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Speaker 1: Valley Ranch, Dallas Cowboys Selection and now your host Dame Brugler,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, it's day three

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Speaker 1: of the twenty eighteen NFL Combine. We welcome you to

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis excuse me, the Indiana Convention Center here in Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: As always, you've got the Draft show with myself, Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us Dame Brugler, David Hellman. Boys actually saw some

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Speaker 1: guys on field work today, try running backs, offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Uh what do we say yesterday I was gonna be

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Speaker 1: a Seaquon Barkley show. We did say that. It certainly

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Speaker 1: was two hundred and thirty three pounds what he was

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Speaker 1: able to do. Uh. I hope Cowboy fans are okay

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Speaker 1: with having another special back in the division because the

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Speaker 1: Giants at number two, it's gonna be tough for them

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Speaker 1: to pass up. Wan wanna bet Uh No, it's too

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Speaker 1: early for that. But you think of Dave Gettelman, he

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Speaker 1: drafted a running back top ten last year, and Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey when he was the GM in Carolina, he wishes

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Speaker 1: Barkley was there when he picked at Carolina. Oh sure,

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Speaker 1: well not no, no, he probably doesn't because he's no

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Speaker 1: longer in Carolina. No no no, no, no, I'm saying the

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Speaker 1: same type of that kind of back. Yeah sure, now

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Speaker 1: that he's in New York. Look, they want to hold

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Speaker 1: be tough for the Giants that pass on Barkley at

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Speaker 1: number two. Dave, you came away pressed with him as well.

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Speaker 1: How could you not? I mean, my god? He yeah,

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Speaker 1: then the workout is just as good as the tape.

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Speaker 1: Dane's been telling you for two weeks that that's this

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Speaker 1: I trust Dane. I listened to Dane, and I I

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Speaker 1: I know snow my experience though how many times have

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll change that about how the tape looks. How

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Speaker 1: much do you trust your tape now when some guys

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Speaker 1: don't have the types of workouts today? Yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: when the workout doesn't match the tape, where is your

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Speaker 1: But but did athletically did he do anything to kind

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman run forty yards? Yeah? Well it's one

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Win and Will Hernandez were both there, right, Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Win was the best guard there at the Senior Bowl. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: When they were wearing pads, we're in a helmet, they

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Speaker 1: as I love Will Hernandez, he's a first rump pick.

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Speaker 1: I tweeted this earlier. I think he confirmed he's a

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Speaker 1: Hernandez and Thedez and Hernandez is a trade back option. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's consistency. With Isaiah Winn, he is consistent,

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Speaker 1: about names. We just talked about Colton Miller, Right, Did

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Speaker 1: talk about Orlando Brown. I'll tell you one thing. Terrell

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Speaker 1: see that on tape. Throw another one out there, Austin Corbett. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: have to touch on Orlando Brown real quick. Sure, a

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Speaker 1: and he did not have to come here and be

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Speaker 1: lateral quickness. But against NFL rushers, it's a big difference

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Speaker 1: gonna be tough to stay on him? Okay? Does he

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Speaker 1: in a five six? I don't mean does that? Does

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Speaker 1: his workout drop him that much? You can't if you

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Speaker 1: if you like a player that much to put him

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Speaker 1: in a two three, you can't drop him that much

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Speaker 1: just based on a work he had that conversation off

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna touch him, and I'll be stubborn about

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Speaker 1: that because again, that tape means something to me. But

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Speaker 1: gonna touch him on your board. Not you wouldn't draft him, No, no, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: and then and then Brown, So he's tom he's more

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Speaker 1: as he goes to the next level again, Nate, sold

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Speaker 1: guys that I've historically ding because of lack of strength,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, what happens. They play ten

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Speaker 1: trying to compare. I'm not trying to pair O'Neil, but

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Speaker 1: it's happened to me before and we both agree as

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Speaker 1: want to overcompensate with what he did today because we

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Speaker 1: If Colton Miller went in the top eighteen picks, make it, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: We both game a fourth round grade base on the tape.

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Speaker 1: and I get there. We're not moving them different. I'm

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Speaker 1: not moving But if someone had a second round grade

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Speaker 1: Every team needs offensive line depth. So these guys are

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Speaker 1: You promise, You can't promise, but I'd say there's a chance.

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Speaker 1: here at the twenty eighteen NFL Combine. Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: here with you along with Dame Burglar David Hellman. I

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Speaker 1: was just checking out the periscope numbers and stuff we have.

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Speaker 1: Once again, thank you folks. I know it's a Friday

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Speaker 1: hanging out with us here at the combine and talking

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Speaker 1: a little draft. I was going to try and do

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Speaker 1: a way of kind of answer answering a question. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll periscope, Dave, I'll if you get to Twitter on

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Speaker 1: the twenty yeah, I will. I will figure out a

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Speaker 1: and that maybe get a couple of questions here on

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Speaker 1: We'll try to do that as we go along. Yeah, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is we just talked a whole segment

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Speaker 1: about this, but Ralph wants a little more detail on

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Speaker 1: of all this stuff. We just talked about what combined

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Speaker 1: drill is the most meaningful for an offensive lineman and

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Speaker 1: who did the best at that drill in your opinion?

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Speaker 1: I you know, you could say a few I pay

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Speaker 1: attention to the ten yards split. Yeah, you know, no

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman is gonna run. I mean sometimes you see

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman pool and you know, but we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: see them forty yards down the field. So five yard

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Speaker 1: dashes are where they are. But how's that ten yard split?

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Speaker 1: That helps? Positions where they come out of a stance,

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Speaker 1: Positions where that initial get off really matters. So for

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman offensive lineman, the ten yards split is important

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Speaker 1: to me. Also, the three comb we mentioned that as

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Speaker 1: sure it did because again the change of direction, ability

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Speaker 1: to redirect their momentum on a dime, the three cone.

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Speaker 1: If you're stiff, you're not getting out of the three

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Speaker 1: cone alive. Yeah, just shooting down some some some times

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Speaker 1: of various give me, give me a split the you

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Speaker 1: like a ten yards split, you have a split in mind,

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Speaker 1: you like on a Miller? Okay, Well, Colt Miller was

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Speaker 1: was extraordinary. His was a one six seven. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that was the best one. Now if you go from

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Speaker 1: a six seven just kind of popping down here and

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Speaker 1: apologize here for kind of being this way. Uh. Corbett

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Speaker 1: Corbett had a Austin Corbett had a one seven six,

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Speaker 1: also one seven six Will Hernandez not the pil Orlando Brown,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah over two yeah, he was, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: was at he was at two. He was at two.

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Speaker 1: Uh young. Let's see who else had I mentioned Colton

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Speaker 1: Miller one six seven, uh note Boom from Joe Joe

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Speaker 1: note Boom from TCU had a one seven two number

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Speaker 1: and at four nine had a four nine six forty

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Speaker 1: though two for him as well, And then I mentioned

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Speaker 1: h Brian O'Neill from pitt was a one seven oh

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Speaker 1: on that so a couple ten years splits there, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a couple of ten yards splits to kind of get

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Speaker 1: you going there. So debt okay on that. Yeah, Eric

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Speaker 1: got another one. Um, we talked about Orlando Brown a

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Speaker 1: good bit right there, when we talked about Colton Miller.

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Speaker 1: Any other surprises running back or offensive lineman where you

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Speaker 1: really feel like you want to revisit their tape based

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Speaker 1: on what you saw today. I don't think revisit. But

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Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised with Nick Chubb what he did.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the forty was average, but thirty eight

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Speaker 1: and a half on the vert he got up there,

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Speaker 1: he looked. I thought he helped himself. He did a

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Speaker 1: nice job, and in several areas he did better than

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Speaker 1: Sony Michelle, who a lot of people believe is a

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Speaker 1: better athlete his teammateage. Absolutely let me let me read

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb numbers. As Dane was talking. An official time

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Speaker 1: of a four to five two is two hundred twenty

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Speaker 1: seven pound, two hundred and twenty seven pounds. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: be five to ten seven two twenty seven thirty two

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Speaker 1: on the arm, nine and five eights hands forty time

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Speaker 1: official four to five two twenty nine on the bench.

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Speaker 1: Nice job, say Quon Barkley him and exactly thirty eight

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Speaker 1: and a half on the vertical ten eight on that

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Speaker 1: broad Jamody exclusion. Here's your three cone for you, seven

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Speaker 1: point zero nine. That's a good number for him. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and his shuttle of four two five for a lot

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Speaker 1: of skill positions, you'd like to see under seven, right

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Speaker 1: for a bigger guy like that for Nick Chubb at

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Speaker 1: seven oh nine, I'll take that. Yeah, absolutely that Those

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Speaker 1: are Those were some of the some of the numbers

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Speaker 1: that we had on him. Uh and uh, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: agree with you on on him. I was Hines the

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Speaker 1: You told me he was a track Yeah, Hines from

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Speaker 1: Niam Hines Nahem Hines from Yeah, from North Carolina State.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that he was a track athlete. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was a big time hit hit. Him and his

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Speaker 1: twin sister are actually big time track athletes. One of

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Speaker 1: the reasons he wanted to go to NC State because

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Speaker 1: they wanted him for track and football. He was the

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Speaker 1: runner up in the state championships and the hundred meters

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Speaker 1: and the three hundred meter hurdles in North Carolina. Comes

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Speaker 1: out of high school, so this is a guy who

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Speaker 1: understands how to come out of his stands and run

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Speaker 1: a good time. So not surprising to see him get

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Speaker 1: under four four. Oh, that's right. Four three eight was

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Speaker 1: the official time on him, thirty five and a half

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Speaker 1: on the vertical, nine to eleven on the broad. And

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Speaker 1: now it's kind of funny because you get to the

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Speaker 1: three cone, he's seven to one eight, so the number

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Speaker 1: kind of goes up. There's a track and in four

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Speaker 1: four three five in the twenty so all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the drills that Danton is looking for for the shiftiness

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Speaker 1: park I remember when watching him on tape. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: a plant start stop, change direction. He was hand the ball.

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Speaker 1: He was a drift gat drift. You know. He was

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Speaker 1: a guy that he's gonna when he goes around the corner,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be you know that stop on

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Speaker 1: a dime, changed directions and go. It was more of

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Speaker 1: a drift. Dalvin Cook was the same way last year

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Speaker 1: right where her. He'll get there. It just is more

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Speaker 1: of a drifter than a start stop, change direction, go.

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Speaker 1: So that doesn't surprise me at all. Day a great

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Speaker 1: time in the forty, but maybe the three cone and

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Speaker 1: short shuttle don't necessarily match up. Yeah, absolutely right. There

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Speaker 1: didn't get real quick, Dave. If I could say, we've

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about John Kelly before from Tennessee. He

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Speaker 1: did not run a forty. He did do the bench.

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Speaker 1: He got fifteen thirty five on the vertical ten foot broad,

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Speaker 1: seven one three in the three cone, and four five

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Speaker 1: one in the short shuttle. I might might have not

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Speaker 1: known how to do the drill correctly there with that

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Speaker 1: kind of time, but maybe it's maybe a little bit

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Speaker 1: about some questions about the lateral agility. Well, I thought

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Speaker 1: I thought he did well catching the ball though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you did, I did, Yeah, absolutely, I thought he did

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Speaker 1: a nice job there. One guy who I thought maybe

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Speaker 1: disappointed a little bit, Mark Walton. Yeah, I expected better

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Speaker 1: numbers from him. Yea, Ammy, you have his numbers there.

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Speaker 1: I do the official Yeah, the official time is a

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Speaker 1: four six zero. Yeah. People are gonna have to go

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Speaker 1: to Coral Gables and get him a little faster, and

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Speaker 1: I think they will. Eighteen on the bench, thirty one

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Speaker 1: one and a half on the vertical, nine ten on

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Speaker 1: the broad, and didn't have anything else in the three cone.

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Speaker 1: You watch his tape, he's got juice in those last

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Speaker 1: That's what one of the lines I said. He's got

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Speaker 1: some juice his lower body. I mean he can make

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Speaker 1: those quick cuts that it's almost what he does best

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Speaker 1: on the film. So that was surprising to see those

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Speaker 1: little numbers. Uh yeah, well see what the pro day is,

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Speaker 1: right if they're alarmingly different. Yeah, maybe he tweaked something

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Speaker 1: here or something's going on. But there's another there's another guy.

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Speaker 1: The tape was better than the workout number. Yeah, go ahead, Dave,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, you're good. Opposite well, opposite of that.

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Speaker 1: Melvin was surprised by Rashad Penny's four four six and

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Speaker 1: he wants to know because he looked that fast on

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Speaker 1: tape and I kind of agree with him, like I

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Speaker 1: wasn't expecting him to run And what was say tape

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Speaker 1: we were watching the one time he hit it on

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Speaker 1: a run San Diego Stake was played some army backed

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Speaker 1: up maybe ar Yeah, he had a big but he

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Speaker 1: had he had a couple of a couple of games

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Speaker 1: where he exploded. Yeah, I mean like it was like

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Speaker 1: he took the ball and then the next thing, it's

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Speaker 1: ninety some yards going down the field. He led the

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Speaker 1: FBS this year in Russia's fifteen yards or more. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thirty five of them. So I to me, I think

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Speaker 1: the tape did show not a burner, but a guy

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Speaker 1: that can sustain a speed deep and we saw it

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Speaker 1: in the Senior Bowl and the game he had that

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Speaker 1: catch for a touchdown right over the top. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: wasn't gonna catch it right, So right for getting under

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Speaker 1: time and not a big surprise for me. I think

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Speaker 1: you saw on a kickoff returns as well. He has

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Speaker 1: the speed that not only the initial speed, but he

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Speaker 1: can sustain it down the field. Kind Of some funny

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Speaker 1: numbers for him if you think about it as well. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he was able to vertical chup was thirty two and

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Speaker 1: a half, but his broad chup was ten feet. Kind

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Speaker 1: Of doesn't correlate very well there though. Maybe the explosiveness

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Speaker 1: for the vert for the broad but not so much

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Speaker 1: for the vertical stuff. Got a fun question from Brett

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Speaker 1: who wants to know which prospect has impressed you the

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Speaker 1: most with his swagger in these interviews. It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I know you a few options you can go with here.

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Speaker 1: You I think you enjoyed uh Lamar Jackson to day,

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Speaker 1: I did guy that he I'm a fan of his,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna be that guy confidence.

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Speaker 1: You know, he he the way he plays on the field,

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Speaker 1: the way he conducts himself off the field, it's the same.

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Speaker 1: You know, bright lights don't scare him. Um. I think

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley belongs in that discussion. You know, a guy

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Speaker 1: that is. He even said it today when he's at

641
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: the podium. He's like, I want to be the humble guy.

642
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, whoever drafts me, I'm starting. You know he did.

643
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: He went out there and he put it out that

644
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: he looked like he, uh is a very confident person.

645
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: He a little bit of that swagger. I think a

646
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: lot of these wide receivers. It's natural. Baker Mayfield naturally, Baker, Yeah,

647
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: he had naturally. But Josh Allen came out and said,

648
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm the best quarterback in this place. Yeah, Baker Mayfield said.

649
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, Baker, Baker said, if anybody

650
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: can fix the Browns, it's me. Yeah. I love that. Yeah.

651
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: I think John Dorsey'll love it too. Yeah. And you

652
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: know what, Dane, you talked about that pre combine Once again,

653
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: Patton on the back for this because you said though

654
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: that Baker Mayfield is gonna win the interviews. Oh yeah,

655
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna win the look me in the eye and

656
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: have confidence, and you're gonna believe everything he's saying. There's

657
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: some guys you will try and rattle. Yeah, I don't

658
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: think you can rattle Baker Mayfield in an interview. And

659
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: that's why if I'm setting up these quarterback workouts, I

660
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: want Baker to come in first, and then I want

661
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: everyone else to follow him, just to see if he

662
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: can you know, because I know what I feel good

663
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: about what Baker is gonna do in the interview. And

664
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Speaker 1: then after him, I want Rosen, I want Darnold, I

665
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: want Alan, I want Lamar Jackson, just to see if

666
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: they can match the energy that he brings to the room.

667
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: Rank them in the way they're gonna interview. If you,

668
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: if you had to guess, if you had to put

669
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: you both put on your general manager's hats. You're sitting

670
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: down across from the five best, best best to the worst.

671
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: Interview again, and this is not trying to slam the kids.

672
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: Interview interview, the interview. You're gonna sit down and there

673
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: and you're they have to convince you to draft him.

674
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: Rank them one to five Baker one, Jackson two, Darnold three,

675
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: Alan four, Rosen five. I think it's it's tough because

676
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: it depends on what you're looking for out of an interview.

677
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: Because I think Rosen is gonna come off very smart. Smart. Yeah,

678
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: like when you put him on the X and the

679
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: XO like board, he's gonna tell you exactly what I

680
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: mean he's when you ask him a question, he's very

681
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: calculated with his answer, Like he you can tell you

682
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: know the wheels turn in, and he's gonna give you

683
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: a very thoughtful answer. So depending on what you're looking

684
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: for it, you know, the answer could change. But I

685
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: don't necessarily disagree with the way Dave laid it out

686
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: for you. I think that's probably pretty close the way

687
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: i'd have it. You think that I kind of think

688
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: that that maybe that I don't know. I think Rosen

689
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: might be better than I like what you're saying. Well,

690
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: here's the funny. But I agree about the smart part, right,

691
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: I kind of because I'm not a really smart guy,

692
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: I would gravitate towards the guy that's kind of just

693
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: hey man, hey, just you know, grabb hi by the neck,

694
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: Come with me, Come with me, we're gonna win. Give

695
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: me that then I would imagine, you know how, probably

696
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: not all thirty two teams are going to interview those guys, right,

697
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: It's probably more like twenty. Now we did we interview

698
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: Michael Vick without a first round picker one time. Oh

699
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: I've heard that. Sorry, that's a good story. Yeah, twenty

700
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: different gms are gonna have twenty different opinions because Rosen's

701
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: really gonna resonate with somebody and Somebody's gonna think Rosen's

702
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: a total s ob Oh yeah, and same thing with

703
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: Baker and anybody else. So I just want to remind

704
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: everybody out there, if he were following along a periscope

705
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: with us, fire us a question. Dave's got the Twitter

706
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: on the twenty going here, But I want to give

707
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: you guys on periscope for being with us a little

708
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: a little love as well. I want to recognize, you know,

709
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: you guys out there for doing that. So one thing

710
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: I did want to touch on Ronald Jones USC. I

711
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are looking at the forty

712
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: yard dashtime seeing a four to six six, Right, you

713
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: might as well just cancel that out. Yeah, Ronald Jones

714
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: did not run a forty yard day. He was hurt,

715
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: he's got a hammy. Um, he's gonna do everything at

716
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: the pro to USC Pro Day at the end of March.

717
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: Hopefully he's one hundred percent by then. But just for

718
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, Ronald Jones did not work out

719
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: today and so he shouldn't be treated as such. I'm

720
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: not worried about his forty Um, but hopefully he is

721
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the Pro Day where he can

722
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: do a full workout, I guess. I mean, you know, compete.

723
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: Brian always says that, and I admire his willingness to

724
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: cut it out, but that's not something you should gut out.

725
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: He came into today with a little bit of a

726
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: tender hammy, and let your hamstring. Like you're running back,

727
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: you have to run, Yeah, and your hamstring is pretty

728
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: crucial to that. Let that thing. He'll up bud right, Um,

729
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: all right, I got two that I really like. For well,

730
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: as long as you're talking about quarterbacks, let's not lose

731
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: ourselves in the weeds here. But I just Daryl cracked

732
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: me up because he goes, why don't you guys like

733
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. That's that's basically the essence of it, you know,

734
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: I like Josh Allen. I don't know. I wasn't under

735
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: the impression y'all really disliked him. I know I have

736
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: said before, we don't like I don't think either of

737
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: us like him as a number one pick. No, but

738
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: there's a certain point in this draft, probably somewhere in

739
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: the top fifty, where I would take a chance on him,

740
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: a guy who I've said it before, he's scouting Catnet.

741
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: The physical traits are off the charts, but he's just

742
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: very undeveloped in certain areas that it takes to play

743
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: the position at a high level. And when you're drafting

744
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: a player in high especially in the first round, you

745
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: better understand what you're getting. And this is a player

746
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: that you want to sit for at least a year,

747
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: if not two years, before you bring him up to speed.

748
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: We feel comfortable throwing him out there on the field,

749
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be interesting where he goes. I think

750
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: somewhere in the top fifteen someone's gonna take a chance

751
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: on him. Arizona at fifteen, maybe earlier than that. I

752
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: just don't see a player that I'd be willing to

753
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: gamble with in the top ten. Jerome, and this is

754
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: gonna be off o our periscope. Jerome wants to know

755
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: what you guys think about the possibility of both Scarborough

756
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: being a Dallas cowboy. He had a heck of a

757
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: day to day. That's how I feel. I mean, I

758
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: was hearing from some trusted guys that watched the workout,

759
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we're in the They caught the

760
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: ball exceptionally well today. He did a lot of stuff

761
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: exceptional today. Yeah, what like an eleven foot broad or something. Yeah,

762
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: he was he had the best brought him on the

763
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, here's a guy six one three two,

764
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 1: twenty eight thirty three and a half, ten on the hand,

765
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: the time of four to five, two forty on the

766
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: vertical jump, ten nine on the broad, four three four

767
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: on your twenty shuttle. And I'll throw this out there.

768
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: What's what's the biggest knock that you typically give an

769
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: Alabama player they're banged up, And take a look at

770
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: mister Brugler's chart here, two hundred and sixty seven career carries.

771
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: He's never had more than one hundred and twenty five carries.

772
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: So he's fresh as an alb as fresh as an

773
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: Alabama running back could be. Expected to be the counterpoint

774
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: to that is here we go, Why did you only

775
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: have one hundred twenty five carries? And you know Harris?

776
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: Did Harris have something to do with that? You think

777
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: he was always banged up? But Boscar was also banged

778
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: up a lot in college. And that's my biggest worry

779
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: about him. Actually, it's the durability. I don't know if

780
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: he's been able to be healthy in My weakness is

781
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: on him. I've got let's see, they're six lines. Three

782
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: of the six are all injury related? Is that because

783
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: of the way he runs? Yeah, he's high cut and

784
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: so he is. I don't see. I don't when I

785
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: look at bow Scarborough, I don't see a running back.

786
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: I see an athlete. I see a guy that you

787
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: don't want to treat as a traditional running back. You

788
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: want to give him the ball absolutely on some handoffs,

789
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: but you want to use him, uh you know on

790
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: stretch players. Do you want to give him a runway

791
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: where he can unwind those legs and get going? Is

792
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: he similar to what David? Do you think he'd be

793
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: similar to Rod Smith? Yeah? Maybe too similar? Maybe you

794
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: want a different back. That's what you can talk about

795
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: Walton and Kelly. Keep in mind those other guys. I

796
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: made this point yesterday. Like Rod, I like Rod Smith alive.

797
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: He's only under contract for one more year. It's not

798
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: like I mean, I don't know that you can just

799
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: assume he's a long term part of the Cowboys vision.

800
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: My final line on Scarborough in my report, Scarborough is

801
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: at his best on counters and off tackle runs where

802
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: the cuts are set up for him. So he projects

803
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: as a hybrid complimentary back in the NFL who should

804
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: also be flexed as a receiver. So I think he

805
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: is more of an athlete on a team, and at

806
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: some point mid rounds, fourth, fifth round, I think that's

807
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: where his value is. A guy that shouldn't be just

808
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: a traditional running back, but you view him as an

809
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: athlete Corey wants so again, this is another question coming

810
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: off our periscope stuff. Corey wants to know about about

811
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: um Malik Jefferson as possibility as a third round player

812
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Is that more realistic for him? You know? Line,

813
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: team hunting. Line and speaking by the way, team hunting, David,

814
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: We've in Dane to figure it out. Cowboys are hunting receivers. Yeah,

815
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: they are I don't mean to go away from Jefferson here,

816
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: but speaking of hunting a position, they're talking to everyone.

817
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: They're talking to a lot of receivers, not all, not

818
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: all formal fifteen minutes, sit down, right, but they're they're

819
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 1: they're hunting some receivers more than dj Ley. They're hunting

820
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: some guys. So but go but talk about let's talk

821
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: about Jefferson a little bit as a possible I did

822
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: Austin radio this morning. Kind of talking about him is

823
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of a guesser, that kind of a

824
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: thing like that, the way he plays. He he will

825
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: not be working out until Sunday, but he did weigh

826
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: in today six two and a quarter two undred thirty

827
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 1: six pounds, thirty two inch arms, nine and five eighths hands.

828
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: Good numbers for him, right, um he I expect him

829
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: to run really well, and personally, I would be surprised

830
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: if he's still on the board at eighty one. I

831
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: think the athleticism that he shows is gonna get him

832
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: drafted somewhere in round two. I think he might not

833
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: even be an option on fifty. He could come off

834
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: the board of the early portion of a round two

835
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: because he's a very good athlete. Yeah, but tell what though?

836
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, like I said, I was

837
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: on radio with Austin guys this morning, and and when

838
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: I brought up the word guesser, both of the guys

839
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: looked at me like, mmmm, you know, but that's but

840
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: to think about it. But if you're a guesser though,

841
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, in this league, ball cares get by you. Yeah,

842
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: but you know, if you're guess you gotta be able

843
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: to have the ability to get Roquan Smith kuld guess

844
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: and get back in on the play. Yeah, many people

845
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: can do that. You know, Roquan Smith must be a

846
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: really good guesser because he doesn't choose the wrong gap

847
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: very often and he's in POSI just talking about athletic abilities. Ship,

848
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: but you're right about Jefferson, Dave. You got any more

849
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: questions over there? Yeah? I said, I got one more

850
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: that I really like from Ken, because hey, you talk

851
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: about um, maybe not swagger, but just a really good interview.

852
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: This is kind of the forgotten guy. We never talk

853
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: about this guy. Yeah, Courtland Sutton. Ken wants to know

854
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: about Courtland Sutton at fifty just and just in general,

855
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: I would take him a fifty why aren't Why aren't

856
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: we talking about this guy because of my phobia? And

857
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: I apologize, I apologize. No, no, no, he's a better

858
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: player than I'm I'm and I do not ever want

859
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: to take anybody. I don't want to take anybody down

860
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: that path. No, he's a better player. He is a

861
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: better player than I'm giving him credit for. He is

862
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: a much better player than I'm giving him credit for.

863
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: And I'm just the route running though. That's that's the thing.

864
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: That's the thing is a big question with him is

865
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: that when you watch one tape the offense that he

866
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: ran at SMU and the offense will be asked to

867
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: run the NFL. There's a mild gap a huge yeah,

868
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: And so he has a lot to learn. He has to,

869
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: but I think he has He's one of the few

870
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: receivers in this in this draft where you see number

871
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: one traits, you see the possibility that he could grow

872
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: into a future number one receiver in this draft. Uh,

873
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: you just don't see it right now. Calvin Ridley I

874
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: think could be a high end two DJ Moore. I

875
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: love he's a second wide receiver. I love him. I

876
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: think he could be a dynamic number two wide receiver

877
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: Cortland Sutton can be a number one. I see a

878
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: guy that can be an Alshan Jeffrey. He just has

879
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: a way to get there. But he did really well

880
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: the podium today. I thought he was he was, like

881
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 1: I said, I didn't. I wouldn't use the word swagger,

882
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: but he was very gregarious, outgoing, gave good answers, just

883
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: seemed like a really friendly dude. Yeah, did you did

884
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: the numbers on him? Six O three three two eighteen

885
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: thirty two and three eighths arms, ninety three quarters hands

886
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: eighteen times with the weights. It's good for his length, Dan,

887
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: you love this game? What what would you guess he's

888
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: gonna run? That's the big question. Is it a four

889
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: to five eight four five two? That's what I want

890
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: to know. Is he closer to the four five eight

891
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: or closer to the four or five two? That's a

892
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: four five two guy? That big right, He's a power

893
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: forward out there and nice. Remember this is a guy

894
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: who's recruited SMU as a safety, so you know he's

895
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: young and wide receiver years where he's still adapting, still

896
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: getting better in teams scounced, they need to figure out

897
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: him as a wide receiver. Where is he on that timeline?

898
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: Is he closer to the infancy or is he closer

899
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: to you know, where you know his ceiling as a

900
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver? How much better can he get? We know

901
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: he's raw. That doesn't mean that a player's automatically automatically

902
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: gonna get better at that craft. Well, I mean Laquon

903
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: tread was a perfect example of that. I bring him up.

904
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: We'll see for Courtland Sutton big day tomorrow on the field,

905
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: what he does could be the difference between going early

906
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: in the second round or maybe sneaking into the first.

907
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, I'd have lost money today

908
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: if you if you said, Brian put money on what

909
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver would have twenty two reps on the bench.

910
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: Top senior wide receiver in this draft, not Anthony Miller.

911
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been on Anthony Miller. No, And which

912
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: a note on him. He were talking about the right

913
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: foot injury. He said today that yeah, you's not gonna

914
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: do any running and they're not gonna do anything here.

915
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: But he was recently cleared, uh to be a full go.

916
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: He's been just started sprinting. He's just not you know,

917
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: he hasn't been preparing for the combine the last month

918
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: like most of these guys. So he's gonna wait to

919
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: the Memphis Pro Day. But great to hear he's been

920
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: fully cleared. The foot's good to go. He is the

921
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: top senior wide receiver in this class. I've been adamant

922
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: about that too, and I'm gonna stick to it. Hopefully

923
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't let me down. He didn't today with twenty

924
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: two on the beat. As long as we're doing those,

925
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: those are the two really like when you get into

926
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: the conversation about the upper echelon of wide receivers, we

927
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: probably haven't been paying enough attention to Courtland Sutton and

928
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller, So you know, yeah I have. I'm glad.

929
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm glad Dave's come around a little bit on Dante

930
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: Pettis though. Yeah. I like his hair. You see his

931
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: hair today. Yeah, he's got some purpose. Oh yeah, jeez,

932
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: I could use some of that the husky purple yeah,

933
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: oh wow. So but no, Anthony Millencourt on setting there

934
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: my number four, number five receivers in my ranking. So

935
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: both are number their second round grades. We'll see if

936
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: something anything changed. The more draft nugget who was Tray

937
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Quinn's only visit lined up visiting the only surprising thing

938
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: I've ever heard the Patriots. It's only his only official interview,

939
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: Trey Quinn smuy catch the fact that we couldn't get

940
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: that guy in the ball. I mean, my god, he's

941
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: uh to me, he's a Jervis Landry clone. So I

942
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: think he's a good player. How about Saint Brown? Did

943
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: he help himself with a little bit with twenty reps too?

944
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: Did you kind of expect that from how I was

945
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: eager to see because you know his dad being former

946
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 1: mister Olympia Olympia, Yeah, bodybuilder. Uh you know, they started

947
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: him off with the weights at a young age, but

948
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't really have that build of a of a

949
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: bodybuilder or anything. So eager to see what he did,

950
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: and he didn't disappoint. Yeah, he's actually he says six

951
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: zero four six, but two hundred and ten pounds or

952
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: two were team, which is it's about ten pounds more

953
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: than we expected because he's leaner. He thought maybe two

954
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: or five, but two fifteen and I think that number

955
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: will only go north And let's just run let's run

956
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: this down real quick. In detail, Calvin Ridley meeting with

957
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Yeah. DJ Moore meeting with the Cowboys. Christian

958
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: Kirk had an informal chat with the Cowboys. DJ Chark

959
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: had a chat with Sanjay lal Um, who am I forgetting?

960
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton and Trey Quinn are both local Dallas guys,

961
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: so you would imagine that they'll actually Dallas day guys.

962
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: They will very likely have their chance with the Cowboys

963
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: staff at some point. All right, David, let me, I

964
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: don't know about Pettish Equinemia. Saint Brown had a meeting

965
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys as well. Let me let me let

966
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: me focus a little bit on your side now, David.

967
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: The Dallas cowboy hat that you wear, do you're reading

968
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: into something maybe with what's going on with Dez Bryant

969
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: now that they're having meetings with these guys, or are

970
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: they not satisfied with the current receivers. Yeah, it's it's

971
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: like I said on Twitter earlier today, you can't read

972
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: too much into it because first you get sixty formal interviews, right,

973
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: and you can talk to as many people informally as

974
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: you want. So scouting departments are supposed to do their

975
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: due diligence. That's what you do. You talk to these guys,

976
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: you get to know them. You kind of try to

977
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: draw a tighter circle around who you want to invite

978
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: on your thirty visits. So I can't sit here and say, like, well,

979
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: this definitely means they're gonna do something with their receivers.

980
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: But clearly it's something they're interested in. Clearly they're trying

981
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: to do as much homework as you can. And I

982
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: can't help but think back to two years ago. They

983
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: interviewed every single quarterback at the Combine. They talk to

984
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: all of them, and so clearly that meant something. Right,

985
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: they're hunting one. And I think you're absolutely nuts if

986
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: you don't think that they're taking a hard look at

987
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: these guys for a good reason. I mean, if they

988
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: don't draft a wide receiver in this draft, I'll be

989
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: very surprised. All Right, we're gonna take our final break

990
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: and when we come back, we're gonna preview what we're

991
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,560
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992
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: and maybe talk a little bit tight end. So stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: here at the twenty eighteen NFL combine. We got a

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1037
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1039
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1040
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,719
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1041
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: this draft, Hayden Hurst. Hayton Hurst, my number two tight

1042
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: end behind the way Dallas Goddard who unfortunately Dallas Goddard

1043
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,120
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1044
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Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst, I have a question for you. Yeah, you

1045
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: know you're a long time scout. You've been doing this

1046
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: a long time. I have been. Hayden Hurst is interesting

1047
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: case because you know we we You said older guy, right,

1048
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: He's an older guy because minor league baseball. Correct. He

1049
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,000
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1050
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1051
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Speaker 1: He was forced to, right, because he developed the yips. Okay,

1052
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: this is a player who couldn't throw anymore. He has

1053
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: not thrown a baseball since because he can't do it.

1054
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Speaker 1: Steve Steve, Steve Sachs disease. I believe in their baseball

1055
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Speaker 1: we see it. You know, every few years there seems

1056
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1057
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: how do you incorporate that into your evaluation of him

1058
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: as a football player? He is a guy that met

1059
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: with a sports therapist over to a mental thing exactly now,

1060
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: he dealt He worked with sports therapist, he worked with

1061
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure it out, and they couldn't

1062
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: figure it out. What support am I drafting before football? Football?

1063
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying, you know, I'm just making sure.

1064
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm how does that work into your evaluation? Do you

1065
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: ignore it? Or do you know? I I think that

1066
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: I don't think it. I don't think it's a physical handicap. No, No,

1067
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: it's more mental. It's mental. And I and I but

1068
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: what I do I think because I didn't know that

1069
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: until you just said that thirty seconds ago. But again,

1070
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: I go back to that tape, and that's the handicap

1071
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: that we have that we do the best we can

1072
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: to figure out these mental questions and oh this guy

1073
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: you know this, that and the other. But I I

1074
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: don't let that bother me because I'm thinking and the

1075
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: tape is just you know, the way the athletic ability

1076
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: of the way he catches the football or the blocking

1077
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: that he does, you know, he makes plays down the field.

1078
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: I guess maybe you're thinking, is there something else that's

1079
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: going to trigger another thing where he starts dropping the ball?

1080
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: Well and the mentally does he have a is that

1081
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: going to affect or negative plays going to affect the

1082
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: way he mentally sees things or does things right that

1083
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: if some doctor, some guy with dr Period or lady

1084
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: can tell me that with certainty that hey, you're gonna

1085
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: potentially have some other problems with him mentally that would

1086
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: affect me, that absolutely affect me, I'm gonna have to

1087
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: use a pretty high pick if if all things being equal,

1088
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to use a pretty high pick to

1089
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: get this guy that And I don't want to go

1090
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: down that road and not be prepared that hypothetical. Just

1091
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you can watch the tape and

1092
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: come to a lot of different conclusions mes aerienced or

1093
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: amateur as you want. But it's so important that these

1094
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: teams have access to these guys, you know, to get

1095
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: to know them, to meet them, to see what their

1096
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: makeup is, do medical checks, all that, Like, there's so

1097
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: much more that goes into it than pulling up you know,

1098
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: tape or highlights or whatever that you know, Yeah, you

1099
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: could drastically, you know, drastically change your opinion of a

1100
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: guy for reasons that have nothing to do with how

1101
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: well he plays. I have one drop in three years

1102
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: of South Carolina. See that's so. But I'm sure he

1103
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: probably didn't have it. He was a pitcher when he

1104
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 1: got drafted by the Pirates, and I'm sure he didn't

1105
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: have any problems throwing the baseball. No, And that's and

1106
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I would worry. You told me

1107
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: there is a concern that he had to give up

1108
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: something he was very good at because all of a

1109
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: sudden mentally he couldn't handle it. But I again, I'm looking.

1110
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling, Daan, that I hear that

1111
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: that you know, as a as a potential red flag.

1112
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling there's gonna be some other

1113
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: bombshells at this thing. Oh yeah, the medical they're always

1114
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm just so worried about major players. Yeah, you know,

1115
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: major when these medicals hid and these doctors, they do

1116
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: a tremendous job doctors and trainers. There's some bombshell that's

1117
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: gonna drop in here. It's so depressing, it's so it

1118
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: is gonna be. It's it's because usually it's a player

1119
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: that you cove it, that you like. And again, folks,

1120
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of just saying from my experience, I

1121
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: know Dane's experience, and Dave's knew the old combine scene,

1122
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: but we something is gonna happen here. It's just I'm

1123
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: just I'm preparing myself. It's probably not gonna happen here.

1124
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna come out in like two weeks, you know,

1125
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna be a Dane's gonna come into our

1126
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: office on March seventeenth and that's a Saturday, but nineteenth

1127
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: and be like, I think you know that Saint Patrick's day. Uh,

1128
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be like, oh, did you hear about

1129
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: freaking you know whoever? He's got a he's got a bum,

1130
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 1: meta tarsl and his foot and we're just like, damn it, Yeah,

1131
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: that's back condition. That's how that goes back condition, kneue condition,

1132
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: heart conditions, something, you know, some something crazy that that

1133
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: to a first round player that yeah, you all of

1134
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: a sudden that scare you though, I mean, you do

1135
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: all this work and and and that's what I guess

1136
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: that's might as we kind of wrap things up here,

1137
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: that that that scares me that because these doctors are

1138
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: now they're full blown on this medical stuff, you know,

1139
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: and and I'm just ready for that. Okay, do you

1140
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: just rick my dream on that guy? It doesn't it

1141
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,760
Speaker 1: doesn't scare me. Like you, that's your you take things personally,

1142
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: I do you like you take it as like I

1143
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: want those guys I was cheering from around to run

1144
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: faster or one night to day. Yeah, he was to

1145
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: startup run run run. We need to do we need

1146
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: to do a thing where like fans can bid on

1147
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: just it's not even like you don't get to go

1148
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: in the stadium. You just get to watch the drills

1149
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: with Brian on TV because it's it's amazing. You're just like,

1150
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: come on, come on, get come pick those feet up.

1151
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: Which cheer for it's like if they're gonna work out

1152
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: a cheer for him. But you but you take you know,

1153
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: when you find out one of these guys is hurt,

1154
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 1: it's like somebody you know, slapped your kid or something

1155
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: like that. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah, well,

1156
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: we've got a couple of minutes. Like I said, tomorrow,

1157
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: we've we've kind of talked about these wide receivers. We

1158
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: did a little stand up Dane and and I Rob

1159
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: Phillips did a little a little preview. Can't Garrison put

1160
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: that together? Sure that's up on the site that you

1161
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: can kind of check that out. But uh, one or

1162
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: two guys, maybe maybe maybe a down the line guy,

1163
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: maybe somebody were not all thinking about that. Hey, I'd

1164
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: like to see this guy do something. I know, I

1165
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: said Lamar Jackson. I'd like to see him throw the football.

1166
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: But is there somebody else you're kind of looking at

1167
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: names wise that maybe, Hey, I'd like to see this

1168
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: guy have a good day to I want to see

1169
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: Dj Moore run. I know he's not a down the

1170
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: line guy. He told me today he's gonna run under

1171
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: a four or five that that's his goal. And so

1172
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: if he's able to run in the four fours, he

1173
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: only cements his status as my number two receiver. Uh,

1174
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, down the line guys. See Kiki Kuti, I

1175
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: got it from Texas. Texas have a whole bunch of

1176
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: people in love it. Just cheered, Yeah, yet your guns

1177
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: up there. He's an undersized slot receiver who if he

1178
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: runs well here, all of a sudden more people will

1179
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: be talking about him. I want to see him do

1180
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: it because I think he has that ability. He's a

1181
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: good athlete, Dave. This is even more obvious than that.

1182
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: But it's just gonna be fun to see these quarterbacks

1183
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: throw yeah. Yeah, you know, I'm with you on that,

1184
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: and that's I'm I'm I know. I'll bet you any

1185
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: amount of money you want. The Cowboys aren't going to

1186
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in the first two rounds of this draft,

1187
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: but these quarterbacks are going to determine so much about

1188
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: that first round and it could be the difference between

1189
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: whether you get a guy you're really excited about at

1190
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: nineteen or not. And plus they're just they're all they're

1191
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: all fascinating in their own way. Like, this is the

1192
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: most interesting quarterback class that we've covered in the six

1193
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: years I've endured this. I mean, like Goff and Wentz

1194
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 1: and Lynch were pretty good, and that was fun because

1195
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: the Cowboys might have been in the market for one

1196
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: of them. Um, But but this is gonna be something

1197
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: special because this is at least four, if not five

1198
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: first round quarterbacks that I believe are all gonna throw,

1199
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: or at least most of them are. And Lamar Jackson's

1200
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: only throwing. He's not doing the forty years good for

1201
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: him anything. I mean, we don't need to see him

1202
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: work out. It just would have been fun to see

1203
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: him blaze a four three or whatever it was gonna be.

1204
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: So with these wide receivers real quick. You know, we

1205
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: talked about the log jam and breaking them up, you know,

1206
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: will tomorrow help us with the pecking order and help

1207
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: us divide somebody's got, you know, the difference between a

1208
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: Dion Kane and a Semi Cobbs, or a difference between

1209
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: a Marcel Eateman and a Trap Smith. Hopefully the combine

1210
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: tomorrow and what they do on the fuel will help

1211
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: us separate those real real quick. Okay, I know we're

1212
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: running out of time, but we sat there just at

1213
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: the top of the show and talked about you know,

1214
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: none of the line workouts really drastically changed our opinion.

1215
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: I feel like that's not going to be true tomorrow,

1216
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: because like with this log jam, I mean, what if

1217
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: what if what if Courtland Sutton runs out there and

1218
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: runs a four four nine, you know, like faster than

1219
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: anybody really thought. Or you know somebody runs days going

1220
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: first round? There you go? Or what if you know,

1221
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: what if our guy DJ Moore runs up four five?

1222
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm drive you guys crazy. I had the same feeling

1223
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: about these tight ends. Sure, I had the same feeling

1224
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: about Mark Andrews, you know, and I know that, uh,

1225
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: we're not gonna see our our South Dakota State guy

1226
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: don't run. But what about some of the what about

1227
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: the sicky? Yeah? What about what about those guys? I

1228
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: want to see how how are you going to break

1229
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: these guys down? Hey, well, Ian Thomas, I mean some

1230
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: guys have expected to perform well, Ian Thomas, will Disley

1231
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: didn't do as well on the bench. Try to talk

1232
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: about how your guy Disley threw up fifteen on the

1233
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: fifty and that's not good for him. But I'll tell

1234
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: you what. You watch the tapey blocks. But let's let's see.

1235
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: Let's see the separation though. Let's see, let's see if

1236
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: there is some separation up. Who is going to step

1237
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: up from this tight end class? And maybe the Dallas

1238
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't take one. But I'm interested to see what

1239
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: really what Mark Andrews runs. I really, really am. I've

1240
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: kind of thought, you know, at two at six five,

1241
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: two fifty six, I kind of had him as a

1242
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: four seven nine guy. Maybe he is a little bit

1243
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: better than that. I'd like to see that, Yeah, I would.

1244
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: I think it's got I mean, everybody's so tightly packed

1245
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: together that good days and bad days are gonna mean

1246
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: a lot. I feel like when nobody can really come

1247
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: to a consensus about what this all looks, just like

1248
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: in the real world and the interview process and the

1249
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: good days and bad days. As always, boys, that's the

1250
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: fastest hour we do always. I'll tell you what. We

1251
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: can keep going and going, but we will. We'll do

1252
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: it tomorrow. Will we got a draft coming up, We'll

1253
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: talk about eighteen hours straight. Let's do it and we'll

1254
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun doing that. Okay, Well, that

1255
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: does it. For the draft show tomorrow, same time, we'll

1256
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: be on four thirty Central time. Maybe we'll see how

1257
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: things all shake out. But if this will be our

1258
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: last draft show tomorrow, we'll be again, appreciate everybody on periscope.

1259
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: Appreciate everybody that kind of catches us. How were they

1260
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: doing on the various platforms. Again, I thank Dame Bugler,

1261
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: David Hellman, King Garrison for always doing the great things

1262
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: they do. We will see you tomorrow. Make sure you're

1263
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,360
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