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Speaker 1: My wife throughout the flowers I got her on Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 1: this is okayop home of the craziest true stories on

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Speaker 1: the Internet. As we just saw, I'm John and Sam

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Speaker 1: is Opie in the wrong for messing up the late

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Speaker 1: husband's wedding ring.

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Speaker 2: I mean definitely in the wrong. And you might get

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Speaker 2: haunted like jessecrated a ring of a dead man.

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Speaker 1: You won't just be declared the a hole. You will

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Speaker 1: be haunted for the rest of your locked it for sure,

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Speaker 1: But I want to see what really happens. Let's go,

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Speaker 1: let's get into it. So happy Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's just a Valentine's dy episode. Yes that's true.

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Speaker 2: This is a special Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 1: And just read alarms because we're so much love, Okay, Mortar.

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Speaker 2: And Pestle says.

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Speaker 1: I met my wife when we were twenty. We got

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Speaker 1: together shortly after we met, and we got engaged at

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Speaker 1: twenty six and just married last autumn.

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Speaker 2: Congrats, Opie, congrats.

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Speaker 1: When I met her, she was a widow she had

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Speaker 1: she had twenty six when he met her at twenty.

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Speaker 2: At twenty, he was a widow. At twenty, she was

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Speaker 2: a widow. That is really tough. Wow, wow, And maybe

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Speaker 2: we'll hear the backstory. She had known her late husband

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Speaker 2: since infancy, her mom baby sat him, and they had

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Speaker 1: Married at eighteen years old. He passed away in a

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Speaker 1: car accident when they were twenty, shortly before I met.

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Speaker 1: When we first started dating, she was still grieving his death.

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Speaker 1: She would often have panic attacks and lock herself in

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Speaker 1: the years, this has lessened and lessened, and she never

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Speaker 1: brings him up anymore.

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Speaker 2: I wonder, like, is it a good idea to get

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Speaker 2: in a relationship like that quickly after? I yeah, I

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Speaker 2: could imagine like your heart but almost like, what are

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Speaker 2: all the reasons for like a rebound? Right? You're like heartbroken?

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Speaker 1: You want someone to kind of like build a void

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Speaker 1: for lack of a better way of describing it. So

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Speaker 1: maybe this was just like bouncing right into it. Also,

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Speaker 1: you're twenty twenty years old, like people twenty years old,

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but getting dumped is way different than the

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Speaker 2: love of your life.

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Speaker 1: It ising so I'm saying, like, if it's that much

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Speaker 1: even if it's like it's like seventeen hundred's Boston when

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Speaker 1: and so like people would just jump right back into

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Speaker 2: Would just watch. And also financial stability back then too true,

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Speaker 1: Even today's a lot easier too. He's a lot better

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Speaker 1: than one were talking rant and other things. But Opie says,

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Speaker 1: our first Valentine's Day, I got her chocolates and flowers.

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Speaker 1: She accepted them and said that she appreciated the gesture.

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Speaker 1: But then she said she thinks Valentine's Day is just

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Speaker 1: I retorted that I think it's a sweet day where

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Speaker 1: But I see you in the comments if this seems

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Speaker 1: I think days her first love. There's something below the surface.

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Speaker 1: Look put I see you in the comments. If you're

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Speaker 2: Eighth grade. Oh so they were so just because they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's that's a lot to process

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Speaker 2: Also a bad side effect. All of your friends who

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Speaker 2: at your wedding. That's true. Most if you celebrate your

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Speaker 2: if you celebrate your marriage on Valentine's Day, most likely

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Speaker 2: marriage to have other people propose at right, keep feeding this, guys,

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Speaker 2: get those marriages on Valentine's Day to keep feeding us

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Speaker 2: most wedding stories. We were freshly in a relationship, so

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Speaker 2: I digressed and agreed no Valentine's Day, so I never

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Speaker 2: attempted to celebrate it again. This is this relationship is

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Speaker 2: not off good start. I'm very curious everyone in the comments,

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Speaker 2: Saying what do you She's not ready to be in

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Speaker 1: I think that's then that is the real answer, right,

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Speaker 2: And also but like I think I feel for her

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Speaker 2: They got married on Valentine's Day. Well, well, but I

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Speaker 1: She never discusses him anymore, so I think, why not

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Speaker 1: me send her some flowers on Valentine's Day, after they

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Speaker 2: Actually, I mean I think that's I feel like that's

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Speaker 2: Do you leap it on?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like just just to give her

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Speaker 1: I mean, be like, hey, this is some on the

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Speaker 1: thirty surprise love day. Right, Oh my gosh, We've come

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Speaker 1: so far over the years. Our relationship is near perfect me.

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Speaker 1: I love her beyond her non solid nothing is wrong

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Speaker 2: She said, it's the one thing.

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Speaker 1: That she's ever explicitly asked me not to do. And

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Speaker 1: I couldn't even respect that. She grabbed the flowers out

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 1: I follow after her, and she starts screaming at the

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Speaker 1: I have never seen her this bad. I get down

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Speaker 1: on the ground with her and holds her profusely, apologizing.

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Speaker 1: She calms down and we go back to our apartment.

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Speaker 1: A few hours pass by, and admittedly I make an

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Speaker 2: How bigger? How? How? What? What does he do?

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Speaker 1: She's on her computer doing some work, and I ask her,

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Speaker 2: Dude, He's so just a rebound. Dude, He's so just

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Speaker 2: a rebound, And obviously she still loves him. It's an

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Speaker 2: impossible question to ask someone who's lost it. We start

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Speaker 2: If they pass away, it's not like you divorce them

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't do it.

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Speaker 2: I regretted the words as soon as they came out. Oh, dude,

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Speaker 1: I wish I could take them back instantly. We haven't

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Speaker 1: This is like six years or five years later, six

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Speaker 2: It's killing me. I had to ask her response. What's

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Speaker 2: her response? No response, nothing at all, which is almost worse. Worse.

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Speaker 2: Actually no, I don't think it's worse, but the silence

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Speaker 1: I get angrier. I know I shouldn't have, but I

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Speaker 1: where is she going? Still nothing. She wouldn't even make

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Speaker 1: It's like I'm watching myself from the third person.

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Speaker 2: So rough, dude.

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Speaker 1: Her late husband was cremated, so she kept his wedding

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm just remembering the title. Oh Pee, he's

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Speaker 2: about to do something you can't come back from. I

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Speaker 2: grabbed the box.

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Speaker 1: I get a hammer, and I start bashing the ring

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Speaker 1: in and telling her he's dead and I'm her husband.

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Speaker 2: Now, Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: That's so abusive.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, oh man, oh pe, that you may be

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Speaker 2: the a hole.

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Speaker 1: You might be an a I can't believe she's not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too fast. Like she doesn't she hasn't fully greed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, any time that opens, right, it's like that happens

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Speaker 2: So what do you think will be? And please share

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I understand the It is like a precarious

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Speaker 2: Just it just is what it is. Like, I feel like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, it is true. People people celebrate

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Speaker 1: John, I'm just letting you go. I'm just I'm just

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Speaker 1: Her brother called me and let me know that she's

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Speaker 1: He asked if he could come pick up more more

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Speaker 1: She hasn't texted me back or called me herself. I'm

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Speaker 1: And according to everyone here, I have no one to

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Speaker 1: I'm still reading all of them. Some are hard to read,

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Speaker 1: you guessed correct. Yeah, but it's hard to live in

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Speaker 2: It is hard to live this is a ghost in

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Speaker 2: What's the what's the song where it's like that the

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Speaker 3: The chicken how to save Brood?

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: I sing creed at karaoke. We're looking up Shadow of

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Speaker 2: Over again. Make me change my mind. That's not living

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Speaker 2: in shadow of a ghost. It gives you the vibe

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Speaker 2: I guess. All right, Bob, we're getting back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I bashed that ring to really show her.

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Speaker 1: You don't say some of my comments on here were

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Speaker 1: I was wrong what.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna say. Never Mind, I stopped

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she texted me back shortly after her brother called.

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Speaker 1: The next time you see me, there will be a

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Speaker 2: I'm scared of you now. I mean, it's a heartbreaking, dude.

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Speaker 1: Like first he started yelling at her like uh uh,

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Speaker 3: A wild thing to say to like someone you know,

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Speaker 1: Like he again, if you're gonna be in a relationship

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you just have to fight with a ghost. Final,

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Speaker 2: I can't fight a ghost. My god, any hits baby

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Speaker 1: That was verbatim. So I guess that is that. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh shit, dude, I guess it isn't as black

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Speaker 1: I knew I messed up. I just didn't think it

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Part of me is so angry that I want to

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Speaker 2: But he can be a good person. He can be

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Speaker 1: I'm curious everyone watching Sam like what should he do?

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Speaker 2: Like, what are some acts I mean want to do?

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Speaker 2: Don't throw away the ring to try to fix it? Yes, three,

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Speaker 2: Might it might make him more self aware of voice

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Speaker 2: because he doesn't. He feel like he oscillates between self

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Speaker 1: Going back and forth. Yeah, so great advice. Let us

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Speaker 1: But let's get into this last update, last actual update.

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Speaker 1: After I left her multiple voice mails and texts from

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Speaker 2: Way, this is all the voicemails and texts after she was.

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Speaker 1: Like never context me again. Oh boy, she says, I

437
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Speaker 1: love you. I wanted to spend the rest of my

438
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Speaker 1: life with you, but it's become clear that you can't

439
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Speaker 1: accept the life I had before you. I've learned how

440
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Speaker 1: to love because of him, and because of that, I

441
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Speaker 1: was able to love you as long and as much

442
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Speaker 1: as I did. In a way, You're right. I wasn't

443
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Speaker 1: ready to get into a relationship when we did, but

444
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Speaker 1: we did, and we were in deep. I wasn't ready,

445
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Speaker 1: but I didn't want to lose you because of the

446
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Speaker 1: wrong timing, and we built an amazing life together, or

447
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: so I thought. What you did is unforgivable. I would

448
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: rather you have hit me with the hammer than leave

449
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Speaker 1: the ring.

450
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Speaker 2: Intact.

451
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Speaker 1: I got rid of all my photos with him because

452
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Speaker 1: you didn't want it in our home. That ring was

453
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: That ring was all I had left. Please do not

454
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Speaker 1: get rid of it. Keep the apartment, keep the car,

455
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: keep anything you want of ours. I will tell any lawyer.

456
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: I want the bare minimum, but the ring is mine.

457
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Speaker 1: If you have ever cared about me, let me just

458
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Speaker 1: have it back so I can get it fixed. We

459
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Speaker 1: are not coming back from this. I'm sorry. I hope

460
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: you'll heal from this, but there's nothing you can say

461
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Speaker 1: or do to undo the damage here. What's done is done.

462
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Speaker 1: Take care of yourself. Legal proceedings are the only thing

463
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Speaker 1: in our future. And I'm sorry that that has to

464
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Speaker 1: be the case. But I'm the sure letter, truly. I

465
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Speaker 1: mean I feel like now probably, I mean, she's gone

466
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: through so much grief, she's probably had a lot of

467
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Speaker 1: growing to just choose forced a lot of growing, and.

468
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Speaker 2: And and she admitted to kind of what we said, like, yeah,

469
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: she wasn't ready for a relationship, yes, But the thing

470
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Speaker 2: is he also wasn't ready for that relationship, not at all,

471
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: because he wasn't. He wasn't. He was still comparing himself.

472
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: He and he could have been like and again like

473
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Speaker 1: he was young, too young, young in love whatever, But

474
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Speaker 1: like he could have also been like, hey, I love

475
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Speaker 1: what we have going here, but maybe we should you know, pause,

476
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Speaker 1: take it slow, pause, just to make sure we're building

477
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Speaker 1: on a solidcoumodation and give you time, like I care

478
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: about you and I want you to be able to grief.

479
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: But also, I mean, I guess there's not a ton

480
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: of twenty year old dudes running around saying that when

481
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: I got a shorty coming away.

482
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Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't know what good poetic

483
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Speaker 2: I mean, calls it like a season. Yeah, man, Yeah,

484
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything he can do to save this. No,

485
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: but he can be better going forward. Yeah, you know,

486
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 2: save the ring, restore, restore the ring. I think you

487
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: could still preserve. What do you have a question for you? Though?

488
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: So she said, you didn't let me have any pictures

489
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: of him in the house. What do you think about that?

490
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: The the the idea of having pictures of not I mean,

491
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Speaker 2: it's not like but let me let me ask you

492
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: multiple stages A right, you're dating, you're you're you're dating

493
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: to be married to a woe. Right, I can imagine that.

494
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: And she had a ex lover that meant a lot

495
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: to her right, still still alive, ex lover, And she

496
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: has pictures like, you know, like four pictures throughout the house.

497
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: Four pictures, four pictures, just four, just four. Are you

498
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: okay with that, No, no, all right, Now he's dead. Yeah, ye,

499
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 2: but he died after they broke up. He got an

500
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: erection and all the blood went to a massive piece

501
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: and this man, okay, I'll play along with you. And

502
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: he's dead dead after and she keeps She's like, oh man,

503
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: he's dead, I need to remember him. So she has

504
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: four she puts four pictures up that and have you

505
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: put the stipulation? Uh, he passed away after they were

506
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: in a relationship, but still meant a lot. They ended

507
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: on good terms. That's tough. Maybe he taught me how

508
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: to love. It is the picture just of the guy.

509
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Together kissing together? What kissing? Okay, kissing?

510
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: Kissing is probably too far, too far, Okay, I might

511
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: sit down and be like, what is a meaningful wait

512
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Speaker 1: for you to commemorate this.

513
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Speaker 2: To the Eiffel Tower. I mean kissing kidding, I meant

514
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 2: gotta be any gotta be any other photo. But I mean,

515
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Speaker 2: but you would allow a photo? Yeah, yeah, yeah, a

516
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: lot of photo. Now, prime of the relationship died the

517
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: same reason.

518
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that so in the relationship especially they were

519
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: married too.

520
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: Let's say I'm in Opie's exact same, like kind of

521
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: situation you are in op situation. You're twenty years old.

522
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm twenty years old, prime of yours. Got a hot

523
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: piece of ass come in my way? Yeah is coursing?

524
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: Damn Sophia came to create content today, ladies.

525
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Speaker 3: John.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I feel like photos, like like, hey, kissing,

527
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: no kissing, but photos? All right? I think O kiss right?

528
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 4: They only ever photo they're kissing. The only photos of this.

529
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: Oh my next lover, it's kissing in from the Eiffel Tower.

530
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Speaker 4: Sure five, do it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go. There, John's a real one? Would

532
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: you allow I would not know like of these crazy

533
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: scenarios that I that I proposed to our dear boy, John,

534
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: But you know what I allow you to do? Sam?

535
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: Now what read this next story? Hey, let's get into

536
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Speaker 2: it