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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: be happy. You want to be happy for day Edith State?

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Speaker 4: Is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back

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Speaker 4: to the Solid Verbal Boys and girls. My name is

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Speaker 4: ty Hildebrant. I am joined as always by my trusted

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Speaker 4: name is Dan Rubinstein. Don't forget You can subscribe to

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Speaker 4: on uh where am I forgetting?

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Speaker 1: What am I forgetting? Facebook?

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Speaker 4: Facebook, Twitteritter, dot com, Instagram, Snapchat, A whole bunch of places.

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Speaker 3: Sir, how are you good? And I just and this

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Speaker 3: is actually breaking news. We're now on farmers only, so okay, listen.

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Speaker 3: We don't plow fields, but you get the idea. You

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Speaker 3: get you get the idea. Yeah, we're everywhere, and we

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Speaker 3: are also speaking of being everywhere. On January fourteenth, in

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Speaker 3: New York City, we will be announcing the details about

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Speaker 3: how to get tickets soon, and it is a very

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Speaker 3: limited engagement. But we are doing a live show here

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Speaker 3: in New York. I say here because I am in

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Speaker 3: guess it's some sort of like mini verbicon slash live show.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what we're calling it, but it's happening

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Speaker 3: January fourteenth. We confirm the venue. We will have details soon.

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Speaker 3: I would follow our Facebook page, I guess like our

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Speaker 3: Facebook page. I would follow Twitter, dot com slash Solid Verbal,

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Speaker 3: and I would listen to this show for details. That's

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying right now to you and to everybody.

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Speaker 4: As you said, we'll be announcing details of it. You

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Speaker 4: and I still have a lot to plan on this front,

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Speaker 4: not the least of which is how we're selling tickets.

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Speaker 4: And we're gonna get that barter system barter system right.

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Speaker 4: We'll get that figured out here in relatively short order.

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Speaker 4: But do stay tuned to all the social media channels.

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Speaker 4: That's probably the best and quickest way to get updates.

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Speaker 4: We'd love to see you there. If you're in the

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Speaker 4: New York City area, even if you're just passing through again,

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Speaker 4: details are forthcoming.

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Speaker 1: So be alive.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we've got some actual breaking news, backing news. We've

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Speaker 5: got a new head football coach at Florida Atlantic University

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Speaker 5: Dan As some have said.

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Speaker 2: The owl owls.

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Speaker 1: The new coach is Laying Kiffin.

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Speaker 3: Huh it is And this and thus concludes a pretty

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Speaker 3: exhaustive question that you've asked a lot of our guests.

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Speaker 1: How what is the over under?

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Speaker 3: What if I gave you an over under of three

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Speaker 3: and a half four and a half two and a

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Speaker 3: half years after Lane Kiffin was unceremoniously let go at

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Speaker 3: the tarm at Lax from USC, what is the number

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Speaker 3: of years that will go by before Lane Kiffin gets

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Speaker 3: a new head coaching job.

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Speaker 4: Well, that was one of the over unders, But the

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Speaker 4: big over under is still on the table. The big

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Speaker 4: over under is how many head coaching jobs will Lane

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Speaker 4: Kiffin have in his career? Sure, so it started. It

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Speaker 4: started with the Oakland Raiders.

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Speaker 1: That was one.

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Speaker 4: Then he moved to Tennessee that was two, then to

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Speaker 4: So the over under was always I believe five and

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Speaker 4: now with Florida Atlantic. You would assume if it goes

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Speaker 4: it does get interesting now as he takes his FAU job.

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Speaker 4: First and foremost, a ton of coaching talent in Florida,

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Speaker 4: In the Florida area, a lot of artillery when it

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Speaker 4: believe wrote a piece about how now at forty one,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a bad point at all, and it

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Speaker 3: But if there's enough talent to go around, and Lane

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Speaker 3: Kiffin is able to field a good to pretty good

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Speaker 3: where does he springboard? What is his Western Kentucky to Louisville.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking South Carolina. After they fire Wilmas champion

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Speaker 1: Knee jerk reaction South Carolina. But it's somewhere in the southeast.

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Speaker 4: Lane Kiff and your new coach at FAU. The state

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Speaker 4: Deshaun Kaiser did announce that he is going pro. He's

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Speaker 1: And I just feel like it was the right move

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Speaker 3: And I'm totally willing and I saw I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it was our Pyle Pete Sampson talking about that

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Speaker 3: I have his game log right here. Obviously there was

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Speaker 3: They lost by eight, but Notre Dame came crawling back.

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Speaker 3: It became apparent early in that game that it was

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Speaker 3: He finished twelfth in quarterback rating against ranked teams in

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Speaker 4: I think he's got some ripening that he needs to

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Speaker 4: his full potential. But I think a good move for him.

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Speaker 4: I think the time is right to part ways. And

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Speaker 4: you know, cik new beginning in the NFL. Is he

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Speaker 4: a first round pick. I'm not a draft expert. I

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Speaker 4: think he's probably got first round talent. I just don't

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Speaker 4: know if it's if it's quite there out in the

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Speaker 4: open yet. There's definitely room to grow. He missed a

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Speaker 4: lot of open guys is here.

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Speaker 3: And the future for Notre Dame ic quarterback now without

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Speaker 3: Shaun Kaiser on Malik Sayre, the future is Brandon Wimbush,

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Speaker 3: And behind the scenes, folks are pretty excited about Brandon Wimbush.

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Speaker 4: He's no competition, a true dual threat guy. I can't

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Speaker 4: imagine there'd be much competition. I think it's his job,

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Speaker 4: barring any kind of crazy injury or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see which direction they take the offense now

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Speaker 4: with Wimbush, he's more Zaire than I think Kaiser with

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Speaker 4: his running ability, So you know, we'll see what. We'll

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Speaker 4: see how they tailor the offense in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 3: What direction do you want to see the offense go

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Speaker 4: I want to see them get better at running the football. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that was a problem this year. I expected them to

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Speaker 4: I think that helps you unlock Wimbush as a passer.

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Speaker 3: All right, are you prepared for this? I am tie yes.

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Speaker 1: That's right. It needs a little bit of seasoning.

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Speaker 4: Ky needs a little bit of kosher salt, some crack

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Speaker 4: Thursday, December twenty second, seven pm on ESPN. This game

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Speaker 4: This game is between Colorado State and Idaho the Vandals. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Tougher competition this year, and according to the SMP, Colorado

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Speaker 1: I do like the Rams.

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Speaker 3: I do like Colorado State, and not a lot of

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Speaker 3: here's the problem Idaho. While that they're Bowl eligible as

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Speaker 4: I don't think it favors Idaho on offense or defense.

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Speaker 3: Dan, and the players in this game will be going

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Speaker 1: You ever been to Bois? I haven't been to Boise.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. So we're both going to Colorado State.

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Speaker 3: On all these games. I don't have it in front

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Speaker 1: But level of confidence here? Are you very? Are you medium?

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Speaker 3: I am upper? I'm pretty confident in Colorado State here?

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Speaker 4: And we talked about our late night drinking endeavors after

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Speaker 4: the Pisman ceremony.

437
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Speaker 1: I had a little bit of.

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Speaker 4: A late night adventure at a Crowns Fried Chicken. They

439
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Speaker 4: have like ninety four fast meals on the scrolling marquee

440
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Speaker 4: behind the registrate. I've never seen anything like it. I'm

441
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Speaker 4: wondering if anyone out there has had a similar experience.

442
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Speaker 4: Not really good chicken, but the menu slash ordering experience

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Speaker 4: is unique.

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Speaker 1: We'll say, what does that mean unique?

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Speaker 4: It means they've got every possible permutation available by a

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Speaker 4: number code behind the register. It's a little confusing.

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Speaker 3: After a few drinks, you know who, I really like Ty,

448
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Speaker 3: and then we'll get to the game. I really like canes, canes, Yeah, yeah,

449
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 3: raising canes the chicken tender chains never had it. Oh really,

450
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Speaker 3: it's a focus on tendo's and good sauces. You can

451
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Speaker 3: get like a hunt tendos in a bag and just

452
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Speaker 3: go crazy, really good.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, speaking of fried chicken, Popeye' Bahama Bull

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Speaker 4: Nasau Bahamas Thomas Robinson Stadium. I don't know much about

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Speaker 4: either of these teams.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest. It's Odiu's first ball ever, Odius.

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Speaker 4: It is, I believe, Eastern Michigan's first Bowl since nineteen

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Speaker 4: eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: They've been trashed for quite some time. I don't know

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Speaker 3: a whole lot about either of these teams. I'm not

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Speaker 3: even gonna pretend we're all friends here. Anything that I

462
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Speaker 3: would say at this point would be disingenuous.

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Speaker 4: All I know is this All Dominion's got a pretty

464
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Speaker 4: good offense. And for Eastern Michigan, they've got a quarterback

465
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Speaker 4: named Brogan Roeback Brogan, and if you abbreviate their name,

466
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Speaker 4: it's EMU.

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Speaker 3: This is true. They improved on defense this year. They're

468
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Speaker 3: a decent passing team. EMU is they're an Ipsilante. I

469
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Speaker 3: went to a very bad strip club in Ipsilante many

470
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Speaker 3: many years ago after on my Yes I tour guide

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Speaker 3: days and it was very strange. I have ODU here

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Speaker 3: forty five forty and that is even. And I look

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Speaker 3: this up. How many teams with a winning record has

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Speaker 3: Old Dominion played this year and they're to reach their

475
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Speaker 3: first ever Bowl game?

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Speaker 1: Four?

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Speaker 3: That'd be two teams whoa two teams with a winning

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Speaker 3: record FBS teams excuse me, with the winning record, So

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Speaker 3: there is that element to listen. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: sell them short. Getting to a bowl is a thing,

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Speaker 3: getting to your first ball. It's a fun thing for

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Speaker 3: this uh, this school and fan base. I have ODU

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Speaker 3: winning forty five forty A bit of a shootout in

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Speaker 3: the Bahamas would be a fun game.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go o to you to win their first

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Speaker 4: bowl game. But I'm not pretending here.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm gonna go five points, five

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Speaker 1: confidence points in this game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Popeye's Bahamas ball, give sweet Swell insulated drink bottle. Swell,

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Speaker 3: it's s apostrophe w.

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Speaker 7: E l L.

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Speaker 3: Huh so well okay, okay, insulated drink bottle, which, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I think that's good. A jaba jaba bluetooth speaker or speakers. Okay,

494
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Speaker 3: drawstring backpack. I'd like a full backpack. That's give me minimum,

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Speaker 3: full backpack, beach towel and a bowl pin. I at

496
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Speaker 3: least tell me if you're giving away like one hundred

497
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Speaker 3: dollars gift card to the to the Popeye's nearest, the

498
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Speaker 3: ODU or EMU campus, give me that'd be cool.

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Speaker 4: Have you tried they mentioned the insulated drinking bottle? Have

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Speaker 4: you tried any of those vacuum sealed cups yet?

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Speaker 1: I don't like they keep the ice cubes in there

502
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Speaker 1: all day.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you could buy I don't think I

504
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Speaker 4: could buy the super expensive brand. You can buy the

505
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Speaker 4: generic brand off off Amazon, not saying their name because

506
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Speaker 4: they haven't sponsored the show. Absolutely, but I'm telling you

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Speaker 4: it's a wonder of science. I don't know how they

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Speaker 4: figured out how to do that. I got one at work.

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Speaker 1: It's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Locky Martin, arm Forces Ball Wow, Fort Worth.

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Speaker 1: Texas m G.

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Speaker 4: Carter Stadium. Navy nine and four versus Louisiana Tech eight

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Speaker 4: and five. This one's a pick them, Yes, pick them.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of reason to like Louisiana

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Speaker 4: Tech in this game. First off, you've got Navy's Will Worth,

516
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Speaker 4: who broke his foot and is out for the year.

517
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Speaker 4: He was their quarterback, their best player. He did an

518
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Speaker 4: impressive job taking the baton from Keenan Reynolds, who was

519
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Speaker 4: all world everything a year ago. They've also got Tonio

520
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Speaker 4: Gully I believe is how you pronounce his name. He

521
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Speaker 4: was a slot back. He's done for the year as well.

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Speaker 4: They're going to feel that loss in the run game.

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Speaker 4: Plus Nav's lost to in a row, both to Temple

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Speaker 4: and Army. On the other side, I think we've got

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Speaker 4: a Louisiana Tech team that I'm gonna end up picking here.

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Speaker 4: They closed out the year by losing the Southern Miss

527
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Speaker 4: and Western Kentucky. They actually beat Western earlier in the

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Speaker 4: year in a shootout. The beat on them, I think

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Speaker 4: is that they're gonna score a ton of points and

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Speaker 4: give up a ton of points. Yeah, it's not anything

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Speaker 4: new for Louisiana tack. That's sort of the team they've

532
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Speaker 4: been for a while now, right.

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Speaker 3: That is correct. Their run defense is actually pretty good.

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Speaker 3: They got run on by wku now who doesn't have

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Speaker 3: their coach, but consistently in that game. Otherwise they've been

536
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Speaker 3: very good against the run at least, and maybe he's

537
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: not going to throw the ball a ton, especially not

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Speaker 3: without will Worth. LA Tech two fourteen hundred plus yard

539
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: receivers from Carlos Henderson and Trent Taylor. That is not

540
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Speaker 3: a usual thing, so good on them and quarterback Ryan Higgins.

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Speaker 3: A big year late season swoon plus the injured quarterback

542
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: kind of feels like this is the game. Navy just

543
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: doesn't want to be there, and that paired with the

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Speaker 3: fact that they have the worst pass defense in the

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Speaker 3: American I like LA Tech here by double digits. I'm

546
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Speaker 3: going thirty seven to twenty four. LA Tech, whoa pretty

547
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Speaker 3: confidently okay like upper middle damn in Mike pool.

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Speaker 4: I'm going La Tech here too. I don't have nearly

549
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Speaker 4: as much confidence in the pick, but I feel like

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Speaker 4: the combination of Navy's best player being out with really

551
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Speaker 4: a bad pass defense against a good passing offense like

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Speaker 4: Louisiana Tech. I am going to take La Tech to

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Speaker 4: win here. I'm going to say seven confidence points. Okay,

554
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 4: what's the gift situation?

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Speaker 1: Looking like?

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Speaker 3: I just looked it up because there's a product I'm

557
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Speaker 3: not familiar with, and I don't know how I feel

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Speaker 3: about it. It is gift sweet obviously. Finn Rod's Festive

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Speaker 3: Weere holiday sweater, Finn Rod's Finn Rod f I n

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Speaker 3: R O find. It's like it's Neon with snowflakes and

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00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: snow snowmen and it's a very I'm not seeing the

562
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Speaker 3: exact sweater, but it is. It is is weird, it

563
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Speaker 3: is colorful, it is loud, and.

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Speaker 1: See that's just trying. That's trying a little too hard.

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Speaker 3: You get a football and a beanie on top of that.

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Speaker 3: I think Lockheed Martin, for all the cash that they

567
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Speaker 3: appear to have, do a little bit better, do a

568
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Speaker 3: little bit better. You're building fighter fighter jets. Take some

569
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Speaker 3: of that cash not as many as they used to,

570
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: but not as many. Yeah, okay, huh. Speaking of being frugal, Dan,

571
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: let's go to the Dollar General Bowl. I love a

572
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 3: good Dollar Store by the way. Yeah me too, Dollar Store,

573
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Speaker 3: Yeah me too.

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Speaker 4: Dollar General Bowl in Mobile, Alabama and lad People Stadium. Friday,

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Speaker 4: December twenty third, eight pm on ESPN. We've got the

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Speaker 4: Troy Trojans at nine and three. They are a three

577
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Speaker 4: and a half point favorite against the Ohio Bobcats, who

578
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Speaker 4: finished the year at eight and five.

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Speaker 1: Dan, We've been pretty high on Troy this year, haven't

580
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Speaker 1: we love Neil Brown and the Trojans? Yeah? How you

581
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Speaker 1: feel about this game?

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Speaker 3: I think I actually may like Ohio a little bit

583
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Speaker 3: more than Troy after the app State win. They won

584
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Speaker 3: that game twenty eight, twenty four. Late, they had a

585
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Speaker 3: letdown situation which they just sort of got trounced by

586
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Speaker 3: Arkansas State. But they're the thing about the Trojans is

587
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: they're pretty good at everything. They're not great at any

588
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: one thing, but they're good at being not bad, if

589
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: that may sense. Ohio improved a ton on defense this year.

590
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Speaker 3: Their run defense was actually like lockdown, lights out, really

591
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: really good. Pass defense was all right. If you remember,

592
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Speaker 3: Ohio made it to the MAC Championship game and stayed

593
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Speaker 3: with Western Michigan, which is not an easy thing to

594
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Speaker 3: do in twenty sixteen. And the big thing is Ohio

595
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: is excellent in the red zone and Troy not so

596
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Speaker 3: good in the red zone. So offense was a struggle

597
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Speaker 3: for Ohio. But if you remember about Ohio as well,

598
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Speaker 3: they were net connected with Tennessee early on in the

599
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: season in Knoxville. So they play well they come to play.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Ohio here outright. I think they

601
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Speaker 3: upset the Trojans twenty four to twenty. We've been hanging

602
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: around too much. Big statement in lad peeples tie.

603
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Speaker 4: We've been hanging around too much. Who didn't almost beat Tennessee,

604
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 4: by the way, that's true, fair. I don't know how

605
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Speaker 4: much of a badge of honor that is. But still

606
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Speaker 4: they beat Toledo, which is a good win. They hung

607
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 4: tough with Western Kentucky. I think in terms of on

608
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 4: field product, both teams have played like garbage over the.

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Speaker 1: Last month of the year. Look at what both of

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Speaker 1: them have done.

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Speaker 4: Neither one has been impressive throughout the course of November.

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Speaker 4: For Troy, though, it's been a fairly drastic drop off,

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Speaker 4: and I think that's what scares me most.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 4: I am gonna side with you. I am taking the

616
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Speaker 4: Bobcats to win this one outright, but I am not

617
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 4: uber confident in it. I'm gonna say six confidence points here. Okay,

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00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 4: give me the Bobcats.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm I'm right around there myself.

620
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Speaker 4: So the question is, though, is this gift suite from

621
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: Dollar General better than the gift suite from the people

622
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: that make fighter jets and the like?

623
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Speaker 1: Without questions? Y?

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00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: Really, we're talking about a leather Duffel bag. Okay, great,

625
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: you're going away for a weekend. You going to overnight trip,

626
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: wonderful leather Duffel bag, Pure Boom wireless headphones. Have I

627
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: heard of pure Boom? I have not, but wireless headphones?

628
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: Sure?

629
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good enough gift. A Wilson

630
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: Souvenir game Ball, RTIC soft pack forty cooler.

631
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: See that's the thing. That's what I was telling you about.

632
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: Oh that is the Arctic Yeah, the vacuum see Arctic. Oh,

633
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Speaker 1: I get it.

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00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: Art okay, artic okay, and a Timely Watch company watch.

635
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: See that's a pretty good stock up there.

636
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 3: I'm totally good. I would rather go to the Dollar

637
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: General Bowl?

638
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: Where is this? One? More time? Dollar General Bowl was

639
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: in Mobile, Alabama? Nice town.

640
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, I'd rather go to four Worth than Mobile,

641
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: but I'd rather have this gift bag.

642
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely Dollar General doing it up. Good for them?

643
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: Yes, all right?

644
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: Christmas Eve eight pm on ESPN, We've got Hawaii at

645
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Speaker 4: home in the Hawaii Bowl in Hawaii in a Loja

646
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 4: stadium against Middle Tennessee State. So Hawaii went six and seven.

647
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 4: Middle Tennessee went eight and four.

648
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: I like Hawaii.

649
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 4: I root for Hawaii. They beat Air Force this year,

650
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: which was a nice win. They also played a surprisingly

651
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 4: brutal schedule. True, this concludes all the niceties I have

652
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: to say about Hawaii football this year.

653
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Speaker 1: Oh man, really that's it? Okay?

654
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: Well, ty, I know the people are clamoring for some analytics,

655
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: and let me tell you something. Hawaii top twenty and

656
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: offensive and defensive touchdowns per playment.

657
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: Throw that out the window.

658
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, not touchdowns per play. It's simple. You want

659
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: a touchdown. You want to be efficient scoring touchdowns and

660
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: preventing them. That's that's fine. The Hawaii offense is nothing special.

661
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: The defense was decent enough against the pass, which is

662
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 3: good news. Brent Stockstill, who broke his collarbone, I think

663
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: earlier on in November, maybe back for Middle Tennessee, h

664
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: not Middle Tennessee State tie. Middle Tennessee. Excuse me, Middle Tennessee.

665
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: Hawaii was good enough in the red zone. Middle Tennessee.

666
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: It's a really good offense if you remember the name

667
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: my Tavius Mathers, who transfer from Mole miss had a

668
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: very nice season for Middle Tennessee. I'm gonna go with

669
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: mt I'm going with Middle Tennessee thirty to twenty seven

670
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: and a nail bier far far away from I think

671
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: it's Murphy's bro in Hawaii.

672
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: I think they take it.

673
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 4: What concerns me a little bit is that Middle Tennessee

674
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: played their best game of the year back in September. Yeah,

675
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 4: and ever since then it's sort of been a story

676
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 4: of diminishing returns. They fought Western Kentucky, the only lost

677
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 4: by one. They beat Missouri, which is a win over

678
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 4: an SEC team. Great, fine, but you mentioned they lost.

679
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 4: Brent Stockstill will have to wait and see on his front,

680
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: and it's been a bit of a struggle bus on

681
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 4: offense all throughout November. They did close out the year

682
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 4: by hanging seventy seven on FAU, which I think is

683
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 4: a nice sign if we're examining trends here moving into

684
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 4: Bowl season. I still like Middle Tennessee. I'm not as

685
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 4: high on them as I expected to be when I

686
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: just kind of looked at this matchup from Afar, when

687
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 4: I actually dug in, I wasn't as gung ho on

688
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 4: Middle Tennessee. But if it were a situation where I

689
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 4: felt like they were packing it in, maybe I'd be

690
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: swayed to go Hawaii.

691
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: I just don't.

692
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 4: I don't think that's the case here. I think this

693
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 4: is a story of a team learning to play with

694
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 4: a freshman quarterback, and they have been getting better through

695
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 4: that process. So I'm reasonably confident here. Not as confident

696
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: as I expected to be, but still confident enough that

697
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna know the big guns.

698
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: Let's go thirty four points? Wow?

699
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: Are they still the Blue Raiders? I believe, so give

700
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: me thirty four in the Blue Raiders Dog.

701
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

702
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: I wonder if Hawaii players are going to be tired

703
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: from having no benches in the fourth quarter the third

704
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: quarter of that game at this point and it should

705
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: also be noted, here's something that's great about this game,

706
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: the whatever it's called, the Hawaii Bowl.

707
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: I've gone to warmer.

708
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: Places, beachside places, and I've forgotten bathing suits because I

709
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 3: didn't think I was going to go to the beach.

710
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: Then we ended up at the beach. Guess what, the

711
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: Hawaii Ball They've got you covered. So we're talking about

712
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 3: an electronics gift, Sweet Oakley backpack, Wholebrook sunglasses, A Tory

713
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 3: Richard a Loha shirt. I just looked it up. Tie

714
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 3: Tory Richard, Tory Richard a Loha shirt. The shirt is

715
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: just a dad's shirt as hell, but it's as far

716
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: as those go, it's pretty sharp. I gotta tell you,

717
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: it's pretty sharp. A beach towel, pro athletic swim trunks

718
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: and team performance gare So they've got you set for

719
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 3: your for your time off in Hawaii. Hmm, okay, Sunglasses,

720
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: beach towel, Wyan shirt. See, at least it's like a

721
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: Thematic utility gift bag. The Lockheed Martin sweater to me,

722
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: is perplexing. Come on now, maybe they're maybe they're cutting CTHS.

723
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, seems weak to me. All right,

724
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: all right, uh Saint Petersburg Bowl. Oh okay. Was this

725
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: the game that people were urging us to try and sponsor.

726
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's too late.

727
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 6: Tie.

728
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: We can call it the Nioki.

729
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: Bowl, the Yuckey Ball, or the Bowl of niok There

730
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 4: you go, Saint Petersburg Bowl in Saint Petersburg, Florida. This

731
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: one's on Monday, December twenty six. It's at eleven am

732
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 4: bright and early day after Christmas.

733
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, on esp and Mississippi State.

734
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 4: They are five and seven on the year, but they're

735
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 4: going bowling and they're a twelve and a half point favorite.

736
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: Against Miami, Ohio.

737
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: They finished six and six, Dan, tell the people the

738
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 4: fun stat about Miami, Ohio.

739
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: Miami of Ohio is also the name of a city

740
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: in Florida, Miami of Ohio, Florida. No Miami started the

741
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: season oh and six. I'm a dumb person, Ty, Miami

742
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: of Ohio started oh and six, and they finished six

743
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: to zero to get ball eligible at six and six. Again, Ty,

744
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying. Give me some d analytics.

745
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: I got them for you.

746
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: Ty.

747
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 3: Thank you to another top twenty both offense and defense

748
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: in terms of improvement touchdowns for And this is where

749
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: I turn the floor over to you. Tell me about

750
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: your favorite Gus Raglan interception this year.

751
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: Ty, that's because there were none, Dan, there were zero.

752
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: There were zero Miami of Ohio interceptions. But they cannot

753
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: run the ball.

754
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: So they can't run the ball. But your favorite stat

755
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 4: about them starting zero to six and finishing six and zero.

756
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 4: A big part of that turnaround story is because of

757
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: that quarterback change to Gus Raglan. He's a sophomore. He

758
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 4: played the last six games, completed sixty two percent of

759
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 4: his passes through fifteen touchdowns to zero interceptions.

760
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: Hell of a job by him, Hell of a job

761
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: by Chuck.

762
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 4: Martin, kind of keeping this thing together and getting Miami

763
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: Ohio even to a bowl game.

764
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: I believe they are motivated.

765
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 4: I don't see how you could see it differently after

766
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: they won their last six games.

767
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: Clearly though, this is going.

768
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: To be a challenge for them going up against a

769
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 4: guy like Nick Fitzgerald. Yes, I think he takes over

770
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: this game. Ultimately, think they win. If I'm betting the

771
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: points spread here, twelve and a half feels like a lot.

772
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: I could see Miami Ohio fighting the Bulldogs here for

773
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: a while, But the best player on the field is

774
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: going to be Nick Fitzgerald. And especially with a team

775
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: like Miami Ohio, which is so one dimensional still against

776
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 4: an SEC team, I don't think that bodes well. So

777
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna unload again and I'm going to say thirty

778
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: one points. I don't know why I'm doing that, but

779
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 4: thirty one points here Mississippi State, lock it up.

780
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: Wow, you're not about that for education, Fred Ross, You're

781
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: not about a J.

782
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: Jefferson. J Jefferson might be the best player on the field.

783
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: To me, I do like a good freeducation, But I

784
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: still think miss Gerald is the is the X factor here, Ty.

785
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 3: This podcast is about many things, and not the least

786
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: of which is inspiration. And did Mississippi Mississippi State let

787
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: not getting to six wins stop them from getting to

788
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: a bowl game?

789
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: No it didn't.

790
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: I ask you that type did Mississippi State. And this

791
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: is for the kids out there, all the kids out

792
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 3: there who think that you can't post the worst SEC

793
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: pass defense and still.

794
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: Get to a bowl game. Nah, absolutely not.

795
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: Do not think like that, because here is Mississippi State

796
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: completely unable to stop anyone from passing on them. After

797
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: many DZ takes off from Miami and they hire Peter Sermon.

798
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: They still get to a bowl game. They still get

799
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: to Saint Pete.

800
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Misssippi State here by seventeen eighteen points.

801
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: I have at thirty eight twenty.

802
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 4: Thirty eight twenty Okay, Yeah, what's the gift situation in

803
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: Saint Petersburg?

804
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: So A J.

805
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,959
Speaker 3: Jefferson and the fre Education will be receiving a trip

806
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: to a gift suite. Oakley turbine sunglasses, A trip to

807
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: a gift A trip to a gift suite. That's what

808
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: it says, gift suite. Okay, Oakley turbine sunglasses and an

809
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: Enduro twenty backpack in Duro twenty sounds like budget condoms.

810
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: It sounds like many of them. I'm looking up Oakley

811
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: turbine sunglasses right now. It kind of sounds like, if

812
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: you need to name it the Oakley turbine, they're probably

813
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: not going to be super cool. But let's see, all right,

814
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 3: they must somewhere in the marketing boast that they're aerodynamic.

815
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 3: They are Guy Fieri as hell tie Oh boy. The

816
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: turbines like the like the old blade style no, not

817
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: quite like that, but like there's sunglasses that you would

818
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 3: wear on the back of your head, you know, hanging

819
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: your ears. That's what it looks like. There's sunglasses that

820
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: Stephen from Laguna Beach would wear.

821
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: Okay, right, I got you.

822
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: Did you watch Laguna Beach the Real Orange County?

823
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: I did a little bit here and there. Yeah. Oh

824
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: it was such a good show. Tie that's in your

825
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: old stomping ground, isn't it.

826
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: I mean it's about an hour and a half for

827
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 3: my parents, but it's still deeter with the fashion shows. Tye,

828
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 3: are you kidding me? Yeah, you're not reading play a

829
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: game based on Laguna Beach the real Orange County called

830
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 3: dounzo or not done.

831
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, so it is important we will do that again. Yes,

832
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: all right?

833
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: Quick Lane Bull, oh god, oh god, Quickleain Bowl Detroit

834
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 4: day after Christmas, talk about a turn in the stocking

835
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 4: Ford Field. The day after Christmas two thirty on ESPN,

836
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 4: Maryland six and six a two point favorite, somehow, some

837
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 4: way over Boston College six and six. Dan. This one

838
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: I think is neck and neck with Florida Iowa for

839
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: worst bowl game of the year.

840
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: It really shocks that not only are both Maryland and

841
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: Boston College Bowl eligible, but they play each other like

842
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: we're quarantining this technicality. Do you have nice things to say?

843
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: I mean, this.

844
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 4: Game is really evenly meshed, and it's not this it's

845
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: not a badge of honor. But seriously, they've got identical

846
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 4: records in the S and P plus Maryland I believe

847
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: is eighty seventh and BC is eighty eighth. The point

848
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 4: spread as this one damn near a pick'm these teams

849
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 4: deserve each other.

850
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: Okay, it's they're the worst of bowl games. They deserve

851
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 3: each other. It's a very equally matched contest. I'm gonna

852
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: take Boston College. I don't feel great about it. It's

853
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: like a one confidence point kind of thing. I just

854
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: believe the best entity in this game is going to

855
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 3: be their defense, and I'm willing to wager one single

856
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: solitary point on it. So do you foresee a bunch

857
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: of guys acting like dudes?

858
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: I believe?

859
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna go with Maryland. They didn't take

860
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: really huge steps forward or back. It was kind of

861
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: an atrocious season. They ran the ball all right at times,

862
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 3: especially early on, but that was about it. Boston College

863
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: got way worse defensively.

864
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: Without Don Brown, they got way orse.

865
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 3: They got a little bit better on offense just by

866
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 3: not having everybody go down with charred bones. I'm gonna

867
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 3: go Maryland twenty one to seventeen.

868
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: Twenty one seven. That's a lot of points for this game.

869
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: A lot of points for this game. And listen, Detroit

870
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: is not the sexiest destination to go in the middle

871
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 3: of winter, at the beginning of winter. But I had

872
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: a pretty good time in Detroit a few months ago.

873
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 3: And you know what, at the very least, they're gonna

874
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: be walking away with a bunch of stuff because they

875
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: feel bad that they're sending people to Detroit. Two hundred

876
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 3: dollars Best Buy gift card, JBL headphones, life size fat

877
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 3: head decil for each decal for each participant of his

878
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: own likeness, sweet, a hoodie, a winter hat, Rock Them Apparel, socks,

879
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: a backpack, and a vintage football. You know what, Ty,

880
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: it might sound stupid, I love that they're getting socks

881
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: because you're only as comfortable as your feet, especially in

882
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: the cold. They are thoughtful good for Quicklane is Quicklane

883
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: like a lube company? What is Quicklane?

884
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 4: I believe Quicklane is is like an install loube Yeah, yeah, okay,

885
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 4: insta loup hotline. The Camping World Independence Bowl dan mm hmm, Shreveport,

886
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 4: Louisiana in Independent Stadium. It's a clash between NC State

887
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: at six and six and a four point favorite over

888
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 4: Vandy at six and six ten. NC State coming off

889
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 4: a big win over in state North Carolina to close

890
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 4: out their season. Vandy coming off two giant wins over

891
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 4: Ole Miss and Tennessee to close out their season. Both

892
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 4: these teams are plucky as hell. They're plucky as hell. Combined,

893
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 4: they have twelve losses. Eight of those losses were one

894
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: score games.

895
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: So the d Analytics pluckability factor for North Carolina State

896
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: is four point one ty fourth. Okay, no, there is

897
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: not a pluckability index.

898
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: No, you're right.

899
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: You know, North Carolina State a field goal away, as

900
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll back fans know from beating Clemson. You

901
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 3: said four point favorite in this game.

902
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

903
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: NC State's offense got worse, and that's not a great

904
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: sign against the Vanderbilt defense that is, for the most part, excellence.

905
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 3: I don't say that likely, I don't say that lightly.

906
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

907
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 3: Vandy's offense got better over the course of the season

908
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: that did struggle initially, I have Vandy not only covering

909
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: this spread, tie outright and lock it up?

910
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: Whoa absolutely look of the week? Okay, all right? Ok

911
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: twenty three to thirteen doors. How about that.

912
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 4: NC State dan went two and five in their last

913
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: seven games after beating Notre Dame. The nd stank shouldn't

914
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 4: be overlooked if we're considering these intangibles here. Yeah, in

915
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 4: Bowl season and Vandy was fired up, fired up with

916
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 4: how they closed out their season against Tennessee. Vandy to

917
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: me is a cool story, a cool story with how

918
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 4: I feel they turned the corner late in the year.

919
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 4: People are excited about Derek Mason where he could be

920
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: taking this program now moving forward. I'm not quite as

921
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 4: tigh on Vandy as you are, but I do like

922
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 4: them outright, and I do like them to the tune

923
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 4: of fifteen confidence points dan.

924
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: Ooh okay, that's significant.

925
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: And this is also a reminder don't say anything bad

926
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: about Shreveport, Louisiana or Shreveport's owned. Tim Brando will hunt

927
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: you down. He will hunt you down, and I imagine

928
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: he has blow darts. I do imagine that.

929
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: Ah, what are the.

930
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: Gifts nothing too special? Come on Shreveport Gift Suite, timely

931
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: Watch company Watch which for my money, tie is no MVMT.

932
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: A new era skull cap and football a football or

933
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 3: just the gift of football. It just has singular football.

934
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: Do you ever wear a skull cap?

935
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: Is that it's like a tighter version of a beanie? Yeah, yeah,

936
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 3: it's like real. I don't like that as much. I've

937
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 3: got a weirdly shaped head.

938
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: Like a second skin atop your head. You don't like that?

939
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 8: Now?

940
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 3: I got a weirdly shaped head tie I did wear

941
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: for the first time this season. This winter, I wore

942
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 3: a beanie two brunch on Sunday. I got a wonderful

943
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: Mexican brunch and wore that because it was cold as

944
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 3: hell and I was uncomfortable.

945
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm press.

946
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: I'm a fan of compression gear pretty much across the board,

947
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 4: except the skull cap.

948
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: Okay, just sort of a weird feeling when you take

949
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: it off.

950
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 6: I like that.

951
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: Fair.

952
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 4: Let's talk a little bit about Harry's so I have

953
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 4: full disclosure here. Did you happen to notice when you

954
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 4: saw me on Friday evening that my lip was torn

955
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 4: to shreds.

956
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: I mean you looked particularly smooth tie.

957
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: My lip was torn to shreds. I tried shaving. Did

958
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: that happened?

959
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 4: I tried shaving with an electric razor. I veered away

960
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: from Harry's. And it's just somehow got like my lip

961
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 4: caught in it and it tore it the like smithereens.

962
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: What are you doing with your life? I don't know.

963
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm a big I didn't notice that tie. I

964
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 3: did not, So I feel okay about yourself.

965
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 4: Here is your opportunity if you're looking for the right

966
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: fit for a guy who you don't know what to

967
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 4: buy for the holiday season, by the guy on your

968
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: holiday shopping list Harry's. It's useful again practical, You get close,

969
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 4: comfortable shaves, don't got to worry about that beer to bees,

970
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 4: don't gotta worry about chopping off your lip.

971
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 3: I think smooth is generally a very positive thing for

972
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: a body as rightly, Yeah, nice and clean, smooth. But

973
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: I will tell you this, and I don't know if

974
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: I've brought this up on the show before. Are you

975
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: are you near your near your computer?

976
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm right in front of it. Do you have

977
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: Google dot com? Reataly available.

978
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 8: Yeah.

979
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you ever googled because we're talking about, you know,

980
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 3: staying smooth. Yeah, have you ever googled hairless bear? No, ty,

981
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 3: go on Google image right now and google hairless bear

982
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: like b E A R like the animal.

983
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: Oh bear, it's awful.

984
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: It's so weird.

985
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so weird. Everybody at home, poor pairs. That's cool.

986
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 3: It is some sort of issue. It's a disease of

987
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: some kind. So I hope this does not happen to

988
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: your personal bear. But whoa is it weird?

989
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: Personal bear? Right? Okay?

990
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 4: Harry's Right Now has a limited addition set and a

991
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 4: special offer for harver ballers. If you haven't heard of

992
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: Harry's before. It was started by two best friends, Jeff

993
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 4: and Andy. They were fed up with being overcharged for razors,

994
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 4: so you started their own company. They wanted to give

995
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 4: people what they deserve, a great shave at a fair price.

996
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 4: Dan Harris has a ready to gift shave set at

997
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,479
Speaker 4: all different price points. It starts to just fifteen bucks.

998
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 4: They all come with a razor handle of your choosing

999
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 4: shaving cream and replacement blades, as well as a travel cover.

1000
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 4: The travel cover, by the way, is worth its weight

1001
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 4: in gold.

1002
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Speaker 1: Do it right now.

1003
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,640
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Speaker 4: to give you five bucks off your order when you

1005
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1006
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Speaker 4: at checkout ground shipping for the holidays and on December sixteenth,

1007
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 4: two days from now. Act now go to Harry's dot

1008
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 4: com get a holiday shave set. Don't forget to enter

1009
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Speaker 4: the code solid for five bucks off Harrys dot com.

1010
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 4: Your code is Solid Dan Simple. All right, We've got

1011
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 4: one more game and then a special treat here.

1012
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: Let's talk about another chicken bowl. More fried chicken. Yeah,

1013
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: Zaxby's here. Ever been a zach I've never had Zaxby's.

1014
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: I know what it is.

1015
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 3: And they have all sorts of like you can get

1016
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: a zalad instead of a salad. They have all sorts

1017
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: of punny names. But never had it.

1018
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: Have heard It's totally fine. Zaxby's.

1019
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 4: Heart of Dallas Bowl, Dallas, Texas Cotton Bowl Stadium, Tuesday,

1020
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 4: December twenty seventh, at high noon on ESPN, it is

1021
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 4: the Army Black Knights against the North Texas Mean Green

1022
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 4: Army seven and five North Texas five and seven. Army

1023
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: a nine point favorite.

1024
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 8: Dan.

1025
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 4: It's going to be their second Bowl appearance since nineteen

1026
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 4: ninety six. Dan, it's up against a team that I

1027
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 4: feel is ill equipped to handle the Army rushing attack.

1028
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 4: So I'm heavy Army. I'm heavy to the tune of

1029
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 4: thirty seven confidence points, Dan, lock them up? Wow, yeah

1030
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 4: really yeah, yeah?

1031
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 3: I think I think Army wins this game. North Texas

1032
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 3: a good story. First year coach comes over from North Carolina.

1033
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 3: North Carolina's own offense, losing Seth Latrelle took a bit

1034
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 3: of a step back at times. They've improved, but they're

1035
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: still sort of underwhelming everywhere. It's going to take a

1036
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: little bit to get better. Army can certainly run. We

1037
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: just saw what they could do against Navy, and they

1038
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: stopped the pass relatively well enough. So I think I

1039
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 3: like Army as well by a couple touchdowns. I'm gonna

1040
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 3: say twenty eight to fourteen something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.

1041
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: It says gift suite a football, and I don't understand

1042
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: why they're not giving away tends, but whatever, this is

1043
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 3: where I think, and this is an unpaid advertisement that's

1044
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 3: about to happen. They're giving away an Amazon Echo dot.

1045
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: Oh you own one of these and you like it?

1046
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: Correct?

1047
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if I should spill the beans on

1048
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: this or not. Okay, just tell me what you think

1049
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 3: of the products first. The product is awesome.

1050
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: Okay.

1051
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 4: We also may or may not have a solid verbal

1052
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 4: college football news briefing that will be available.

1053
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: Nice. Let me ask you this. Will you test it?

1054
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 3: It's not in the room in which you are podcasting, right, no, no, no, no,

1055
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 3: no no, will you say? And let's just test it

1056
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 3: and see if it works at the volume at which

1057
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 3: you're speaking right now? Hey, Alexa, come on, feel it,

1058
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: feel it. I will test that. Okay, test it right now?

1059
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: Here we go. Let's just see what happens. Hey, Alexa,

1060
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: come on, feel it? Feel it? You feel it? Baby,

1061
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: you feel Oh you you're too much. It's the greatest

1062
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: song ever written.

1063
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 4: All right, so we mentioned Army. We've got one final

1064
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 4: nugget for all y'all. As we mentioned on the last

1065
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: two shows, our good friend Taylor from Talking Terps from Zardcast,

1066
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 4: particularly from the saliverbal He's been helping us for years now.

1067
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 4: We sent him in our place down to the Army

1068
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 4: Navy game. He went around, got some interviews. He did

1069
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 4: an admirable job on the snapchat and now, at long last,

1070
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 4: here's a little audio segment he clipped together to play

1071
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: aloud on the verbal here's our boy, Taylor down our army.

1072
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 2: Can you describe what you're wearing? I got my old

1073
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: grad T shirt on Why? Why just the old grad

1074
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: T shirt? Today we're gonna beat Navy.

1075
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Why.

1076
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: How are you feeling right now? Are you cold? And

1077
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: are you Are you resolved against the winter? I'm resolved.

1078
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 9: I'm spending quite a bit of time up at Fort

1079
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 9: drum Well north of here. And this is our This

1080
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 9: is our general kind of spring highs usually like early June,

1081
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 9: late May. So this is summer right now.

1082
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: So they're gonna break the streak this year. This is

1083
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: the year they do it. Yes, this is the year.

1084
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: Everything else has happened this year. Why not, Hayberballers.

1085
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 10: This is Chief reverb Engineer Taylor Schwink coming at you

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Speaker 10: from Charms City, USA, Baltimore, Maryland for the twenty sixteen

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Speaker 10: edition of Army Navy. I'm on the scene at USA's

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Speaker 10: media row here in the Baltimore Convention Center, chatting with

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Speaker 10: a couple national media types. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 10: the game, college football in general, the playoffs, and what

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Speaker 10: everyone's watching on TV. Let's go, joined by the Desen

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Speaker 10: Howard of College Game Day fame here on the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing? Sorry, I'm doing fantastic. How about

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Speaker 2: to so doing well?

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Speaker 1: Doing well?

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Speaker 10: Thanks for joining me? Thanks for having me join us?

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Speaker 10: Now Klay Travis out kick the coverage?

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Speaker 2: How are you, sir? Thanks for joining me. I'm excellent.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing well? Doing well?

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Speaker 10: Okay, we're here with the great John Feinstein, author, columnists,

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Speaker 10: multi media mogul. These days, you're you're a radio guy,

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Speaker 10: you're a TV guy.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Good to be here, Taylor.

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Speaker 11: Thanks Nate Boyer, Army Green Ray Texas Longhorn five minutes

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Speaker 11: with the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: So you've been How many Army Navy games have been?

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Speaker 1: This will be my twenty fourth.

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Speaker 2: I first went.

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Speaker 8: In nineteen ninety and that was where I got the

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Speaker 8: idea being at the game for the first time to

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Speaker 8: do a civil war. And I've been to every game since.

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Speaker 8: The kids who play in this game, in nine hundred

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Speaker 8: and ninety nine cases out of a thousand will not

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Speaker 8: play in the NFL. The only uniform they're were when

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Speaker 8: they graduate, it'll be Army, Navy or Marines. They have volunteered,

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Speaker 8: as have all eight thousand cadets in Midshipman who will

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Speaker 8: be in at stadium tomorrow to die for their country

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Speaker 8: if they have to. They don't want to, but they

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Speaker 8: understand that if we go to war, and we've been

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Speaker 8: at war since I wrote a civil war on a

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Speaker 8: number of occasions, they will be put very likely in

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Speaker 8: harm's way. I've had many the kids I wrote about

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Speaker 8: have been to Iraq, have been to Afghanistan. One of them,

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Speaker 8: Kevin Norman, who was a punter at Army, died overseas.

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Speaker 1: So it's different than any other game.

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Speaker 10: Do you have like a preference, maybe a bias Army Navy?

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Speaker 10: Do you go one way or the other?

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm really torn between the two, to be honest,

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Speaker 6: because my football mentor was actually the head coach at

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Speaker 6: Army in the mid nineteen seventy He's a man named

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Speaker 6: Homer Smith. He was the head coach there from nineteen

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Speaker 6: seventy four to nineteen seventy eight, and I ended up

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Speaker 6: being a graduate assistant at Alabama under coach Smith followed

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Speaker 6: him to UCLA, and ninety percent of what I know

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Speaker 6: about the game I learned from Homer Smith. Most people

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Speaker 6: think it would come from Bill Belichick or Nick Saban,

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Speaker 6: because I worked with those two gentlemen at the Browns

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Speaker 6: right after my time with Coach, But really, Homer Smith

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Speaker 6: was my number one mentor.

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Speaker 12: We were in the car on Thanksgiving and we were

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Speaker 12: driving to my parents' house or my sister's house, and

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Speaker 12: I was talking to the two oldest boys. I mean,

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Speaker 12: the two year old was in there too, but he

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Speaker 12: can ignore me without any consequence. Right now, I was

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Speaker 12: trying to explain to them how much we had to

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Speaker 12: be thankful for, and about halfway through, my six year

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Speaker 12: old just said, Dad, my iPad's not working, and so, uh,

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Speaker 12: you know, obviously you try to make I thought I

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Speaker 12: was doing an incredible job. I thought i'd really give

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Speaker 12: him a speech that was gonna, you know, resonate with them,

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Speaker 12: reverberate with them for for years to come. And instead

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Speaker 12: they're just worried that their iPads aren't working.

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Speaker 10: So, now that the season's winding down, you got any

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Speaker 10: you got any vacations lined up?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm interested in I'm gonna go to uh

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Speaker 2: to Columbia. I'm gonna go, uh may go to Columbia.

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Speaker 8: By maybe anything lined up yet, but those are those

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Speaker 8: are the places.

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Speaker 2: That ow on my radar so far.

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Speaker 10: Okay, okay, international, I like it, sir, Yes, sir. What

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Speaker 10: does Gary Danielson do once the season is done? Are

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Speaker 10: you catching up on TV shows? Do you have a

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Speaker 10: patients lined up?

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Speaker 1: A little bit of everything? Number one?

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Speaker 2: But that's true.

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Speaker 13: Yes, I don't get to watch much TV during football season,

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Speaker 13: so a little bit of that. It's nice to have

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Speaker 13: your DVR ready for you know, uh, a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit of Ray Donovan, a little bit of suits,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a.

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Speaker 13: Game of Thrones, you know, my my my favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: So yes, that's part of it.

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Speaker 13: Get back in shape a little bit, start doing my

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Speaker 13: exercise a little bit more diligently, and uh play a

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Speaker 13: little golf and enjoying my family time.

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Speaker 10: Or walking around the parking lots between Canden Yards and

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Speaker 10: M and T Bank Stadium. We're gonna find some tailgaters

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Speaker 10: to talk to, uh see what they're eating, Thoughts on

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Speaker 10: the game, thoughts on life. And it's really really cold

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Speaker 10: out here, so let's see what they got to say,

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Speaker 10: can you tell everyone what you're doing right now?

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Speaker 2: Oysters?

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Speaker 10: Shocking oysters? And what's your what's the proper technique to

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00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 10: shuck oysters? For those who don't know?

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Speaker 2: Not cut yourself? And is this year? Is this your

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Speaker 2: heating tower over here too? It is? That's pretty serious.

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Speaker 2: I'd love an oyster.

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Speaker 12: All right?

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Speaker 2: Go you got the hot sauce, cocktail sauce lemons.

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Speaker 10: I'm just gonna I'm gonna go for one raw, all right?

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Speaker 10: Can you describe what you're wearing for me? It's a

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Speaker 10: ship head, a shiphead, a shiphead, a foam shiphead, shiphead?

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Speaker 2: What? What kind of ship is on your head?

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Speaker 1: Some kind of a destroyer?

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Speaker 10: I notice you guys have a Chick fil A nugget platter.

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Speaker 10: Is the Chick fil A nugget platter the number one

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Speaker 10: seed for tailgating food?

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Speaker 2: Had to think about it, I would like to say

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 5: I think that most people don't think about bringing Chick

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Speaker 5: fil A nuggets to the tailgate, So we're ahead of

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Speaker 5: the game.

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Speaker 2: Would you mind telling us what we're standing in front

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Speaker 2: of right now?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 2: This is the Bradley Fighting Vehicle.

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Speaker 14: Till in Layman's turns we've got a twenty five millimeter

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Speaker 14: Bushmaster cannon on the front. We bring himctrymen into the

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Speaker 14: fight and then we support him with that twenty five

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Speaker 14: millimeter cannon.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, awesome, only at Army Navy. This is my pal

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Speaker 2: Richie over here. How you doing, man, I'm doing pretty

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Speaker 2: good to you. How are you doing great? Doing great?

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Speaker 2: Army Navy?

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Speaker 10: Big day in the Sherman family life. What's going on here?

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Speaker 10: What do we have happening around us?

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Speaker 2: So we have the tailgates of all tailgates.

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Speaker 7: I think we've got three cars set up, about thirty

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Speaker 7: pounds of burgers and dogs and brats, two coolers full

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Speaker 7: of beer, and it's great. We've got obviously it's some

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Speaker 7: Navy fans, but we do. We have a small group

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Speaker 7: of Army fans here and they're always always welcome here.

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Speaker 7: That's the great thing about this game, as the respect

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Speaker 7: between the two teams before last year?

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Speaker 2: How long was your Army Navy game streak? Thirty one

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Speaker 2: straight games. Today's my forty fifth game. Right on.

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Speaker 10: So I was told that you missed last year. Can

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Speaker 10: you tell us why you were unable to attend last year?

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Speaker 15: Well, unfortunately, I was putting up Christmas lights and was

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Speaker 15: attacked by a giant beaver and fell off the ladder

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Speaker 15: and broke four ribs. And despite the medications I was

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Speaker 15: provided and the Jimmy Hendricks music that I was listening to,

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Speaker 15: I could not attend the game and the streak was broken.

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Speaker 10: Sadly, Army just won. Can you put your feelings into

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Speaker 10: words at this moment?

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Speaker 14: So it's phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: I've been in to the Army thirteen years.

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Speaker 13: I've never seen a w my first Army Navy game,

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Speaker 13: and they get to win.

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Speaker 9: I gotta say, I think I'm the good luck charm

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Speaker 9: And I just.

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Speaker 10: Wish Brandon was here to celebrate with us, because I

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01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 10: know right now he's celebrated out there.

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Speaker 2: So it's all for b Jack.

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Speaker 6: I know they played this game just for him, and

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Speaker 6: it just feels sober warding to know that we finally

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Speaker 6: beat the hell out of that.

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Speaker 1: You guys made it on the field, Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 11: We were eyeing the goalpost, but those are pretty heavily guarded,

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Speaker 11: so we stayed off.

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Speaker 2: But aw York.

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01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: No, no, we're staying down here for the night celebrate.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see.

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Speaker 10: So we watched the game in the press box. How

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Speaker 10: many outcrip did in the press box?

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Speaker 1: Stop?

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Speaker 2: How many claps did you get in the press box?

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Speaker 2: So you think three?

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Speaker 11: I clapped three times total in two different instances. I clapped.

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Speaker 11: I had a one clap early on and then stopped

1262
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 11: myself and we had a big we had a big

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Speaker 11: third down conversion or a fourth down conversion. I had

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Speaker 11: a double clap after that one, and but that was it.

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Speaker 1: Three claps.

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Speaker 11: I went down on the field with five minutes left

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Speaker 11: in the game after we scored the go ahead touchdown.

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Speaker 11: I clapped a lot there. Yeah my uh, my cheeks

1269
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 11: still hurt from smiling. It was a freaking awesome.

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Speaker 1: Wow. There you go. I like it.

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Speaker 3: I felt like I was there, Ty, and I'm glad

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01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 3: I wasn't because it seemed cold.

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Speaker 4: The verbal represented well by our good friend Taylor did

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Speaker 4: a great job.

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Speaker 1: I got to get to that game someday. Send him

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Speaker 1: your tweets of love at ct schwink do it all right?

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Speaker 4: Thank you Dan for hopping on with me helping give

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Speaker 4: some insight into this next wave of bowl games.

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Speaker 3: Ty, I do have actual college football breaking news. If

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01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 3: you want to hear it, oh please, It actually deserves

1281
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 3: the sound.

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Speaker 4: Okay, late breaking news.

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01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: Notre Dames losing their offensive coordinator. Oh wow, Mike Sandford

1284
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 3: expected to be the next coach at Western Kentucky. SIS

1285
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Speaker 3: Pete Fammel tweeted that out about an hour ago.

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Speaker 1: Good for him. What is that?

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01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: Is there?

1288
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 3: Any you had some negative reactions to some play calling

1289
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 3: this year?

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Speaker 4: The play calling was part of the issue this year. Yeah,

1291
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Speaker 4: but Mike Sanford's a young guy. He's got coaching in

1292
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 4: his jeans, so I don't think this is entirely unexpected.

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Speaker 4: There was some smoke that maybe he would be bolting

1294
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 4: for Houston for some of the other yeah gigs that

1295
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 4: became available. I'm not surprised to see that he is

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Speaker 4: getting the gig at Western Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: Good move for him, all right, fair enough, good move

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Speaker 1: for him.

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Speaker 4: Okay, On that note, thank you as always for tuning

1300
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Speaker 4: into the very bal check us out iTunes dot com,

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Speaker 4: slash solid Verbal. Don't forget to get on in the

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Speaker 4: bullpick and pool. You still got time for that guy

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Speaker 4: over there, Dan Rubinstein for myself, Ty Hilton Brand, catch

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Speaker 4: you all in a few days.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, stay solid. He