
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: he had those huge comebacks and you know, he obviously

1042
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: was very mobile. He had a really really good run

1043
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: early on, but just it was just never sustained and

1044
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: as a passer he just never really developed. I don't

1045
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: think who else had a really good quarterback run. I mean,

1046
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger didn't put up stats, He just won games. Oh, yeah,

1047
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: he was a winner. But you're right, that was the thing.

1048
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: Like statistically he was fine because like you know what

1049
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Ben Roethlisberger was never It was never I

1050
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: don't think aesthetically pleasing to watch, but it was effective,

1051
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: Like you know, he was like it was like tackling

1052
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: a building trying to tackle him. You knows rookie year

1053
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: man C J. Stroud his rookie year. I'm surprised that

1054
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: didn't make it in there. Pay him having one.

1055
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: Of the worst rookie years always is funny to me, dude,

1056
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: like because then he just turned it on after that.

1057
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, It's just like, all right, now I know

1058
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: what's going on. And twenty eight interceptions is a rookie.

1059
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: Twenty eight interceptions is insane. But just stop throwing the ball.

1060
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 3: Stop stop after twenty dude.

1061
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: I mean.

1062
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't even like, I don't even know

1063
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: who else was behind him on that roster at quarterback

1064
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: that they would have even turned to.

1065
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 2: Let's see, I have his reference page up, so I'm

1066
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: pulling up the ninety eight Colts.

1067
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

1068
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: Torren Small.

1069
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Toren Small was a wide receiver who just

1070
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: like threw a couple of passes like.

1071
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: He did one pass. Manning led the league in pass

1072
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: attempts that year.

1073
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: Stop throwing the ball, just like here you go, I

1074
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: think he was. I'm like, I'm looking at this. He

1075
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: might have been. He's currently listed, at least on Pro

1076
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Football Reference as the only quarterback on the roster. Like

1077
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: that can't be right. They had that have it?

1078
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: Like, we can't, we cannot give Winston crap anymore? Man Like,

1079
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 3: this was a terrible year.

1080
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: We can, Yeah, we can, because Peyton didn't throw thirty

1081
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: interceptions almost almost horseshoes and hand grenades, man like almost,

1082
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: that's it.

1083
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: Like Winston had more touchdowns though, just saying stopped stopped

1084
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 3: throwing the ball.

1085
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: For I forgot that.

1086
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 2: Manning and Marshall Falk played together one year.

1087
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: One year, crazy before before Marshall went off to the Rams.

1088
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah his glory days.

1089
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 2: Man, No good happened there, Okay? Is that the reason

1090
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: you're a Rams fan? Because of that team?

1091
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 3: So the Rams were the first literally like football team,

1092
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: Like I watched on TV at my dad's house, and

1093
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: like they were just entertaining Marshall Falk, Kurt Warner, Isaac

1094
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 3: Bruce fan, I mean Tory Hall.

1095
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: How could you not fall in love with that arsenal

1096
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: of an offense? Like, because I was a forty nine

1097
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: er fan.

1098
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: Did you hate them?

1099
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: Then they were in Saint Louis, right, No, I didn't

1100
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: start hating them until they're still in the division. I

1101
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: mean there's still a division rival and they'd had all

1102
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: those years in Los Angeles, you know, and they were

1103
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: rivals there. Although and also that was like when they

1104
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: started getting good, because like from my childhood, like in

1105
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: the eighties, the Rams were ever really good. There was

1106
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: one year they went to the NFC Championship game of

1107
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: the Niners kind of smacked them, but for the most part,

1108
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: like it was kind of a one sided rivalry for

1109
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: most of my childhood. And then all of a sudden

1110
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: in the nineties, they go to Saint Louis and then

1111
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: they put together this this greatest show on turf and

1112
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: they get good and they start challenging them, and it's like, wait, wait,

1113
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: what is this? What is happening? You're the Rams? What

1114
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: is happening here? So like, yeah, I mean I get it.

1115
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 1: They were like objectively were fun to watch, but no,

1116
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: Also that was also when the Niners were the only

1117
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: Western they were the only NFC West team actually in

1118
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: the West. Yeah, it's like when Detroit used to be

1119
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: in the West, Like no change divisions.

1120
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: Just yeah, NFL geography used to not be great. Let's

1121
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: go back to that, man, just change it up. Like

1122
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 3: the Cowboys have no business being in the East. If

1123
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: we're being honest, all of those teams are like a

1124
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: two hour drive from one another, and then they're in

1125
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 3: the Southwest.

1126
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: Like that was strictly to maintain rivalries. That's really all

1127
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: that was. That was it. I mean, similarly to why

1128
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, who's at the Indianapolis culture in the AFC

1129
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: South just because you know, they wanted to keep the Ravens, Steelers, Browns,

1130
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: and Bengals together and the Colts were sort of the

1131
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: the odd team out there and they moved to the

1132
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: AOC South.

1133
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: I get it because I've seen people be like, let's

1134
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: rebrand the divisions and put like the Jets, Giants, Bills,

1135
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: and like Steelers in one, and.

1136
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I would hate that, Like, man, randomize

1137
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 3: it many every four years.

1138
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: This randomized me. Let's go the other thing that's sort

1139
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: of lost out because like the AFC West had nothing

1140
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: but rivals. I mean Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos, Raiders were all rivals,

1141
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: but in some of the Seahawks. But I guess the

1142
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: Seahawks sort of got they got screwed. They not only

1143
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: did they get moved out of the ANFC West, they

1144
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: got moved all the way to the NFC alltogether. I mean,

1145
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, Raiders Seahawks was a division

1146
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: rivalry game, you know, like that was a thing. But

1147
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: I guess they just they didn't make the cut some

1148
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: kind of way. You know, see Isaiah Thomas, I met

1149
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: the criteria, but I was not selected. That's kind of

1150
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: what that is. All Right, We're getting a little loopy,

1151
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: probably time to pull the shoot on this way. But anyway,

1152
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: go vote. We will have the polls up on the

1153
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Twitter feed. You can go vote for all

1154
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: the first round matchups, and then next week we'll come

1155
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: back next Thursday, because that's when the next round of

1156
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: the yeh n C two A tournament will start. Till

1157
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: next Thursday, we will get you with round two of

1158
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: this and we'll see who makes it through and you

1159
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: can keep voting on the best Fantasy peason since two thousand.

1160
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: In the meantime, that'll do it for this edition of

1161
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, The Happy, Safe and Healthy,

1162
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: do good and live well. Enjoy the tournament. Everybody should

1163
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: be a whole lot of fun. We will talk to

1164
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: you again next week.