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Speaker 4: ty Hildebrant. I am joined as always by my trusted
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Speaker 4: As you said, we'll be announcing details of it. You
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Speaker 5: Okay, we've got some actual breaking news, backing news. We've
Speaker 5: got a new head football coach at Florida Atlantic University
Speaker 5: Dan As some have said.
Speaker 2: The owl owls.
Speaker 1: The new coach is Laying Kiffin.
Speaker 3: Huh it is And this and thus concludes a pretty
Speaker 3: exhaustive question that you've asked a lot of our guests.
Speaker 1: How what is the over under?
Speaker 3: What if I gave you an over under of three
Speaker 3: and a half four and a half two and a
Speaker 3: half years after Lane Kiffin was unceremoniously let go at
Speaker 3: the tarm at Lax from USC, what is the number
Speaker 3: of years that will go by before Lane Kiffin gets
Speaker 3: a new head coaching job.
Speaker 4: Well, that was one of the over unders, But the
Speaker 4: big over under is still on the table. The big
Speaker 4: over under is how many head coaching jobs will Lane
Speaker 4: Kiffin have in his career? Sure, so it started. It
Speaker 4: started with the Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 1: That was one.
Speaker 4: Then he moved to Tennessee that was two, then to
Speaker 4: USC that was three. Then he got fired all right,
Speaker 4: So the over under was always I believe five and
Speaker 4: a half, all right, which means that he's got four
Speaker 4: now with Florida Atlantic. You would assume if it goes
Speaker 4: well at Florida Atlantic, there will be a fifth. The
Speaker 4: question is will there be a sixth? So you're over
Speaker 4: under five and a half still on the board. But
Speaker 4: it does get interesting now as he takes his FAU job.
Speaker 4: First and foremost, a ton of coaching talent in Florida,
Speaker 4: because Charlie Strong's there. Now, We've obviously got Jim mcalwayn
Speaker 4: who's been doing a pretty good job recruiting, though not
Speaker 4: actually winning.
Speaker 1: We've got Mark Richt, who is also.
Speaker 4: In the Florida area, a lot of artillery when it
Speaker 4: comes to the coaching side of things in the great
Speaker 4: state of Florida. And also he took a pay cut
Speaker 4: to get this gig. I thought the most insightful comment
Speaker 4: of all came from our friend Stuart Mandel, who I
Speaker 4: believe wrote a piece about how now at forty one,
Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin gets the job that he should have had
Speaker 4: at thirty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a bad point at all, and it
Speaker 3: would be somewhat easy to see him succeeding at a
Speaker 3: place like FAU, if not for the fact that Charlie
Speaker 3: Strong is now which is also breaking news officially, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's at USF and taking the place of Willie Taggart
Speaker 3: who moved on to Oregon. Butch Davis is at FIU,
Speaker 3: Jimbo Fisher, of course at Florida State, Jim Mclawaine at Florida,
Speaker 3: and Miami has Mark rickt all of whom are very
Speaker 3: good recruiters. And not to say that three star recruits
Speaker 3: in Florida are scraps because of Florida. Three star recruit
Speaker 3: is a significant recruit pretty much everywhere in the country.
Speaker 3: But if there's enough talent to go around, and Lane
Speaker 3: Kiffin is able to field a good to pretty good
Speaker 3: to even very good team at FAU for the Owls,
Speaker 3: where does he springboard? What is his Western Kentucky to Louisville.
Speaker 3: I was thinking South Carolina. After they fire Wilmas champion
Speaker 3: two years, he woul think he's only gonna last three years.
Speaker 3: They improved that they went six and six.
Speaker 1: Knee jerk reaction South Carolina. But it's somewhere in the southeast.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say San Diego State. Rocky Long a
Speaker 1: sixty six mm Okay, interesting. Yeah, well we'll see. We'll see.
Speaker 4: Lane Kiff and your new coach at FAU. The state
Speaker 4: of Florida gets really interesting on the recruiting front. The
Speaker 4: other news, and again we're recording this on a Monday.
Speaker 4: We should add there are probably going to be other
Speaker 4: news tidbits that drop now that going to FAU to
Speaker 4: be head coach, some coordinator moves and things of that
Speaker 4: ilk that I would imagine are going to pop up
Speaker 4: here over the next couple days that we might miss
Speaker 4: on this show. But at least before we hit record,
Speaker 4: Deshaun Kaiser did announce that he is going pro. He's
Speaker 4: going to forego next season and go to the NFL.
Speaker 4: I think it's a good move for him. What I
Speaker 4: know that a lot of the guys out there, the scouts,
Speaker 4: are saying no, he should get an another year in
Speaker 4: college to kind of ripen a little bit more. But
Speaker 4: Kaiser reminds me of a guy who's going to test
Speaker 4: pretty well at the combine. He's going to do real
Speaker 4: well on the wonder Lick. He's going to wow people
Speaker 4: with his interview skills, and there's always a team out
Speaker 4: there that's willing to reach on a project quarterback. We
Speaker 4: saw Christian Hackenberg went pretty high a year ago, He's
Speaker 4: still a long ways away from being a starter in
Speaker 4: the NFL. Jared Goff went one overall, a guy that
Speaker 4: I don't believe you or I was too high on
Speaker 4: coming out of college, but he left early, went one overall,
Speaker 4: and he's now kind of sputtering through his first year
Speaker 4: in the NFL. I just feel like, if you're a
Speaker 4: quarterback with great physical tools, if you test well at
Speaker 4: the combine, someone's going to take a risk on you.
Speaker 4: And if Matt Barkley's the cautionary tale dog, go out
Speaker 4: and get your money before you get hurt. So that
Speaker 4: combined with the fact that things at Notre Dame didn't
Speaker 4: go all that peachy last season for him.
Speaker 1: And I just feel like it was the right move
Speaker 1: across the board. I did what was his best game
Speaker 1: against a decent team this past year.
Speaker 3: And I'm totally willing and I saw I don't know
Speaker 3: if it was our Pyle Pete Sampson talking about that
Speaker 3: the wide receiver targets that he had were something like
Speaker 3: six to forty on contested targets like it certainly was
Speaker 3: a step back from twenty fifteen in terms of what
Speaker 3: he had out wide, But what was his best game?
Speaker 3: I have his game log right here. Obviously there was
Speaker 3: a disaster in the monsoon that North Carolina State, I
Speaker 3: would argue was probably not even decent. Michigan State is
Speaker 3: a three and nine team. He had a pretty good
Speaker 3: game against them. Texas fired their coach and he had
Speaker 3: a very good game against Texas, but they turned out
Speaker 3: to be not so good. Miami was decent. Is Miami
Speaker 3: the answer? Miami defense might be the answer. He dropped
Speaker 3: a few dimes in that game. Yeah, But Virginia Tech,
Speaker 3: I would would say it was somewhat disappointing. It didn't
Speaker 3: complete fifty percent of his passes, and obviously that's not
Speaker 3: all on him. Uh, the USC game was kind of
Speaker 3: a mess. I'm going to answer and say Michigan State.
Speaker 3: And I know Michigan State's not a decent team, but
Speaker 3: in terms of how he fared in that game versus others,
Speaker 3: it was pretty apparent about midway through that he was
Speaker 3: going to have to hoist the team on his back
Speaker 3: in order to win that game. They obviously didn't win.
Speaker 3: They lost by eight, but Notre Dame came crawling back.
Speaker 3: That was back in the early part of the season
Speaker 3: where everyone thought Notre Dame could still have a chance
Speaker 3: at salvaging the season after losing that heartbreaker to Texas.
Speaker 3: It became apparent early in that game that it was
Speaker 3: going to be kaiser or bust, and he damn near
Speaker 3: did it. So for me just watching at home, the
Speaker 3: numbers don't quite compare to some of the other games
Speaker 3: throughout the course of the season, But in terms of
Speaker 3: how important he was to his team, I think is
Speaker 3: probably Michigan State. Yeah, he took a step back completion
Speaker 3: percentage rating and yards per attempt from twenty fifteen to
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen against ranked teams.
Speaker 1: This year.
Speaker 3: He finished twelfth in quarterback rating against ranked teams in
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen forty eighth. Yeah, so that certainly struggled at times.
Speaker 3: That makes sense to me. I just I don't think
Speaker 3: he trusted his line. I don't think he trusted his receivers.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: I think he's got some ripening that he needs to
Speaker 4: do as a player before maybe he can grow into
Speaker 4: his full potential. But I think a good move for him.
Speaker 4: I think the time is right to part ways. And
Speaker 4: you know, cik new beginning in the NFL. Is he
Speaker 4: a first round pick. I'm not a draft expert. I
Speaker 4: think he's probably got first round talent. I just don't
Speaker 4: know if it's if it's quite there out in the
Speaker 4: open yet. There's definitely room to grow. He missed a
Speaker 4: lot of open guys is here.
Speaker 3: And the future for Notre Dame ic quarterback now without
Speaker 3: Shaun Kaiser on Malik Sayre, the future is Brandon Wimbush,
Speaker 3: And behind the scenes, folks are pretty excited about Brandon Wimbush.
Speaker 4: He's no competition, a true dual threat guy. I can't
Speaker 4: imagine there'd be much competition. I think it's his job,
Speaker 4: barring any kind of crazy injury or anything like that.
Speaker 4: So we'll see which direction they take the offense now
Speaker 4: with Wimbush, he's more Zaire than I think Kaiser with
Speaker 4: his running ability, So you know, we'll see what. We'll
Speaker 4: see how they tailor the offense in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: What direction do you want to see the offense go
Speaker 3: with the talent available in South Bend.
Speaker 4: I want to see them get better at running the football. Okay,
Speaker 4: that was a problem this year. I expected them to
Speaker 4: be way better running the ball. They just they didn't
Speaker 4: have it, So they got to get better at running
Speaker 4: the football. If they get better at running the football,
Speaker 4: I think that helps you unlock Wimbush as a passer.
Speaker 4: He's got a cannon, right, He's got a cannon for
Speaker 4: an arm like Ken Phelps. But you need to get
Speaker 4: that running game in place first before we can really
Speaker 4: utilize his entire skill set.
Speaker 3: Okay, but your takeaway from Deshaun Kaiser's legacy his time
Speaker 3: at Notre Dame net positive.
Speaker 4: Total net positive, total net positive. He represented himself and
Speaker 4: the university. Well, I thought he did an admirable job
Speaker 4: in twenty fifteen, nearly leading Notre Dame into the playoffs,
Speaker 4: and this year was just a systemic failure on a
Speaker 4: number of different fronts. He contributed to it, but he
Speaker 4: wasn't the sole reason. Okay, let's leave it at there.
Speaker 4: Enough any other news for you, Dan, No, that's all
Speaker 4: I got. All right, Join our bullpool. We're going to
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Speaker 4: We're also going to post that on solid verbal dot com.
Speaker 4: So get in on that compete for fabulous prizes before
Speaker 4: we do the previews, though, mm hmm, we do have
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Speaker 4: the past. I actually just came up to my studio
Speaker 4: from cooking downstairs. I cooked up which makes a lovely
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Speaker 1: What's inside some chicken lettuce wraps? Got some onions in there.
Speaker 4: Got some other stuff that I probably am not pronouncing correctly,
Speaker 4: water chestnuts. You know, siracha, I believe is the proper
Speaker 4: pronunciation of it.
Speaker 1: Good job.
Speaker 4: Here's my problem though, with cooking. This has long been
Speaker 4: an issue I have. I never know exactly how much
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Speaker 1: All right, this would be cracking my knuckles. You ready,
Speaker 1: all right, let's hear all right.
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Speaker 1: Good job.
Speaker 4: One for one, ty, green coconut curry with sweet potato
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Speaker 1: Okay, can you name a type of ty curry? No you? Okay?
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Speaker 3: I'm in the process of booking and researching my honeymoon
Speaker 3: in Italy. So as soon as I land, it's breaking news,
Speaker 3: break pit it breaking news. I'm too late now, but okay,
Speaker 3: as soon as I land, I will ask the gate
Speaker 3: agent how to pronounce the potato pasta.
Speaker 1: I know it to benok. Perfect. All right, let's get
Speaker 1: some bowls. Let's do it.
Speaker 6: The week.
Speaker 4: I almost need a different sound for this because they're
Speaker 4: not really picks of the week, are they.
Speaker 1: I'm looking here.
Speaker 3: So we've got Thursday of Thursday the twenty second through
Speaker 3: Tuesday the twenty seventh, so it's like it's picks of
Speaker 3: the week, and that there is a week span.
Speaker 4: Sure, picks of a week, Picks of a week. All right,
Speaker 4: So here's what we're doing. We're doing bowls and waves
Speaker 4: and five waves. The fifth wave is going to be
Speaker 4: the Biggins. Like the New Year's Six Games, the playoff
Speaker 4: games and whatnot. We've got a bunch of other groupings
Speaker 4: in between. Today we're going from the Famous Idaho Potato
Speaker 4: Bowl all the way up through the Zaxby's Heart of
Speaker 4: Dallas Bowl.
Speaker 3: All right, are you prepared for this? I am tie yes.
Speaker 3: When I give you the signal, hold on, yeah, I
Speaker 3: gotta load this. This has taken a little bit, but
Speaker 3: it's gonna work out. I'm very confident. When I give
Speaker 3: you the signal, I need you to repeat the two
Speaker 3: bowls that we are spanning. Okay, yeah, okay, once again,
Speaker 3: Ty tell me which two bowls we are spanning on
Speaker 3: this show.
Speaker 4: The Famous Idaho Potato Bowl and the Zaxby's Heart of
Speaker 4: Dallas Bowl.
Speaker 1: That's right. It needs a little bit of seasoning.
Speaker 4: Ky needs a little bit of kosher salt, some crack
Speaker 4: black pepper. Yeah, a little siracha, maybe little saffron.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right, Famous Idaho Potato bol bois Idaho.
Speaker 4: Thursday, December twenty second, seven pm on ESPN. This game
Speaker 4: is played on the smurf turf of Albertson Stadium. As
Speaker 4: you mentioned, is where Boise State plays.
Speaker 2: True or false?
Speaker 1: Dan, a little snoops trivia for you.
Speaker 4: True or false that local waterfowl confuse this field for
Speaker 4: a body of water and crash into it.
Speaker 1: That I thought was true? Is it not true? That
Speaker 1: is apparently a myth. Oh that's garbage, fake news. It's everywhere,
Speaker 1: even college football. Not true? All right, fair, not true? Okay.
Speaker 4: This game is between Colorado State and Idaho the Vandals. Yeah,
Speaker 4: sort of playing a home game, if you will. Colorado
Speaker 4: State a thirteen and a half point favorite, now you know,
Speaker 4: I look at these home game things again to reiterate
Speaker 4: my formula. I'm looking first and foremost at motivating factors
Speaker 4: for the teams involved in these bowl games, and then secondly,
Speaker 4: I'm looking to try in front load points wherever I can.
Speaker 4: That's a new and improved formula for this year.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: I'm inclined to say that this is a home game
Speaker 4: for Idaho. However, that's not really a thing because they're
Speaker 4: three hundred miles away from the stadium here.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 4: Idaho's a big state. It's like five and a half
Speaker 4: hours away. So it's a home state game, which I'm
Speaker 4: going to say is like half credit. If that's cool with.
Speaker 1: You, that's great by me.
Speaker 4: Idaho's played well down the stretch. They've won their last
Speaker 4: four games. The question, though, is the competition. The competition's
Speaker 4: been a little suspect, not so much for Colorado State.
Speaker 1: They've played way.
Speaker 4: Tougher competition this year, and according to the SMP, Colorado
Speaker 4: State's like the twenty third best team in the country.
Speaker 4: That puts them ahead of teams like Virginia Tech and
Speaker 4: pitt in Houston and Notre Dame, which is twenty fifth. Somehow,
Speaker 4: just forget about that and nothing's perfect. Do you have
Speaker 4: a leaning here, Dan?
Speaker 1: I do like the Rams.
Speaker 3: I do like Colorado State, and not a lot of
Speaker 3: people in the football world like rams right around now. No, No,
Speaker 3: Colorado State hugely improved on offense, especially at the end
Speaker 3: of the season. If you paid a little bit of
Speaker 3: attention to Nick Stevens, the Colorado State quarterback, they finished
Speaker 3: season winning four or five. They dropped sixty three a
Speaker 3: very good San Diego State defense. They beat New Mexico
Speaker 3: Bowl team, a really good offense of New Mexico. The
Speaker 3: Colorado State defense isn't great, particularly versus the run, but
Speaker 3: here's the problem Idaho. While that they're Bowl eligible as
Speaker 3: a Sun Belt team, everything is very weird in Idaho
Speaker 3: and Idaho under Paul Patrino they have the best passing
Speaker 3: offense in the Sun Belt. But I don't think defensively
Speaker 3: Idaho is there, especially giving up bigger plays. I like
Speaker 3: Colorado State big, something like forty four to twenty one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I don't think it favors Idaho on offense or defense.
Speaker 4: From what it's worth, my hunch is that this game
Speaker 4: means a lot to them being so it is an
Speaker 4: in state kind of thing. So it wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 4: if they cover thirteen and a half.
Speaker 3: Potentially they're second to last FBS Bowl game in a
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I just feel like Colorado State's got got
Speaker 4: a little too much. So I'm gonna do we agree,
Speaker 4: We do agree. I'm gonna go Colorado State thirty nine points.
Speaker 3: Dan, and the players in this game will be going
Speaker 3: to a gift suite. They'll be getting a backpack tie
Speaker 3: is your prediction? Oaklear Ogio gonna go both. It is
Speaker 3: just Oakley, a beanie, a football, and proof eye wear sunglasses.
Speaker 3: So they'll be walking away from this.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: You ever been to Bois? I haven't been to Boise.
Speaker 1: I've heard great things though.
Speaker 3: I've been to Boise a few times. It's a it's
Speaker 3: a pretty fun town. It will dawn on you after
Speaker 3: a little while you're like, oh, this is Caucasia. This
Speaker 3: is as far as the eye can see, it is Caucasia.
Speaker 3: So there is that element. But other than that, it's
Speaker 3: a it's a good enough place.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. So we're both going to Colorado State.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're prepared to give like an exact,
Speaker 4: an exact readout of where your confidence points are.
Speaker 3: On all these games. I don't have it in front
Speaker 3: of me. I'm gonna take a picture.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna snapchat out this little grind that
Speaker 4: I've drawn, which is a mess.
Speaker 1: But level of confidence here? Are you very? Are you medium?
Speaker 1: Are you low? Confident?
Speaker 3: I am upper? I'm pretty confident in Colorado State here?
Speaker 1: Okay? That works? Popeyes Bahamas bowl mm hmm. Your Popeyes
Speaker 1: chicken fan.
Speaker 3: I mean not like I am for Blue Apron, but
Speaker 3: my Popeyes fan. Ah. Yeah, I don't really go to
Speaker 3: I don't really go to fast food. Places all that often.
Speaker 3: But if somebody presented me with a bag of Popeyes
Speaker 3: right now, I'd be pretty happy. I like Popeyes, like
Speaker 3: Chick fil A my number one in terms of just
Speaker 3: a chicken, tender fry and biscuit order. Maybe Bojangles, Bojangles
Speaker 3: and maybe Bojangles.
Speaker 4: I feel like this is the next frontier for me
Speaker 4: because obviously I like fried chicken. Mm hmm, no problems
Speaker 4: with fried chicken. I'm fairly limited though, in terms of
Speaker 4: what I've actually had a chance to try. There is
Speaker 4: a Popeyes nearby, but mostly my my chicken experience has
Speaker 4: been Chick fil A. I don't even know if that's
Speaker 4: considered the same category here.
Speaker 1: But Popeyes is very good.
Speaker 4: Haven't been to Popeyes. I have been to Crowns Fried Chicken.
Speaker 4: You ever hear Grounds Fried Chicken? No, absolutely not. Crowns
Speaker 4: Fried Chicken, I believe is an establishment in the Philly area.
Speaker 4: And we talked about our late night drinking endeavors after
Speaker 4: the Pisman ceremony.
Speaker 1: I had a little bit of.
Speaker 4: A late night adventure at a Crowns Fried Chicken. They
Speaker 4: have like ninety four fast meals on the scrolling marquee
Speaker 4: behind the registrate. I've never seen anything like it. I'm
Speaker 4: wondering if anyone out there has had a similar experience.
Speaker 4: Not really good chicken, but the menu slash ordering experience
Speaker 4: is unique.
Speaker 1: We'll say, what does that mean unique?
Speaker 4: It means they've got every possible permutation available by a
Speaker 4: number code behind the register. It's a little confusing.
Speaker 3: After a few drinks, you know who, I really like Ty,
Speaker 3: and then we'll get to the game. I really like canes, canes, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: raising canes the chicken tender chains never had it. Oh really,
Speaker 3: it's a focus on tendo's and good sauces. You can
Speaker 3: get like a hunt tendos in a bag and just
Speaker 3: go crazy, really good.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, speaking of fried chicken, Popeye' Bahama Bull
Speaker 4: Nasau Bahamas Thomas Robinson Stadium. I don't know much about
Speaker 4: either of these teams.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest. It's Odiu's first ball ever, Odius.
Speaker 4: It is, I believe, Eastern Michigan's first Bowl since nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty seven.
Speaker 3: They've been trashed for quite some time. I don't know
Speaker 3: a whole lot about either of these teams. I'm not
Speaker 3: even gonna pretend we're all friends here. Anything that I
Speaker 3: would say at this point would be disingenuous.
Speaker 4: All I know is this All Dominion's got a pretty
Speaker 4: good offense. And for Eastern Michigan, they've got a quarterback
Speaker 4: named Brogan Roeback Brogan, and if you abbreviate their name,
Speaker 4: it's EMU.
Speaker 3: This is true. They improved on defense this year. They're
Speaker 3: a decent passing team. EMU is they're an Ipsilante. I
Speaker 3: went to a very bad strip club in Ipsilante many
Speaker 3: many years ago after on my Yes I tour guide
Speaker 3: days and it was very strange. I have ODU here
Speaker 3: forty five forty and that is even. And I look
Speaker 3: this up. How many teams with a winning record has
Speaker 3: Old Dominion played this year and they're to reach their
Speaker 3: first ever Bowl game?
Speaker 1: Four?
Speaker 3: That'd be two teams whoa two teams with a winning
Speaker 3: record FBS teams excuse me, with the winning record, So
Speaker 3: there is that element to listen. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: sell them short. Getting to a bowl is a thing,
Speaker 3: getting to your first ball. It's a fun thing for
Speaker 3: this uh, this school and fan base. I have ODU
Speaker 3: winning forty five forty A bit of a shootout in
Speaker 3: the Bahamas would be a fun game.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go o to you to win their first
Speaker 4: bowl game. But I'm not pretending here.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm gonna go five points, five
Speaker 1: confidence points in this game.
Speaker 3: Okay, Popeye's Bahamas ball, give sweet Swell insulated drink bottle. Swell,
Speaker 3: it's s apostrophe w.
Speaker 7: E l L.
Speaker 3: Huh so well okay, okay, insulated drink bottle, which, Okay,
Speaker 3: I think that's good. A jaba jaba bluetooth speaker or speakers. Okay,
Speaker 3: drawstring backpack. I'd like a full backpack. That's give me minimum,
Speaker 3: full backpack, beach towel and a bowl pin. I at
Speaker 3: least tell me if you're giving away like one hundred
Speaker 3: dollars gift card to the to the Popeye's nearest, the
Speaker 3: ODU or EMU campus, give me that'd be cool.
Speaker 4: Have you tried they mentioned the insulated drinking bottle? Have
Speaker 4: you tried any of those vacuum sealed cups yet?
Speaker 1: I don't like they keep the ice cubes in there
Speaker 1: all day.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you could buy I don't think I
Speaker 4: could buy the super expensive brand. You can buy the
Speaker 4: generic brand off off Amazon, not saying their name because
Speaker 4: they haven't sponsored the show. Absolutely, but I'm telling you
Speaker 4: it's a wonder of science. I don't know how they
Speaker 4: figured out how to do that. I got one at work.
Speaker 1: It's awesome.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Locky Martin, arm Forces Ball Wow, Fort Worth.
Speaker 1: Texas m G.
Speaker 4: Carter Stadium. Navy nine and four versus Louisiana Tech eight
Speaker 4: and five. This one's a pick them, Yes, pick them.
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of reason to like Louisiana
Speaker 4: Tech in this game. First off, you've got Navy's Will Worth,
Speaker 4: who broke his foot and is out for the year.
Speaker 4: He was their quarterback, their best player. He did an
Speaker 4: impressive job taking the baton from Keenan Reynolds, who was
Speaker 4: all world everything a year ago. They've also got Tonio
Speaker 4: Gully I believe is how you pronounce his name. He
Speaker 4: was a slot back. He's done for the year as well.
Speaker 4: They're going to feel that loss in the run game.
Speaker 4: Plus Nav's lost to in a row, both to Temple
Speaker 4: and Army. On the other side, I think we've got
Speaker 4: a Louisiana Tech team that I'm gonna end up picking here.
Speaker 4: They closed out the year by losing the Southern Miss
Speaker 4: and Western Kentucky. They actually beat Western earlier in the
Speaker 4: year in a shootout. The beat on them, I think
Speaker 4: is that they're gonna score a ton of points and
Speaker 4: give up a ton of points. Yeah, it's not anything
Speaker 4: new for Louisiana tack. That's sort of the team they've
Speaker 4: been for a while now, right.
Speaker 3: That is correct. Their run defense is actually pretty good.
Speaker 3: They got run on by wku now who doesn't have
Speaker 3: their coach, but consistently in that game. Otherwise they've been
Speaker 3: very good against the run at least, and maybe he's
Speaker 3: not going to throw the ball a ton, especially not
Speaker 3: without will Worth. LA Tech two fourteen hundred plus yard
Speaker 3: receivers from Carlos Henderson and Trent Taylor. That is not
Speaker 3: a usual thing, so good on them and quarterback Ryan Higgins.
Speaker 3: A big year late season swoon plus the injured quarterback
Speaker 3: kind of feels like this is the game. Navy just
Speaker 3: doesn't want to be there, and that paired with the
Speaker 3: fact that they have the worst pass defense in the
Speaker 3: American I like LA Tech here by double digits. I'm
Speaker 3: going thirty seven to twenty four. LA Tech, whoa pretty
Speaker 3: confidently okay like upper middle damn in Mike pool.
Speaker 4: I'm going La Tech here too. I don't have nearly
Speaker 4: as much confidence in the pick, but I feel like
Speaker 4: the combination of Navy's best player being out with really
Speaker 4: a bad pass defense against a good passing offense like
Speaker 4: Louisiana Tech. I am going to take La Tech to
Speaker 4: win here. I'm going to say seven confidence points. Okay,
Speaker 4: what's the gift situation?
Speaker 1: Looking like?
Speaker 3: I just looked it up because there's a product I'm
Speaker 3: not familiar with, and I don't know how I feel
Speaker 3: about it. It is gift sweet obviously. Finn Rod's Festive
Speaker 3: Weere holiday sweater, Finn Rod's Finn Rod f I n
Speaker 3: R O find. It's like it's Neon with snowflakes and
Speaker 3: snow snowmen and it's a very I'm not seeing the
Speaker 3: exact sweater, but it is. It is is weird, it
Speaker 3: is colorful, it is loud, and.
Speaker 1: See that's just trying. That's trying a little too hard.
Speaker 3: You get a football and a beanie on top of that.
Speaker 3: I think Lockheed Martin, for all the cash that they
Speaker 3: appear to have, do a little bit better, do a
Speaker 3: little bit better. You're building fighter fighter jets. Take some
Speaker 3: of that cash not as many as they used to,
Speaker 3: but not as many. Yeah, okay, huh. Speaking of being frugal, Dan,
Speaker 3: let's go to the Dollar General Bowl. I love a
Speaker 3: good Dollar Store by the way. Yeah me too, Dollar Store,
Speaker 3: Yeah me too.
Speaker 4: Dollar General Bowl in Mobile, Alabama and lad People Stadium. Friday,
Speaker 4: December twenty third, eight pm on ESPN. We've got the
Speaker 4: Troy Trojans at nine and three. They are a three
Speaker 4: and a half point favorite against the Ohio Bobcats, who
Speaker 4: finished the year at eight and five.
Speaker 1: Dan, We've been pretty high on Troy this year, haven't
Speaker 1: we love Neil Brown and the Trojans? Yeah? How you
Speaker 1: feel about this game?
Speaker 3: I think I actually may like Ohio a little bit
Speaker 3: more than Troy after the app State win. They won
Speaker 3: that game twenty eight, twenty four. Late, they had a
Speaker 3: letdown situation which they just sort of got trounced by
Speaker 3: Arkansas State. But they're the thing about the Trojans is
Speaker 3: they're pretty good at everything. They're not great at any
Speaker 3: one thing, but they're good at being not bad, if
Speaker 3: that may sense. Ohio improved a ton on defense this year.
Speaker 3: Their run defense was actually like lockdown, lights out, really
Speaker 3: really good. Pass defense was all right. If you remember,
Speaker 3: Ohio made it to the MAC Championship game and stayed
Speaker 3: with Western Michigan, which is not an easy thing to
Speaker 3: do in twenty sixteen. And the big thing is Ohio
Speaker 3: is excellent in the red zone and Troy not so
Speaker 3: good in the red zone. So offense was a struggle
Speaker 3: for Ohio. But if you remember about Ohio as well,
Speaker 3: they were net connected with Tennessee early on in the
Speaker 3: season in Knoxville. So they play well they come to play.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Ohio here outright. I think they
Speaker 3: upset the Trojans twenty four to twenty. We've been hanging
Speaker 3: around too much. Big statement in lad peeples tie.
Speaker 4: We've been hanging around too much. Who didn't almost beat Tennessee,
Speaker 4: by the way, that's true, fair. I don't know how
Speaker 4: much of a badge of honor that is. But still
Speaker 4: they beat Toledo, which is a good win. They hung
Speaker 4: tough with Western Kentucky. I think in terms of on
Speaker 4: field product, both teams have played like garbage over the.
Speaker 1: Last month of the year. Look at what both of
Speaker 1: them have done.
Speaker 4: Neither one has been impressive throughout the course of November.
Speaker 4: For Troy, though, it's been a fairly drastic drop off,
Speaker 4: and I think that's what scares me most.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 4: I am gonna side with you. I am taking the
Speaker 4: Bobcats to win this one outright, but I am not
Speaker 4: uber confident in it. I'm gonna say six confidence points here. Okay,
Speaker 4: give me the Bobcats.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm I'm right around there myself.
Speaker 4: So the question is, though, is this gift suite from
Speaker 4: Dollar General better than the gift suite from the people
Speaker 4: that make fighter jets and the like?
Speaker 1: Without questions? Y?
Speaker 3: Really, we're talking about a leather Duffel bag. Okay, great,
Speaker 3: you're going away for a weekend. You going to overnight trip,
Speaker 3: wonderful leather Duffel bag, Pure Boom wireless headphones. Have I
Speaker 3: heard of pure Boom? I have not, but wireless headphones?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good enough gift. A Wilson
Speaker 3: Souvenir game Ball, RTIC soft pack forty cooler.
Speaker 1: See that's the thing. That's what I was telling you about.
Speaker 1: Oh that is the Arctic Yeah, the vacuum see Arctic. Oh,
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: Art okay, artic okay, and a Timely Watch company watch.
Speaker 1: See that's a pretty good stock up there.
Speaker 3: I'm totally good. I would rather go to the Dollar
Speaker 3: General Bowl?
Speaker 1: Where is this? One? More time? Dollar General Bowl was
Speaker 1: in Mobile, Alabama? Nice town.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, I'd rather go to four Worth than Mobile,
Speaker 3: but I'd rather have this gift bag.
Speaker 1: Absolutely Dollar General doing it up. Good for them?
Speaker 2: Yes, all right?
Speaker 4: Christmas Eve eight pm on ESPN, We've got Hawaii at
Speaker 4: home in the Hawaii Bowl in Hawaii in a Loja
Speaker 4: stadium against Middle Tennessee State. So Hawaii went six and seven.
Speaker 4: Middle Tennessee went eight and four.
Speaker 1: I like Hawaii.
Speaker 4: I root for Hawaii. They beat Air Force this year,
Speaker 4: which was a nice win. They also played a surprisingly
Speaker 4: brutal schedule. True, this concludes all the niceties I have
Speaker 4: to say about Hawaii football this year.
Speaker 1: Oh man, really that's it? Okay?
Speaker 3: Well, ty, I know the people are clamoring for some analytics,
Speaker 3: and let me tell you something. Hawaii top twenty and
Speaker 3: offensive and defensive touchdowns per playment.
Speaker 1: Throw that out the window.
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, not touchdowns per play. It's simple. You want
Speaker 3: a touchdown. You want to be efficient scoring touchdowns and
Speaker 3: preventing them. That's that's fine. The Hawaii offense is nothing special.
Speaker 3: The defense was decent enough against the pass, which is
Speaker 3: good news. Brent Stockstill, who broke his collarbone, I think
Speaker 3: earlier on in November, maybe back for Middle Tennessee, h
Speaker 3: not Middle Tennessee State tie. Middle Tennessee. Excuse me, Middle Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Hawaii was good enough in the red zone. Middle Tennessee.
Speaker 3: It's a really good offense if you remember the name
Speaker 3: my Tavius Mathers, who transfer from Mole miss had a
Speaker 3: very nice season for Middle Tennessee. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 3: mt I'm going with Middle Tennessee thirty to twenty seven
Speaker 3: and a nail bier far far away from I think
Speaker 3: it's Murphy's bro in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: I think they take it.
Speaker 4: What concerns me a little bit is that Middle Tennessee
Speaker 4: played their best game of the year back in September. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and ever since then it's sort of been a story
Speaker 4: of diminishing returns. They fought Western Kentucky, the only lost
Speaker 4: by one. They beat Missouri, which is a win over
Speaker 4: an SEC team. Great, fine, but you mentioned they lost.
Speaker 4: Brent Stockstill will have to wait and see on his front,
Speaker 4: and it's been a bit of a struggle bus on
Speaker 4: offense all throughout November. They did close out the year
Speaker 4: by hanging seventy seven on FAU, which I think is
Speaker 4: a nice sign if we're examining trends here moving into
Speaker 4: Bowl season. I still like Middle Tennessee. I'm not as
Speaker 4: high on them as I expected to be when I
Speaker 4: just kind of looked at this matchup from Afar, when
Speaker 4: I actually dug in, I wasn't as gung ho on
Speaker 4: Middle Tennessee. But if it were a situation where I
Speaker 4: felt like they were packing it in, maybe I'd be
Speaker 4: swayed to go Hawaii.
Speaker 1: I just don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's the case here. I think this
Speaker 4: is a story of a team learning to play with
Speaker 4: a freshman quarterback, and they have been getting better through
Speaker 4: that process. So I'm reasonably confident here. Not as confident
Speaker 4: as I expected to be, but still confident enough that
Speaker 4: I'm gonna know the big guns.
Speaker 1: Let's go thirty four points? Wow?
Speaker 4: Are they still the Blue Raiders? I believe, so give
Speaker 4: me thirty four in the Blue Raiders Dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wonder if Hawaii players are going to be tired
Speaker 3: from having no benches in the fourth quarter the third
Speaker 3: quarter of that game at this point and it should
Speaker 3: also be noted, here's something that's great about this game,
Speaker 3: the whatever it's called, the Hawaii Bowl.
Speaker 1: I've gone to warmer.
Speaker 3: Places, beachside places, and I've forgotten bathing suits because I
Speaker 3: didn't think I was going to go to the beach.
Speaker 3: Then we ended up at the beach. Guess what, the
Speaker 3: Hawaii Ball They've got you covered. So we're talking about
Speaker 3: an electronics gift, Sweet Oakley backpack, Wholebrook sunglasses, A Tory
Speaker 3: Richard a Loha shirt. I just looked it up. Tie
Speaker 3: Tory Richard, Tory Richard a Loha shirt. The shirt is
Speaker 3: just a dad's shirt as hell, but it's as far
Speaker 3: as those go, it's pretty sharp. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 3: it's pretty sharp. A beach towel, pro athletic swim trunks
Speaker 3: and team performance gare So they've got you set for
Speaker 3: your for your time off in Hawaii. Hmm, okay, Sunglasses,
Speaker 3: beach towel, Wyan shirt. See, at least it's like a
Speaker 3: Thematic utility gift bag. The Lockheed Martin sweater to me,
Speaker 3: is perplexing. Come on now, maybe they're maybe they're cutting CTHS.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, seems weak to me. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, uh Saint Petersburg Bowl. Oh okay. Was this
Speaker 1: the game that people were urging us to try and sponsor.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's too late.
Speaker 6: Tie.
Speaker 1: We can call it the Nioki.
Speaker 4: Bowl, the Yuckey Ball, or the Bowl of niok There
Speaker 4: you go, Saint Petersburg Bowl in Saint Petersburg, Florida. This
Speaker 4: one's on Monday, December twenty six. It's at eleven am
Speaker 4: bright and early day after Christmas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on esp and Mississippi State.
Speaker 4: They are five and seven on the year, but they're
Speaker 4: going bowling and they're a twelve and a half point favorite.
Speaker 1: Against Miami, Ohio.
Speaker 4: They finished six and six, Dan, tell the people the
Speaker 4: fun stat about Miami, Ohio.
Speaker 3: Miami of Ohio is also the name of a city
Speaker 3: in Florida, Miami of Ohio, Florida. No Miami started the
Speaker 3: season oh and six. I'm a dumb person, Ty, Miami
Speaker 3: of Ohio started oh and six, and they finished six
Speaker 3: to zero to get ball eligible at six and six. Again, Ty,
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying. Give me some d analytics.
Speaker 3: I got them for you.
Speaker 2: Ty.
Speaker 3: Thank you to another top twenty both offense and defense
Speaker 3: in terms of improvement touchdowns for And this is where
Speaker 3: I turn the floor over to you. Tell me about
Speaker 3: your favorite Gus Raglan interception this year.
Speaker 1: Ty, that's because there were none, Dan, there were zero.
Speaker 3: There were zero Miami of Ohio interceptions. But they cannot
Speaker 3: run the ball.
Speaker 4: So they can't run the ball. But your favorite stat
Speaker 4: about them starting zero to six and finishing six and zero.
Speaker 4: A big part of that turnaround story is because of
Speaker 4: that quarterback change to Gus Raglan. He's a sophomore. He
Speaker 4: played the last six games, completed sixty two percent of
Speaker 4: his passes through fifteen touchdowns to zero interceptions.
Speaker 1: Hell of a job by him, Hell of a job
Speaker 1: by Chuck.
Speaker 4: Martin, kind of keeping this thing together and getting Miami
Speaker 4: Ohio even to a bowl game.
Speaker 1: I believe they are motivated.
Speaker 4: I don't see how you could see it differently after
Speaker 4: they won their last six games.
Speaker 1: Clearly though, this is going.
Speaker 4: To be a challenge for them going up against a
Speaker 4: guy like Nick Fitzgerald. Yes, I think he takes over
Speaker 4: this game. Ultimately, think they win. If I'm betting the
Speaker 4: points spread here, twelve and a half feels like a lot.
Speaker 4: I could see Miami Ohio fighting the Bulldogs here for
Speaker 4: a while, But the best player on the field is
Speaker 4: going to be Nick Fitzgerald. And especially with a team
Speaker 4: like Miami Ohio, which is so one dimensional still against
Speaker 4: an SEC team, I don't think that bodes well. So
Speaker 4: I'm gonna unload again and I'm going to say thirty
Speaker 4: one points. I don't know why I'm doing that, but
Speaker 4: thirty one points here Mississippi State, lock it up.
Speaker 3: Wow, you're not about that for education, Fred Ross, You're
Speaker 3: not about a J.
Speaker 1: Jefferson. J Jefferson might be the best player on the field.
Speaker 4: To me, I do like a good freeducation, But I
Speaker 4: still think miss Gerald is the is the X factor here, Ty.
Speaker 3: This podcast is about many things, and not the least
Speaker 3: of which is inspiration. And did Mississippi Mississippi State let
Speaker 3: not getting to six wins stop them from getting to
Speaker 3: a bowl game?
Speaker 1: No it didn't.
Speaker 3: I ask you that type did Mississippi State. And this
Speaker 3: is for the kids out there, all the kids out
Speaker 3: there who think that you can't post the worst SEC
Speaker 3: pass defense and still.
Speaker 1: Get to a bowl game. Nah, absolutely not.
Speaker 3: Do not think like that, because here is Mississippi State
Speaker 3: completely unable to stop anyone from passing on them. After
Speaker 3: many DZ takes off from Miami and they hire Peter Sermon.
Speaker 1: They still get to a bowl game. They still get
Speaker 1: to Saint Pete.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Misssippi State here by seventeen eighteen points.
Speaker 1: I have at thirty eight twenty.
Speaker 4: Thirty eight twenty Okay, Yeah, what's the gift situation in
Speaker 4: Saint Petersburg?
Speaker 1: So A J.
Speaker 3: Jefferson and the fre Education will be receiving a trip
Speaker 3: to a gift suite. Oakley turbine sunglasses, A trip to
Speaker 3: a gift A trip to a gift suite. That's what
Speaker 3: it says, gift suite. Okay, Oakley turbine sunglasses and an
Speaker 3: Enduro twenty backpack in Duro twenty sounds like budget condoms.
Speaker 3: It sounds like many of them. I'm looking up Oakley
Speaker 3: turbine sunglasses right now. It kind of sounds like, if
Speaker 3: you need to name it the Oakley turbine, they're probably
Speaker 3: not going to be super cool. But let's see, all right,
Speaker 3: they must somewhere in the marketing boast that they're aerodynamic.
Speaker 3: They are Guy Fieri as hell tie Oh boy. The
Speaker 3: turbines like the like the old blade style no, not
Speaker 3: quite like that, but like there's sunglasses that you would
Speaker 3: wear on the back of your head, you know, hanging
Speaker 3: your ears. That's what it looks like. There's sunglasses that
Speaker 3: Stephen from Laguna Beach would wear.
Speaker 1: Okay, right, I got you.
Speaker 3: Did you watch Laguna Beach the Real Orange County?
Speaker 1: I did a little bit here and there. Yeah. Oh
Speaker 1: it was such a good show. Tie that's in your
Speaker 1: old stomping ground, isn't it.
Speaker 3: I mean it's about an hour and a half for
Speaker 3: my parents, but it's still deeter with the fashion shows. Tye,
Speaker 3: are you kidding me? Yeah, you're not reading play a
Speaker 3: game based on Laguna Beach the real Orange County called
Speaker 3: dounzo or not done.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so it is important we will do that again. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 4: Quick Lane Bull, oh god, oh god, Quickleain Bowl Detroit
Speaker 4: day after Christmas, talk about a turn in the stocking
Speaker 4: Ford Field. The day after Christmas two thirty on ESPN,
Speaker 4: Maryland six and six a two point favorite, somehow, some
Speaker 4: way over Boston College six and six. Dan. This one
Speaker 4: I think is neck and neck with Florida Iowa for
Speaker 4: worst bowl game of the year.
Speaker 3: It really shocks that not only are both Maryland and
Speaker 3: Boston College Bowl eligible, but they play each other like
Speaker 3: we're quarantining this technicality. Do you have nice things to say?
Speaker 1: I mean, this.
Speaker 4: Game is really evenly meshed, and it's not this it's
Speaker 4: not a badge of honor. But seriously, they've got identical
Speaker 4: records in the S and P plus Maryland I believe
Speaker 4: is eighty seventh and BC is eighty eighth. The point
Speaker 4: spread as this one damn near a pick'm these teams
Speaker 4: deserve each other.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's they're the worst of bowl games. They deserve
Speaker 3: each other. It's a very equally matched contest. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: take Boston College. I don't feel great about it. It's
Speaker 3: like a one confidence point kind of thing. I just
Speaker 3: believe the best entity in this game is going to
Speaker 3: be their defense, and I'm willing to wager one single
Speaker 3: solitary point on it. So do you foresee a bunch
Speaker 3: of guys acting like dudes?
Speaker 1: I believe?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna go with Maryland. They didn't take
Speaker 3: really huge steps forward or back. It was kind of
Speaker 3: an atrocious season. They ran the ball all right at times,
Speaker 3: especially early on, but that was about it. Boston College
Speaker 3: got way worse defensively.
Speaker 1: Without Don Brown, they got way orse.
Speaker 3: They got a little bit better on offense just by
Speaker 3: not having everybody go down with charred bones. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go Maryland twenty one to seventeen.
Speaker 1: Twenty one seven. That's a lot of points for this game.
Speaker 3: A lot of points for this game. And listen, Detroit
Speaker 3: is not the sexiest destination to go in the middle
Speaker 3: of winter, at the beginning of winter. But I had
Speaker 3: a pretty good time in Detroit a few months ago.
Speaker 3: And you know what, at the very least, they're gonna
Speaker 3: be walking away with a bunch of stuff because they
Speaker 3: feel bad that they're sending people to Detroit. Two hundred
Speaker 3: dollars Best Buy gift card, JBL headphones, life size fat
Speaker 3: head decil for each decal for each participant of his
Speaker 3: own likeness, sweet, a hoodie, a winter hat, Rock Them Apparel, socks,
Speaker 3: a backpack, and a vintage football. You know what, Ty,
Speaker 3: it might sound stupid, I love that they're getting socks
Speaker 3: because you're only as comfortable as your feet, especially in
Speaker 3: the cold. They are thoughtful good for Quicklane is Quicklane
Speaker 3: like a lube company? What is Quicklane?
Speaker 4: I believe Quicklane is is like an install loube Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: insta loup hotline. The Camping World Independence Bowl dan mm hmm, Shreveport,
Speaker 4: Louisiana in Independent Stadium. It's a clash between NC State
Speaker 4: at six and six and a four point favorite over
Speaker 4: Vandy at six and six ten. NC State coming off
Speaker 4: a big win over in state North Carolina to close
Speaker 4: out their season. Vandy coming off two giant wins over
Speaker 4: Ole Miss and Tennessee to close out their season. Both
Speaker 4: these teams are plucky as hell. They're plucky as hell. Combined,
Speaker 4: they have twelve losses. Eight of those losses were one
Speaker 4: score games.
Speaker 3: So the d Analytics pluckability factor for North Carolina State
Speaker 3: is four point one ty fourth. Okay, no, there is
Speaker 3: not a pluckability index.
Speaker 1: No, you're right.
Speaker 3: You know, North Carolina State a field goal away, as
Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll back fans know from beating Clemson. You
Speaker 3: said four point favorite in this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: NC State's offense got worse, and that's not a great
Speaker 3: sign against the Vanderbilt defense that is, for the most part, excellence.
Speaker 3: I don't say that likely, I don't say that lightly.
Speaker 1: Excuse me.
Speaker 3: Vandy's offense got better over the course of the season
Speaker 3: that did struggle initially, I have Vandy not only covering
Speaker 3: this spread, tie outright and lock it up?
Speaker 1: Whoa absolutely look of the week? Okay, all right? Ok
Speaker 1: twenty three to thirteen doors. How about that.
Speaker 4: NC State dan went two and five in their last
Speaker 4: seven games after beating Notre Dame. The nd stank shouldn't
Speaker 4: be overlooked if we're considering these intangibles here. Yeah, in
Speaker 4: Bowl season and Vandy was fired up, fired up with
Speaker 4: how they closed out their season against Tennessee. Vandy to
Speaker 4: me is a cool story, a cool story with how
Speaker 4: I feel they turned the corner late in the year.
Speaker 4: People are excited about Derek Mason where he could be
Speaker 4: taking this program now moving forward. I'm not quite as
Speaker 4: tigh on Vandy as you are, but I do like
Speaker 4: them outright, and I do like them to the tune
Speaker 4: of fifteen confidence points dan.
Speaker 1: Ooh okay, that's significant.
Speaker 3: And this is also a reminder don't say anything bad
Speaker 3: about Shreveport, Louisiana or Shreveport's owned. Tim Brando will hunt
Speaker 3: you down. He will hunt you down, and I imagine
Speaker 3: he has blow darts. I do imagine that.
Speaker 1: Ah, what are the.
Speaker 3: Gifts nothing too special? Come on Shreveport Gift Suite, timely
Speaker 3: Watch company Watch which for my money, tie is no MVMT.
Speaker 3: A new era skull cap and football a football or
Speaker 3: just the gift of football. It just has singular football.
Speaker 1: Do you ever wear a skull cap?
Speaker 3: Is that it's like a tighter version of a beanie? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like real. I don't like that as much. I've
Speaker 3: got a weirdly shaped head.
Speaker 1: Like a second skin atop your head. You don't like that?
Speaker 8: Now?
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Speaker 4: Heart of Dallas Bowl, Dallas, Texas Cotton Bowl Stadium, Tuesday,
Speaker 4: December twenty seventh, at high noon on ESPN, it is
Speaker 4: the Army Black Knights against the North Texas Mean Green
Speaker 4: Army seven and five North Texas five and seven. Army
Speaker 4: a nine point favorite.
Speaker 8: Dan.
Speaker 4: It's going to be their second Bowl appearance since nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety six. Dan, it's up against a team that I
Speaker 4: feel is ill equipped to handle the Army rushing attack.
Speaker 4: So I'm heavy Army. I'm heavy to the tune of
Speaker 4: thirty seven confidence points, Dan, lock them up? Wow, yeah
Speaker 4: really yeah, yeah?
Speaker 3: I think I think Army wins this game. North Texas
Speaker 3: a good story. First year coach comes over from North Carolina.
Speaker 3: North Carolina's own offense, losing Seth Latrelle took a bit
Speaker 3: of a step back at times. They've improved, but they're
Speaker 3: still sort of underwhelming everywhere. It's going to take a
Speaker 3: little bit to get better. Army can certainly run. We
Speaker 3: just saw what they could do against Navy, and they
Speaker 3: stopped the pass relatively well enough. So I think I
Speaker 3: like Army as well by a couple touchdowns. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say twenty eight to fourteen something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3: It says gift suite a football, and I don't understand
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Speaker 4: We also may or may not have a solid verbal
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Speaker 4: All right, so we mentioned Army. We've got one final
Speaker 4: nugget for all y'all. As we mentioned on the last
Speaker 4: two shows, our good friend Taylor from Talking Terps from Zardcast,
Speaker 4: particularly from the saliverbal He's been helping us for years now.
Speaker 4: We sent him in our place down to the Army
Speaker 4: Navy game. He went around, got some interviews. He did
Speaker 4: an admirable job on the snapchat and now, at long last,
Speaker 4: here's a little audio segment he clipped together to play
Speaker 4: aloud on the verbal here's our boy, Taylor down our army.
Speaker 2: Can you describe what you're wearing? I got my old
Speaker 2: grad T shirt on Why? Why just the old grad
Speaker 2: T shirt? Today we're gonna beat Navy.
Speaker 1: Why.
Speaker 2: How are you feeling right now? Are you cold? And
Speaker 2: are you Are you resolved against the winter? I'm resolved.
Speaker 9: I'm spending quite a bit of time up at Fort
Speaker 9: drum Well north of here. And this is our This
Speaker 9: is our general kind of spring highs usually like early June,
Speaker 9: late May. So this is summer right now.
Speaker 2: So they're gonna break the streak this year. This is
Speaker 2: the year they do it. Yes, this is the year.
Speaker 2: Everything else has happened this year. Why not, Hayberballers.
Speaker 10: This is Chief reverb Engineer Taylor Schwink coming at you
Speaker 10: from Charms City, USA, Baltimore, Maryland for the twenty sixteen
Speaker 10: edition of Army Navy. I'm on the scene at USA's
Speaker 10: media row here in the Baltimore Convention Center, chatting with
Speaker 10: a couple national media types. We're going to talk about
Speaker 10: the game, college football in general, the playoffs, and what
Speaker 10: everyone's watching on TV. Let's go, joined by the Desen
Speaker 10: Howard of College Game Day fame here on the solid verbal.
Speaker 2: How are you doing? Sorry, I'm doing fantastic. How about
Speaker 2: to so doing well?
Speaker 1: Doing well?
Speaker 10: Thanks for joining me? Thanks for having me join us?
Speaker 10: Now Klay Travis out kick the coverage?
Speaker 2: How are you, sir? Thanks for joining me. I'm excellent.
Speaker 2: How are you doing well? Doing well?
Speaker 10: Okay, we're here with the great John Feinstein, author, columnists,
Speaker 10: multi media mogul. These days, you're you're a radio guy,
Speaker 10: you're a TV guy.
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: Good to be here, Taylor.
Speaker 11: Thanks Nate Boyer, Army Green Ray Texas Longhorn five minutes
Speaker 11: with the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 2: So you've been How many Army Navy games have been?
Speaker 1: This will be my twenty fourth.
Speaker 2: I first went.
Speaker 8: In nineteen ninety and that was where I got the
Speaker 8: idea being at the game for the first time to
Speaker 8: do a civil war. And I've been to every game since.
Speaker 8: The kids who play in this game, in nine hundred
Speaker 8: and ninety nine cases out of a thousand will not
Speaker 8: play in the NFL. The only uniform they're were when
Speaker 8: they graduate, it'll be Army, Navy or Marines. They have volunteered,
Speaker 8: as have all eight thousand cadets in Midshipman who will
Speaker 8: be in at stadium tomorrow to die for their country
Speaker 8: if they have to. They don't want to, but they
Speaker 8: understand that if we go to war, and we've been
Speaker 8: at war since I wrote a civil war on a
Speaker 8: number of occasions, they will be put very likely in
Speaker 8: harm's way. I've had many the kids I wrote about
Speaker 8: have been to Iraq, have been to Afghanistan. One of them,
Speaker 8: Kevin Norman, who was a punter at Army, died overseas.
Speaker 1: So it's different than any other game.
Speaker 10: Do you have like a preference, maybe a bias Army Navy?
Speaker 10: Do you go one way or the other?
Speaker 6: You know, I'm really torn between the two, to be honest,
Speaker 6: because my football mentor was actually the head coach at
Speaker 6: Army in the mid nineteen seventy He's a man named
Speaker 6: Homer Smith. He was the head coach there from nineteen
Speaker 6: seventy four to nineteen seventy eight, and I ended up
Speaker 6: being a graduate assistant at Alabama under coach Smith followed
Speaker 6: him to UCLA, and ninety percent of what I know
Speaker 6: about the game I learned from Homer Smith. Most people
Speaker 6: think it would come from Bill Belichick or Nick Saban,
Speaker 6: because I worked with those two gentlemen at the Browns
Speaker 6: right after my time with Coach, But really, Homer Smith
Speaker 6: was my number one mentor.
Speaker 12: We were in the car on Thanksgiving and we were
Speaker 12: driving to my parents' house or my sister's house, and
Speaker 12: I was talking to the two oldest boys. I mean,
Speaker 12: the two year old was in there too, but he
Speaker 12: can ignore me without any consequence. Right now, I was
Speaker 12: trying to explain to them how much we had to
Speaker 12: be thankful for, and about halfway through, my six year
Speaker 12: old just said, Dad, my iPad's not working, and so, uh,
Speaker 12: you know, obviously you try to make I thought I
Speaker 12: was doing an incredible job. I thought i'd really give
Speaker 12: him a speech that was gonna, you know, resonate with them,
Speaker 12: reverberate with them for for years to come. And instead
Speaker 12: they're just worried that their iPads aren't working.
Speaker 10: So, now that the season's winding down, you got any
Speaker 10: you got any vacations lined up?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm interested in I'm gonna go to uh
Speaker 2: to Columbia. I'm gonna go, uh may go to Columbia.
Speaker 8: By maybe anything lined up yet, but those are those
Speaker 8: are the places.
Speaker 2: That ow on my radar so far.
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, international, I like it, sir, Yes, sir. What
Speaker 10: does Gary Danielson do once the season is done? Are
Speaker 10: you catching up on TV shows? Do you have a
Speaker 10: patients lined up?
Speaker 1: A little bit of everything? Number one?
Speaker 2: But that's true.
Speaker 13: Yes, I don't get to watch much TV during football season,
Speaker 13: so a little bit of that. It's nice to have
Speaker 13: your DVR ready for you know, uh, a.
Speaker 1: Little bit of Ray Donovan, a little bit of suits,
Speaker 1: a little bit of a.
Speaker 13: Game of Thrones, you know, my my my favorite shows.
Speaker 1: So yes, that's part of it.
Speaker 13: Get back in shape a little bit, start doing my
Speaker 13: exercise a little bit more diligently, and uh play a
Speaker 13: little golf and enjoying my family time.
Speaker 10: Or walking around the parking lots between Canden Yards and
Speaker 10: M and T Bank Stadium. We're gonna find some tailgaters
Speaker 10: to talk to, uh see what they're eating, Thoughts on
Speaker 10: the game, thoughts on life. And it's really really cold
Speaker 10: out here, so let's see what they got to say,
Speaker 10: can you tell everyone what you're doing right now?
Speaker 2: Oysters?
Speaker 10: Shocking oysters? And what's your what's the proper technique to
Speaker 10: shuck oysters? For those who don't know?
Speaker 2: Not cut yourself? And is this year? Is this your
Speaker 2: heating tower over here too? It is? That's pretty serious.
Speaker 2: I'd love an oyster.
Speaker 12: All right?
Speaker 2: Go you got the hot sauce, cocktail sauce lemons.
Speaker 10: I'm just gonna I'm gonna go for one raw, all right?
Speaker 10: Can you describe what you're wearing for me? It's a
Speaker 10: ship head, a shiphead, a shiphead, a foam shiphead, shiphead?
Speaker 2: What? What kind of ship is on your head?
Speaker 1: Some kind of a destroyer?
Speaker 10: I notice you guys have a Chick fil A nugget platter.
Speaker 10: Is the Chick fil A nugget platter the number one
Speaker 10: seed for tailgating food?
Speaker 2: Had to think about it, I would like to say
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 5: I think that most people don't think about bringing Chick
Speaker 5: fil A nuggets to the tailgate, So we're ahead of
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 2: Would you mind telling us what we're standing in front
Speaker 2: of right now?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: This is the Bradley Fighting Vehicle.
Speaker 14: Till in Layman's turns we've got a twenty five millimeter
Speaker 14: Bushmaster cannon on the front. We bring himctrymen into the
Speaker 14: fight and then we support him with that twenty five
Speaker 14: millimeter cannon.
Speaker 2: Awesome, awesome, only at Army Navy. This is my pal
Speaker 2: Richie over here. How you doing, man, I'm doing pretty
Speaker 2: good to you. How are you doing great? Doing great?
Speaker 2: Army Navy?
Speaker 10: Big day in the Sherman family life. What's going on here?
Speaker 10: What do we have happening around us?
Speaker 2: So we have the tailgates of all tailgates.
Speaker 7: I think we've got three cars set up, about thirty
Speaker 7: pounds of burgers and dogs and brats, two coolers full
Speaker 7: of beer, and it's great. We've got obviously it's some
Speaker 7: Navy fans, but we do. We have a small group
Speaker 7: of Army fans here and they're always always welcome here.
Speaker 7: That's the great thing about this game, as the respect
Speaker 7: between the two teams before last year?
Speaker 2: How long was your Army Navy game streak? Thirty one
Speaker 2: straight games. Today's my forty fifth game. Right on.
Speaker 10: So I was told that you missed last year. Can
Speaker 10: you tell us why you were unable to attend last year?
Speaker 15: Well, unfortunately, I was putting up Christmas lights and was
Speaker 15: attacked by a giant beaver and fell off the ladder
Speaker 15: and broke four ribs. And despite the medications I was
Speaker 15: provided and the Jimmy Hendricks music that I was listening to,
Speaker 15: I could not attend the game and the streak was broken.
Speaker 10: Sadly, Army just won. Can you put your feelings into
Speaker 10: words at this moment?
Speaker 14: So it's phenomenal.
Speaker 2: I've been in to the Army thirteen years.
Speaker 13: I've never seen a w my first Army Navy game,
Speaker 13: and they get to win.
Speaker 9: I gotta say, I think I'm the good luck charm
Speaker 9: And I just.
Speaker 10: Wish Brandon was here to celebrate with us, because I
Speaker 10: know right now he's celebrated out there.
Speaker 2: So it's all for b Jack.
Speaker 6: I know they played this game just for him, and
Speaker 6: it just feels sober warding to know that we finally
Speaker 6: beat the hell out of that.
Speaker 1: You guys made it on the field, Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 11: We were eyeing the goalpost, but those are pretty heavily guarded,
Speaker 11: so we stayed off.
Speaker 2: But aw York.
Speaker 1: No, no, we're staying down here for the night celebrate.
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 10: So we watched the game in the press box. How
Speaker 10: many outcrip did in the press box?
Speaker 1: Stop?
Speaker 2: How many claps did you get in the press box?
Speaker 2: So you think three?
Speaker 11: I clapped three times total in two different instances. I clapped.
Speaker 11: I had a one clap early on and then stopped
Speaker 11: myself and we had a big we had a big
Speaker 11: third down conversion or a fourth down conversion. I had
Speaker 11: a double clap after that one, and but that was it.
Speaker 1: Three claps.
Speaker 11: I went down on the field with five minutes left
Speaker 11: in the game after we scored the go ahead touchdown.
Speaker 11: I clapped a lot there. Yeah my uh, my cheeks
Speaker 11: still hurt from smiling. It was a freaking awesome.
Speaker 1: Wow. There you go. I like it.
Speaker 3: I felt like I was there, Ty, and I'm glad
Speaker 3: I wasn't because it seemed cold.
Speaker 4: The verbal represented well by our good friend Taylor did
Speaker 4: a great job.
Speaker 1: I got to get to that game someday. Send him
Speaker 1: your tweets of love at ct schwink do it all right?
Speaker 4: Thank you Dan for hopping on with me helping give
Speaker 4: some insight into this next wave of bowl games.
Speaker 3: Ty, I do have actual college football breaking news. If
Speaker 3: you want to hear it, oh please, It actually deserves
Speaker 3: the sound.
Speaker 4: Okay, late breaking news.
Speaker 3: Notre Dames losing their offensive coordinator. Oh wow, Mike Sandford
Speaker 3: expected to be the next coach at Western Kentucky. SIS
Speaker 3: Pete Fammel tweeted that out about an hour ago.
Speaker 1: Good for him. What is that?
Speaker 2: Is there?
Speaker 3: Any you had some negative reactions to some play calling
Speaker 3: this year?
Speaker 4: The play calling was part of the issue this year. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but Mike Sanford's a young guy. He's got coaching in
Speaker 4: his jeans, so I don't think this is entirely unexpected.
Speaker 4: There was some smoke that maybe he would be bolting
Speaker 4: for Houston for some of the other yeah gigs that
Speaker 4: became available. I'm not surprised to see that he is
Speaker 4: getting the gig at Western Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Good move for him, all right, fair enough, good move
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 4: Okay, On that note, thank you as always for tuning
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