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Speaker 1: David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, it's day three
Speaker 1: of the twenty eighteen NFL Combine. We welcome you to
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis excuse me, the Indiana Convention Center here in Indianapolis, Indiana.
Speaker 1: As always, you've got the Draft show with myself, Brian
Speaker 1: brought us Dame Brugler, David Hellman. Boys actually saw some
Speaker 1: guys on field work today, try running backs, offensive line.
Speaker 1: Uh what do we say yesterday I was gonna be
Speaker 1: a Seaquon Barkley show. We did say that. It certainly
Speaker 1: was two hundred and thirty three pounds what he was
Speaker 1: able to do. Uh. I hope Cowboy fans are okay
Speaker 1: with having another special back in the division because the
Speaker 1: Giants at number two, it's gonna be tough for them
Speaker 1: to pass up. Wan wanna bet Uh No, it's too
Speaker 1: early for that. But you think of Dave Gettelman, he
Speaker 1: drafted a running back top ten last year, and Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey when he was the GM in Carolina, he wishes
Speaker 1: Barkley was there when he picked at Carolina. Oh sure,
Speaker 1: well not no, no, he probably doesn't because he's no
Speaker 1: longer in Carolina. No no no, no, no, I'm saying the
Speaker 1: same type of that kind of back. Yeah sure, now
Speaker 1: that he's in New York. Look, they want to hold
Speaker 1: on to elim Manning. They've got obviously at the wide
Speaker 1: receivers with Beckham and Shephard, and they have a tight end,
Speaker 1: big time tight end and Evan Ingram missing pieces of
Speaker 1: running back. You know, we could talk about the offensive
Speaker 1: line and how ads and shambles, right, but you added
Speaker 1: a running back to that mix. It's gonna help Eli
Speaker 1: Manning's gonna help the rest of the offense. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough for the Giants that pass on Barkley at
Speaker 1: number two. Dave, you came away pressed with him as well.
Speaker 1: How could you not? I mean, my god? He yeah,
Speaker 1: two thirty three and he ran out on a four
Speaker 1: four one yeah, and the forty one inch vert. So
Speaker 1: he's putting up dB numbers at thirty pounds, forty pounds
Speaker 1: heavier than the average dB. It's it's rare that you
Speaker 1: get a player whose tape is so good that all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you come and do the workout and
Speaker 1: then the workout is just as good as the tape.
Speaker 1: Dane's been telling you for two weeks that that's this
Speaker 1: is what was going to happen. No, I know, and
Speaker 1: I trust Dane. I listened to Dane, and I I
Speaker 1: I know snow my experience though how many times have
Speaker 1: we and I want to get into this today and
Speaker 1: this is but I wanted to give you guys an
Speaker 1: opportunity to talk about Barkeley a little bit. But since
Speaker 1: we'll we'll change that about how the tape looks. How
Speaker 1: much do you trust your tape now when some guys
Speaker 1: don't have the types of workouts today? Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying though, when you know, as a scout,
Speaker 1: you're sitting there watching these players work out, and Barkley's
Speaker 1: workout and tape is all tremendous. I'm sure the the
Speaker 1: the interviews with him are wonderful and everything you know
Speaker 1: you find out about the kid. But what happened that
Speaker 1: when the workout doesn't match the tape, where is your
Speaker 1: commitment level on these guys, are you gonna let it
Speaker 1: influence you? Or, as we always like to say, hey,
Speaker 1: this is one part of the puzzle. Well, and how
Speaker 1: are you going to trust the tape more than what
Speaker 1: you saw in that field today? And there's several players
Speaker 1: that fall into that category today every year. But you
Speaker 1: do need to let it influence you to a certain degree.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't just say, oh, I like this
Speaker 1: player and his numbers match up, so you know the
Speaker 1: numbers matter, and then his other player, well, the numbers
Speaker 1: didn't match up for the tape, so the numbers don't
Speaker 1: matter for this player. It's the combine is a cross
Speaker 1: checking exercise. If the numbers do not match up with
Speaker 1: what you expected, you go back to the tape and
Speaker 1: you figure out why. If a wide receiver who you
Speaker 1: expected to run fast based on what you saw on
Speaker 1: film doesn't in the forty yard dash, which the wide
Speaker 1: receivers will run the morrow on Saturday, then you go
Speaker 1: back to the tape and say, okay, what did we
Speaker 1: miss here? And now a case of this is Colton Miller.
Speaker 1: I was gonna go, can I can I just do
Speaker 1: cult Miller numbers left? Yeah, Colton Miller if you if
Speaker 1: you haven't guessed by now, and I'll clude myself and
Speaker 1: I am not a Culton Miller fan. The tape is
Speaker 1: fourth round. The tape is a fourth round tape. And
Speaker 1: there's some people though that have him, and I want
Speaker 1: to say Mike Mayock is one who has him in
Speaker 1: the top five of his offensive lineman. I don't see
Speaker 1: that personally watching his tape. I really really don't. Colton
Speaker 1: Miller UCLA is six eight six zero six zo eight five.
Speaker 1: He is three hundred and nine pounds, thirty four arm,
Speaker 1: ten and three quarters hands. Okay today he today. His
Speaker 1: official time was a four nine five okay, twenty four
Speaker 1: times with the weights thirty one and a half on
Speaker 1: the vertical, ten one on the broad, ten one on
Speaker 1: the broad, and seven three to four in the three
Speaker 1: combs outstanding for the So now now, okay, okay, Now,
Speaker 1: if you get a guy, if you get a guy,
Speaker 1: and this reminds me, guy, Mike Mamula, Mike Mamula, I'm old.
Speaker 1: I'm old. Everybody knows the combined story of my original
Speaker 1: exactly exactly when the Boston College seventh overall picked by
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. Okay, I'm just telling you right now,
Speaker 1: though you see Colton Miller's numbers that way, and now
Speaker 1: are you going back and you're trying to fool yourself.
Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, I do see a little burst.
Speaker 1: Oh I do see a little athletic ability. Oh I
Speaker 1: do see a little string Or are you just saying
Speaker 1: you know what he is? What he is? And I'm
Speaker 1: going with that And I don't think he's a bad
Speaker 1: athlete on film. It's more consistency, It's more there are
Speaker 1: several occasions in pass pro where he just he looked
Speaker 1: like he didn't know what he was doing. I totally agree.
Speaker 1: And even if it doesn't matter if you have the
Speaker 1: shuffle quickness, the lateral movement skills to protect the edge
Speaker 1: or protect inside moves, if you don't understand what's coming,
Speaker 1: if you don't have those instincts, if you know the
Speaker 1: recognition skills, if you don't know how to use your hands,
Speaker 1: if you don't have the core strength, it's not gonna matter.
Speaker 1: NFL rushers are gonna eat you up, through you, or around.
Speaker 1: We need to, but it is it is worth going
Speaker 1: back to the tape to figure it out and trying
Speaker 1: to you know, we don't want to be stubborn and
Speaker 1: say no on tape. It was a fourth rounder. I
Speaker 1: don't care about the numbers. No, we reason visit the
Speaker 1: tape and see if we if it changes her mind
Speaker 1: at all. Does that do anything for you? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it it's it's it's like the Ultimate Catch twenty two.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to be the guy that
Speaker 1: falls for the workout warrior, but you look at that
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean it's obviously it's super appealing when
Speaker 1: you when you see a guy that can do that
Speaker 1: type of stuff. But I mean call a cliche if
Speaker 1: you want to, I lean more toward tape always. Oh. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm not saying I know for sure what
Speaker 1: to make of the guy, but I I do my
Speaker 1: absolute best not to fall in love with anything that
Speaker 1: happens here. And this is where scouts earn their money
Speaker 1: because you watch, no question, when you watch the tape. Okay,
Speaker 1: what is he being coached to do? What is there
Speaker 1: something that we can do that our coaching staff can
Speaker 1: do that's gonna fix this? Uh, it's it makes it
Speaker 1: tough because all these guys are coached in different ways. Uh.
Speaker 1: At UCLA, they were asked to do different things than
Speaker 1: they were asked to do across town at USC. It's
Speaker 1: just and you have to figure that as a scout.
Speaker 1: And with Colton Miller, it's gonna be something that every
Speaker 1: team is gonna try to investigate and figure it out.
Speaker 1: With some prospects, it's pretty easy. You understand what you're
Speaker 1: getting sae Quon Barkley. We mentioned you know what your
Speaker 1: game with Saquon Barkley. Will her Nandez had a great
Speaker 1: day and that matches the tape. I think you under
Speaker 1: you know what you're game with Will Hernandez. With Colton
Speaker 1: Miller a little bit more of a question mark. You
Speaker 1: have to figure that out. Let me ask you this
Speaker 1: did Will her Nandez today? And we know what happened
Speaker 1: with when? Because he with the Singer Bowl and he
Speaker 1: played through it. The laboring problem, he's got it fixed.
Speaker 1: He didn't work out here? Did Will her Nandez help
Speaker 1: himself enough? Two inch closer to say? With with win
Speaker 1: and how you would consider Will Hernandez? Did you feel
Speaker 1: like that this was big gap between the two? Or
Speaker 1: did will Hernandez help him enough athletically to make you
Speaker 1: feel like they'll wait a minute, here's a big, powerful,
Speaker 1: strong guy that runs well. Now, he's got everything, He's
Speaker 1: got all the little uh intangibles that you want. I
Speaker 1: mean again, I could, I could read you the numbers
Speaker 1: here too. You know he's six six or two three,
Speaker 1: he's three twenty seven down from three to forty at
Speaker 1: the comb at the Senior Bowl. Absolutely terrifying. Yeah, thirty
Speaker 1: two arms, ninety seven eights hands. Okay, here we go,
Speaker 1: here's your official time. He's running that thing at five
Speaker 1: one five. It's a great time. Yeah, thirty seven times
Speaker 1: at the bench, twenty four inch vertical jump, eight eight
Speaker 1: with the broad, seven five nine with the three comb Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but did athletically did he do anything to kind
Speaker 1: of close the gap a little bit with because when
Speaker 1: unable to work out today. Not in my mind, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think those were all numbers that you expected. Um,
Speaker 1: did you expect the five one five from Will Hernandez running? Um?
Speaker 1: I would say more of a five two guy, So one,
Speaker 1: I was thinking five two five, five two seven. So
Speaker 1: a five one five is a great number for him,
Speaker 1: there's no question. But again, how many times you watch
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman run forty yards? Yeah? Well it's one
Speaker 1: seven six on the ten, right, and that's a great
Speaker 1: time for I think that's tied for I think the
Speaker 1: best ten yard core bit I believe. Well, actually Miller,
Speaker 1: yeah Miller had Miller had one six seven, okay, and
Speaker 1: then who else we O'Neill was one seven. The former
Speaker 1: tight end had a good day working out. But there's
Speaker 1: another one I was gonna bring back to the Senior Bowl, Okay,
Speaker 1: Isaiah Win and Will Hernandez were both there, right, Isaiah
Speaker 1: Win was the best guard there at the Senior Bowl. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When they were wearing pads, we're in a helmet, they
Speaker 1: were doing football for actual football exactly. So as much
Speaker 1: as I love Will Hernandez, he's a first rump pick.
Speaker 1: I tweeted this earlier. I think he confirmed he's a
Speaker 1: top thirty player in this draft. But I'm not going
Speaker 1: to put him above Isaiah Winn or say that, you know,
Speaker 1: I think what he is what we expected. He confirmed that,
Speaker 1: And I feel if my team drafts Will Hernandez in
Speaker 1: the first round, my team just got a good player. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How are are you under the impression that there's a
Speaker 1: sizeable gap there? I almost And I feel like though,
Speaker 1: and I'm and the commitment level I'm getting I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get here, is that everybody feels like that Win
Speaker 1: would be a good pick at nineteen and and then
Speaker 1: Hernandez and Thedez and Hernandez is a trade back option. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm kind of getting that vibe from as
Speaker 1: a group. I think the vibe I get see and
Speaker 1: that's I get the reason I asked you the question
Speaker 1: is I think of both guys as like different answers
Speaker 1: to the same question, Like they're all I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: one's better than the other, but it's not a big
Speaker 1: enough difference that I think of them differently exactly Nelson
Speaker 1: top tier, Sure, these two next year. I think of
Speaker 1: both of them as guys like you're probably reaching a
Speaker 1: little bit at nineteen, but first round guy wipe out options.
Speaker 1: So in that sense, I'm thinking, what's your favorite stupid
Speaker 1: cliche ice cream? Ice cream? Ice cream? It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you think Hernandez is better than when I think wins
Speaker 1: better than Hernandez. But at the same you're getting basically
Speaker 1: the same thing with either one. Are you getting the
Speaker 1: same player day Maybe not the same player, but the
Speaker 1: same thing, you know what I mean? Like I said,
Speaker 1: I think they're both in that second tier of guards.
Speaker 1: You know, both are deserving your first round consideration, and
Speaker 1: I think they're both wipeout options where there are other
Speaker 1: directions I'd like to go. But if I'm only left
Speaker 1: with the guards and if Yeah, the reason why I'm
Speaker 1: bringing all this up today is because we did see
Speaker 1: these guys work out. Yeah. I know, I'm not just
Speaker 1: saying no, I'm not just trying to hammer the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have to take a guard. I'm just telling you because
Speaker 1: of the guys that worked out today, why that we're
Speaker 1: having this discussion right here. You know, that's that's a
Speaker 1: big part of it. H And you know, I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna see it throughout the week with quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: wide receivers tomorrow, yeah, defensive line and linebackers uh the
Speaker 1: next day, and then finishing with the secondary players. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see. I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 1: unfair to I think that Isaiah win since he's not,
Speaker 1: he hasn't be able to order out. That's why I
Speaker 1: was asking, though, did you sometimes out of side? Out
Speaker 1: of mind at least? And you're right about the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl stuff. You are right about that, But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying for the athletic testing part of it, you know
Speaker 1: that you're you're right about the pads and the helm
Speaker 1: and all. I get that, But the athletic testing did it?
Speaker 1: Did her did her Nandez? Again? I just keep kind
Speaker 1: of my mind feeling like though that we felt like
Speaker 1: that Hernandez was more they twenty six, twenty seven, twenty
Speaker 1: eight kind of guy as opposed to a nineteen guy. Bugler,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you he'd never wanted either one of them
Speaker 1: at nineteen. That's been a consistent and again we're talking
Speaker 1: about that now as you know the wipeout option and
Speaker 1: all that. Could you envision a scenario where will her
Speaker 1: Nandez is the nineteenth best player in this draft? No,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. Okay, Well, then there there we go. I
Speaker 1: what about Isaiah Win? I think you could? You could
Speaker 1: you could get me to say that yet, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: so there is a little bit of a separation. But
Speaker 1: and will Hernandez had a great day. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see, Yeah, I'm trying to say, did
Speaker 1: will Hernandez do enough in in on the field for
Speaker 1: scouts to elevate himself instead of being a thirty guy
Speaker 1: to being a considering a twenty twenty one, twenty two
Speaker 1: kind of those and the fans asking what it's the difference.
Speaker 1: I think it's consistency. With Isaiah Winn, he is consistent,
Speaker 1: You're getting the same player each rep. He's very balanced
Speaker 1: at the point of contact. And then you have a
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez who is a lot of times he's very aggressive,
Speaker 1: but a lot of times he will get off balance. Right.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't have the same level of consistency. I
Speaker 1: think Will Hernandez is gonna be a long time pro
Speaker 1: in this league, a very good player, a top thirty
Speaker 1: player in this draft. I just prefer Win because of
Speaker 1: that consistency. Let me ask you this. I mean, you
Speaker 1: said yourself, we've beaten guard into the ground. We have, dude,
Speaker 1: and I know we just talked about but we're talking
Speaker 1: about names. We just talked about Colton Miller, Right, Did
Speaker 1: any of these tackles drastically change your opinion about them
Speaker 1: for a good or for bad? I'm obviously we could
Speaker 1: talk about Orlando Brown. I'll tell you one thing. Terrell
Speaker 1: Crosby from Oregon, I was expecting to have a better day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was really expecting to him to have a better day.
Speaker 1: I always I even wrote it in my pregame notes.
Speaker 1: I thought he was a you know, a light footed guy.
Speaker 1: I didn't see a light footed guy out there working out.
Speaker 1: I saw a guy and that it came to the
Speaker 1: change of directions and things like that. I didn't see that.
Speaker 1: I saw a much better player on tape than I
Speaker 1: did working out out there. Again, it's the tape's really
Speaker 1: important to me. But you look at his time. The
Speaker 1: official time on him was five two, three seventeen times
Speaker 1: with the bench, thirty with the vertical eight nine with
Speaker 1: the broad seven eight nine in the three cone. Huh
Speaker 1: A high number. Huh. I didn't see that. I didn't
Speaker 1: see that on tape. Throw another one out there, Austin Corbett. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's yeah again, three cone. That's going to measure your
Speaker 1: change of direction skills, your ability to quickly redirect your momentum,
Speaker 1: and that's something Those are high numbers you want for
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. You want below seven point five, closer
Speaker 1: to seven point two. Yeah, that's what we got from
Speaker 1: a few of these guys. But you know, and we
Speaker 1: have to touch on Orlando Brown real quick. Sure, a
Speaker 1: player who I mentioned this yesterday. You were absolutely right,
Speaker 1: and he did not have to come here and be
Speaker 1: the best athlete, right, he just couldn't be the worst,
Speaker 1: and he was the worst. I mean he hit historical
Speaker 1: lows and some of these some of these drills, not
Speaker 1: only the forty yard dash, which it is what it
Speaker 1: is for offensive linemen, but you look at the vertical,
Speaker 1: you look at the broad jump, Brian, you got those
Speaker 1: numbers for any it's nineteen and a half in the
Speaker 1: I was gonna let you finish up there. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: official time on him was five eight five in forty
Speaker 1: and forty fifth worst ever. Fourteen on the bench, nineteen
Speaker 1: five on the vertical, nineteen and a half inches on
Speaker 1: the vertical, six ten on the broad jump, seven eight
Speaker 1: seven on the three cone. Well, at least his street
Speaker 1: cone was in line with Corbett, who we just kind
Speaker 1: of talked about thought had a decent damn mean, he
Speaker 1: was five one five in the forty And I think
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown's a guy that even if you go back
Speaker 1: to the tape, like I don't think it's we knew
Speaker 1: he's not a great athlete. He's a heavy footed athlete. Yes,
Speaker 1: you just have to kind of trust the tape. You
Speaker 1: have to see that. That's what I'm saying. But that's
Speaker 1: where it gets scary, because you're talking about the Big
Speaker 1: twelve where they play a little different brand of foot sure, um,
Speaker 1: and you know he has the wide hips and the
Speaker 1: huge wingspan where he can compensate for that lack of
Speaker 1: lateral quickness. But against NFL rushers, it's a big difference
Speaker 1: than what he face in the Big twelve. Will he
Speaker 1: be able to compensate in the same ways that it's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough to stay on him? Okay? Does he
Speaker 1: go from say a two three on boards to be
Speaker 1: in a five six? I don't mean does that? Does
Speaker 1: his workout drop him that much? You can't if you
Speaker 1: if you like a player that much to put him
Speaker 1: in a two three, you can't drop him that much
Speaker 1: just based on a work he had that conversation off
Speaker 1: the air, both y all said you had second round
Speaker 1: grades on him heading into this. Yeah, I And as
Speaker 1: bad as it was, I can't imagine dropping a guy
Speaker 1: that far. Maybe I'm not. I'm not gonna touch him.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna touch him, and I'll be stubborn about
Speaker 1: that because again, that tape means something to me. But
Speaker 1: I understand, I understand the historic low number. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna touch him on your board. Not you wouldn't draft him, No, no, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: on my board. On my board, I'm gonna you know,
Speaker 1: I've got some other guys on my board that are
Speaker 1: ahead of him, sure, you know, and I think we
Speaker 1: all do. And I look at my board. Williams actually
Speaker 1: have O'Neill ahead of him from Pitt had a great day, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then and then Brown, So he's tom he's more
Speaker 1: like a two three. That's why I brought it up.
Speaker 1: You've got Brian O'Neil ahead of him. I'm jump I'm
Speaker 1: gonna jump the gun because we had a question about
Speaker 1: him because he had such a good day. Because that
Speaker 1: first round for you, no, no second Williams, O'Neill, and
Speaker 1: Brown were all second round grades for me. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think at the Senior Bowl we saw why with O'Neill,
Speaker 1: as athletic as he is, he's got some power issue.
Speaker 1: He's got some real power issues. And so that's the
Speaker 1: the functional power something that will need to be addressed
Speaker 1: as he goes to the next level again, Nate, sold
Speaker 1: are the guys you know that David David Bakti. They're
Speaker 1: guys that I've historically ding because of lack of strength,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, what happens. They play ten
Speaker 1: years in this league and it's not And I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to compare. I'm not trying to pair O'Neil, but
Speaker 1: it's happened to me before and we both agree as
Speaker 1: the second round player. Yeah, and so it's not like
Speaker 1: we dislike him. We like him. Um, we just don't
Speaker 1: want to overcompensate with what he did today because we
Speaker 1: know he's a good athlete. We expected that. Again, he
Speaker 1: was a tight end when he arrived at Pitt They
Speaker 1: moved in the offensive line. He's made that transition, but
Speaker 1: he does need to strengthen his core, his upper body
Speaker 1: and figure out ways how he can compensate for his
Speaker 1: lack of strength with some of that athleticism. Twenty two
Speaker 1: times with the weights. That's one more than you know,
Speaker 1: the guys I just mentioned, right, You guys are disappointing
Speaker 1: me a lot right now on what I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just desperately looking for people to go ahead of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys at nineteen and I wanted to tackle to vault
Speaker 1: into that conversation with a great day. Hey all are
Speaker 1: telling me it didn't happen Colton Miller. Well from yeah,
Speaker 1: people could fall in love with Colton Miller at all.
Speaker 1: If Colton Miller went in the top eighteen picks, make it, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: be shocked at all? What did you say your grade was?
Speaker 1: We both game a fourth round grade base on the tape.
Speaker 1: We watched him together, four round guy on the tape
Speaker 1: just for us. Now, there might there might have been
Speaker 1: someone else's chocolate chip strawberry. That's a hell of a
Speaker 1: flavor of ice cream. To say fourth round to first
Speaker 1: and I get there. We're not moving them different. I'm
Speaker 1: not moving But if someone had a second round grade
Speaker 1: coming into today on him and he did what he
Speaker 1: did on the field, I could see him. All these
Speaker 1: offensive linement this year are gonna get overdrafted. This second
Speaker 1: rounders are going the first, including m They all need
Speaker 1: Every team needs offensive line depth. So these guys are
Speaker 1: gonna get overdrafted. Colton Miller will absolutely be overdrafted eighteen.
Speaker 1: You promise, You can't promise, but I'd say there's a chance.
Speaker 1: Push me some prospects down the board. Yeah, I'm with
Speaker 1: you on that. All right, Well, it looks like ken
Speaker 1: we need to take a break though, right are we
Speaker 1: doing good? We can keep running here take a little break,
Speaker 1: or well, we'll take a break right now here and
Speaker 1: we come back. We'll hear a little We'll get your questions.
Speaker 1: I know you guys got a lot of them out there. Sorry,
Speaker 1: we don't have the phone lines here, the capability here
Speaker 1: at the combine, but we will get to your Twitter
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Speaker 1: here at the twenty eighteen NFL Combine. Brian brought us
Speaker 1: here with you along with Dame Burglar David Hellman. I
Speaker 1: was just checking out the periscope numbers and stuff we have.
Speaker 1: Once again, thank you folks. I know it's a Friday
Speaker 1: afternoon evening around the country and we appreciate you guys
Speaker 1: hanging out with us here at the combine and talking
Speaker 1: a little draft. I was going to try and do
Speaker 1: a way of kind of answer answering a question. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'll periscope, Dave, I'll if you get to Twitter on
Speaker 1: the twenty yeah, I will. I will figure out a
Speaker 1: way to kind of get one and not to mess
Speaker 1: up too bad. But if you want to go ahead
Speaker 1: and that maybe get a couple of questions here on
Speaker 1: periscope if you want to fire those in as well.
Speaker 1: We'll try to do that as we go along. Yeah, okay, well,
Speaker 1: I mean this is we just talked a whole segment
Speaker 1: about this, but Ralph wants a little more detail on
Speaker 1: of all this stuff. We just talked about what combined
Speaker 1: drill is the most meaningful for an offensive lineman and
Speaker 1: who did the best at that drill in your opinion?
Speaker 1: I you know, you could say a few I pay
Speaker 1: attention to the ten yards split. Yeah, you know, no
Speaker 1: offensive lineman is gonna run. I mean sometimes you see
Speaker 1: offensive lineman pool and you know, but we're not gonna
Speaker 1: see them forty yards down the field. So five yard
Speaker 1: dashes are where they are. But how's that ten yard split?
Speaker 1: That helps? Positions where they come out of a stance,
Speaker 1: Positions where that initial get off really matters. So for
Speaker 1: defensive lineman offensive lineman, the ten yards split is important
Speaker 1: to me. Also, the three comb we mentioned that as
Speaker 1: sure it did because again the change of direction, ability
Speaker 1: to redirect their momentum on a dime, the three cone.
Speaker 1: If you're stiff, you're not getting out of the three
Speaker 1: cone alive. Yeah, just shooting down some some some times
Speaker 1: of various give me, give me a split the you
Speaker 1: like a ten yards split, you have a split in mind,
Speaker 1: you like on a Miller? Okay, Well, Colt Miller was
Speaker 1: was extraordinary. His was a one six seven. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that was the best one. Now if you go from
Speaker 1: a six seven just kind of popping down here and
Speaker 1: apologize here for kind of being this way. Uh. Corbett
Speaker 1: Corbett had a Austin Corbett had a one seven six,
Speaker 1: also one seven six Will Hernandez not the pil Orlando Brown,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah over two yeah, he was, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was at he was at two. He was at two.
Speaker 1: Uh young. Let's see who else had I mentioned Colton
Speaker 1: Miller one six seven, uh note Boom from Joe Joe
Speaker 1: note Boom from TCU had a one seven two number
Speaker 1: and at four nine had a four nine six forty
Speaker 1: though two for him as well, And then I mentioned
Speaker 1: h Brian O'Neill from pitt was a one seven oh
Speaker 1: on that so a couple ten years splits there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple of ten yards splits to kind of get
Speaker 1: you going there. So debt okay on that. Yeah, Eric
Speaker 1: got another one. Um, we talked about Orlando Brown a
Speaker 1: good bit right there, when we talked about Colton Miller.
Speaker 1: Any other surprises running back or offensive lineman where you
Speaker 1: really feel like you want to revisit their tape based
Speaker 1: on what you saw today. I don't think revisit. But
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised with Nick Chubb what he did.
Speaker 1: I don't think the forty was average, but thirty eight
Speaker 1: and a half on the vert he got up there,
Speaker 1: he looked. I thought he helped himself. He did a
Speaker 1: nice job, and in several areas he did better than
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle, who a lot of people believe is a
Speaker 1: better athlete his teammateage. Absolutely let me let me read
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb numbers. As Dane was talking. An official time
Speaker 1: of a four to five two is two hundred twenty
Speaker 1: seven pound, two hundred and twenty seven pounds. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be five to ten seven two twenty seven thirty two
Speaker 1: on the arm, nine and five eights hands forty time
Speaker 1: official four to five two twenty nine on the bench.
Speaker 1: Nice job, say Quon Barkley him and exactly thirty eight
Speaker 1: and a half on the vertical ten eight on that
Speaker 1: broad Jamody exclusion. Here's your three cone for you, seven
Speaker 1: point zero nine. That's a good number for him. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and his shuttle of four two five for a lot
Speaker 1: of skill positions, you'd like to see under seven, right
Speaker 1: for a bigger guy like that for Nick Chubb at
Speaker 1: seven oh nine, I'll take that. Yeah, absolutely that Those
Speaker 1: are Those were some of the some of the numbers
Speaker 1: that we had on him. Uh and uh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with you on on him. I was Hines the
Speaker 1: You told me he was a track Yeah, Hines from
Speaker 1: Niam Hines Nahem Hines from Yeah, from North Carolina State.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that he was a track athlete. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a big time hit hit. Him and his
Speaker 1: twin sister are actually big time track athletes. One of
Speaker 1: the reasons he wanted to go to NC State because
Speaker 1: they wanted him for track and football. He was the
Speaker 1: runner up in the state championships and the hundred meters
Speaker 1: and the three hundred meter hurdles in North Carolina. Comes
Speaker 1: out of high school, so this is a guy who
Speaker 1: understands how to come out of his stands and run
Speaker 1: a good time. So not surprising to see him get
Speaker 1: under four four. Oh, that's right. Four three eight was
Speaker 1: the official time on him, thirty five and a half
Speaker 1: on the vertical, nine to eleven on the broad. And
Speaker 1: now it's kind of funny because you get to the
Speaker 1: three cone, he's seven to one eight, so the number
Speaker 1: kind of goes up. There's a track and in four
Speaker 1: four three five in the twenty so all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the drills that Danton is looking for for the shiftiness
Speaker 1: park I remember when watching him on tape. He wasn't
Speaker 1: a plant start stop, change direction. He was hand the ball.
Speaker 1: He was a drift gat drift. You know. He was
Speaker 1: a guy that he's gonna when he goes around the corner,
Speaker 1: it's not going to be you know that stop on
Speaker 1: a dime, changed directions and go. It was more of
Speaker 1: a drift. Dalvin Cook was the same way last year
Speaker 1: right where her. He'll get there. It just is more
Speaker 1: of a drifter than a start stop, change direction, go.
Speaker 1: So that doesn't surprise me at all. Day a great
Speaker 1: time in the forty, but maybe the three cone and
Speaker 1: short shuttle don't necessarily match up. Yeah, absolutely right. There
Speaker 1: didn't get real quick, Dave. If I could say, we've
Speaker 1: talked a lot about John Kelly before from Tennessee. He
Speaker 1: did not run a forty. He did do the bench.
Speaker 1: He got fifteen thirty five on the vertical ten foot broad,
Speaker 1: seven one three in the three cone, and four five
Speaker 1: one in the short shuttle. I might might have not
Speaker 1: known how to do the drill correctly there with that
Speaker 1: kind of time, but maybe it's maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: about some questions about the lateral agility. Well, I thought
Speaker 1: I thought he did well catching the ball though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you did, I did, Yeah, absolutely, I thought he did
Speaker 1: a nice job there. One guy who I thought maybe
Speaker 1: disappointed a little bit, Mark Walton. Yeah, I expected better
Speaker 1: numbers from him. Yea, Ammy, you have his numbers there.
Speaker 1: I do the official Yeah, the official time is a
Speaker 1: four six zero. Yeah. People are gonna have to go
Speaker 1: to Coral Gables and get him a little faster, and
Speaker 1: I think they will. Eighteen on the bench, thirty one
Speaker 1: one and a half on the vertical, nine ten on
Speaker 1: the broad, and didn't have anything else in the three cone.
Speaker 1: You watch his tape, he's got juice in those last
Speaker 1: That's what one of the lines I said. He's got
Speaker 1: some juice his lower body. I mean he can make
Speaker 1: those quick cuts that it's almost what he does best
Speaker 1: on the film. So that was surprising to see those
Speaker 1: little numbers. Uh yeah, well see what the pro day is,
Speaker 1: right if they're alarmingly different. Yeah, maybe he tweaked something
Speaker 1: here or something's going on. But there's another there's another guy.
Speaker 1: The tape was better than the workout number. Yeah, go ahead, Dave,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, you're good. Opposite well, opposite of that.
Speaker 1: Melvin was surprised by Rashad Penny's four four six and
Speaker 1: he wants to know because he looked that fast on
Speaker 1: tape and I kind of agree with him, like I
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting him to run And what was say tape
Speaker 1: we were watching the one time he hit it on
Speaker 1: a run San Diego Stake was played some army backed
Speaker 1: up maybe ar Yeah, he had a big but he
Speaker 1: had he had a couple of a couple of games
Speaker 1: where he exploded. Yeah, I mean like it was like
Speaker 1: he took the ball and then the next thing, it's
Speaker 1: ninety some yards going down the field. He led the
Speaker 1: FBS this year in Russia's fifteen yards or more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thirty five of them. So I to me, I think
Speaker 1: the tape did show not a burner, but a guy
Speaker 1: that can sustain a speed deep and we saw it
Speaker 1: in the Senior Bowl and the game he had that
Speaker 1: catch for a touchdown right over the top. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna catch it right, So right for getting under
Speaker 1: a four or five zoo for Penny is a great
Speaker 1: time and not a big surprise for me. I think
Speaker 1: you saw on a kickoff returns as well. He has
Speaker 1: the speed that not only the initial speed, but he
Speaker 1: can sustain it down the field. Kind Of some funny
Speaker 1: numbers for him if you think about it as well. Uh,
Speaker 1: he was able to vertical chup was thirty two and
Speaker 1: a half, but his broad chup was ten feet. Kind
Speaker 1: Of doesn't correlate very well there though. Maybe the explosiveness
Speaker 1: for the vert for the broad but not so much
Speaker 1: for the vertical stuff. Got a fun question from Brett
Speaker 1: who wants to know which prospect has impressed you the
Speaker 1: most with his swagger in these interviews. It's a good question.
Speaker 1: I know you a few options you can go with here.
Speaker 1: You I think you enjoyed uh Lamar Jackson to day,
Speaker 1: I did guy that he I'm a fan of his,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna be that guy confidence.
Speaker 1: You know, he he the way he plays on the field,
Speaker 1: the way he conducts himself off the field, it's the same.
Speaker 1: You know, bright lights don't scare him. Um. I think
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley belongs in that discussion. You know, a guy
Speaker 1: that is. He even said it today when he's at
Speaker 1: the podium. He's like, I want to be the humble guy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, whoever drafts me, I'm starting. You know he did.
Speaker 1: He went out there and he put it out that
Speaker 1: he looked like he, uh is a very confident person.
Speaker 1: He a little bit of that swagger. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of these wide receivers. It's natural. Baker Mayfield naturally, Baker, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had naturally. But Josh Allen came out and said,
Speaker 1: I'm the best quarterback in this place. Yeah, Baker Mayfield said.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, Baker, Baker said, if anybody
Speaker 1: can fix the Browns, it's me. Yeah. I love that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think John Dorsey'll love it too. Yeah. And you
Speaker 1: know what, Dane, you talked about that pre combine Once again,
Speaker 1: Patton on the back for this because you said though
Speaker 1: that Baker Mayfield is gonna win the interviews. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna win the look me in the eye and
Speaker 1: have confidence, and you're gonna believe everything he's saying. There's
Speaker 1: some guys you will try and rattle. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think you can rattle Baker Mayfield in an interview. And
Speaker 1: that's why if I'm setting up these quarterback workouts, I
Speaker 1: want Baker to come in first, and then I want
Speaker 1: everyone else to follow him, just to see if he
Speaker 1: can you know, because I know what I feel good
Speaker 1: about what Baker is gonna do in the interview. And
Speaker 1: then after him, I want Rosen, I want Darnold, I
Speaker 1: want Alan, I want Lamar Jackson, just to see if
Speaker 1: they can match the energy that he brings to the room.
Speaker 1: Rank them in the way they're gonna interview. If you,
Speaker 1: if you had to guess, if you had to put
Speaker 1: you both put on your general manager's hats. You're sitting
Speaker 1: down across from the five best, best best to the worst.
Speaker 1: Interview again, and this is not trying to slam the kids.
Speaker 1: Interview interview, the interview. You're gonna sit down and there
Speaker 1: and you're they have to convince you to draft him.
Speaker 1: Rank them one to five Baker one, Jackson two, Darnold three,
Speaker 1: Alan four, Rosen five. I think it's it's tough because
Speaker 1: it depends on what you're looking for out of an interview.
Speaker 1: Because I think Rosen is gonna come off very smart. Smart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like when you put him on the X and the
Speaker 1: XO like board, he's gonna tell you exactly what I
Speaker 1: mean he's when you ask him a question, he's very
Speaker 1: calculated with his answer, Like he you can tell you
Speaker 1: know the wheels turn in, and he's gonna give you
Speaker 1: a very thoughtful answer. So depending on what you're looking
Speaker 1: for it, you know, the answer could change. But I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily disagree with the way Dave laid it out
Speaker 1: for you. I think that's probably pretty close the way
Speaker 1: i'd have it. You think that I kind of think
Speaker 1: that that maybe that I don't know. I think Rosen
Speaker 1: might be better than I like what you're saying. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the funny. But I agree about the smart part, right,
Speaker 1: I kind of because I'm not a really smart guy,
Speaker 1: I would gravitate towards the guy that's kind of just
Speaker 1: hey man, hey, just you know, grabb hi by the neck,
Speaker 1: Come with me, Come with me, we're gonna win. Give
Speaker 1: me that then I would imagine, you know how, probably
Speaker 1: not all thirty two teams are going to interview those guys, right,
Speaker 1: It's probably more like twenty. Now we did we interview
Speaker 1: Michael Vick without a first round picker one time. Oh
Speaker 1: I've heard that. Sorry, that's a good story. Yeah, twenty
Speaker 1: different gms are gonna have twenty different opinions because Rosen's
Speaker 1: really gonna resonate with somebody and Somebody's gonna think Rosen's
Speaker 1: a total s ob Oh yeah, and same thing with
Speaker 1: Baker and anybody else. So I just want to remind
Speaker 1: everybody out there, if he were following along a periscope
Speaker 1: with us, fire us a question. Dave's got the Twitter
Speaker 1: on the twenty going here, But I want to give
Speaker 1: you guys on periscope for being with us a little
Speaker 1: a little love as well. I want to recognize, you know,
Speaker 1: you guys out there for doing that. So one thing
Speaker 1: I did want to touch on Ronald Jones USC. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are looking at the forty
Speaker 1: yard dashtime seeing a four to six six, Right, you
Speaker 1: might as well just cancel that out. Yeah, Ronald Jones
Speaker 1: did not run a forty yard day. He was hurt,
Speaker 1: he's got a hammy. Um, he's gonna do everything at
Speaker 1: the pro to USC Pro Day at the end of March.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he's one hundred percent by then. But just for
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, Ronald Jones did not work out
Speaker 1: today and so he shouldn't be treated as such. I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about his forty Um, but hopefully he is
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the Pro Day where he can
Speaker 1: do a full workout, I guess. I mean, you know, compete.
Speaker 1: Brian always says that, and I admire his willingness to
Speaker 1: cut it out, but that's not something you should gut out.
Speaker 1: He came into today with a little bit of a
Speaker 1: tender hammy, and let your hamstring. Like you're running back,
Speaker 1: you have to run, Yeah, and your hamstring is pretty
Speaker 1: crucial to that. Let that thing. He'll up bud right, Um,
Speaker 1: all right, I got two that I really like. For well,
Speaker 1: as long as you're talking about quarterbacks, let's not lose
Speaker 1: ourselves in the weeds here. But I just Daryl cracked
Speaker 1: me up because he goes, why don't you guys like
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. That's that's basically the essence of it, you know,
Speaker 1: I like Josh Allen. I don't know. I wasn't under
Speaker 1: the impression y'all really disliked him. I know I have
Speaker 1: said before, we don't like I don't think either of
Speaker 1: us like him as a number one pick. No, but
Speaker 1: there's a certain point in this draft, probably somewhere in
Speaker 1: the top fifty, where I would take a chance on him,
Speaker 1: a guy who I've said it before, he's scouting Catnet.
Speaker 1: The physical traits are off the charts, but he's just
Speaker 1: very undeveloped in certain areas that it takes to play
Speaker 1: the position at a high level. And when you're drafting
Speaker 1: a player in high especially in the first round, you
Speaker 1: better understand what you're getting. And this is a player
Speaker 1: that you want to sit for at least a year,
Speaker 1: if not two years, before you bring him up to speed.
Speaker 1: We feel comfortable throwing him out there on the field,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be interesting where he goes. I think
Speaker 1: somewhere in the top fifteen someone's gonna take a chance
Speaker 1: on him. Arizona at fifteen, maybe earlier than that. I
Speaker 1: just don't see a player that I'd be willing to
Speaker 1: gamble with in the top ten. Jerome, and this is
Speaker 1: gonna be off o our periscope. Jerome wants to know
Speaker 1: what you guys think about the possibility of both Scarborough
Speaker 1: being a Dallas cowboy. He had a heck of a
Speaker 1: day to day. That's how I feel. I mean, I
Speaker 1: was hearing from some trusted guys that watched the workout,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we're in the They caught the
Speaker 1: ball exceptionally well today. He did a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: exceptional today. Yeah, what like an eleven foot broad or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was he had the best brought him on the
Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, here's a guy six one three two,
Speaker 1: twenty eight thirty three and a half, ten on the hand,
Speaker 1: the time of four to five, two forty on the
Speaker 1: vertical jump, ten nine on the broad, four three four
Speaker 1: on your twenty shuttle. And I'll throw this out there.
Speaker 1: What's what's the biggest knock that you typically give an
Speaker 1: Alabama player they're banged up, And take a look at
Speaker 1: mister Brugler's chart here, two hundred and sixty seven career carries.
Speaker 1: He's never had more than one hundred and twenty five carries.
Speaker 1: So he's fresh as an alb as fresh as an
Speaker 1: Alabama running back could be. Expected to be the counterpoint
Speaker 1: to that is here we go, Why did you only
Speaker 1: have one hundred twenty five carries? And you know Harris?
Speaker 1: Did Harris have something to do with that? You think
Speaker 1: he was always banged up? But Boscar was also banged
Speaker 1: up a lot in college. And that's my biggest worry
Speaker 1: about him. Actually, it's the durability. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's been able to be healthy in My weakness is
Speaker 1: on him. I've got let's see, they're six lines. Three
Speaker 1: of the six are all injury related? Is that because
Speaker 1: of the way he runs? Yeah, he's high cut and
Speaker 1: so he is. I don't see. I don't when I
Speaker 1: look at bow Scarborough, I don't see a running back.
Speaker 1: I see an athlete. I see a guy that you
Speaker 1: don't want to treat as a traditional running back. You
Speaker 1: want to give him the ball absolutely on some handoffs,
Speaker 1: but you want to use him, uh you know on
Speaker 1: stretch players. Do you want to give him a runway
Speaker 1: where he can unwind those legs and get going? Is
Speaker 1: he similar to what David? Do you think he'd be
Speaker 1: similar to Rod Smith? Yeah? Maybe too similar? Maybe you
Speaker 1: want a different back. That's what you can talk about
Speaker 1: Walton and Kelly. Keep in mind those other guys. I
Speaker 1: made this point yesterday. Like Rod, I like Rod Smith alive.
Speaker 1: He's only under contract for one more year. It's not
Speaker 1: like I mean, I don't know that you can just
Speaker 1: assume he's a long term part of the Cowboys vision.
Speaker 1: My final line on Scarborough in my report, Scarborough is
Speaker 1: at his best on counters and off tackle runs where
Speaker 1: the cuts are set up for him. So he projects
Speaker 1: as a hybrid complimentary back in the NFL who should
Speaker 1: also be flexed as a receiver. So I think he
Speaker 1: is more of an athlete on a team, and at
Speaker 1: some point mid rounds, fourth, fifth round, I think that's
Speaker 1: where his value is. A guy that shouldn't be just
Speaker 1: a traditional running back, but you view him as an
Speaker 1: athlete Corey wants so again, this is another question coming
Speaker 1: off our periscope stuff. Corey wants to know about about
Speaker 1: um Malik Jefferson as possibility as a third round player
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Is that more realistic for him? You know? Line,
Speaker 1: team hunting. Line and speaking by the way, team hunting, David,
Speaker 1: We've in Dane to figure it out. Cowboys are hunting receivers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they are I don't mean to go away from Jefferson here,
Speaker 1: but speaking of hunting a position, they're talking to everyone.
Speaker 1: They're talking to a lot of receivers, not all, not
Speaker 1: all formal fifteen minutes, sit down, right, but they're they're
Speaker 1: they're hunting some receivers more than dj Ley. They're hunting
Speaker 1: some guys. So but go but talk about let's talk
Speaker 1: about Jefferson a little bit as a possible I did
Speaker 1: Austin radio this morning. Kind of talking about him is
Speaker 1: a little bit of a guesser, that kind of a
Speaker 1: thing like that, the way he plays. He he will
Speaker 1: not be working out until Sunday, but he did weigh
Speaker 1: in today six two and a quarter two undred thirty
Speaker 1: six pounds, thirty two inch arms, nine and five eighths hands.
Speaker 1: Good numbers for him, right, um he I expect him
Speaker 1: to run really well, and personally, I would be surprised
Speaker 1: if he's still on the board at eighty one. I
Speaker 1: think the athleticism that he shows is gonna get him
Speaker 1: drafted somewhere in round two. I think he might not
Speaker 1: even be an option on fifty. He could come off
Speaker 1: the board of the early portion of a round two
Speaker 1: because he's a very good athlete. Yeah, but tell what though?
Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, like I said, I was
Speaker 1: on radio with Austin guys this morning, and and when
Speaker 1: I brought up the word guesser, both of the guys
Speaker 1: looked at me like, mmmm, you know, but that's but
Speaker 1: to think about it. But if you're a guesser though,
Speaker 1: you know, in this league, ball cares get by you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, if you're guess you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to have the ability to get Roquan Smith kuld guess
Speaker 1: and get back in on the play. Yeah, many people
Speaker 1: can do that. You know, Roquan Smith must be a
Speaker 1: really good guesser because he doesn't choose the wrong gap
Speaker 1: very often and he's in POSI just talking about athletic abilities. Ship,
Speaker 1: but you're right about Jefferson, Dave. You got any more
Speaker 1: questions over there? Yeah? I said, I got one more
Speaker 1: that I really like from Ken, because hey, you talk
Speaker 1: about um, maybe not swagger, but just a really good interview.
Speaker 1: This is kind of the forgotten guy. We never talk
Speaker 1: about this guy. Yeah, Courtland Sutton. Ken wants to know
Speaker 1: about Courtland Sutton at fifty just and just in general,
Speaker 1: I would take him a fifty why aren't Why aren't
Speaker 1: we talking about this guy because of my phobia? And
Speaker 1: I apologize, I apologize. No, no, no, he's a better
Speaker 1: player than I'm I'm and I do not ever want
Speaker 1: to take anybody. I don't want to take anybody down
Speaker 1: that path. No, he's a better player. He is a
Speaker 1: better player than I'm giving him credit for. He is
Speaker 1: a much better player than I'm giving him credit for.
Speaker 1: And I'm just the route running though. That's that's the thing.
Speaker 1: That's the thing is a big question with him is
Speaker 1: that when you watch one tape the offense that he
Speaker 1: ran at SMU and the offense will be asked to
Speaker 1: run the NFL. There's a mild gap a huge yeah,
Speaker 1: And so he has a lot to learn. He has to,
Speaker 1: but I think he has He's one of the few
Speaker 1: receivers in this in this draft where you see number
Speaker 1: one traits, you see the possibility that he could grow
Speaker 1: into a future number one receiver in this draft. Uh,
Speaker 1: you just don't see it right now. Calvin Ridley I
Speaker 1: think could be a high end two DJ Moore. I
Speaker 1: love he's a second wide receiver. I love him. I
Speaker 1: think he could be a dynamic number two wide receiver
Speaker 1: Cortland Sutton can be a number one. I see a
Speaker 1: guy that can be an Alshan Jeffrey. He just has
Speaker 1: a way to get there. But he did really well
Speaker 1: the podium today. I thought he was he was, like
Speaker 1: I said, I didn't. I wouldn't use the word swagger,
Speaker 1: but he was very gregarious, outgoing, gave good answers, just
Speaker 1: seemed like a really friendly dude. Yeah, did you did
Speaker 1: the numbers on him? Six O three three two eighteen
Speaker 1: thirty two and three eighths arms, ninety three quarters hands
Speaker 1: eighteen times with the weights. It's good for his length, Dan,
Speaker 1: you love this game? What what would you guess he's
Speaker 1: gonna run? That's the big question. Is it a four
Speaker 1: to five eight four five two? That's what I want
Speaker 1: to know. Is he closer to the four five eight
Speaker 1: or closer to the four or five two? That's a
Speaker 1: four five two guy? That big right, He's a power
Speaker 1: forward out there and nice. Remember this is a guy
Speaker 1: who's recruited SMU as a safety, so you know he's
Speaker 1: young and wide receiver years where he's still adapting, still
Speaker 1: getting better in teams scounced, they need to figure out
Speaker 1: him as a wide receiver. Where is he on that timeline?
Speaker 1: Is he closer to the infancy or is he closer
Speaker 1: to you know, where you know his ceiling as a
Speaker 1: wide receiver? How much better can he get? We know
Speaker 1: he's raw. That doesn't mean that a player's automatically automatically
Speaker 1: gonna get better at that craft. Well, I mean Laquon
Speaker 1: tread was a perfect example of that. I bring him up.
Speaker 1: We'll see for Courtland Sutton big day tomorrow on the field,
Speaker 1: what he does could be the difference between going early
Speaker 1: in the second round or maybe sneaking into the first.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, I'd have lost money today
Speaker 1: if you if you said, Brian put money on what
Speaker 1: wide receiver would have twenty two reps on the bench.
Speaker 1: Top senior wide receiver in this draft, not Anthony Miller.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been on Anthony Miller. No, And which
Speaker 1: a note on him. He were talking about the right
Speaker 1: foot injury. He said today that yeah, you's not gonna
Speaker 1: do any running and they're not gonna do anything here.
Speaker 1: But he was recently cleared, uh to be a full go.
Speaker 1: He's been just started sprinting. He's just not you know,
Speaker 1: he hasn't been preparing for the combine the last month
Speaker 1: like most of these guys. So he's gonna wait to
Speaker 1: the Memphis Pro Day. But great to hear he's been
Speaker 1: fully cleared. The foot's good to go. He is the
Speaker 1: top senior wide receiver in this class. I've been adamant
Speaker 1: about that too, and I'm gonna stick to it. Hopefully
Speaker 1: he doesn't let me down. He didn't today with twenty
Speaker 1: two on the beat. As long as we're doing those,
Speaker 1: those are the two really like when you get into
Speaker 1: the conversation about the upper echelon of wide receivers, we
Speaker 1: probably haven't been paying enough attention to Courtland Sutton and
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller, So you know, yeah I have. I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I'm glad Dave's come around a little bit on Dante
Speaker 1: Pettis though. Yeah. I like his hair. You see his
Speaker 1: hair today. Yeah, he's got some purpose. Oh yeah, jeez,
Speaker 1: I could use some of that the husky purple yeah,
Speaker 1: oh wow. So but no, Anthony Millencourt on setting there
Speaker 1: my number four, number five receivers in my ranking. So
Speaker 1: both are number their second round grades. We'll see if
Speaker 1: something anything changed. The more draft nugget who was Tray
Speaker 1: Quinn's only visit lined up visiting the only surprising thing
Speaker 1: I've ever heard the Patriots. It's only his only official interview,
Speaker 1: Trey Quinn smuy catch the fact that we couldn't get
Speaker 1: that guy in the ball. I mean, my god, he's
Speaker 1: uh to me, he's a Jervis Landry clone. So I
Speaker 1: think he's a good player. How about Saint Brown? Did
Speaker 1: he help himself with a little bit with twenty reps too?
Speaker 1: Did you kind of expect that from how I was
Speaker 1: eager to see because you know his dad being former
Speaker 1: mister Olympia Olympia, Yeah, bodybuilder. Uh you know, they started
Speaker 1: him off with the weights at a young age, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't really have that build of a of a
Speaker 1: bodybuilder or anything. So eager to see what he did,
Speaker 1: and he didn't disappoint. Yeah, he's actually he says six
Speaker 1: zero four six, but two hundred and ten pounds or
Speaker 1: two were team, which is it's about ten pounds more
Speaker 1: than we expected because he's leaner. He thought maybe two
Speaker 1: or five, but two fifteen and I think that number
Speaker 1: will only go north And let's just run let's run
Speaker 1: this down real quick. In detail, Calvin Ridley meeting with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Yeah. DJ Moore meeting with the Cowboys. Christian
Speaker 1: Kirk had an informal chat with the Cowboys. DJ Chark
Speaker 1: had a chat with Sanjay lal Um, who am I forgetting?
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton and Trey Quinn are both local Dallas guys,
Speaker 1: so you would imagine that they'll actually Dallas day guys.
Speaker 1: They will very likely have their chance with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: staff at some point. All right, David, let me, I
Speaker 1: don't know about Pettish Equinemia. Saint Brown had a meeting
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys as well. Let me let me let
Speaker 1: me focus a little bit on your side now, David.
Speaker 1: The Dallas cowboy hat that you wear, do you're reading
Speaker 1: into something maybe with what's going on with Dez Bryant
Speaker 1: now that they're having meetings with these guys, or are
Speaker 1: they not satisfied with the current receivers. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: like I said on Twitter earlier today, you can't read
Speaker 1: too much into it because first you get sixty formal interviews, right,
Speaker 1: and you can talk to as many people informally as
Speaker 1: you want. So scouting departments are supposed to do their
Speaker 1: due diligence. That's what you do. You talk to these guys,
Speaker 1: you get to know them. You kind of try to
Speaker 1: draw a tighter circle around who you want to invite
Speaker 1: on your thirty visits. So I can't sit here and say, like, well,
Speaker 1: this definitely means they're gonna do something with their receivers.
Speaker 1: But clearly it's something they're interested in. Clearly they're trying
Speaker 1: to do as much homework as you can. And I
Speaker 1: can't help but think back to two years ago. They
Speaker 1: interviewed every single quarterback at the Combine. They talk to
Speaker 1: all of them, and so clearly that meant something. Right,
Speaker 1: they're hunting one. And I think you're absolutely nuts if
Speaker 1: you don't think that they're taking a hard look at
Speaker 1: these guys for a good reason. I mean, if they
Speaker 1: don't draft a wide receiver in this draft, I'll be
Speaker 1: very surprised. All Right, we're gonna take our final break
Speaker 1: and when we come back, we're gonna preview what we're
Speaker 1: gonna see tomorrow. We've got the again quarterbacks, wide receivers,
Speaker 1: and maybe talk a little bit tight end. So stay tuned.
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Speaker 1: here at the twenty eighteen NFL combine. We got a
Speaker 1: few minutes left, and uh, I just want to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about what could we see tomorrow. But
Speaker 1: you had something in your mind, didn't you. I did.
Speaker 1: And you know we talked about the tight ends. They
Speaker 1: came through here today. One of your favorite players in
Speaker 1: this draft, Hayden Hurst. Hayton Hurst, my number two tight
Speaker 1: end behind the way Dallas Goddard who unfortunately Dallas Goddard
Speaker 1: won't be working out with a hamstring. Getting back to
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst, I have a question for you. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know you're a long time scout. You've been doing this
Speaker 1: a long time. I have been. Hayden Hurst is interesting
Speaker 1: case because you know we we You said older guy, right,
Speaker 1: He's an older guy because minor league baseball. Correct. He
Speaker 1: gave up minor league baseball after a few years. Not
Speaker 1: because he just wanted to do something else, He had to.
Speaker 1: He was forced to, right, because he developed the yips. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a player who couldn't throw anymore. He has
Speaker 1: not thrown a baseball since because he can't do it.
Speaker 1: Steve Steve, Steve Sachs disease. I believe in their baseball
Speaker 1: we see it. You know, every few years there seems
Speaker 1: to be someone. Hayden Nurse is one of those. Now,
Speaker 1: how do you incorporate that into your evaluation of him
Speaker 1: as a football player? He is a guy that met
Speaker 1: with a sports therapist over to a mental thing exactly now,
Speaker 1: he dealt He worked with sports therapist, he worked with
Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure it out, and they couldn't
Speaker 1: figure it out. What support am I drafting before football? Football?
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying, you know, I'm just making sure.
Speaker 1: I'm how does that work into your evaluation? Do you
Speaker 1: ignore it? Or do you know? I I think that
Speaker 1: I don't think it. I don't think it's a physical handicap. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's more mental. It's mental. And I and I but
Speaker 1: what I do I think because I didn't know that
Speaker 1: until you just said that thirty seconds ago. But again,
Speaker 1: I go back to that tape, and that's the handicap
Speaker 1: that we have that we do the best we can
Speaker 1: to figure out these mental questions and oh this guy
Speaker 1: you know this, that and the other. But I I
Speaker 1: don't let that bother me because I'm thinking and the
Speaker 1: tape is just you know, the way the athletic ability
Speaker 1: of the way he catches the football or the blocking
Speaker 1: that he does, you know, he makes plays down the field.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe you're thinking, is there something else that's
Speaker 1: going to trigger another thing where he starts dropping the ball?
Speaker 1: Well and the mentally does he have a is that
Speaker 1: going to affect or negative plays going to affect the
Speaker 1: way he mentally sees things or does things right that
Speaker 1: if some doctor, some guy with dr Period or lady
Speaker 1: can tell me that with certainty that hey, you're gonna
Speaker 1: potentially have some other problems with him mentally that would
Speaker 1: affect me, that absolutely affect me, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: use a pretty high pick if if all things being equal,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to use a pretty high pick to
Speaker 1: get this guy that And I don't want to go
Speaker 1: down that road and not be prepared that hypothetical. Just
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you can watch the tape and
Speaker 1: come to a lot of different conclusions mes aerienced or
Speaker 1: amateur as you want. But it's so important that these
Speaker 1: teams have access to these guys, you know, to get
Speaker 1: to know them, to meet them, to see what their
Speaker 1: makeup is, do medical checks, all that, Like, there's so
Speaker 1: much more that goes into it than pulling up you know,
Speaker 1: tape or highlights or whatever that you know, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: could drastically, you know, drastically change your opinion of a
Speaker 1: guy for reasons that have nothing to do with how
Speaker 1: well he plays. I have one drop in three years
Speaker 1: of South Carolina. See that's so. But I'm sure he
Speaker 1: probably didn't have it. He was a pitcher when he
Speaker 1: got drafted by the Pirates, and I'm sure he didn't
Speaker 1: have any problems throwing the baseball. No, And that's and
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I would worry. You told me
Speaker 1: there is a concern that he had to give up
Speaker 1: something he was very good at because all of a
Speaker 1: sudden mentally he couldn't handle it. But I again, I'm looking.
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling, Daan, that I hear that
Speaker 1: that you know, as a as a potential red flag.
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling there's gonna be some other
Speaker 1: bombshells at this thing. Oh yeah, the medical they're always
Speaker 1: I'm just so worried about major players. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: major when these medicals hid and these doctors, they do
Speaker 1: a tremendous job doctors and trainers. There's some bombshell that's
Speaker 1: gonna drop in here. It's so depressing, it's so it
Speaker 1: is gonna be. It's it's because usually it's a player
Speaker 1: that you cove it, that you like. And again, folks,
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of just saying from my experience, I
Speaker 1: know Dane's experience, and Dave's knew the old combine scene,
Speaker 1: but we something is gonna happen here. It's just I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm preparing myself. It's probably not gonna happen here.
Speaker 1: It's gonna come out in like two weeks, you know,
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna be a Dane's gonna come into our
Speaker 1: office on March seventeenth and that's a Saturday, but nineteenth
Speaker 1: and be like, I think you know that Saint Patrick's day. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be like, oh, did you hear about
Speaker 1: freaking you know whoever? He's got a he's got a bum,
Speaker 1: meta tarsl and his foot and we're just like, damn it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's back condition. That's how that goes back condition, kneue condition,
Speaker 1: heart conditions, something, you know, some something crazy that that
Speaker 1: to a first round player that yeah, you all of
Speaker 1: a sudden that scare you though, I mean, you do
Speaker 1: all this work and and and that's what I guess
Speaker 1: that's might as we kind of wrap things up here,
Speaker 1: that that that scares me that because these doctors are
Speaker 1: now they're full blown on this medical stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: and and I'm just ready for that. Okay, do you
Speaker 1: just rick my dream on that guy? It doesn't it
Speaker 1: doesn't scare me. Like you, that's your you take things personally,
Speaker 1: I do you like you take it as like I
Speaker 1: want those guys I was cheering from around to run
Speaker 1: faster or one night to day. Yeah, he was to
Speaker 1: startup run run run. We need to do we need
Speaker 1: to do a thing where like fans can bid on
Speaker 1: just it's not even like you don't get to go
Speaker 1: in the stadium. You just get to watch the drills
Speaker 1: with Brian on TV because it's it's amazing. You're just like,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, get come pick those feet up.
Speaker 1: Which cheer for it's like if they're gonna work out
Speaker 1: a cheer for him. But you but you take you know,
Speaker 1: when you find out one of these guys is hurt,
Speaker 1: it's like somebody you know, slapped your kid or something
Speaker 1: like that. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we've got a couple of minutes. Like I said, tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we've we've kind of talked about these wide receivers. We
Speaker 1: did a little stand up Dane and and I Rob
Speaker 1: Phillips did a little a little preview. Can't Garrison put
Speaker 1: that together? Sure that's up on the site that you
Speaker 1: can kind of check that out. But uh, one or
Speaker 1: two guys, maybe maybe maybe a down the line guy,
Speaker 1: maybe somebody were not all thinking about that. Hey, I'd
Speaker 1: like to see this guy do something. I know, I
Speaker 1: said Lamar Jackson. I'd like to see him throw the football.
Speaker 1: But is there somebody else you're kind of looking at
Speaker 1: names wise that maybe, Hey, I'd like to see this
Speaker 1: guy have a good day to I want to see
Speaker 1: Dj Moore run. I know he's not a down the
Speaker 1: line guy. He told me today he's gonna run under
Speaker 1: a four or five that that's his goal. And so
Speaker 1: if he's able to run in the four fours, he
Speaker 1: only cements his status as my number two receiver. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, down the line guys. See Kiki Kuti, I
Speaker 1: got it from Texas. Texas have a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: people in love it. Just cheered, Yeah, yet your guns
Speaker 1: up there. He's an undersized slot receiver who if he
Speaker 1: runs well here, all of a sudden more people will
Speaker 1: be talking about him. I want to see him do
Speaker 1: it because I think he has that ability. He's a
Speaker 1: good athlete, Dave. This is even more obvious than that.
Speaker 1: But it's just gonna be fun to see these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: throw yeah. Yeah, you know, I'm with you on that,
Speaker 1: and that's I'm I'm I know. I'll bet you any
Speaker 1: amount of money you want. The Cowboys aren't going to
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in the first two rounds of this draft,
Speaker 1: but these quarterbacks are going to determine so much about
Speaker 1: that first round and it could be the difference between
Speaker 1: whether you get a guy you're really excited about at
Speaker 1: nineteen or not. And plus they're just they're all they're
Speaker 1: all fascinating in their own way. Like, this is the
Speaker 1: most interesting quarterback class that we've covered in the six
Speaker 1: years I've endured this. I mean, like Goff and Wentz
Speaker 1: and Lynch were pretty good, and that was fun because
Speaker 1: the Cowboys might have been in the market for one
Speaker 1: of them. Um, But but this is gonna be something
Speaker 1: special because this is at least four, if not five
Speaker 1: first round quarterbacks that I believe are all gonna throw,
Speaker 1: or at least most of them are. And Lamar Jackson's
Speaker 1: only throwing. He's not doing the forty years good for
Speaker 1: him anything. I mean, we don't need to see him
Speaker 1: work out. It just would have been fun to see
Speaker 1: him blaze a four three or whatever it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: So with these wide receivers real quick. You know, we
Speaker 1: talked about the log jam and breaking them up, you know,
Speaker 1: will tomorrow help us with the pecking order and help
Speaker 1: us divide somebody's got, you know, the difference between a
Speaker 1: Dion Kane and a Semi Cobbs, or a difference between
Speaker 1: a Marcel Eateman and a Trap Smith. Hopefully the combine
Speaker 1: tomorrow and what they do on the fuel will help
Speaker 1: us separate those real real quick. Okay, I know we're
Speaker 1: running out of time, but we sat there just at
Speaker 1: the top of the show and talked about you know,
Speaker 1: none of the line workouts really drastically changed our opinion.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's not going to be true tomorrow,
Speaker 1: because like with this log jam, I mean, what if
Speaker 1: what if what if Courtland Sutton runs out there and
Speaker 1: runs a four four nine, you know, like faster than
Speaker 1: anybody really thought. Or you know somebody runs days going
Speaker 1: first round? There you go? Or what if you know,
Speaker 1: what if our guy DJ Moore runs up four five?
Speaker 1: I'm drive you guys crazy. I had the same feeling
Speaker 1: about these tight ends. Sure, I had the same feeling
Speaker 1: about Mark Andrews, you know, and I know that, uh,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna see our our South Dakota State guy
Speaker 1: don't run. But what about some of the what about
Speaker 1: the sicky? Yeah? What about what about those guys? I
Speaker 1: want to see how how are you going to break
Speaker 1: these guys down? Hey, well, Ian Thomas, I mean some
Speaker 1: guys have expected to perform well, Ian Thomas, will Disley
Speaker 1: didn't do as well on the bench. Try to talk
Speaker 1: about how your guy Disley threw up fifteen on the
Speaker 1: fifty and that's not good for him. But I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. You watch the tapey blocks. But let's let's see.
Speaker 1: Let's see the separation though. Let's see, let's see if
Speaker 1: there is some separation up. Who is going to step
Speaker 1: up from this tight end class? And maybe the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't take one. But I'm interested to see what
Speaker 1: really what Mark Andrews runs. I really, really am. I've
Speaker 1: kind of thought, you know, at two at six five,
Speaker 1: two fifty six, I kind of had him as a
Speaker 1: four seven nine guy. Maybe he is a little bit
Speaker 1: better than that. I'd like to see that, Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: I think it's got I mean, everybody's so tightly packed
Speaker 1: together that good days and bad days are gonna mean
Speaker 1: a lot. I feel like when nobody can really come
Speaker 1: to a consensus about what this all looks, just like
Speaker 1: in the real world and the interview process and the
Speaker 1: good days and bad days. As always, boys, that's the
Speaker 1: fastest hour we do always. I'll tell you what. We
Speaker 1: can keep going and going, but we will. We'll do
Speaker 1: it tomorrow. Will we got a draft coming up, We'll
Speaker 1: talk about eighteen hours straight. Let's do it and we'll
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun doing that. Okay, Well, that
Speaker 1: does it. For the draft show tomorrow, same time, we'll
Speaker 1: be on four thirty Central time. Maybe we'll see how
Speaker 1: things all shake out. But if this will be our
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